I learned a long time ago to never join a band with 2 brothers. Sad, EVH has alrady lost a bunch of teeth and kinda sounds like a grandpa handing out unnecessary advice.
Yes, I agree 100% with these comments. All the guys goofed around onstage as well as offstage. It's mean to go back and ridicule and mock the the behavior of other band members as though the Van Halens are so much better, more "serious" musicians. I was never a fan of David Lee Roth's flamboyant style, but that's the way he is, and a lot of people liked him. I never knew the Van Halen brothers would, after the fact, just deride former members like that. Sure, the two are very gifted musicians, but they both act like divas.
@@tonyasmomthat’s what the idolisation from thousands of people does to you, no top tier entertainer escapes being affected because even if you try and be humble you get people following you around constantly telling you how good you are and if they don’t become “Divas” as you put it, they usually become drug addicts or do other weird things
Sammy wasn't just any lead singer, he was very well respected by his peers and music biz execs. He was smart, talented, and one of the nicest guys in the business. For the VH brothers to sit there and say the things about Sammy that they did, well it said more about them than it did about Hagar. I gave them a pass when they moved on from Roth, but when they fired Hagar i saw what the VH brothers were all about, and anyone else in the music biz saw it too.
When Roth left/was fired in 1985, I think most of us sympathized with Eddie because, let's face it, as great a frontman Roth was, he definitely seemed like someone you'd want to kill after being around him for a decade. So when Eddie and Alex trashed Roth, it seemed about right. But when Sammy left and they went after him, I think people began thinking twice about the brothers.
@@SilentKnight43 I agree great summation. Man I loved Eddie growing up. I loved the Sammy years more than the Dave years because Dave was always annoying. Sadly just because Eddie was a great guitarist doesn’t mean he was a great person. I was telling somebody the other day, the great thing about Van Halen was they were just fun. They never got into all the depressing angst ridden music.
Always I'll love EVH, regard his talent, and feel sorry we lost him way too early. But once he felt offended by somebody, his sense of equity usually went out the window. The way VH pissed on Michael Anthony was telling. Mike isn't a cocky frontman, with an attitude issue. He's an easy going, support guy who in no way deserved what was done.
Well said! Mike's backing vocals are legendary and an integral part of the VH legacy; not to mention his amazing bass chops. He deserved better. I'm glad Mike and Sammy are close.
If it really was that bad he should have quit . It's not like he wasn't paid . He just wasn't getting royalties for Ed's compositions . Ed took over songwriting from the 1984 onward .
@@goodquestion1105 They pissed on mike firstly by screwing him out of royalties on the 84 tour. Ed and Alex treated the guy like shit for decades and then booting him so wolf could join when he was legit only 15 years old was pure horseshit.
It’s sad that Van Halen will always be that band that never had their “happily ever after” with regards to all its members, it really hurts that Eddie never made amends with Michael Anthony either.
From Valerie's book... "At one point Ed was at odds with Sammy, I don't know what it was about, but Ed always had to have a bad guy in his life, someone he could blame all his problems on" So there's the proof of the reality of Ed. First Dave was his 'bad guy' then later it was Sammy as his bad guy. Ed was often the real problem, not Dave or Sammy. Sammy is very healthy, still living the dream, but can anyone imagine an elderly Edward Van Halen? No, his rock star excesses with chain smoking, drink & drugs for decades caught up to him, as it always does.
Well Sammy is notoriously egotistical. Hated admitting that the band was bigger than he was in 84. Has always undercut their success before them. Which honestly his catalog only gets like 4 VH radio plays where the roth catalog has around 14. So yeah. What a mess that became.
@@theostgard6212 I agree. I gotta say, I'm definitley a little bit more on the side of Eddie now. Both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar had big egos, and both were prima donnas in different ways. Nobody was an angel during the 1996 soap opera, except maybe Michael Anthony because he actively chose to abstain from taking sides.
Once their manager Ed Leffler died and Ray Daniels took over the band management, the problems became worse between Eddie and Sammy. Ray Daniels once wanted to fire Geddy Lee from RUSH. Need I say more !!!
That's BS . Ed talked about it in a guitar magazine interview . Ray watched Sam try and boss Ed around and asked him about it . There's a compilation video on UA-cam that shows when Sam really fell in love with himself . One clip shows him saying " This is MY band . " And another where he says " Lead singer of the band leader of the band what's the difference ?" Captain Candyass didn't put that in his book RED .
Over the years., Hagar was a awesome front man. I recently listened to a compilation of both singers and they are both great… I got a lot of respect for Sammy…
Drugs and alcohol ruined Eddie. You can tell he was an addict by his chaotic behavior. Addicts tend to play the victim card as well to help hide their real problems caused by addiction.
Eddie Van Halen was the biggest diva in the band, only kicked out his singer, his wife, his other singer, his original singer again, his bass player... And his brother always stayed true to his meal ticket & firmly latched to his coattails so he could always be right close to kiss his ass properly, in the end it was the diva, his brother, and his kid. Great legacy 🤦🏻♂️ did bring out some good music tho, unfortunately that's all there was tho.
I was glad to see him get his act together the last few years of his life. But he doesn't look like a pleasant person to have been around up until that point, and the record you present here speaks volumes.
But played the baddest ass guitar in 1978 anyone ever heard...was a tone machine....I have a 68 plexiglass and two other Marshalls a 71 and a 72 because of that guys brownsound...lol he said she said I could give a runny rats ass about, but the first four albums with that nasty 68 plexiglass on them, yes please...
It was easy to believe the "blame it on Dave" stuff for a time because Dave obviously has way too much ego and his personality is a bit much. So for a time we all believed it. Then it happened to Sammy. Then it was easier to see the truth.
Eddie Van Halen, the amazing guitarist, if not the most amazing guitarist, also the chain smoker, blamed his throat cancer on putting a pick in his mouth.
Sammy found out what Dave found out. RIP Eddie he was a great guitarist but all the blaming it on Dave sounded plausible only until the same thing happened to Sammy.
A quote from Eddie Van Halen when they toured for the 3rd incarnation (can’t remember his name but their first video was shot in an ice cave) Eddie told a Guitar magazine journalist that it was good to actually make music “that wasn’t about girls body parts” and I agree definitely with that statement. He was such an innovative rhythm guitarist and some of his best works were the intro’s to the songs until the vocals started and it’s “drop dead legs” intro to mean streets was awesome and at least that wasn’t smutty but so much of it was, Poundcake is a very interesting song rhythmically until you realise surprise surprise also about a girl.
But the good thing about Roth´s lyrics is that they weren´t as explicit as today´s "girls body parts" songs which are just plain disgusting. Like Roth had a way of doing it with catchy lines that were all analogies that would fly over the innocent minds or kids. And man, his voice timbre plus Michale´s backing vocals was great for the sound of the band. Hagar´s Van Halen was cool but I don´t know, it was kinda on the cheesy side to me.
As great of a lead guitar soloist that Eddie was, he was just as good as a rhythm guitarist. The guy was a GREAT rhythm guitarist. "Dance the Night Away" was incredible.
@@akfreed6949 Gotcha. By the way, how long have you been working for the distribution company that tracks his album sales? I think that would be a fascinating job!
@@JohnnyBeane it feels kinda weird watching this video now because I remember where I was when I watched pretty much every clip from this video. Man I miss the 90’s…
If any singer joins VanHalen you better make sure you keep up with VH boys ALL 3 of them , DO YOU KNOW WHO YOUR IN THE RING WITH KINDA THING,,,Sammy in VH, good singer 5150 AWESOME album.
Interestingly, from the moment they walked on stage together, Eddie was visibly uncomfortable. I'm not sure how they expected that moment to play out. The crowd being thrilled to see them together was a no-brainer. I have a feeling he told Dave they'd try a song or two and see how it goes, and Dave saw this as an opportunity to play up the publicity and force a full reunion. Totally awkward moment, but it made for great drama. :-)
@@sweetwilliam5150remember a friend saying back in 96’ he’s stuck in the 80’s…..Roth did have a good reason to try to get back and go on tour …his solo gig was failing miserably each record sold less than its predecessor…plus kiss had the reunion tour with ace and Peter in 1996 , and it sold out pretty much every show….first shoe in Detroit (my hometown) sold out in like 10 minutes…..Roth knew this and seen dollar signs when they started working on the songs in June 96.
But in the end, it was Roth that got used by VH. Their manager Ray Daniels was already in negotiations with the agent for lead singer Gary Cherone to be VH's new singer. VH had zero interest in a reunion with Roth, but found him useful to promote their "Greatest Hits Volume 1" album.
The way they treated Sammy was disrespectful and what they did to David at the MTV awards is where they lost a lot of fandom after that people knew Eddie was a first class D-Bag. After what they did to Michael Anthony was the nail in the coffin for the band after that I could care less actually when the fired Sammy is when I stopped listening to them.
Eddie complaining about Hagar in this video is hilarious. Hagar was in the band for NINE YEARS. NINE YEARS! - without any controversy until the very last year. And suddenly the previous eight issue-free years was now moot? Ridiculous...
Fact: Warner Bros DEMANDED a greatest hits album . Captain Candyass was given the choice do the greatest hits album or walk . Captain Candyass walked . Buh bye
It's arguable. Dave sure knew about high kicks, scissors and the kind, but nobody has saw him in a proper fist fight.. and one thing i've learned about my martial arts years it's that maybe you have the moves, but being in a proper fight it's a different thing. Eddie and Alex would fist fight for years while drunk, and even if the cap thing was a bit.. I'd put a bit of my gambles to Eddie, not even mentioning the guy had a very heavy hand and a strong grip.
Roth kickboxed- trained by Benny Urquidez & allegedly had some real bouts. He wrote about it in his book- which is a strange read; it’s all over the place
Love that this happened to musical lunkhead Hagar. He was totally classless when he joined the band. Talked shit about Roth non-stop (and still does). Then the same thing that happened to Roth courtesy of the VH brothers happened to him. Karma is a wonderful thing. Second - what a tool Kurt Loder is.
Van Halen’s lied…Sammy is no slouch. Look at his life’s work in music, business, personal, and on and on. Sammy’s actions speak otherwise. It was cool for Eddie to go into the studio with Michael Jackson in secret to record the lead guitar to beat it or something. He did not get any money or writing credit at all. That song / album kept VH out of the number one spot that year. Dave says hey, I guess it’s cool If we do a side project so he goes in and record’s California Girls project and he gets roasted by the VH’s. I love VH but man looking back at all of these interviews really makes me wonder and opening my eyes about the VH’s.
He lived the life of 100 men. He couldn’t care less. Some people do whatever they want. Some people do what others want. Eddie did his own thing by his own rules. It wasn’t always pretty. But when it was on…it was on.
I grew up with sammy and van halen. Loved both. I lost 2 of my favorites whrn they joined each other. I seen 5150 and never seen em live again. Never felt a loss. Then when mike left or got kicked or whatever happened i knew shit was fckd up.
I grew up loving Van Halen and I idolized every single one of them, but I honestly cant imagine what it would be like to have to deal with David Lee Roth on a daily basis. As a vocalist and as a front man, yes. Everything else, no. It broke my heart when all these guys were hating on each other and trying to make us fans "choose a side"...it was the worst and remember it like it was yesterday.
@@danfoss1535 Yes, but the music was never as good without Dave. The Sam albums were ok...but each sold less than the previous for a reason. They were never as magical or remarkable. There were great songs, like CABO WABO, I really like BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, BLACK AND BLUE, the Twister song HUMANS BEING...but it wasn't as great. And the Cherone era truly sucked. I'm always fascinated by anything Eddie plays on...but with Dave, they still made the most lasting music of their career. I loved (and so did a lot of other fans) A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH. It was their best album since 1984.
They had the 💎 back... All they had to do was get out of the way and let him shine... Dude imagine how rad a whole new album that sounded like Can't get this stuff no more & Me wise magic......✌️
Yeah, they really screwed up dangling Dave's coming back to the fans in '96 and then bringing in the singer of Extreme to make the worst album of their career. If Dave had come back, the reunion would have been bigger than the KISS reunion of the same year...and that was a HUGE comeback (though their reunion album, PSYCHO CIRCUS, was not great...partly because they, too, lied to the fans: Ace & Peter barely played on the entire LP). The two new Van Halen (with Dave) songs on BEST OF were really good (ME WISE MAGIC was actually an amazing song). The music world went crazy when it was looking clear that Dave was returning. And then they pissed off virtually the entire fanbase. Hell, they even pissed off the fans who preferred Hagar. In the same year, they kicked out Sammy and then seemed to bring back Dave and then pissed on that too. I know one VH fan who actually burned all of his Van Halen albums in October of 1996. If the reunion had worked out, just imagine... I know some fans were mad when the band kicked out Michael Anthony when finally reuniting with Dave in 2006-7...but I didn't care. I remember Anthony being pretty vocal that he didn't want Dave back in 1996. I remember thinking, "Screw you, Anthony. You pushed the band to not bring Dave back in '96. Now he's back, and far more fans care if Dave is around instead of you." I'm just glad they made one more album with Dave in 2012 with A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH. That was easily their best album since 1984. Eddie is gone, and it sucks. But I got to see VH with Dave three times during the reunion years (I was too young to see the original line-up 1978-1984) and all three shows were amazing. And though the band is over, I treasure the fact that there is one more great VH album with Dave (ADKOT) on my shelf next to the original six-pack. Alex & Dave are apparently still friends (Dave said a few years ago that he and Alex talk on the phone almost every day)...so maybe someday, they'll go through the vaults at 5150 and put together another album with all the leftover music Eddie had with new Dave vocals. That would be pretty awesome.
@@eaaivazian Sadly I don’t think we’ll see anything from the vault for a long long time. Wolfie will probably be the one to go through it and he’s not focused at all on Eddie’s shit atm since he’s currently trying to keep at it with his own band
I gotta be honest I think after F.U.C.K. we weren't getting any more pearls. Too much had happened and too many years at that point. I actually really love Me Wise Magic and even Tattoo more recently but the fact is the band was at full tilt with Sammy. They were making their best music and going back to Dave would only be fun for Greatest Hits concerts
they came back and where up on stage and the moment was awkward for everyone in Van Halen and the camera was rolling. They should have had a five-minute chat.
I love Van Halen both with Diamond Dave and Sammy Hagar. What VH did to Michael Anthony was heartless and I`m sure it damaged their reputation too. I try and pay no mind to the BS that occurs behind the scenes - just play!
David Lee Roth (Bloomington, Indiana, 10 de octubre de 1954) es un cantante estadounidense de hard rock. Es reconocido especialmente por haber sido el vocalista original de la renombrada banda estadounidense Van Halen, primero durante el período 1974-1985 y, varios años más tarde, desde 2007 hasta la disolución del grupo en 2020 tras el fallecimiento de su guitarrista, Eddie Van Halen. Entre tanto, se lanzó a una carrera en solitario que si bien cosechó bastantes éxitos en la década de los 80, no le valió la misma fama y atención que su tiempo en Van Halen. También es conocido por los pseudónimos "Diamond Dave" y "El Roth".
Listen, Nobody came out clean on this fiasco. and terrible ideas and decisions were made by everyone.: 1) Ed and Al. Q: Why would you reach back to the past and re-ignite a relationship with a prior band member that ended so terribly with mud slinging that went on for years, just to use him for 2 new songs on greatest hits album? The answer is you should never go down this road whether the brothers did it to spite Hagar or for whatever reason, this move was destined to blow up in everyone's faces like it eventually did. 2.) David. Q: You had moved on with your life and carried your own post Van Halen years and proved to yourself and everyone else that their is a life for Dave after the initial success and stardom of the early days with the VH Brothers, why would you stop that legacy and put it in reverse just to step back into something you left in the first place because you grew apart with band members who after you left never had a kind word to say about you or ever cared to speak to you again. A: Because Diamond Dave never gives up an opportunity to relevant.
Answer to #1 : Warner Bros said Dave or Sam . Ed was going to fight them til Gary Cherone showed up at his house in some flashy tacky Elvis style jumpsuit . That's when he gave up on Gary . And they were working on another album . It was in some entertainment trade paper
@@akfreed6949 umm, i read somewhere, i can't really remember whose book, i don't recall if it was Sammy or Valerie's or the kind, but i remember reading that the Cherone thing blew out when they went on tour, because of his stage persona. Freaked the hell out of Eddie, asked to calm tf down and supposedly Gary said to him "this is how i am in stage", and that's why he was kindly invited by both WB and the brothers to part ways, in true VH fashion.
it was all ray daniels . if their manager ed leffeler hadnt passed away hagar would have never ever left/kicked out, whatever u wanna call it. hagar wanted to get aerosmiths manager cuz he though if that manager could get the entire band of aerosmith sober, he could get EVH sober. the following up to balance would have been the VH takeover of the music industry and beyond. such a shame.... burn in hell ray daniels
Eddie and Alex Van Halen were their own worst enemies
Agree
I learned a long time ago to never join a band with 2 brothers. Sad, EVH has alrady lost a bunch of teeth and kinda sounds like a grandpa handing out unnecessary advice.
They chased more members out of their band than Ritchie Blackmore
You don't know the half of it.
But yeah, you nailed it.
Absolutely.
As soon as they said Sammys work ethic sucked you know its BS
Unfortunately, VH only made 2 more albums after Hagar in the next 25 years, and not really worth the wait....
Exactly!
History has proven otherwise.
Montrose and even Joe Satriani said the same thing about Hagar though.
Yes, I agree 100% with these comments. All the guys goofed around onstage as well as offstage. It's mean to go back and ridicule and mock the the behavior of other band members as though the Van Halens are so much better, more "serious" musicians. I was never a fan of David Lee Roth's flamboyant style, but that's the way he is, and a lot of people liked him. I never knew the Van Halen brothers would, after the fact, just deride former members like that. Sure, the two are very gifted musicians, but they both act like divas.
@@tonyasmomthat’s what the idolisation from thousands of people does to you, no top tier entertainer escapes being affected because even if you try and be humble you get people following you around constantly telling you how good you are and if they don’t become “Divas” as you put it, they usually become drug addicts or do other weird things
It’s hard to dislike Sammy Hagar.
they should have lowered the key on songs he struggled with. he was more than worth doing that for.
No it isn't.
not at all, he’s a liar and writes some of the worst lyrics of ever:
“only time will tell if we stand the test of time” 🤮
Right, how can those lyrics ever compete with immortal poetry like "hey you, who said that, how you been"?
@@romangarcia608 "Boboziddybop, zidditybop!".....
Funny how as the years unfolded and you see how the brothers treated everyone, you realize Sammy's side is the truthful one.
Sammy wasn't just any lead singer, he was very well respected by his peers and music biz execs. He was smart, talented, and one of the nicest guys in the business. For the VH brothers to sit there and say the things about Sammy that they did, well it said more about them than it did about Hagar. I gave them a pass when they moved on from Roth, but when they fired Hagar i saw what the VH brothers were all about, and anyone else in the music biz saw it too.
When Roth left/was fired in 1985, I think most of us sympathized with Eddie because, let's face it, as great a frontman Roth was, he definitely seemed like someone you'd want to kill after being around him for a decade. So when Eddie and Alex trashed Roth, it seemed about right. But when Sammy left and they went after him, I think people began thinking twice about the brothers.
Best summation I'd say.
Roth left. No one said he was fired in 85.
@@SilentKnight43 I agree great summation. Man I loved Eddie growing up. I loved the Sammy years more than the Dave years because Dave was always annoying. Sadly just because Eddie was a great guitarist doesn’t mean he was a great person.
I was telling somebody the other day, the great thing about Van Halen was they were just fun. They never got into all the depressing angst ridden music.
I mean, Sam of all people backed Roth’s story after Sam was bounced. “They did to me what they did to Roth”.
Always I'll love EVH, regard his talent, and feel sorry we lost him way too early. But once he felt offended by somebody, his sense of equity usually went out the window. The way VH pissed on Michael Anthony was telling. Mike isn't a cocky frontman, with an attitude issue. He's an easy going, support guy who in no way deserved what was done.
Well said! Mike's backing vocals are legendary and an integral part of the VH legacy; not to mention his amazing bass chops. He deserved better. I'm glad Mike and Sammy are close.
If it really was that bad he should have quit . It's not like he wasn't paid . He just wasn't getting royalties for Ed's compositions . Ed took over songwriting from the 1984 onward .
How exactly did they piss on him? He left to join Hagar.
@@goodquestion1105 not only that , he joined Hagar during Hagar's POS book RED promotion tour later . I know that really pissed off Ed .
@@goodquestion1105 They pissed on mike firstly by screwing him out of royalties on the 84 tour. Ed and Alex treated the guy like shit for decades and then booting him so wolf could join when he was legit only 15 years old was pure horseshit.
The Two brothers were like Two Babies in Adult body’s!
Sammy and Mike always have a smile on their face and are still playing 1/2 Van Hagar shows with The Circle. Sometimes nice guys finish first.
You better be wearing a cup..... That is the least tough thing you could ever say to another guy.
😂
Eddie was an artist. Not a fighter.
I like the relationship Sammy and Toby Keith had. Two different genres of music but great Frineds. Love Sammy.
It’s sad that Van Halen will always be that band that never had their “happily ever after” with regards to all its members, it really hurts that Eddie never made amends with Michael Anthony either.
That impersonation was hilarious 😂
From Valerie's book... "At one point Ed was at odds with Sammy, I don't know what it was about, but Ed always had to have a bad guy in his life, someone he could blame all his problems on" So there's the proof of the reality of Ed. First Dave was his 'bad guy' then later it was Sammy as his bad guy. Ed was often the real problem, not Dave or Sammy. Sammy is very healthy, still living the dream, but can anyone imagine an elderly Edward Van Halen? No, his rock star excesses with chain smoking, drink & drugs for decades caught up to him, as it always does.
Well Sammy is notoriously egotistical. Hated admitting that the band was bigger than he was in 84. Has always undercut their success before them. Which honestly his catalog only gets like 4 VH radio plays where the roth catalog has around 14. So yeah. What a mess that became.
@@theostgard6212 I agree. I gotta say, I'm definitley a little bit more on the side of Eddie now. Both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar had big egos, and both were prima donnas in different ways. Nobody was an angel during the 1996 soap opera, except maybe Michael Anthony because he actively chose to abstain from taking sides.
Guess the #1 albums don’t mean much.
@@foley15136 nope . They went to #1 BUT petered out quick too . With Roth , always consistent selling better than with Sam .
@@akfreed6949 uh huh
Eddie kicked out everybody.
Wife, singers, dog, cat.
That’s not fair. His drug dealer was always welcome. Lol
Once their manager Ed Leffler died and Ray Daniels took over the band management, the problems became worse between Eddie and Sammy. Ray Daniels once wanted to fire Geddy Lee from RUSH. Need I say more !!!
Could have replaced Geddy Lee with Bootsy Collins, Rushadelic would have been wild.
That's BS . Ed talked about it in a guitar magazine interview . Ray watched Sam try and boss Ed around and asked him about it . There's a compilation video on UA-cam that shows when Sam really fell in love with himself . One clip shows him saying " This is MY band . " And another where he says " Lead singer of the band leader of the band what's the difference ?" Captain Candyass didn't put that in his book RED .
Over the years., Hagar was a awesome front man. I recently listened to a compilation of both singers and they are both great… I got a lot of respect for Sammy…
I'll believe Sammy's version before the VH brothers....
"Tonight's about me, Man. Not your fucking hip." Well, in all fairness. Dave was right. That night was about him.
Drugs and alcohol ruined Eddie. You can tell he was an addict by his chaotic behavior. Addicts tend to play the victim card as well to help hide their real problems caused by addiction.
Yea he aged like 300 yrs from 93 to 96, meth kids
Watch the '98 MTV spot where they are at his studio, Eddie looks borderline awful. And it definitely wasn't alcohol.
“you ever speak to me like that again you better be wearing a cup”
😂😂😂😂
Alex in the background instigating 😂
Eddie Van Halen was the biggest diva in the band, only kicked out his singer, his wife, his other singer, his original singer again, his bass player... And his brother always stayed true to his meal ticket & firmly latched to his coattails so he could always be right close to kiss his ass properly, in the end it was the diva, his brother, and his kid. Great legacy 🤦🏻♂️ did bring out some good music tho, unfortunately that's all there was tho.
100% everyone says what a great guy he was, thats funny cause all ive ever seen of him is pure dickhead.
I was glad to see him get his act together the last few years of his life. But he doesn't look like a pleasant person to have been around up until that point, and the record you present here speaks volumes.
But played the baddest ass guitar in 1978 anyone ever heard...was a tone machine....I have a 68 plexiglass and two other Marshalls a 71 and a 72 because of that guys brownsound...lol he said she said I could give a runny rats ass about, but the first four albums with that nasty 68 plexiglass on them, yes please...
Your right that's his legacy. In a nutshell.
Ed was a total diva/divo, but guess what, he earned it. He wasn’t a fake genius, his genius was real.
This millionaire said this and that millionaire said that…cue violins
I can believe the stories about Roth but Sammy is a down to earth dude. Wasn’t right what they did to him or Michael.
It was easy to believe the "blame it on Dave" stuff for a time because Dave obviously has way too much ego and his personality is a bit much. So for a time we all believed it. Then it happened to Sammy. Then it was easier to see the truth.
Hagar is a pathological liar. The list of whopper lies is long, and growing.
Sammy didn’t need them anyway. All these singers keep coming and going, makes me think it’s not the singers.
The Van Halen’s have a problem with anyone not named Van Halen.
Well stated!!!
Good thing Van Halen 3 worked so well
Eddie's impersonation of Dave. 😂😂😂😂😂
“Snit,” “orchidaceous...”
I could never understand what Loder was saying as a kid, and now as a 37yo still can’t.
Sammy is a good guy.
Sammy sucks!!!!
Sammy Hagar always reminds me of "the dude" (Big Lebowski). In a positive way.
“You ever speak to me like that again, you better be wearin’ a cup!”
I used to love these music news tidbits.
what did he want to Dave to say when you told him that night two songs to videos that's it. my mood would change as well
Ms. Altshul, we miss her!
Sammy is a real dude!
Eddie Van Halen, the amazing guitarist, if not the most amazing guitarist, also the chain smoker, blamed his throat cancer on putting a pick in his mouth.
he was also doing a lot of crystal meth in the 90s. guy was a straight up tweaker.
I remember that. Lol. What a joke. It’s better we never meet our heroes.
Sammy found out what Dave found out. RIP Eddie he was a great guitarist but all the blaming it on Dave sounded plausible only until the same thing happened to Sammy.
Hagar saved VH. Period. To this day Hagar can sing everything , Roth is a trainwreck.
A quote from Eddie Van Halen when they toured for the 3rd incarnation (can’t remember his name but their first video was shot in an ice cave) Eddie told a Guitar magazine journalist that it was good to actually make music “that wasn’t about girls body parts” and I agree definitely with that statement. He was such an innovative rhythm guitarist and some of his best works were the intro’s to the songs until the vocals started and it’s “drop dead legs” intro to mean streets was awesome and at least that wasn’t smutty but so much of it was, Poundcake is a very interesting song rhythmically until you realise surprise surprise also about a girl.
But the good thing about Roth´s lyrics is that they weren´t as explicit as today´s "girls body parts" songs which are just plain disgusting. Like Roth had a way of doing it with catchy lines that were all analogies that would fly over the innocent minds or kids. And man, his voice timbre plus Michale´s backing vocals was great for the sound of the band. Hagar´s Van Halen was cool but I don´t know, it was kinda on the cheesy side to me.
Yeah, poor Eddie had to make due with Lamborghinis and mansions in part to those lyrics.
As great of a lead guitar soloist that Eddie was, he was just as good as a rhythm guitarist. The guy was a GREAT rhythm guitarist.
"Dance the Night Away" was incredible.
The 3rd incarnation was with Extremes Gary Cherone…(ice cave video- without you).
Sammy said he would have quit anyway then says he would have never quit.
Funny watching Eddie say that Sammy’s work ethic sucks. Van Halen didn’t put out many albums, Sammy is still putting out albums. 🤔
Yeah and no-one is buying them . He can never sell like he used to . Besides Ed was raising Wolfie .
@@akfreed6949 Gotcha. By the way, how long have you been working for the distribution company that tracks his album sales? I think that would be a fascinating job!
@@davidbrucemusicvideo it's called Google
@@akfreed6949 you work for Google? Right on. 😁
@@davidbrucemusicvideo alright , don't tell anyone BUT I'm a synthetic thinking system 🤖
Yeah, I’m sure Eddie was really going to kick DLR’s ass with those buggywhip arms and tar-encrusted lungs.
Eddie was so full of himself.
That was a crazy year!
hmmm
It was! I remember it well! I’ll never forget the 96 VMA’s when Roth came out with the band. It was quite the rollercoaster year for sure.
@@soundofwinter Yup!
@@JohnnyBeane it feels kinda weird watching this video now because I remember where I was when I watched pretty much every clip from this video. Man I miss the 90’s…
If any singer joins VanHalen you better make sure you keep up with VH boys ALL 3 of them , DO YOU KNOW WHO YOUR IN THE RING WITH KINDA THING,,,Sammy in VH, good singer 5150 AWESOME album.
Sammy will always surpass vh.my 1st concert was 3 lock box tour in the rose garden. My family loves you you are a great artist
“Better be wearing a cup” 😂😂😂
Sammy is a fucking class act.
Interestingly, from the moment they walked on stage together, Eddie was visibly uncomfortable. I'm not sure how they expected that moment to play out. The crowd being thrilled to see them together was a no-brainer. I have a feeling he told Dave they'd try a song or two and see how it goes, and Dave saw this as an opportunity to play up the publicity and force a full reunion. Totally awkward moment, but it made for great drama. :-)
Roth was a smart guy but he overplayed his cards on that MTV thing and you are totally right, your analisis matches Roth´s way of thinking 100%.
Never understood why Roth showed up in those mom jeans though.
@@sweetwilliam5150remember a friend saying back in 96’ he’s stuck in the 80’s…..Roth did have a good reason to try to get back and go on tour …his solo gig was failing miserably each record sold less than its predecessor…plus kiss had the reunion tour with ace and Peter in 1996 , and it sold out pretty much every show….first shoe in Detroit (my hometown) sold out in like 10 minutes…..Roth knew this and seen dollar signs when they started working on the songs in June 96.
But in the end, it was Roth that got used by VH. Their manager Ray Daniels was already in negotiations with the agent for lead singer Gary Cherone to be VH's new singer. VH had zero interest in a reunion with Roth, but found him useful to promote their "Greatest Hits Volume 1" album.
I'm with Sammy
Nothing like Rock 'n Roll Drama..
Luv it. That's what makes it Interesting 😁👍🏻
Halfway through the clip Hagar says he'd have never quit the band. Early in the clip Hagar says he'd have quit the band.
Egos and alcohol
Not to mention their breakfast of “eggs and alcohol”
I don't care how great of a voice Sammy Hagar had, Van Halen was still the BEST at the beginning & middle stages with Roth.
Only the first album.
At the end of the day, we were lucky to have lived in the era of VAN HALEN and of course, EDWARD.
The way they treated Sammy was disrespectful and what they did to David at the MTV awards is where they lost a lot of fandom after that people knew Eddie was a first class D-Bag. After what they did to Michael Anthony was the nail in the coffin for the band after that I could care less actually when the fired Sammy is when I stopped listening to them.
Eddie complaining about Hagar in this video is hilarious. Hagar was in the band for NINE YEARS. NINE YEARS! - without any controversy until the very last year. And suddenly the previous eight issue-free years was now moot? Ridiculous...
Fact: Warner Bros DEMANDED a greatest hits album . Captain Candyass was given the choice do the greatest hits album or walk . Captain Candyass walked . Buh bye
I'm not a big fan of Diamond Dave... but i's laughable that Eddie thought he stood a chance against him in a fight.
It's arguable. Dave sure knew about high kicks, scissors and the kind, but nobody has saw him in a proper fist fight.. and one thing i've learned about my martial arts years it's that maybe you have the moves, but being in a proper fight it's a different thing. Eddie and Alex would fist fight for years while drunk, and even if the cap thing was a bit.. I'd put a bit of my gambles to Eddie, not even mentioning the guy had a very heavy hand and a strong grip.
Roth would have left Ed a crumpled cig butt in an ashtray. ANY era....@@TheMadness5150
Roth kickboxed- trained by Benny Urquidez & allegedly had some real bouts. He wrote about it in his book- which is a strange read; it’s all over the place
Sammy's legacy post van Halen stands for itself. Look at Sam"s performances in 05, 10, or 2015 and they stand up much better than the Roth shows....
The VH brothers are great musicians but they're nuts.
Sniffy Eddie !!!
this is gold.
That night was all about Diamond Dave’s return to make VH mighty again kids!!
Love that this happened to musical lunkhead Hagar. He was totally classless when he joined the band. Talked shit about Roth non-stop (and still does). Then the same thing that happened to Roth courtesy of the VH brothers happened to him. Karma is a wonderful thing.
Second - what a tool Kurt Loder is.
Sammy looking like the white Serj Tankian
"you better be wearing a cup" (cuz he'll kick ya in the NUTZ!!)
Tonight's about me, not about your fucking hip!
Shows how fake he is and always has been. Emphasis on “has been”
I only listened to Van Halen for Ed’s guitar work and the sound of Al’s snare.
Idc who sings.
I totally believe Sam's side of the story. Ed seemed had a big heart but there appeared to be an immaturity.
Ed tried to steal Dave’s moment
Stop. Roth is unbearable. If I were Ed he would have been laid out
@@thegadflygang5381 Yeah sure...
@@thegadflygang5381 -LOL, Roth would have dropped you with a kick to the head
@Me-qp8vz good luck. Odds of Diamond Rothstein laying a finger on me in his prime or now are both as likely
Meaning none
Van Halen’s lied…Sammy is no slouch. Look at his life’s work in music, business, personal, and on and on. Sammy’s actions speak otherwise.
It was cool for Eddie to go into the studio with Michael Jackson in secret to record the lead guitar to beat it or something. He did not get any money or writing credit at all. That song / album kept VH out of the number one spot that year.
Dave says hey, I guess it’s cool
If we do a side project so he goes in and record’s California Girls project and he gets roasted by the VH’s.
I love VH but man looking back at all of these interviews really makes me wonder and opening my eyes about the VH’s.
He'll take a lie detector test.
Sad to see Eddie holding a cigarette-it’s what killed him. Legendary music from these guys
cigs kill many
He lived the life of 100 men. He couldn’t care less. Some people do whatever they want. Some people do what others want. Eddie did his own thing by his own rules. It wasn’t always pretty. But when it was on…it was on.
Love all these guys especially Ed, But Sammy is the only one I believe.
Especially since his story remains consistent through out the years.
I grew up with sammy and van halen. Loved both. I lost 2 of my favorites whrn they joined each other. I seen 5150 and never seen em live again. Never felt a loss. Then when mike left or got kicked or whatever happened i knew shit was fckd up.
Which side were you on in the big Van Halen David Lee Roth split?
Van Halen
He's a cop!
Oink oink
I grew up loving Van Halen and I idolized every single one of them, but I honestly cant imagine what it would be like to have to deal with David Lee Roth on a daily basis.
As a vocalist and as a front man, yes.
Everything else, no.
It broke my heart when all these guys were hating on each other and trying to make us fans "choose a side"...it was the worst and remember it like it was yesterday.
He couldnt sing, he's a circus act, and a trainwreck human being.
I would have chose the side of the music, which was Eddie and Alex.
@@danfoss1535 Yes, but the music was never as good without Dave. The Sam albums were ok...but each sold less than the previous for a reason. They were never as magical or remarkable. There were great songs, like CABO WABO, I really like BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, BLACK AND BLUE, the Twister song HUMANS BEING...but it wasn't as great. And the Cherone era truly sucked. I'm always fascinated by anything Eddie plays on...but with Dave, they still made the most lasting music of their career. I loved (and so did a lot of other fans) A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH. It was their best album since 1984.
I grew up with it too, and if you'll remember, Eddie and Alex were the ones to say the fans had to choose. So, given that ultimatum, I chose Roth.
You don't even know Roth, you turkey! You just cooked up a vision of "everything else" using your imagination or from hearing it secondhand.
The VH brothers were hard to be around!
Hopin and bopin best beat with the popin. 😂😂😂
They had the 💎 back... All they had to do was get out of the way and let him shine... Dude imagine how rad a whole new album that sounded like Can't get this stuff no more & Me wise magic......✌️
If they could have gotten along with Roth it would have been one of Rock's greatest comebacks ! Oh the Music would have been bad ass !
It wasn't ba??
Yeah, they really screwed up dangling Dave's coming back to the fans in '96 and then bringing in the singer of Extreme to make the worst album of their career. If Dave had come back, the reunion would have been bigger than the KISS reunion of the same year...and that was a HUGE comeback (though their reunion album, PSYCHO CIRCUS, was not great...partly because they, too, lied to the fans: Ace & Peter barely played on the entire LP). The two new Van Halen (with Dave) songs on BEST OF were really good (ME WISE MAGIC was actually an amazing song). The music world went crazy when it was looking clear that Dave was returning. And then they pissed off virtually the entire fanbase. Hell, they even pissed off the fans who preferred Hagar. In the same year, they kicked out Sammy and then seemed to bring back Dave and then pissed on that too. I know one VH fan who actually burned all of his Van Halen albums in October of 1996. If the reunion had worked out, just imagine...
I know some fans were mad when the band kicked out Michael Anthony when finally reuniting with Dave in 2006-7...but I didn't care. I remember Anthony being pretty vocal that he didn't want Dave back in 1996. I remember thinking, "Screw you, Anthony. You pushed the band to not bring Dave back in '96. Now he's back, and far more fans care if Dave is around instead of you."
I'm just glad they made one more album with Dave in 2012 with A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH. That was easily their best album since 1984. Eddie is gone, and it sucks. But I got to see VH with Dave three times during the reunion years (I was too young to see the original line-up 1978-1984) and all three shows were amazing. And though the band is over, I treasure the fact that there is one more great VH album with Dave (ADKOT) on my shelf next to the original six-pack. Alex & Dave are apparently still friends (Dave said a few years ago that he and Alex talk on the phone almost every day)...so maybe someday, they'll go through the vaults at 5150 and put together another album with all the leftover music Eddie had with new Dave vocals. That would be pretty awesome.
@@eaaivazian Sadly I don’t think we’ll see anything from the vault for a long long time. Wolfie will probably be the one to go through it and he’s not focused at all on Eddie’s shit atm since he’s currently trying to keep at it with his own band
I gotta be honest I think after F.U.C.K. we weren't getting any more pearls. Too much had happened and too many years at that point. I actually really love Me Wise Magic and even Tattoo more recently but the fact is the band was at full tilt with Sammy.
They were making their best music and going back to Dave would only be fun for Greatest Hits concerts
@@eaaivazian DLR was toast by 2006-07. His voice was shot and embarrassing.
Money, Egos,Alcohol,Drugs. The 4 Ingredients that always break Relationships know matter how you put it !
And morons that believe lies .
they came back and where up on stage and the moment was awkward for everyone in Van Halen and the camera was rolling. They should have had a five-minute chat.
Diamond Dave owned Beck kids!!
Huge Van Halen fan I am,, but parading Roth around on a video awards show was not a baby step.
Would Van Halen have got to the top of the mountain without Dave? I don't think so,
If Eddie would have put that cancer stick down at that moment and never picked it up he would still be here today
Bink Bonk and Dr Rockso
I love Van Halen both with Diamond Dave and Sammy Hagar. What VH did to Michael Anthony was heartless and I`m sure it damaged their reputation too. I try and pay no mind to the BS that occurs behind the scenes - just play!
David Lee Roth (Bloomington, Indiana, 10 de octubre de 1954) es un cantante estadounidense de hard rock. Es reconocido especialmente por haber sido el vocalista original de la renombrada banda estadounidense Van Halen, primero durante el período 1974-1985 y, varios años más tarde, desde 2007 hasta la disolución del grupo en 2020 tras el fallecimiento de su guitarrista, Eddie Van Halen. Entre tanto, se lanzó a una carrera en solitario que si bien cosechó bastantes éxitos en la década de los 80, no le valió la misma fama y atención que su tiempo en Van Halen. También es conocido por los pseudónimos "Diamond Dave" y "El Roth".
Listen, Nobody came out clean on this fiasco.
and terrible ideas and decisions were made by everyone.:
1) Ed and Al. Q: Why would you reach back to the past and re-ignite a relationship with a prior band member that ended so terribly with mud slinging that went on for years, just to use him for 2 new songs on greatest hits album? The answer is you should never go down this road whether the brothers did it to spite Hagar or for whatever reason, this move was destined to blow up in everyone's faces like it eventually did.
2.) David. Q: You had moved on with your life and carried your own post Van Halen years and proved to yourself and everyone else that their is a life for Dave after the initial success and stardom of the early days with the VH Brothers, why would you stop that legacy and put it in reverse just to step back into something you left in the first place because you grew apart with band members who after you left never had a kind word to say about you or ever cared to speak to you again.
A: Because Diamond Dave never gives up an opportunity to relevant.
Answer to #1 : Warner Bros said Dave or Sam . Ed was going to fight them til Gary Cherone showed up at his house in some flashy tacky Elvis style jumpsuit . That's when he gave up on Gary . And they were working on another album . It was in some entertainment trade paper
Michael Anthony was the only person that came out of this situation completely clean as he wisely avoided all of the drama that circulated around him.
@@akfreed6949 umm, i read somewhere, i can't really remember whose book, i don't recall if it was Sammy or Valerie's or the kind, but i remember reading that the Cherone thing blew out when they went on tour, because of his stage persona. Freaked the hell out of Eddie, asked to calm tf down and supposedly Gary said to him "this is how i am in stage", and that's why he was kindly invited by both WB and the brothers to part ways, in true VH fashion.
Remember when this shit REALLY seriously mattered? Lol. Take me back.
Sam, youo said earlier in the interview you would have quit.
it was all ray daniels . if their manager ed leffeler hadnt passed away hagar would have never ever left/kicked out, whatever u wanna call it. hagar wanted to get aerosmiths manager cuz he though if that manager could get the entire band of aerosmith sober, he could get EVH sober. the following up to balance would have been the VH takeover of the music industry and beyond. such a shame.... burn in hell ray daniels
Greats hits.. was their slow down fall and end
Drop dead legs indeed
Smoke ‘em up, Eddie!
You ever talk to me that way again, you better be wearing a cup? Lol what? Ok 👍🏻
The true Leader of "Van Halen" is Roth ( forever in HIS MIND!) After all, he invented the name! 🤣🤣🤪🙄
Invented? Did he “invent” Santana too?