*[The Great War Status: Stalemate]* *[Italy joins the Entente]* *[Italy get's kicked out of Africa]* *[Italy get's Naval Invaded]* *[Italy Capitulates]* *[Ottoman Empire uses Italian Alps to flank France]* *[France get's overwhelmed and capitulates]* *[Entente Surrenders]* Conclusion: *Italy joining the Entente caused it to collapse before the US could join* *CLASSIC HOI4 ITALY MOMENT* 🍕
@@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 I mean, they still got kicked out of Africa during the Italo-Turkish War of Libya, causing the Ottomans partial Mediterranean Dominance to launch a Naval Invasion of the Italian Heartland Peninsula So yeah, losing that War hastened the collapse of the Entente
@@Bitt3rSteel For Ottomans, You need to assissante Ataturk and brining Fevzi cakmak to the power and at the elections choose the " Kadro movement " and do the "Fulfil the Union of the Party and State" And you gonna fight the whole states that turks arent majority For Austria Do the "End the Dual Rule" It explains it at the spoilers, The most disaster one is Ottomans, They fight against many countries than austria but It'd be nice if u can do both of them!
@@Bitt3rSteel For Austrian Trap Path, You need to end the dual rule, for more of it you can check "reveal the spoilers" For Ottomans, You need to assinate Mustafa Kemal and make a coup with Fevzi Cakmak and choosing the kadro movement in-coming elections and you need to do the fulfil the union of party and state and every state which turks aren2t at majority is going to rebel against you
There is nothing like waking up to a dove jumpscare (long story) and finding out Bitt3r made a video about the Ottomans! So cool, love your videos man! Also, will you ever play Kaierreich? I think that that mod’s Ottomans also need a lot of help!
26:00 Ottomans couldn't do it because of the incident has occured in Sarikamis basically enver pasha tried to push through the border to all the way to center asia to free the Turks but because of the cold weather in sarıkamış and the ottomans couldnt afford nice and warm clothes 90.000 ottoman soldiers frooze to death
Italy: *uses dark magic to summon troops out of thin air in his nation* Bitt3r: *fully prepared with troops already surrounding Italian positions before said Italians even exist* Italy: *betrays the central powers exactly like irl* Bitt3r: “I’ll have to Anticipate that” *proceeds to curb stomp the Entente as the sick man of Europe* Please never stop making videos, I can’t live without this 😂
"If I have to kill all of you to get this done, so be it." My exact mindset when playing factions that have civil war or rebellions built into them LOL.
U go economically left take as much investments as u can then just go pan islamism or communism and not pay the debts, losing the balkan war doesnt matter cuz balkans mostly arent cores if u win the balkan war then unshould just release them as puppet so u only get investments in core places
fun fact: the Ottoman Public Debt Administration (OPDA) was created so that the Ottomans could pay back their debts and investors could get their returns (iirc). Though the main purpose of the OPDA was solely to make sure the Ottoman Empire doesn't default on their debts for the second time.
As for sultans, you have 4 options (you can trust me, i spent last 2 weeks playing exclusively Ottoman Empire in TGWR with my friend) Abdulmecid - some general buffs to stability, pp gain, some construciton factories - weak af Yusuf Izzedin - buffs to army and attack (a lot of buffs, but quite weak) - mid af Ahmed Nihad - out of the three available when you Intervene in the Elections, he used to be the best due to sheer amount of fucking buffs for industry this guy has, but since they nerfed Ottoman Empire to start with 12 factories instead of 48, usually it's too late to reap the benefits of this guy and the best one as of now: Abdulhamid II (the face from the first political focus) - if you go for coup instead of intervening, you can get this guy - he gets +2500 WEEKLY manpower on top of some other nice buffs, and more importantly - it allows you to go down the Shadow of Allah on Earth route, which enables you to instantly remove Sick man of Europe, and the best part - instantly default on debt (which means, you can get the focuses to spam factories via decisions, push your national debt to something like 500-600%, and then just default on debts and have a functional and VERY STRONG economy). The only problem with this guy is the fact that coup route gives you much more penalties early on, and you'll have problems with stability until 1915.
Abd-ul-Hamid is overrated but he's the best bet we can ask for. For Balkan War how many men you lost? I lost ±160k and beat 367k. Wonder why you suggest Abd-ul-Hamid
The purchase equipment decisions are incredible op, they just cost 10 pp and give enough equipment that you can outfit your entire army with just purchased equipment, so the fact that you might have +200% consumer goods from debt is irrelevant. Not to mention stacking enough consumer goods reductions with a good economy law will mean your massive debt doesn't even really cripple your economy that much.
The howitzers may not be amazing early game, but if I'm not mistaken, they scale mid to late game, and become much better than normal artillery. I always use them when I play this mod and usually the result is great. Unless things have changed recently. It's been a while since I last played it.
Hmmm very impressive stuff, but you should play the Ottomans in Kaissereich to experience an even more difficult (complicated) game. Save Attaturks disaster save Mr Bittersteel!
@@shadowmane6528 I've felt that previously but in recent updates the 3I send volunteers to the Cairo Pact so suddenly you have to deal with tanks in the desert...not a fun time
@@shadowmane6528it’s either or, I made an Air Force in kx which made the war trivial, but the minority management is so much worse, gwr ottomans star bad, but you can still easily win the Balkan war and nihad is just so op
Playing challenging states makes for the most interesting runs. Love this mod. EDIT: Haha, just realised you're also Belgian as well. I just couldn't tell, because you don't have a strong accent. Subscribed.
After just finishing playing as the Ottoman Empire I figured out if you rush army reform and surrender to the Italians then you can just barely hold on against the balkan war.
I never paid attention to this game since I was playing Civilization all these years. Historical names are spot on My God! As a Texan Ottoman I would love if the next bit was added though; In early August 1914, Churchill commandeered Sultan Osman and Reşadiye - two battleships bought by the Ottomans from Vickers and Armstrong. 500 Turkish troops had arrived in a steamer at Newcastle on Tyne to sail the ships home, when Churchill made this last minute decision to grab them for the British fleet. This decision - deemed ‘British treachery’ - came with no promise of compensation and helped sway the Turkish people in favour of siding with Germany. In August 1914, the Ottoman Empire signed a treaty of alliance with Germany, and formally entered the First World War on 28th October 1914, with the bombing of Russian Black Sea ports. The Triple Entente, or Allied Powers, declared war on the Ottoman Empire on 4th November.
@@Podzhagitel Yeah they are English terms. There was no such thing as Ottoman btw, the official name of the empire was Devlet-i Aliyye Muhammediyye meaning the Great State of Muhammed. So today Ottoman means Turkish Muslim.
Love the morning uploads, amazing start to the day! You're awesome BitterSteel, I would watch your videos if you exclusively played Germany and Turkey/Ottomans!
Hello bitt3rsteel can you play Japan in the downfall mod or selow hights it wold be so much fun and i hope do a naval guide and the best ships to build please and thank you very much for the enjoyment you providing us with Thanks so much 😊😊😊❤❤❤
The people who say to use howitzer probably dont know about the nerf the Howitzers got. Howitzers before were a must have but now artilers is just better
I love how, when Bitt3rSteel takes Athens and a few moments later he zooms out, Greece suddenly just has two capitals 😂 The other one is right besides his elite troops and the other one is in Crete
@Bitt3rSteel I love your videos, I think I've watched most of them! But quite often you make the menu pop up for a second, I guess from pressing Escape to deselect your units. That sometimes breaks my immersion, could you try not do that? Thanks!
Well Ottomans tried to do something you do in Caucasus but the equipments were insufficient, Army and the goverment shitty that leads to Battle of Sarikamish. 25.000 Ottoman died because frostbite.
Ah my favourite mod!
It's lovely, isn't it?
rambler bambler
@AlextheRambler can you save my hoi4 disaster ?
Could you play Togo in the Great War Redux with the real time mod enabled? Thank you!
the best one indeed
In order to get the peace deal, I think you have to give Paris or London to the Germans, they never anticipated the Ottomans rising back to glory.
Common Entente L
@@Bitt3rSteel They're too proud to accept an Ottoman W and would rather see Paris burn (who doesn't ?).
@@Bitt3rSteelligma
Play a game on the hardest mode or do a sandbox one cuz why not
sounds like bad devs
@@muhrichard8634 learn to respect
*[The Great War Status: Stalemate]*
*[Italy joins the Entente]*
*[Italy get's kicked out of Africa]*
*[Italy get's Naval Invaded]*
*[Italy Capitulates]*
*[Ottoman Empire uses Italian Alps to flank France]*
*[France get's overwhelmed and capitulates]*
*[Entente Surrenders]*
Conclusion: *Italy joining the Entente caused it to collapse before the US could join*
*CLASSIC HOI4 ITALY MOMENT* 🍕
Italy was never kicked out of Africa because they never took Libya. Remember?
@@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 I mean, they still got kicked out of Africa during the Italo-Turkish War of Libya, causing the Ottomans partial Mediterranean Dominance to launch a Naval Invasion of the Italian Heartland Peninsula
So yeah, losing that War hastened the collapse of the Entente
@@SYMBI05IS Alright, that makes sense.
True lol
Ottomam Empire basically Disaster Saves
The worst of them
And then there is eu4
@@turtle-ij4bs Ottomans in Eu4 are basically a slow descent towards a disaster save
I was just thinking, "wow this is a very realistic game" but then the Ottomans were in London
İt would be reality if ottomans had stabilty and did not coup every pasha last 100 years of the empire
Bittersteel: debt is just a number
Greeks: My knowlegde is past through
at least we dont have vanilla 20 x 70 day Turkey focuses just to unlock foreign policy 😩
This comment is underrated.
Yeah base game Turkey focua tree sucks ass. Affects and bonuses it gives are fine but everything just tooks forever.
@@simulacrumpilot2777yeah. They should make it something like 50 days if thwy want to make it long but 70 DAYS MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO *SHIET*
FINALLY AN OTTOMAN VIDEO! Been waiting for this for ever!
SAME!
He did one a while ago
Although he did lose
@@gagezi11a well he won my heart
fun fact: bitt3rsteel isnt bitter nor from steel no cap
idk he sounds pretty bitter ngl
i have seen his videos where he rescues disaster save. he's plenty bitter
He was pretty bitter when Albania revolted though
He’s bitter in that sometimes the game really hates him and he’s steel for how it takes more than a glitch to completely knock him down
Thank you for playing as ottomans! Can you try those trap-paths in kaiserreich? The ottoman and the austrian trap-paths to see If you can win em!
Not even a heart wow
See this bitter
What are the trap paths?
@@Bitt3rSteel For Ottomans, You need to assissante Ataturk and brining Fevzi cakmak to the power and at the elections choose the " Kadro movement " and do the "Fulfil the Union of the Party and State" And you gonna fight the whole states that turks arent majority
For Austria Do the "End the Dual Rule"
It explains it at the spoilers, The most disaster one is Ottomans, They fight against many countries than austria but It'd be nice if u can do both of them!
@@Bitt3rSteel For Austrian Trap Path, You need to end the dual rule, for more of it you can check "reveal the spoilers"
For Ottomans, You need to assinate Mustafa Kemal and make a coup with Fevzi Cakmak and choosing the kadro movement in-coming elections and you need to do the fulfil the union of party and state and every state which turks aren2t at majority is going to rebel against you
20:54 Hey, that's the Ottoman Sultan in vanilla Hoi4 except he looks younger.
11:23 Omer Fahreddin Paşa is a great general actually defended against 50k rebels with just 15k soldiers in Hejazi Province
Oohrah! Sooo many naval invasions.
Demanding Belgium countryball was great. Y’all better like the video.
I AM LITERALLY SOO HAPPY RN
Same
THE BEST MOD RETURNS!!!
I LOVE this mod
No, once when I played russia ww1 didnt Even break out on historical 😮💨
tgwr IS NOT the best mod
Not even close to the best mod, but anyway...
It's his opinion bruv 🤷🏻@@junker_1939
There is nothing like waking up to a dove jumpscare (long story) and finding out Bitt3r made a video about the Ottomans! So cool, love your videos man! Also, will you ever play Kaierreich? I think that that mod’s Ottomans also need a lot of help!
1600's Ottoman Empire 🗿💀☠️
26:00 Ottomans couldn't do it because of the incident has occured in Sarikamis basically enver pasha tried to push through the border to all the way to center asia to free the Turks but because of the cold weather in sarıkamış and the ottomans couldnt afford nice and warm clothes 90.000 ottoman soldiers frooze to death
🤕
Title: The Ottoman Empire sucks and that won't stop me!
Me, thinking about EU4 wondering what he's smoking:
Would still be fitting for a game as Hisn Kayfa, Byz, Trebizond, Karaman, Albania...?
@ yeah but the ottomans in eu4 dont suck, the AI does
@@phoenicianIII I meant sucks in the sense of "fuck you neighbor", not them being weak.
@@JoeZombie-nq7qj valid, just not what i meant
Virgin hoi4 ottomans vs.
Chad eu4 ottomans
24:32 The vitriol in that “So be it” is a rare glimpse of the righteous fury of the Belgians!
Italy: *uses dark magic to summon troops out of thin air in his nation*
Bitt3r: *fully prepared with troops already surrounding Italian positions before said Italians even exist*
Italy: *betrays the central powers exactly like irl*
Bitt3r: “I’ll have to Anticipate
that” *proceeds to curb stomp the Entente as the sick man of Europe*
Please never stop making videos, I can’t live without this 😂
"If I have to kill all of you to get this done, so be it." My exact mindset when playing factions that have civil war or rebellions built into them LOL.
"debt is just a number"
one of the greatest quotes heard by american politicians
Said Halims portrait looks like turkish Alex Jones
Ottoman empire is just too overpowered if u go the right path
U go economically left take as much investments as u can then just go pan islamism or communism and not pay the debts, losing the balkan war doesnt matter cuz balkans mostly arent cores if u win the balkan war then unshould just release them as puppet so u only get investments in core places
fun fact: the Ottoman Public Debt Administration (OPDA) was created so that the Ottomans could pay back their debts and investors could get their returns (iirc). Though the main purpose of the OPDA was solely to make sure the Ottoman Empire doesn't default on their debts for the second time.
25:58 imagine doing it while the weather temp -30 degree and your army literally has only thin low quality clothes
"Debt is just a number" and prison is just a free vacation
cringe pfp, usually it will be war and not prison
"I dont care what it costs, debt is just a number"
Ooh someone took after america!
oh yes it’s all over 1897 ottoman-greek war again; won in the battlefield, lost at the table
24:23 basically every Sultan at some point😂
As for sultans, you have 4 options (you can trust me, i spent last 2 weeks playing exclusively Ottoman Empire in TGWR with my friend)
Abdulmecid - some general buffs to stability, pp gain, some construciton factories - weak af
Yusuf Izzedin - buffs to army and attack (a lot of buffs, but quite weak) - mid af
Ahmed Nihad - out of the three available when you Intervene in the Elections, he used to be the best due to sheer amount of fucking buffs for industry this guy has, but since they nerfed Ottoman Empire to start with 12 factories instead of 48, usually it's too late to reap the benefits of this guy
and the best one as of now:
Abdulhamid II (the face from the first political focus) - if you go for coup instead of intervening, you can get this guy - he gets +2500 WEEKLY manpower on top of some other nice buffs, and more importantly - it allows you to go down the Shadow of Allah on Earth route, which enables you to instantly remove Sick man of Europe, and the best part - instantly default on debt (which means, you can get the focuses to spam factories via decisions, push your national debt to something like 500-600%, and then just default on debts and have a functional and VERY STRONG economy). The only problem with this guy is the fact that coup route gives you much more penalties early on, and you'll have problems with stability until 1915.
new patch just came in, and sultan paths became a little bit weaker. but at least they fixed broken decisions mechanics
Abd-ul-Hamid is overrated but he's the best bet we can ask for. For Balkan War how many men you lost? I lost ±160k and beat 367k. Wonder why you suggest Abd-ul-Hamid
‘Still shit, but slight less shit’ story of my life
I heard that the high score on this belongs to a guy called Mustafa Kemal.
The purchase equipment decisions are incredible op, they just cost 10 pp and give enough equipment that you can outfit your entire army with just purchased equipment, so the fact that you might have +200% consumer goods from debt is irrelevant. Not to mention stacking enough consumer goods reductions with a good economy law will mean your massive debt doesn't even really cripple your economy that much.
8:48 "You get some you losse some"
-A wise man
It depends in the time,
you play at the fall of ottomans, go play at year 1566
hadi ya gerçekten mi
9:09 Bittersteel being eastern europe politician for a moment 😂
The howitzers may not be amazing early game, but if I'm not mistaken, they scale mid to late game, and become much better than normal artillery.
I always use them when I play this mod and usually the result is great. Unless things have changed recently. It's been a while since I last played it.
Props to bitterstell for pronouncing the names at an acceptable quality/accuracy
Hmmm very impressive stuff, but you should play the Ottomans in Kaissereich to experience an even more difficult (complicated) game. Save Attaturks disaster save Mr Bittersteel!
I find great war redux ottomans Harder then Kaiserreich
@@shadowmane6528 I've felt that previously but in recent updates the 3I send volunteers to the Cairo Pact so suddenly you have to deal with tanks in the desert...not a fun time
@@shadowmane6528it’s either or, I made an Air Force in kx which made the war trivial, but the minority management is so much worse, gwr ottomans star bad, but you can still easily win the Balkan war and nihad is just so op
Already subscribed but video liked just because of the tidbit at 7:00 in. Loved that bit.
Playing challenging states makes for the most interesting runs. Love this mod.
EDIT: Haha, just realised you're also Belgian as well. I just couldn't tell, because you don't have a strong accent. Subscribed.
After just finishing playing as the Ottoman Empire I figured out if you rush army reform and surrender to the Italians then you can just barely hold on against the balkan war.
Ottoman empire in Ww1: 😐😑😐🤢🤮
Ottoman Beylik And At its peak: 🗿
Almost right with the Abdulhamid part, the constitutionalists failed miserably against Russia in 1877-1878
Hello bitt3rsteel I like how you can take any nation in any condition and turn it into a world conquering empire
Le'ts gooooo I asked yo to do a replay of the ottoman empire and finally you did it, you r my favourite hoi 4 youtuber
1:05 Funny how the mod team got an illiterate person to write the text about illiteracy.
Pro tip- pick nehid as your sultan as his buffs to industry are so op, and never get rid of him through balance of power
To be fair, the Ottoman Empire only sucks when you’re using the 1914 borders because it’s basically just turkey and a couple small countries
I never paid attention to this game since I was playing Civilization all these years. Historical names are spot on My God! As a Texan Ottoman I would love if the next bit was added though;
In early August 1914, Churchill commandeered Sultan Osman and Reşadiye - two battleships bought by the Ottomans from Vickers and Armstrong. 500 Turkish troops had arrived in a steamer at Newcastle on Tyne to sail the ships home, when Churchill made this last minute decision to grab them for the British fleet. This decision - deemed ‘British treachery’ - came with no promise of compensation and helped sway the Turkish people in favour of siding with Germany. In August 1914, the Ottoman Empire signed a treaty of alliance with Germany, and formally entered the First World War on 28th October 1914, with the bombing of Russian Black Sea ports. The Triple Entente, or Allied Powers, declared war on the Ottoman Empire on 4th November.
a texan… ottoman…
@@Podzhagitel Yeah they are English terms. There was no such thing as Ottoman btw, the official name of the empire was Devlet-i Aliyye Muhammediyye meaning the Great State of Muhammed. So today Ottoman means Turkish Muslim.
@@alp2ccc138 well you learn something new every day. selam pardner! yeehaw haydi!
Love the morning uploads, amazing start to the day! You're awesome BitterSteel, I would watch your videos if you exclusively played Germany and Turkey/Ottomans!
About 26:00, actually ottomans tried it, but in reality, trying that actually turned out to be the stupid decision, and sad. Read Sarıkamış disaster.
Hello bitt3rsteel can you play Japan in the downfall mod or selow hights it wold be so much fun and i hope do a naval guide and the best ships to build please and thank you very much for the enjoyment you providing us with
Thanks so much 😊😊😊❤❤❤
I'll check it out!
The people who say to use howitzer probably dont know about the nerf the Howitzers got.
Howitzers before were a must have but now artilers is just better
Also another thing to say is that the Germans need to control paris in order for entante to surender
I love how, when Bitt3rSteel takes Athens and a few moments later he zooms out, Greece suddenly just has two capitals 😂
The other one is right besides his elite troops and the other one is in Crete
I was wrong, I didn't know that Crete was a puppet of the Greecs.
Really the best route for the Ottomans is to stay out of this war entirely.
By the way, the action Army path looks like the historical path because theres a focus that makes Ataturk the Leader
Babe wake up, bitt3rsteel uploaded another mod video
The futurama clips always got me dying, still my favorite show ever
I'm Kaiser Wilhelm II, the first wars of gas and like the godfathers the sequel kicks ass. ;)
Ottoman Empire. How to create a disaster save before even pressing play on the date counter.
Bittersteel: tries to push Russia back until the Soviet revolt begins
Also bittersteel: has a revolt of his own right afterwards
You should modernise army much earlier but great video
you were so good that scripted events bugged and did not work. in my game when germany enters paris, a peace deal accepted.
That thumbnail sayind useless and terrible ,i felt it
3:50 you know what else is massive?
It’s CRAZY that I was gonna comment the same thing, the chances were really LOW
GET OUT!!!
23:13 you cheeky bastard did us dirty
i've had the opposite issue where the entente surrendered before I capped any of the majors
"I have to conclude my Russian campaign quickly." :D
What a coincidence, I was just looking for another Ottoman Empire video.
hoi4 players when they look at a focus tree: I'd like to do the monarchy path
I have been waiting for this
that music on the background gonna kill me.
As a turk ottomans really sucked near the collapse.
2:38 is the most Hoi4 thing i have ever heard.
Could you do a guide on Britain? It's the only major country that you haven't done a guide for I think
Next do MacArthur in Old World Blues!!! Glory to America!
26:03 when the ottomans tried that in ww1 they lost 70-80K man due to the weather 😢
30:54 with 0,25x speed here you go a beatiful sea map...
You can tell how long from the poll to the actal relase of the video that its was painful
I've been waiting so long for this video lol
Calm down man, this empire wasn't built in a day, and it won't be fixed in a day.
13:43
I’m practically certain you can Finnish this before world war 2
Finish 😂
You know those Finns, fighting to the death
@Bitt3rSteel I love your videos, I think I've watched most of them!
But quite often you make the menu pop up for a second, I guess from pressing Escape to deselect your units.
That sometimes breaks my immersion, could you try not do that? Thanks!
with the last sultan u prob mean abulhamid II , u can get em actually in great war btw
My fav yt playing one of my fav mods! LOVE IT!
How people dont take the opening the economy path you can get about 14 civs with only 1 focus
Because if you don't do the political path fast enough, the purge is so bad
29:48 "the cream of the French army" 🤨
I hope your wife appreciates the hells you go through
That like and subscribe threat worked 😅😂🥲🫣
Literally the best nation for this mod playing the turks is so much fun and good for skill practice
Ah finally! The Ottomans!
The ottomans achieved fiscal responsibility, but only after capping the Greeks coincidence?
I THINK NOT!
there is one plain tile in bulgaria border if you charge from there behind of that tile is also lot of plains you can end war easily
Devleti yaşat ki devlet yaşasın, devlet başkanı Bitt3rSteel için like ❤
23:10 You made me look!
What happened there?
@@raubwurstBittersteel got a discord notification
@@ShadowOfThePit Ah, thank you
For some reason I get the feeling you like Futurama...
Well Ottomans tried to do something you do in Caucasus but the equipments were insufficient, Army and the goverment shitty that leads to Battle of Sarikamish. 25.000 Ottoman died because frostbite.