Was It Worth The Wait? Vosteed RSKAOS
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00:00 What is the deal?
01:02 Blades
06:37 Handles
09:58 Strength - Наука та технологія
Appreciate honest reviews like this one. They are difficult to find these days. 👊🏻
I know I speak for a lot of people.... thank you for this very honest review and highlighting this concern. Much respect.
Cold steel tri ad lock is the king of king
Shark lock?
@@chrisdiaz7615the shark lock is a great lock. But the Triad lock resembles a traditional Back lock but has been redesigned…or updated a bit. It is an amazing lock.
That case would end up in my fishin bag, and not with a knife inside.😊
Honestly those designs scream flea market special. Their durability is highly suspect
Thank you for this video. That was definitely a game changer for myself.
Id think that the issue with the lockbar overtravel after some spinewhacks could be remedied by hardening the lockbar to a slightly higher hrc so it could withstand the force and spring back into place instead of holding a warp, that said context is important here, the lock didnt fail but after whacking it a couple times it developed play, is the knife still usable? Yes, is the result ideal? No, do liner and framelocks have utter failures with the same test? Yes...the data is great to have i just dont see this being an issue for casual users, hard users arent carrying their folders to beat on anyways theyre carrying a fixed blade or something made by demko, something thats interesting is that the longer ive owned my spydercos with the compression lock the more that lockbar travels by default so the people in the comments talking about it being a china issue just lack the ability to see from a broader perspective...just my 10 cents, thanks for testing these🍻
Appreciate the honesty!! Thanks, man.
What a disappointment. Shame they didnt try it on some budget models first. Might be a bit more forgivable.
I’ll stick with my Manix ball bearing locks. I would have no worries spine whacking them. I think some of these companies use inferior internal materials - stop pins, liners, etc.
Just being curious, in which situation would you spine whack your folder?
Manix 2 = one of the best damn EDC EVER!!
G'day Aaron, not normally my thing but I dig the ascetic of the sheepsfoot job, ....... minus the thumb slot anyway. And yep the "reverse" dual grind doesn't do it any favors either; what on earth is that about, ..... are we missing something here, ...... the thick bit being so short at the handle end, surely its not meant to be a similar concept to Moras Kansbol and Eldris, LOL.
I've got an old budget, CRKT Directive, (with liner lock), that I often throw around for fun, ..... in fairness it did start out around 30-ish % but lock up is still perfect @ 50%.
It's a prime example of change for change's sake I reckon and indeed the marketing there of.
Your spine whacking didnt appear to be particularly hard, maybe akin to dropping it from a meter or 2. Crikey, you'd expect a decent torch to hold up to that.
For any folder to do that, ........ forget the 200+ USD, ....... you'd have to pay me to take it ...... and then bin it ; )
I'd keep the case though; .... perhaps that's why they come with such a robust case; ....... because they're so fragile ......... hehehe.
Cheers Duke.
That's a bummer a design like that has a such a failure... I agree with you as well regarding the compound grind. Why have the thicker part of the blade at the back of the blade? It would have been better as a tanto blade with the thicker grind up front to beef up the tip.
Great video, as always.
I am very suspicious of Vosteed knives. This one appears to be a better-built lock.
Thank you for an amazing video.
Thanks for watching!
I really Like the lock. IT seems to me that IT JUST do need some geometri improvement, but the idea Is really good And Have the potential
I have both of these knives with the wharncliffe in black and sheep’s foot in silver and I really like them with the wharncliffe the better of the two. I love the balance and feel of them in my large hand. I do find the wharncliffe more functional for my needs. I’m fine with the locking system so far and have never had any problem with them yet. I am never going to use the back of my knife like a hammer to use or even test. Nor am I going to use the knife as mini machete EDC. I own large fixed blades for those tasks when I need to. Maybe vosteed’s locking system description is in need of updating . I own many knives. I also own several vosteed knives, along with American made Spyderco knives and microtech knives like the Stitch which I own two of,and love. And several other brands and models.
Great Review Aaron.... 👍🖖
That liner acts as an "I" beam or wedge between the tang and a stop pin. And when you spine whacked it, it started to collapse the "I", and that's why the lock moves over farther than it should and it will forever have blade play. The liner material is completely insufficient.
The case looks perfect for shotgun chokes
Just being curious, in which situation would you spine whack your folder?
I.e. in which situation would such a force even occur on that spot?
This makes me sad but at the same time i have seen other people spine wax the heck out of them and they are fine.
these look like strong knives
I don't understand why you got so much flack over wacking the back of the knife to test the lock mechanism. It's not as if you put it in a vise and took a hammer to it. For me, these knives are over designed and under perform. I'll stick with carrying a Super Freek in my pocket.
I can agree, I’ll stick with my pm2. I will say tho I’ve been seeing some amazing looking blades lately tho. They are expensive but I know I’ll bite the bullet and buy a new knife soon😂😂 I haven’t got a new one since early 2023 when I got a chaves liberation street. It’s a great knife as well
Aaron, I bought the Joker knife NOMAD 6.5 from you. It a great knife but I would perfer a Kydex sheath instead of a leather one. Do you sell a Kydex sheath for that model? Thanks
I won’t use a folding knife for “heavy use” but honestly if I were to, it would be the buck 110 since they are tried and true, or the AD 15 for the scorpion because the harder you press or hold it, the stronger the lock. Seems pretty safe like that
I think i have a picture on my channel of my failed ad15 lite lock. its a novelty design. this was a pre gsm cold steel, the warranty replacement was post gsm, and it is superior in every way, grinds and final bevel was symetrical vs the old cold steel. the recon 1 in s35vn is still my favorite knife, a very large yet thin usable blade.
I'd say Recon One or AD 10. The tri-ad lock didn't fail on me when I used it as a step. It held my 185 pounds like I didn't exist and still works like new.
How did it fail?@@john0270
I was on the fence with this knife, not any more I don't abuse my knives but will use them as hard as needed in a pinch
I will pass
Skipped that and ordered a Caliber.
waiting for a review of that MH12 pro
to the people saying there’s better knife options for that price point, that is a very subjective. it all depends on what youre looking for in a knife. this knife checks all the boxes for me personally and what I’ll be using it for. if you want something for hard use and to take with you in the bush, get something more durable then. I love this knife but I will agree that it is slightly over priced.
No more Vosteeds for me, sold otf every one accept the one that still doesn't work..
They tell me to contact support!! It took over 6 months for them to get things to replace the damage parts!! And still the knife don't work as it supposed to do !!
Which one is your favorite? I like the black one personally
Same!
@@gideonstactical great video and superb editing! Can tell you definitely put some time into making a quality product and it was very enjoyable to watch, as always!
Can you please review eather specialist or tactics backpacks from first tactical? I have a first tactical specialist half day backpack it's great 1000 d tuff took it out hiking there it around it's the best pack I've ever have.
Wuondgeometry wicked blades
The only thing I like is the box xD
12:08 Hahaha, should have known that wouldn't work; since that steel has some spring to it. Would need to over-bend it.
Fresh spin = less cutting edge lol
Fresh spin = WE Roxie 3/4's homage 🤔😆
And BTW. Restrictions about lenght in US are about lenght whole blade, or only lenght of cutting edge?
It's a cool looking Instagram knife. That's about it. I respect the designer a lot. But going to these China OEM's means you end up selling an inferior product that's going to have some kind of issue since they rush them out of factory XYZ to jump on the latest hype trend in time to sucker a bunch of FOMO people out of their money. And then it's yesterday's news and all of them end up on the secondary at bargain bin prices because, shocker, nobody wants them anymore. Wash, rinse, repeat. Thanks for the cautionary tale, Aaron 👍
I’d like to get just the case. I rarely carry a folder, cuz I much prefer fixies.
will you be at blade show west?
No but hope to be Atlanta 👍
Lock issues aside. Blade style is not my cup of tea. If it were, the lock issue would be a deal breaker. Not because I'd ever wack on the blade but, to me, it wont stand up to the test of time. Something in the mechanism is either tempered incorrectly or is the wrong material to use. Especially at that price range, thats unacceptable.
Very disappointing. Those were not overly hard thwacks. Definitely changes the way I look at the knife.
Meh, marketing sans performance, too many other good options.
For EDC hollow grind is king all day long!! The flat grind trend is getting old real quick!!
Smockish
Great design but too small and finger choils on folders are pretty much unnecessary.
Great point!
Lol I've seen spine wack fails in expensive knives too especially the benchmade adamas,but to be honest spine wack testing isn't something I do. I've always been of the mind that if I'm doing something hard use that's fixed blade territory.,but if I had to have a hard use knife I trusted to do that with..triad lock for sure..my spyderco pm2 compression lock has never been a problem either.,but failure with liner locks,and button locks seems the be fairly common. Usually equates to geometry of surfaces or weak materials,but most people won't subject their edc knives to the point of failure in test like that especially if the knife has a premium price..one benchmade I know personally won't fail is the persidio ii in cf elite its been damn near driven sideways through a 2x4,and from what I've seen spine wack doesn't phase it at all,but that's an axis lock..so..draw what you will from that conclusion.
Everyone’s doing spine whacks.
To much $, for lock to fail that easy !
Because of the angle of the tip, if you were pushing tip first into anything I think there’s a greater chance of it closing on your hand. A weak lock would bother me less if it wasn’t a sheep’s foot / wharcliffe. Weird choice to put out one of each of those. Good info, pass on this one.
Volume barely audible.
$250 is too much $$$ for a foreign made knife...there are ton of made in America made premium steels for similar or less expensive price...plus the locking mechanism fail...nope I shall pass
Name one
I've said it before and I will say it again: Linerlocks are the weakest locks out there!
I know it sucks cause you really liked this one, didn’t you?
I did! 😢
In what world r people hitting there knives muiltiple times on the spine?
My world baby!
Carry a fixed-blade. "Problem" solved.
Both knives are not my cup of tea.
Sal Glesser: Compression Lock USA
Anon Chinese Co: ConPreSsIoN LoCk At HoMe
This whole quantity over quality “knife collector” stuff will never make sense to me. People used to take pride in their collections because they were unique and hard to find. (I’m not talking to you Aaron) people are just buying low quality stuff cause it looks cool ? a huge portion of these Chinese products are not fit for use. People are literally (not you Aaron) making excuses for why it’s ok that their favorite import knife lock fails…..weird times, just one man’s opinion.
Yes because american knife companies have infallible knife locks, Microtech? Zero tolerance? Never heard of them.
I remember when this knife was the hottest, hype-est release and it was sold out everywhere. Then they had to change the name. Then you never heard of it again once that hype went away and every body bought into it hook, line, and sinker. These CPOS knives are meant for instagram EDC dump pictures. Not for use, whether that's hard or light. They (CCP) are very good at marketing to flavor-of-the-week trends in online communities. Avoid CPOS knives if you want a reliable knife. Or heck, just a knife you can actually take pride in owning and showing off 😎👊
12:59 Yeah, nobody should do that. And I fail to see when you would actually do that. I can't even picture a situation where the simulated spine whack force would occur. Even dropping your knife would not do that, since physics.
It’s funny you brought up WE as a comparison. These seem to follow the WE concept of form over function. Everything revolves around design and aesthetics. That’s fine for folks who want pocket jewelry and want to show off their $400 folder. You made the mistake of actually testing it as a functional knife. No, you aren’t missing anything trying to figure out the reverse compound grind. Stop trying to assign function to form! It’s all for looks.
Truthfully, it was all the buy-American critics who created these Chinese monsters. For a decade, everyone was screaming about Asian makers “stealing” designs and making “counterfeit” blades. Okay. So now they are doing/producing their own designs. Does that make everyone happy? Does a 100% original design guarantee a good knife, or just a pretty knife?
China.