I have an 1999 600cc TTR enduro. Is there any 450 size enduro that is with the same maintenence level? I just change oil, filter and just ride. I dont want a bike that i have to change oil and half of motorparts after 100 hours of driving. Any recomendations...im total noob in the matter. I just enjoy enduro as a hobbie...only the driving part...i hate the fixing part :D
@@igasuguseidasju1699 Most 4stroke enduro bikes oil change 10-15h, air filter clean or change whenever it is dirty (approx same as oil), piston 200-300h. If that is too much then maybe get a 690/701. Or honda CRF-L
I just bought a 450 XCF-W here in the States for mostly the exact same reasons you stated. I put the map switch on it so I can access the quick shifter and have control over the power delivery. It is so much less fatigue than the 300XC and the 350XC-F. I'm loving it. Can't wait to pile on the miles!
I've got a 250 EXC-F and absolutely love it for trail riding and light dual sort riding. If I was doing a rally, a 350 or 450 or 500 would be perfect. I bought what makes me happy and I'm not lookin' back! One day i'll get a bigger bike. but for now. I'm loving it!
Good vid. Interesting insight. I like KTMs (Husky and GasGas also) because their bikes just feel right, specially in the suspension department. Not perfect, but fine as a starting point. I used to own a Yam WR450 (2008 model). The suspension was never right. The front didn't match the rear. Thanks
Do yourself a favour, and when you change your front sprocket for the first time, switch out the dome washer for an aftermarket one. The factory ktm dome washer goes flat after a little while and your bike will end up leaking oil all over the chain. Also keep an eye on the swing arm where the shock connects as the rubber from the mudguard can wear away at the swing arm. Great choice for a bike, I'm sure you'll have a blast
If only rallies would accept 500 cc then the unicorn will be the 500 EXC so much more confortable engine, less revving and more useable torque when needed. Especially in the dunes, tried one recently. Looking forward to your videos on the bike 👍
Most rallies do actually accept bikes over 450cc, it’s mostly Dakar that banned them. Actually, in most rallies, the 500cc class is pretty popular these days!
@@KRANKiT yes i know but i was referring to FIM rallies with real navigation. I know Hellas can we done with a 890 for instance but i was talking about rallies like Abu Dhabi, Ruta 40, Rallye du Maroc…etc where a 500 would be ideal except that you need fuel range and those accessories don’t hold up the brutality of those rallies. There is a reason why people invest in a 450 rally replica when they are serious about it. My buddy vincent just did Dakar 2024 with a 3 years old 450 rally replica and he je had zero problems aside from crashing on day one 😂. My point is when you do those small rallies like yes KTM enduro can do it but for the real deal you cannot cheap out of on the bike.
@@mototrailz main reason is because I prefer a slightly more playful engine, price wise they’re similar enough to where that was not a factor. Also, if I ever do decide to do some fim stuff, it will make life easier with classes. But mainly, I preferred the engine. Personal preference mostly
as a ktm user, husky and gas gas i have to say that they break just way too much, the clutch blows up, the engine tends to eat the valves and the chain for the valves needs frecuent manteninence, they are fast and can get anything done, but in terms of reliability i'll rather stick with a honda or a sherco even (they also break down but its usually crankshaft)
Keep up the great work! Got myself a 2021 FE450 as a first bike (second really, the first one fell victim to some asshole with a cordless angle grinder) and present to myself heading into my 50's. All my friends thought I was completely off my rocker and that impression just got worse when I sank almost as much again into it to kit it out as a long range rally bike. I've yet to do a single stage of actual rally, but as a consolation prize the Swedish TET is 2841km of mostly gravel road so I get my go-fast kicks there instead. For now.
Nice video! Makes perfect sense to choose the 2024 450 for your purposes. When I choose the 2024 350 last September as I first dirt bike, I did it because It is all-round machine and it turn out to be exactly what I was expecting. These 2024 KTM enduro bikes are really good. Watch out for these custom clutch levers - I burned my clutch at 25 hour, because of one of these with the mechanical advantage.
My last KTM dirt bike was a 2014 350 excf. It was an awesome bike but missed a touch of low down snap and excitement that I missed from my previous Honda CRF450X and WR450. I think if I got another one it would be the 450 or 501
I don’t think I’ll have a use for that tank, I’m keeping it simple. You’ll see in the next video exactly how this bike is set up, that video will cover the fuel situation too.
guys i work as an delivery guy food , every day 130km working i thinking to buy 450\500 and make it super moto , the only thing that make me over thinking is the treatments and parts , plz let me know what you thinking about that , i just love super moto and [low weight and maximum power] today i work with scooter 125 and so boring but and least very Cheap expenses
Yeah, but the 450 steers sooo well from the rear!!! 🥰 Never saw myself riding one and had really bad buyers remorse for the first 3 rides.. then I learned how to ride it.. from the rear. Adore it now. Nobody who knows anything wants to ride a Honda 😂
PDS kicks ass. Nothing wrong with it if you have enough brains to set the sag. Ask the next dude who hates it and he won't even have the first clue how suspension even works. Somehow he's better than PDS that's won oodles of championships on every continent for decades and needs only a $30 heim joint for maint every 3 years.. the same time frame that claps out 3 entire Japanese chassis.
From what I know, there shouldn’t be much difference between the 2. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it’s basically the same engine at its core
I'd imagine that the 500s are slightly more reliable. The engines are actually identical aside from the stroke length, so the 450 revs quicker and higher, whereas the 500 has more torque. If I'm not mistaken, the 500 also has a slightly wider range gearbox, but other than that, the bikes are really identical. I think this video gets it right, the 450 is better at higher revs and ridden faster, and the 500 is more of a multi-purpose machine. In many ways I wish I'd bought a 500 exc rather than a 450 because I have no intention to race, but they're both great bikes
I’ve been happy with a 350 for years, now on the market for a new bike I’m very undecided and thinking about the 450 (for curiosity and reasons not dissimilar from yours). I’ve all but discarded the 500, feels heavy(ier), vibrates a lot, etc. So probably a toss up between husky 350/450 (with brembo brakes), just because I like the plastics better…
Because of your videos I bought myself a "Hardenduro". Nothing new... for me, as a total noob not really an option... But I got a Husaberg FE 350 from 2013. I sadly couldn't ride it until now... but I hope if will be fun :D
I can’t stand KTM because everyone has one. I have two for the exact reason you do 😂 I wish more people bought Beta et al and the Japanese would step up
After watching your video, I changed my mind. I also plan to buy a 450EXC instead of a 1290ADV. Although the 1290 can take me far away, I feel that the 450 will bring me more happiness. Moreover, China requires that 1290 vehicles must be scrapped after 13 years, but the 450 does not. Hahahahaha Thank you.
Sooo, because yout husqy was unreliable… you bought a KTM? Yo do know they are all owned by the same parent company (KTM) yes? 😂 Awesome video nonetheless!
My most frequent activities are watching UA-cam videos like this and changing gears on my 350.
you should buy a 450
Tough life ... :))
I have an 1999 600cc TTR enduro. Is there any 450 size enduro that is with the same maintenence level? I just change oil, filter and just ride.
I dont want a bike that i have to change oil and half of motorparts after 100 hours of driving. Any recomendations...im total noob in the matter.
I just enjoy enduro as a hobbie...only the driving part...i hate the fixing part :D
haha same!
@@igasuguseidasju1699 Most 4stroke enduro bikes oil change 10-15h, air filter clean or change whenever it is dirty (approx same as oil), piston 200-300h. If that is too much then maybe get a 690/701. Or honda CRF-L
Twin headed bolts. Thank you for pointing out how awesome that hardware choice is.
Honestly, it makes so much sense and is so simple to implement!
we cannot guarantee that you won't blow your engine, but at least you won't break the clutch cover or radiators! Great video!
FINALLY, A MAN’S BIKE 🎉
I raced enduro a few years and PDS was really good in all aspects for me.
I just bought a 450 XCF-W here in the States for mostly the exact same reasons you stated. I put the map switch on it so I can access the quick shifter and have control over the power delivery. It is so much less fatigue than the 300XC and the 350XC-F. I'm loving it. Can't wait to pile on the miles!
I've got a 250 EXC-F and absolutely love it for trail riding and light dual sort riding. If I was doing a rally, a 350 or 450 or 500 would be perfect. I bought what makes me happy and I'm not lookin' back! One day i'll get a bigger bike. but for now. I'm loving it!
The 250s are great bikes too! A bit underrated if I’m honest
@@KRANKiT my thoughts as well!
I seen your videos your 250 is sick such a unicorn in the states and your looks fast like sx fast but it’s the enduro model 250 #ubexcross
Good vid. Interesting insight. I like KTMs (Husky and GasGas also) because their bikes just feel right, specially in the suspension department. Not perfect, but fine as a starting point. I used to own a Yam WR450 (2008 model). The suspension was never right. The front didn't match the rear.
Thanks
Interesting, I never rode one of those Yamahas
Do yourself a favour, and when you change your front sprocket for the first time, switch out the dome washer for an aftermarket one. The factory ktm dome washer goes flat after a little while and your bike will end up leaking oil all over the chain. Also keep an eye on the swing arm where the shock connects as the rubber from the mudguard can wear away at the swing arm. Great choice for a bike, I'm sure you'll have a blast
If only rallies would accept 500 cc then the unicorn will be the 500 EXC so much more confortable engine, less revving and more useable torque when needed. Especially in the dunes, tried one recently. Looking forward to your videos on the bike 👍
Most rallies do actually accept bikes over 450cc, it’s mostly Dakar that banned them. Actually, in most rallies, the 500cc class is pretty popular these days!
@@KRANKiT yes i know but i was referring to FIM rallies with real navigation. I know Hellas can we done with a 890 for instance but i was talking about rallies like Abu Dhabi, Ruta 40, Rallye du Maroc…etc where a 500 would be ideal except that you need fuel range and those accessories don’t hold up the brutality of those rallies. There is a reason why people invest in a 450 rally replica when they are serious about it. My buddy vincent just did Dakar 2024 with a 3 years old 450 rally replica and he je had zero problems aside from crashing on day one 😂. My point is when you do those small rallies like yes KTM enduro can do it but for the real deal you cannot cheap out of on the bike.
For sure, I agree ... I wouldn’t “cheap out” if I were to do the Dakar either, and in desert rallies the big bikes could be better.
@@KRANKiT then back to the original discussion since you are doing those small rallies…why not a 500. Bit more money but so much better than 450
@@mototrailz main reason is because I prefer a slightly more playful engine, price wise they’re similar enough to where that was not a factor. Also, if I ever do decide to do some fim stuff, it will make life easier with classes. But mainly, I preferred the engine. Personal preference mostly
as a ktm user, husky and gas gas i have to say that they break just way too much, the clutch blows up, the engine tends to eat the valves and the chain for the valves needs frecuent manteninence, they are fast and can get anything done, but in terms of reliability i'll rather stick with a honda or a sherco even (they also break down but its usually crankshaft)
Really enjoy your videos ! I built a rally FE501 recently, but I’m in Australia so the open country makes the extra cc’s valid. Cheers
Sounds like a sweet build!
Keep up the great work! Got myself a 2021 FE450 as a first bike (second really, the first one fell victim to some asshole with a cordless angle grinder) and present to myself heading into my 50's. All my friends thought I was completely off my rocker and that impression just got worse when I sank almost as much again into it to kit it out as a long range rally bike.
I've yet to do a single stage of actual rally, but as a consolation prize the Swedish TET is 2841km of mostly gravel road so I get my go-fast kicks there instead. For now.
Are the EU models filled with emissions extras as well or unrestricted?
You deserve a lot more subs! I really enjoy your videos. Looking forward to the next one
Cheers!
Nice video! Makes perfect sense to choose the 2024 450 for your purposes. When I choose the 2024 350 last September as I first dirt bike, I did it because It is all-round machine and it turn out to be exactly what I was expecting. These 2024 KTM enduro bikes are really good. Watch out for these custom clutch levers - I burned my clutch at 25 hour, because of one of these with the mechanical advantage.
The 350 is sweet too. I mean, all 24 KTM dirt bikes look pretty good in my opinion.
My last KTM dirt bike was a 2014 350 excf. It was an awesome bike but missed a touch of low down snap and excitement that I missed from my previous Honda CRF450X and WR450.
I think if I got another one it would be the 450 or 501
Really hoping to see the new Rade garage aux tank on your 450 build. Big step forward in the dual sport world.
I don’t think I’ll have a use for that tank, I’m keeping it simple. You’ll see in the next video exactly how this bike is set up, that video will cover the fuel situation too.
Grande Hugo, ci dai del gran gas!😛
Sarà mica quel completino S3?! 🎉
guys i work as an delivery guy food , every day 130km working i thinking to buy 450\500 and make it super moto , the only thing that make me over thinking is the treatments and parts , plz let me know what you thinking about that , i just love super moto and [low weight and maximum power] today i work with scooter 125 and so boring but and least very Cheap expenses
What tank did you get for your 2024 did you have to modify anything for fitment?
It's an Acerbis, a 12l one. Check out the video that came after this, it has more details. But long story short, no, no mods were needed.
Yeah, but the 450 steers sooo well from the rear!!! 🥰
Never saw myself riding one and had really bad buyers remorse for the first 3 rides.. then I learned how to ride it.. from the rear. Adore it now.
Nobody who knows anything wants to ride a Honda 😂
PDS kicks ass. Nothing wrong with it if you have enough brains to set the sag. Ask the next dude who hates it and he won't even have the first clue how suspension even works. Somehow he's better than PDS that's won oodles of championships on every continent for decades and needs only a $30 heim joint for maint every 3 years.. the same time frame that claps out 3 entire Japanese chassis.
Great video, as always!
Cheers!
Very interesting video...cheers. When it comes to reliability and longevity, are there differences between the 450EXC-F vs 500EXC-F?
From what I know, there shouldn’t be much difference between the 2. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it’s basically the same engine at its core
I'd imagine that the 500s are slightly more reliable. The engines are actually identical aside from the stroke length, so the 450 revs quicker and higher, whereas the 500 has more torque. If I'm not mistaken, the 500 also has a slightly wider range gearbox, but other than that, the bikes are really identical. I think this video gets it right, the 450 is better at higher revs and ridden faster, and the 500 is more of a multi-purpose machine. In many ways I wish I'd bought a 500 exc rather than a 450 because I have no intention to race, but they're both great bikes
@@HartyBiker , cheers for your feedback, mate.
would you consider a 350 for rally?
Yeah, why not. Especially for European rallies, if I needed a more versatile bike, a 350 would be up there.
Well there might be some help for this soon at least the fatigue part. 😊
The QS thing already got accounted for not now but soon
Only complaint with mine is I have lost a kick stand twice now on the trails, both time using the kick stand bungee!
F, stands for Fullcross?
F stands for Four-Stroke
Nothing less than a full cross will do :)))
I’ve been happy with a 350 for years, now on the market for a new bike I’m very undecided and thinking about the 450 (for curiosity and reasons not dissimilar from yours). I’ve all but discarded the 500, feels heavy(ier), vibrates a lot, etc. So probably a toss up between husky 350/450 (with brembo brakes), just because I like the plastics better…
Because of your videos I bought myself a "Hardenduro". Nothing new... for me, as a total noob not really an option... But I got a Husaberg FE 350 from 2013. I sadly couldn't ride it until now... but I hope if will be fun :D
I hope it treats you well!
I like it that i found this video.I am considering buying a 450
Good pricing v 350
Arm ripping power (if required)
Less gear changes😀
Now let us see your rally build of this bike :D
Great video!
I can’t stand KTM because everyone has one. I have two for the exact reason you do 😂 I wish more people bought Beta et al and the Japanese would step up
It’s hard to avoid the Austrians these days ...
Be curious to hear your comparison of this bike w the new 450 XCF-W.
Isn't that USA only? Because... I'm nowhere near the USA, so probably won't happen too soon :)
Nobody thinks it is a useless bike.
watch your tongue !!! love the 450s!!!!
i know numbers dont matter much, but after seeing your channel i thought you have 752k subs
clearly you deserve more subscribers
Haha yeah, we’ll get there
Thats what she said
Could not agree more... since 2005, again in 2009, and 2014 :)
I bet if you blindfolded me and made me ride a bike, I think I would be in the ECU. LOL! Good vid man!
KRANKiT does not officially encourage these stunts to be performed at home :))
@@KRANKiT 🤣🤣
man is this the actual channel or a backup channel stealing videos cus these videos are way too high quality for 9k subs wtf.
Haha it’s the actual one :))
@@KRANKiT good lord it's only a matter of time then. keep up the quality content and you're undeniable.
Great choice I love my 450 👍
After watching your video, I changed my mind. I also plan to buy a 450EXC instead of a 1290ADV. Although the 1290 can take me far away, I feel that the 450 will bring me more happiness. Moreover, China requires that 1290 vehicles must be scrapped after 13 years, but the 450 does not. Hahahahaha Thank you.
Maybe a video for Bajaj
Sooo, because yout husqy was unreliable… you bought a KTM? Yo do know they are all owned by the same parent company (KTM) yes? 😂 Awesome video nonetheless!
Well, it’s complicated :)))
❤ 450 👍👍👍
That lay down before the corner was so fake. Its ok I like fake crashes too. Thanks for trying though.
I wish it was :)) but it was so slippery I could barely stand on 2 feet holding the camera
It was fake indeed
ktm rulez!
Nice casing of the jumps mate
Ran out of budget for the rider
Shut up and just ride......
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