I love how The Burning Shores shed some light on how people forged their own opinions on Enduring Victory and Zero Dawn as a whole, it always seemed kinda weird to me that everyone went to the frontlines to fight for a quote on quote 'all saving superweapon' without getting any additional info on the matter
Yes, the context is very helpful. But honestly, I'm not surprised that so many are coming out to fight. There must have come a time when people realized something was wrong and it started with huge, global casualties. Then, when it becomes known that a superweapon is being worked on - a kind of second Manhattan Project - that motivates people. They join in, thinking they can save themselves and their loved ones. If they had been told the truth, most would probably have given up without a fight.
I can honestly say that in all my years of gaming (close to 30 years now), have I ever felt so emotionally invested in a story. HZD is absolutely brilliant and hits so close to home. 😢❤
Whenever Enduring Victory comes up I always remember this quote from Herres: “My only lasting achievement was the extinction of life on Earth. And my one redeeming act - if any - was to delay that extinction by days or weeks by throwing more death at it.” The fact he’ll never know that what he did ensured Zero Dawn’s success is quite sad. It also makes me wonder about others serving in the military that found out the truth and how they were treated by ZD staff if they weren’t as cooperative as Lillian was
In the end, no one found out that Zero Dawn actually worked. Even if contact with Elysium had not been broken, it took 60 years to find the deactivation codes. As a European, I also find it a pity that only the US military is mentioned here. After all, people all over the world joined Enduring Victory and the leadership of other countries must also have been involved. Besides, no one needs to have a guilty conscience about sending people to their deaths when they know that everyone will die anyway. The truth behind Zero Dawn may be kept relatively well secret if everyone thinks it will be a weapons development or the possibility to generate the codes.
@@MaryThorensenthey had no way of knowing it would succeed. they took a massive chance. it worked, but there was always a sliver of doubt. and while life was saved, Zero Dawn wasn’t entirely successful thanks to Ted deleting APOLLO.
I love how, with each recording we find, she becomes more and more skeptical and willing to expose everything. But then after one conversation with Elisabet she completely changes her mind
These pics just make me wish I could have a small segment in game where we play as various ppl during enduring victory Like we start as ground foot soldiers then air support then a scientist in zero dawn Maybe even a whistleblower And so on until Gaia goes online It would be so cool
It would be an awesome game but also very depressing because it is a fight you can not win. at least not for yourself. the end will always be that humanity is destroyed and you are dead.
@@IndigoStarI disagree. Halo Reach was a game where you knew Reach would fall in the end. It was a bit of a suprise to have to sacrifice yourself at the end so the Pillar could escape to start Halo CE, but it wasn't depressing. A ZD prequel could be written to be depressing, but it doesn't necessarily have to be. Especially since we know Gaia is completed
@@eeHMFICIMHO the best way to not make it too depressing is making the last part of the game from the point of the Lillian Barnett. In the end while normal soldiers maybe only know despairs and such, she's the only one outside direct contact with ZD to know the true purpose of Enduring Victory. it could just end when she just barely able to deactivate the broadcast, then the game will just then speed forward to the last part of the Enduring Victory battle at the last and final stronghold of the military, but everytime the soldier we control die, the game will switch the perspective to the scientist hurrying up the final preparation to start the GAIA system, and with every major progress the scientist achieve, we will then go back to other soldier in the stronghold. This will going back and forth several times, and as the remaining soldiers down to one digit count, GAIA system finally functional, giving the players relief that in the end, after knowing ZD, that there is still hope in the future and all the depressing action they had to do from the beginning isn't all for nothing. (Tbf I would apperciate if when they DO actually made this game, everytime the soldier we control die, they would display their name and year born/die, kinda like with the Battlefield 1 introduction, it really gives the impact and realization regarding the war). That last part of the ending will make it more clear how the sacrifice of each person gives the scientist some more time, some more seconds, to be able to finish ZD.
Definitely the best original story to hit a videogame in at least the last decade. Finally understanding what the project was in the first game and why we did it was profoundly human and something that I hope our society is mature enough to do should the need one day arise. There is nothing more noble than sacrificing yourself so that others may live.
Horizon's Vantage collectibles are some of my favorite collectibles in any game, perhaps the only collectibles I go out of my way to go find. They're incredibly haunting and create a very sobering piece of lore building.
I love how well every operation was written out, to Make sure it not only stayed accurate to the timeline, but also that you could feel any minor overlap and transition as smoothly as possible.
When Horizon 3 comes out, i would love for Gurella Games to go back to their roots for a bit and do a Killzone esque FPS of the final days of Enduring Victory. Something like Halo Reach, where you know everyone is going to die already, but it's experiancing the journey to get there.
I loved the Aerial Captures. Forbidden West focused less on the Faro Plague and Enduring Victory (which is completely fair, given the respective stories in ZD and FW), but these collectibles were a brutal reminder of the world's horrifying past. Also, Barnett's story gave me Bashar Mati levels of feels. That last datapoint... 😢 Great video as always!!
Enduring victory was just awful but it does remind me of a saying I heard in a war movie, it was something about wasting lives or spending it. Every last one who participated in this operation were lives well spent, in the end life did find a way a big middle finger to extinction.
I’ve literally only just started Burning Shores so I’m not allowing myself to watch any of your recent videos until I’ve completed it; I’m just leaving a comment so the algorithm looks kindly on your amazing channel lol
Even more tragic when you really think about how it was not just "so many" but (very nearly) 100% of humanity at the time save for an extremely select few in those handful or so bunkers across the world and of course Far Zenith. Such fascinating story telling.
@BattlestarDamocles I haven't played Forbidden West yet, but from what I've seen in Zero Dawn, I think in the end he cared. The fact that he erased Apollo, as misguided as that was, so the future generations wouldn't make the same mistakes he did, tells me that he did care.
I just wanted to thank you for doing these and I hope that you are able to continue to do so. Being a die-hard fan of the Horizon series I have learned so much about the series from both this UA-cam channel and the graphic novels that have been released. There have been many times that I thought that something was a certain way even and you explained it in a whole different light and it opened up things in a whole different way
@RandomSideQuest I wait for these. I constantly go back and rewatch them going all the way back to Horizon zero Dawn. The background story knowledge I have learned has made the games story behind it even better to me.... and you're not a bad narrator
I'm trying to get to the feeling and have humanity been using Nuclear missiles and EMPs to stop them. EMPs are the only weapons that can actually fry their systems and make them become immobilized for hours And Nukes are the only weapons that can wipe them all out in one blast.
They used emps but the faro robots also used emps to fry thier no automated machinery, it was tit for tat. The robots replication rate was way too high and their quantity was also too high that nukes wouldn't be as effective. Nukes would speed up the destruction of the biosphere giving humanity even less time then they had so be had the contain nuke use. Had they caught the faro plague early on, it would've been worth it but when they found out, it was extinction one way or the other and the biosphere being rebuilt would have to be done regardless so project zero Dawn was given priority. If they had usen all the nuke and the faro plague would've still won but even faster, not giving enough time for zero dawn and a future
I still don't have a PS5, and now my PS4 is DoA. All I can do is wait for a PC release, or find a PS5 with a disk drive. Edit: PS5 w/Disk Drive acquired.
@@moneybilla Yes. Partly because I tend to hold on to my consoles, but MOSTLY because all my saves were on the internal drive instead of the external drive that held all my games. 👿
The thing about horizon's story is that it's not far from really happening. That is why it is so good. All it would take is a crazy rich egomaniac and an AI advanced enough for it all to become a reality. I just hope that the engineers who are to work on these projects in the future, if it comes to that, are sensible enough to install some kind of backdoor or failsafe.
I love your videos! Thank you so much for the summary of the lore. 🤗 If everyone had been told the truth about Zero Dawn, many would not have fought. Knowing that it was all for "nothing" anyway would have led to demoralization. That's why the propaganda for Enduring Victory was necessary. We learned in HZD that people refused to work on Zero Dawn and chose suicide instead. They chose the quick end rather than fight for the future of humanity. Lillian Barnett understood and chose a future for life. No movie, book, or video game has left me brooding the way Horizon does. I wonder what I would have done and might I even live to see such a similar scenario? In 2065, I would be 80... doable and terrifying. This shows how great the storytelling is and I would so love to know more. When was the point at which people realized that it was not a small incident now, but a global crisis of apocalyptic proportions? There was still obvious fighting going on, so the planet was basically dead. These people had to know what it was all about. At some point, everyone sees that there is no chance to win. So far, all we know is that the organization ran through the U.S. military and that Herres was responsible for Enduring Victory. Yes, the US video game market is the most important one and so again everything refers to the USA. Sure, but the game is so diverse and open, I would have liked to know a bit more about the rest of the world. It is also probable that there were other bunker facilities. In addition, other countries must have been looking for solutions or must have been privy to the operation. Especially since the facilities for Eleuthia were built all over the world. Interestingly, Eleuthia-1 is not in the US, but in China, and a data point from HZD said, they first gained experience with zygotes. So, was Eleuthia-9 actually the last one after they gained the most experience? 🧐
Had the sound low when listening to some other videos, then put on yours. Thought there was no sound at first, then raised it. You have very low sounds compared to many others here on UA-cam. Great video as always, but can you maybe look at raising the sound levels for future videos?😮
It could be the nano-bot things that consume living things (Biomass) to make fuel, probably came from the Horus since it’s probably damaged so it sent out the nano bots to find biomass in order to heal or make more robots. All Faro robots were equipped with Biomass conversion systems.
The First picture is inaccurate. because the vehicles are wrong there is an M1A2 Abrams and AH-64D and Lav i think and the picture in the game is different also the second picture too inaccurate because there again M1A2 Abrahams. I am disappointed from the artist doing this simple mistakes.
It seems the future of combat in that universe turned into Robots killing Robots which given the Swam's hacking ability are a massive liability. They had to dig up whatever they had left and given how they've likely been fighting on other continents the good stuff would be getting extremely rare. I wouldn't be surprised if they grabbed a Sherman from a tank museum and threw it onto the frontlines if it gave them a chance to take one out.
@jack727dave5 I agree with you but there isn't explained from any data log or the environment but it can be buried underground after so many years. But in the wiki there is a wrong picture that isn't in the game.
Ah yes, the Burning Shores which I cannot get because it is supposedly too demanding for my PS4 Pro. Tried buying a PS5, was lucky to just get my money back in the end.
Since they so adamant on VR and forbidden west already has one. I wouldn’t mind seeing a vr operation enduring victory or sum. Honestly it would probably be be traumatizing for VR🤣💀just give us a lil mini mission or sum.
If I had been in Lillian Barnett's place I would have told Sobek and those men that nothing they had said had changed my mind in the slightest. That I was just going to sit there and let the truth be broadcast. You see I believe fervently that morality is infinitely more important then survival. And I find what Enduring Victory did, the lies and the cover ups, unacceptable and inexcusable. Immoral action should never be taken even if they are necessary. The words I live by are "For every reason there is to lie, there is a better reason to tell the truth." and “Let justice be done, though the world may perish." I imagine Sobeck and those men would have been horrified by my words. But I would have told then they had just better get a move on with Zero Dawn. Because if the price of truth in this case was jeopardizing the future of all Earthly life... then so be it.
So you would a take a page from teds book and doom humanity because you can't put your ego aside to see the bigger picture. Enduring victory needed to be done so all living things could live on.
This has nothing to do with ego, or the bigger picture or what is practical. It is about what is true. And truth is not always beneficial, it can sweep away governments, patriotism, religions, beliefs, hope, happiness and ruin our lives. But I believe we must value it above all those other things. I hate this idea that if survival is on the line we should and must throw away our morality to preserve it. If we do the immoral to save the world, what kind of world would we be living in? If being moral cost us our survival them we should do no less then go to our deaths. My statement is not about ego, it is doing what is morally right no matter what practical gains we get from doing otherwise. So it's exactly the opposite of Ted Faro's book. Of course I know Enduring Victory created false hope to to buy crucial time for Zero Dawn. But if being moral and truthful meant jeopardizing the future of all Earthly life then SO BE IT! @@helix19667
@@shitbeausaysofficial It is not about my truth but THE truth. And there is perhaps no more worse or dangerous philosophy then "the ends justifys the means", that kind of thinking should always be rejected.
For the record I absolutely see the bigger picture, it just doesn't change my mind. I just refuse to allow something I feel is morally wrong for it. And if that means jeopardizing Zero Dawn then so be it. @@helix19667
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I love how The Burning Shores shed some light on how people forged their own opinions on Enduring Victory and Zero Dawn as a whole, it always seemed kinda weird to me that everyone went to the frontlines to fight for a quote on quote 'all saving superweapon' without getting any additional info on the matter
Yes, the context is very helpful. But honestly, I'm not surprised that so many are coming out to fight. There must have come a time when people realized something was wrong and it started with huge, global casualties. Then, when it becomes known that a superweapon is being worked on - a kind of second Manhattan Project - that motivates people. They join in, thinking they can save themselves and their loved ones. If they had been told the truth, most would probably have given up without a fight.
I can honestly say that in all my years of gaming (close to 30 years now), have I ever felt so emotionally invested in a story. HZD is absolutely brilliant and hits so close to home. 😢❤
Whenever Enduring Victory comes up I always remember this quote from Herres:
“My only lasting achievement was the extinction of life on Earth. And my one redeeming act - if any - was to delay that extinction by days or weeks by throwing more death at it.”
The fact he’ll never know that what he did ensured Zero Dawn’s success is quite sad.
It also makes me wonder about others serving in the military that found out the truth and how they were treated by ZD staff if they weren’t as cooperative as Lillian was
In the end, no one found out that Zero Dawn actually worked. Even if contact with Elysium had not been broken, it took 60 years to find the deactivation codes.
As a European, I also find it a pity that only the US military is mentioned here. After all, people all over the world joined Enduring Victory and the leadership of other countries must also have been involved. Besides, no one needs to have a guilty conscience about sending people to their deaths when they know that everyone will die anyway.
The truth behind Zero Dawn may be kept relatively well secret if everyone thinks it will be a weapons development or the possibility to generate the codes.
Why do you think he will never know? You mean he didn’t live till ZD was activated, but surely understood it was the only way..
@@MaryThorensenthey had no way of knowing it would succeed. they took a massive chance. it worked, but there was always a sliver of doubt. and while life was saved, Zero Dawn wasn’t entirely successful thanks to Ted deleting APOLLO.
I love how, with each recording we find, she becomes more and more skeptical and willing to expose everything. But then after one conversation with Elisabet she completely changes her mind
These pics just make me wish I could have a small segment in game where we play as various ppl during enduring victory
Like we start as ground foot soldiers then air support then a scientist in zero dawn
Maybe even a whistleblower
And so on until Gaia goes online
It would be so cool
It would be an awesome game but also very depressing because it is a fight you can not win. at least not for yourself. the end will always be that humanity is destroyed and you are dead.
@@IndigoStarI disagree. Halo Reach was a game where you knew Reach would fall in the end. It was a bit of a suprise to have to sacrifice yourself at the end so the Pillar could escape to start Halo CE, but it wasn't depressing. A ZD prequel could be written to be depressing, but it doesn't necessarily have to be. Especially since we know Gaia is completed
@@eeHMFICIMHO the best way to not make it too depressing is making the last part of the game from the point of the Lillian Barnett. In the end while normal soldiers maybe only know despairs and such, she's the only one outside direct contact with ZD to know the true purpose of Enduring Victory. it could just end when she just barely able to deactivate the broadcast, then the game will just then speed forward to the last part of the Enduring Victory battle at the last and final stronghold of the military, but everytime the soldier we control die, the game will switch the perspective to the scientist hurrying up the final preparation to start the GAIA system, and with every major progress the scientist achieve, we will then go back to other soldier in the stronghold. This will going back and forth several times, and as the remaining soldiers down to one digit count, GAIA system finally functional, giving the players relief that in the end, after knowing ZD, that there is still hope in the future and all the depressing action they had to do from the beginning isn't all for nothing. (Tbf I would apperciate if when they DO actually made this game, everytime the soldier we control die, they would display their name and year born/die, kinda like with the Battlefield 1 introduction, it really gives the impact and realization regarding the war). That last part of the ending will make it more clear how the sacrifice of each person gives the scientist some more time, some more seconds, to be able to finish ZD.
I totally agree. A Halo Reach type game about Enduring Victory would be amazing
An fps in enduring victory would have been amazing and Guerilla already proved with the Killzone games they make great fps
Definitely the best original story to hit a videogame in at least the last decade. Finally understanding what the project was in the first game and why we did it was profoundly human and something that I hope our society is mature enough to do should the need one day arise. There is nothing more noble than sacrificing yourself so that others may live.
Horizon's Vantage collectibles are some of my favorite collectibles in any game, perhaps the only collectibles I go out of my way to go find. They're incredibly haunting and create a very sobering piece of lore building.
I love how well every operation was written out, to Make sure it not only stayed accurate to the timeline, but also that you could feel any minor overlap and transition as smoothly as possible.
Bro I desperately want a prequel for the Enduring Victory
When Horizon 3 comes out, i would love for Gurella Games to go back to their roots for a bit and do a Killzone esque FPS of the final days of Enduring Victory. Something like Halo Reach, where you know everyone is going to die already, but it's experiancing the journey to get there.
Horizon Enduring Victory would be a fun little game.
Day Zero Enduring Victory @@renriquez1994
@@renriquez1994 "Horrizon...Before Dawn."
I loved the Aerial Captures. Forbidden West focused less on the Faro Plague and Enduring Victory (which is completely fair, given the respective stories in ZD and FW), but these collectibles were a brutal reminder of the world's horrifying past. Also, Barnett's story gave me Bashar Mati levels of feels. That last datapoint... 😢 Great video as always!!
Thanks Honest 😁
Enduring victory was just awful but it does remind me of a saying I heard in a war movie, it was something about wasting lives or spending it. Every last one who participated in this operation were lives well spent, in the end life did find a way a big middle finger to extinction.
Me: Best thing we can do is that Operation Enduring Victory never happens again.
More like the Faro Plague. Operation: Enduring Victory was a symptom of the end of the world. Not its cause.
Loved the aerial captures, amazing lore and the art design of LA being destroyed is amazing. I love it.
I’ve literally only just started Burning Shores so I’m not allowing myself to watch any of your recent videos until I’ve completed it; I’m just leaving a comment so the algorithm looks kindly on your amazing channel lol
Let's go! I loved these litle bits of lore around EV in thr burning shores.
Having such a detailed story behind a little side activity shoes the dedication and attention to detail of guerrilla!
Great video as always!
As expected, this was great! 😁Great work as always RSQ 👍🏼
Thanks Arktix 😁
this is so good dude. amazing how you're able to piece all this information together and really bring these stories to life. super well done! 🙌
Thanks Chaz! Glad you enjoyed it 😁
Would love a full video on all the details we have regarding battles during enduring victory
Or a movie made by the games devs
Wow, it is really tragic that so many had to die
Enduring Victory, always a tough topic...
Faro didn't care.
Even more tragic when you really think about how it was not just "so many" but (very nearly) 100% of humanity at the time save for an extremely select few in those handful or so bunkers across the world and of course Far Zenith. Such fascinating story telling.
@BattlestarDamocles I haven't played Forbidden West yet, but from what I've seen in Zero Dawn, I think in the end he cared. The fact that he erased Apollo, as misguided as that was, so the future generations wouldn't make the same mistakes he did, tells me that he did care.
@@matics898 doesn’t discount the fact he is scum
"but the truth is, we are fighting for the future. Even if that future's not for us." hit so hard...
I just wanted to thank you for doing these and I hope that you are able to continue to do so. Being a die-hard fan of the Horizon series I have learned so much about the series from both this UA-cam channel and the graphic novels that have been released.
There have been many times that I thought that something was a certain way even and you explained it in a whole different light and it opened up things in a whole different way
That's very kind of you to say, glad you enjoy them 😁
@RandomSideQuest I wait for these. I constantly go back and rewatch them going all the way back to Horizon zero Dawn. The background story knowledge I have learned has made the games story behind it even better to me.... and you're not a bad narrator
I miss these two masterpieces. I already beat HZD, Frozen Wilds, HFW and Burning Shores. I'm really considering starting over.
Another example of brilliant story telling by Guerrilla. Thanks for reminding me of this storyline.
This perspective of the world is really something special, thanks for covering it and the great visuals
Another phenomenal narration video my fellow banuk @RandomSideQuest
I'm trying to get to the feeling and have humanity been using Nuclear missiles and EMPs to stop them.
EMPs are the only weapons that can actually fry their systems and make them become immobilized for hours
And Nukes are the only weapons that can wipe them all out in one blast.
They used emps but the faro robots also used emps to fry thier no automated machinery, it was tit for tat.
The robots replication rate was way too high and their quantity was also too high that nukes wouldn't be as effective. Nukes would speed up the destruction of the biosphere giving humanity even less time then they had so be had the contain nuke use. Had they caught the faro plague early on, it would've been worth it but when they found out, it was extinction one way or the other and the biosphere being rebuilt would have to be done regardless so project zero Dawn was given priority.
If they had usen all the nuke and the faro plague would've still won but even faster, not giving enough time for zero dawn and a future
Do you do any playthrough videos, I think it would be cool to see you play call of the mountain
Aerial Captures are a type of Collectable found in Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores.
Lovely as always.... Can't wait for the next video
Thanks Sweets 😁
Welcome. I'm a fan of your work! It's just a shame that living in France I can't be there for most of the lives....😔@@RandomSideQuest
I still don't have a PS5, and now my PS4 is DoA. All I can do is wait for a PC release, or find a PS5 with a disk drive.
Edit: PS5 w/Disk Drive acquired.
You still got the dead ps4?
@@moneybilla Yes. Partly because I tend to hold on to my consoles, but MOSTLY because all my saves were on the internal drive instead of the external drive that held all my games. 👿
Great video RSQ very interesting and informative keep it up
Thank you! It was the member community that suggested it 👍👍
I absolutely love the aerial captures
The thing about horizon's story is that it's not far from really happening. That is why it is so good. All it would take is a crazy rich egomaniac and an AI advanced enough for it all to become a reality. I just hope that the engineers who are to work on these projects in the future, if it comes to that, are sensible enough to install some kind of backdoor or failsafe.
I love your videos! Thank you so much for the summary of the lore. 🤗
If everyone had been told the truth about Zero Dawn, many would not have fought. Knowing that it was all for "nothing" anyway would have led to demoralization. That's why the propaganda for Enduring Victory was necessary. We learned in HZD that people refused to work on Zero Dawn and chose suicide instead. They chose the quick end rather than fight for the future of humanity. Lillian Barnett understood and chose a future for life.
No movie, book, or video game has left me brooding the way Horizon does. I wonder what I would have done and might I even live to see such a similar scenario? In 2065, I would be 80... doable and terrifying. This shows how great the storytelling is and I would so love to know more. When was the point at which people realized that it was not a small incident now, but a global crisis of apocalyptic proportions? There was still obvious fighting going on, so the planet was basically dead. These people had to know what it was all about. At some point, everyone sees that there is no chance to win.
So far, all we know is that the organization ran through the U.S. military and that Herres was responsible for Enduring Victory. Yes, the US video game market is the most important one and so again everything refers to the USA. Sure, but the game is so diverse and open, I would have liked to know a bit more about the rest of the world. It is also probable that there were other bunker facilities. In addition, other countries must have been looking for solutions or must have been privy to the operation. Especially since the facilities for Eleuthia were built all over the world. Interestingly, Eleuthia-1 is not in the US, but in China, and a data point from HZD said, they first gained experience with zygotes. So, was Eleuthia-9 actually the last one after they gained the most experience? 🧐
Never knew the horus had a big ol death lazer on its head
Had the sound low when listening to some other videos, then put on yours. Thought there was no sound at first, then raised it. You have very low sounds compared to many others here on UA-cam. Great video as always, but can you maybe look at raising the sound levels for future videos?😮
hi love your vids keep making them 😊😊
Thank you 🙏
New RSQ video 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
The word pier. Peer ring any bells 😁.
His voice is so beautiful!
Does anybody know what the small swarms in the Air are? They Look like they are a sort of anti Air
It could be the nano-bot things that consume living things (Biomass) to make fuel, probably came from the Horus since it’s probably damaged so it sent out the nano bots to find biomass in order to heal or make more robots. All Faro robots were equipped with Biomass conversion systems.
Hello! Where did you get those pictures from operation enduring victory from?
Burning shores dlc aerial capture
The First picture is inaccurate. because the vehicles are wrong there is an M1A2 Abrams and AH-64D and Lav i think and the picture in the game is different also the second picture too inaccurate because there again M1A2 Abrahams. I am disappointed from the artist doing this simple mistakes.
It seems the future of combat in that universe turned into Robots killing Robots which given the Swam's hacking ability are a massive liability. They had to dig up whatever they had left and given how they've likely been fighting on other continents the good stuff would be getting extremely rare. I wouldn't be surprised if they grabbed a Sherman from a tank museum and threw it onto the frontlines if it gave them a chance to take one out.
@jack727dave5 I agree with you but there isn't explained from any data log or the environment but it can be buried underground after so many years. But in the wiki there is a wrong picture that isn't in the game.
I didn't particularly enjoy the gameplay of the aerial captures but I appreciated the lore and stories nonetheless
Ah yes, the Burning Shores which I cannot get because it is supposedly too demanding for my PS4 Pro. Tried buying a PS5, was lucky to just get my money back in the end.
It's in stock everywhere now
Since they so adamant on VR and forbidden west already has one. I wouldn’t mind seeing a vr operation enduring victory or sum. Honestly it would probably be be traumatizing for VR🤣💀just give us a lil mini mission or sum.
Your voice is really quiet btw
I'll keep that in mind for the future 👍
If I had been in Lillian Barnett's place I would have told Sobek and those men that nothing they had said had changed my mind in the slightest. That I was just going to sit there and let the truth be broadcast. You see I believe fervently that morality is infinitely more important then survival. And I find what Enduring Victory did, the lies and the cover ups, unacceptable and inexcusable. Immoral action should never be taken even if they are necessary. The words I live by are "For every reason there is to lie, there is a better reason to tell the truth." and “Let justice be done, though the world may perish."
I imagine Sobeck and those men would have been horrified by my words. But I would have told then they had just better get a move on with Zero Dawn. Because if the price of truth in this case was jeopardizing the future of all Earthly life... then so be it.
So you would a take a page from teds book and doom humanity because you can't put your ego aside to see the bigger picture. Enduring victory needed to be done so all living things could live on.
This has nothing to do with ego, or the bigger picture or what is practical. It is about what is true. And truth is not always beneficial, it can sweep away governments, patriotism, religions, beliefs, hope, happiness and ruin our lives. But I believe we must value it above all those other things.
I hate this idea that if survival is on the line we should and must throw away our morality to preserve it. If we do the immoral to save the world, what kind of world would we be living in?
If being moral cost us our survival them we should do no less then go to our deaths.
My statement is not about ego, it is doing what is morally right no matter what practical gains we get from doing otherwise. So it's exactly the opposite of Ted Faro's book.
Of course I know Enduring Victory created false hope to to buy crucial time for Zero Dawn. But if being moral and truthful meant jeopardizing the future of all Earthly life then SO BE IT! @@helix19667
If your truth means extinction of a planet, your truth is wrong. At a certain point, the ends DO justify the means.
@@shitbeausaysofficial It is not about my truth but THE truth. And there is perhaps no more worse or dangerous philosophy then "the ends justifys the means", that kind of thinking should always be rejected.
For the record I absolutely see the bigger picture, it just doesn't change my mind. I just refuse to allow something I feel is morally wrong for it. And if that means jeopardizing Zero Dawn then so be it. @@helix19667