What are Roguelikes?

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  • An exploration on the history of the genre of Roguelikes, starting with Rogue in 1980, going on to modern day Roguelikes.
    ♫♫♫ (in order of appearance)
    Boards of Canada - Sixtyniner
    Arata Iiyoshi - Fogbound Lake
    Eirik Suhrke - Jungle Music 3
    Ridiculon - Genesis 13 : 37 (Retro Beats)
    zircon - Eternal Verdant Waltz (Dungeon Theme 5)
    Joar Renolen - the Janky Tune
    Further Reading
    Definition of a Traditional Roguelike: tinyurl.com/y97s9c9d
    Berlin Interpretation: tinyurl.com/kdfmxt9
    Torrent of 700+ Roguelikes: tinyurl.com/y76vnrmv
    RogueBasin: roguebasin.com/index.php?title...
    Roguelikes FAQ: pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
    What to Play: pastebin.com/Xev9RfwL
    Glenn Wichman's website: tinyurl.com/y93jm9z3
    Temple of the Roguelike: tinyurl.com/y8la84ma
    History of Rogue: tinyurl.com/ya2zbzgs
    Roguelikes and the Modular Genres: tinyurl.com/y8h9thkf
    Spelunky Noclip Documentary: tinyurl.com/ybxtrrot
    Roguelike Returns - How to revive a Genre: tinyurl.com/ndj5jbo
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 67

  • @ignotumperignotius630
    @ignotumperignotius630 3 роки тому +5

    great video, there's something incredibly addictive about rogue-likes

  • @zdavisgenki243
    @zdavisgenki243 5 років тому +11

    Amazing video! You deserve more views! Would love to see more from you :)

  • @MarioVelezBThinkin
    @MarioVelezBThinkin 2 роки тому

    My man. My man you are a gem in a coal mine. I can't believe this is the first video I clicked on after my search. Thank you for so many links and that massive list of roguelikes.

  • @plexureiscool
    @plexureiscool 3 роки тому

    you def deserve more views, this is top notch stuff!! subscribed

  • @GreyBeardGamingYT
    @GreyBeardGamingYT 3 роки тому

    Very informative video thanks so much this is exactly what I was looking for!!

  • @ShiningCrimzon
    @ShiningCrimzon 2 роки тому

    I've known roguelikes since I was 5 watching my sister playing Castle of the Winds. Seeing these games and playing Jupiter Hell recently sort of triggered a sense of nostalgia maybe? For something I wasn't even aware I've known since way back

  • @NeverKnowsBest
    @NeverKnowsBest 5 років тому +5

    This video was in my recommend and I don't think I've ever seen another video with such a low view count be recommended to me by youtube's algorithms. Anyway good video. It was informative and well made, and you covered the topic well.

  • @byteyourownteeth
    @byteyourownteeth 5 років тому +2

    Quality stuff buddy!

  • @warmachine68
    @warmachine68 3 роки тому

    Agreed. This needs more views

  • @ChitChat
    @ChitChat 3 роки тому +1

    VR has its own Rogue-Lite in the title Until You Fall. Great sword combat.

  • @tristanclose5803
    @tristanclose5803 2 роки тому

    Liked and shared, great video.

  • @Jordan-ez2gn
    @Jordan-ez2gn 3 роки тому

    Thanks for that torrent dude!

  • @spaceniceguy
    @spaceniceguy 3 роки тому

    great video

  • @FelipeWalker2
    @FelipeWalker2 5 років тому +1

    Damn, what an AWESOME video. Grats man.

  • @verlandes1
    @verlandes1 4 роки тому

    Great video! I would add Brogue as a gateway to more traditional roguelikes!

  • @Phirestar
    @Phirestar 4 роки тому

    This is a nice informative video, and I’m glad UA-cam recommended to me. What interests me most is the fact that I’ve never heard anyone talk about the definition being cut down, as you mentioned. Everyone else still likes to reference the Berlin Interpretation, from what I’ve seen online.
    I recently got into roguelike with Tangledeep last July, after having played a few roguelites over the years, and I have to say that I think it did an outstanding job of bringing an older genre into a modern setting. While I probably won’t be able to get into a lot of the older titles, due to the fact that many feel quite confusing and a bit archaic in design, I am keeping an eye out for the new ones that follow in that same style as Tangledeep. It seems like Stoneshard will be the next game on that list, from the 18 hours I’ve invested; once it’s more developed, I see it being a real great game.

    • @gefjeff720
      @gefjeff720  4 роки тому

      You'd be surprised just how modern-feeling some of the older roguelikes are. A lot of them are updated to this day! If you can overcome the visuals they offer some very deep gameplay. Check out Cogmind or Cave of Qud if you want to acclimate yourself to the ASCII artstyle without jumping headfirst

  • @Sudegink
    @Sudegink 3 роки тому

    Quality content

  • @bearman_1826
    @bearman_1826 3 роки тому +1

    10:33 Very true. The entire genre is like an academics dream! XD

  • @ac-bp1ni
    @ac-bp1ni 3 роки тому +3

    What's the game at 7:25?

  • @Jordy2277
    @Jordy2277 4 роки тому +1

    I'd love to see more videos about Roguelikes. I love them.

  • @enrymion9681
    @enrymion9681 Рік тому

    Mystery Dungeon games are an interesting topic, in a way they're much more faithful to being like Rogue(down to some very specific things like how wall corners work) than most western roguelikes(Brogue being the only expection I'm aware of) which instead of looking at Rogue as it was seem to have been more concerned with what it was trying to be and fixed "issues" like having only strength attribute and no meaningful character creation.

  • @VJFranzK
    @VJFranzK 3 роки тому

    Of the non-standard rogue-lites "Noita" is my recent favorite! Also "Variables Tower Defense". Back to ancient Mac OS, I will mention "Dungeons of Doom".

  • @brittenogilvie8086
    @brittenogilvie8086 2 роки тому +1

    Love all these roguelike videos that mostly talk about roguelites.

  • @gravechest7392
    @gravechest7392 3 роки тому

    nice vid

  • @zotharr
    @zotharr 2 роки тому

    Its a nice video, strange, that it has only less than 10k views
    Im a fan of roguelite, though :)

  • @sorceproject
    @sorceproject 5 років тому +1

    Tangledeep has now been out of early-access for a while, it's a classic.

  • @kennethnorton4906
    @kennethnorton4906 5 років тому +4

    Wheres the next video?

  • @KilledByKangaroo
    @KilledByKangaroo 2 роки тому +2

    What about Toejam and Earl? Does that fall into any of the rogue categories?

  • @mariowario5945
    @mariowario5945 2 роки тому

    8:31 nice games

  • @epiphoney
    @epiphoney 2 роки тому

    Technically, that was a tile version of Rogue, not a curses version.

  • @Joovisplaystrash
    @Joovisplaystrash Рік тому

    HOW'D YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN PLAYING BOTH ISAAC AND FTL?!?!

  • @dant5349
    @dant5349 10 місяців тому

    What’s the game on screen at 7:22?

  • @Eikinkloster
    @Eikinkloster 2 роки тому

    What is the “brawler” at 6:30?

  • @CAVEDATA
    @CAVEDATA Рік тому

    Is your name a play on Grudjieff?

  • @Shadder2972
    @Shadder2972 Рік тому

    What are the name of the game that appear in 06:46 ?

  • @occularmalice
    @occularmalice 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and history. I wish there were overlays or a list of the games as a few of them zipped by quickly and I couldn't figure out what they were.

  • @1oneguythat
    @1oneguythat Рік тому

    Don't forget about dragon crystal for the Sega master system. A truly unforgiving roguelike that was developed by Sega themselves.

  • @dan9337
    @dan9337 3 роки тому

    What's the game showing starting @8:45 ? The one right after Sproggy

    • @gefjeff720
      @gefjeff720  3 роки тому

      Hacque, I believe!

    • @--i-am-root
      @--i-am-root 3 роки тому

      @@gefjeff720 Thanks. I couldn't tell how to spell it. I thought you were referring to the original Hack except that you grouped it in with modern traditional roguelikes.

  • @RyanGuitarVibes
    @RyanGuitarVibes 2 роки тому

    @7:55 what game is that :o

  • @hannacochrane5472
    @hannacochrane5472 5 років тому

    If I'm being honest I understand v little about this...but what a good quality video

  • @kennethnorton4906
    @kennethnorton4906 10 місяців тому

    Still watching this in 2023

  • @RyumaXtheXKing
    @RyumaXtheXKing 3 роки тому

    Roguelikes are games like Rogue, aka clones.
    What are the games shown in this video. I am especially interested in 8:46 and 10:44

    • @gefjeff720
      @gefjeff720  3 роки тому +1

      Haque and Gonner! Check them both out, Gonner is actually getting a sequel pretty soon too

  • @DriftyG
    @DriftyG 2 роки тому

    Great script, I feel you should slow down a little bit while reading it. It sounds more like your speed reading a script instead of talking to an audience. Good video though.

  • @SteppingWolf
    @SteppingWolf 3 роки тому

    Wow. There are a lot of games in this video that are not roguelikes.

  • @aFewBitsShort
    @aFewBitsShort 5 років тому +2

    ..and if you never want to play another RL again, start playing CDDA.

  • @-John-Doe-
    @-John-Doe- 5 років тому +8

    "Roguelike" games are _'becoming more popular'_ because people will call anything roguelike.
    Procedurally generate a map? Roguelike...

  • @ourosaquavaringas6061
    @ourosaquavaringas6061 3 роки тому +1

    I think the turn based requirement should also be removed.
    Roguelikes are any game with procedural generation, permadeath, and whatnot, whereas roguelite has moderate upgrades between runs, i.e hades/deadcells etc. Issac is a pure and true roguelike, same with games like noita.
    That seems the be the new definition used by many, I feel restricting "true" roguelikes to being turn based is archaic as the ascii graphics requirement of old.
    It can be simplified even further I say, if the only permanent upgrade between runs is the expanding of your own knowledge of the game and mechanics, then it is a rogueLIKE, and if there are other, actual upgrades, it is a rogueLITE, for example being able to start a run with a bit more gold, or extra health, or being able to filter down some of the randomized items, or giving you a higher chance to get one you like at the start.

    • @enrymion9681
      @enrymion9681 Рік тому +1

      Turn-based is one of the most important aspects of the definition.
      You can have a roguelike with no procedural generation lack of it doesn't meaningfully change the gameplay.
      Permadeath also doesn't make a roguelike often there's a setting to disable it and which setting you've selected can go entirely unnoticed.
      Games like Hades and Isaac would be better served by calling them arcade games.

  • @justinzhou4871
    @justinzhou4871 5 років тому +1

    So if it is not turn-based, it is not rogue-like according to the most recent definition?

    • @gefjeff720
      @gefjeff720  5 років тому +2

      Yeah, pretty much. Anything that'd be real-time would be categorized as a Rogue-Lite by the new definition

    • @joefadda578
      @joefadda578 4 роки тому +4

      If it's not a turn based, grid based strategy RPG with permadeath and procedural generation it's not a roguelike. That's not the "most recent definition" that's what makes a game play *"like rogue"* it's always been that way, and it's just that we had a bit of a flash in the pan with people calling anything a roguelike. That flash is dying out now though.

    • @joefadda578
      @joefadda578 4 роки тому +1

      @@gefjeff720 It's not a new definition, it's going back to the old one.

    • @fordprefect80
      @fordprefect80 4 роки тому +3

      @@joefadda578 So true. To hell with the new definition or popular definition. If it doesn't resemble Rogue its not a Rogue like period.

    • @cosmicsky2734
      @cosmicsky2734 Рік тому +1

      @@00O3O1B but it end up very confusing and that also not help anyone. its make the genre just mean anything which destroy the point of having a genre in the first place

  • @tyviz
    @tyviz 2 роки тому

    Gta5 is rouglike

  • @RPGFanGirl64
    @RPGFanGirl64 Рік тому +1

    I want more real roguelikes not "roguelikes" like binding of isaac

    • @gefjeff720
      @gefjeff720  Рік тому +1

      Check out Jupiter Hell, it's by the DoomRL team and is great

    • @RPGFanGirl64
      @RPGFanGirl64 Рік тому +1

      @@gefjeff720 sounds great already, thanks for the recommendation. I liked DoomRL a lot.

    • @RPGFanGirl64
      @RPGFanGirl64 Рік тому +1

      ​@@gefjeff720 by the way, your videos are great. They got me into a lot of great games that I haven't even heard of before your videos.

    • @gefjeff720
      @gefjeff720  Рік тому +1

      @@RPGFanGirl64 That's great to hear!