not sure if the Bolt is the most transparent, but it seems to be the most conservative. The EV^ seems to. be the most accurate. Tesla seems to be just a random number they throw on the screen, now I see why some people choose to have just the battery percent displayed instead of the "miles to empty"guess
It is very accurate and efficient. I know because I own a bolt euv.. it honestly comes down to road trips past epa and charging rate. That's where other ev will win
The 2019 Bolt had the seat heaters and steering wheel heaters on. Did the Tesla and Ev6 also have seat and steering wheel heaters on. Seems like the Bolt climate control and the other heaters on at the same time may be a disavantage and will drive up the energy used.
Tesla had heated seats and steering wheel turned on to the max, same with the ev6. If I had to rank which car has the hottest seats it's the Tesla by far, than ev6, than bolt with the coolest seat heaters. Ev6 doesn't have a heated steering wheel unfortunately.
But the key to efficiency in winter is to have the battery warmed prior to driving. Whether connected in a garage, or outdoors without a connection. That's because most of the losses in range/efficiency is due to having to warm a stone cold battery while driving.
I disagree that most of the range loss is due to warming a cold battery, that definitely can happen if you need it toasty warm battery because your traveling to a DC Fast Charger, but day to day in the winter your electric vehicle isn't wasting much heat on the battery. The chevrolet bolt shows exactly how much power your car uses since full charge and almost none of it goes into battery conditioning compared to driving or heating the cabin is what I have noticed. I believe it could be that the cabin gets colder overnight from the lack of insulation that the battery does have or it could just be that batteries naturally produces some waste heat while driving which its enough to keep it in operating temperatures. (Note that if I wanted to DC Fast charge the car would definitely actively heat the pack.) If I drive in the winter my range does not appear to be very effected if I turn my cabin climate settings off is what I have personally noticed.
@@batteryblade You're misunderstanding battery preconditioning with having the battery warm. For DC fast charging, it needs to be between 80 to 100F. That's battery preconditioning. What I'm talking about is warming the battery to around 40F (or better still 50F) prior to driving. A battery cannot work efficiently until it reaches those temperatures. If you don't believe that, then that's your next test video. First drive with a stone cold battery, and then a second time with a warm battery and measure the difference in efficiency. Again, NOT battery preconditioning temperatures for DC fast charging. Just a warm enough battery to work efficiently prior to driving. You can achieve that by either finishing charging just prior to driving, or by having the EV condition the cabin or on defrost for about an hour prior to driving. In doing that, the battery will slowly and efficiently warm itself.
You do know that the displayed number in Tesla isn’t the range, but it’s the expression based on EPA of the battery capacity, right ? So you compare a GOM (Bolt) with an EPA number (Tesla). GOM = Guess-O-Meter number based on previous driving. Should have used the Energy tab in Tesla and see the GOM at start and then the GOM at end.
I don't like auto tbh because it always seems to turn the fans on too high no matter which car I'm in. Plus the settings I want the temperature and fan speed seems to be more of my mood dependent, than dependent on measurable factors like outdoor temperature hence it never seems to be what I want!
For a proper winter test you have to condition the battery an hour before the test and have at least one charging session with battery preconditioning.
not sure if the Bolt is the most transparent, but it seems to be the most conservative. The EV^ seems to. be the most accurate. Tesla seems to be just a random number they throw on the screen, now I see why some people choose to have just the battery percent displayed instead of the "miles to empty"guess
It is very accurate and efficient. I know because I own a bolt euv.. it honestly comes down to road trips past epa and charging rate. That's where other ev will win
Great info
The 2019 Bolt had the seat heaters and steering wheel heaters on. Did the Tesla and Ev6 also have seat and steering wheel heaters on. Seems like the Bolt climate control and the other heaters on at the same time may be a disavantage and will drive up the energy used.
Tesla had heated seats and steering wheel turned on to the max, same with the ev6. If I had to rank which car has the hottest seats it's the Tesla by far, than ev6, than bolt with the coolest seat heaters. Ev6 doesn't have a heated steering wheel unfortunately.
Good video, I just debate it being cold if it's not even below freezing. :)
But the key to efficiency in winter is to have the battery warmed prior to driving. Whether connected in a garage, or outdoors without a connection. That's because most of the losses in range/efficiency is due to having to warm a stone cold battery while driving.
I disagree that most of the range loss is due to warming a cold battery, that definitely can happen if you need it toasty warm battery because your traveling to a DC Fast Charger, but day to day in the winter your electric vehicle isn't wasting much heat on the battery. The chevrolet bolt shows exactly how much power your car uses since full charge and almost none of it goes into battery conditioning compared to driving or heating the cabin is what I have noticed. I believe it could be that the cabin gets colder overnight from the lack of insulation that the battery does have or it could just be that batteries naturally produces some waste heat while driving which its enough to keep it in operating temperatures. (Note that if I wanted to DC Fast charge the car would definitely actively heat the pack.) If I drive in the winter my range does not appear to be very effected if I turn my cabin climate settings off is what I have personally noticed.
@@batteryblade You're misunderstanding battery preconditioning with having the battery warm. For DC fast charging, it needs to be between 80 to 100F. That's battery preconditioning.
What I'm talking about is warming the battery to around 40F (or better still 50F) prior to driving. A battery cannot work efficiently until it reaches those temperatures.
If you don't believe that, then that's your next test video. First drive with a stone cold battery, and then a second time with a warm battery and measure the difference in efficiency. Again, NOT battery preconditioning temperatures for DC fast charging. Just a warm enough battery to work efficiently prior to driving.
You can achieve that by either finishing charging just prior to driving, or by having the EV condition the cabin or on defrost for about an hour prior to driving. In doing that, the battery will slowly and efficiently warm itself.
Would the test results be similar in warmer weather?
I'm not honestly sure!
You do know that the displayed number in Tesla isn’t the range, but it’s the expression based on EPA of the battery capacity, right ? So you compare a GOM (Bolt) with an EPA number (Tesla). GOM = Guess-O-Meter number based on previous driving. Should have used the Energy tab in Tesla and see the GOM at start and then the GOM at end.
Yeah I do know that but that epa range based on battery capacity is the number that most new Tesla owners would see and think is their range!
@@batteryblade this is why you can educate them. And tell them what it really is. 😉
Well its called a "guessometer" for a reason.
Thank someone show real
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Isn’t the Tesla at 2.57 kWh?
That’s what a saw as well
It's annoying when people don't use auto temp.
I don't like auto tbh because it always seems to turn the fans on too high no matter which car I'm in. Plus the settings I want the temperature and fan speed seems to be more of my mood dependent, than dependent on measurable factors like outdoor temperature hence it never seems to be what I want!
For a proper winter test you have to condition the battery an hour before the test and have at least one charging session with battery preconditioning.
It was really just a winter efficiency and winter range accuracy test, maybe next time I could do do a winter charging session test.
this dude is cute af