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Thanks for the cool Video. Isn´t it funny That i asked for exacly that Type of Video Yesterday? But it was cool, that you presented the Situation in Europe to your mostly US Audience, have a Great Day!
I'm curious as to why you missed, or snubbed, the Suzuki DR200S? Suzuki still sells this in the US (unlike the Van Van and the bunch of other sub-200cc bikes on this list). It's also a direct competitor to the Yamaha TW200. Anyway... I'll KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB!, KEEP WATCHING YAMMI NOOB!!, KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB!!!, KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB!!!! 😀😁🤣
That's the weird thing with smaller bikes here in the UK . Being so in demand due to our licensing laws, they hold their value and it's actually way cheaper to buy a used 600cc+ bike than buying a used 125cc that isn't total wrecked. Honestly you can pick up a decent mid 2000's VFR with matching luggage for the price of a shagged 125cc lol
Wow! I had never considered that aspect. Certainly not a pattern you see in the US, ha. Since they're noob bikes, you can get used ones here for a steal. (Well, comparatively. _All_ used bikes, like cars, are still pretty pricey now it seems! Maybe they'll come back down to normal again soon.)
@@keithquinn5624 tell me about it we are not allowed to go off road on dirt bikes unless it's on a dirt bike track but the roads have some nice twist and turns but the state of the roads are more or less like riding off road especially here I the Rhondda valley's south wales UK.
The tdub is a great bike for exploring new areas when you just want to ride slow and chill out. The low seat, super low gearing, and fat tires make it pretty certain that you can put through the gnarliest terrain and not stall out or drop the bike. If I had to pick any of my bikes to explore a new, treacherous unmarked trail I always pick the tdub. I always know I will be able to get myself out of whatever sketchy situation I get myself into.
I like the TW for its simplicity and carbs. A little concerned about the odd tire sizes but there were so many made I suspect they will be available for some time. Seems like a great homestead bike.
I love my Tdub! It's such a fantastic trail bike. Don't worry about tire sizes for 2 main reasons. 1: the bike is shit to ride on roads. It can do it but it's handling is terrible. You're not going to be going full lean in corners cause it's just not built for it. 2: for you masochist who will do it anyway, the rear tire is basically a curved 4 wheeler tire. The amount of sidewall traction is actually insane. I have ridden across a slope in the pouring rain on wet leaves and haven't lost traction
i own a yzf r125 myself since im only 17 in the UK, and honestly its got enough power to get around places efficiently, its loads of fun on a b-road and with an exhaust change it even sounds great. if you are sat there thinking that 125cc bikes are completely boring, you are dead wrong my friend. a 125cc bike is the most fun me, my dad and my cousin have ever had on the roads. especially since my exhaust is so loud we get onto a back road and we absolutely rip it open, deafening the locals.
Bit disappointed that the Aprilia RS4 125 and Tuono 125 didn’t make the list, the (in my case 2019 Tuono 125) was a great bike to ride on and very confidence inspiring in the corners. Even long 7 hour 500km rides aren’t a problem.
And even for seasoned ones that found out they are better for rolling arround town then any 600cc... They may not make much sense in USA, outside NY and perhaps LA, but anywhere you got huge urban complexes clustered and speed limits rarelly exceeding 100 kmh (65 mph) they may be life long choices...
Bought my wife a Lifan KP mini 150. $2000.00 delivered to my front door and she absolutely loves it! 5 speed gearbox gives it a top speed of 70mph. She is only 5’ tall, so it’s low seat height and 210lbs weight makes it a perfect starter bike for smaller riders.
Im in the states and actually moved up in bikes, went from a 125 Grom to a Ninja 400 then to a Gsxr 600 now have a Gsxr 750. I love them all. Side note: I also bought another Grom bc they are sick
I did started to my cbt here in the uk on a grom and I was having trouble with it as it was way to small for me so the instructor gave me a cb125r to do it on and I flew through it and the instructor said I had more control over that bike than the grom he also gave me a go of his cb650r I the compound and said I handle that even better.
The TW200 and Trail 125 are not just great beginner bikes, they are expert bike also. I have owned some powerful off-road bikes, still have a KTM 450EXC. My wife's and I also ride Harleys. My next bikes are going to be 2 TW 200's to put in the toy hauler next to the Harleys. So many nice fire roads and wide trails to enjoy in our National parks not to have them bikes.
As a kid i was DYING for a dirt bike. For my 13th birthday in 2008 my parents bought a new TW200 for my dad to ride on the roads and for me to ride off road with my friends. The tw200 is such a great all rounder starter bike. Jack of all traits, master of none kinda thing. I'm turning 27 this year and still own it. I loan to any of friends who want to start riding. My tdub has almost 20k miles on it. Probs 1/3 of those are off road. Learned how to ride on the street and off road. Another unforeseen plus of owning a tbud is you learn how to wrench since its so simply. I find it easier to wrench on my bigger bikes I own now because of my tdub experience
I bought an SG250 in 2020 to learn on/work on and I love it. I learned how to do a valve adjustment, change the oil, and adjust the chain. It gets great mileage, has plenty of power for just bopping around town, and it maxes out at about 65mph for me on a flat highway. I think it looks pretty cool and the seat is so low a kid could ride it, it's a great learner bike and the price is right. Like Yam said tho, gotta want to do your own work.
I commuted to work on a KTM 125. Max road speed was 40 mph. 200miles from a tank of gas and ride like you stole it. Cheaper than a bus pass and quicker. I have my two stroke to annoy the polar bears and about to buy my first big bike a Ducati monster 👹
The Duke 200 makes sense in a county like India where we rarely get chance to go above 65mph and the fuel prices are sky high too soo efficiency matters I mean really matters a lot (kithna dethi hai for all my Indian😉) it has enough power to zip around our thight roads. I own a royal Enfield classic 350 btw 😂
I rode a Van Van during my MSC. For what it is it was a nice bike and at 6'4'' 250lbs I actually fit it fairly well since I could scoot back a bit on the flat seat.
I'm definitely going to buy a TW200 this year. I live in the mountains of Mongolia and have to ride 9km (6 miles), cross 3 small rivers and ride down a dirt road before I get to a paved road. It's perfect my lifestyle.
i bought a used Yamaha v star 250 for my first bike and loved it! it wasn't fast, it over heated on a long trip through the Arizona desert in the summer, and was down right dangerous on the highway in Phoenix where everyone is doing 80 - 90 mph no matter what the speed limit is. but it was comfortable and a great starter bike! I now have a Kawi er6n (a naked ninja 650 and the predecessor to the z650) but I still miss that simple, little v twin cruiser! Picked it up in 2020 with about 3500 miles on the clock for $2000
Ya know I get why they limit new riders to 125cc in other countries. About a week into riding on my new R3 I was in a smallish parking lot gassing up (probably for the first time) and I was surrounded by cars and I got all nervous because I knew people were watching me and checking out my cool looking bike so in a state of nervous frenzy I ended up chopping the throttle and popping the clutch. I actually popped my first mini wheelie and took off like a bat out of hell all out of control and missed the front end of a car by what seemed like an inch at the time. Luckily I got everything under control before I shot out into traffic and ended up a statistic. I just remember the embarrassment and I gave everybody an I’m sorry wave and got the hell out of there before the laughter and pointing at the idiot ensued. It’s a good thing I was just on a R3 and it wasn’t on a big bike, especially an older one without traction control because I’m sure I would’ve looped it and caused somebody some real damage.
I think my Duke 200 keeps up or exceeds all of these in usability around the city. I can get up to 75 or 80+ (fastest speedlimit here is 65 on one stretch of highway) if needed, it taught me how to ride, and gets me around the city just fine, plus its cheap for when I inevitably upgrade after the first year. I think most people who get these were looking at grom's and z125s to begin with and found something more usable. While I'd like a 390 if money was no object (in regards to something I know I will replace fairly soon) I feel like I found a happy medium. Sure I can't blast down the highway for a long trip but I'm just fine riding it for short stretches to work or to run errands. Now that I have my bearings I think I'll transfer to a rs660 sometime soon and I can either keep this or trade it in because face it...we didn't get into motorcycling to ride a beginner bike forever.
Dukes out of factory run stupidly lean to fulfill the necessary requirement of BS/EURO. Properly tuned they can go faster AND cooler, though you can say goodbye to fuel economy.
R15 v4 is the best beginner bike in India. It has 155cc , 18.4 HP , 14.2 torque , traction control , quick shifter , dual channel abs , USD forks , Slipper clutch , VVA tech and is available for like 2317 USD
Some more indian bikes for you all to add to the list 😉 1. TVS Apache RTR 200 4v and RR310 (based on BMW G310R ) 2. Yamaha FZ25 (Air cooled single cylinder bike looks underpowered on paper but its peppy as hell due to its lightweight 154kg kerb weight) 3. Bajaj pulsar NS200 and RS200 (Engine derived from KTM Duke 200 ) 4. Suzuki Gixxer 250 twins (Reliabile and quick) 5. Hero Xpulse 200 4V (Affordable dual sport bike )and xpulse 200T ( Retro modern street bike) 6. KTM Duke 250 ( if 200 was too tame for you then 250 will do) 7. Bajaj pulsar F250 and N250 8. Yamaha R15 and MT15 (Gets VVA technology from its big brother R1) Note : most of these bikes are sold in Latin America, you can import them to the 🇺🇸 easily. Most of the bikes here are Air cooled except for ktm Dukes and Bajaj pulsar NS200 and RS200 they are liquid cooled. Bonus information: Also check out Mutt motorcycles, they make some really good 125cc and 250cc Retro modern bike with Suzuki's Air cooled reliable refined engines . They are British with a Japanese heart .
There's a dude near me (Crystal Lake, IL) who owns a Trail 125. He mounted one of those orange pennants on a rubber pole you see on recumbent bikes on the back, and the frickin mad lad rides it on 31 (which has a speed limit of 55 in places)!
The v-star 250 was me first bike. I miss it despite it struggling to keep up with traffic up hills. It’s a great bike to learn the basics on and handles well when you take a turn wrong and hit pine straw…
Took a MSF refresher class, a few years ago. (after having an M1 endorsement for 35 years....highly recomend doing that) Anyway...I rode a brand new Tdub, in class. Never rode one before. As soon as class was dismissed, I went to the Yamaha dealer, and bought one, just for shits n giggles. I have put 22k miles on it, and every time I ride it, it makes me smile. I ride KTM, 450 and 525, for off road and dual sport rides. And a Royal Star, in the street. If times get tough...the Tdub will be my apocalypse bike. It's super fun, in a goofy way, and bulletproof.
Would love to see you do a long guys go on a long journey and brake it up over a couple of 45 minute videos like load the bikes up with camping gear and any thing else you may need and go for a hell of a long ride.
When I was young you could get a license at 14 for up to a 125 in Tennessee. Lots of us had those small enduros and they were fun for junior high kids. Of course, there was significant cheating and you’d see plenty of 175’s, 185’s and 250’s
I started and still own a 125cc here in Ireland, it's unsafe for most road situations, and doesn't have the power to be 100% confident, I'm 17 and been riding for a year on the street as it's easier than a car lisense and cheaper. Next bike will either be a Benelli TRK 502X or HD sportster, not sure if I want a ADV or a cruiser just yet, rn I got a 125 sport bike...if I could call it that, it has the looks... nothing more lol
In 1983 Yamaha's YZ80 had 20 horses I know that the Yammie is a 2 smoker but that is at least 5 more horses than those GSXR FZR AND NINJA yet the sportbikes have almost 50cc more displacement and almost 40 years of technolgy advancements. Wow we have come so far
It would be a cool idea if the yam channel went thru a phase where it was strictly city riding for like a month. It'll give some people a different perspective on city riding with all kinds of bikes
Having had my full licence here in Australia for over 40 years I’m surprised how many small bikes today which look like would give you heaps of giggles. Love the bikes like the Grom and Trail. 2 bikes we don’t get here in Australia are the Suzuki Vanvan and the Yamaha TW they remind me so much of the old little trail bikes like the Bultacos, Ossas and little Yamahas I was riding in the 70s. Love your work thanks for sharing.
Used my VanVan for work when I worked near where I lived. Then I got a big boy job further up the highway. Driving for almost twice as long as I would over the highway on back roads and exploring on my way home. I already miss the damn thing. Traded it for a copper colored Suzuki bandit 600.
I had 3 bikes before my 1000. And stillliterally any time I went WOT I would be grinning ear to ear and saying “this is CRAZY”. Please don’t start on a 1000 😂
Tdubs and Dr 200 are awesome trail bikes. But those that know, know. Those Sg250 have strong little motors. Those Honda Cg230 clones are pretty bullet proof. I put 30k miles on one in 4 years without so much as a hicupp.
The cg230 clone lacks the low end power of the tw200 by alot, makes for a very different kind of ride especially on hill climbs because you have to keep the momentum up alot more
I used to ride a z125 to a buddies house…. About 45 mins but if you take the back roads about 1.5 hours…. Flat i could do 58ish… slight downhill id hit 60 and slight uphill id slow down to about 55ish…. Its wasn’t hard and it did it like every weekend for a couple months
Was thinking that the "Grom Killer" title was going to go to the Benelli Tnt 135, what I personally own and have a ton of fun on, but great vid nontheless!
@@willyjimmy8881 I am a beginner rider, but I love mine, and I haven't really needed aftermarket parts yet, but overall everything feels solid and I think with just a few upgrades the OEM version will go a pretty long way
Me watching this in Europe and going: "Ugh... the only ones out of these we get are the baby sportbikes!" I'm begging manufacturers and dealerships, bring us the actually fun ones! The Van Van, the Trail, the Navi, the PG-1... why don't we get the fun ones. And I am saying this as a person who actually owned a 125cc sportbike when I was 18. It wasn't the engine that made me sell it, it was the riding style. I'm sure the leaned forward style works great on a liter bike on the track, or even a 600 on a normal highway. It is however just needless wrist and back pain on a bike that can barely go fast enough to make wind resistance a problem. As a track toy, it was tons of fun, as an everyday bike... hard no. If you're going to get a 125, I honestly recommend getting a scooter over the sportbikes. It'll be more practical, much more comfortable and at those speeds, about as fun to ride.
Yo papa Yamms ,please do a video on Bajaj Pulsar Rs 200 & Ns 200, Honda Cbr250rr, Yamaha R25, kawasaki Ninja Zx25r. I hope you read this and make a video about these bikes, these bikes are famouse around Malaysia & Indonesia. Btw, love your content Papa Yamm 💕
You guys have all the fun there in the US. Here in VN it's actually dumb to buy any bike above 200cc, practically speaking. Yes, we have a license system that separate bikes above and under 175cc, but that's not the reason. The reason that even if you're on a Fireblade you can still only go as fast as 70 kph (45mph) because that's the maximum speed limit for any motorcycle anywhere in the country.
Great video! I'm thinking that "small bikes" (and I don't mean scooters, they're already a "big thing", and probably not 125s either) will be the "next big thing" in motorycling, now that everybody's over the 1700cc (and larger) cruiser craze. And by "big", I just mean that maybe 20% or better of the market for street bikes in North America might be in the 150 - 400cc range. A market where some manufacturers didn't have anything more than a single choice of a 250cc beginner's bike, that grew to 300cc a few years back. We're heading towards a variety of pure street/commuter hyper-mileage 150/200/250 bikes, dual sports like the true off-road-capable CFR250/300L/Rally and Yammy 400z, I'd love to see the Kawi range of KLR/KLX 250/300/400 models joined by a revived DR350 and maybe an XL350. I'd love to have a TW200, but I went with the budget XR150L this spring. Those bikes can't really change without drastic changes to meet modern emissions rules, hence the "stuck in time" carburetor and drum brake. The TW is an 80's classic that I believe was updated with electric start back in the 90s or such. Now I'm advertising my vStrom 650 that I rode for 5 years after selling my vStrom 1000. Oh, I bought/tore-down/re-built/rode my first Yammy 50 years ago (well, got it on the rode 49 years ago. Was old enough to get my driver's license 48 years ago. Only had cops pull me off the Trans Canada once when I was 15) so I think its funny that I'm watching "Yammy Noob". Keep the videos coming!
People always talk about starting on these little bikes but I’ve never seen them on the road. The only time I’ve seen small cc bikes were at the MFS class.
The reason for small displacement bike is essentially displacement regulation. Big ass 400+cc is punishing to just about everyone in Asia and most of Europe, whether it's in licensing, tax, or insurance.
Great Video, but one small error. There are two Z125 from Kawasaki. The Z125 Pro with 8HP (Grom Clone) and the normal Z125 with 15 HP. You’ve shown pictures of both bikes. The normal Z125 is bigger, and like the Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki Counterparts
So weird... I just trade my KTM 500 2017 for a GSX S750... today (21the feb 2022). Nothing wrong with my KTM, but I did what I had to do out there in the bush... well mayby not, I still have my TW200. I had a choice between my KTM and TW, and I choose my TW.
TVS makes a 200cc Apache. Not a bad little bike...about 21hp. Also has a nifty traffic feature that feeds the motor gas when you let off the clutch in first or 2nd.... you only have to let off the clutch and it automatically cruises at 5mph in 1st or about 10mph on 2nd
@@Smallbore2wheels I have a 1982 Hand a C70 Passport. I play with it in the snow and dirt roads. Beat all to tell, always runs. Those old Japanese aircooled engines just work.
My wife had one of those in Mexico. Soild and reliable little bike. Still confused by 3 different sparkplugs for 1 cylinder. She beat it to hell for 3 years and no issues.
@@Jwthemechanic it's for a better burning of the gas in the cylinder, that one of the main reason why produces 24hp with a 200cc engine, I have one at the moment and I freaking love it.
I stared at 3 years old driving my dads Honda CB750FourK! He did the gears and back brake and I did the rest till we came to a stop then he had to grab it cause I couldn’t reach the ground! Then I got a 60cc Honda 2 stroke and I could ride it along just couldn’t reach on one side but I grew into it
To chime in about the V Star 250. Yes, it has A BIT less vibration than the tiny thumpers, but man, I once test started one at a dealership and that thing buzzed like a vibrator.
I've been waiting for this. I bought a SYMNHT200 because a 400cc is just too expensive in South Africa. Still nice to see other bikes under 250cc to begin on.
MT-125 at £4,700 vs an MT-07 £7,000 both 2022 NEW in the UK. at the price difference its really tempting to just skip the smaller displacement if you have the appropriate license.
Dude, dont wanna sound like THAT guy in the comments, but cb125r literally obliterates the other japanese 125s in pretty much every category ...smiley winky face dont be mad at me almighty Pappa-Daddy Yam
I grew up watching my father ride motos and I sort of expected him to teach me and he never did but that's okay. I think I'll have to source one of these smaller bikes and just full send it if I ever want to learn...
Firmly believe if someone is green they need to start out on something 150 cc. I have a 200 dual sport that pulls up quite easily and great up steep elevations for someone that weighs 220. lb . Even a 200 CC for most if they have never touched a motorcycle will get them in trouble. You need to learn handling, balance, time to stop of the mechanical determinations/expectiations of the bike. You make a mistake your bones are broken or worse; hell i'd even reccomend someone to get a little 50 cc or 100 just to learn basic handling. going to a 200 - 600 cc is a good jump in terms of acceleration, weight and how the bike handles. When you hit high speeds anything over 100 km per hour let's say the bike behaves a lot differently along with how your body affects the sway and de-acceleration of the vehicle. motorcycles are a lot of fun but you need a solid base first. Other than that - enjoy the endorphine rush, stress releif and feelings of freedom and friendship among other riders.
It's an old expression but totally valid. If we're talking the difference of less than 10 pounds between 313 and 320 lbs, that's like drinking a big gulp or bringing a full tool kit (heck, I could stand to lose more than twice that much) The best weight reduction on a motorcycle will almost always come off the rider LOL!
if i wasnt buying my buddy's suzuki GZ250 i might actually grab a San Gabriel 250. it is a cool looking bike. holy cow they even have the SG250 in a nice dark green color! love that.
I am a Van Van 125 owner, its actually a blast to ride about. Im a UK rider and it is my first bike -- Was hoping it made an appearance on this list, so glad it did! The seat is also hella comfortable, could ride it for hours on end :D
I’ve ridden a lot of little bikes as I have been a moto coach a long long time. One of the things that makes me love the TW is it’s size compared to other small bikes. The TU250X is a good learning tool but for myself the bars are a bit narrow. TW is not a powerhouse but it has larger riding triangle and wider bars that offer more room to work.
Yammie greetings from Costa Rica love your videos Here we have lots of small bikes like honda xr 150, yamaha xtz 150 and many others Sometimes because of the economy and also for the condición of the streets you cant go very fast without come across some potholes I imagine thats why the brands have to adapt in every local market
UK: I had a mutt mongrel as my first bike, it was great little bike when it wasn't raining or dark!! Honda cg125 engine, built up in China and repackaged retro aesthetics (Bonneville style) in the England. If I was buying now I'd go for the Xsr125, looked good when I was in the dealership the other day.
Getting on the Apache 1604v and revving it up actually feels somewhat like a 300cc bike due to it's bassy exhaust. Hands down best sounding small displacement bike
You forgot about the duke 125cc. I have 1 and I must say it's a good starter bike for here in the UK and the max hp for a 125 in the UK is 15hp and it is measured in kW power and your only allowed 11kw of power. I know I did my cbt on the 28th January 2022 here in South Wales UK. As I am 45 this year I am going to do my full A licence within the 2 years that a cbt lasts.
The best under 200-250 cc segment in India is a rats race of who sells the most , and tbh TVS apache is just a small part of the market which is lead by hero splendour 100 cc which they have sold like number of stars in galaxy . Our very best Indian sport bike segment in this range is the all mighty pulsar 220f and yzf R15 v3-v4 . And pulsar was too good for its own liking that the bike was unchanged for like 2 decades that it got the update now as pulsar f250 . The all mighty platina puts out minimum of 80 kmpl , TVS apache and pulsars were rivals for a very long time in every cc segment . The bullets and classic 350 offered by royal Enfield are really swarming up the (says 350cc but behaves like 150cc) category . Ktms in India offer 125,200,250,390 which do offer exceptional package though they are regarded as not so reliable and all together have a bad reputation due to rash drivers and squids .I personally own a R15 V3(dark knight ) which has the best in class 155cc supremacy of Yamaha , offering sucha top end Every other 200 cc bike would be shamed . The new rc 200 is on the shelf these days . Now i am gonna buy my second motorcycle as Honda CB 350 RS . I did this comment as there is alot of confusion for YAM about India . Ps - Just send one Kawasaki klr for me . Thanks man appreciate your content.
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Thanks for the cool Video. Isn´t it funny That i asked for exacly that Type of Video Yesterday? But it was cool, that you presented the Situation in Europe to your mostly US Audience, have a Great Day!
I'm curious as to why you missed, or snubbed, the Suzuki DR200S? Suzuki still sells this in the US (unlike the Van Van and the bunch of other sub-200cc bikes on this list). It's also a direct competitor to the Yamaha TW200. Anyway... I'll KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB!, KEEP WATCHING YAMMI NOOB!!, KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB!!!, KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB!!!! 😀😁🤣
I thought I would see yamaha y15zr or honda rs150r here
Bust on the electric bike. E-scooters are getting up to 80mph. With econo mode of 79 mile range.
That's the weird thing with smaller bikes here in the UK . Being so in demand due to our licensing laws, they hold their value and it's actually way cheaper to buy a used 600cc+ bike than buying a used 125cc that isn't total wrecked. Honestly you can pick up a decent mid 2000's VFR with matching luggage for the price of a shagged 125cc lol
*EU : R125 5490 euro (6200 USD) USA: R3 5000 USD*
Same in Australia. The LAMS (like A2) bikes hold their value crazily.
Wow! I had never considered that aspect. Certainly not a pattern you see in the US, ha. Since they're noob bikes, you can get used ones here for a steal. (Well, comparatively. _All_ used bikes, like cars, are still pretty pricey now it seems! Maybe they'll come back down to normal again soon.)
Yeah mate here in australia the mt07 lams models never dip below 8k and there 12ish brand new
Even for a 2014 model
@@keithquinn5624 tell me about it we are not allowed to go off road on dirt bikes unless it's on a dirt bike track but the roads have some nice twist and turns but the state of the roads are more or less like riding off road especially here I the Rhondda valley's south wales UK.
The tdub is a great bike for exploring new areas when you just want to ride slow and chill out. The low seat, super low gearing, and fat tires make it pretty certain that you can put through the gnarliest terrain and not stall out or drop the bike. If I had to pick any of my bikes to explore a new, treacherous unmarked trail I always pick the tdub. I always know I will be able to get myself out of whatever sketchy situation I get myself into.
I like the TW for its simplicity and carbs. A little concerned about the odd tire sizes but there were so many made I suspect they will be available for some time. Seems like a great homestead bike.
I couldn't find a tdub here in Thailand 😢
Both a beginner and expert bike. How many old off-roaders with their racing days behind them, now ride these just to chill?
I love my Tdub! It's such a fantastic trail bike. Don't worry about tire sizes for 2 main reasons.
1: the bike is shit to ride on roads. It can do it but it's handling is terrible. You're not going to be going full lean in corners cause it's just not built for it.
2: for you masochist who will do it anyway, the rear tire is basically a curved 4 wheeler tire. The amount of sidewall traction is actually insane. I have ridden across a slope in the pouring rain on wet leaves and haven't lost traction
Would the T-Dub carry a 270 pound rider around and still be able to climb out of things and go up steep hills??
i own a yzf r125 myself since im only 17 in the UK, and honestly its got enough power to get around places efficiently, its loads of fun on a b-road and with an exhaust change it even sounds great. if you are sat there thinking that 125cc bikes are completely boring, you are dead wrong my friend. a 125cc bike is the most fun me, my dad and my cousin have ever had on the roads. especially since my exhaust is so loud we get onto a back road and we absolutely rip it open, deafening the locals.
lmao black widow exhuast
@@blazortheepic0384 nah SC project race exhaust bro. It technically ain't even street legal it's too loud
If it’s loud asf you already know it’s some 125cc without a dB-eater hahaha
Bit disappointed that the Aprilia RS4 125 and Tuono 125 didn’t make the list, the (in my case 2019 Tuono 125) was a great bike to ride on and very confidence inspiring in the corners. Even long 7 hour 500km rides aren’t a problem.
I don’t think they sell those in the USA.
We don’t get a lot of small bikes here lol
it'a more than 5k $ for sure, Aprilia is expensive af
They'll be extremely out of place on big American roads, but tiny bikes are an absolute blast around tight city streets
Bajaj is the one who built bikes for ktm not tvs. TVS is making bike for BMW
Yep says it right on the title
This video was made for Indians 🥲💔
He got noob in his name what you expect 🙂
Or may be he’s saying that because ktm says ready to race and tvs is selling it as race ready naked bike 🤔
@@lqtaher2 Yes, Indians living in the US.
FINALLY! A vid for us responsible newbies who run small displacement!
And even for seasoned ones that found out they are better for rolling arround town then any 600cc... They may not make much sense in USA, outside NY and perhaps LA, but anywhere you got huge urban complexes clustered and speed limits rarelly exceeding 100 kmh (65 mph) they may be life long choices...
@@eddiestray4870 EXACTLY
Bought my wife a Lifan KP mini 150. $2000.00 delivered to my front door and she absolutely loves it! 5 speed gearbox gives it a top speed of 70mph. She is only 5’ tall, so it’s low seat height and 210lbs weight makes it a perfect starter bike for smaller riders.
Im in the states and actually moved up in bikes, went from a 125 Grom to a Ninja 400 then to a Gsxr 600 now have a Gsxr 750. I love them all. Side note: I also bought another Grom bc they are sick
I did started to my cbt here in the uk on a grom and I was having trouble with it as it was way to small for me so the instructor gave me a cb125r to do it on and I flew through it and the instructor said I had more control over that bike than the grom he also gave me a go of his cb650r I the compound and said I handle that even better.
The TW200 and Trail 125 are not just great beginner bikes, they are expert bike also. I have owned some powerful off-road bikes, still have a KTM 450EXC. My wife's and I also ride Harleys. My next bikes are going to be 2 TW 200's to put in the toy hauler next to the Harleys. So many nice fire roads and wide trails to enjoy in our National parks not to have them bikes.
The TW200 is great for fire roads and sandy conditions. I live in Northern Nevada and my TW has taken me places you wouldn't believe.
As a kid i was DYING for a dirt bike. For my 13th birthday in 2008 my parents bought a new TW200 for my dad to ride on the roads and for me to ride off road with my friends. The tw200 is such a great all rounder starter bike. Jack of all traits, master of none kinda thing. I'm turning 27 this year and still own it. I loan to any of friends who want to start riding. My tdub has almost 20k miles on it. Probs 1/3 of those are off road. Learned how to ride on the street and off road.
Another unforeseen plus of owning a tbud is you learn how to wrench since its so simply. I find it easier to wrench on my bigger bikes I own now because of my tdub experience
I bought an SG250 in 2020 to learn on/work on and I love it. I learned how to do a valve adjustment, change the oil, and adjust the chain. It gets great mileage, has plenty of power for just bopping around town, and it maxes out at about 65mph for me on a flat highway. I think it looks pretty cool and the seat is so low a kid could ride it, it's a great learner bike and the price is right. Like Yam said tho, gotta want to do your own work.
I commuted to work on a KTM 125. Max road speed was 40 mph. 200miles from a tank of gas and ride like you stole it. Cheaper than a bus pass and quicker. I have my two stroke to annoy the polar bears and about to buy my first big bike a Ducati monster 👹
The Duke 200 makes sense in a county like India where we rarely get chance to go above 65mph and the fuel prices are sky high too soo efficiency matters I mean really matters a lot (kithna dethi hai for all my Indian😉) it has enough power to zip around our thight roads. I own a royal Enfield classic 350 btw 😂
I rode a Van Van during my MSC. For what it is it was a nice bike and at 6'4'' 250lbs I actually fit it fairly well since I could scoot back a bit on the flat seat.
You want the R15 with VVT over the R125 I reckon, plenty fast for the capacity!
Honda cb125r by far the best 125 I ever owned but equally don’t miss the 125 days now I’ve passed all my tests here in the UK.
I'm definitely going to buy a TW200 this year. I live in the mountains of Mongolia and have to ride 9km (6 miles), cross 3 small rivers and ride down a dirt road before I get to a paved road. It's perfect my lifestyle.
i bought a used Yamaha v star 250 for my first bike and loved it! it wasn't fast, it over heated on a long trip through the Arizona desert in the summer, and was down right dangerous on the highway in Phoenix where everyone is doing 80 - 90 mph no matter what the speed limit is. but it was comfortable and a great starter bike! I now have a Kawi er6n (a naked ninja 650 and the predecessor to the z650) but I still miss that simple, little v twin cruiser! Picked it up in 2020 with about 3500 miles on the clock for $2000
Love my TW. It's no power house but it goes almost everywhere.
Ya know I get why they limit new riders to 125cc in other countries. About a week into riding on my new R3 I was in a smallish parking lot gassing up (probably for the first time) and I was surrounded by cars and I got all nervous because I knew people were watching me and checking out my cool looking bike so in a state of nervous frenzy I ended up chopping the throttle and popping the clutch. I actually popped my first mini wheelie and took off like a bat out of hell all out of control and missed the front end of a car by what seemed like an inch at the time. Luckily I got everything under control before I shot out into traffic and ended up a statistic. I just remember the embarrassment and I gave everybody an I’m sorry wave and got the hell out of there before the laughter and pointing at the idiot ensued. It’s a good thing I was just on a R3 and it wasn’t on a big bike, especially an older one without traction control because I’m sure I would’ve looped it and caused somebody some real damage.
I think my Duke 200 keeps up or exceeds all of these in usability around the city. I can get up to 75 or 80+ (fastest speedlimit here is 65 on one stretch of highway) if needed, it taught me how to ride, and gets me around the city just fine, plus its cheap for when I inevitably upgrade after the first year. I think most people who get these were looking at grom's and z125s to begin with and found something more usable. While I'd like a 390 if money was no object (in regards to something I know I will replace fairly soon) I feel like I found a happy medium. Sure I can't blast down the highway for a long trip but I'm just fine riding it for short stretches to work or to run errands. Now that I have my bearings I think I'll transfer to a rs660 sometime soon and I can either keep this or trade it in because face it...we didn't get into motorcycling to ride a beginner bike forever.
Dukes out of factory run stupidly lean to fulfill the necessary requirement of BS/EURO. Properly tuned they can go faster AND cooler, though you can say goodbye to fuel economy.
Gutted that you missed the legendairy amazing Honda NSR 125 R, it is a true legendary two stroke sport masterpiece😭😭😭😭
Thank for this video... We only have bikes below 400CC anyway. So this is just made for us... 😍👌👌👌
This video was made for Indians 🥲💔
@@lqtaher2 not just Indians for whole south asia
R15 v4 is the best beginner bike in India. It has 155cc , 18.4 HP , 14.2 torque , traction control , quick shifter , dual channel abs , USD forks , Slipper clutch , VVA tech and is available for like 2317 USD
This video was made for Indians 🥲💔
TVS has a series of apache models. 125,160,165,200,300 etc
Some more indian bikes for you all to add to the list 😉
1. TVS Apache RTR 200 4v and RR310 (based on BMW G310R )
2. Yamaha FZ25 (Air cooled single cylinder bike looks underpowered on paper but its peppy as hell due to its lightweight 154kg kerb weight)
3. Bajaj pulsar NS200 and RS200 (Engine derived from KTM Duke 200 )
4. Suzuki Gixxer 250 twins (Reliabile and quick)
5. Hero Xpulse 200 4V (Affordable dual sport bike )and xpulse 200T ( Retro modern street bike)
6. KTM Duke 250 ( if 200 was too tame for you then 250 will do)
7. Bajaj pulsar F250 and N250
8. Yamaha R15 and MT15 (Gets VVA technology from its big brother R1)
Note : most of these bikes are sold in Latin America, you can import them
to the 🇺🇸 easily. Most of the bikes here are Air cooled except for ktm Dukes and Bajaj pulsar NS200 and RS200 they are liquid cooled.
Bonus information: Also check out Mutt motorcycles, they make some really good 125cc and 250cc Retro modern bike with Suzuki's Air cooled reliable refined engines . They are British with a Japanese heart .
There's a dude near me (Crystal Lake, IL) who owns a Trail 125. He mounted one of those orange pennants on a rubber pole you see on recumbent bikes on the back, and the frickin mad lad rides it on 31 (which has a speed limit of 55 in places)!
Dr200. 20hp, light weight, low seat, lotta used ones for cheap, responds extremely well to mods.
The v-star 250 was me first bike. I miss it despite it struggling to keep up with traffic up hills. It’s a great bike to learn the basics on and handles well when you take a turn wrong and hit pine straw…
Buy a tdub already yam.
If you want straight up speed with small displacement, nothing beats old 2-stroke bikes
Took a MSF refresher class, a few years ago. (after having an M1 endorsement for 35 years....highly recomend doing that)
Anyway...I rode a brand new Tdub, in class.
Never rode one before.
As soon as class was dismissed, I went to the Yamaha dealer, and bought one, just for shits n giggles.
I have put 22k miles on it, and every time I ride it, it makes me smile.
I ride KTM, 450 and 525, for off road and dual sport rides.
And a Royal Star, in the street.
If times get tough...the Tdub will be my apocalypse bike.
It's super fun, in a goofy way, and bulletproof.
Love my little baby varadero. My first bike, feels big, goes slow with it's 125 vtwin.
Would love to see you do a long guys go on a long journey and brake it up over a couple of 45 minute videos like load the bikes up with camping gear and any thing else you may need and go for a hell of a long ride.
When I was young you could get a license at 14 for up to a 125 in Tennessee. Lots of us had those small enduros and they were fun for junior high kids. Of course, there was significant cheating and you’d see plenty of 175’s, 185’s and 250’s
I own a 2020 MT-125 and I won't lie, it's a load of fun
I started and still own a 125cc here in Ireland, it's unsafe for most road situations, and doesn't have the power to be 100% confident, I'm 17 and been riding for a year on the street as it's easier than a car lisense and cheaper. Next bike will either be a Benelli TRK 502X or HD sportster, not sure if I want a ADV or a cruiser just yet, rn I got a 125 sport bike...if I could call it that, it has the looks... nothing more lol
In 1983 Yamaha's YZ80 had 20 horses I know that the Yammie is a 2 smoker but that is at least 5 more horses than those GSXR FZR AND NINJA yet the sportbikes have almost 50cc more displacement and almost 40 years of technolgy advancements. Wow we have come so far
Yammie has been mentioning the T-dub quite a bit lately, we need to get Spike on one FOR THE MEMES!!
Love my MT-125, super cheap, super easy to drive and still fast enough on the twisty roads
It would be a cool idea if the yam channel went thru a phase where it was strictly city riding for like a month. It'll give some people a different perspective on city riding with all kinds of bikes
"One day in downtown Houston, on a Turbo Busa"
as a teenager i rode a suzuki gn 125. nice little bike perfect for a 15 yr old to learn on.
Having had my full licence here in Australia for over 40 years I’m surprised how many small bikes today which look like would give you heaps of giggles. Love the bikes like the Grom and Trail. 2 bikes we don’t get here in Australia are the Suzuki Vanvan and the Yamaha TW they remind me so much of the old little trail bikes like the Bultacos, Ossas and little Yamahas I was riding in the 70s. Love your work thanks for sharing.
Used my VanVan for work when I worked near where I lived. Then I got a big boy job further up the highway. Driving for almost twice as long as I would over the highway on back roads and exploring on my way home. I already miss the damn thing. Traded it for a copper colored Suzuki bandit 600.
This video could have just been a 30 second clip of a Trail 125.
Underbone motorcycle, dual sport, naked Super Cub, OG ADV bike, it does it all.
I had 3 bikes before my 1000. And stillliterally any time I went WOT I would be grinning ear to ear and saying “this is CRAZY”. Please don’t start on a 1000 😂
Tdubs and Dr 200 are awesome trail bikes. But those that know, know. Those Sg250 have strong little motors. Those Honda Cg230 clones are pretty bullet proof. I put 30k miles on one in 4 years without so much as a hicupp.
The cg230 clone lacks the low end power of the tw200 by alot, makes for a very different kind of ride especially on hill climbs because you have to keep the momentum up alot more
I recently bought the TVS Apache RTR 160 4V red and black ..Its has good corner stability and more than enough power for our Indian roads...
I used to ride a z125 to a buddies house…. About 45 mins but if you take the back roads about 1.5 hours…. Flat i could do 58ish… slight downhill id hit 60 and slight uphill id slow down to about 55ish…. Its wasn’t hard and it did it like every weekend for a couple months
Was thinking that the "Grom Killer" title was going to go to the Benelli Tnt 135, what I personally own and have a ton of fun on, but great vid nontheless!
I was wondering what an actual owner thinks about them. Are there many aftermarket parts for them? Feel pretty solid?
@@willyjimmy8881 I am a beginner rider, but I love mine, and I haven't really needed aftermarket parts yet, but overall everything feels solid and I think with just a few upgrades the OEM version will go a pretty long way
I have an four big bikes but I swear my wifes Vanvan is as quick across town as any of them and a lot of fun.
*sighs dreamily* I want a tdub so bad. So bad. They're just so damn cool.
Me watching this in Europe and going: "Ugh... the only ones out of these we get are the baby sportbikes!"
I'm begging manufacturers and dealerships, bring us the actually fun ones! The Van Van, the Trail, the Navi, the PG-1... why don't we get the fun ones.
And I am saying this as a person who actually owned a 125cc sportbike when I was 18. It wasn't the engine that made me sell it, it was the riding style. I'm sure the leaned forward style works great on a liter bike on the track, or even a 600 on a normal highway. It is however just needless wrist and back pain on a bike that can barely go fast enough to make wind resistance a problem. As a track toy, it was tons of fun, as an everyday bike... hard no. If you're going to get a 125, I honestly recommend getting a scooter over the sportbikes. It'll be more practical, much more comfortable and at those speeds, about as fun to ride.
Yo papa Yamms ,please do a video on Bajaj Pulsar Rs 200 & Ns 200, Honda Cbr250rr, Yamaha R25, kawasaki Ninja Zx25r. I hope you read this and make a video about these bikes, these bikes are famouse around Malaysia & Indonesia. Btw, love your content Papa Yamm 💕
You guys have all the fun there in the US. Here in VN it's actually dumb to buy any bike above 200cc, practically speaking. Yes, we have a license system that separate bikes above and under 175cc, but that's not the reason. The reason that even if you're on a Fireblade you can still only go as fast as 70 kph (45mph) because that's the maximum speed limit for any motorcycle anywhere in the country.
Great video! I'm thinking that "small bikes" (and I don't mean scooters, they're already a "big thing", and probably not 125s either) will be the "next big thing" in motorycling, now that everybody's over the 1700cc (and larger) cruiser craze. And by "big", I just mean that maybe 20% or better of the market for street bikes in North America might be in the 150 - 400cc range. A market where some manufacturers didn't have anything more than a single choice of a 250cc beginner's bike, that grew to 300cc a few years back.
We're heading towards a variety of pure street/commuter hyper-mileage 150/200/250 bikes, dual sports like the true off-road-capable CFR250/300L/Rally and Yammy 400z, I'd love to see the Kawi range of KLR/KLX 250/300/400 models joined by a revived DR350 and maybe an XL350. I'd love to have a TW200, but I went with the budget XR150L this spring. Those bikes can't really change without drastic changes to meet modern emissions rules, hence the "stuck in time" carburetor and drum brake. The TW is an 80's classic that I believe was updated with electric start back in the 90s or such. Now I'm advertising my vStrom 650 that I rode for 5 years after selling my vStrom 1000.
Oh, I bought/tore-down/re-built/rode my first Yammy 50 years ago (well, got it on the rode 49 years ago. Was old enough to get my driver's license 48 years ago. Only had cops pull me off the Trans Canada once when I was 15) so I think its funny that I'm watching "Yammy Noob". Keep the videos coming!
People always talk about starting on these little bikes but I’ve never seen them on the road. The only time I’ve seen small cc bikes were at the MFS class.
The reason for small displacement bike is essentially displacement regulation. Big ass 400+cc is punishing to just about everyone in Asia and most of Europe, whether it's in licensing, tax, or insurance.
In Bangladesh..... Our limit is only 165cc.......Dear Yam please save us!!!!
Great Video, but one small error. There are two Z125 from Kawasaki. The Z125 Pro with 8HP (Grom Clone) and the normal Z125 with 15 HP. You’ve shown pictures of both bikes. The normal Z125 is bigger, and like the Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki Counterparts
yeah noticed it to. i actually own a z125 15hp
@@JMaarten76 Great Bike! I like the Z125 in blue 😺
So weird... I just trade my KTM 500 2017 for a GSX S750... today (21the feb 2022). Nothing wrong with my KTM, but I did what I had to do out there in the bush... well mayby not, I still have my TW200.
I had a choice between my KTM and TW, and I choose my TW.
TVS makes a 200cc Apache. Not a bad little bike...about 21hp. Also has a nifty traffic feature that feeds the motor gas when you let off the clutch in first or 2nd.... you only have to let off the clutch and it automatically cruises at 5mph in 1st or about 10mph on 2nd
Kinda sad the r15 series wasn't included, also the gsx150, cbr150,ktm rc 200, xsr150,klr 150,mt-15, arghhh so many to mention
Under 250cc is a way of life in South East asia
I started on a svartpilen 250 , it's just amazing
you yam. please look up the Yamaha R15. its a baby 150cc R bike mostly sold in asia including india.
"Fact..... goodbye" 😂😅gets me everytime
the T-dub seems to keep its price pretty well, even used its pretty hard to find one under $4500
Nobody seems to sell them. They keep them till they die and pass them down.
@@michaelconran5252 yep. They seem pretty indestructible
@@Smallbore2wheels I have a 1982 Hand a C70 Passport. I play with it in the snow and dirt roads. Beat all to tell, always runs. Those old Japanese aircooled engines just work.
For Indian bike, the Queen of them all is the Bajaj Pulsar NS200 😁 24hp 18lbs of torque
I got only 50 cubes bigger and love mine too! Very characterful small ish bikes
My wife had one of those in Mexico. Soild and reliable little bike. Still confused by 3 different sparkplugs for 1 cylinder. She beat it to hell for 3 years and no issues.
@@Jwthemechanic it's for a better burning of the gas in the cylinder, that one of the main reason why produces 24hp with a 200cc engine, I have one at the moment and I freaking love it.
I don't need to say how awesome the Trail is...you already know...lol
if ya can get one
This guy gets it.
I stared at 3 years old driving my dads Honda CB750FourK! He did the gears and back brake and I did the rest till we came to a stop then he had to grab it cause I couldn’t reach the ground! Then I got a 60cc Honda 2 stroke and I could ride it along just couldn’t reach on one side but I grew into it
Finally, a Video that shows somewhat economical and reasonable options for us people in the Third world.
Should have chucked in a Vespa, they are awesome, last forever and are the most stylish scooter out there
To chime in about the V Star 250. Yes, it has A BIT less vibration than the tiny thumpers, but man, I once test started one at a dealership and that thing buzzed like a vibrator.
A little surprised that Suzuki TU250X was not listed. I rode it as part of MFC with Suzuki GW250. I thought it was a great little cruiser/retro bike.
Video is for under 200cc bikes.
We in Greece, start at 16 with 50cc then 125cc at 18 then 35kW at 20 and any bike we want at 24
I've been waiting for this. I bought a SYMNHT200 because a 400cc is just too expensive in South Africa. Still nice to see other bikes under 250cc to begin on.
MT-125 at £4,700 vs an MT-07 £7,000 both 2022 NEW in the UK. at the price difference its really tempting to just skip the smaller displacement if you have the appropriate license.
being from the uk but moving to the states at 12 it was something i definitely appreciated
Dude, dont wanna sound like THAT guy in the comments, but cb125r literally obliterates the other japanese 125s in pretty much every category ...smiley winky face dont be mad at me almighty Pappa-Daddy Yam
I beg to differ my gsxr 125 has yet to get beat by any other 125 in the catagory unless it's a two stroke then it doesn't really have a chance
Folks the R125 has a naked cousin (that didn't feel right) called MT125.
I grew up watching my father ride motos and I sort of expected him to teach me and he never did but that's okay. I think I'll have to source one of these smaller bikes and just full send it if I ever want to learn...
Firmly believe if someone is green they need to start out on something 150 cc. I have a 200 dual sport that pulls up quite easily and great up steep elevations for someone that weighs 220. lb . Even a 200 CC for most if they have never touched a motorcycle will get them in trouble. You need to learn handling, balance, time to stop of the mechanical determinations/expectiations of the bike. You make a mistake your bones are broken or worse; hell i'd even reccomend someone to get a little 50 cc or 100 just to learn basic handling. going to a 200 - 600 cc is a good jump in terms of acceleration, weight and how the bike handles. When you hit high speeds anything over 100 km per hour let's say the bike behaves a lot differently along with how your body affects the sway and de-acceleration of the vehicle. motorcycles are a lot of fun but you need a solid base first. Other than that - enjoy the endorphine rush, stress releif and feelings of freedom and friendship among other riders.
Hawk 250 and TBR7 are a truly amazing species of bike. 1500 and shipped. Honda cg engine. Love my TBR7
It's an old expression but totally valid. If we're talking the difference of less than 10 pounds between 313 and 320 lbs, that's like drinking a big gulp or bringing a full tool kit (heck, I could stand to lose more than twice that much) The best weight reduction on a motorcycle will almost always come off the rider LOL!
if i wasnt buying my buddy's suzuki GZ250 i might actually grab a San Gabriel 250. it is a cool looking bike. holy cow they even have the SG250 in a nice dark green color! love that.
I am a Van Van 125 owner, its actually a blast to ride about. Im a UK rider and it is my first bike -- Was hoping it made an appearance on this list, so glad it did! The seat is also hella comfortable, could ride it for hours on end :D
I’ve ridden a lot of little bikes as I have been a moto coach a long long time. One of the things that makes me love the TW is it’s size compared to other small bikes. The TU250X is a good learning tool but for myself the bars are a bit narrow. TW is not a powerhouse but it has larger riding triangle and wider bars that offer more room to work.
Even the Honda Nighthawk is better for u-turns than those narrow TU's. I'm hoping the Duke 200 becomes the next MSF workhorse.
@@kylemayer1956 been awhile since we have had Nighthawks but very true. Now a Duke 200, I’ll be in early if those show up!
Selling my 2018 R1 today and picking up a crf300l. Woot!
Yammie greetings from Costa Rica love your videos
Here we have lots of small bikes like honda xr 150, yamaha xtz 150 and many others
Sometimes because of the economy and also for the condición of the streets you cant go very fast without come across some potholes
I imagine thats why the brands have to adapt in every local market
You forgot the ''ZS miedo''
UK: I had a mutt mongrel as my first bike, it was great little bike when it wasn't raining or dark!! Honda cg125 engine, built up in China and repackaged retro aesthetics (Bonneville style) in the England. If I was buying now I'd go for the Xsr125, looked good when I was in the dealership the other day.
Man why am I addicted to ur content??
A decent starter Enduro is the CSC TT 250, it has the same engine as the San Gabriel but doesn't do good in 6in of mud
Getting on the Apache 1604v and revving it up actually feels somewhat like a 300cc bike due to it's bassy exhaust. Hands down best sounding small displacement bike
What country are you from? Because the Apache RTR 200 4v will get you even more bassy exhaust .
You forgot about the duke 125cc.
I have 1 and I must say it's a good starter bike for here in the UK and the max hp for a 125 in the UK is 15hp and it is measured in kW power and your only allowed 11kw of power.
I know I did my cbt on the 28th January 2022 here in South Wales UK.
As I am 45 this year I am going to do my full A licence within the 2 years that a cbt lasts.
The best under 200-250 cc segment in India is a rats race of who sells the most , and tbh TVS apache is just a small part of the market which is lead by hero splendour 100 cc which they have sold like number of stars in galaxy . Our very best Indian sport bike segment in this range is the all mighty pulsar 220f and yzf R15 v3-v4 . And pulsar was too good for its own liking that the bike was unchanged for like 2 decades that it got the update now as pulsar f250 . The all mighty platina puts out minimum of 80 kmpl , TVS apache and pulsars were rivals for a very long time in every cc segment . The bullets and classic 350 offered by royal Enfield are really swarming up the (says 350cc but behaves like 150cc) category . Ktms in India offer 125,200,250,390 which do offer exceptional package though they are regarded as not so reliable and all together have a bad reputation due to rash drivers and squids .I personally own a R15 V3(dark knight ) which has the best in class 155cc supremacy of Yamaha , offering sucha top end Every other 200 cc bike would be shamed . The new rc 200 is on the shelf these days . Now i am gonna buy my second motorcycle as Honda CB 350 RS . I did this comment as there is alot of confusion for YAM about India . Ps - Just send one Kawasaki klr for me . Thanks man appreciate your content.
Guess you haven't seen the R15 V4 and R15M yet huh? The electronics on those are insane for 155cc.
Tvs apache 200 should have been here instead of 160
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