Those kinds of game are real fun, Like Sprocket and Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts For a battleship, there's many nice designs, Like the Kongō/New Mexico with the 356mm guns, but if you want something a bit bigger, there's the Nagato/Colorado (especially the West Virginia with more 127mm DP guns than the Colorado)
Oooh, seeing a Colorado done in FtD would be a real treat. Post-rebuild WeVi would probably be more capable but an interwar configuration of any of the three would be a very cool and unique approach.
Yay! More FtD content on the internet! Looking forward to your campaign playthrough! I completely forgot about the block-by-block spawning, I need to do that more often. Lovely video, lovely ships, the Crossbones is scary as hell, me subscribe now. 😁👍
Hopefully I can bring a bit of a twist to the campaign that people enjoy, I have ideas brewing, and just need to finalize those. Really glad to hear you enjoyed the video! 😃
You might step up to a Battlecruiser instead of a whole Battleship. Maybe do some three gun turrets, focus on packing stuff more into the same space, get some active defenses like CIWS and Lasers. Taking a smaller step up might help with learning those components so that when you move up to a battleship it's as deadly as you think it should be. I'd also love to see some of the finer details. FtD is nothing if not a game of details. How are your engines set up? What do your APS shells look like and why? How good is your tetris? What exactly does your armor layering look like, and how does it vary across different parts of the ship?
And don’t rely on air pumps to float. The solution I always go with is wood spam throughout the citadel - it gives cheap hit points that help the boat float
9:54 ahh, the infamous top-heavy Japanese ships 🙈 Yes for Kongou as it's a battlecruiser! After that Fuso/Ise with 12 guns if Yamato isn't the way to go~
Looking pretty good. Might I make a couple suggestions? 1. Supercavitating shells to hit things underwater, 2. Missile decoys! Radar & sonar decoys will save your bacon!
The designation heavy or light for a cruiser isn't related to its displacement and size, but the gun caliber, In USN, if a cruiser carry 203mm gun, it's considered a heavy cruiser, if it carries 152mm guns, a light cruiser
@@PatchBits FtD scale breaks from real-scale in a few ways. There's nothing stopping you from making a fleet wholly comprised of real-scale ships, but you may find yourself strapped for cash in a campaign setting, especially in the early game.
Frankly if you're gonna go for campaign, you'll wanna invest in a solid freighter design. Something large with a lot of storage space, doesn't need to be fast, probably has only just enough defenses to plink at a plane or two such as a single large flak gun with a couple smaller machineguns, and counter incoming missiles with decoys, all of this while being vaguely cheap enough to field and ferry resources to and from locations or just serving as an overall repair/resupply auxiliary ship. Try a Liberty Cargo ship, for example. Or if you still need semi-cheap firepower, try going for a submarine early on so enemies will struggle to hit you with armaments that aren't depth charges or torpedoes, like a Type VIIc or Gato class.
One thing I'd recommend for a CIWS system against CRAM that I find works really well is a APS of 100mm (50 if you don't have a lot of space) with a AP head, a solid warhead or two and stabilizers (1, 2 or 3 stabilizers, depends on what you wanna use), after that its all about fine tuning for if you want a rapid fire variant like a Goalkeeper or Phalanx or fire moderately but hit hard like a bofors, if you perfect the method you can place at least 2 on your ship, one on the fore and one of the aft, and it should cover you fairly well, alternatively you can take the Yamato approach and stick quad simple weapons everywhere.
All the 20mm, 40mm, and 50.cal guns are wired up as CIWS, and there's also a small interceptor missile array at the back. It's definitely not perfect, but it exists lol.
@@PatchBits That's fair mate, when I was doing my own CIWS stuff I found you'll need a bit more dakka to deal with the bigger CRAM shells, let alone multiple of them.
Isn’t the Kongo class a Battle cruiser tho so you could have a ship like the fuso class or Nagato class but all the same it’s awesome seeing from the depths content keep it up
Hey I made a light cruiser a tenryuu class she can one on one the rapier from dwg I think she's a good starter craft if you have the resources for her if you wanna take a look Also you can take and use jets to keep your ship from rolling over with mimics that are .0005 bigger then the jets to hide them
Oh, I didn't get to guess what ship she is:( even if the fourth turret would maybe confuse me. Now when it comes to what to build next.......I have a few ideas. I'm not sure if a battleship is the best idea. But perhaps something in the middle. Large cruisers like Alaska or battlecruisers like renown maybe a better idea. Another ship could be graff spee. She could be that ship that beings a fair bit of firepower those 11" guns. However she could be cheaper than the before mentioned type of ships if you end up really needing the firepower.
I wonder how you'd handle the building of a Modernized Battleship Big guns and thick armor With missiles, CIWS, maybe torpedos or a Helicopter Pad with said helicopter Something a bit more towards the 70s and 80s compared to a lot of this fleet But Quite useful
Personally I'd enjoy seeing hms royal oak give it thick armor to absorb damage and let the other ships chip in some making the other ships not obsolete once you get em
@@ascspeedywalker4778 They still exist and function like they used to on crafts that already have them, they just can't be placed anymore. Although, I don't know if you can use prefabs to copy and paste them or not.
Sorry if you get asked this a lot but do you think you'll ever return to FTD? I really enjoy your content and think the FTD community could always do with more quality videos like yours. Much love either way!
Ill be honest (and accept the hate this comment will bring) the Yamato was a very powerful Super Dreadnought but, in terms of destructive power vs cost/weight/size it was one of the most inefficient warships ever made.
Were they? I'm aware of the generally horrendous efficiency of ww2 era German ships, but I'm yet to hear anyone describe the Yamatos as inefficient. They seem to have been a modern ships in most fundamental regards. But I have no idea about costs tbh
@@tommeakin1732 This got kinda long, so TL;DR at the end. Despite the thick armour, the quality of the steel was bad by ww1 standards. The onboard anti-air was abysmal (I'm sure you see how that was a problem). The fire control system was almost solely optical. Against an Iowa, which has armor of the same effective thickness if not better, it would have almost no chance. The Iowa could land entire volleys of rounds into the yamato because of its radar system before the yamato could even know what was attacking it. The biggest problem though is that the Yamato can't hit what it's crew can't see, while the Iowas could consistently hit targets beyond the horizon. And since the Iowas were faster, the Yamato would never be able to effectively fire at it. The Yamato was a LOT cheaper than the Iowas were, though a lot of the difference can be attributed to the poor build quality the the yamato. As far as efficiency goes, the Yamato fought in one battle where it might have sank two destroyers. Most of its time was spent in dry docks for repairs or docked as a fancy hotel for higher ups in the japanese navy. TL;DR Due to it being used as a glorified hotel, it was a huge waste of money, but more importantly for the Japanese, it was a huge waste of resources.
It's quite hard to get the ship to be effective in game with the ship at a realistic waterline. It was much closer before I added the heavy armour, but it was kinda needed.
Gods I miss seeing From the Depths content, I joined during your Sprocket boom so I'm so happy to find out you do FtD content
Those kinds of game are real fun,
Like Sprocket and Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts
For a battleship, there's many nice designs,
Like the Kongō/New Mexico with the 356mm guns, but if you want something a bit bigger, there's the Nagato/Colorado (especially the West Virginia with more 127mm DP guns than the Colorado)
Oooh, seeing a Colorado done in FtD would be a real treat. Post-rebuild WeVi would probably be more capable but an interwar configuration of any of the three would be a very cool and unique approach.
Yay! More FtD content on the internet! Looking forward to your campaign playthrough!
I completely forgot about the block-by-block spawning, I need to do that more often.
Lovely video, lovely ships, the Crossbones is scary as hell, me subscribe now. 😁👍
Hopefully I can bring a bit of a twist to the campaign that people enjoy, I have ideas brewing, and just need to finalize those. Really glad to hear you enjoyed the video! 😃
@@PatchBitsreally going for the quality over quantity huh?
You might step up to a Battlecruiser instead of a whole Battleship. Maybe do some three gun turrets, focus on packing stuff more into the same space, get some active defenses like CIWS and Lasers. Taking a smaller step up might help with learning those components so that when you move up to a battleship it's as deadly as you think it should be.
I'd also love to see some of the finer details. FtD is nothing if not a game of details. How are your engines set up? What do your APS shells look like and why? How good is your tetris? What exactly does your armor layering look like, and how does it vary across different parts of the ship?
And don’t rely on air pumps to float. The solution I always go with is wood spam throughout the citadel - it gives cheap hit points that help the boat float
Bismarck, Bismarck, Bismarck!
good video =) , you could think about adding towed decoys to help against the torpedoes.
Completely agree on the Kongo idea, maybe the Yamato (or one of those WoW yamato looking crazy things) could come later as a super battleship
9:54 ahh, the infamous top-heavy Japanese ships 🙈
Yes for Kongou as it's a battlecruiser! After that Fuso/Ise with 12 guns if Yamato isn't the way to go~
Looking pretty good. Might I make a couple suggestions? 1. Supercavitating shells to hit things underwater, 2. Missile decoys! Radar & sonar decoys will save your bacon!
i would say maybe go for a north carolina class battleship,bismark class or king George V class beautiful looking ships
For a battleship, especially a starting one. I’d go for a more early dreadnought class. Maybe a Bayern Class, or Arizona Class battleship.
"Heavy cruiser" absolutely massive
If we assume 1 block = 1m, this is to scale with the aoba
The designation heavy or light for a cruiser isn't related to its displacement and size, but the gun caliber,
In USN, if a cruiser carry 203mm gun, it's considered a heavy cruiser, if it carries 152mm guns, a light cruiser
Press v to see her length
@@PatchBits FtD scale breaks from real-scale in a few ways. There's nothing stopping you from making a fleet wholly comprised of real-scale ships, but you may find yourself strapped for cash in a campaign setting, especially in the early game.
Nice to see more from the dephts from this channel.
Fuck yeah heavy cruiser heavy cruiser heavy cruiser heavy cruiser heavy cruiser!! I’m so fucking hyped I just punched a hole in my wall
PatchBits, my beloved,
Thank
You may not make the craziest ships, but they are beautiful
Another great ship. Keep up the excellent work. Would love to see a pre dreadnought like the Asahi.
HELL YEAH FTD IS BACK
Frankly if you're gonna go for campaign, you'll wanna invest in a solid freighter design. Something large with a lot of storage space, doesn't need to be fast, probably has only just enough defenses to plink at a plane or two such as a single large flak gun with a couple smaller machineguns, and counter incoming missiles with decoys, all of this while being vaguely cheap enough to field and ferry resources to and from locations or just serving as an overall repair/resupply auxiliary ship. Try a Liberty Cargo ship, for example.
Or if you still need semi-cheap firepower, try going for a submarine early on so enemies will struggle to hit you with armaments that aren't depth charges or torpedoes, like a Type VIIc or Gato class.
One thing I'd recommend for a CIWS system against CRAM that I find works really well is a APS of 100mm (50 if you don't have a lot of space) with a AP head, a solid warhead or two and stabilizers (1, 2 or 3 stabilizers, depends on what you wanna use), after that its all about fine tuning for if you want a rapid fire variant like a Goalkeeper or Phalanx or fire moderately but hit hard like a bofors, if you perfect the method you can place at least 2 on your ship, one on the fore and one of the aft, and it should cover you fairly well, alternatively you can take the Yamato approach and stick quad simple weapons everywhere.
All the 20mm, 40mm, and 50.cal guns are wired up as CIWS, and there's also a small interceptor missile array at the back. It's definitely not perfect, but it exists lol.
@@PatchBits That's fair mate, when I was doing my own CIWS stuff I found you'll need a bit more dakka to deal with the bigger CRAM shells, let alone multiple of them.
If you ever build a Yamato, make the Space Battleship Yamato. Loads of lasers and things.
I think the HMS Rodney would be really cool for battleship.
And her unconventional gun layout could be very good as a half-frontside in FtD!
Isn’t the Kongo class a Battle cruiser tho so you could have a ship like the fuso class or Nagato class but all the same it’s awesome seeing from the depths content keep it up
Hey I made a light cruiser a tenryuu class she can one on one the rapier from dwg I think she's a good starter craft if you have the resources for her if you wanna take a look
Also you can take and use jets to keep your ship from rolling over with mimics that are .0005 bigger then the jets to hide them
Oh, I didn't get to guess what ship she is:( even if the fourth turret would maybe confuse me.
Now when it comes to what to build next.......I have a few ideas.
I'm not sure if a battleship is the best idea. But perhaps something in the middle. Large cruisers like Alaska or battlecruisers like renown maybe a better idea.
Another ship could be graff spee. She could be that ship that beings a fair bit of firepower those 11" guns. However she could be cheaper than the before mentioned type of ships if you end up really needing the firepower.
I wonder how you'd handle the building of a Modernized Battleship
Big guns and thick armor
With missiles, CIWS, maybe torpedos or a Helicopter Pad with said helicopter
Something a bit more towards the 70s and 80s compared to a lot of this fleet
But Quite useful
FTD yay grabs brew!
big boat.
Looking forward to the campaign! Hope to see some more artistic freedom in the design to make them perform a bit better for their cost
Airships when? Also glad for more FTD content :)
Flak has hidden negative modifiers on just about everything, I'd not recommend using it ^^
Instead of your next ship be based on a kongo class Battlecruiser you should base it on a Kaiser class battleship
Hello patch
Hi!
Personally I'd enjoy seeing hms royal oak give it thick armor to absorb damage and let the other ships chip in some making the other ships not obsolete once you get em
Keep up the good work. Love FTD content
......................battleship? battlecruiser? those would be nice to add.
I thought you abandoned it! Huzzah!
discovered you through FTD, want more
Good to see that Sprocket and FTD have crossover.
Also, how many hours do you have in FTD?
I'm with the other guy in chat I would seriously love to see a Colorado class battleship the west virginia has always been my favorite battleship
I'd like to see you build something crazy and random not based off of anything historical
From the Depths!
So I'd recommend using detablades to help keep them upright if they start to flood
Those don’t exist anymore
@@lanej5828 welp there goes my main aircraft XD
@@ascspeedywalker4778 They still exist and function like they used to on crafts that already have them, they just can't be placed anymore. Although, I don't know if you can use prefabs to copy and paste them or not.
Sorry if you get asked this a lot but do you think you'll ever return to FTD? I really enjoy your content and think the FTD community could always do with more quality videos like yours. Much love either way!
Pls upload more form the depths
It looks like a Kongo class heavy cruiser
I'm waiting for the next ship to be built but it has been 10 months...
USS Nevada and make it unsinkable. XD
Perhaps an Iowa?
Ill be honest (and accept the hate this comment will bring) the Yamato was a very powerful Super Dreadnought but, in terms of destructive power vs cost/weight/size it was one of the most inefficient warships ever made.
Were they? I'm aware of the generally horrendous efficiency of ww2 era German ships, but I'm yet to hear anyone describe the Yamatos as inefficient. They seem to have been a modern ships in most fundamental regards. But I have no idea about costs tbh
@@tommeakin1732 This got kinda long, so TL;DR at the end.
Despite the thick armour, the quality of the steel was bad by ww1 standards.
The onboard anti-air was abysmal (I'm sure you see how that was a problem). The fire control system was almost solely optical.
Against an Iowa, which has armor of the same effective thickness if not better, it would have almost no chance. The Iowa could land entire volleys of rounds into the yamato because of its radar system before the yamato could even know what was attacking it. The biggest problem though is that the Yamato can't hit what it's crew can't see, while the Iowas could consistently hit targets beyond the horizon. And since the Iowas were faster, the Yamato would never be able to effectively fire at it.
The Yamato was a LOT cheaper than the Iowas were, though a lot of the difference can be attributed to the poor build quality the the yamato.
As far as efficiency goes, the Yamato fought in one battle where it might have sank two destroyers. Most of its time was spent in dry docks for repairs or docked as a fancy hotel for higher ups in the japanese navy.
TL;DR Due to it being used as a glorified hotel, it was a huge waste of money, but more importantly for the Japanese, it was a huge waste of resources.
I shouldn't watch these videos, you're going to make me want to try the game again and that won't go well.
Please just get to the campaign already 🙏
Would like a campaign
PLANES AND TP BOATS PLZ.
Not to be rude. But I think your ships sit way too low in the water. There should be a whole lot more distance between the deck and water line.
It's quite hard to get the ship to be effective in game with the ship at a realistic waterline. It was much closer before I added the heavy armour, but it was kinda needed.
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