One of the reason I love bloodborne is ALL weapons are viable (at least for pve) that’s why their are less of them, it’s not like dark souls where there are like a hundred weapons but only 40 of them are actually usable. With the right build any weapon can be used, hence why they all have their own unique move set.
Only weapon I'd have to disagree with that sentiment on is the wheel, thing is only really good for pvp and only so because its attacks are wonky as sin
The fact that weapons in BB are so unique is a huge plus for exploration and game progression. I hate it when I discover "just another straight sword" in DS but every weapon find is so exciting in BB.
@@chromasus9983 I only have faith in the stake driver because pve a charged r1 after oiling an enemy can shred chunks of a bosses hp, otherwise yes it's very hard to use
Yeah... The church pick is the best all around. Its got reach, speed ,and pretty high damage. I remember being shocked how good it was after leveling it up on a welm.
Me: "In this playthrough I will try out another weapon..." Also me: ...farming 20.000 blood echoes in early game to get Ludwigs Holy Blade as soon as possible...
Its hilarious how many bloodborne noobs just naturally gravitate to the LHB in their first playthough and then act like "Hey guys, have you heard of this ludwig's sword?? Its low key pretty viable." It more functional as a crutch than the literal Cane based weapon LMAO. I love it.
@@austenishoss Yea every video and post that I saw (even after comming into the game a few years late) was just meming on the spear. I'm still not a huge fan of its design and move set but there is no denying how strong it can be built for pve. The effin yeet spear lol.
I remember using saw spear to cheese gascoigne and then using it for the rest of the game my first run I don't use it much anymore but now I'm thinking I wanna play NG and do arcane build
@@ArgenteonYT I'm currently running a pure arcane build and wish I would've done a bit more research on the saw spear before hand. Saw cleaver is always nice and buffing it with the fire or bolt gems still works wonders but the extra stat boosts the spear has would've been better. Now i'm gonna do some grinding and level it up to +10 and finish up the DLC and see how it feels.
The Reiterpallasch (not correct spelling) does that as well, but it's ranged option can double as a parry. You can even melee in it's gun form. Even when you're meleeing during it's gun form, it's still pretty effective due to how fast the normal attacks are. The Burial Blade used to be my favorite Trick Weapon, but now it has to be this. It can parry, thrust (kin killer), slice, shoot. It does everything. It's a one-tool arsenal.
As a beginning weapon yes but depending on the build and gems it becomes a mid tier weapon. Its really good but can be greatly out damaged for example like the holy moonlight sword has the highest AR in the game. It's extremely powerful but can't be buffed it depends on what ur using what build ur going for. But having a weapon like the HMS (holy moonlight) with its very powerful attack with a secondary weapon thats able to be buffed with elements is really useful and negates that u can't buff the HMS. By all means the saw spear is a very good weapon if built right but it can be out damaged later in the game.
@@ayman___16 yeah I agree they are good. I wouldn't say they are top teir when it comes to being heavily out damaged tho. I personally don't use them unless its the beginning of the game then as soon as I can I swtich to a different weapon but they are very good just there are weapons that outclass them
@@nohomeobromeo4973 what weapons outclass Saws? I'm interested, since both Saws can reach 680-700 AR on a high-end Quality Build on BL120, literally no other weapon has that balance of very high AR to speed ratio in addition to having Serrated
I feel like I have fallen into a wormhole back to 2015 where people though the chikage was overpowered, endurance was a good stat, and no heal duels ruled the land. Thank you for the nostalgia trip. 10/10 video, would r1 in frontier again.
When I saw that my opponent had the chikage, I instantly stopped moving realizing my inevitable death, I could only wait until it comes closer and closer quaking in fear. The chikage killed my family and my friends. The chikage did every atrocity in history, fear the chikage and its power. When I was confronted by someone with 99 endurance and a chikage, I instantly came everywhere at its mighty power. I learned to fear the old blood that day, it made me drip my own blood into a puddle on the floor, god save me when my opponent whipped out his massive, engorged, bulging chikage, I pissed my pants.
The saw spear's R2 is my favorite in the game, aside from burial blade's. The follow up upward slash sends even merciless watcher flying.the transformation attack is great for limbs, just ask Amelia 😉
Rusty 1 year ago: "I've never ever used a weapon I believe in as little as this meat cleaver looking atrocity right here." Rusty Here: "So hey guys the Saw Spear is pretty dam rad and here's why."
A few months ago I got back into this and chose to beef up my Threaded Cane. Being able to roleplay as a Belmont as well as just chewing through certain enemies was a dream.
Threaded cane is a pretty darn cool weapon, tbh, an its got one hell of a moveset. I have still to use it extensively for a playthrough, but I won't disagree that the Cane is a great weapon.
I just watched that video and this video was recommended As relaxed sounding as he is in this video comparatively, I have to wonder if saw spear fanatics broke into his home, drugged him, and forced him to make THIS video for his snark in that one lol
This is why I love the Church Pick because, as you said, it does it all. Useful damage types and a crazy versatile moveset. The Threaded Cane for similar reasons. You really can cover all possible encounters with those weapons.
Church pick: -Buffable -Thrust -Range -Low stamina cost -Speed -Good scaling -Durability With blood gems it's no contest the best overall PvE weapon in the game.
I like to see some recognition to Saw Spear at least after years. The most underrated and forgotten weapon, but one of the most handy and reliable in "Underrated" list and all game. In my time i made a whole character to explore dungeons with Saif and Saw Spear. The next Insight i wish for people to gain is understanding how beautiful and smart the Beast Cutter is.
I think the saif is better off to use against human type enemies, like watchers and hunters. The saw spear is way more diverse, and very deadly against beasts, especially with fire blood gems.
I began playing Bloodborne for the first time about 3 weeks ago, and I have fallen in love with the Saw Spear. Appreciate the vindication and the info this video provides.
With respect, I don't get why this dude is saying it's underrated at all. It's widely considered one of the best weapons in the game because of its moveset.
Same here. I bought a ps4 2 weeks ago, just to play this game. I'm at the end of my first playthrough and I haven't used anything else other than the saw spear (except for Rom, I used ludwig's holy blade for that fight, but that's it). It was totally worth getting this game, I'm having a really great time playing it.
@@walnutking92 it has only become more enjoyed recently. To this day, I and many others see it for the mediocre side grade that it is. Underrated means "not liked enough as it probably should be" I don't think its underrated not only because I think it's actually become overrated, but also because it got its thunder.
I played through the game mainly using the cane and i did not regret it, it felt nice having a close range weapon for enemies i was confident against, and a longer range hit (when in whip form) when i had no clue what i was up against, it especaily helped me take down the true final boss on my first attempt even though i was panicing thanks to the 1 hp move that stopped me from healing
the other good thing about the spear is that because it scales with skill more than strength, you can pump points into that first and get better visceral damage earlier
This is probably my favorite game ever, I've played it multiple but only last year did I decide to do a complete run, meaning all bosses, killing all enemies at least once, getting all weapons, outfits, runes and items, and even though I though it might turn into a chore it became my favourite playthrough as of yet, spending the time on learning the attack patterns of enemies I usually skipped at all costs (sharks, bloodsuckers etc) reminded me of why the combat is so great, searching every nook and cranny makes obvious the immense effort that went into the level design, in sort, I fell in love with the game again
First playthrough was like genocide run for me, I was hunting down and killing all beasts and bosses, few weeks later I find out most bosses were OPTIONAL😩 no matter, it's been more fun for me and challenging to actually hunt down everything
3 views, 161 likes, and 41 comments. Good to see UA-cam hasn’t changed. But it’s better to see Rusty joining the hunt again, so, in proper Hunter fashion. “May the good blood guide your way.”
@Gian Luca okay buddy, I beat the game in 2015. Been there since Demon Souls. It’s not hard to learn which Hunter tools work and which don’t. Maybe go back to the Lab NOOb
1st playthrough I benched the cleaver for kirkhammer and then ludwig's sword, then in NG+ I purchased The Old Hunters and swapped to Moonlight, and then in NG++ I wanted something different so I took only the cleaver with me. When I fought Amelia (I skipped cleric beast this time then looped back) I realized I had stumbled onto something. She got absolutely shredded by the cleaver. Yes I had a high modifier by this point, but for it being NG++ I never thought it'd wreck house like that. I used it for the rest of that run and I have to say, it was an immensely wild ride. I got up to NG++++++ on that character, and the cleaver never left my equip slots. Spear wasn't my cup of tea. It wasn't as slow as the big weapons I was used to but it wasn't as fast as cleaver, so it just sat in an odd spot for me where I couldn't quite get its timing down. Touched cane once, never again.
I've been playing non-stop for the past two weeks. Just wish I had more friends who played this as well. Co-op is the best part of these games. Bloodborne is the best From Software game. Period.
Don't forget, weapons that deal thrust damage also scale your visceral damage sneakily. Weapons without thrust do not do this, but a weapon with thrust damage applies the scaling to your viscerals (which do thrust damage regardless of what weapon you use) so the saw spear is better despite its lower base damage because your viscerals are better than if you are using the cleaver. So even if you use a weapon that doesn't deal thrust, you should have a second weapon that does for things you want to backstab or shoot
This is incorrect*. In fact, the Cleaver is better for Visceral Attacks against beasts because it applies serration to your Visceral Attack while in saw form, and the Spear doesn't**. *Your right hand weapon's blood gems apply to visceral attacks, so if you equip Thrust Attack Up gems that will increase your visceral damage. That would be true regardless of the weapon benefiting from it. **For some reason, if a weapon has serration/righteous damage in both forms, the bonus doesn't apply to viscerals. But if the weapon has the bonus in only one form, and you have the weapon in that form, the bonus does apply. Hence why the closed Cleaver applies serration but the Saw doesn't. The best weapon for visceral attacks is arguably the Threaded Cane while transformed. Not only is it serrated, it also gets +15% Skill scaling and that carries over to the visceral too.
Rusty, I THRIVE on indulging upon the obsessions of others. The way you articulate your love of this stuff especially enthralls me. Say all you want about it, I'm here for it even if others said it already.
Nah. Saw Spear ain't underrated. It's one of the despicable weapons if you're using it in PVP, you will be killed and POINTED DOWN for your try-hard. The other one is Saw Cleaver.
Saw Spear is indeed underrated, because most people don't understand how deep the Untricked R1 of the Saw Spear is. The average people plays with the shallow, overpowered Ludwig's Holy Blade or Chikage instead of the deep, thought-provoking Saw Spear. When people use Skill instead of Quality, I cried, since Quality is an often misunderstood build. There's just so much thought poured into Quality Builds, like the +65 Strength Scaling Gem obtained from the dreaded Headless Bloodletting Beast or the intricate Gem that has 27.2% Physical Attack Up from the much-praised Merciless Watchers Boss
The +65 Strength is OP, but my Kirk Hammer is sadly lacking, a fully charged r2 does less damage than my Chikage. I think this is why people use more of those weapons, Chikage can be a plus 3 and be OP.
@@Patches_Gaming kirk hammer is underrated, you must use 3x32.6% bloodtinge gems for MAXIMUM DAMAGE of kirkhammer. But to be honest with you, nothing beats chakage in terms of damage
Honestly this video warmed my heart, ive been in love with bloodborne ever since game grumps played through it. And i had been noticing a decline in content being made about it.. obviously i cant fault anyone, do what makes you happiest, but its really nice to see people making videos about this game again :D
Worth noting church pick does not have a serrated multiplier. It is actually unique in having the "beast hunter" modifier instead. This is the same effect as found on gems, for example "atk vs beast down" curse, which is a negative beasthunter effect. Beast hunter is actually applicable to more enemies than serration. For example, labyrinth madmen are affected by beasthunter and not serration. Also worth noting that despite saw spear's greater scaling at max stats it will still have lesser AR than the cleaver. This is true of arcane conversion as well. Spear's main advantage is its inherently larger hitboxes in untricked form, despite having the same moveset. The tricked moveset comes down to personal preference, as you mentioned with the thrust. Saw spear's slower tricked form is balanced by having higher multipliers than in it's untricked form, while the Cleaver's tricked mode has lower multipliers. Your content is a lot of fun an easy to follow, I'm a big fan, but please please try to do your research in the future
Saw spear also deals serration damage on its saw-to-spear L1, unlike the cleaver. So that's an advantage if you prefer to end combos on a single L1 press. Both deal serration when transforming back into a saw, and the cleaver-to-saw L1 hits harder than the spear's, so if you like to do two L1s back to back they break even.
I miss when Rusty was like this. Calm, clear, and actually made sense. I still enjoy his content nowadays, but I miss when he took the time to have a calmer and more sensible tone rather than just shouting insults into the mic because a weapon is slightly underwhelming.
I'm gonna be *that* nerd: the serrated damage bonus is 20% for all weapons that get it, but the righteous bonus is 20% for Church Pick (both modes; both modes also get the serrated bonus) and Threaded Cane (untransformed), 30% for Logarius' Wheel in both forms, and 50% for the silver sword (Kirkhammer, Ludwig's Holy Blade), transformed Holy Blade, and both forms of the Moonlight Holy Blade. Also, nothing in the game resists thrust damage-Kin-type enemies in particular are disastrously weak to it, but *literally every other enemy in the game* has thrust as its lowest physical resistance. As an aside, the weapons that deal bonus righteous damage are the straight swords, with the exception of Cainhurst's Reiterpallasch.
Yay 4 Bloodborne. I recently decided to get the platinum (finally) and I've been playing around with all the weapons. Can't use the Moonlight Great sword 🗡️ for everything.
I really love the threaded cane early game, but switch over to the Powder Kegs' Rifle Spear as soon as I can get my hands on it. The rifle is a weapon that I don't see many people use, but I personally love that I can 2 hand it all day no problem while also having access to it's firing mode
Next time someone asks me to describe a pick weapon to them I'll simply say that it's a pole with a single huge saw-tooth attached to the end obviously lmao
I'm not the first, and I'm certainly not the last to say it, but I'll say it anyway. Every single weapon in Bloodborne is easily memorable. There is so much backstory, so much character to each weapon. I mean, from the starting weapons alone, we get an Axe that transforms into a Halberd, a meat cleaver specifically designed to hunt beasts that transforms into a long meat hook, and a cane that turns into a whip! Whoever thought of the Threaded cane is a genius! Then later on, you get access to the Rifle Spear, which is basically a gun and a spear stuck together, and a fist weapon that shoots stakes from it's unrealistically large mechanism when you stab people with it! There's a sword that suddenly becomes a giant hammer! Or a sword that transforms into an even bigger sword. A sword that transforms into two swords, a katana because Miyazaki doesn't care if we're in Victorian Era England, he's gotta have a katana, even at least one! Every weapon is so crazy, so unique, the entire weapon list is a colorful mess of weapons that are so interesting... I love everything about it.
I completed the game just this January and I gotta say the saw spear was the weapon I kept returning to, even when I was inclined to build up something different. Something about transforming it mid-fight just feels so good.
Ludwig's Holy Blade is super hard to go past, 1 hand and 2 handed that thing is a force to be reckoned with. I still remember my first playthrough when I finally found the blood rock and upgraded it to +10 for the first time I felt invincible walking around with a +10 weapon =P
I confused myself with the word under-used with underrated xD I get it, it's not that many people don't use it it's because there are much preferred builds than what the saw spear is used in
I used the saw spear on every build at some point, in every playthrough. Ol' Reliable. Gems can change it to fitting every niche. My first playthrough was on a 99 ARC build, the Saw Spear was all I needed for the whole game. It is fast, with good scaling. The transformed R1 starts at a fast sweep, which is fantastic for those dang raven groups. The poke R2 has great range, and thrust is the best damage type. Almost nothing resists it. Serrated is just a great bonus for having it on both forms, instead of the Cleaver only on one. And yes, that R1 L1 combo is just so wonderfully good.
Honestly if I knew those subtle things about the weapons when I started I'd have been far better off. You just dont get that kind if depth in most games, even other FromSoft titles, so you dont look for it.
I've never used the cleaver, always the spear. Double serrated plus a stab attack for those brainsuckers? Yes please. Best serrated fire arcane weapon imo.
They are for diff builds actually so if your a str build you should use the cleaver but skill builds would be better with the spear as it has better skill scaling
@@123NERDZ Yeah I guess that explains why it didn’t work with my strength build. It’s weird that the weapon is a strength based weapon when it’s faster than the spear one which is slower. I just thought that the saw spear was just an awkward slower version of the saw cleaver so I didn’t use it.
I hope Rusty never reads this cause it is cringe af, but honestly I could listen to this man read a fucking phonebook and be riveted. Dudes got a talent for oration and it shows.
I remember when I got the 3 weapons in the beginning and testing them out. The first thing that drew me towards saw spear was how quick the side to side swing attack was, the thing that made it my only weapon was the trick range and it's stun locking.
It was definitely the R1 speed that made it my go-to currently (on my first play through right now). Made dealing with those goddamn werewolves MUCH more manageable because you can just overwhelm them with the speed of the attacks.
Another huge advantage in my opinion for the SS over the cleaver, Is that having to invest in skill rather than strength, you get visceral damage up much more, and more quiclky, through your leveling ups
Hunter Axe and Saw Spear is my current favorite "beginning-of-the-game" loadout. You've got big hits and long range on one end, and big spikey serrated poke stick of doom on the other end that can cleave beasts like a Thanksgiving ham.
Um... the Saw Spear isn't underappreciated at all. Anyone who actually really knows the game knows that it's the best weapon in the game overall, and is better than the Cleaver. So...
Anybody else starting a completely new character out of the blue after not playing for several months? I know exactly what you feel about the feeling of coming back home bro. A hoonter must hoont after all
Saw Spear is my go to choice against literally any beast ennemy wether they are boss or mob. That 20% dammage bonus from seration dammages is fucking neat yo.
When I create a new character first thing I do is run for the spear. Get a weapon and start hunting without having to go to the dream. I have the goal of defeating Gascoigne before going to the dream but my lack of skills and a Perry weapon have prevented me so far.
Lately, my favourite underrated weapon has been Threaded Cane because it's a great pick for both skill and arcane builds. And the per-point damage increase in its skill investment is insane. Also, I love the fact that its R2 whip attack can almost hit anything regardless of the target's stature. This is especially true against bosses, since the whip's heavy strike can hit the head of every boss.
As someone who has played Arcane extensively, Arcane scaling only affects physical damage, not any form of elemental damage. Putting Arcane gems on a pure physical damage weapon like the Saw Spear (making it a Conversion weapon), adds the same arcane damage regardless of whether the weapon has an A or C scaling in Arcane. It's newly converted arcane damage will depend entirely on your own Arcane stat, independent of the weapon's scaling. Moreover, the physical damage you get from a weapon with very high Arcane scaling (e.g Ludwig's), is far lower than the damage from other stat scaling. Arcane scaling on a weapon is something that should be completely ignored when deciding on what to use in a build. You can use literally anything with the right gems and high Arcane. In general, hybrid weapons like Tonitrus deal far less damage in a pure Arcane build than a Conversion weapon (pure physical with elemental gems). With hybrids, you want stats like 50 Arcane 50 Strength. An example of my 99 Arcane build: Beasthunter Saif with Bolt Gems for Kin - Beast Cutter with Fire Gems for beasts (benefits from serrated). I don't bother with Arcane weapons, as a boss susceptible to Arcane damage will get obliterated by A Call Beyond anyway.
This is very interesting, tho, I have mixed feelings about this design choice tbh. Completely hiding a 20% damage buff just behind some vague descriptions and the design of the weapon is... questionable, to say the least. I never would've guessed such a strong modifier, simply because the game is already giving me so many statistical informations. Why would it withhold something else?
It's very weird, especially because the weapons do have two little icons with value 100 in the description, representing beasts and kin: when you equip something like the golden gem from Amelia, the value with the yellow beast icon goes up. They could have just set the serrated weapons with a base value of 120 next to that icon
@@pilot3605 they reason they didn’t is because it’s not a damage stat, it’s a multiplier. Serrated only works on curtain enemies that’s why it’s not a stat.
Id played dark souls one, rung both bells and killed smough/orenstein by the time i picked up bloodborne, but the game had never really sucked me in. Bloodborne was cool, exhilariating in fact, after id beaten cleric beast after *3 days* and hundreds of attempts. Gasgoine and BSB took significantly less, and i used the chalice dungeons to get a giant scythe. I was dissapointed by Burial Blades damage, until i spent about. Idk, four hours straight? Running from start to end, no shortcuts through forbidden woods, killing every snake head, big snake ball and normal dude along my path in an absolute *shower* of blood using its moveset. Bloodborne really let me fall in love with fromsoft games, and itll always be my favorite because of that :)
I liked it at first but after hundreds of hours I find other weapons more appealing to use, specially if we talk about movesets, for example Rakuyo. Also, I came back to Saw Spear as my easy-going weapon. And if I want crowd control here and there I go with the Burial Blade. It's a matter of taste but I was bored of CP despite having all the damage bonuses. At the end bonuses don't provide anything exciting to the gameplay anyway. That said, I also feel CP was always underrated and due to the differenced forms, okish movesets and bonuses it's easily on the top 3 of best weapons, having in mind the effectivity and versatility.
When choosing between Cleaver and Spear for Arcane build: 1. Both weps get basically the same damage with arcane, Cleaver pulling ahead a FEW points (Not super major) www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/72hlt1/new_version_of_character_planner_now_has_all_the/ If you wish to test your damage before committing! 2. Moveset! Cleaver transform is amazing at hitting bosses high-up (The very tall vertical slashes but lacks serration in in Trick form). Spear has a good poke/charged R2 with a very abuseable hitbox, thrust is also effective on Kin (But not when magically infused, because magic damage now, not thrust), all the while it retains its serration tricked, too which DOES stay even while magic! Take some consideration on what you value more, hitting dudes high up or poking from afar. Does serration while tricked matter to you? Or is it not really a factor since you use it non-tricked anyway for higher DPS? Good luck with your builds, Hunters!
@@Patches_Gaming LMAO, well i might have beaten dark soul 3 and sekiro on my own but everybody is new to bloodwork apparently, so i do hope amygdala goes easy on me
In regards to 7:46 this is a valid point but don't forget that having a weapon that deals multiple damage types on different attacks will not benefit evenly from gems that only increase blunt damage, for example. A weapon like the beastcutter (which only uses blunt damage) can get higher damage from gems offering additional blunt damage than another weapon which only deals blunt damage on certain attacks, because the beastcutter deals blunt damage on all attacks.
When I looked at it again, it reminded me of the scythe from the game Knight's Contract (the main guy's weapon). The game was also set in a Victorian dark fantasy, Bloodborne-esque setting (it came before Bloodborne).
I love the Stake Driver, man. Everyone's always like, "Oh the R2 is so slow, you'll never be able to use it," when plenty of enemies and even some bosses are perfectly willing to give you enough time. And for the ones that won't, just chug a Lead Elixir and laugh as they struggle in vain to defuse the bomb before it detonates in their face
I used the stakedriver on a build before, I wouldn't even waste the lead elixer on the meme, both forms r1s are very fast with great dps so I'd use those on anything too fast to hit with the super charged r2.
I got back into Bloodborne after over a year since my last playthrough, and I'm currently going through NG+ with the Amygdalan Arm and some arcane spells. Been quite interesting so far with more stuff to use while out on the hunt.
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Heyzeusherestoasts would have a word with you lol
No fuckin way
"Ritter spal ch" is how you pronounce the saber gun
Didn't you make a video that talked about how shit the saw spear was? Not nit picking, just think it's strange
@@ashtonpatton4207 he made that video YEARS before this one. We have a description box for a reason.
Imagine only being serrated on one side.
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Sorw spires clan we are one
Imagine having the range of a sword
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@@joemamajoestar8141 Imagine not having a strength build
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Imagine not being up to blow stuff up
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@@diogoc1541 imagine looking like a lollipop
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5:37 "In order to clean up a mess, you had to be willing to make one"
**VIOLENTLY FISTS A PIG**
Wtf I missed that I loled good catch
this game was so good that we're making videos about it 6 years later
But what about demon souls
My friend was looking at my game play times and couldn't believe how many hours I have on it.
@@crazyfriend50 What about it?
@@breathless_siren how much ?
This game has a great mix of dark souls and cosmic horror . Love the universe.
Imagine not having class
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Imagine being a puny version of beastcutter.
@@noop9k imagine having the worse version of the threaded cane
Imagine not having a pizza cutter
@@Peak_Antelope Str scaling is never worse, you Dex degenerate ;)
@@noop9k Yeah, say the person who needs to spend 30 minutes to swing his weapon **o n c e**
One of the reason I love bloodborne is ALL weapons are viable (at least for pve) that’s why their are less of them, it’s not like dark souls where there are like a hundred weapons but only 40 of them are actually usable. With the right build any weapon can be used, hence why they all have their own unique move set.
Only weapon I'd have to disagree with that sentiment on is the wheel, thing is only really good for pvp and only so because its attacks are wonky as sin
The fact that weapons in BB are so unique is a huge plus for exploration and game progression. I hate it when I discover "just another straight sword" in DS but every weapon find is so exciting in BB.
@@ivanlagayacrus1891 Interesting! I personally think the wheel is good, but the Stake Driver is so short ranged that it is kind of hard to use.
@@chromasus9983 I only have faith in the stake driver because pve a charged r1 after oiling an enemy can shred chunks of a bosses hp, otherwise yes it's very hard to use
Yeah... The church pick is the best all around. Its got reach, speed ,and pretty high damage. I remember being shocked how good it was after leveling it up on a welm.
Me: "In this playthrough I will try out another weapon..."
Also me: ...farming 20.000 blood echoes in early game to get Ludwigs Holy Blade as soon as possible...
Its hilarious how many bloodborne noobs just naturally gravitate to the LHB in their first playthough and then act like "Hey guys, have you heard of this ludwig's sword?? Its low key pretty viable."
It more functional as a crutch than the literal Cane based weapon LMAO. I love it.
@@sasaki999pro I mean...
Small sword that becomes big sword and does gigantic damage? Has "Holy" in the name???
Everybody would gravitate to it.
@@sasaki999pro It's a good weapon for new players to actually star getting into the game and then try using other weapons
@@sylana5556 actual gigachad
Me with the whirligig saw
The Saw Spear: You either die an unused weapon or live long enough to actually get some fckn recognition.
Hahaha so true I remember this weapong getting no love back when BB came out and now you'd be surprised how much shine this weapon gets
@@austenishoss Yea every video and post that I saw (even after comming into the game a few years late) was just meming on the spear. I'm still not a huge fan of its design and move set but there is no denying how strong it can be built for pve. The effin yeet spear lol.
I remember using saw spear to cheese gascoigne and then using it for the rest of the game my first run
I don't use it much anymore but now I'm thinking I wanna play NG and do arcane build
@@ArgenteonYT I'm currently running a pure arcane build and wish I would've done a bit more research on the saw spear before hand. Saw cleaver is always nice and buffing it with the fire or bolt gems still works wonders but the extra stat boosts the spear has would've been better. Now i'm gonna do some grinding and level it up to +10 and finish up the DLC and see how it feels.
I only use it on arcane because I just prefer the cleaver on every other build
Simon's Bowblade is criminally underrated in my opinion. It allows you to focus entirely on the weapon as it's both a melee and ranged weapon
The bowblade is my favorite weapon in the game. In a bloodtinge build with good stones the weapon is absolutely broken.
@@garretmiller7837 I haven't tried Bloodtinge builds but I heard it makes guns OP at 50 Bloodtinge
The Reiterpallasch (not correct spelling) does that as well, but it's ranged option can double as a parry.
You can even melee in it's gun form.
Even when you're meleeing during it's gun form, it's still pretty effective due to how fast the normal attacks are.
The Burial Blade used to be my favorite Trick Weapon, but now it has to be this.
It can parry, thrust (kin killer), slice, shoot. It does everything.
It's a one-tool arsenal.
@@someguythatdoesstuff7658 Reiterpallasch doesn't get near as much credit as it deserves. I found it to be fantastic in every facet of the game.
@@davidrosensin7985 Based Reiterpallasch enjoyer
Saw Spear is nowhere close to underrated. It's literally top tier.
True dat.
As a beginning weapon yes but depending on the build and gems it becomes a mid tier weapon. Its really good but can be greatly out damaged for example like the holy moonlight sword has the highest AR in the game. It's extremely powerful but can't be buffed it depends on what ur using what build ur going for. But having a weapon like the HMS (holy moonlight) with its very powerful attack with a secondary weapon thats able to be buffed with elements is really useful and negates that u can't buff the HMS. By all means the saw spear is a very good weapon if built right but it can be out damaged later in the game.
@@nohomeobromeo4973 outdamaged, yes but it has literally unrivaled dps along with cleaver. The fact that it's the most versatile weapon helps too
@@ayman___16 yeah I agree they are good. I wouldn't say they are top teir when it comes to being heavily out damaged tho. I personally don't use them unless its the beginning of the game then as soon as I can I swtich to a different weapon but they are very good just there are weapons that outclass them
@@nohomeobromeo4973 what weapons outclass Saws? I'm interested, since both Saws can reach 680-700 AR on a high-end Quality Build on BL120, literally no other weapon has that balance of very high AR to speed ratio in addition to having Serrated
I feel like I have fallen into a wormhole back to 2015 where people though the chikage was overpowered, endurance was a good stat, and no heal duels ruled the land. Thank you for the nostalgia trip. 10/10 video, would r1 in frontier again.
But chikage is op
But chikage is op
When I saw that my opponent had the chikage, I instantly stopped moving realizing my inevitable death, I could only wait until it comes closer and closer quaking in fear. The chikage killed my family and my friends. The chikage did every atrocity in history, fear the chikage and its power. When I was confronted by someone with 99 endurance and a chikage, I instantly came everywhere at its mighty power. I learned to fear the old blood that day, it made me drip my own blood into a puddle on the floor, god save me when my opponent whipped out his massive, engorged, bulging chikage, I pissed my pants.
But chikage is op
@@arachno4246 but Chikage is OP
The saw spear's R2 is my favorite in the game, aside from burial blade's. The follow up upward slash sends even merciless watcher flying.the transformation attack is great for limbs, just ask Amelia 😉
Lol this came out literally one minute after I chose bloodborne on his pole
Same lol i think he had a vid ready already
*poll
Same
Lol
This came out literally hours after I got into a 2021 bloodborne blind playthrough by John Wolfe
Rusty 1 year ago: "I've never ever used a weapon I believe in as little as this meat cleaver looking atrocity right here."
Rusty Here: "So hey guys the Saw Spear is pretty dam rad and here's why."
Top 10 character redemption arcs
Laharl pfp pog
i found my first play through how amazing the saw spear can be. serrated damage on both modes? yes pls
Rusty now: im the kind of idiot that used to think the saw spears good.
@@koalachan6029 ???
A few months ago I got back into this and chose to beef up my Threaded Cane. Being able to roleplay as a Belmont as well as just chewing through certain enemies was a dream.
Love the castlevania refference 💖😎👍
Chew through almost any enemy tbh. Thrusting, Serrated, Righteous, AoE, can be paper buffed, the Threaded Cane has it all
@@EvanFarshadow Yup
Does that make the Beastcutter the Morningstar?
Threaded cane is a pretty darn cool weapon, tbh, an its got one hell of a moveset. I have still to use it extensively for a playthrough, but I won't disagree that the Cane is a great weapon.
I still remember your "Top ten okay-est Bloodborne weapons" Rusty.
I just watched that video and this video was recommended
As relaxed sounding as he is in this video comparatively, I have to wonder if saw spear fanatics broke into his home, drugged him, and forced him to make THIS video for his snark in that one lol
Thank God, people are still making bloodborne content
This is why I love the Church Pick because, as you said, it does it all. Useful damage types and a crazy versatile moveset. The Threaded Cane for similar reasons. You really can cover all possible encounters with those weapons.
Church pick:
-Buffable
-Thrust
-Range
-Low stamina cost
-Speed
-Good scaling
-Durability
With blood gems it's no contest the best overall PvE weapon in the game.
So basically... I was smart to choose my pimp cane over the fancy handsaw-
yup
Pimp cane goated
Who needs a pimp cane when you've got the Beast Cutter
@@jackjohnson8305 beast cutter is like low C tier but go off
@@bankroll4416 If beast cutter is low C tier then the pimp toothpick is F tier.
I like to see some recognition to Saw Spear at least after years. The most underrated and forgotten weapon, but one of the most handy and reliable in "Underrated" list and all game. In my time
i made a whole character to explore dungeons with Saif and Saw Spear.
The next Insight i wish for people to gain is understanding how beautiful and smart the Beast Cutter is.
the beast-cutter is viscerally satisfying. Its enough to make a man drunk...
Aka the chad version of the threaded cane.
You really ought to make a series on all the weapons breaking them down like this
Imagine not having light
This post was made by Holy Moonlight Sword gang.
Ah, you were at my side all along...
Imagine using a giant glowig popsicle instead of embrancing the arcane truth
- post made by the Kos nuclear brocolli gang
@@dovahkiin_brasil Imagine turning into a vegetable when you can kill people by stabbing yourself.
This post was made by Brador's fanclub.
@@SunlessSage *BZZZZZZZ*
-This post was made by whirligig saw gang
@@invincibleunderthesun8545 Imagine having to press attack button more than once
-This post was made by Flamesprayer gang
"Underappreciated" my ass. I see this thing used more than the saif under most conditions.
I think the saif is better off to use against human type enemies, like watchers and hunters. The saw spear is way more diverse, and very deadly against beasts, especially with fire blood gems.
I began playing Bloodborne for the first time about 3 weeks ago, and I have fallen in love with the Saw Spear. Appreciate the vindication and the info this video provides.
With respect, I don't get why this dude is saying it's underrated at all. It's widely considered one of the best weapons in the game because of its moveset.
Same here. I bought a ps4 2 weeks ago, just to play this game. I'm at the end of my first playthrough and I haven't used anything else other than the saw spear (except for Rom, I used ludwig's holy blade for that fight, but that's it). It was totally worth getting this game, I'm having a really great time playing it.
@@walkingburgers95 good
@@walnutking92 it has only become more enjoyed recently. To this day, I and many others see it for the mediocre side grade that it is.
Underrated means "not liked enough as it probably should be" I don't think its underrated not only because I think it's actually become overrated, but also because it got its thunder.
Playing BB again for the first time would be the only reason to wish for Alzheimer's
I played through the game mainly using the cane and i did not regret it, it felt nice having a close range weapon for enemies i was confident against, and a longer range hit (when in whip form) when i had no clue what i was up against, it especaily helped me take down the true final boss on my first attempt even though i was panicing thanks to the 1 hp move that stopped me from healing
Rusty in 2019: "lul saw spear bad"
Rusty in 2021: *saw spear go brrrrrrr*
the other good thing about the spear is that because it scales with skill more than strength, you can pump points into that first and get better visceral damage earlier
Hey Baron - your videos are amazing!
This is probably my favorite game ever, I've played it multiple but only last year did I decide to do a complete run, meaning all bosses, killing all enemies at least once, getting all weapons, outfits, runes and items, and even though I though it might turn into a chore it became my favourite playthrough as of yet, spending the time on learning the attack patterns of enemies I usually skipped at all costs (sharks, bloodsuckers etc) reminded me of why the combat is so great, searching every nook and cranny makes obvious the immense effort that went into the level design, in sort, I fell in love with the game again
First playthrough was like genocide run for me, I was hunting down and killing all beasts and bosses, few weeks later I find out most bosses were OPTIONAL😩 no matter, it's been more fun for me and challenging to actually hunt down everything
3 views, 161 likes, and 41 comments. Good to see UA-cam hasn’t changed. But it’s better to see Rusty joining the hunt again, so, in proper Hunter fashion.
“May the good blood guide your way.”
AAAAANNNNDDDD "FEAR THE OLD BLOOD!!!!!"
Tonight, Rusty joins the Hunt, once again
If you haven't done so, doing an Arcane build playthrough of this game is incredibly fun and satisfying. Highly recommended.
I just finished one, some of those Hunter tools are sooo OP against bosses, it’s not even fair 🤣
I just started one, just killed the cleric beast with molotovs. I'm doing crap damage, gotta get myself a fire gem or two for my weapon.
I started one too. Killed Vicar Amelia in about 40 seconds with a fireblood crescent in my Saw Spear and the Flamesprayer.
@Gian Luca what are you talking about, I did my first real Arcane build on an NG+++ character. Get bent noob
@Gian Luca okay buddy, I beat the game in 2015. Been there since Demon Souls. It’s not hard to learn which Hunter tools work and which don’t. Maybe go back to the Lab NOOb
saw spear is very slept on in bloodborne its so rare to see - thank u for waking up these gamers
Bro you're so damn right. It's a great weapon but unfortunately not as busted as Chicago smh my head
@@che_rlqt bro the beast claws SKappa
@@che_rlqt Absolutely agree i wish hunters stop use tryhard weapons like the chokage and discover something that takes talent
@@Scorched-Knight beast claws are very powerful the chain R1 in beast mode is in fact “BEASTMODE” as they say
It’s almost as slept on as Kirk in my opinion, they both deserve to be put on their separate tiers from the other weapons
1st playthrough I benched the cleaver for kirkhammer and then ludwig's sword, then in NG+ I purchased The Old Hunters and swapped to Moonlight, and then in NG++ I wanted something different so I took only the cleaver with me. When I fought Amelia (I skipped cleric beast this time then looped back) I realized I had stumbled onto something. She got absolutely shredded by the cleaver. Yes I had a high modifier by this point, but for it being NG++ I never thought it'd wreck house like that. I used it for the rest of that run and I have to say, it was an immensely wild ride. I got up to NG++++++ on that character, and the cleaver never left my equip slots. Spear wasn't my cup of tea. It wasn't as slow as the big weapons I was used to but it wasn't as fast as cleaver, so it just sat in an odd spot for me where I couldn't quite get its timing down.
Touched cane once, never again.
Last time I was this early Silksong was supposed to be just DLC
Wait, it isn't anymore? I'm out of the loop.
@@zack8596 Homie, it’s a whole ass game. Lmao.
@@unreliablenarrator8219 Yeah, I looked it up since I read your comment. That's wild.
This is by far the most in depth explanation of the weapon damage types I’ve seen. Bravo man!
It's not underrated, it's been meta for 5 years
sospir underted
@@brunbread5643 ya u rite
@@Wacck spspir undreted
@@ceral1871 ya u rite
Underreted
I've been playing non-stop for the past two weeks. Just wish I had more friends who played this as well. Co-op is the best part of these games. Bloodborne is the best From Software game. Period.
Players are everywhere this game is and always is active. Ring your bell brother!
Kusabimaru disagrees🤺🤺
add my GT phantom based
ring a ding ding!
@@strange63635 ik this is 1yr latebut the feeling of playing with a friend is much morw satisfying than playing with a stranger
Don't forget, weapons that deal thrust damage also scale your visceral damage sneakily. Weapons without thrust do not do this, but a weapon with thrust damage applies the scaling to your viscerals (which do thrust damage regardless of what weapon you use) so the saw spear is better despite its lower base damage because your viscerals are better than if you are using the cleaver. So even if you use a weapon that doesn't deal thrust, you should have a second weapon that does for things you want to backstab or shoot
This is incorrect*. In fact, the Cleaver is better for Visceral Attacks against beasts because it applies serration to your Visceral Attack while in saw form, and the Spear doesn't**.
*Your right hand weapon's blood gems apply to visceral attacks, so if you equip Thrust Attack Up gems that will increase your visceral damage. That would be true regardless of the weapon benefiting from it.
**For some reason, if a weapon has serration/righteous damage in both forms, the bonus doesn't apply to viscerals. But if the weapon has the bonus in only one form, and you have the weapon in that form, the bonus does apply. Hence why the closed Cleaver applies serration but the Saw doesn't.
The best weapon for visceral attacks is arguably the Threaded Cane while transformed. Not only is it serrated, it also gets +15% Skill scaling and that carries over to the visceral too.
@@ArmandoDoval Why the church pick does a ton of visceral damage?
Rusty, I THRIVE on indulging upon the obsessions of others. The way you articulate your love of this stuff especially enthralls me. Say all you want about it, I'm here for it even if others said it already.
Nah. Saw Spear ain't underrated. It's one of the despicable weapons if you're using it in PVP, you will be killed and POINTED DOWN for your try-hard. The other one is Saw Cleaver.
Saw Spear is indeed underrated, because most people don't understand how deep the Untricked R1 of the Saw Spear is. The average people plays with the shallow, overpowered Ludwig's Holy Blade or Chikage instead of the deep, thought-provoking Saw Spear. When people use Skill instead of Quality, I cried, since Quality is an often misunderstood build. There's just so much thought poured into Quality Builds, like the +65 Strength Scaling Gem obtained from the dreaded Headless Bloodletting Beast or the intricate Gem that has 27.2% Physical Attack Up from the much-praised Merciless Watchers Boss
where get blootinge gem
@@brunbread5643 3n7q, may the good blood guide ur way hoonter
@@brunbread5643: Cursed Dungeons, good lad.
The +65 Strength is OP, but my Kirk Hammer is sadly lacking, a fully charged r2 does less damage than my Chikage. I think this is why people use more of those weapons, Chikage can be a plus 3 and be OP.
@@Patches_Gaming kirk hammer is underrated, you must use 3x32.6% bloodtinge gems for MAXIMUM DAMAGE of kirkhammer. But to be honest with you, nothing beats chakage in terms of damage
anyone remember how rusty bullied the saw spear back in the day?
I remember seeing saw spear being one of his least favorite weapons in the game
Same
He played some more with it I assume to figure out the positive things about it
Bruh, I used that weapon from the moment I got it to when I finished
He is running out of ideas obviously
There are 2 types of people in bloodborne, those that prefer the cleaver and those that prefer the spear
Honestly this video warmed my heart, ive been in love with bloodborne ever since game grumps played through it. And i had been noticing a decline in content being made about it.. obviously i cant fault anyone, do what makes you happiest, but its really nice to see people making videos about this game again :D
Worth noting church pick does not have a serrated multiplier. It is actually unique in having the "beast hunter" modifier instead. This is the same effect as found on gems, for example "atk vs beast down" curse, which is a negative beasthunter effect. Beast hunter is actually applicable to more enemies than serration. For example, labyrinth madmen are affected by beasthunter and not serration.
Also worth noting that despite saw spear's greater scaling at max stats it will still have lesser AR than the cleaver. This is true of arcane conversion as well.
Spear's main advantage is its inherently larger hitboxes in untricked form, despite having the same moveset. The tricked moveset comes down to personal preference, as you mentioned with the thrust. Saw spear's slower tricked form is balanced by having higher multipliers than in it's untricked form, while the Cleaver's tricked mode has lower multipliers.
Your content is a lot of fun an easy to follow, I'm a big fan, but please please try to do your research in the future
Explained it better that I would have.
Saw spear also deals serration damage on its saw-to-spear L1, unlike the cleaver. So that's an advantage if you prefer to end combos on a single L1 press.
Both deal serration when transforming back into a saw, and the cleaver-to-saw L1 hits harder than the spear's, so if you like to do two L1s back to back they break even.
I got this game for Christmas, platinumed it a few weeks ago and now I'm going for the bl4 run, wish me luck!
Good hunting!
I miss when Rusty was like this. Calm, clear, and actually made sense. I still enjoy his content nowadays, but I miss when he took the time to have a calmer and more sensible tone rather than just shouting insults into the mic because a weapon is slightly underwhelming.
The saw spear... “underrated” Kappa
hey ur that guy from frontier
@@rarepack1449 🤠
Pvp god is here kekw
Nah, just under-serrated.
LUL this video
This popped up after watching jacksepticeye play through hours of the game using this weapon
Finally some more bloodborne, man oh man i love this game.
I don’t know if it’s considered underrated, but I have always loved the logarius’ wheel, it will forever be my favorite bloodborne weapon
Also I love how this game can change opinions, Rusty used to hate the spear
I'm gonna be *that* nerd: the serrated damage bonus is 20% for all weapons that get it, but the righteous bonus is 20% for Church Pick (both modes; both modes also get the serrated bonus) and Threaded Cane (untransformed), 30% for Logarius' Wheel in both forms, and 50% for the silver sword (Kirkhammer, Ludwig's Holy Blade), transformed Holy Blade, and both forms of the Moonlight Holy Blade. Also, nothing in the game resists thrust damage-Kin-type enemies in particular are disastrously weak to it, but *literally every other enemy in the game* has thrust as its lowest physical resistance.
As an aside, the weapons that deal bonus righteous damage are the straight swords, with the exception of Cainhurst's Reiterpallasch.
Yay 4 Bloodborne. I recently decided to get the platinum (finally) and I've been playing around with all the weapons. Can't use the Moonlight Great sword 🗡️ for everything.
9:44 ex-*spear*-ience
Love this game so much, dreaming that we'll be able to play it at 60fps one day.
Never understood why it never came out on pc. Love the game but I have to fight the fps aswell lol.
@@Hateious bc its a playstation only game
@@pegasusrr3156 Nah wait what I thought it was gamecube?
I really love the threaded cane early game, but switch over to the Powder Kegs' Rifle Spear as soon as I can get my hands on it. The rifle is a weapon that I don't see many people use, but I personally love that I can 2 hand it all day no problem while also having access to it's firing mode
Next time someone asks me to describe a pick weapon to them I'll simply say that it's a pole with a single huge saw-tooth attached to the end obviously lmao
I'm not the first, and I'm certainly not the last to say it, but I'll say it anyway.
Every single weapon in Bloodborne is easily memorable. There is so much backstory, so much character to each weapon. I mean, from the starting weapons alone, we get an Axe that transforms into a Halberd, a meat cleaver specifically designed to hunt beasts that transforms into a long meat hook, and a cane that turns into a whip! Whoever thought of the Threaded cane is a genius! Then later on, you get access to the Rifle Spear, which is basically a gun and a spear stuck together, and a fist weapon that shoots stakes from it's unrealistically large mechanism when you stab people with it! There's a sword that suddenly becomes a giant hammer! Or a sword that transforms into an even bigger sword. A sword that transforms into two swords, a katana because Miyazaki doesn't care if we're in Victorian Era England, he's gotta have a katana, even at least one! Every weapon is so crazy, so unique, the entire weapon list is a colorful mess of weapons that are so interesting... I love everything about it.
Blessed be... Bloodborne content in 2021... This the third time we get a resurgence? Fourth?
I completed the game just this January and I gotta say the saw spear was the weapon I kept returning to, even when I was inclined to build up something different. Something about transforming it mid-fight just feels so good.
Saw Spear is King! Thank you Rusty
Bless 🙏 the king 👑
sounds like my guy finally found the right medication, he chilled tf out.
Ludwig's Holy Blade is super hard to go past, 1 hand and 2 handed that thing is a force to be reckoned with. I still remember my first playthrough when I finally found the blood rock and upgraded it to +10 for the first time I felt invincible walking around with a +10 weapon =P
I watch a lot of videos on UA-cam and I must say, the production/narration of this video kept me listening. Good work.
I confused myself with the word under-used with underrated xD
I get it, it's not that many people don't use it it's because there are much preferred builds than what the saw spear is used in
It can be one of those things where it's just so insanely good that it gets a little bit boring to use
Saw is probably the most versatile weapon in the game but it's easily boring for most people.
I used the saw spear on every build at some point, in every playthrough. Ol' Reliable. Gems can change it to fitting every niche. My first playthrough was on a 99 ARC build, the Saw Spear was all I needed for the whole game. It is fast, with good scaling. The transformed R1 starts at a fast sweep, which is fantastic for those dang raven groups. The poke R2 has great range, and thrust is the best damage type. Almost nothing resists it. Serrated is just a great bonus for having it on both forms, instead of the Cleaver only on one. And yes, that R1 L1 combo is just so wonderfully good.
You know something weird. I just started the game. So maybe I can get some use out of this.
Honestly if I knew those subtle things about the weapons when I started I'd have been far better off. You just dont get that kind if depth in most games, even other FromSoft titles, so you dont look for it.
Have fun on your hunt! It's a pretty great game, though there are a couple not quite fully baked elements to it.
me too although i started it last week
Kirk Hammer is op, go get it! I killed Laurence with a plus 7 Kirk Hammer, GET IT!
if you are interested in attack speed i reccomend Blades of Mercy, it may have low attack damage but holy shit its fast
I've never used the cleaver, always the spear. Double serrated plus a stab attack for those brainsuckers? Yes please. Best serrated fire arcane weapon imo.
Ah yes that one weapons I picked up and used for five minutes and then put it away for the way better saw cleaver.
They are for diff builds actually so if your a str build you should use the cleaver but skill builds would be better with the spear as it has better skill scaling
@@123NERDZ Yeah I guess that explains why it didn’t work with my strength build. It’s weird that the weapon is a strength based weapon when it’s faster than the spear one which is slower. I just thought that the saw spear was just an awkward slower version of the saw cleaver so I didn’t use it.
I hope Rusty never reads this cause it is cringe af, but honestly I could listen to this man read a fucking phonebook and be riveted. Dudes got a talent for oration and it shows.
I remember when I got the 3 weapons in the beginning and testing them out. The first thing that drew me towards saw spear was how quick the side to side swing attack was, the thing that made it my only weapon was the trick range and it's stun locking.
It was definitely the R1 speed that made it my go-to currently (on my first play through right now). Made dealing with those goddamn werewolves MUCH more manageable because you can just overwhelm them with the speed of the attacks.
Another huge advantage in my opinion for the SS over the cleaver, Is that having to invest in skill rather than strength, you get visceral damage up much more, and more quiclky, through your leveling ups
Wow you’re right, good point
More Bloodborne? Hell yes!
Hunter Axe and Saw Spear is my current favorite "beginning-of-the-game" loadout. You've got big hits and long range on one end, and big spikey serrated poke stick of doom on the other end that can cleave beasts like a Thanksgiving ham.
Um... the Saw Spear isn't underappreciated at all. Anyone who actually really knows the game knows that it's the best weapon in the game overall, and is better than the Cleaver.
So...
Yeah this video annoyed the fuck out me
Moveset is everything. Always loved my Kirkhammer and Ludvig's Holy Blade.
Anybody else starting a completely new character out of the blue after not playing for several months? I know exactly what you feel about the feeling of coming back home bro. A hoonter must hoont after all
Saw Spear is my go to choice against literally any beast ennemy wether they are boss or mob.
That 20% dammage bonus from seration dammages is fucking neat yo.
"a serrated weapon sees much more application"
*cue the fact that the holy blade is straight up the best weapon in the game
*The sound of twin circular saws grinding to life echoes behind you*
@@austinparker5053 You. I like you.
Wait a fucking second in you top 10 okay-est bloodborne weapons you put the saw spear at number 8 and had some fucking words for that weapon.
Tonight, Rusty joins the hunt.
When I create a new character first thing I do is run for the spear. Get a weapon and start hunting without having to go to the dream. I have the goal of defeating Gascoigne before going to the dream but my lack of skills and a Perry weapon have prevented me so far.
The saw spear is actually one of my favourite weapons too. I use it in ghe cursed dungeons because it's fast and hits hard
Lately, my favourite underrated weapon has been Threaded Cane because it's a great pick for both skill and arcane builds. And the per-point damage increase in its skill investment is insane. Also, I love the fact that its R2 whip attack can almost hit anything regardless of the target's stature. This is especially true against bosses, since the whip's heavy strike can hit the head of every boss.
we needed a whole 10 minutes video to know why the cleaver isnt superior
The Saw Cleaver and Hunter Axe carries me through my first playthrough.
As someone who has played Arcane extensively, Arcane scaling only affects physical damage, not any form of elemental damage. Putting Arcane gems on a pure physical damage weapon like the Saw Spear (making it a Conversion weapon), adds the same arcane damage regardless of whether the weapon has an A or C scaling in Arcane. It's newly converted arcane damage will depend entirely on your own Arcane stat, independent of the weapon's scaling.
Moreover, the physical damage you get from a weapon with very high Arcane scaling (e.g Ludwig's), is far lower than the damage from other stat scaling. Arcane scaling on a weapon is something that should be completely ignored when deciding on what to use in a build. You can use literally anything with the right gems and high Arcane.
In general, hybrid weapons like Tonitrus deal far less damage in a pure Arcane build than a Conversion weapon (pure physical with elemental gems). With hybrids, you want stats like 50 Arcane 50 Strength.
An example of my 99 Arcane build: Beasthunter Saif with Bolt Gems for Kin - Beast Cutter with Fire Gems for beasts (benefits from serrated). I don't bother with Arcane weapons, as a boss susceptible to Arcane damage will get obliterated by A Call Beyond anyway.
I LOVE this weapon, glad you've changes your mind on it. It's just so damn reliable and that transformed R2 can be so broken in certain situations
This is very interesting, tho, I have mixed feelings about this design choice tbh. Completely hiding a 20% damage buff just behind some vague descriptions and the design of the weapon is... questionable, to say the least. I never would've guessed such a strong modifier, simply because the game is already giving me so many statistical informations. Why would it withhold something else?
It's very weird, especially because the weapons do have two little icons with value 100 in the description, representing beasts and kin: when you equip something like the golden gem from Amelia, the value with the yellow beast icon goes up. They could have just set the serrated weapons with a base value of 120 next to that icon
@@pilot3605 they reason they didn’t is because it’s not a damage stat, it’s a multiplier. Serrated only works on curtain enemies that’s why it’s not a stat.
Id played dark souls one, rung both bells and killed smough/orenstein by the time i picked up bloodborne, but the game had never really sucked me in. Bloodborne was cool, exhilariating in fact, after id beaten cleric beast after *3 days* and hundreds of attempts. Gasgoine and BSB took significantly less, and i used the chalice dungeons to get a giant scythe. I was dissapointed by Burial Blades damage, until i spent about. Idk, four hours straight? Running from start to end, no shortcuts through forbidden woods, killing every snake head, big snake ball and normal dude along my path in an absolute *shower* of blood using its moveset. Bloodborne really let me fall in love with fromsoft games, and itll always be my favorite because of that :)
Man I feel like the church pick is underrated
It is, ad it is best weapon in the game. It has all damage bonuses you can think of, extremely high AR. And you can put 32,6 % gems on it.
I liked it at first but after hundreds of hours I find other weapons more appealing to use, specially if we talk about movesets, for example Rakuyo. Also, I came back to Saw Spear as my easy-going weapon. And if I want crowd control here and there I go with the Burial Blade. It's a matter of taste but I was bored of CP despite having all the damage bonuses. At the end bonuses don't provide anything exciting to the gameplay anyway.
That said, I also feel CP was always underrated and due to the differenced forms, okish movesets and bonuses it's easily on the top 3 of best weapons, having in mind the effectivity and versatility.
When choosing between Cleaver and Spear for Arcane build:
1. Both weps get basically the same damage with arcane, Cleaver pulling ahead a FEW points (Not super major)
www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/72hlt1/new_version_of_character_planner_now_has_all_the/ If you wish to test your damage before committing!
2. Moveset! Cleaver transform is amazing at hitting bosses high-up (The very tall vertical slashes but lacks serration in in Trick form).
Spear has a good poke/charged R2 with a very abuseable hitbox, thrust is also effective on Kin (But not when magically infused, because magic damage now, not thrust), all the while it retains its serration tricked, too which DOES stay even while magic!
Take some consideration on what you value more, hitting dudes high up or poking from afar. Does serration while tricked matter to you? Or is it not really a factor since you use it non-tricked anyway for higher DPS?
Good luck with your builds, Hunters!
Finally decided to order bloodborn after such a long time, this video comes perfectly
Oh Amygdala..go easy on the poor bastard..
@@Patches_Gaming Defiled amygdala: No, I don't think I will.
@@Patches_Gaming LMAO, well i might have beaten dark soul 3 and sekiro on my own but everybody is new to bloodwork apparently, so i do hope amygdala goes easy on me
@@theartgoose: Bloodborne in my Opinion is 100 percent more difficult than Sekiro and Dark Souls, unless you do a Chikage or Arcane build.
In regards to 7:46 this is a valid point but don't forget that having a weapon that deals multiple damage types on different attacks will not benefit evenly from gems that only increase blunt damage, for example. A weapon like the beastcutter (which only uses blunt damage) can get higher damage from gems offering additional blunt damage than another weapon which only deals blunt damage on certain attacks, because the beastcutter deals blunt damage on all attacks.
new boodborne content... thats rare
When I looked at it again, it reminded me of the scythe from the game Knight's Contract (the main guy's weapon). The game was also set in a Victorian dark fantasy, Bloodborne-esque setting (it came before Bloodborne).
I love the Stake Driver, man. Everyone's always like, "Oh the R2 is so slow, you'll never be able to use it," when plenty of enemies and even some bosses are perfectly willing to give you enough time.
And for the ones that won't, just chug a Lead Elixir and laugh as they struggle in vain to defuse the bomb before it detonates in their face
I used the stakedriver on a build before, I wouldn't even waste the lead elixer on the meme, both forms r1s are very fast with great dps so I'd use those on anything too fast to hit with the super charged r2.
I got back into Bloodborne after over a year since my last playthrough, and I'm currently going through NG+ with the Amygdalan Arm and some arcane spells. Been quite interesting so far with more stuff to use while out on the hunt.
Saw spear is king.
TFW saw spear is “underrated” somehow SKappa
@@Scorched-Knight if Rusty says its underrated it must be true bro