Want to go Single-Seater Racing but have a Limited Budget?

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • More bhp/ton than a Bugatti Veyron for less than £10K?
    Yes really!
    In this exclusive new video to 7Spot we take a look at Ben Bonfield's two single-seat racing cars that he uses in hill climb events (a Jedi and an OMS).
    Space frame chassis, bike engine and double wishbone suspension will be familiar to kit car owners, but this combination has a much more narrow focus.
    Both of Ben’s 1000cc single-seat racing cars weigh around 300kg each and produce 200bhp - which is 667bhp/ton (compared to just 523bhp/ton for the Veyron) and can be bought for less than £10,000.
    In fact at the time of writing one is for sale with a 600cc engine, needing a little work for just £3000!
    If you thought single-seater cars were the reserve of the rich, think again!
    Ben takes us through both of his cars - which in the age-old phrase are similar but different - giving an insight into what is under the skin of these purebred racers.
    If your ambition is to race a car with wings & slicks, you should watch this video.
    Last time we looked at his classic Mini crossbred with a BMW motorcycle engine - link to the video here - ( • Classic Mini with Twin... ).
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 62

  • @krazed0451
    @krazed0451 3 місяці тому +19

    Motorcycle engines rule the world of budget motorsport :-D

    • @frankdesbaux
      @frankdesbaux 2 місяці тому +2

      Especially when they're in motorcycles.

  • @phoenixmotorsport647
    @phoenixmotorsport647 3 місяці тому +10

    I did sprints and hill climbs in the road car classes (until a slight mishap!). These things are absolutely awsome

  • @sh4969
    @sh4969 Рік тому +89

    If I owned this I would want to make it road legal.

    • @purplemonstertv
      @purplemonstertv Рік тому +7

      Same would be amazing

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 7 місяців тому +10

      Could well be cheaper and easier to just buy an Ariel atom, which is

    • @mustafateran5927
      @mustafateran5927 5 місяців тому

      Would be a pain in the ass but possible

    • @sv2697
      @sv2697 5 місяців тому +10

      Atom is at least $50k

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 5 місяців тому

      @@sv2697 from £30,000 in the UK

  • @Al_is_XXX
    @Al_is_XXX 7 місяців тому +8

    Fascinating insights, many thanks, great video, subscribed

  • @reallybigkidd
    @reallybigkidd 3 місяці тому +2

    To add to these two we have just bought another Jedi this time a mk6 (second hand) for considerably less than 10k with engine repairs and upgrades it will still be less than 10k

  • @mbardos
    @mbardos 27 днів тому

    Yep. It's not a problem.

  • @imonlyhereforthecomments4267
    @imonlyhereforthecomments4267 11 місяців тому +7

    Subscribed instantly

  • @lewisharman7564
    @lewisharman7564 Рік тому +6

    OK Ben

  • @jeraldmcwilson2189
    @jeraldmcwilson2189 3 місяці тому

    Thank you

  • @murraymadness4674
    @murraymadness4674 3 місяці тому +8

    The problem with these cars is they handle too well and go too fast. It makes passing difficult, and the fun of racing is not going fast, but passing other cars.
    The INEX legend series 5/8 scale cars are much better and even cheaper ($5k used), and most of all, they have street tires, no wings, and too much power, so they are so hard to drive when you push them too far (which everyone does), so you can pass each other often. watch some videos of them racing on a course (not dirt), very exciting.

  • @Metal05
    @Metal05 Рік тому +8

    OMS says the 3000 is £30k! Where did you get bought for less than £10k from?

    • @PGHEngineer
      @PGHEngineer 11 місяців тому +3

      2nd hand

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd 10 місяців тому +9

      The 3000 is 30k but 2000m an older generation car can be picked up for around 10k, there is still a good market of good used 1000cc single seaters for under 10k.

  • @torevenheim9607
    @torevenheim9607 11 місяців тому +4

    Nice cars😊😊

  • @e14ruturajjadhav37
    @e14ruturajjadhav37 3 місяці тому

    Mannnn i am really interested in this cars building video like a tutorial like that some thing

  • @mattbayada3011
    @mattbayada3011 Рік тому +4

    Would a larger lad say 110kg and 6 foot tall with large feet fit in one of these?

    • @TheCraigy83
      @TheCraigy83 10 місяців тому +4

      better to make your own if you have 10k laying around, most little cars are gonna be a squeeze your getting on for Jeremy Clarkson size .
      Wheels hubs steering rack seat is 50% the car , chassis is literally few hundred quid of box section + 4mm aluminium sheet + can get a full litre engine from the 2000's for £1k You pay almost half the cost in build fabrication labour there's 6k car there .

  • @theohlinsguy4649
    @theohlinsguy4649 6 місяців тому +9

    Cheap racing is an oxymoron

    • @murraymadness4674
      @murraymadness4674 3 місяці тому +3

      So true, however, have you ever tried r/c racing? only thing cheaper is probably sim racing, is that really racing?

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell 3 місяці тому

      Who are you calling an ox moron?

    • @RallyAddict555
      @RallyAddict555 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@murraymadness4674i would consider it proper racing, you can learn a lot of theory to prepare yourself for racing irl

  • @Roberto.Martini
    @Roberto.Martini 9 місяців тому +2

    Hw do i buy 1

  • @Obi670
    @Obi670 Рік тому +1

    Where could I race it because I’m looking to race after coming second in my karting championship

    • @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit
      @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit Рік тому +4

      In the UK the main race series for these cars is run by the 750 Motor Club, and the cars are also eligible for races organised by the Monoposto club. The 750 MC is a good place to start. I started out in Formula Vee with them before moving onto Formula Ford 2000 with BARC and then the HSCC, ultimately running in what was then called the ARP Formula 3 championship with BARC. I stopped in 2003 so not sure what other options are around currently for someone stepping up from karting, but the 750 club do still offer a good range of championships. Much depends on what you are trying to achieve of course. Hope this helps, John.

    • @thomasberry8873
      @thomasberry8873 11 місяців тому +1

      idk if its been helpful to him but it has to me :) @@A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit

    • @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit
      @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit 11 місяців тому

      @@thomasberry8873 That's great. Glad it helped.

  • @Carlos_RodriguesS2
    @Carlos_RodriguesS2 6 місяців тому +1

    Cool 🇧🇷

  • @steveindorset
    @steveindorset 5 місяців тому

    Does anyone know why they cover the slick tyres?

    • @7Spot556
      @7Spot556  4 місяці тому +4

      They cover them as they are warm and therefore sticky. They'd pick up rubbish and gravel/stones on the way to the start so keep them wrapped to maximise the start

  • @DodosKitchen2012
    @DodosKitchen2012 Рік тому +15

    Why whenever I find a Formula 1 style motorcycle engined race car it's always a hillclimb car??? Why aren't so many of these babies on race tracks killing it??

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd Рік тому +9

      There are many bike engined single seaters circuit racing. F1000uk and monoposto also has a 1000cc class. We went hillclimbing as it’s something we’ve always done. I would like to go circuit racing but the cost is what puts me off.

    • @hamsterbrigade
      @hamsterbrigade 5 місяців тому +1

      They're just called formula cars. No need for the formula 1 style statement.

    • @BenRelle
      @BenRelle 4 місяці тому

      Apart from there are race series for these, if you're asking why you don't see them on trackdays zipping round chubby road cars because open wheel cars are not allowed on trackdays in general.

  • @jeraldmcwilson2189
    @jeraldmcwilson2189 3 місяці тому

    I'm American sir . How much does he pay to race sir.total price for car

    • @mbardos
      @mbardos 27 днів тому

      Check out Rush SR1 in the US, not sure if you'll find 2nd hand ones though, they being fairly new...

  • @LemonDrizzleGang
    @LemonDrizzleGang 3 місяці тому

    What bhp

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd 3 місяці тому

      The yellow Jedi has 203 as of the start of the year, the white OMS has 195 and we’ve just bought another Jedi fitted with a Yamaha R1 engine which I hope to get to the 190

    • @LemonDrizzleGang
      @LemonDrizzleGang 3 місяці тому

      @@reallybigkidd thank you those are good figures for a gsxr1000

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd 3 місяці тому

      @@LemonDrizzleGang the engines are a bit of a hybrid sharing parts of the 2017 gsx s1000 and the 2005-2008 GSXR, there is a little bit of performance tweaking inside. It’s a half and half engine I’ve been working on since 2021 which seems to give us great results. Since this video I’ve done a new engine for the Oms so it’s nearly the same spec as the Jedi. I’ve still got more to go with them but I’d rather build reliable than fragile with big power. The Oms has all the gear if we wanted to go to run on methanol. It’s an option but I’ve decided not to use it just yet.

  • @yessir6325
    @yessir6325 Рік тому +3

    Is it just me or does the first element on both the upper and lower rear wing look upside down and generating lift instead of downforce?

    • @gunlover92
      @gunlover92 8 місяців тому +2

      Ya that's crazy. Must be the perspective. I can't see someone building a car like that and not understanding the basics of aerodynamics

    • @yessir6325
      @yessir6325 8 місяців тому

      @@gunlover92 maybe it’s like a front diffuser trying to draw more air under for the second element? Like if you look at the two overall the angle of attack is still generating downforce, im guessing not very efficiently… Not sure, I’ve never seen twin elements like that before. Maybe he was a little drunk last time he put the wing together and didn’t notice lmao

  • @12Senna
    @12Senna 8 місяців тому +3

    once nose were pined in front, your leg is gone 😨

    • @Oberon_Boost
      @Oberon_Boost 3 місяці тому +2

      Don't drive a really fast car. It's really dangerous thing.