3D Printer SCAMS!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- DO NOT get scammed on Facebook! I talk to 3 SCAMMERS and share some tips on how to recognize scams.
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When I was a maker at RMRRF, someone walked up to me and asked if I wanted to review a resin printer. (They showed me a sample print) Then they asked if I would pay for the printer to review! And I said no since it was probably a scam. This video pretty much confirmed that for me. Thanks 3D Printing Nerd! Also high five!
This reminds me of the TV marketers who say, "We'll send you a second product for FREE! You only need to pay shipping and handling."
Good guy Joel. Making the world a safer and better place, one yt video a time!
The timing of this video is impeccable. A "3d artist" was offering to do 3d modeling and animation for me. He was only willing to use PayPal friends and family (no buyer protection). Also, I could reverse image search everything in his "portfolio" to find he was not the creator. Be careful people, and HIGH FIVE 3DPN! Keep up the good work!
Yep i've had this from facebook
To be fair as a freelance 3D artist I can understand asking for friends and family because there are no fees taken out by PayPal, they may not have even known about the buyer protection. Of course if their portfolio is fake that's another story.
Agreed, that alone isn't a red flag, and I offered to cover the PayPal fees 😄 I know that 3.5% can impact a small business. Then the scammer said "Paypal doesn't work here unless its friends & family". I'm also paying out of a business account, and don't want problems calling it an expense. Clearly I got pretty far into the conversation with the scammer 😖
I have to deny and ban dozens of these idiots daily in my printing groups
😮 amazing video
Joel trolling 3d printing scammers... my late Tuesday night entertainment
At my previous company much of the IT department had been off-shored to India. Trying to have an in-depth technical conversation went much like this. 😂
Bangladesh is a country, not a part of India.
@@sigmadesigners Tommo never said that Bangladesh is in India, it was just an example ;-).
@@rudikemperman whatever he still insulted Indians🥸
@@whattheworld9298 He just wrote a _fact_ . If that fact is offending for them, well, it's their own fault... 😅
@@janosnagyj.9540 If you came to that conclusion by watching a bunch of s* caller videos, just observe in most of those videos the s* caller voice is identical/same and you believe them so hard. Can you name any country without sca*****s? When someone mentioned a country like this it means that they don't know outside world/ they don't l*ike that country/ they are j*ealous of that country.
our boy joel doin gods work here, f those scammers man
You didn't blur out France person's address the first time in the screenshot just to let you know.
It's likely a fake anyway.
"opps"
@@pileofstufflikely isn’t good enough
I would laugh if they set up a Chat GPT scammer
I'm sure someone already has
I’ve had a number of scammers be honest with me when I call them out. One in particular…when I said to him, “so you’re scamming people out of their hard earned money. That is pathetic, why do you do it?” and the kid replied, very quietly….”I guess because I’m pathetic, too.” He went on to explain that he had a family to support and there were no jobs to be found that paid enough (he said he was in Pakistan.) It was an eye opening convo. Of course, there are others that immediately launch into a profanity-laced tirade, so there’s that.
One thing I would say for the 3D printing community is that there is a good level of integrity among the Printfluencers. Rarely see any shilling on new product launches, pretty level and objective reviews , pros and cons etc
Awesome video. I usually ignore those facebook scams but now I am going to post your video in the comments every time I see one of those scams. Thanks
Thanks Joel for doing this video. I love that you are informing and protecting your viewers. This was fun to watch!
😊
I had a similar thing happen trying to buy a steam deck second hand. They went through basically the exact same type of dialog. It was obvious that it was a scam. I just sucks there are people out there that feel they have to do this stuff. Its crazy!
Lol, if you pay close attention to the "wonderful little profilepicture" of scammer 3 you'll notice it's the same picture scammer 1 is showing in his messages.
*We're looking for some test drivers for our **_Bugatti Veyron Super Sport_** for about 12 months. All you have to do is transfer/wire $5,000 for shipping the car to your location. Once we receive confirmation of the shipping payment the test **_Bugatti Veyron Super Sport_** should arrive in about 2-5 days, depending on your location.* 🤣
I thought your video was fantastic. I have to admit that I only stumbled on your video by accident while doing a search about something else. I however am glad and grateful, actually because I did get scammed myself, only once, but I know most people do not admit it. I thoroughly enjoyed your video. Thanks,
I waste scammers time all the time, it’s fun and frustrating 😄
Using the take a pic line always gets them to either run away or come back with “ I’m not a scammer, but you must be” line. It’s even funnier when they have poor English and get mad 😁
"It was really hard for me to say those words out loud" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I saw that same scam on Facebook, and the users name was Jackson Wu that was in communication with me. Glad I did the same thing and asked a ton of questions and kept the whole conversation.
Yup this is a super big issue in all FB groups. Keep reporting them folks!
Someone tried something similar with a motorcycle part I'd been looking for. Claimed he was in Florida, but the UPS tracking number he provided was from UPS international, and that's when the alarms went off in my head. Don't worry, he didn't get my money.
I got this exact same bs and knew it was a scam. I called them out and he sent me a middle finger meme 😂
Playing along with the pausing, my guess is Bangladesh followed by Vietnam. I worked for a telco in the past and we had tons of criminals from those regions trying to get phone number so they can use them to verify with Amazon and other market places that they are 'real American Business'. Also, the my friend stuff reminds me of a middle eastern merchant always with the my friend my friend.
Nice! Great video Joel!
OMG. This is a horrible situation but hearing you read through the discussion is freaking hilarious!
Always tell them that you will pay the shipping cost once you receive the product. If you want to pay the shipping cost for a free product, that is.
Same thing with the “you have been chosen to receive xx number of million dollars, but you must pay the bank to release them”. I always reply that they can take the release money and subtract from my millions.
We are eager to wait for your XL Review
I had the second one contacting me as well ^^
Smelled the bullshit immediately after having a look at his profile.
I love wasting scammers time as I'm always multitasking so no skin off my nose and its fun to watch them get infuriated with it.
I'd also send all the details you have to there local authorities and to FB/Paypal and Gmail too just to hinder them if only for a little.
Hi Joel, I did made these mistake last year on Facebook, I paid for shipping never heard from them again in person , thankfully payment was via PayPal so they did take care for me with this fraud. Never again ..
Thank you, Joel, very good information
I wrote with a scammer, just to confirm the same method. I insulted the scammer at the end and blocked him 🤣
I was warned by an FB post that this is a scam.
they are the same ones who tried to contact me too. except that I was only asking to contact me with an official email with a contract. as I did for my few reviews.
Great video. I have in the past used whois on compromised websites to find out the owner of the page and then flagged the host that the URL is compromised. I have seen so many hits on pages I manage into our firewalls from India and China especially, and they are using attacks on the site which some people may forget about and could leave a page exposed. Now if a scammer is using a VPN with multiple bounces you can't generally log their IP origin as the VPN server suppresses the man in the middle collection.
A friend of mine works at some of the big Indian tech companies and he says what has been happening is the It industry is very competitive and they only take the lowest wage people, so you get people who work within these companies for a year or so and have experience and this would force a wage increase, but they get paid off. In some instances, the people go on to write the software they used while being in a tech company which would be breach of copywrite or they seek hacking.
This was awesome Joel. I call them out exactly how you did except some of them got rude with me HAH Anytime i see them on the FB 3d forums I go have fun. enjoyed your video
14:45 vat / tax on shipping? I'm not sure any country charges tax on shipping.
I want a 3d printer so bad again it made me so happy , mine crapped out on me I have a bunch of filament I can’t wait to use but just don’t have the fund for another printer
Scams are why I got off Facebook. They refused to do anything to stop the scammers.
it really does seem like that doesn't it. when you're a programmer, it seems very easy to see the platform could easily do something... but they just don't try.
Great vid fella, yeh there are plenty of these scams not only for 3d printers, the craziest one I seen is for a lathe for $49. And if you buy it you get a free gift...the combined values were close to $1000.00, but as you find, this is not the only "guy" doing it, , there were at least 5 such sellers all with same customer service email, and not one ever replied when asked about operating voltage😂😂
I made contact with some 3d printer scammers a few years ago, I think the name of the company was IVI. Unfortunately they made out with some $1.3 million dollars, some of those dollars were mine.
I've seen quite a lot where someone, usually someone either brand new or has never made a post in that group before, will make a post asking things like "why do you think 3D printing has lasted so long?" or "what is the future of 3D printing?". They'll use that engagement to lure people to them then try to say they'll make 3D models for them if they just pay with Bitcoin or something. Sad part is those scammers are more sophisticated than the ones in other hobby groups (most common ones I see otherwise are "I'm blessing the first [###] people to inbox me with [$$$$$]", "I'm giving away a PS5 my child had, but they died and I just can't bear to look at it", and "no one has found the number that's different from the others, find it and I'll give you [$$$]"). It's just so bizarre to me that it's so widespread and that people still fall for the dumbest scam attempts.
Seems to be a lot of scammers out that way
You are way too nice to these thieves.
I work in IT support. over the past 20-ish years, I've seen many services offshored (outsourced) to India.
You can't discuss anything that goes outside the script borders. You can't troubleshoot with them, as logic seems a foreign concept. You always get a "yes-yes" with 0 follow-up, unless excuses that seem invented on the spot by a 10-year old count.
A quick cost-benefit analysis will show that cheap off shore services are actually more expensive.
(I'm convinced there are also proper companies out there, that do provide decent service for the cost... But I've yet to experience them)
Long story short: after a few interactions, I know where these scammers are located.
*sighs* I wish I didn't...
joel i have to say this: for me you are the 3d printing god!
Did you notify PayPal about the compromised account?
First scammer is a bot chat. You can write 1000 messages and still will replay this same thing.
Paused: Location - India?
I would be tempted to make on offer for the shipping, say $5.00, just to see if they bite at all. Or offer to pay $1000 for the printer if they pay the shipping. Then tell them you will pay when the printer arrives.
Just some variation to turn it around for fun.
Very useful video Joel. One of your best.
Glad you think so!
Scammers are just such human garbage.
Can we have more scam content surrounding 3D printing? This was a fun video.
Working on it!
We had one try pulling this on our French-language group yesterday, every top level comment was calling them a scam, scammer started replying in English, asking we prove they were scammers. Something about their account profile tipped me they were in Bengladesh too; so my reply (in English) about how the burden of proof was on them finished with " চোর " which machine translation will tell you means "thief" in Bengali.
So...Love the vid. Love the use of the shortlink. I do have one question. Is it possible that the scammer's were using a compromised device as a proxy server? So that the IP you got, was not their actual IP, but rather the first step in a series of proxy servers? Just a thought.
hopefully this video will help people not get ripped of
I had a Russian scammer call me and was bored, so I kept him on the phone for almost an hour. He told me I had won a cash prize and truck, I just had to pay tax and shipping. After awhile I got bored, told him I wasn't fooled. He called me an asshole and hung up.
The only rule you need for spotting the scams is they want you to send them money before they will send your stuff.
this is comical i had a scammer reach out on a creality machine i added one additional thing when i was in conversation with them about shipping it with shipping cost COD
At 12:48 you suggest putting a message on a piece of paper isn't something that can be faked....what's not the case. It's actually very easy, barely an inconvenience. You should do a collab with some of the scam baiters.
utter facepalm. gotta love scammers :) either the individual you were dealing with isnt a native speaker or that was a bot :)
Brilliant video, thank you.
"Hosan, the miniature Iron Man" creased me up! 🤣
you could off to send a shipping label to their address. See what happens.
What a great and very useful video!
Have you seen the scammer ad that says honest testers needed😅. 1 guy bought 4 used up rolls of filament from a scammer and, asked people on the group page to message Hunter because Hunter blocked him after getting his credit card 😅
No one should purchase anything from Facebook or any other non-licensed retailers.
Even retailers like Amazon can be risky. A friend of mine just purchased a 3d printer halot from Amazon. The package was never delivered but the post office scanned it saying it was.
So he checked his security camera and you never see a delivery being made, yet you do see a USPS truck drive past roughly 1 min before the package is scanned. Suggesting the driver was doing a drive by (they drive past your house so Gps shows they went by and scan the package to fake delivery (this is what happened alot when PS5 was released)).
He's contacted both USPS and Amazon, Amazon refuses to do anything because the package is marked as delivered.
They recommend a police report be filed before a refund can be processed. Yet for the USPS to investigate their employee, they have to be given the opportunity to investigate themselves before a police report is filed.
So it's a cluster-f*ck. Nothing like having to wait months for resolution and a new package delivered because one scumbag wanted to steal.
Point being there is always risk with purchasing and these videos illustrating such are useful.
Good work Joel
You have a lot of patience! 😅 This will help some people...
I wonder how many people actually fall for this scam. I would hope, since 3d printing is a relatively techy area, people must be aware this can't be legit
I have had a scammer try to get me they will have use paypal and send the money as family and friend obviously don't do this because if it turns out to be a scam you can't get your money back.
Nice job Joel, thanks for the info :)
Thanks for the info
the chargers moved to los angeles like... 2 years ago?
So glad i left social media and ill apologize but its probably only a matter of time before i leave youtube too i will miss the legit conent but i wont miss the clickbait at all
One thing we all have to learn from this video, don't click on links from unknown sources. Even if it's from a known UA-camr.
The Ruck Fobocalls guy is great at scam baiting.
Thanks for the heads up
make them send it and then you give them shipping cost.
this scam is everywhere even in my country Facebook Group
My two year old son was very certain the second scammer was playing dumb...
Joel, Thanks for doing this and publishing the video. I also enjoy entertaining scammers, but soon get bored with it. I have found some in the US that are selling a real product, car repair insurance coverage. It is so over priced and difficult to obtain service that I consider it a scam. Lots of fun to talk to them and ask why I can obtain insurance from the car manufacturer for less than 1/2 the price and get service from any dealer.
Oohh my partner had a msg from Peng tang last week asking for 75usd shipping 😂 I told him it's a scam, he was like no it's not its real 😂 luckily he didn't send him anything. 👍
thanks for showing us this information.
did you also ask Kokoni about their scam with their awesome MMU and super fast and silent machine.
Very interesting and useful video thank you.
Very interesting Joel, thank you.
My guess is India. Scamming is big business there.
Chances are that the don't even speak English, which is why they stick to scripted messages. When they DO deviate from their script, it's probably with the help of Google Translate.
Simple solution. Insist on COD (Cash on Delivery). That's the way it used to be when you mail ordered something.
Kinda feels like the third scammer, beyond the "no, YOU are a scammer", tried to put on the guilt. It at least felt a bit more like human responses at times, though based on your Twitter, Peng Tang became surprisingly human in his language 😂
I almost typed in the address you sent them in the video before finding out it was an IP logger, whoops.
I would've expected something similar from pleasant green. You both need to make a collaboration video!
I'm willing to bet there are bots behind at least some of the communication.
Also got a message last week, just talked to them a bit and then I reported and blocked
Mine was called " Alia Printing "
Banks should blacklist scammers.
Those are bots you were "talking" to. Quite a few of those replies sounded like it was from an AI bot. Most scams are from India too, there are entire offices dedicated to scamming people.
Bruh, you doxxed that guy.
These are scambots...lol...how infuriating.
Great vid ty
Maybe they accept Google Play "shipping" cards to cover shipping.
There are also a LOT OF telegram scammers in the comment section of youtube videos using nearly similar usernames as the youtube channel. "You have won this or that." etc.