We had a young man show up at our church LITERALLY on hardcore drugs several months ago. Elders layed hands on him, prayed with him. He has continued to come and is now totally sober almost 2 months now. He was shown love but no one cosigned drug use.
Well that's true, but Paul said God would judge them and we should judge the church. Meanwhile we have yoga in church, sports watching, people living together before marriage, people taking birth control, masons in the church, gossip, women speaking in the church etc.
@@prezofutubeBut those are not the things people on tiktok are speaking against. They are advocating for more of such sin in the church. That was the point of this video. I think everyone here understands that those things should not be happening.
@prezofutube yeah Church discipline is a dead concept because we've clung to grace, mercy, and love. God is all of those things, but he's also just. Paul even teaches church discipline in the manner that a parent disciplines: you rebuke and then excommunicate with the hope it will bring that believer back.
Walking into a church and getting angry that they want you to stop sinning is like walking into an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting and getting angry that they want you to stop drinking. Why are you even there, then?
Or it’s like going to the gym and telling the trainer that you don’t want any instruction or motivation; you just want to sit in the corner to absorb the atmosphere of health and hope that it makes you a better person.
Reasons I stopped participating on Reddit’s Christian sub. Unbelievers randomly sneak in without disclosing what they believe but then get upset and combative when they’re answered with anything biblical. As much as they accuse the church of needing everything to be Christian, they can barely tolerate clearly labeled Christian spaces…and won’t listen when that’s pointed out to them.
It's so wild to me that these people say that the gospel needs to change to match with the morals of this time. What is moral doesn't change, evil is evil no matter what century you are in
I'm in my thirties. I've seen the publicly accepted truths ebb and weave. I personally think that is all leading people through the wide path. If they take the narrow path it is more difficult but infinitely richer.
I know! To be so entitled to think that your generation has the ability to "update" the word of God.. But really they just don't want to admit that their lifestyle doesn't align with the Bible, so they want to change the Bible to align with their lifestyle.
Jesus will accept you as you are, but he won't leave you that way. That's not love. It's no different than if your child is an addict, it's not loving to enable them to keep destroying themselves.
Everyone is falling for the false religion that promotes mixing worldly ways of living and views with what is of God’s way of living and what he commands. They want to serve two masters and make excuses for it to make themselves feel better about themselves. They want to find a way to blame God for everything they disagree with, that goes wrong in their lives, but not themselves and other people for being the actual causes.
The thing that blew my mind about homosexuality was when it was explained to me that homosexuality being part of your ingrained personal identity was a more modern concept. I always heard people say "but in Ancient Greece and Rome it was perfectly acceptable, in the middle ages it was an identity thing." And then I did a class on Ancient Greek culture and found out that NO, homosexualtiy was NOT normalised in Ancient Greek culture, and that worse, this was a point that angered Greek people because of the bastardisation of their culture for someone else's political agenda. For the longest time it wasn't considered part of ones ingrained identity, but an act or action one engaged in, and some may have personal preference for. Same with p*dophiles- we don't treat minor attracted people as normal. We treat their attractions as a separable action. There are a lot of s*xual cases where we as people choose when to accept it as ok and part of unchangeable personal identity, and when we don't like it and decide to define it as an action separate from the inner person. That's part of why I love God's consistency through the ages: because he doesn't change to our personal whims and desires. This, and the Lord, are what helped me overcome. The burning of my heart for Christ was stronger than my sin when I let in the Holy Spirit, and it broke those chains. I thought "maybe I'll just believe in God and never get married," but no. God saved me. He took my trials and difficulties and helped me break free. Of course there are still a lot of sins and trials in my life, but God is more powerful. For non-believers, this topic probably isn't for you. We as believers understand you don't follow our ways, and don't have reason to ask you to follow the laws of something you don't believe in. But for other believers, we must keep each other accountable.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. Such WERE some of you. We must be Washed by His blood, Sanctified (trained up in the ways of The Lord), and then Justified in the name of Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God (allowing ourselves to be led by the Holy Spirit).
On this first one, to be fair, when I moved to Appleton Wisconsin many years ago, one of the first things I did was find a gay friendly Church. I attended there for quite a while. I really enjoyed the people. But at some point, I started noticing that they would accept anything BUT Jesus. I couldn't help but to ask myself why. This question was the very first tugged thread which eventually unraveled my misconceptions about God. Long story short, I ended up coming to Jesus in a big way. At this point, I have left the lesbian lifestyle and been happily married to my husband for over 10 years. God can use any situation to bring us to himself.
It's so great to hear all of this testimony that God can, in fact, wash His children of homosexual desires, and that those desires aren't an inseparable, indomitable part of one's identity-because that's the message we hear nowadays, especially teenagers like me in public schools.
@@wafflesauceyit's more like getting you to desire him in your heart and then it quiets the sinful desires the closer you get to him. He doesn't do anything that you are unwilling to allow in your heart. This misconception about immediate transformation is confusing because it's false. God is patient... We aren't and expect immediate answers and works or miracles and we expect them to be exactly as we think they should be. We tout immediate/ miracle transformation because we think that glorifies God. This too is our own misguided understanding of his glory. If you receive a dog and it took 5 seconds to train him so he understands every command and does everything perfect... Does it glorify you when he sits or rolls over on command or does it make people want / envy your dog? He can train you instantly, but it's better for you if he doesn't because you will be glorified and this is actually not helpful for you... Though it might be desired by your mind it is your heart and mind that he judges.
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts;
As a recovering alcoholic (who’s never shown up to church drunk btw, but has hungover in the past without making it obvious) many churches and Christians don’t want to hear about addictions or the mental health issues associated with addictions. Anything not positive messes with their image. I’ve been told things like I need an exorcist for anxiety disorder, and to just have more faith in general so it all goes away. While I don’t agree with everything she’s saying, more Christians and more churches need to be real. Not in a way of “love you as you are don’t improve” but in a way of “be honest and we will still love you and walk with you through this.” I’m blessed to have found a Bible-preaching, God-fearing church where the congregation - from the pastor to the newest member - are real about what’s going on in our lives. It’s changed my life and my walk with God.
I get what you're saying. I've decided, that within my congregation, I'm going to set an example in being real. I openly admit to my own shortcomings and ask questions of others encouraging them to admit to theirs. Once they've opened up a bit, I try to make them feel comfortable in sharing, and then turn the conversation right back to the Lord's mercy. I might say something like, "Well, we can both praise God for his Mercy. After all, that's why we're here." I think people just need that reminder sometimes... Particularly those who grew up in church culture.
As Jesus taught, you know a tree by its fruit. If you go to a church and the message you hear is one of desired appearance and hiding your blemishes, there’s a good chance that everyone in that building is putting on a religious face and hiding their pet sins. This would be a spiritually dead church, white washed tomb, maybe there is genuine belief maybe there is not. On the other hand brother or sister, you find a real church built on preaching the true gospel of deadness in sin and need for repentance and what a glorious work God does in those bodies of believers to transform sinners. I’m happy for you and praise God for providing us local churches with genuine believers and pastors.
There's certainly a lot we could do better with, and there's an organization called Teen Challenge that helps teens struggling with addiction, and someone related to one of my friends recently did a talk about his only struggle with drug addiction. We need to bring such things into the light.
@@christopherderrig3671 Sounds kind of like an assumption. Don't judge a book by its cover, Even if the book seems very close to that. But I know the Bible didn't say don't judge or to "be nice", but is does say judge with righteous judgement and do to others what you want others to do to you.
@@girlforJesus7843 ok and my point was the people that "attend" church without hearing the message. Are normally the ones that do want stuff handed to them without the hard work. Being a Christian is work more then just looking good and going to church. It is a daily struggle combating sin and temptation. Yes the Bible says we are saved by grace and faith in Jesus but we still have to bear our cross and follow Jesus and that is different for every Christian. And I have never seen a real christian just lay there and not work everyday to be a good Christian and person.
“The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Cor 2:14).
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. (Matthew 10:34-36)
@@AliciaGarciaWebit hurts because theyre disrespecting you and youre allowing your husband to manipulate your kids into joining in. This is his insecurity. You need to grow a backbone and be bold in God. Your husband is going to send your kids to hell, do you want that?
"I'm a deep skeptic and also a pastor." There is only one reason a "deep skeptic" becomes a pastor, to be a false shepherd. Everything he said was intended to lead the church away from the gospel of Christ.
You're incredibly mistaken, here and are likely mistaking skeptic for "cynic." Josh Mc Dowell, for example, was a militant skeptic, who set out to prove the Bible was wrong. He approached it with intellectual honesty and fervent skepticism, and got completely saved. The Bereans were skeptics. They went home after sermons and searched the scriptures. Paul admonished all of us to be like that.
@@aaronwalcott513The usage of “skeptic” in modern society - especially in a self-identifying context - generally is understood as referring to an agnostic or atheistic perspective and critical framework.
@@aaronwalcott513There is a massive difference between the people of Josh's time and the people of today. People can say they're looking for the truth but the moment they happen upon it, the person who is saying it is a hateful bigot, a transphobe etc. Feelings and "their truth" is what triumphs over everything for them. That fact was shown over and over again in this video and many others like it out there. Feelings and progressive this and that. Love to them is affirming everything they think, feel, or believe to be "their truth". With zero care for what the truth or way actually is.
Come as you are...but don't stay as you are. I am not the same person I was before I walked in the church several years ago after many years. The day I was baptized I became a whole new person
Imagine going to the doctor and the doc saying, "Yeah, you've got cancer. Don't worry. It's totally natural, and you're going to die from it. We're very accepting of cancer here at this hospital. We affirm sickness of all kinds."
At @23:00 - my pastor’s wife loves to tell how welcomed and loved she was walking into a church as an unwed mother in a mini skirt and crop top - the people there recognized she was hurting and lost and seeking a better life, and they welcomed her in. We are always supposed to meet people where they’re at. But she doesn’t dress that way NOW, because her life has been transformed, and she wants to live in a way that honors God (and her husband and kids).
It's not the church's job to save anyone, that's how you get authoritarian maniacs forcing or even coercing native populations to convert, its an individual persons choice to make and one only between him and God to save himself. It is the church's job to serve but by serving it does not mean being a pushover. It's a hospital not a club house or activist organization, and sometimes the hospital needs to reject certain people who don't have interest in getting better or they're pain med chasing_ looking for an escape/ not there for the right reasons.
@@copperdragon5512 1 Corinthians 9:22 KJVS To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
“The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.” ― William Booth (Salvation Army Founder) Nailed it! He was discussing the 1900's not the 2000's. LOL
@@MeanBeanComedy They don't reject many christian precepts, however, I agree that they do not practise communion and baptism as a whole. That doesn't mean that their members cannot be baptised elsewhere if desired and that they cannot take communion in their homes (William Booth did) or smaller groups.
I left a church headed toward being progressive, because the pastor said to me he believes you can be a practicing homosexual, but when I questioned him on it he said, among many other incorrect beliefs, “I just want people to love like Jesus did.” The video man’s critique is actually dangerous in that “people” have redefined love, but God’s love will be found in the Bible, which so many DO NOT READ!!!
I'd recommend you check out Redeemed Zoomer and his "Reconquista Map" to see if there are any orthodox Protestant churches near you that you can attend instead. Endless retreat will never work, but if you and yours can migrate to a church in the same town in the same denomination that's not progressive, you can regain lost ground long-term.
Is dressing in the Bible anywhere or anything similar? Or is it mainly to not cause others to sin/lust(potentially)? Like when Paul doesn't eat meat sacrificed to Pagan gods to not lead others astray.. Even though he ate it alone cause the meat itself is fine to eat as a Christian. Is this the best example?
@@Yo-0o0o0o0o Yes. The Bible often speaks of how women (and men) are to dress modestly. Don't encourage lust by revealing oneself, Don't desire to be listed after by revealing oneself. We are royalty through Our Heavenly Father adopted into the family through the blood of Christ and we have royal robes of dignity. Since when are queens and princesses valued more for showing more skin to anyone that will look? Yes the Bible (and Jesus) also say that if looking at a person inspires you to sin, you should look away and get control of yourself. It also says that it's better to cut your own hand off than to make someone else stumble. Treat oneself with respect and dignity. Treat others with respect and dignity. Just because the laws of the land allow me to be naked - does that make it good in God's eyes? The Bible says no.
I would love some prayers for one of my new coworkers. She just started 1 week ago, and we've been getting along pretty well. We were walking and chatting after work today, and she said she's bi/gay, and that she's interested in religion as an intellectual concept but not as a belief system. I asked her what makes her agnostic, and she said church trauma, how when she was growing up she was like yelled at across the street by Christians saying she's gonna go to hell because she's gay. I don't know how real that is since I wasn't there, but my response was that I'm sorry she was mistreated, and that as a Christian I do believe that being gay is a sin, but that it's not the end-all-be-all of faith. The most important part is accepting God's offer of a relationship with him, that her being gay isn't some nail in the coffin, and that I think the purpose of religion is whether it's true or not, not how people who follow it treat people. Look at the message, not the messenger. And how I'm not one to judge her for anything, since I have my own issues. She seemed to be relatively accepting of my perspective, and we left it at that. I'm praying - and hoping to get some prayers - that I can be a light to her to hopefully break the "church trauma" of past negative experiences with church people, and to be able to separate it from whether it's true or not and hopefully come to accept God's offer of life and a relationship with her creator. Thank you for your help.
Good on you for doing God's work by talking with and praying for them. I think it's worth always remembering that it's not you or anyone else that has something against them as a gay it's the bible. Secondly, I would suggest checking out Openness Unhindered by Rossaria Butterfield. A very powerful story of an ex lesbian woman who very articulately draws the link between homosexuality and the sin of pride. Perhaps start it just yourself but with the aim of having your colleague receptive to it later. Good luck and keep it up.
@@MeanBeanComedy I can definitely understand that. But I have to work with her regardless (it's a yearly contract position), and I was able to have a conversation in which I told her directly to her face that I think she's sinning and she doesn't hate my guts, so I'm hopeful God put me in this situation for a reason.
Slow and steady. You may not see the end results of working with her. Just being kind, answering truthfully, and carefully explaining things will go a long way. Even if she hates teachings about sin and hell, you treating her like a fellow human made in God’s image can help her see that calling out sin isn’t the same as degrading someone.
On marriage. If you are being married in the eyes of God, then you dont get to decide who God recognizes as married. I never understood the purpose of a group who doesnt believe in scripture, forcing people who do to go against it. Its like they want you to accept your corruption. Its some dark stuff. And you cant enter into a debate with them as they either stonewall or escape, they continue to spew their selfdeception to others without any kind of tether.
This whole video reminded me of one of my favorite quotes from a pastor at a youth conference when I was young: “God loves you, and will meet you where you’re at. But He doesn’t want to leave you like that.”
God says it is a NARROW path to get to Heaven and join Him in His glory, and that none of us can walk it on our own. Socially but also spiritually. It's not loving to let people hurt themselves. 😢
Do you understand what the narrow path from Matthew 7:13 is? If you think it is about abstaining from sin or working your way to be some undefined “better” person, you are likely unsaved. Instead, the narrow path is Jesus-the Way, the Truth, and the Life. This verse has nothing to do with how you live. It’s not about the sinner, it’s about the Savior. Believe by faith alone today for permanent, irrevocable salvation. John 3:16, John 3:36, Titus 3:5, 1 John 5:13.
This should be in EVERY Church "What we believe" statement. It is the second greatest commandment, second only to "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength" - Deuteronomy 6:5. "You SHALL NOT HATE your brother in your heart. You SHALL SURELY REBUKE your neighbor, and NOT bear sin because of him. You SHALL NOT take vengeance, NOR bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you SHALL LOVE your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord." - Leviticus 19:17-18
Funny enough, Ferrari's specifically have in the contract when you buy them that you can not buy them specifically for the purposes of breaking them down, damaging, or otherwise destroying them.
What the world gets confused is that, we want all people in the church, but we do not want your beliefs, you come to church to receive our beliefs in Christ and be saved. If you do not want these beliefs you have a freedom not to be part of a fellowship. The apostle Paul took people out of fellowships who came with their own beliefs. He was so drastic about this he would go to places where no one else had build a foundation, so that through his foundation (Gospel) people could build on top of it. No other foundation can be put.
“Reach the world one person at a time as we learn to think, love, and live like Jesus, and reproduce that in the lives of others” -My church’s mission statement
The first commandment is Love God, the second is love others. Christians often forget both. If you show up naked, my desire would be to clothe you with my back turned as Noahs sons Japheth and Shem in Genesis 9:18-27. This following the commandment of Christ that to clothe those in need is to clothe Him -Mathew 25:34 - 40. We as christians show love by not leaving people in thier brokeness but by showing the love of Christ which comes with change inside and out. You may show up naked, dirty and hungry but my desire is that you leave cleansed by His blood, covered in His mercy, and fed by His word.
My husband is wonderful! He has a genetic condition that makes him have really bad knees, which obviously affects jobs, but he has fought so hard to make sure that I feel loved and supported. Neither of us are perfect, but we’re also very conscious about supporting each other. I’m so excited to spend the rest of my life with him!
These people are very confused concerning the Bible and the Word. They picture the God of the Bible bending to their wills. What utter selfishness and lack of commitment. With all that's going on in the world, we believers have plenty to pray about.💖💖🙏
18:00 Regarding the young lady who says the church shouldn't use "outdated" ideas, I just made an interesting connection. This idea that the word of God should "evolve" with society, runs exactly parallel with the idea that we have evolved as human beings. This is where the concept of evolution and the beleif that we are descended from the animal Kingdom, contaminates the idea that we are made in the image of God. His image never changes, but humans beleive we are ever-changing. This perfectly illustrates how the explanations of evolution and creation are in perfect contradiction to one another.
Uiii - the motives of the first young lady 🙈 BUT when I came to church the first time, it was because it was my best friends birthday wish that I come with her. I had no interest at all. BUT the gospel hit me that day & I follow Jesus since that day! 16 years now! So let's pray for that Lady. My friends did exactly the same back than for me 🙏
8:22 my church posts a "What we believe" and a "Guiding Principles" section on our site. The "What we believe" is strictly the creeds that state the Law and Gospel. The "Guiding Principles" is where the teachings come in. This is where we say that serving is an act of love and that we are to boldly share the Lord's grace and love.
Dear Wise Disciple, I only recently found your channel but wish I found it earlier! Thank you so much for presenting the scripture so well and talking through silly internet opinions on our beautiful faith. I truly believe the Lord is calling you to do this. Thank you so much for everything. God bless
God says come as you are. But he's doesn't say stay where you were. In fact, he commands us to repent and follow him. That's what baptism represents. That the old you is dead, the new you is raised with Christ.
Someone walks into a firehouse while on fire. Firefighters immediately start trying to put the fire out to save the guy. One person crosses his arms and shakes his head at how intolerant the firefighters are for not accepting the flames.
@@wafflesaucey Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’" -John 3:1-7
@@wafflesaucey Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?" -Matthew 16:24-26
@@StageWatcher I do like those verses, but I never stopped to think about how spiritual rebirth can take away sinful desires that you left the womb with.
People forget that the Gospel is a funnel, sieve, filter and sorter rolled into one. Jesus is the ONLY Way. That by itself shows God's exclusivity, not inclusivity.
All these people have one thing in common. They want the church to bend to their needs and desires! Being a Christian is about submitting to God’s authority! Nobody ever thinks maybe it is I who should change! Maybe I should examine MY heart! Could it be that MY values are wrong! All of these have such a self centered arrogant attitude!
As for the guy who talked about love being in a church’s belief statements…just one push back. The most important thing isn’t loving people, it’s loving God. Out of that love for God comes an overflow of love, Godly love, for others. When we put the love of others above our love for God, it creates a false type of love for others that never brings them into what God has for them. It creates compromise against what God’s Word says and, as said in the video, leads to spiritual death.
We once had a man walk into our church, he was in a terrible state looked like a mess and was acting highly distressed. We did not just send him straight into the pews to sit with the other parishioners, he was intercepted by the staff they found out he was in crisis, my husband who is a trained crisis counselor took him aside and spoke to him and the situation de-escalated. If someone comes to church topless or in a crop top or whatever, I think the duty of the church staff is to see them, and then do outreach directly too them, not just say nothing, no judgment, and let them sit there.
Craig Groeschel (who I dont agree with on everything, but do on this) told a story of when he was young and started working in ministry. Someone arrived at church who was new. She was stopped before she entered by a man who told her “Young lady, is that the best outfit you have? Because in our church, we wear our best for God.” The woman left before she entered the church and likely never came back. Sadly probably had a hard time trying another church too, if she ever did. The woman in this video went a bit extreme with her example, but there are too many people who care more about how someone looks and how their church looks than about about the actual person. This seems to happen less than it did in years past (in many areas at least) but it still happens too often, especially with women. I’ve had to check my own heart about it, too.
This is one of the reasons I wear the same dress each Sunday. I’m a PK and my mom was big on how we appeared to the rest of the congregation. It got to a point where it was the end of the world if I wore the same thing two Sundays in a row, so now I wear the same thing every Sunday both to undo that mindset and as a symbol that I need a renewed spirit, not a renewed outfit.
I used to work and attend a new age church. It’s a big mega church. (Not naming names cause they are huge.) Hint though. Huge church located near Denver… I found out the church pastor doesn’t write his own sermons, he only shows up to the church for a couple hours a week, and he makes 315k a year. Some amazing Godly people attend that church who I have no doubt they are saved but most of the elders of that church need to repent. They throw giant galas and parties that have nothing to do with the Lord. Nothing. They spend tithe money on new furniture for the main pastors office almost every 3 months. I know that cause I was the one who always had to unload and put them together. So much corruption. That church only preaches what the government wants them to. I love the lord! I have found an incredible church that does incredible in depth study of the Bible! Right now we are in Philippians ❤️ Do I have church hurt? Yes. Not Jesus hurt. ❤️
Nate, you have such a gift. The Ferrari analogy was so well done and told probably gonna have to take that one lol. Just wanted to stop by and say great work keep it up. God bless.
I have to say, I was struggling with my with my walk, but your videos really helped. You don't talk through feelings or opinion you go straight to the word and that has been instrumental to me. Thank you!
The reason I stopped going to a building for "church" wasn't because it wasn't liberal enough. I'm a conservative Christian, former elder in two churches, taught Sunday School, involved in dozens of ministries, volunteered for numerous things, was once on paid staff as youth director. I love Jesus, at least as much as one crippled by ugly, self-inflicted sin can. It was because church after church was becoming led by sociopaths and narrcissists who only cared about their power and control. It was because people took the word "pastor," which shows up once in the singular in the entire Bible, 4th in a list of 5 gifts useful for the Church (note, not a title, just a gift) and turned it into a CEO/ruler position that one must be "covered" by, that one must "come under the authority" of. That's a position that does NOT exist in the New Testament. It's a level of authority that the Apostle Paul (who gave up everything, was imprisoned, stoned and even killed for the Church) never came close to claiming. Yet, some punk in tight jeans who would likely run screaming at the first sign of persecution or paunchy, middle-aged mediocrity who never got a speck of dirt under his nails, would stand up there every Sunday and demand your attention and insist that you pay his way and put him in comfort. And there was Paul, working blue collar labor to be a burden to no one, not demanding subservience like these frauds, but beseeching people to follow his example. I just got sick of the pampered frauds and their lazy followers who'd torn on you like flying monkeys if you raised an honest question.
Home churcher here! Corporate Christianity is an issue many are struggling with. Lots of Church-Hurt going around. Gathering with believers is not only important, it is a command. Find some real believers around you, find a place to meet up, and study the Bible! But make sure to study the whole Bible, especially if those parts make you uncomfy.
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.” 2 Timothy 4:3-5
Jesus didn't say that "loving people" was THE most important thing. He said loving God is #1, and to love your neighbor. See if you love God first, you'll love His teachings first, which means when you love "people", you'll love the soul but not confuse love with acceptance of behavior and activity that God does not like. That is why you must love God first, so you can love with God's love, when you love your neighbor. That means loving every single person with God's love. That means loving people you don't like, with God's love. It means treating those you disagree with, in a kind way. It doesn't mean that you accept sin or celebrate things that are not of God. You can love and should love sinners. We're ALL sinners.
The last guy sounded like, "Bow the Bible and your pastoral leadership down to the culture. You must serve the culture. Whatever they say, whatever they want, if you don't meet them there, then you're not going to be a loving church." Man, Satan has done some "good" work on these people, in the sense that he's confused so many people who believe they're acting in God's name, but in fact are working against God and worshipping the culture. I hate to imagine how many of these people, and the people they led, will end up before Christ, with the Lord saying to them "I never knew you."
WOW!! Second clip is from a church I used to attend years ago. They went off the deep end! My ex also attends that church and they helped him walk away from my kids and I to live as a woman. My ex is now living as a woman attending that church with HIS new wife. I tell everyone I know not to attend that church!
God is exclusive there is a narrow path. If you don't fit the path you don't enter the kingdom. It doesn't change now because of new age thought or desire. It just doesn't work that way.
When I found your channel I was bummed to hear you no longer lived in Vegas. And you never mention the church u were at I was praying for a good biblical church &then you had Chuck on and I now go to life for the last few months &love it thank you for doing what ur doing. Btw you need Chuck on again he and the church have been such a blessing.❤
I'll be honest, I hear this kind of stuff and pray for them but also myself. I'm no less prone to foolish thinking than they are. I've experienced so many situations where I've realized through reading scripture or listening to sermons that my entire attitude about some facet of life has been wrong. Not just believing the wrong things, but having the entire wrong framework for thinking about the issue. Who knows what ignorant frameworks I still have that God is leading me out of.
Truthfully, my journey with Christianity started like that girl who wanted to hang out with her friends. Before my grandpa died, he made me promise to go back to church. It took around 3 months for my best friend to convince me to go to church with him. And when I went, I bawled my eyes out. But that freedom to let out my emotions; that was what I chased for the next month, and rapidly over the past four years, I have gone from loathing God to pursuing God. It has made me so much happier, so much more joyful. So I just pray that the people who get up and go to church for all the wrong reasons can have their eyes opened like mine were, and really pursue God for the right reasons. I still have a lot of ways that I need to grow, but I’m a lot better than I used to be. And it’s through His word, His power that I am the man I am today.
My issue with the church I am going to is the detachment of people coupled with a constant message of "obey the church" with a aide of "you're bad." I arrived at the church after having a deep loss through a trafic accident. I was promised aid as I moved to my new place that never came. And whemever I go to church, I sit by myself and hear the same type of message. If Jesus' love and compassion is referenced 5% of the times, its enough. And while was healing, the pastors dropped a person from church I barely knew that was homeless for me to host them. After that, I barely had money saved because I had to spend on this person. Loads of issues there but, I am looking for a new church. I dont mind preaching the realities of The Word. But everytime I go there, I feel like I am preparing for a boxing match.
Yikes, yeah those are some red flags and I’m glad you got out. A healthy church gives opportunities to serve without twisting your arm and ideally would help you with your own needs as a member of the family of God.
The ferrari example is also like "You bought a ferarri to go fast. You go 20 over the speed limit and get a ticket. You get angry at the cop for giving you a ticket. You go 100 over the limit on the highway and get into a crash, and yet you get angry at the person you killed in the crash. Because they had the gall to be going the speed limit and honked to get you to slow down."
On March 26th 2022, just past midnight, I was restless in bed, my limbs became numb & tingly, my chest became tight, & my heart felt like it was being crushed. So I sang out to God and Jesus, about my pain, my feelings, my faults and my inabilities.
As I sang, I began to feel like a river, & a hand was on my back, it's fingers where skimming the surface of the waters, separating the waters, causing ripples through my body. Then the hand reached inside my chest, lit my heart on fire, & the heat moved like waves through my body. When I was done singing, all the pain was gone, & I looked at the clock, it was past 1am, I had sang near an hour.
Then the voice of my guardian angel called my name from above, & there was a hymn of energy in the air, the same hymn I hear in my dreams of God. Glory, Honor, blessings, thanks and praise to the Lord my God, for healing my heart during a heart attack! Hallelujah to the Lord my God for healing my heart! Hallelujah for His son Jesus for saving my soul! Hallelujah for every day! Hallelujah for every breath! The Lord is Faithful and true! The kingdom of Heaven is at hand! May the Lord Bless your hearts, so that you have the will and strength to turn from selfish sins, and flee from the slaveries of the flesh!
What these tiktokers are sayinng isn't a misunderstanding, rather it is a spiritual problem. Jesus stated that the Word of God is like a sword that cuts. They are going to church and the Word of God is cutting into their heart and mind, yet, they reject the Holy Spirit is helping them see the light. They choose to be in darkness, instead of allowing the light to change them for good.
Thank you so much Nate, while these people's words pained me greatly, your words brought me peace. We must stand strong for Jesus and keep God's word and hide it in our hearts to reflect on . I am so blessed to be a member of a church that stays true to the word of God and has for all this time. I have been a member since Feb. of 1997 and my husband and I were married in the church in Dec. of 1997. While we have had some different Pastors in our church, they have always kept to the Word of God and have never wavered.
The asian lady just doesn't understand what the church is, she is talking about us changing to get more followers like it is a recruitment drive for a club. That is what we would do if all we cared about is numbers but we care about making followers of Gods word not just pumping numbers up.
I was selling my stuff at a festival and I said to a young girl who asked me about it and then left as she was leaving with her mother , I said have a blessed day and she asked her mother what does that mean. Now she was in her teens and didn't know what that word ment. I was saddened and prayed for her and her mother.
Yeah, we’re at a point where younger kids don’t know much about the Bible or religious words and older kids/young adults have a distorted idea of certain concepts. I’ve gone from assuming people know what I’m talking about to assuming we probably aren’t on the same page until it’s clearer.
My son who has ASD got me to church again. We starting looking for a family friendly church for him, one which would let him wear his ear defenders and allow him to explore his relationship with Jesus. Now we are members of a vineyard church. He loves it. Me and my 9yr old got baptised together in February. We have a lovely church family. His dad has started praying again agter years. My son brought us back to church.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
These people just want to feel comfortable in their sin. God isn't changing His word for anyone. He's the same yesterday, today, and forever more. You either follow God's word or you don't. One comes with rewards, and the other comes with consequences. It's your choice.
I'm sorry Nate, but at the 9:29 minute mark the statement that "Loving your neighbor as yourself" as what Jesus taught as what "sums up absolutely everything" is absolutely WRONG! When asked what the GREATEST commandment IS, Jesus replied, quoting Deuteronomy 6:4-9 Hear, O Israel; The Lord or God is one. You shall love the the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might." Loving GOD sums up absolutely EVEYTHING. The SECOND half of his reply is: AND you shall love your neighbor as yourself. The world has left off the true message in its misguided belief that loving people fulfils the command, when in reality, serving man without obedience to God is explained clearly in Matthew 7:21-23. Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord", will enter the kingdom of heaven, BUT THE ONE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty WORKS in your name (fill in your earthly "love your neighbor" works here)? And then I will declare to them, "I NEVER KNEW you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
I immediately paused to type this same comment. To not mention loving God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength is to miss our purpose in life. To love others as ourselves is to fulfill the rest of the law and is our mission on earth. I know Nate preaches this. Not sure why he didn’t mention it.
@@secondratefilms635 Exactly! And if I might take your reply one step further, to " Love others as ourselves" means pointing them to the Father, through the Son, by the Spirit. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with US accepting them here on earth. We and our opinions of others do not count.
@@secondratefilms635@johnmachado8838 A human being, that you agree with mind you, didn’t mention exactly what you wanted to, so you jump down his throat and nitpick? Yikes…
@@davecrumbcake450a human being, who agreed with a video but who had something constructive and important to add to the conversation, commented, and you jump to criticizing and shaming him? Yikes...
@@avidaddison985 Good afternoon. I'm not sure to whom you're referring, but none of my comments and replies have any intent to criticize or shame anyone. In fact, it's quite the opposite. As Nate himself often quotes, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good works - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (ESV)" As born again, Bible believing followers of Yeshua, it is our responsibility to encourage, and yes, CORRECT, each other as we learn, grow, and walk. You will find many times throughout scripture when Yeshua corrected his followers, and tauhgt them to do the same. True love in Messiah is not encouraging incorrect theology, but as "iron sharpens iron", challenging each other to "study to show yourself approved, a workman that needeth NOT to be ashamed, RIGHTLY dividing the word of Truth. Have a blessed day.❤️
She sounds like I did before I encountered Jesus. I was into most of the new age ideologies. The last thing I said to God before I walked into Calvary was, “don’t think about turning me into a Jesus freak” I walked into that church, the Holy Spirit grabbed a hold of me and I came to Christ a few weeks later. Now I talk about Jesus to everyone and I wouldn’t have it any other way. When you meet the Lord there is NO DENYING how real and how alive He truly is. He will change your life but you have to let him. Be guided by the spirit and READ THE BIBLE. It’s His words. Everything happening in the world is all written down in there and so is the escape plan! 🙌🏻 ✝️🙌🏻
"Come as you are" doesn't mean "leave as you are."
Dude, that’s good
That's so good!
I love this
Woah. Ok. That was good.
Amen!!!
We had a young man show up at our church LITERALLY on hardcore drugs several months ago. Elders layed hands on him, prayed with him.
He has continued to come and is now totally sober almost 2 months now.
He was shown love but no one cosigned drug use.
The Asian lady says you should've kept injecting him, just so he doesn't lose his buzz and harshen his vibes.
Cosigned drug use huh?????
You obviously know nothing about drugs hun.
@@BanronSThat means no one was okay with it, no one "affirmed" his use, instead they showed they desired his sobriety.
@@smokyquartz5817 i know a lot about drugs, been sober for a decade now. What doesn't he know, in your mind?
Jesus never taught tolerance of sin. He taught us to repent and turn away from sin. Period.
AMEN!!
Well that's true, but Paul said God would judge them and we should judge the church. Meanwhile we have yoga in church, sports watching, people living together before marriage, people taking birth control, masons in the church, gossip, women speaking in the church etc.
@@prezofutubeBut those are not the things people on tiktok are speaking against. They are advocating for more of such sin in the church. That was the point of this video. I think everyone here understands that those things should not be happening.
Amen to that! And then forgiveness in the face of genuinely walked repentance. :)
@prezofutube yeah Church discipline is a dead concept because we've clung to grace, mercy, and love. God is all of those things, but he's also just. Paul even teaches church discipline in the manner that a parent disciplines: you rebuke and then excommunicate with the hope it will bring that believer back.
Walking into a church and getting angry that they want you to stop sinning is like walking into an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting and getting angry that they want you to stop drinking. Why are you even there, then?
Or it’s like going to the gym and telling the trainer that you don’t want any instruction or motivation; you just want to sit in the corner to absorb the atmosphere of health and hope that it makes you a better person.
Reasons I stopped participating on Reddit’s Christian sub. Unbelievers randomly sneak in without disclosing what they believe but then get upset and combative when they’re answered with anything biblical. As much as they accuse the church of needing everything to be Christian, they can barely tolerate clearly labeled Christian spaces…and won’t listen when that’s pointed out to them.
Soon we are going to start saying alcoholism is something people need to accept
Unless the church teaches people to hate and take away rights from others.
@@user-sc5rc1mb6nsome rights aren't biblical or right, like a man in women sports
It's so wild to me that these people say that the gospel needs to change to match with the morals of this time. What is moral doesn't change, evil is evil no matter what century you are in
I'm in my thirties. I've seen the publicly accepted truths ebb and weave. I personally think that is all leading people through the wide path. If they take the narrow path it is more difficult but infinitely richer.
@@CannonRaw Amen!
I know! To be so entitled to think that your generation has the ability to "update" the word of God.. But really they just don't want to admit that their lifestyle doesn't align with the Bible, so they want to change the Bible to align with their lifestyle.
Jesus will accept you as you are, but he won't leave you that way. That's not love. It's no different than if your child is an addict, it's not loving to enable them to keep destroying themselves.
Everyone is falling for the false religion that promotes mixing worldly ways of living and views with what is of God’s way of living and what he commands. They want to serve two masters and make excuses for it to make themselves feel better about themselves. They want to find a way to blame God for everything they disagree with, that goes wrong in their lives, but not themselves and other people for being the actual causes.
The thing that blew my mind about homosexuality was when it was explained to me that homosexuality being part of your ingrained personal identity was a more modern concept. I always heard people say "but in Ancient Greece and Rome it was perfectly acceptable, in the middle ages it was an identity thing." And then I did a class on Ancient Greek culture and found out that NO, homosexualtiy was NOT normalised in Ancient Greek culture, and that worse, this was a point that angered Greek people because of the bastardisation of their culture for someone else's political agenda. For the longest time it wasn't considered part of ones ingrained identity, but an act or action one engaged in, and some may have personal preference for. Same with p*dophiles- we don't treat minor attracted people as normal. We treat their attractions as a separable action. There are a lot of s*xual cases where we as people choose when to accept it as ok and part of unchangeable personal identity, and when we don't like it and decide to define it as an action separate from the inner person. That's part of why I love God's consistency through the ages: because he doesn't change to our personal whims and desires. This, and the Lord, are what helped me overcome. The burning of my heart for Christ was stronger than my sin when I let in the Holy Spirit, and it broke those chains. I thought "maybe I'll just believe in God and never get married," but no. God saved me. He took my trials and difficulties and helped me break free. Of course there are still a lot of sins and trials in my life, but God is more powerful.
For non-believers, this topic probably isn't for you. We as believers understand you don't follow our ways, and don't have reason to ask you to follow the laws of something you don't believe in. But for other believers, we must keep each other accountable.
Amen, thank you for writing this.
The liberal/atheist rewriting of history is insane. Keep digging, it’s an unbelievable rabbit hole.
The ancient perception of homosexuality is kind of funny, is almost always something like "yeah, the bottom is shameful, but not the top" 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for this insight.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
Such WERE some of you. We must be Washed by His blood, Sanctified (trained up in the ways of The Lord), and then Justified in the name of Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God (allowing ourselves to be led by the Holy Spirit).
On this first one, to be fair, when I moved to Appleton Wisconsin many years ago, one of the first things I did was find a gay friendly Church. I attended there for quite a while. I really enjoyed the people. But at some point, I started noticing that they would accept anything BUT Jesus. I couldn't help but to ask myself why. This question was the very first tugged thread which eventually unraveled my misconceptions about God. Long story short, I ended up coming to Jesus in a big way. At this point, I have left the lesbian lifestyle and been happily married to my husband for over 10 years. God can use any situation to bring us to himself.
Thank you for your testimony of God's saving grace!
Hallelujah, praise the Lord ❤
So happy your my sister in Christ! I love this testimony so much and gives me hope for others I know
It's so great to hear all of this testimony that God can, in fact, wash His children of homosexual desires, and that those desires aren't an inseparable, indomitable part of one's identity-because that's the message we hear nowadays, especially teenagers like me in public schools.
@@wafflesaucey the new-New idea is that “sexuality is flexible,” meaning that God CAN wash away homosexuality!! 🎉
@@wafflesauceyit's more like getting you to desire him in your heart and then it quiets the sinful desires the closer you get to him. He doesn't do anything that you are unwilling to allow in your heart. This misconception about immediate transformation is confusing because it's false. God is patient... We aren't and expect immediate answers and works or miracles and we expect them to be exactly as we think they should be. We tout immediate/ miracle transformation because we think that glorifies God. This too is our own misguided understanding of his glory.
If you receive a dog and it took 5 seconds to train him so he understands every command and does everything perfect... Does it glorify you when he sits or rolls over on command or does it make people want / envy your dog?
He can train you instantly, but it's better for you if he doesn't because you will be glorified and this is actually not helpful for you... Though it might be desired by your mind it is your heart and mind that he judges.
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts;
I just posted the exact same thing and then started scrolling through the comments and found yours lol great minds friend. God bless
As a recovering alcoholic (who’s never shown up to church drunk btw, but has hungover in the past without making it obvious) many churches and Christians don’t want to hear about addictions or the mental health issues associated with addictions. Anything not positive messes with their image. I’ve been told things like I need an exorcist for anxiety disorder, and to just have more faith in general so it all goes away.
While I don’t agree with everything she’s saying, more Christians and more churches need to be real. Not in a way of “love you as you are don’t improve” but in a way of “be honest and we will still love you and walk with you through this.”
I’m blessed to have found a Bible-preaching, God-fearing church where the congregation - from the pastor to the newest member - are real about what’s going on in our lives. It’s changed my life and my walk with God.
I think I understand what you're saying but can you provide me with some concrete examples so I'm clear about your expectations of the Church please?
I get what you're saying. I've decided, that within my congregation, I'm going to set an example in being real. I openly admit to my own shortcomings and ask questions of others encouraging them to admit to theirs. Once they've opened up a bit, I try to make them feel comfortable in sharing, and then turn the conversation right back to the Lord's mercy. I might say something like, "Well, we can both praise God for his Mercy. After all, that's why we're here." I think people just need that reminder sometimes... Particularly those who grew up in church culture.
I don’t agree that most churches don’t want to hear or talk about being a slave to our flesh. If you didn’t hear it, then you weren’t listening
As Jesus taught, you know a tree by its fruit. If you go to a church and the message you hear is one of desired appearance and hiding your blemishes, there’s a good chance that everyone in that building is putting on a religious face and hiding their pet sins. This would be a spiritually dead church, white washed tomb, maybe there is genuine belief maybe there is not. On the other hand brother or sister, you find a real church built on preaching the true gospel of deadness in sin and need for repentance and what a glorious work God does in those bodies of believers to transform sinners. I’m happy for you and praise God for providing us local churches with genuine believers and pastors.
There's certainly a lot we could do better with, and there's an organization called Teen Challenge that helps teens struggling with addiction, and someone related to one of my friends recently did a talk about his only struggle with drug addiction. We need to bring such things into the light.
Attending a church without wanting to hear a teaching. Seems similar to wanting something without the hard work.
Oh they want that too
@CannonRaw True
@@christopherderrig3671 Sounds kind of like an assumption. Don't judge a book by its cover, Even if the book seems very close to that. But I know the Bible didn't say don't judge or to "be nice", but is does say judge with righteous judgement and do to others what you want others to do to you.
@@girlforJesus7843 ok and my point was the people that "attend" church without hearing the message. Are normally the ones that do want stuff handed to them without the hard work. Being a Christian is work more then just looking good and going to church. It is a daily struggle combating sin and temptation. Yes the Bible says we are saved by grace and faith in Jesus but we still have to bear our cross and follow Jesus and that is different for every Christian. And I have never seen a real christian just lay there and not work everyday to be a good Christian and person.
@@christopherderrig3671
James 2:26( NKJV)
"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
“The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Cor 2:14).
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. (Matthew 10:34-36)
@@AliciaGarciaWebit hurts because theyre disrespecting you and youre allowing your husband to manipulate your kids into joining in. This is his insecurity. You need to grow a backbone and be bold in God. Your husband is going to send your kids to hell, do you want that?
@@pennyspamzlolwe don't know where him or the kids are going, we shouldn't say they are going to hell, however correction is good
"I'm a deep skeptic and also a pastor." There is only one reason a "deep skeptic" becomes a pastor, to be a false shepherd. Everything he said was intended to lead the church away from the gospel of Christ.
Agreed.
You're incredibly mistaken, here and are likely mistaking skeptic for "cynic." Josh Mc Dowell, for example, was a militant skeptic, who set out to prove the Bible was wrong. He approached it with intellectual honesty and fervent skepticism, and got completely saved. The Bereans were skeptics. They went home after sermons and searched the scriptures. Paul admonished all of us to be like that.
@@aaronwalcott513The usage of “skeptic” in modern society - especially in a self-identifying context - generally is understood as referring to an agnostic or atheistic perspective and critical framework.
@@aaronwalcott513 To remain a skeptic????????????????
@@aaronwalcott513There is a massive difference between the people of Josh's time and the people of today. People can say they're looking for the truth but the moment they happen upon it, the person who is saying it is a hateful bigot, a transphobe etc. Feelings and "their truth" is what triumphs over everything for them. That fact was shown over and over again in this video and many others like it out there. Feelings and progressive this and that. Love to them is affirming everything they think, feel, or believe to be "their truth". With zero care for what the truth or way actually is.
Come as you are...but don't stay as you are. I am not the same person I was before I walked in the church several years ago after many years. The day I was baptized I became a whole new person
"Unbelief disguised as thoughtful critic." 💯🔥
* critique
Imagine going to the doctor and the doc saying, "Yeah, you've got cancer. Don't worry. It's totally natural, and you're going to die from it. We're very accepting of cancer here at this hospital. We affirm sickness of all kinds."
😭😭💔💔 great and heartbreaking analogy
Glad you’re alive, thank the Lord❤️🙏✝️
Great analogy!
Logical fallacy if you’re gonna be trying to get people to want to follow your religion be honest
At @23:00 - my pastor’s wife loves to tell how welcomed and loved she was walking into a church as an unwed mother in a mini skirt and crop top - the people there recognized she was hurting and lost and seeking a better life, and they welcomed her in. We are always supposed to meet people where they’re at.
But she doesn’t dress that way NOW, because her life has been transformed, and she wants to live in a way that honors God (and her husband and kids).
I love that you actually do trailers for your premiers! Gives me a little something!
EXACTLY 👍
This is what happens when a church makes its primary mission “serving” the lost instead of “saving” the lost.
It's not the church's job to save anyone, that's how you get authoritarian maniacs forcing or even coercing native populations to convert, its an individual persons choice to make and one only between him and God to save himself. It is the church's job to serve but by serving it does not mean being a pushover. It's a hospital not a club house or activist organization, and sometimes the hospital needs to reject certain people who don't have interest in getting better or they're pain med chasing_ looking for an escape/ not there for the right reasons.
@@copperdragon5512 1 Corinthians 9:22 KJVS
To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
That's good
“The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”
― William Booth (Salvation Army Founder)
Nailed it! He was discussing the 1900's not the 2000's. LOL
Soooo ironic coming from a "Church" that rejects sacraments and many traditional Christian precepts.
@@MeanBeanComedy They don't reject many christian precepts, however, I agree that they do not practise communion and baptism as a whole. That doesn't mean that their members cannot be baptised elsewhere if desired and that they cannot take communion in their homes (William Booth did) or smaller groups.
Fully agree. Except for the lol😢
"Isn't it weird that the ingredients on a tube of toothpaste don't tell you how to smile?"
Notice how almost 90% of it is about being inclusive about people's sexuality?
100 percent.
Yep. Satan is perverting the very basis of creation.
Just a reminder that God is great, He has a purpose for you, and to read your Bible and pray! 💕
And fast. That with the other two can really get the Lord’s attention. 👍
I left a church headed toward being progressive, because the pastor said to me he believes you can be a practicing homosexual, but when I questioned him on it he said, among many other incorrect beliefs, “I just want people to love like Jesus did.” The video man’s critique is actually dangerous in that “people” have redefined love, but God’s love will be found in the Bible, which so many DO NOT READ!!!
I'd recommend you check out Redeemed Zoomer and his "Reconquista Map" to see if there are any orthodox Protestant churches near you that you can attend instead. Endless retreat will never work, but if you and yours can migrate to a church in the same town in the same denomination that's not progressive, you can regain lost ground long-term.
Exactly. How can you love someone but not inform them that they are sinning and on the highway to hell?
No if you show up to church in a crop top it would not be anyone judging you it would be your conscience speaking to you that you know better
Is dressing in the Bible anywhere or anything similar?
Or is it mainly to not cause others to sin/lust(potentially)?
Like when Paul doesn't eat meat sacrificed to Pagan gods to not lead others astray..
Even though he ate it alone cause the meat itself is fine to eat as a Christian. Is this the best example?
@yvonnewalters7463, well said. I wish that I could shake your hand because you have not lied.
@@Yo-0o0o0o0o Yes. The Bible often speaks of how women (and men) are to dress modestly. Don't encourage lust by revealing oneself, Don't desire to be listed after by revealing oneself. We are royalty through Our Heavenly Father adopted into the family through the blood of Christ and we have royal robes of dignity. Since when are queens and princesses valued more for showing more skin to anyone that will look?
Yes the Bible (and Jesus) also say that if looking at a person inspires you to sin, you should look away and get control of yourself. It also says that it's better to cut your own hand off than to make someone else stumble.
Treat oneself with respect and dignity. Treat others with respect and dignity. Just because the laws of the land allow me to be naked - does that make it good in God's eyes? The Bible says no.
@@PureSniperWolf thanks I'm pretty new and haven't read those yet.
I'll have to Google them thank you
I would love some prayers for one of my new coworkers.
She just started 1 week ago, and we've been getting along pretty well. We were walking and chatting after work today, and she said she's bi/gay, and that she's interested in religion as an intellectual concept but not as a belief system. I asked her what makes her agnostic, and she said church trauma, how when she was growing up she was like yelled at across the street by Christians saying she's gonna go to hell because she's gay. I don't know how real that is since I wasn't there, but my response was that I'm sorry she was mistreated, and that as a Christian I do believe that being gay is a sin, but that it's not the end-all-be-all of faith. The most important part is accepting God's offer of a relationship with him, that her being gay isn't some nail in the coffin, and that I think the purpose of religion is whether it's true or not, not how people who follow it treat people. Look at the message, not the messenger. And how I'm not one to judge her for anything, since I have my own issues. She seemed to be relatively accepting of my perspective, and we left it at that.
I'm praying - and hoping to get some prayers - that I can be a light to her to hopefully break the "church trauma" of past negative experiences with church people, and to be able to separate it from whether it's true or not and hopefully come to accept God's offer of life and a relationship with her creator. Thank you for your help.
Good on you for doing God's work by talking with and praying for them. I think it's worth always remembering that it's not you or anyone else that has something against them as a gay it's the bible. Secondly, I would suggest checking out Openness Unhindered by Rossaria Butterfield. A very powerful story of an ex lesbian woman who very articulately draws the link between homosexuality and the sin of pride. Perhaps start it just yourself but with the aim of having your colleague receptive to it later. Good luck and keep it up.
Yeah, I hope that goes well, but I have no patience for people whose "church trauma" is people telling them not to sin.
@@MeanBeanComedy I can definitely understand that. But I have to work with her regardless (it's a yearly contract position), and I was able to have a conversation in which I told her directly to her face that I think she's sinning and she doesn't hate my guts, so I'm hopeful God put me in this situation for a reason.
Slow and steady. You may not see the end results of working with her. Just being kind, answering truthfully, and carefully explaining things will go a long way. Even if she hates teachings about sin and hell, you treating her like a fellow human made in God’s image can help her see that calling out sin isn’t the same as degrading someone.
@@Window4503 Thanks. That's my hope and prayer.
On marriage.
If you are being married in the eyes of God, then you dont get to decide who God recognizes as married.
I never understood the purpose of a group who doesnt believe in scripture, forcing people who do to go against it.
Its like they want you to accept your corruption. Its some dark stuff.
And you cant enter into a debate with them as they either stonewall or escape, they continue to spew their selfdeception to others without any kind of tether.
This whole video reminded me of one of my favorite quotes from a pastor at a youth conference when I was young:
“God loves you, and will meet you where you’re at. But He doesn’t want to leave you like that.”
God says it is a NARROW path to get to Heaven and join Him in His glory, and that none of us can walk it on our own. Socially but also spiritually. It's not loving to let people hurt themselves. 😢
Do you understand what the narrow path from Matthew 7:13 is?
If you think it is about abstaining from sin or working your way to be some undefined “better” person, you are likely unsaved.
Instead, the narrow path is Jesus-the Way, the Truth, and the Life. This verse has nothing to do with how you live. It’s not about the sinner, it’s about the Savior.
Believe by faith alone today for permanent, irrevocable salvation. John 3:16, John 3:36, Titus 3:5, 1 John 5:13.
This should be in EVERY Church "What we believe" statement. It is the second greatest commandment, second only to "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength" - Deuteronomy 6:5.
"You SHALL NOT HATE your brother in your heart. You SHALL SURELY REBUKE your neighbor, and NOT bear sin because of him. You SHALL NOT take vengeance, NOR bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you SHALL LOVE your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord." - Leviticus 19:17-18
Funny enough, Ferrari's specifically have in the contract when you buy them that you can not buy them specifically for the purposes of breaking them down, damaging, or otherwise destroying them.
What the world gets confused is that, we want all people in the church, but we do not want your beliefs, you come to church to receive our beliefs in Christ and be saved. If you do not want these beliefs you have a freedom not to be part of a fellowship. The apostle Paul took people out of fellowships who came with their own beliefs. He was so drastic about this he would go to places where no one else had build a foundation, so that through his foundation (Gospel) people could build on top of it. No other foundation can be put.
“Reach the world one person at a time as we learn to think, love, and live like Jesus, and reproduce that in the lives of others” -My church’s mission statement
That’s similar to our church’s mission statement: To glorify God by proclaiming the Good News and practicing the goodness of Jesus.
"Loving the Hell out of people. " is ours.
The first commandment is Love God, the second is love others. Christians often forget both. If you show up naked, my desire would be to clothe you with my back turned as Noahs sons Japheth and Shem in Genesis 9:18-27. This following the commandment of Christ that to clothe those in need is to clothe Him -Mathew 25:34 - 40. We as christians show love by not leaving people in thier brokeness but by showing the love of Christ which comes with change inside and out. You may show up naked, dirty and hungry but my desire is that you leave cleansed by His blood, covered in His mercy, and fed by His word.
So according to these tiktoks: love people enough to cheer them on as they make their way closer and closer to hell?
Yeah, not a great plan. 🤔
My husband is wonderful! He has a genetic condition that makes him have really bad knees, which obviously affects jobs, but he has fought so hard to make sure that I feel loved and supported. Neither of us are perfect, but we’re also very conscious about supporting each other. I’m so excited to spend the rest of my life with him!
These people are very confused concerning the Bible and the Word.
They picture the God of the Bible bending to their wills. What utter selfishness and lack of commitment.
With all that's going on in the world, we believers have plenty to pray about.💖💖🙏
around the 23 min mark a simple response, you can come as you are but you shouldn't leave as you were.
18:00 Regarding the young lady who says the church shouldn't use "outdated" ideas, I just made an interesting connection. This idea that the word of God should "evolve" with society, runs exactly parallel with the idea that we have evolved as human beings. This is where the concept of evolution and the beleif that we are descended from the animal Kingdom, contaminates the idea that we are made in the image of God. His image never changes, but humans beleive we are ever-changing. This perfectly illustrates how the explanations of evolution and creation are in perfect contradiction to one another.
Wow! The first lady is brutally honest! It's almost like you could have a real conversation with her! Praying for hope!
Uiii - the motives of the first young lady 🙈 BUT when I came to church the first time, it was because it was my best friends birthday wish that I come with her. I had no interest at all. BUT the gospel hit me that day & I follow Jesus since that day! 16 years now! So let's pray for that Lady. My friends did exactly the same back than for me 🙏
8:22 my church posts a "What we believe" and a "Guiding Principles" section on our site. The "What we believe" is strictly the creeds that state the Law and Gospel. The "Guiding Principles" is where the teachings come in. This is where we say that serving is an act of love and that we are to boldly share the Lord's grace and love.
Dear Wise Disciple,
I only recently found your channel but wish I found it earlier! Thank you so much for presenting the scripture so well and talking through silly internet opinions on our beautiful faith. I truly believe the Lord is calling you to do this. Thank you so much for everything. God bless
God says come as you are. But he's doesn't say stay where you were. In fact, he commands us to repent and follow him. That's what baptism represents. That the old you is dead, the new you is raised with Christ.
When my manufacturer made their owners manual book, they broke down the vehicle, not wrote about love for vehicle's owners 🙄
Someone walks into a firehouse while on fire.
Firefighters immediately start trying to put the fire out to save the guy.
One person crosses his arms and shakes his head at how intolerant the firefighters are for not accepting the flames.
That is a great analogy
Because he's born with the flames; they're part of his identity! You can't spray the flames away!
@@wafflesaucey Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’"
-John 3:1-7
@@wafflesaucey Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?"
-Matthew 16:24-26
@@StageWatcher I do like those verses, but I never stopped to think about how spiritual rebirth can take away sinful desires that you left the womb with.
The open welcoming place for everyone and everything seems like the broad road to destruction
People forget that the Gospel is a funnel, sieve, filter and sorter rolled into one. Jesus is the ONLY Way. That by itself shows God's exclusivity, not inclusivity.
It is.
Respect to the first lady. She is what 90% of church goers in America think, but she actually said it out loud.
All these people have one thing in common. They want the church to bend to their needs and desires!
Being a Christian is about submitting to God’s authority!
Nobody ever thinks maybe it is I who should change! Maybe I should examine MY heart! Could it be that MY values are wrong!
All of these have such a self centered arrogant attitude!
As for the guy who talked about love being in a church’s belief statements…just one push back. The most important thing isn’t loving people, it’s loving God. Out of that love for God comes an overflow of love, Godly love, for others. When we put the love of others above our love for God, it creates a false type of love for others that never brings them into what God has for them. It creates compromise against what God’s Word says and, as said in the video, leads to spiritual death.
“Feel good” describes 80% of America churches, because any kind of hard teaching or principles is called legalistic or judgemental.
Super excited to watch this!! Thank you for the premier!! Always cheering and rooting for you! ✨
We once had a man walk into our church, he was in a terrible state looked like a mess and was acting highly distressed. We did not just send him straight into the pews to sit with the other parishioners, he was intercepted by the staff they found out he was in crisis, my husband who is a trained crisis counselor took him aside and spoke to him and the situation de-escalated. If someone comes to church topless or in a crop top or whatever, I think the duty of the church staff is to see them, and then do outreach directly too them, not just say nothing, no judgment, and let them sit there.
Craig Groeschel (who I dont agree with on everything, but do on this) told a story of when he was young and started working in ministry. Someone arrived at church who was new. She was stopped before she entered by a man who told her “Young lady, is that the best outfit you have? Because in our church, we wear our best for God.” The woman left before she entered the church and likely never came back. Sadly probably had a hard time trying another church too, if she ever did.
The woman in this video went a bit extreme with her example, but there are too many people who care more about how someone looks and how their church looks than about about the actual person. This seems to happen less than it did in years past (in many areas at least) but it still happens too often, especially with women. I’ve had to check my own heart about it, too.
This is one of the reasons I wear the same dress each Sunday. I’m a PK and my mom was big on how we appeared to the rest of the congregation. It got to a point where it was the end of the world if I wore the same thing two Sundays in a row, so now I wear the same thing every Sunday both to undo that mindset and as a symbol that I need a renewed spirit, not a renewed outfit.
I used to work and attend a new age church. It’s a big mega church. (Not naming names cause they are huge.) Hint though. Huge church located near Denver… I found out the church pastor doesn’t write his own sermons, he only shows up to the church for a couple hours a week, and he makes 315k a year. Some amazing Godly people attend that church who I have no doubt they are saved but most of the elders of that church need to repent. They throw giant galas and parties that have nothing to do with the Lord. Nothing. They spend tithe money on new furniture for the main pastors office almost every 3 months. I know that cause I was the one who always had to unload and put them together. So much corruption. That church only preaches what the government wants them to. I love the lord! I have found an incredible church that does incredible in depth study of the Bible! Right now we are in Philippians ❤️ Do I have church hurt? Yes. Not Jesus hurt. ❤️
Nate, you have such a gift. The Ferrari analogy was so well done and told probably gonna have to take that one lol. Just wanted to stop by and say great work keep it up. God bless.
Yes excited to see. Had some down time at work. Must wait until tomorrow. Good things happen to those who wait I guess 😌
This guy thinks the church is a social club, so we should just marry everybody 😏
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Who thinks that?
I have to say, I was struggling with my with my walk, but your videos really helped. You don't talk through feelings or opinion you go straight to the word and that has been instrumental to me. Thank you!
The reason I stopped going to a building for "church" wasn't because it wasn't liberal enough. I'm a conservative Christian, former elder in two churches, taught Sunday School, involved in dozens of ministries, volunteered for numerous things, was once on paid staff as youth director. I love Jesus, at least as much as one crippled by ugly, self-inflicted sin can.
It was because church after church was becoming led by sociopaths and narrcissists who only cared about their power and control.
It was because people took the word "pastor," which shows up once in the singular in the entire Bible, 4th in a list of 5 gifts useful for the Church (note, not a title, just a gift) and turned it into a CEO/ruler position that one must be "covered" by, that one must "come under the authority" of. That's a position that does NOT exist in the New Testament. It's a level of authority that the Apostle Paul (who gave up everything, was imprisoned, stoned and even killed for the Church) never came close to claiming. Yet, some punk in tight jeans who would likely run screaming at the first sign of persecution or paunchy, middle-aged mediocrity who never got a speck of dirt under his nails, would stand up there every Sunday and demand your attention and insist that you pay his way and put him in comfort. And there was Paul, working blue collar labor to be a burden to no one, not demanding subservience like these frauds, but beseeching people to follow his example.
I just got sick of the pampered frauds and their lazy followers who'd torn on you like flying monkeys if you raised an honest question.
Home churcher here! Corporate Christianity is an issue many are struggling with. Lots of Church-Hurt going around. Gathering with believers is not only important, it is a command. Find some real believers around you, find a place to meet up, and study the Bible! But make sure to study the whole Bible, especially if those parts make you uncomfy.
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.”
2 Timothy 4:3-5
Jesus didn't say that "loving people" was THE most important thing. He said loving God is #1, and to love your neighbor. See if you love God first, you'll love His teachings first, which means when you love "people", you'll love the soul but not confuse love with acceptance of behavior and activity that God does not like. That is why you must love God first, so you can love with God's love, when you love your neighbor. That means loving every single person with God's love. That means loving people you don't like, with God's love. It means treating those you disagree with, in a kind way. It doesn't mean that you accept sin or celebrate things that are not of God. You can love and should love sinners. We're ALL sinners.
Tolerance is NOT a Christian virtue.
The last guy sounded like, "Bow the Bible and your pastoral leadership down to the culture. You must serve the culture. Whatever they say, whatever they want, if you don't meet them there, then you're not going to be a loving church." Man, Satan has done some "good" work on these people, in the sense that he's confused so many people who believe they're acting in God's name, but in fact are working against God and worshipping the culture. I hate to imagine how many of these people, and the people they led, will end up before Christ, with the Lord saying to them "I never knew you."
God is the same yesterday today and forever, so is His Word!
WOW!! Second clip is from a church I used to attend years ago. They went off the deep end! My ex also attends that church and they helped him walk away from my kids and I to live as a woman. My ex is now living as a woman attending that church with HIS new wife. I tell everyone I know not to attend that church!
Thank you for being so unapologetic about truth and being so clear in the way you communicate! It is refreshing
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God loves you so much He will take you as you are, but He will NOT leave you as you are
God is exclusive there is a narrow path. If you don't fit the path you don't enter the kingdom. It doesn't change now because of new age thought or desire. It just doesn't work that way.
When I found your channel I was bummed to hear you no longer lived in Vegas. And you never mention the church u were at I was praying for a good biblical church &then you had Chuck on and I now go to life for the last few months &love it thank you for doing what ur doing. Btw you need Chuck on again he and the church have been such a blessing.❤
I'll be honest, I hear this kind of stuff and pray for them but also myself. I'm no less prone to foolish thinking than they are. I've experienced so many situations where I've realized through reading scripture or listening to sermons that my entire attitude about some facet of life has been wrong. Not just believing the wrong things, but having the entire wrong framework for thinking about the issue.
Who knows what ignorant frameworks I still have that God is leading me out of.
You are wise to understand this and trust in God to reveal all truth to you. ❤
Truthfully, my journey with Christianity started like that girl who wanted to hang out with her friends. Before my grandpa died, he made me promise to go back to church. It took around 3 months for my best friend to convince me to go to church with him. And when I went, I bawled my eyes out. But that freedom to let out my emotions; that was what I chased for the next month, and rapidly over the past four years, I have gone from loathing God to pursuing God. It has made me so much happier, so much more joyful. So I just pray that the people who get up and go to church for all the wrong reasons can have their eyes opened like mine were, and really pursue God for the right reasons. I still have a lot of ways that I need to grow, but I’m a lot better than I used to be. And it’s through His word, His power that I am the man I am today.
This channel... (Chef's kiss)👌... perfect.
Thank you for your teaching Pastor Nate. God's work through you is inspiring and so is your knowledge, discernment and wisdom. Blessings.
In the words of Pastor Tony Evans, “Christianity is not a buffet”
I LOVE YOU, PASTOR NATE. I pray more Christians understand this. It makes me feel more hopeful.
My issue with the church I am going to is the detachment of people coupled with a constant message of "obey the church" with a aide of "you're bad." I arrived at the church after having a deep loss through a trafic accident. I was promised aid as I moved to my new place that never came. And whemever I go to church, I sit by myself and hear the same type of message. If Jesus' love and compassion is referenced 5% of the times, its enough. And while was healing, the pastors dropped a person from church I barely knew that was homeless for me to host them. After that, I barely had money saved because I had to spend on this person.
Loads of issues there but, I am looking for a new church. I dont mind preaching the realities of The Word. But everytime I go there, I feel like I am preparing for a boxing match.
Yikes, yeah those are some red flags and I’m glad you got out. A healthy church gives opportunities to serve without twisting your arm and ideally would help you with your own needs as a member of the family of God.
22:54 I did, that's exactly what I did, and the Church accepted me and saved me from my sin.
John 14:15 ESV
[15] “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
John 15:14 ESV
[14] You are my friends if you do what I command you.
✝️📖🙏❤️
Love every person, support no sin. There ya go, your statement on how we feel about loving people.
All I hear is "fleshly ways".
-Lack of knowledge shall perish.
The ferrari example is also like
"You bought a ferarri to go fast. You go 20 over the speed limit and get a ticket. You get angry at the cop for giving you a ticket.
You go 100 over the limit on the highway and get into a crash, and yet you get angry at the person you killed in the crash. Because they had the gall to be going the speed limit and honked to get you to slow down."
On March 26th 2022,
just past midnight,
I was restless in bed,
my limbs became numb & tingly,
my chest became tight,
& my heart felt like it was being crushed.
So I sang out to God and Jesus,
about my pain, my feelings,
my faults and my inabilities.
As I sang, I began to feel like a river,
& a hand was on my back,
it's fingers where skimming the surface of the waters,
separating the waters,
causing ripples through my body.
Then the hand reached inside my chest,
lit my heart on fire,
& the heat moved like waves through my body.
When I was done singing,
all the pain was gone,
& I looked at the clock,
it was past 1am,
I had sang near an hour.
Then the voice of my guardian angel called my name from above,
& there was a hymn of energy in the air,
the same hymn I hear in my dreams of God.
Glory, Honor, blessings, thanks and praise to the Lord my God,
for healing my heart during a heart attack!
Hallelujah to the Lord my God for healing my heart!
Hallelujah for His son Jesus for saving my soul!
Hallelujah for every day!
Hallelujah for every breath!
The Lord is Faithful and true!
The kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
May the Lord Bless your hearts,
so that you have the will and strength to turn from selfish sins,
and flee from the slaveries of the flesh!
That's beautiful!
I read the bible start to end before going back to church. I hope most people can do this when they feel a push to church ❤
What these tiktokers are sayinng isn't a misunderstanding, rather it is a spiritual problem. Jesus stated that the Word of God is like a sword that cuts. They are going to church and the Word of God is cutting into their heart and mind, yet, they reject the Holy Spirit is helping them see the light. They choose to be in darkness, instead of allowing the light to change them for good.
Thank you so much Nate, while these people's words pained me greatly, your words brought me peace. We must stand strong for Jesus and keep God's word and hide it in our hearts to reflect on . I am so blessed to be a member of a church that stays true to the word of God and has for all this time. I have been a member since Feb. of 1997 and my husband and I were married in the church in Dec. of 1997.
While we have had some different Pastors in our church, they have always kept to the Word of God and have never wavered.
Soooo…these people want me to shelf discernment and follow the advice of someone (them) exhibiting extreme pride(sin)? No thanks, I choose Jesus!
I haven't listened to you for a while. I started getting notified of you again the other day. Bravo!
The asian lady just doesn't understand what the church is, she is talking about us changing to get more followers like it is a recruitment drive for a club. That is what we would do if all we cared about is numbers but we care about making followers of Gods word not just pumping numbers up.
I was selling my stuff at a festival and I said to a young girl who asked me about it and then left as she was leaving with her mother , I said have a blessed day and she asked her mother what does that mean. Now she was in her teens and didn't know what that word ment. I was saddened and prayed for her and her mother.
Yeah, we’re at a point where younger kids don’t know much about the Bible or religious words and older kids/young adults have a distorted idea of certain concepts. I’ve gone from assuming people know what I’m talking about to assuming we probably aren’t on the same page until it’s clearer.
These folks are looking for a social club, not a guide to God’s scripture.
My son who has ASD got me to church again. We starting looking for a family friendly church for him, one which would let him wear his ear defenders and allow him to explore his relationship with Jesus. Now we are members of a vineyard church. He loves it. Me and my 9yr old got baptised together in February. We have a lovely church family. His dad has started praying again agter years. My son brought us back to church.
The bible is not a buffet line . You don't get to choose the parts you like and ignore the parts you don't !!!!
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Not sure these people realize that we Christians will NEVER take their advice on how to run our churches over GODS OWN WORD on how to run a church.
"just unbelief disguised as critique"
Wow! well said!
These people just want to feel comfortable in their sin. God isn't changing His word for anyone. He's the same yesterday, today, and forever more. You either follow God's word or you don't. One comes with rewards, and the other comes with consequences. It's your choice.
Great message. Better light set-up. Much easier on the eyes.😉👍
I'm sorry Nate, but at the 9:29 minute mark the statement that "Loving your neighbor as yourself" as what Jesus taught as what "sums up absolutely everything" is absolutely WRONG! When asked what the GREATEST commandment IS, Jesus replied, quoting Deuteronomy 6:4-9 Hear, O Israel; The Lord or God is one. You shall love the the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might." Loving GOD sums up absolutely EVEYTHING. The SECOND half of his reply is: AND you shall love your neighbor as yourself. The world has left off the true message in its misguided belief that loving people fulfils the command, when in reality, serving man without obedience to God is explained clearly in Matthew 7:21-23. Not everyone who says to me "Lord, Lord", will enter the kingdom of heaven, BUT THE ONE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty WORKS in your name (fill in your earthly "love your neighbor" works here)? And then I will declare to them, "I NEVER KNEW you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
I immediately paused to type this same comment. To not mention loving God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength is to miss our purpose in life. To love others as ourselves is to fulfill the rest of the law and is our mission on earth. I know Nate preaches this. Not sure why he didn’t mention it.
@@secondratefilms635 Exactly! And if I might take your reply one step further, to " Love others as ourselves" means pointing them to the Father, through the Son, by the Spirit. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with US accepting them here on earth. We and our opinions of others do not count.
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A human being, that you agree with mind you, didn’t mention exactly what you wanted to, so you jump down his throat and nitpick? Yikes…
@@davecrumbcake450a human being, who agreed with a video but who had something constructive and important to add to the conversation, commented, and you jump to criticizing and shaming him? Yikes...
@@avidaddison985 Good afternoon. I'm not sure to whom you're referring, but none of my comments and replies have any intent to criticize or shame anyone. In fact, it's quite the opposite. As Nate himself often quotes, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good works - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (ESV)"
As born again, Bible believing followers of Yeshua, it is our responsibility to encourage, and yes, CORRECT, each other as we learn, grow, and walk.
You will find many times throughout scripture when Yeshua corrected his followers, and tauhgt them to do the same.
True love in Messiah is not encouraging incorrect theology, but as "iron sharpens iron", challenging each other to "study to show yourself approved, a workman that needeth NOT to be ashamed, RIGHTLY dividing the word of Truth.
Have a blessed day.❤️
She sounds like I did before I encountered Jesus. I was into most of the new age ideologies. The last thing I said to God before I walked into Calvary was, “don’t think about turning me into a Jesus freak”
I walked into that church, the Holy Spirit grabbed a hold of me and I came to Christ a few weeks later.
Now I talk about Jesus to everyone and I wouldn’t have it any other way. When you meet the Lord there is NO DENYING how real and how alive He truly is. He will change your life but you have to let him. Be guided by the spirit and READ THE BIBLE. It’s His words. Everything happening in the world is all written down in there and so is the escape plan! 🙌🏻 ✝️🙌🏻