Flathead 4 TUNING & Running on NITRO! - Update

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  • @liamevangelista6455
    @liamevangelista6455 Рік тому +191

    The spark ignition was the best part about that engine. But it does run pretty good on nitro.

    • @DatBlueHusky
      @DatBlueHusky Рік тому +29

      yeah kinda sucks it wasnt working well, id like to see it fixed and made to run better with a real rc grade ignition system and not the crap china one

    • @bashaaksema94
      @bashaaksema94 Рік тому +2

      Agreed

    • @RDMracer
      @RDMracer Рік тому +23

      People said to me before that RC vehicles use nitro fuel because the geometry of the engines is just too small to have fuel and air mix properly. A flathead is notorious for having bad mixing characteristsics, so I can imagine it being the worst miniature engine to be run on gasoline.

    • @theyeetus1428
      @theyeetus1428 Рік тому +1

      @@RDMracer Nitro has to mix with air too.

    • @itchyprince3793
      @itchyprince3793 Рік тому +9

      @@theyeetus1428 Gasoline spark ignition requires a much more homogeneous air fuel mixture to ignite properly than a compression ignition nitro engine.

  • @rreyesco
    @rreyesco Рік тому +261

    You should make a Dyno to bench test your creations before the road! Would love to see that 👋🏼

    • @Mostafa-vs8bd
      @Mostafa-vs8bd Рік тому +14

      He did once

    • @printstanza7792
      @printstanza7792 Рік тому +4

      He did that already

    • @rogers8555
      @rogers8555 Рік тому +1

      it's hard to make a ture to scale accurate dyno that works like the real thing

    • @rreyesco
      @rreyesco Рік тому +4

      @@printstanza7792 ive been following him since 2016 I’ve never seen it. If you’re talking about the engine type dyno yes, but not a tuning type rolling dyno!

    • @rreyesco
      @rreyesco Рік тому

      @@rogers8555 theres many videos on here where people build their own dyno for nitro rc’s

  • @lewistaylor863
    @lewistaylor863 Рік тому +107

    Hi Johnny - you might well have spotted this but on the thermal imaging shot, the exhaust header nearest the camera was cold, and the engine didn't sound like it was running on all 4. Someone else in the comments mentioned something similar. Definately worth looking into. Otherwise, good work!

    • @troywarner9546
      @troywarner9546 Рік тому

      that is the intake manifold, the exhaust was on the other side

    • @tinfoilchampion3651
      @tinfoilchampion3651 Рік тому +13

      @@troywarner9546 Sorry to be that guy. Its actually on the same side as the intake manifold. The Intake is on the top while the Exhaust is underneath it as you can see if your not an idiot.

    • @tinfoilchampion3651
      @tinfoilchampion3651 Рік тому +5

      Yeah it doesn't sound like its running on all cylinders to me too.

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

  • @TymTym55
    @TymTym55 Рік тому +67

    Sounds like an old diesel a bit 🥰
    Btw would it be possible to build a diesel at this scale?

    • @lorriecarrel9962
      @lorriecarrel9962 Рік тому +15

      I would love to see a mini turbo diesel

    • @TymTym55
      @TymTym55 Рік тому +13

      1.9 TDI 😛

    • @user-gx1sv3hj9k
      @user-gx1sv3hj9k Рік тому +7

      ua-cam.com/video/zXCGyItsgQs/v-deo.html i think it could be done, but im sure it would need a compressor or turbo to produce any measureable amount of power

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Рік тому +11

      Making such tiny injectors and and an injection pump would be pretty difficult. A flat head wouldn't have enough compression ratio for a diesel either.

    • @FrmerK20
      @FrmerK20 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/E4-fOw6vr34/v-deo.html&ab_channel=W7CJ check this out

  • @kingmaybus8409
    @kingmaybus8409 Рік тому +3

    Nice to wake up on a Sunday and have one of your vids on stand by lol...keep up the great content 👍

  • @tjh44961
    @tjh44961 Рік тому +18

    Although I agree with your theory about the stiffer valve springs, I think that a carburetor with a larger bore would also help, with both nitro and gasoline. Compare the ratio of bore diameter of the carb to displacement of a single cylinder to that of one of your factory single cylinder nitro engines.

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

    • @codassassin254
      @codassassin254 Рік тому

      Air:fuel is a commonly overlooked factor when doing diy.

  • @vishftw
    @vishftw Рік тому

    I seriously want dyno test of the previous video's engine and this one! Nice video Johnny!!

  • @DaDonMega
    @DaDonMega Рік тому +2

    Love your content, keep it up!

  • @omar101oez2
    @omar101oez2 Рік тому

    Wow response is right there man I can’t believe nitro makes that much difference it even sound more crisp

  • @menom7
    @menom7 Рік тому

    LOVE IT JohnnyQ90!!! Switching over to Nitro makes those RPM's climber Soooooo much quicker than running it on gas!!! More air=more power!!!

  • @rayshutsa6690
    @rayshutsa6690 Рік тому +2

    It does run better on niro, along with the glow plugs. Awesome job as always. Love your channel and content. ❤🇨🇦

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

  • @charlirmartin2981
    @charlirmartin2981 Рік тому +1

    So happy to see a new upload from my favourite UA-camr ❤

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee6478 Рік тому

    sounds healthier . Good Show , ENJOYED !!👍👍

  • @EZ4U2Say11
    @EZ4U2Say11 Рік тому

    Omg that sounds so cool!

  • @lefrancoisjeanpierre3098
    @lefrancoisjeanpierre3098 Рік тому

    thank you it s so satisfying

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse Рік тому

    I love the way it sounds with nitro. The gas was a bit weedeater-esque, but the nitro sound great.

  • @geraldlaurens6987
    @geraldlaurens6987 Рік тому +1

    Excellente vidéo 😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @ryansnyder4453
    @ryansnyder4453 Рік тому +7

    Great vid!! you should totally try to convert one of the engines to a real diesel engine!!

  • @Slikx666
    @Slikx666 Рік тому +1

    And it now sounds so much better. 🙂👍

  • @NiCadHeliPilot
    @NiCadHeliPilot Рік тому +8

    I noticed the sound difference with running it on nitromethane straight away. Nitro gives it a much more aggressive sound.

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

  • @TheRoulette77
    @TheRoulette77 Рік тому +1

    LOVE THE SMALL OF NITRO IN THE MORNING!!!

  • @mehdik348
    @mehdik348 Рік тому +1

    As always cool idea cooler results...

  • @lolcec81
    @lolcec81 Рік тому

    Комментарий в поддержку канала и ролика, а также труда мастера.

  • @hotrodZack1948
    @hotrodZack1948 Рік тому

    That was a huge improvement

  • @lorriecarrel9962
    @lorriecarrel9962 Рік тому +4

    I would absolutely love to see a miniature turbo diesel

  • @dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol

    Awesome!! I converted mine to nitro also, revs way better.👍👍👍👍

  • @anonymously241
    @anonymously241 Рік тому

    Wow! 😲 Two stroke engine 👍

  • @adammorris3082
    @adammorris3082 Рік тому +2

    Nice - It definitely sounded better on nitro and looked a lot more responsive than it did running on petrol- I think It'd be a lot better if you give each cylinder it's own carburettor too. It also looks like a prime target for some air charging - Have you ever thought about using a small EDF or driving your own design of super charger with a little brushless motor so it doesn't leach any power/torque from the engine? Good vid as always, Thanks - All the best.

  • @khaymahv4027
    @khaymahv4027 Рік тому

    the genius is back

  • @OFFFishing
    @OFFFishing Рік тому +1

    Nitro sounds so 😎 🔥

  • @Guns_N_Gears
    @Guns_N_Gears Рік тому

    Love to see that in a boat!!!

  • @renelaizer6518
    @renelaizer6518 Рік тому

    Great solution. Simplicity....

  • @Take_N
    @Take_N Рік тому

    So good!!
    Like a 2stroke Ehgine!!!

  • @philipcharles9342
    @philipcharles9342 Рік тому

    that is sick!

  • @scoptimizations
    @scoptimizations Рік тому +2

    Very nice indeed.
    Considering how big the carburettor is on 3,5ccm and like 4.6 or 5.9ccm,
    you should definitely get something bigger! This thing is restrictive af.
    Also one which is not turning. It should slide to the side!
    Due to the "special" engine use, you should take one with 3 needles to adjust (+1 for idle).
    Then you should definitely do something with the cam timing. There is basically no "valve crossing",
    so a point, where both valves are open at the same time, this is mandatory for high revving engines.
    Without, you will never experience any high rpm things. Especially on NA engines. On Turbos its..
    more for cooling EGT rather than getting more air into the engine.
    I can send you a high performance 3.5ccm carburettor which should fit your needs,
    but I want to see nice contents with it!

  • @slsamg_5thscale
    @slsamg_5thscale Рік тому

    Nice throttle response!

  • @jacquesmeades3415
    @jacquesmeades3415 Рік тому

    I would love to see you try and do a diesel conversion on an engine like that if its possible but keep up the good work man

  • @ischwhit6747
    @ischwhit6747 Рік тому

    this was the shortest period between uploads i have ever seen johnny do

  • @marcello033
    @marcello033 Рік тому

    You'r a amazing guy

  • @judgejimbobrowntown3214
    @judgejimbobrowntown3214 Рік тому +3

    I think the gas one sounded better but obviously the nitro is making more power and the throttle response is amazing this is a cool engine curious to see what you’ll put it in

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

  • @johnprince5890
    @johnprince5890 Рік тому

    I love ❤ur work u are blesss

  • @TE_53349
    @TE_53349 Рік тому

    Stiffer valve springs and lapped valves would be awesome on this little thing

  • @77Dok77
    @77Dok77 Рік тому

    You do some awesome work. Love the sound of that thing.
    Quick question though, is there any reason spark plugs wouldn't work for nitro/methanol? Would they not ignite the mixture?

  • @LinusTheTrain
    @LinusTheTrain Рік тому

    Your very talented, you should make a RC car dragster with your engines.

  • @exo068
    @exo068 Рік тому

    Nice a new great video 👍 Can you turbo it or would it break the engine?

  • @dustingreaser
    @dustingreaser Рік тому

    Love your stuff. Any particular reason you decided to use M3 bolts instead of studding the block?

  • @713Ace529
    @713Ace529 Рік тому +1

    Dennis Radio out of Control swapped the carb with a trx15 but I suggest the SH18 carb it has a bigger venturi and May assist more air flow. Plus is supposed to be easier to tune. Could be a good test experiment. Runs Nicely 👍

  • @allenl9031
    @allenl9031 Рік тому

    Now it needs a two carb setup to mimic hotrodders back in the day.
    There still are banger 4 cylinder cars that run classes at Bonneville.
    Build a lakester tribute.

  • @seancotter1965
    @seancotter1965 Рік тому +1

    Really cool engine. Purely from sound though it's definitely not running on all cylinders, maybe issues with fuelling evenly on all 4? Regardless it's nice to see something so well put together and way beyond what I could afford!

  • @Rattus-Norvegicus
    @Rattus-Norvegicus Рік тому

    I would love to see you build a test chassis to try out the different motors on.

  • @traxxasrc10
    @traxxasrc10 Рік тому

    Nitro has that lovely crackle idle. Like the TF dragsters have.

  • @TheZiggyman01
    @TheZiggyman01 Рік тому

    You could polish the valve seats to get a better seal when you add the new springs

  • @sakisSAVAGER
    @sakisSAVAGER Рік тому

    Καλησπέρα σε ολους!!

  • @jeffussery4884
    @jeffussery4884 Рік тому

    It definitely sounded allot better. When we were kids in the 70's we use to mix 50/50 Cox airplane nitro fuel and gas for are Briggs, or Tecumseh powered go karts, and mini bikes. All the engines back then were flatheads. It didn't help much on the low end, but mid to top end it made the difference. The only thing it ate the electrodes on the spark plugs.

  • @KATHLEEN-XM772
    @KATHLEEN-XM772 Рік тому

    also modyifing the front wheel of the main axel to fit a cooling fan so that way you can use it in a RC car more efficiently with the radiator, also maybe to avoid the cracking of the Carburator pipes, maybe use 1 carburator per 2 pistons or 4 carburators for all 4, would love to see the building process

  • @Arhange1790
    @Arhange1790 Рік тому

    Smoooothe operator on Nitro)

  • @austacedavid1747
    @austacedavid1747 Рік тому +17

    What happens when you make the exhaust pipe longer like a foot or two? I'm curious

  • @Zobakka
    @Zobakka Рік тому

    От новых винтов в голове скоро увидишь на рабочей поверхности гильзы следы.

  • @kb02andthewhistlestoprailr3
    @kb02andthewhistlestoprailr3 Рік тому +1

    It would be so cool to see that in an RC ‘32 Ford.

  • @crazymtbrider
    @crazymtbrider Рік тому +3

    I'd really love to see a scaled down Dyno to see what power is at the wheels after it's went through the gearbox and diffs

    • @cet.420
      @cet.420 Рік тому

      same

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

  • @nickgibson1191
    @nickgibson1191 Рік тому

    Very cool

  • @TaylorVanconant
    @TaylorVanconant Рік тому

    It would be soo cool to see a mini diesel

  • @wandymx9778
    @wandymx9778 Рік тому

    👏👏👏👏 Braavvooo mantap bin keren mesin mini yang cantik ini luar biasa MANTAP 👍👍👍💖💖💖 untuk bahan bakar nya dari minyak apa??

  • @kf6qbw
    @kf6qbw Рік тому

    outstanding

  • @zacharymurphy8575
    @zacharymurphy8575 Рік тому +1

    What is the most reliable/ powerful motor you have tested? Would that vtwin take that air pump you made not to long qgo

  • @NineInchTyrone
    @NineInchTyrone Рік тому

    So cool

  • @generoll59
    @generoll59 Рік тому

    neat tools

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus Рік тому

    I still say you should put the V-Twin engine on a Motorcycle build, which if IRC would be a first for you. It would looks sick AF on a bagger or chopper. 👍👍

  • @raiftadehara9218
    @raiftadehara9218 Рік тому

    How do you like your seek compact pro? I went w the blackview bv6600 pro and I love that thing

  • @radweld
    @radweld Рік тому

    Nice 1/5 scale chassis needed for that

  • @JoseRivera-ym3wj
    @JoseRivera-ym3wj Рік тому +3

    It seems that Johnny has a preference on using nitro over gasoline. Two gas engines converted to run on nitro?
    Is it that harder for these small engines to run on gasoline than on nitro? I'm sure that the larger ones I've seen in other videos run fine on gas.

    • @thems5099
      @thems5099 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uj9hGpD6kBE/v-deo.html

  • @user-st6ki7kr7z
    @user-st6ki7kr7z Рік тому

    動画の開始から808👍️ぐぅ➰凄いですね❗
    自作のエンジンは難題がありますが、作る楽しみは見る私も楽しめます。
    使用燃料はアルコール系なので冷却がガソリンよりも優れていますね!
    通常は外部のスターターですが、セルを一体化して装備するのは何かのエンジンを再現したのかな?

  • @Orygunner67
    @Orygunner67 Рік тому

    You actually have a thermal imaging app on your phone? That's totally awesome! Is that exclusive to Samsung?

  • @hawkman8835
    @hawkman8835 Рік тому

    This thing would be badass in a T bucket.

  • @coqfier
    @coqfier Рік тому

    curious to see what it could give in an RC car and also see what another exhaust could give

  • @ihateemael
    @ihateemael Рік тому

    15 degrees timing is good to start/idle on, but when you rev it up you'll want more like 30 degrees. That might be a reason for lack of response.

  • @dallasray2754
    @dallasray2754 Рік тому

    Can you make a 4 stroke 2 cylinder inline polaris sportsman 850 engine? It would be a really neat and simple build

  • @kamil538
    @kamil538 Рік тому

    Coud you use spark plugs?
    Also maybe play around with electronic injection if its possible

  • @hotstuff1969
    @hotstuff1969 Рік тому

    Nice.

  • @felipe100xxx4
    @felipe100xxx4 Рік тому

    Salve meu Mano eu sou brasileiro sou muito ceu fan

  • @JazzbLu
    @JazzbLu Рік тому

    I must say, it has a lot better throttle response but it does not idle well. I think with tuning the carb for gasoline, the way it should have been, it would run even better! Either way, great video.

  • @liamdtraxxas2011
    @liamdtraxxas2011 Рік тому

    Did u notice that the closest header witch would be no4 cylinder wasn't hot like the rest were glowing start it and check the first cylinder if it don't get hot the carb can't supply enough air/fuel to the end cylinders to solve that twin carbs,so what about doing a twin carb set up for more fine adjustment, and lapping or re-seating the valves coz as u knw thay properly not been done that good in the first place from factory and abit of port matching the inlet see if you can get a better flow and leaving it rough with help mixing the fuel and air, exhaust side help with the flow and give it a little polish to help get the exhaust gases out quicker if it's possible cos of the size. I would make a silencer box with at least a inch of tube each end to put on the end of the manifold for abit of back pressure. If it was me with your tools/machines check if it gets hot thn go from there. I would do the end can/silencer first to see if it helps thn the lapping and port matching/polishing/making flow better in the head and see how if it helps thn the twin carb set up. 🤔💯💯🔥👌👊👍

  • @iSMoKeKRoNic
    @iSMoKeKRoNic Рік тому

    Lil this sounds like a little monster

  • @raiftadehara9218
    @raiftadehara9218 Рік тому

    Thermal imaging is cool

  • @user-ow5ev5zu3m
    @user-ow5ev5zu3m Рік тому

    love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩❣️

  • @matui6983
    @matui6983 Рік тому +6

    Instead of using capscrews to secure the head it would be better in the long run to use studs with Acorn or Dome nuts. Make block stronger, and would look better too. Plus if the head has to come off again its more user friendly.

  • @kingnorlen
    @kingnorlen Рік тому

    Awesome as always! Sounds cool too! I'd love to see u build a highperformance one, porting everything, make a more better combustionchamber, oversize valves, some procharger-type supercharger, a proper intakeplenum and a more effective exhause manifold. I think it would be so good!

  • @fuzzybmw
    @fuzzybmw Рік тому +3

    I wonder what gas you were using for it originally. I didn’t think about it until now but if it’s a higher compression it might have needed a higher octane fuel to make it run better

  • @stanley4290
    @stanley4290 Рік тому

    its gonna blow up with nitro

  • @helmysetiabudi9915
    @helmysetiabudi9915 Рік тому

    Is the flywheel heavy? From my perspective, it looks heavy and it reduce the rpm limit

  • @devintom2409
    @devintom2409 Рік тому

    What was that piece u had hooked up to your phone so u could see the motor temp?

  • @thunderdick6117
    @thunderdick6117 Рік тому

    Did you change valve timing at all ? There may be a little more power to gain and since it's a flat head you don't have to worry about interference so maybe give that check

  • @Flodu60500
    @Flodu60500 Рік тому

    Trying to get it to lower RPM, like 1000-ish will give out more usable RPM range. That way you are still with original parts. Except for the glow plugs ;)

  • @dandodd6178
    @dandodd6178 Рік тому

    Hey Johnny , could you trying making a tesla turbine jet engine? It's a tesla turbine and a axial flow compressor on single shaft, could probably use a centrifugal compressor also.

  • @garystinten9339
    @garystinten9339 Рік тому

    Try running the engine on hho gas.. I want to see a dyno compared to nitro and regular petrol.
    Think it would be interesting on a micro scale and I've seen small generators a mower engines run pretty well on hho alone.

  • @dougzeller7429
    @dougzeller7429 Рік тому +1

    Now ask the company to put two of those together and make a ford flathead v8

  • @thegarbagegladiators4735
    @thegarbagegladiators4735 Рік тому

    This guy is going places. I can see him in the future building tiny engines!

  • @rogers8555
    @rogers8555 Рік тому

    wish working on my cars motor was this easy ..anyone got a shrink ray laying around ..on a side note should add some clamping force to the head with the bigger diameter heads

  • @youtubeurevil
    @youtubeurevil Рік тому

    I love what you are doing it`s great I wish I had the money yo buy a 1000 dollar miniature engine and play with !
    I would be miffed though if it runs like you showed us in your previous post would it not be a reason to send it back ?( I know I would)

  • @Enakc
    @Enakc Рік тому

    What suspension do you have on the rc car independent or?