It's aerodynamically better to put on top of the wing though it's usually less accessible. The racks act as wing fences, so it's probably one of the reason. At aoa the lower side has denser air, the launched missile has to experience the transition, it's way manageable on the upper side. Also the lower side of the airfoil is generally laminar regardless of the aoa so it contributes to the slightest amount of drag refinement.
sidenote: the point of wing fence is the generated vortices at high yaw angle, because the fence is not all the way down to the trailing edge it won't help at aoa in a simple fashion.
@@InTheAttic1945 now? 0.8-1.7 if you're on a Mirage, 0.7-1.6 if you're on the Jaguar. It also depends on how aware your opponent is and for some reason MiG-23s and J-7s are much more likely to flare them at close range so under 1.5 for those.
@@LordGangrel mig23s especially one flare everything always for some reason lol, every IRCCM missile ive shot, which is all of them cuz theres only 3.. but you get my point, aim9ms they still have to turn ofc
It's aerodynamically better to put on top of the wing though it's usually less accessible. That's why. Because at aoa the lower side has denser air, the launched missile has to experience the transition, it's way manageable on the upper side. Also the lower side of the airfoil is generally laminar regardless of the aoa so it contributes to the slightest amount of drag refinement.
Hoping this thing sells for a bit at least. Also I am not sure if you take any suggestions from comments but it would be neat to see you revisit the Mirage F1, 2000, or 4000 once the Magic 2 buff goes through. Always enjoy the vids Joob!
Reasons for the missiles on top of the wings: it frees up underwing stations for air to ground weapons , plus the missile seeker has a better field of view since it’s not blocked by the fuselage to one side or the other.
So I’m not an engineer but the way it was explained to me was that having hard points above or below wings doesn’t make any real difference in flight performance. Obviously though bombs don’t drop up too well so they’re typically below the wing, but yeah, if you weren’t going to overload the weight of the aircraft theoretically you could double the missile hard points of most aircraft lol
Why are they on top of the wings? Because the plane is suppose to be use as a CAS and you support to be flying low, so when you launch them they won't be hitting the ground as much as ones hanging below.
I feel like I’m the only one who actually likes it, obviously I’d prefer more missiles and a higher top speed, but flying it like an FRS.1 (staying low on the outside of the map, coming in at rat angles to get to people who don’t know you’re there) and I got a 3 kill my first game in it (would’ve been 4 but someone else’s missile was faster). It’s not a goated fighter by any means, but it’s more usable than people are giving it credit for.
I really like this plane. Matchmaker kinda hurts it and it ain't no mig23ml but you can still have fun with it and grind your tech-tree. Magik 2's are magik and the gun is really nice to aim.
This... with 2 magics 2s Missiles that have almost as good as flare resistance as the R73 Good ish range Good accel and speed All aspect and 35gs Can see the F4C, which doesn't get flares Perfect balance gaijin lol
I mean... You already had the Su-25ML with R-73s at 11.0, and there's flareless planes higher than the 4-C. But yes. Air is compressed AF, but in gaijins defense, even with decompression, bad/obsolete airframes with good missiles look pretty hard to balance.
@LordGangrel , yea I forgot about that su25 But yea air needs some heavy decompression. People have been praising gaijin for raising brs with new top tier jets but that's supposed to be a given not something that should be asked for
You can tell they just yoinked the regular jaguar model and just painted it differently because of the afterburner still being shite. If it was even a slightly new model they would’ve given it new burners I reckon Such a low effort, overtired and sad event vehicle on the SECOND CYCLE
Do you think you could make videos on the VG.33, J 22, D.500/501/510, Re.2000/2002, and/or Fokker D.XXI? They're real hidden low tier gems that none of the CCs seem to cover.
How can they add a plane, a copy-paste but otherwise, NEW plane with those fucking disgusting low poly afterburner textures. Just fucking update them Gaijin!
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3:59 casually does a Kvochur bell
Ohhhh the f14 i thought u meant joob did
dude that guy was gaming, wish it'd been a longer fight lmao
easy to do even without realistic controls
top gun inverse roles
that was cool but for some reason when he was behind he insisted on staying afterburner and lost the df lol
The missiles on the top of the plane just doesn't look right
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"My rapper name is actually lil' afghanistan'"
The reason why the magic 2's are on top-of-the-wing pylons is because it allows the Jaguar to carry a more robust ground strike loadout.
I assume that’s the reason and that is how India mounted them specifically as is why it’s modeled that way
@@csii6478 all the jags carry them over the wing
Yo threw shade at all the DCS players lol "I'm going cold"
Xddddd I just think talking in a super serious manor in the video game is funny lol
@@_Joob I bet you'd get a kick out of Growling Sidewinder then 😅
W U got against dcs?
0:50 The reason the Missiles are on top is so there were more pylons under the wings for bombs and fuel tanks and what not
it is wrong they are in top of the wings becouse all the pylons were already used by other weapons its not the same thing
@@not_aruej untrue, they decided to swap them so space was created. Look at the GR1 jag.
@@sm_extatic Incorrect. The missiles are on top because the plane might explode otherwise.
@@Thatoneguy-ro1sj what is blud yappening 😭😭
@@sm_extaticUntrue, I’m typing.
everyone: this plane sucks
me: nah... free rank 7 British, giving me 2 rank 7's and I haven't even bought a rank 6 yet
thats all I ever thought too
yeah this plane allowed me to reach rank 8 without needing to research a second f4 I will never use
at least this thing is better/more useful than the event tornado
Absolutely true
I still haven't touched that thing, it's just collecting dust in my hangar
It's aerodynamically better to put on top of the wing though it's usually less accessible. The racks act as wing fences, so it's probably one of the reason. At aoa the lower side has denser air, the launched missile has to experience the transition, it's way manageable on the upper side. Also the lower side of the airfoil is generally laminar regardless of the aoa so it contributes to the slightest amount of drag refinement.
sidenote: the point of wing fence is the generated vortices at high yaw angle, because the fence is not all the way down to the trailing edge it won't help at aoa in a simple fashion.
If i recall with the magic 2 update, it's basically going to be free kills if you have half a braincell for launch range.
They'll become reliable in front aspect and closer to the target in rear/side aspect. It'll be huge.
@@InTheAttic1945 now? 0.8-1.7 if you're on a Mirage, 0.7-1.6 if you're on the Jaguar. It also depends on how aware your opponent is and for some reason MiG-23s and J-7s are much more likely to flare them at close range so under 1.5 for those.
@@LordGangrel mig23s especially one flare everything always for some reason lol, every IRCCM missile ive shot, which is all of them cuz theres only 3.. but you get my point, aim9ms they still have to turn ofc
I dont get it ,pretty much they are like 100% hit,what kinda buff they need ?
@@ivicastepan2790 they struggled to get to their max Gs, now they do
Magic 2's will be a lot better after the next patch (if Gaijin decides to keep the buff). Won't really make this plane any better, sadly.
If i had to guess it was soo they could still carry out their max payload of bombs while having a FoX 2 for defense still
that’s what it was, yes
The reason for the missiles on top of the wing is to free up the hard points under the wing for more ground ordinance
It's aerodynamically better to put on top of the wing though it's usually less accessible. That's why. Because at aoa the lower side has denser air, the launched missile has to experience the transition, it's way manageable on the upper side. Also the lower side of the airfoil is generally laminar regardless of the aoa so it contributes to the slightest amount of drag refinement.
Its also bc so it can mount more stuff under the wings
Yeah@@meepthunder8060
The combat flaps work at any speed.. useful sometimes
we could have got like a mirage balzac or any other weird prototype and instead got a ctrl c ctrl v plane
gaijin not having a good air event (minus the C-S4) moment
kfir c.2 probs says otherwise
@@A_L_T_P I mean, that was 2 years ago, every plane between that has been meh copy pastes or strike aircraft.
Hoping this thing sells for a bit at least. Also I am not sure if you take any suggestions from comments but it would be neat to see you revisit the Mirage F1, 2000, or 4000 once the Magic 2 buff goes through. Always enjoy the vids Joob!
0:47 cartoon ahh after burner xd
Reasons for the missiles on top of the wings: it frees up underwing stations for air to ground weapons , plus the missile seeker has a better field of view since it’s not blocked by the fuselage to one side or the other.
Jaguar IS the peak of get 2 kills and die gameplay
yoooo hi freezed when will 200 hours of ground rb come out?
i got 3 in one match lol
theyre above the wings to free up the pylons for other stuff below, insane
Your afterburner looks cursed.
The missiles are in top because the hardpoints below the wings are for ground pounding
Yeah, it would be weirder if they did it the other way around
gaijin trying not to release another event attacker plane (impossible)
to the market place with this one
Yo i love the vids so much, also question, what sound pack do you use
Default war thunder sounds lol
Lil Afghanistan dropping 🔥!!
Waiting on the new release right now
actual water pistol canon
So I’m not an engineer but the way it was explained to me was that having hard points above or below wings doesn’t make any real difference in flight performance. Obviously though bombs don’t drop up too well so they’re typically below the wing, but yeah, if you weren’t going to overload the weight of the aircraft theoretically you could double the missile hard points of most aircraft lol
2:00 -Mine mine mine! Brain dead toptier moment.
Bad energy retention, 2 missiles, 150 rounds of cannon, constant uptier. Oooof
It's pretty decent but it still has the jaguar problem of awful energy retention
Can you bring back the old outro please?
Yeah this thing was predictably going to be bad. It should have its IRCM pod to make it competitive but it doesn’t get it.
Joob is the Spookston of Air content. Or is Spookston the Joob of ground content?
Me when event vehicle ground attacker in air RB
Lil Afghan
Why are the AA missiles on top of the wing? because then they dont block any pylones under the wing.
I just sent a Magic 2 at a flareless Mitsubishi F-1 but it's fine because i got a jaaaaaaag
Why are they on top of the wings? Because the plane is suppose to be use as a CAS and you support to be flying low, so when you launch them they won't be hitting the ground as much as ones hanging below.
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Whats up with the weird cartoonish afterburner flame on this plane?
War thunder afterburners still just look bad in general, some are worse than others but as a whole, they look like they’re out of a game from 2007 lol
Are we gonna talk about the guy at 3:59 😮
damn caught this video 48 seconds after uploading
The Jaguar I(s) S(hit) lmao
2:04 lol
Can you do the F4E again please
wtf happened to the afterburner
thats crazy
How do you ban maps in war thunder? That’s crazy, I’m level 100 and I never even knew
I am a real jooblet
I found it to be an easy spade I did it in 37 games
Guys should I sell it and if yes how long do I wait for price to go maybe up
Joob doesn't sound like Joob anymore, idk what it is but just sounds different.
I recorded this first thing in the morning, so it was probably my “I just woke up” voice lol
I feel like I’m the only one who actually likes it, obviously I’d prefer more missiles and a higher top speed, but flying it like an FRS.1 (staying low on the outside of the map, coming in at rat angles to get to people who don’t know you’re there) and I got a 3 kill my first game in it (would’ve been 4 but someone else’s missile was faster). It’s not a goated fighter by any means, but it’s more usable than people are giving it credit for.
1:55 footage about china india war in Tibet.
I really like this plane. Matchmaker kinda hurts it and it ain't no mig23ml but you can still have fun with it and grind your tech-tree. Magik 2's are magik and the gun is really nice to aim.
GOOBER
Joob is a goober. A Joober, if you will
This... with 2 magics 2s
Missiles that have almost as good as flare resistance as the R73
Good ish range
Good accel and speed
All aspect and 35gs
Can see the F4C, which doesn't get flares
Perfect balance gaijin lol
Air just needs to get decompressed, especially top tier
I mean... You already had the Su-25ML with R-73s at 11.0, and there's flareless planes higher than the 4-C. But yes.
Air is compressed AF, but in gaijins defense, even with decompression, bad/obsolete airframes with good missiles look pretty hard to balance.
@LordGangrel , yea I forgot about that su25
But yea air needs some heavy decompression. People have been praising gaijin for raising brs with new top tier jets but that's supposed to be a given not something that should be asked for
Don’t forget the A-10 with Aim9Ls and flares at 10.0
Yay I am happy I’m sub 1 hour to the video
So uhh Jaguar IS (overtiered)
Jaguar "Is S***"
Jaguar is a fun lower tier strike fighter... but at higher tiers... just nope.
it has potential if they down tier
Could see this would be a flop from the start
The effects for the afterburner are crapy looking.
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Joob i grinded so hard for this one and its so bad 10 games and not a single kill just died everytime
Rip
I don't usually say this, but skill issue, man. I'm far from a great pilot and still have a roughly 2:1 K/D on it
@@LordGangrel well i would agree but Im really good with other planes for CAS... I just cant get my gbu's to hit
You can tell they just yoinked the regular jaguar model and just painted it differently because of the afterburner still being shite. If it was even a slightly new model they would’ve given it new burners I reckon
Such a low effort, overtired and sad event vehicle on the SECOND CYCLE
Mid commentary moment 💀
The Jaaaaaaaaag
Smiggy 😢😢
IS THAT A CLARKSON REFERENCE ?!?1!?1!?1!1!
@@Collat3ralD4mage Hammond you idiot!!!!
@@Collat3ralD4mage HAMMOND!!!!!
Whats with your voice its so low at times
Low in volume or low pitch?
@@_Joob low pitch xD its sounds like you caught a cold or smth
Do you think you could make videos on the VG.33, J 22, D.500/501/510, Re.2000/2002, and/or Fokker D.XXI? They're real hidden low tier gems that none of the CCs seem to cover.
Nah that afterburner sprite looks god awful. $75 premiums but they havent improved the afterburners in 10 uears
Wyf is wrong with that afterburner animation? It looks hideous
damn im early
actually early for once
That thing is crap as hell
Good all aspect missile + mediocre attacker = pure sadness and a hefty BR raise
(Also can't wait to have to dodge IRCCM missiles in my ducking F-5E..)
Guess I'm first to the video 🤷🏽♂️
Nah imma stick my Pakistani A 5 is much better too
Coming from 9M, Magic 2 IRCCM sucks ass.
There shouldn’t be any irccm missiles below 12.0
How can they add a plane, a copy-paste but otherwise, NEW plane with those fucking disgusting low poly afterburner textures. Just fucking update them Gaijin!