Surfing is fun. but there are a lot of surfers who are being pushed by the waves. But Rob!! ️ You are surfing in perfect sync with the waves!! ️ That alone is a legend and respect! ️
When Rob surfs Go Fish, Seaside or Too Fish.. I can't really notice any difference.. It's so smooth! What is the biggest advantage and disadvantage of Too Fish over Go Fish and Seaside?
It sounds like the Too Fish takes different aspects that Rob liked about the Seaside and the Go Fish. The Go fish looks like your traditional twin-fin fish it also has kind of an aggressive outline and rail which makes it more preformation than a retro twin-fin fish. The Seaside is a quad setup with split keel fins and also has a pretty aggressive outline. It sounds like the major difference between these two boards is the bottom contours, the Go Fish has a single contour(?) through the fins (not sure on that) there might also be some sort of channel (he says something about this in the video) and the Seaside has a deep V double contour through the fins. The Too fish sounds like the bottom contours are similar to the Go fish, but there is some refinement. I think the major difference between the Seaside and the Go fish is the size of surf that they can hold in. It looks like Rob surfs the seaside in bigger pumping swell (I think in another video he talk about how he designed if ride tubes but I'm not 100% on that) and he surfs the Go fish in Weaker smaller swell. This is probably due to the hold that each board offers based on the fin set up and outline but that is speculation.
I remember they used to but I think hardly anyone did it. I remember always wanting to but couldn't get over the possible wait times. :( but I wish they would bring it back so I can get my old baked potato back in my quiver.
@@cwr8618 I would hope so. And with guys like Machado on the label, hoping he gets a bigger cut of it. I support Rob, and Kelly for that matter, so I like buying the FW boards. Not everyone agrees with that but hey are part of my generation.
Just getting back into surfing after 30 years away. Starting over is wild, everything is so much better, I don’t know where to start. Maybe bodybuilding for a bit to learn over again?
Just ordered this today. 5’11 80kg to replace a baked potato. Got to demo a 5’6 and it felt like a performance SB to be honest(for me). Ordered the 5’9😁
@@chrro466 i actually just got it yesterday and just back from first session. Ofcourse paddles into waves without issues on this size, super forgiving to glide over flat sections. It’s my first fish ever so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about 😓 but the moment I stood up on the first wave, was surprised on how unstable it was despite what I imagined based on looks. Not sure if it’s because less drag of fins or what but it’s a beast on rail and super fast. Ya I’m happy with it.
@@chrro466 yes I feel I could have gone smaller easily but its not what I was looking for this time. I wanted to replace my main grov. I think I made the correct choice in that regards. Riding the 5’6 felt very high performance in which I reach for other boards at that point. But nah could do.
At 6'3, 195 lbs I'm currently loving my 5'7 Seaside and looking to get the Too Fish. I'm stuck between the Too Fish 5'6 at 33.2 L and the 5'7 at 34.9 L. Any insights would be great! Leaning toward the 5'6 but a bit worried it may be too small.
Go fish was a glide stick, well balanced wide tail and plenty of width upfront. I can now ride the same size with a litre more volume. What's not to like !!
Great looking board, of course Rob is a style master and the waves he surfs are something I could only dream of here in Italy.... Besides that I'm into that model but I'm not sure about choosing the right size. I'm 5'9 50 yo and 75 kg, can you guys give me any suggestions pls?? Thank you in advance 🤙🏽
In comparison to the Go Fish, the Too Fish offers greater quickness in the pocket. While it may not hold a rail as well, it compensates with enhanced maneuverability, making it easier to navigate tight turns within the pocket and Too Fish is in Helium construction,
Rob is rad! I have the Seaside now. Can the new Twin Keels be used on the Seaside as a twinnie or has anyone played with riding the Seaside as a twinnie with other keels? TIA!
It holds in punchy waves. Rob was extremely deliberate in how he thinned out the foil of the board in the back third to offset the width of the tail. The Too Fish is fast in weak waves and still holds in powerful waves.
Good question. After originally designing the Sunday as both a single fin and twin keel option, Rob recently decided it should just be a twin fin after his experiences testing his new 'Too Fish Keel' set in it.
I used to LOVE watching Rob surf. He quite literally made going straight down the line look like the most stylish thing in the world. Anyone who watched the 1995 Billabong Challenge will no doubt appreciate that… Especially since he was styling it out at Gnaraloo which, as anyone who has ever had the fortune/misfortune (please delete as appropriate) to surf will tell you is especially impressive. That place takes some serious commitment. However… As soon as he started riding these obscure single and twin-fins and generally “niche” boards, I lost all interest in watching him surf. The first time I noticed it was around the time that “Shelter” came out and I noticed his surfing didn’t excite me anymore. Are they fun boards to ride? Sure! But (in my opinion - don’t shoot me!) these boards literally dictate how you can and can’t surf to an extent that, to me, it always kinda looks like he’s surfing around the limitations and quirks of his boards. I would give ANYTHING to see him spend an extended period of time on an actual performance board because I guarantee he’ll still absolutely rips and is a million times more stylish than our current crop of air-reverse-spamming robots. But will I be buying a fish he designed? Unfortunately not. I LOVE boards with wide tails but I also want to feel like there is some actual dialled-in performance there. So… Rob… If I could rub a lamp and wish to surf like ANY surfer who ever existed, it would 100% be you in the mid-to-late-90s. Since then, I’m sure you’re having an absolute blast but for us mere mortals who can’t afford a 15-board quiver, the fish is out I’m afraid. Oh… And France (I assume Hossegor?) is the absolute last place I’d take a fish. I’ve never surfed somewhere that you need a healthy dose of tail rocker more than you do in southwest France. I’ve surfed plenty of waves in Indo with really flat boards but there’s something about those dumpy beach breaks that (again, in my opinion) requires a fair bit of rocker.
I was just having that thought! - great board, and something I can surf in most conditions. I appreciate that brands like Christenson don't release tweaks to each model every year as if they just discovered the "secret sauce" (again) Firewire and Channel Islands seem to have a new model every few months that will change the world
as a regular footer myself don't pay much attention to goofies but when it comes down to Rob Machado everything changes he's def one of best goffy tube riders ever and the style is off the charts. He'll always be on top of my mind alongside Clay Marzo and Cory López. The new kids are good like Medina buy boy that flow and style of Rob is still unseen or please enlighten me
Do you mind if I ask… Why don’t you pay attention (in general) to people who surf goofy? I’m goofy but I’ve never really thought like that and I’m intrigued. Maybe that’s why I used to love watching Rob and Occy surf so much back in the mid-90s… Maybe it was unconscious bias. I’d just never thought about it. Saying that, I looooove (and loved) watching AI and JJF as well. Oh, and by the way, if you are anything like me, the reason that you hate Medina’s (and others’) “style” might be because of their 2-stage bottom turns. They literally NEVER draw a proper bottom turn line - there’s always a mid-turn “pump” and it absolutely infuriates me. Took me AGES to work out just what it was that I HATED about their style but one day it just hit me… I used to judge surf comps (to a relatively high standard) back in the early 2000s and, if I were on a panel now, they’d be getting downscored HEAVILY for not being able to draw out a bottom turn properly. Haha.
@@nomoreluke it makes lotta sense now what you mention that two step bottom turn thing which I guess they do so to get that extra speed as those are the kinda guys will go looking for airs right off the bat but yeah it def breaks the line and yes that's a huge thing thanks for sharing your breaking down of it and about me not paying attention to the goofies is just for let say learning reasons in the sense that there's really nothing in the practical sense from a goofy footer for a regular cuz it's all different once ur front foot is either left or right and even Kelly has mentioned it in some interviews how he's body is now so screwed given surfing is such an imbalanced sport in the sense that some parts of the body are used much more than other depending on which side you lean on etc and so if I see all the regulars like Curren, pat gadauskas or whatever the spelling, parko, Mick, Kelly, Taj, Andy, and the list goes on an on I can pay attention to the details that then I can replicate but if I do the same with the goofies, clay marzo for instance, probably my best goofie to watch right at the top of my mind, I can't try to replicate anything he does cuz the body experience is completely difference, and I guess that's also why unlike in skateboarding the switch stand has never really been a thing in surfing cuz it's such an almost impossible thing to do. I mean I've seen a seven time world champ woman live going switch hitting a reentry going goofie, she being natural footer, and was kinda embarrassing hehe if not knowing she was switch! Knowing that it was mind blowing instead. Dunno if I've made any sense despite the length but I hope so. And on top of that I'm goofie on a skateboard so again can't use the skate to practice or improve my surf, unfortunately I guess
We crafted the dimensions with Rob to make the Too Fish accessible to all levels of surfing talent. If you've got advanced ability, you can ride this shape as short as 6 to 8 inches shorter than your height. If you're a beginning surfer you can ride the Too Fish as long as you are tall. It suits every skill level by sizing appropriately to each talent level's volume range.
@@firewiresurfboards thanks for the insights! I ride a 6’6 tokoro scorpion (I used to ride a 5’7), I love drawing round house cutties and high carves on Gold Coast Beachies. I’m about 5’9 in height, any ideas?
It's a bit hard to take Machado and Firewire seriously when he's about 4 foot tall and weighs around 60kg. Or whatever. We were that size when we were 6 years old. He rides boards so short and with so few litres that it's just not relevant to normal sized surfers (noting most pros are relative midgets too). The waves he's on in videos also look much bigger than they really are. Sure he rips ... but he's riding a 5'4" or something with 24 litres. Real for you?
He’s 178 cm (5’10) and 68 kg. He’s taller than Kelly Slater which is 175 cm and 72 kg. His size is average, even on the higher side of the spectrum. He just rips so hard that he enjoys riding smaller board. No one is forcing you to ride the same sizes as he does. Your comment is so irrelevant. Think before you speak, please.
That man is in my top 2 favorites. Either him or Tom Curren are at the top. No big airs just pure soul.
Surfing is fun.
but there are a lot of surfers who are being pushed by the waves.
But Rob!! ️ You are surfing in perfect sync with the waves!! ️
That alone is a legend and respect! ️
Rob's the man,him and Tom Curren have the best style. Miss the Classic Machado Slater battles. Good memories though. Keep ripping Rob.
Torren Martin
Cant wait to get mine to review! Looks so fun to ride.
Looking forward to it, love your reviews!
@@kajtassi3639 🙏🤙
I watched him on the cliff at Uluwatu… Best Surfing I’ve Witnessed…. That was over 10 years ago but …. Smooth Beautiful…
Finally tried it today. Made me feel like a better surfer. Great board.
Where did you surf it?
@@firewiresurfboards C Street Ventura... it felt like riding a skateboard, super fun.
When Rob surfs Go Fish, Seaside or Too Fish.. I can't really notice any difference.. It's so smooth! What is the biggest advantage and disadvantage of Too Fish over Go Fish and Seaside?
We are waiting for your review to find that out :-)
It sounds like the Too Fish takes different aspects that Rob liked about the Seaside and the Go Fish. The Go fish looks like your traditional twin-fin fish it also has kind of an aggressive outline and rail which makes it more preformation than a retro twin-fin fish. The Seaside is a quad setup with split keel fins and also has a pretty aggressive outline. It sounds like the major difference between these two boards is the bottom contours, the Go Fish has a single contour(?) through the fins (not sure on that) there might also be some sort of channel (he says something about this in the video) and the Seaside has a deep V double contour through the fins. The Too fish sounds like the bottom contours are similar to the Go fish, but there is some refinement. I think the major difference between the Seaside and the Go fish is the size of surf that they can hold in. It looks like Rob surfs the seaside in bigger pumping swell (I think in another video he talk about how he designed if ride tubes but I'm not 100% on that) and he surfs the Go fish in Weaker smaller swell. This is probably due to the hold that each board offers based on the fin set up and outline but that is speculation.
@@josephsmith3870 AI could not have written better.
Finally a V2 of the go fish❤ take my money Rob
😂
Rad board and also… Rob could make riding a door look cool.
Both realities coexist
the editing/sound cut at 2:05 is just too clean - the comedic timing was solid, too. gave me a little chuckle. props.
Thank you for the feedback, we'll pass it to our team.
I have a 5'4" Seaside, how does it compares? what are the diferences?
Will FireWire ever do custom dims on any models?
I remember they used to but I think hardly anyone did it. I remember always wanting to but couldn't get over the possible wait times. :( but I wish they would bring it back so I can get my old baked potato back in my quiver.
@@ThomyeSurfs i'm sayin. the jumps between sizes are pretty big
@@cwr8618 it is very odd, some are less than 1L and other are greater than 1.5 with just a 1" jump in length.
@@ThomyeSurfs yea man, it's kept me from buying a few models for sure. I wonder if it keeps their costs down as these things are mass produced.
@@cwr8618 I would hope so. And with guys like Machado on the label, hoping he gets a bigger cut of it. I support Rob, and Kelly for that matter, so I like buying the FW boards. Not everyone agrees with that but hey are part of my generation.
Just getting back into surfing after 30 years away. Starting over is wild, everything is so much better, I don’t know where to start. Maybe bodybuilding for a bit to learn over again?
Body strength/building is never a bad idea
More cardio I would recommend. Enjoy the surf journey 🤙🏾
HIIT training, swimming and weight lifting for strengthening joints. And balance boards and Surfskate to get the muscle memory going.
flexibility and cardio!
Enjoy the new tech of wetsuits and boards. Its all advanced eons since you left the sport. Stay stoked!
Just ordered this today. 5’11 80kg to replace a baked potato. Got to demo a 5’6 and it felt like a performance SB to be honest(for me). Ordered the 5’9😁
@@chrro466 i actually just got it yesterday and just back from first session. Ofcourse paddles into waves without issues on this size, super forgiving to glide over flat sections. It’s my first fish ever so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about 😓 but the moment I stood up on the first wave, was surprised on how unstable it was despite what I imagined based on looks. Not sure if it’s because less drag of fins or what but it’s a beast on rail and super fast. Ya I’m happy with it.
@@chrro466 yes I feel I could have gone smaller easily but its not what I was looking for this time. I wanted to replace my main grov. I think I made the correct choice in that regards. Riding the 5’6 felt very high performance in which I reach for other boards at that point. But nah could do.
oh lord, board looks sick. Looking forward to seeing it in the lineup and getting on it.
Looking forward to watching the review ;)
At 6'3, 195 lbs I'm currently loving my 5'7 Seaside and looking to get the Too Fish. I'm stuck between the Too Fish 5'6 at 33.2 L and the 5'7 at 34.9 L. Any insights would be great! Leaning toward the 5'6 but a bit worried it may be too small.
Get the 5'7. With the Too Fish, it's best to size up if you're caught between sizes.
What would be proper dimensions for me? Im 5'8" and 145 lbs...looking at traditional PU@@firewiresurfboards
Go fish was a glide stick, well balanced wide tail and plenty of width upfront. I can now ride the same size with a litre more volume. What's not to like !!
Dang! At about 5:50 Rob is ripping on a good size wave. I'm curious to hear what size Too Fish he rides. Great video guys. Board looks great.
Rob rides the 5'2.
And always without a leash, even in good-sized waves.
He has a leash on at 5:57 @@Guiem-qm2xd
Great looking board, of course Rob is a style master and the waves he surfs are something I could only dream of here in Italy.... Besides that I'm into that model but I'm not sure about choosing the right size. I'm 5'9 50 yo and 75 kg, can you guys give me any suggestions pls?? Thank you in advance 🤙🏽
i want one !
I am on my 3rd 5'8 Seaside and love it still. Keen on a smaller wave board, Too fish ? Or not too fish? 5'8 or bigger?
Go with the 5'9 Too Fish.
I think that the Sensei @rob_machado has finally answered the ultimate question... Too Fish or Not Too Fish!!!
That is the question!
How does this compare to Go Fish?
In comparison to the Go Fish, the Too Fish offers greater quickness in the pocket. While it may not hold a rail as well, it compensates with enhanced maneuverability, making it easier to navigate tight turns within the pocket and Too Fish is in Helium construction,
@@hawaiiansouthshore thanks for the response. 🤙🏾
Rob is rad! I have the Seaside now. Can the new Twin Keels be used on the Seaside as a twinnie or has anyone played with riding the Seaside as a twinnie with other keels? TIA!
K1 Keels work great on a seaside.
To Fish or Too Fish?
Looks like a lovely shape! As a fish fan I need to know - is this a weak wave board only or does it hold when it gets punchy? 🤙
It holds in punchy waves. Rob was extremely deliberate in how he thinned out the foil of the board in the back third to offset the width of the tail. The Too Fish is fast in weak waves and still holds in powerful waves.
I saw the Sunday is only a twin fin now. Did anything else change? What was the reason for removing the single option?
I just bought a Sunday, picked it up from the Firewire warehouse. It has the single option.
Good question. After originally designing the Sunday as both a single fin and twin keel option, Rob recently decided it should just be a twin fin after his experiences testing his new 'Too Fish Keel' set in it.
@@parabola8933 The new ones don’t.
@@charleshawk6668 I see...
What an amazing marketing campaign ....... Why not implement Tom Curren models???
I used to LOVE watching Rob surf. He quite literally made going straight down the line look like the most stylish thing in the world. Anyone who watched the 1995 Billabong Challenge will no doubt appreciate that… Especially since he was styling it out at Gnaraloo which, as anyone who has ever had the fortune/misfortune (please delete as appropriate) to surf will tell you is especially impressive. That place takes some serious commitment. However… As soon as he started riding these obscure single and twin-fins and generally “niche” boards, I lost all interest in watching him surf. The first time I noticed it was around the time that “Shelter” came out and I noticed his surfing didn’t excite me anymore. Are they fun boards to ride? Sure! But (in my opinion - don’t shoot me!) these boards literally dictate how you can and can’t surf to an extent that, to me, it always kinda looks like he’s surfing around the limitations and quirks of his boards. I would give ANYTHING to see him spend an extended period of time on an actual performance board because I guarantee he’ll still absolutely rips and is a million times more stylish than our current crop of air-reverse-spamming robots. But will I be buying a fish he designed? Unfortunately not. I LOVE boards with wide tails but I also want to feel like there is some actual dialled-in performance there. So… Rob… If I could rub a lamp and wish to surf like ANY surfer who ever existed, it would 100% be you in the mid-to-late-90s. Since then, I’m sure you’re having an absolute blast but for us mere mortals who can’t afford a 15-board quiver, the fish is out I’m afraid.
Oh… And France (I assume Hossegor?) is the absolute last place I’d take a fish. I’ve never surfed somewhere that you need a healthy dose of tail rocker more than you do in southwest France. I’ve surfed plenty of waves in Indo with really flat boards but there’s something about those dumpy beach breaks that (again, in my opinion) requires a fair bit of rocker.
Hey Rob it’s like a gathering of tribes man!
Having a hard time deciding if I should scoop a too fish or seaside …
Looks like an Chris Christenson Fish? 🤔
I was just having that thought! - great board, and something I can surf in most conditions.
I appreciate that brands like Christenson don't release tweaks to each model every year as if they just discovered the "secret sauce" (again)
Firewire and Channel Islands seem to have a new model every few months that will change the world
as a regular footer myself don't pay much attention to goofies but when it comes down to Rob Machado everything changes he's def one of best goffy tube riders ever and the style is off the charts. He'll always be on top of my mind alongside Clay Marzo and Cory López. The new kids are good like Medina buy boy that flow and style of Rob is still unseen or please enlighten me
Do you mind if I ask… Why don’t you pay attention (in general) to people who surf goofy? I’m goofy but I’ve never really thought like that and I’m intrigued. Maybe that’s why I used to love watching Rob and Occy surf so much back in the mid-90s… Maybe it was unconscious bias. I’d just never thought about it. Saying that, I looooove (and loved) watching AI and JJF as well.
Oh, and by the way, if you are anything like me, the reason that you hate Medina’s (and others’) “style” might be because of their 2-stage bottom turns. They literally NEVER draw a proper bottom turn line - there’s always a mid-turn “pump” and it absolutely infuriates me. Took me AGES to work out just what it was that I HATED about their style but one day it just hit me… I used to judge surf comps (to a relatively high standard) back in the early 2000s and, if I were on a panel now, they’d be getting downscored HEAVILY for not being able to draw out a bottom turn properly. Haha.
@@nomoreluke it makes lotta sense now what you mention that two step bottom turn thing which I guess they do so to get that extra speed as those are the kinda guys will go looking for airs right off the bat but yeah it def breaks the line and yes that's a huge thing thanks for sharing your breaking down of it and about me not paying attention to the goofies is just for let say learning reasons in the sense that there's really nothing in the practical sense from a goofy footer for a regular cuz it's all different once ur front foot is either left or right and even Kelly has mentioned it in some interviews how he's body is now so screwed given surfing is such an imbalanced sport in the sense that some parts of the body are used much more than other depending on which side you lean on etc and so if I see all the regulars like Curren, pat gadauskas or whatever the spelling, parko, Mick, Kelly, Taj, Andy, and the list goes on an on I can pay attention to the details that then I can replicate but if I do the same with the goofies, clay marzo for instance, probably my best goofie to watch right at the top of my mind, I can't try to replicate anything he does cuz the body experience is completely difference, and I guess that's also why unlike in skateboarding the switch stand has never really been a thing in surfing cuz it's such an almost impossible thing to do. I mean I've seen a seven time world champ woman live going switch hitting a reentry going goofie, she being natural footer, and was kinda embarrassing hehe if not knowing she was switch! Knowing that it was mind blowing instead. Dunno if I've made any sense despite the length but I hope so. And on top of that I'm goofie on a skateboard so again can't use the skate to practice or improve my surf, unfortunately I guess
RM, if you're in SoCal handing out boards again, 5'6 model for me please ^_^ btw, love the Go Fish, I'm stoked to get this new one!
were those 5'6" that rob had in the video with him?
His size is 5'0"
Looks fun but tail still looks super wide and he shortened it quite a bit
The width is offset by a drastically thinning foil in the back third of the board. Goes fast in the weak stuff and holds in the steep stuff.
@@firewiresurfboards thin in the back is great. Shorter rail line seems to makes it a bit trickier to not catch the nose if you're pocket surfing.
When the volcanic/woolight(!!!!!!!!!) 6'0'' is out???
Omg , i no have.mpney for it 😢 one day god will give me one of these
I wish you guys would stop with all these boards. My wife is gonna kill me when I bring another Firewire home!!!!
Go Fish 2.0 without the channel???
Yes.
Epic
i need a blow fish, the fish with blown up volume
The Too Fish is sized up to 6'3 with 46.2 liters.
I want to buy this board… then I realise I don’t surf as good as Rob 😢
We crafted the dimensions with Rob to make the Too Fish accessible to all levels of surfing talent. If you've got advanced ability, you can ride this shape as short as 6 to 8 inches shorter than your height. If you're a beginning surfer you can ride the Too Fish as long as you are tall. It suits every skill level by sizing appropriately to each talent level's volume range.
@@firewiresurfboards thanks for the insights! I ride a 6’6 tokoro scorpion (I used to ride a 5’7), I love drawing round house cutties and high carves on Gold Coast Beachies. I’m about 5’9 in height, any ideas?
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Holy crap I dint know rob zombie surfs
🤮🤙🏾
Love to watch Rob surf but he's not what I would call a shaper. I hope others like his stuff for his prosperity.
He's got his own shaping bay across the street from his house.
You're kidding right? Rob's been shaping for a very long time.
It's a bit hard to take Machado and Firewire seriously when he's about 4 foot tall and weighs around 60kg. Or whatever. We were that size when we were 6 years old. He rides boards so short and with so few litres that it's just not relevant to normal sized surfers (noting most pros are relative midgets too). The waves he's on in videos also look much bigger than they really are. Sure he rips ... but he's riding a 5'4" or something with 24 litres. Real for you?
Maybe lose some weight and get fit or buy a board that fits you. No one is saying you need to be on a 5'4 lol.
I think Rob is about 5 10 and 65kg. That's a very big 6 year old no?
Dumb comment dude
Someone’s jelly 😂… just extrapolate his dims to yours. We learned about proportions back when we were six.
He’s 178 cm (5’10) and 68 kg. He’s taller than Kelly Slater which is 175 cm and 72 kg.
His size is average, even on the higher side of the spectrum.
He just rips so hard that he enjoys riding smaller board. No one is forcing you to ride the same sizes as he does.
Your comment is so irrelevant. Think before you speak, please.
Perhaps better dam it is a y kave whos meanms 2 kaves in front da 2 fins 1 deepeem ONE kave inside da fins tham ZUNM...NOOOOOOUHu...