I did this for a school project on a natural history event, & most people ridiculed me because it was so obscure. I got full marks because it stood out, & was a significant event!😊❤❤
For anyone who enjoys video games, there's a sequence in the historical fiction game 'Assassin's Creed Rogue' that depicts this tragedy. The game is set during the Seven Years War in the mid-to-late 18th century. You visit Lisbon, specifically the Convento da Ordem do Carmo, to steal a relic from beneath the church. In the game lore, it's your character lifting the relic that triggers the quake, which you must escape as the building and city streets collapse around you. It's honestly one of the most jaw dropping moments I've had while gaming, and it inspired me to learn more about the actual event. I highly recommend it.
The most scary thing about this earthquake and some shocks from the earthquake were felt throughout Europe as far as Finland and in North Africa, and according to some sources even in Greenland and the Caribbean
This earthquake also got Portuguese music stuck in the past. As the rest of Europe embraced opera and musical thematic experimentation, Portugal, having all the theaters of Lisbom destroyed and losing most of its more daring musicians, turned its back to more modern music and focused all subsides in old fashioned religious choirs. That's why Portugal (and, by extention Brazil and the other Portuguese colonies) totally missed on the golden age of opera and the early popularization of classical music that followed.
surely as everything it have had their sweet and sour... brazil has been also the birthplace of beatifull new kind of music and rythms, many of them mixes of local, european, and african slaves roots you cannot find anywere else... I am thinking in bossa nova, batucadas, the music from capoeira... probably are much more recent, but surely they would have been take longer to rise if they were doing at the beginning the same as everyone else.
Well, that's good for old fashioned religious choir music, unless we are supposed to believe that something should go extinct merely because it's "old fashioned."
Portugal is remembered in Goa and Ceylon for introducing ' Baila' music. This is a mixture of Creole and African music with Portuguese overtones. It is a popular type of music that drives people to dance.
Its hit or miss, the current National Archives are built different, I believe anything short of a direct nuclear attack will make them remain intact. There are documents that appered through the ages, for example, the age of discovery is mostly explained by the works of Zurrara, however in the XIX it was found the Chronicle of Guiné which is the principal source on Henry the navigator and Unfortunatly the book is in France, because it was taken from Portugal after the disastrous Convention of Sintra, which allow the French to exit Portugal with their loot in 1808. It wasnt just the earthquake.
On a more mundane note, Pombal was responsible for rebuilding the streets in more of a military design. That is why Lisbon has mostly straight streets unlike other old cities like Sevilla. Also, the king was to afraid to go back into his palace and spent the rest of his life in a royal tent.
At school we learn alot about the earthquake, Pombal and the reconstruction but we where never told this was the beginning of moder seismology or that he did the inquires. It was nice to learn that!
@@nacht98 its not actually about studying your lesson well , yall seem Portuguese , u for real remember every little detail u learned in Portugal History? ofc u dont , its so extensive that probably only the middle east and one or two European country's have a bigger history then Portugal, they do teach the basic concept of the inovations that Pombal made , but the details like inquires for sure slip thru my mind with time even if they were taught in school
In Portugal they only talk about the Lisbon Earthquake. But they never teach how big the earthquake was. It was one of the biggest ever, probably the biggest ever. One of the things that lead us to assume it was just a simple earthquack, is the name. Lisbon Earthquack. We assume it was only in Lisbon. No. It was a massive earthquack felt in Europe, Africa, Asia and even America. The tsunami and the quack killed and destroid so many towns all over the place. It's called Lisbon just because it destroyed to the ground almost all Lisbon, and at the time Lisbon was one of the biggest cities in the world and probably the richest city in the world. It stand out. But the havoc was almost global. And the aftermath changed everything
When asked what to do, the Marques de Pombal, answered:"Take care of the survivors and bury the decease d ones". That's the phrase that defined him at the time.
we have to analyze the mentality of the people from that time, which God and religious was playing a big role on peoples lives, so this made them questioning God and also the Earthquake destroyed churches and sparing brothels made them questioning even more.
Very interesting brief history about the devastating earthquake in Lisbon in the 18th century. I’m from California where I went through 2 pretty bad earthquakes during my time there and now I live in Lisbon. I’m going to go see that show it looks really good.
When walking the Camino de Santiago, along Northern Spain, there were towns affected by this Earthquake, hundreds of miles away from Lisbon even church towers were collapsing in Northern Spain.
Portugal wasn't wealthy because of the colonies, Portugal colonies are just a consequences of it's growth. People like to add conclusions, we have to not let them pass, the conclusion is a non sequitur.
I experienced the 7.8-magnitude 1906 San Francisco earthquake in a museum there, they has a "shaker table" platform that held about eight people standing up. You climbed up onto it and they "replayed" the earthquake, the actual length and magnitude of shaking of that infamous deadly quake. They had constructed a surround that covered three sides with photographs that showed what the city looked like back then, to make it feel even more realistic. I was born and raised in the Southern California suburbs and have vivid memories of the Sylmar earthquake, a 6.6-magnitude event in 1971 that caused tremendous damage and loss of life. This was the quake that began the era of retrofitting buildings and anchoring heavy and high furniture to walls to save lives. I was 8 years old, eating breakfast with my mom and brother in the kitchen when the quake began. My mother insisted standing in a doorway was the safest place, so the three of us held onto the door jams of our kitchen back door and marveled at the giant waves the earthquake created in our backyard in-ground swimming pool. The quake only lasted about 60 seconds, but when it stopped, more than half the water in the pool - something like 10,000 gallons - was just GONE, all sloshed out into the neighbors' yards. We lived about 45 miles southeast of the epicenter and were lucky our home was not damaged. Some of the concrete sidewalks around the pool had small cracks, but surprisingly, the pool had no damage at all; no cracks in the gunite or even the surface plaster. I recall it took about 24 hours for two or three garden hoses running full force to refill the pool. The neighbors were very irate that the chlorinated water killed their fancy-schmancy dichondra lawn...as if we did it on purpose :-) Oh, SoCal in the 70s, what a great time to live there! I escaped the smog, traffic and high cost of living in 1983, moving to the Colorado River where Arizona, Nevada and California meet. I have never regretted leaving, mostly because it's only a 4-hour drive to experience the ocean, museums, and cultural opportunities there. I live a block from the beautiful River in an affordable community where most peoples' "daily commute" takes 15 minutes max. And we don't have earthquakes here (so far).
The earthquake happened at 1 November, Feast of All Saints. It is not told on this video, but this coincidence enforced the phylosofical problem of evil, that is the question of how to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God. In other words: God exists ? If yes, which God?
Lisbon was the financial hub of the slave trade. It was prosperous chiefly because of the dealing in slaves. This was a judgment from the Most High God but it affected a great part of the world as well. God never destroys the righteous with the wicked.
Because earth is a school. You agreed to experience the things you experience good and bad before birth. You also chose your family, and they chose you. Part of a cycle of reincarnation. So just as you experience the good, unfortunately the opposite as well. God is omniscient, omnipotent. He's in you and everything and human being--why quantum entanglement works. Much like the Trinity states--we are all a part of God, just different aspects. Like your hand is part of the same body as is your leg. Evil is a concept created by humans. In reality evil is part of the concept of the Law of polarity--to understand good, you have to understand evil. These are lessons learned by our spirit in our human versions in this Simulation. And you chose to learn these lessons before birth.
Atheism in Europe. Not every part of the world experience this and even if they experience this, the difference of experience and culture will bring different result. Modern atheism itself born after kratos kill zeus
Maybe in Portugal, and surely it just contributed. The philosophy of Baruch Spinoza could also be mentioned and most important the synthesis of ureum by Friedrich Wöhler. But one can think of dozens of other factors. Why would this earthquake be important if you lived far away in a protestant country?
Maybe they could/should have learned from the Siloam tower incident, since it seems to have brought up similar ideas. Though this may have been ignored on account of other things on people's minds, a lower literacy rate, or a lack of interest. Speculation about causes for disasters was not part of any sort of doctrine in the first place, but only simplistic thinking.
The credit for founding Atheism must go to the Buddha. When everyone else in the world both in the East and the West was leaning on a supramundane power ( there are thousands of Gods and belief systems) the Buddha taught boldly and daringly to rely on yourself and not on an external saviour to escape from suffering. This is the major challenge to everyone in this world. Both Monotheism (Christianity, Islam, Judaism rely on the same God and say prayers seeking help) and Polytheism ( e.g. Hinduism, a Polytheistic belief systems with thousands of Gods) are God fearing systems. Buddhism stands alone in this respect, advocating self- reliance and right action for your liberation from the coils of suffering. The Buddha did not wait for Natural Disasters like the Great Fire of Lisbon (1755) to proclaim that there was no loving God but from his own penetrating insights he discovered the uncompromising reality. Atheism originated from the wisdom of the Buddha. He was the first Sage in the world to declare that there was no external saviour and one must rely on one's own efforts for one's salvation.
The Buddha discovered the reality of a Godless world ( now known as Atheism and subscribed to by the vast majority of people in Christian Heritage countries in Europe) 2, 600 years ago. The most profound words ever in world history were proclaimed by the Buddha when he unhesitatingly declared that ' There is no God'. Today as Europe marches into perhaps the darkest and coldest Winter since the end of WW2, not much options are left for the residents of the European continent. Pray or accept the reality of Karma in action which rest of the world has lived with in stoic silence since recorded time began.
Why do you say that? Cities are much more safer today and houses... Well, they are like night and day difference with much more robust building and we have upped our game a lot in terms of emergency rescue, relief and all the support needed after a crisis situation like this. And the alert systems.... Well, those didn't even existed back then so I would say we learned a lot!
@@TheAllMightyGodofCod In the US, looking at how so many people responded to the Covid pandemic....rejecting science, attacking scientists, taking horse de-worming meds, and then dying, but not before making sure that lots of other people died as well....it did feel like a combination of the worst of religious nonsense with the worst of peasant stupidity.
This is a small piece of the origins of science, democracy, and liberalism -- in short, the start of the culture wars. For more thorough coverage, I recommend the book "The Dawn of Everything" by Graeber and Wengrow. In reality, it started with debates between missionaries and the indigenous people of the Americas over the topic of "freedom." What's described in this video was yet another domino to fall behind it. I highly recommend the book alongside this short video. More people need to understand the true nature of the culture wars and what fundamentally underlies conservative thought. There's a reason the world is sliding back into authoritarianism, and it has a lot to do with the authoritarian religion from which most of our culture sprang.
Supossedly. There are many factors that influence this. Just claiming that the truth is that it started with, whatever such and such claims it to be, is wildly inaccurate. No matter how credible the book any claimed starting point is arbitrarily chosen.
If I may ask, whom do you think is more responsible for falling back into an authoritarian world? Would you say it's more conservative thoughts or the progressive thoughts that are sending us that way? As I understand, conservatives want smaller government and more freedom....but what is wild is when you look at most leftist who claim to want freedom as well, well they clearly vote for bigger government and control...under the viel of socialism/ communism.
@@chancefluke7833 what really is wild is that the right wants less regulation. But supports authocrism. Something which will result in a complete pack of freedom.
@@chancefluke7833 OK, Smaller Govts means LESS for the Community. It allows for Big Corporations to rule. Less taxes that the Conservatives want to pay means less services for YOU. Why do Conservatives hate Healthcare for all? Why do they Hate Free Education for all? Why do they want a Govt that is only chosen by them? Plus
@@chancefluke7833 I wouldn't describe "leftist" thought in those terms. Progressivism seeks to use government for the good of all people and their economy-based systems. Government is a great invention ... a social contract ... that can advance societies to more and more freedoms and enlightenment when formed for the common good, not just the powerful. Bigger government needs to mean better government. I don't think anyone wants to be "controlled" by government. Finally, social programs in a democracy are not equivalent to communism ... and pure communism is not equivalent to dictatorships, which are the most extreme example of big "government".
The European enlightenment had already started by the time of the Portuguese earthquake , at the time when printing, science and general widening of education, from the upper classes to the lower and middle classes. It is allways the case that invention, science and the march of progress follows major human tragedies, such as a tsunami, plague and war. Look at the technological and cultural advances from the end of the 2 world wars, that form all parts of our world today for our most recent example.
One person who acknowledges God. One. At least this lifted my grieving soul. To hear that people "woke up" by starting the modern age and the road to enlightenment just kicked me in the gut.
Thanks to literally just means because of, it doesn't have to mean she's thankfully for it at all? Thanks to the earthquake, much of the city was destroyed is wildly different than saying I'm thankful the earthquake destroyed the city lol
The chain of events started by that earthquake also changed the language spoken in Brazil. Up to the earthquake, the most adopted language in Brazil was Nheengatu, a lingua franca made up of indigenous Brazilian languages and promoted by Jesuit missionaries. When Marquis of Pombal consolidated his power after his widely popular reconstruction of Lisbon, he decided that the language used in the colony of Brazil should be Portuguese, and Nheengatu was forbidden.
I am Brazilian and i never heard about this story or language you are talking about. Only the jesuit missionaries would speak indigenous languages, not the average populace. If you were right, we would have studied such literary records at school and we didnt
@@cz2301 You should study more. Nowadays knowledge is so accessible with a Web search engine such as Google! To know pieces of evidence for this conclusion by historians and to understand the Portuguese crown's rationale at that time, take a look at the four first texts that appear when you look up Nheengatu Pombal
@@cz2301 unfortunately schools have their syllabus highly edited to fit some historical points of view: as example think of the south american countries independence rush, were all comes together as a movement... schools will surely focus in how this astonishing mens fight to free their nations from the european control, but they never told you the other side, that they almost always rich families descendent loyal of the traditional monarquies fighting for keep america out of the hands of Napoleón which was conquering Europe at the same time. Both sides are true by the way, but commonly they only teach what better suit your nation identity. With this, is always good to seek for new sources when new information is shown to validate is veracity, just because your previous sources don't teach that doesn't inmediately make them false... specially is it from school, just think of how much importance have money in our lifes and current capitalist world, and think How much about money did you learn in school? Did they teach you how to negotiate a loan? How compound interest work? Which provitions you have monthly pay if you become an entrepreneur? How you pay taxes?... I can continue for an hour.
It depends if you want to tell some of the backstory of seismology or how liberal ideology (with its science, democracy, and egalitarian ideals) took shape. If the latter, then it cut way too much out. This was but one domino to fall in a series that started with debates about "freedom" with the indigenous people of the Americas. I strongly suggest reading "The Dawn of Everything" by Graeber and Wengrow to put this video into context.
Volatile as certainty moved by the Lisbon earthquake. And he was instrumental in the enlightenment and therefore the French Revolution. So to say it was the Lisbon earthquake was the start of the modern age has merit.
And now humanity is in serious need of a new enlightenment. Science needs even more power in society. Without it in power, its more than clear now that we're are doomed.
@MythTruster what i stated wasn't an elevation to "god" in any sort. what do you mean by better jobs and life standards? i don't know a single scientist that fits in that description, in fact, their condition is as poor and precarious as more common jobs. they don't feel their worker is recognised at all. The same happens with farmers, who are too a fundamental building block of society. What's on the table is that science achievements have, without doubt, built society as we know it today. just imagine a life without electricity, systems of refrigeration, planes or cars, forget supermarkets as you know them as you would have access only to local food, cell phones, the internet, health care, etc. So yeah, when you ask me "Why do you ppl who study science are better in any way?" I would say that science fruits, technology, is what make us different than more "primitive" civilisations. And to reach a point that a civilisation arises, technology (therefore science of some level) must have been reached. I was just stating that I believe that we should evolve further, further towards a more sustainable future, working with nature instead of against it (search for ernst gotsch's syntropic agriculture) and to achieve that we really need science to be allowed to speak without constraints (and we don't have much time left), we as humanity have been put chains by politics. Science could have taken us a lot further and to a better world if politics weren't holding hands with economists as we know them today. What you've described as science faults were in fact consequences fed by the economical system that we live in, an economical system that deviates technology to explore profit. that has its consequences, consequences such as: you being a product to social media, chemist developing the products that they are PAID to develop even tho they end up being harmful in the long run, etc. They have jobs that grant them survival, they are as chained as any other worker. They are often not free to choose what they want to make investigation about. Scientists are dependent on funds that often are paid by companies who have interests in developing a certain product, and these companies, having an economical model of reality don't care if their product will harm nature at all. I was stating that politics should be trusting scientists instead as science would shape the world in the opposite direction of exploitation. that's our world, a world where economists are in power.
@MythTruster from my experience and with all respect, religion is psychological violence/castration. I've been educated by jeovah witnesses and i remember believing what you say that you now believe. I thought they were the purest of the humans. Studying, simply by studying science it became obvious to me that it's just a scam. They don't ask for people's money directly, but at their "church" there is obviously a box over there for people to leave their money their freely. The superiors say that by leaving their money there they would be allowed to print more bibles, more magazines and rent auditoriums or even NATIONAL STADIUMS for their religious big events. People that work for the management of the events, the writing and drawings of the maganizes, the development of their animated videos or management of their website aren't paid for doing it, they are doing it freely because they are doing it for "god". So where do you think that all the money given by the believers goes? Only a small percentage is invested in the rents and the printings. Its brainwash, manipulation for profit, its capitalism, the current economical model. And unfortunately the believers, blind, are not incentivated to become educated (as it would be a threat to the church’s power), they are only incentivated to dedicate themselves to god. I’ve been there. It was a dark cave. Later I came the conclusion that this is how religion in general works, and in the opposite extreme is scientific freedom, where god creation is really revealed. Also, everything religious people say that a scientist says about nature is heavily distorted towards their own interests: to justify god and therefore to silence their threats. You cannot understand a scientist argument without mathematics. All their arguments have a mathematical origin. Everytime you see a scientific explanation or defense (as I am defending), its origin is mathematical. What happens is that one need to convert the mathematics into words to people that don't know the mathematics. The only way to a real understanding of the explanations is to see the mathematics by yourself because any attempt to translate the mathematics into words will distort the information because words are ambiguous. Unfortunately when religious people say that science offends "god" they loose completely the point. The absence of god in all scientific explanations doesn't mean that scientists aren't open for the idea of a god. You have scientists that believe in god and scientists that don't. And that belief is independent of their work, maybe /probably influenced by their understanding of nature but not a single one of them as proven the existence of god mathematically. It just means that, until now, all the things they have figured out about reality, such as the movement of astronomical objects, evolution etc. they have found precise explanations that don't need god at all. God simply hasn't appeared in science, it isn't needed to explain the rainbow, comets or any other phenomena that religion came in the past and upon a glance just said "oh its god". No, science dwelves in the phenomena, it investigates it deeply with no fear or restraints in questioning reality and it uses the only tool we have capable og dissecating its secrets, mathematics. From all the knowledge that scientists have gathered, Einstein influenced by the philosopher Spinoza and earlier others like Giordano Bruno or Galileo, understood that if god exists it is much much bigger than what religion makes of it. Einstein's god is nature itself, "he" reveals himself through mathematical laws, not through the bible. Mathematical truth unlike any other "truth" is unquestionable. The bible, on the other hand, is cleary questionable by its nature (buit/written with words which are by their own nature subject of different intrepretations), that’s why there are several religions based on the bible or other book, because every single one has its interpretation. On the other hand, science not being built by words but by numbers and logical reasoning (which also has its laws alike mathematical laws) is why you don’t why you don’t get 2 or more sciences out there in the world. Studying logic would early allow you to reach that conclusion. Religion doesn't dwelve in nature, it doesn't care about mathematical beauty, and mathematics is the language of the universe. Its because of having mathematics as a tool and not the bible that scientists managed to understand the world so well that they released the knowledge for mechanical, electrical and other engineers to use their findings to build societies infrastructures. If religion really understood nature it would find itself being able to manipulate it at the atomic scale. Scientists know reality so clearly that they see through the invisible, you can suspect that they are into something. Reality gives you two options, either to study science which is interested in reality in its cruest form independently on one's beliefs and be guided by mathematical rigour, or to be lost in a word of words to understand the world. And words are ambiguous so that won't work. In fact it will create wars. That is also why religions clash among each other too.
@MythTruster @MythTruster from my experience and with all respect, religion is psychological violence/castration. I've been educated by jeovah witnesses and i remember believing what you say that you now believe. I thought they were the purest of the humans. Studying, simply by studying science it became obvious to me that it's just a scam. They don't ask for people's money directly, but at their "church" there is obviously a box over there for people to leave their money their freely. The superiors say that by leaving their money there they would be allowed to print more bibles, more magazines and rent auditoriums or even NATIONAL STADIUMS for their religious big events. People that work for the management of the events, the writing and drawings of the maganizes, the development of their animated videos or management of their website aren't paid for doing it, they are doing it freely because they are doing it for "god". So where do you think that all the money given by the believers goes? Only a small percentage is invested in the rents and the printings. Its brainwash, manipulation for profit, its capitalism, the current economical model. And unfortunately the believers, blind, are not incentivated to become educated (as it would be a threat to the church’s power), they are only incentivated to dedicate themselves to god. I’ve been there. It was a dark cave. Later I came the conclusion that this is how religion in general works, and in the opposite extreme is scientific freedom, where god creation is really revealed. Also, everything religious people say that a scientist says about nature is heavily distorted towards their own interests: to justify god and therefore to silence their threats. You cannot understand a scientist argument without mathematics. All their arguments have a mathematical origin. Everytime you see a scientific explanation or defense (as I am defending), its origin is mathematical. What happens is that one need to convert the mathematics into words to people that don't know the mathematics. The only way to a real understanding of the explanations is to see the mathematics by yourself because any attempt to translate the mathematics into words will distort the information because words are ambiguous. Unfortunately when religious people say that science offends "god" they loose completely the point. The absence of god in all scientific explanations doesn't mean that scientists aren't open for the idea of a god. You have scientists that believe in god and scientists that don't. And that belief is independent of their work, maybe /probably influenced by their understanding of nature but not a single one of them as proven the existence of god mathematically. It just means that, until now, all the things they have figured out about reality, such as the movement of astronomical objects, evolution etc. they have found precise explanations that don't need god at all. God simply hasn't appeared in science, it isn't needed to explain the rainbow, comets or any other phenomena that religion came in the past and upon a glance just said "oh its god". No, science dwelves in the phenomena, it investigates it deeply with no fear or restraints in questioning reality and it uses the only tool we have capable og dissecating its secrets, mathematics. From all the knowledge that scientists have gathered, Einstein influenced by the philosopher Spinoza and earlier others like Giordano Bruno or Galileo, understood that if god exists it is much much bigger than what religion makes of it. Einstein's god is nature itself, "he" reveals himself through mathematical laws, not through the bible. Mathematical truth unlike any other "truth" is unquestionable. The bible, on the other hand, is cleary questionable by its nature (buit/written with words which are by their own nature subject of different intrepretations), that’s why there are several religions based on the bible or other book, because every single one has its interpretation. On the other hand, science not being built by words but by numbers and logical reasoning (which also has its laws alike mathematical laws) is why you don’t why you don’t get 2 or more sciences out there in the world. Studying logic would early allow you to reach that conclusion. Religion doesn't dwelve in nature, it doesn't care about mathematical beauty, and mathematics is the language of the universe. Its because of having mathematics as a tool and not the bible that scientists managed to understand the world so well that they released the knowledge for mechanical, electrical and other engineers to use their findings to build societies infrastructures. If religion really understood nature it would find itself being able to manipulate it at the atomic scale. Scientists know reality so clearly that they see through the invisible, you can suspect that they are into something. Reality gives you two options, either to study science which is interested in reality in its cruest form independently on one's beliefs and be guided by mathematical rigour, or to be lost in a word of words to understand the world. And words are ambiguous so that won't work. In fact it will create wars. That is also why religions clash among each other too.
Those churches and cathedrals are huge and tall. I actually don't think the simulation in the video does them justice. The day it happened churches were supposedly filled for mass. One can just imagine those tall stone ceilings and chandeliers coming down, and perhaps walls or columns.
Ilked that bit at the end about revolutions. The American revolution was mainly down to the printing press and a militant group of people that grew. The French revolution was because of the massive French involvement in the American revolution. That and the French Aristocracy didnt want to pay taxed to help cover the costs
Pombal was great for Portugal, in spite of the huge -and at the very least a bit chauvinistic- stupidity of totally ignoring the education of the king's heiress, Mary, allowing his political enemies in the Church to raise her all by themselves, which led to his extremely predictable downfall, but his legacy accross the Atlantic is... quite muddled. He banished the Jesuits, but the new educational system was ill funded. He outlawed the natives from speaking any language other than Portuguese, which led to the death of uncountable languages and further aculturation of more urbanized native nations. To restore Lisbon after the earthquake, Pombal and the following queen Mary I not only rose the taxes to extratospheric levels (at the exact point in time in which Portugal was draining the last of Brazilian easy to mine gold reserves, so it would become more and more difficult to pay said taxes every year). And, ultimately, he and later on queen Mary either literally or effectively outlawed all forms of industry, high end craftsmanship, higher education and press in Brazil, hoping the colony would buy all that from Portugal and help pay for the reconstruction. But, with all the taxes, there was no money for that, so the colonists got poorer and less educated, practically smothering Brazilian culture for decades. They also ordered the repatriation of all forms of artists from Brazil. So, most of the complaints Brazilians still hold against Portugal -and which present day Portuguese tend to feel weirdly defensive about - don't reeeeally date back to the entire colonial process, but to the policies of the Marquis of Pombal and the parts of it that Mary I kept going.
Portuguese Inquisition and Crimes in Asia are well known. The Portuguese destroyed all the Buddhist Temples in Portuguese occupied Ceylon and threw Buddhist monks into Rivers to feed the croquediles.This is given in the History Books written by Portuguese Historians.
Edison, you mention "the complaints the Brazilians still hold against Portugal". What is that about? Modern Portugal is completely different from the absolutist and backward-minded monarchy that existed almost 3 centuries ago. Why the grudge against a modern country and a people that was also affected by stupid policies of the time. You have had 200 years of independence and it seems your country is still full of "daddy" issues. FYI, I love Brazil.
@@LynxLuso I agree. Our nation is still hated by most Brazilians to this day, they are probably the country that hates us the most. On the bright side we are European and loved here, so in my personal opinion, who gives a damn about what Americans think.
Hm... I thought the complaints were mostly about that fabled gold from Brazil (which doesn't amount to much by today's standards)... Most of the impairments on Brazil's development you've mentioned would later be reverted when the Portuguese Crown moved its HQ to Rio de Janeiro. Of course, that didn't repair the regrettable loss of much of the pre-Columbian culture, but it can be argued the same 'royals' were pivotal in raising Brazil to a modern, sovereign nation.
Quote "And while the elite lived a lavish lifestyle, the ordinary population struggled" unquote. Despite all the changes and improvements throughout human history, greed and selfishness still prevail but one day, that anomaly will be addressed and corrected.
Notice the "small" detail: end of slavery.... in Portugal. In their colonies, where the Portuguese economy was heavily based, it was going well and strong. That's like someone saying that he stopped smoking... in the bathroom.
If you're using the sounds of seagulls screeching as an early warning for impending natural disasters, you could be in a bit of trouble. Don't they do it all the time? It would be worse than the boy who cried "Wolf"!
I thinking you should ad to this Documentary the fact Masques de Pombal also kicked "The Jesuits catholic order" witch was dominating the education in Iberia Peninsula and they was against Sciences, This religious people said the Lisbon Earthquake was a punishment from the GOD and should abandoned Lisbon.
She wasn't entirely wrong. Most of Europe was still absolute monarchies. England and the Dutch republic were the exception not the rule. And England's monarchy too was still heavy handed from time to time--see Henry VIII, Queen Mary, etc. even after the Magna Carta. The Dutch really won their independence.
If the Great Lisbon Earthquake was responsible for accelerating the French Revolution, then it also accelerated the destruction of Portugal 🇵🇹 yet again with the Napoleonic Invasions of the Peninsular War. Without the French Revolution, Napoleon would never have become Emperor, would never have invaded Portugal, and the Portuguese royal family would never have fled to Btazil.
The Portuguese royal family had been entertaining the idea of moving to Brazil since the 1600s. After the earthquake, they actually started making plans to transfer the capital to Brazil. They were going to build a new city inland (just like Brasília), but then Napoleon came knocking at the door, conquering Spain... so the king had to wing it and go to Rio.
Silly writers. Once again you forgot to mention the huge role that the slave trade had in the accumulation of wealth by the Portuguese. I’m sure forgetting this point right between the gold and sugar was purely accidental. It’s convenient to assume enlightenment led to the end of slavery, but the impression of “God’s punishment” was probably more powerful since it was banned 6 years later.
@@patgilmore2187 It's not viewing things through a "racist lens" but more revisionism of unpalatable, self-indicting part of history. It requires a certain level of self-awareness to face history with a bold, objective, scrupulously honest eye and show how much positive evolution has occurred since.
The Portuguese Inquisition in Goa, Ceylon and the rest of Portuguese occupied Asia was a crime against humanity. Portugal, Pope and the European Union (EU) must account for these Crimes against Humanity in Sri Lanka. That is the right thing to do. UNHRC, if it is a credible HR institution must provide the venue to discuss Reparations for Sri Lanka from its former European Colonial masters like the Portuguese, Dutch and British.
@@senakaweeraratna741 😂then european ask reparation from muslim states for invading pillaging europe for centuries until the european return the karma to them
This does seem awkwardly similar to the myth that hurricanes follow the path of slave ships. As well the myth also says that tornadoes follow the path of the plantations. As well it is said that hurricanes don’t happen in Africa but start in West Africa and go towards the Americas. Again this isn’t a fact but it makes some wonder.
Interesting, but I fail to see how it started the end of the slave trade. Britain (closest allies with Portugal) said they have to abolish the slave trade, which was a risk as Britain needed Portugal as an allie during the war with France. Portugal accepted and abolished the slave trade, but following Britain.
In 1761 Portugal became the first country to abolish slavery , Portugal was the first country with no slaves in Europe . Portugal didn't have the power to abolish the slave trade worldwide , it abolished it in Portugal itself , the slave trade went on including in some of the Portuguese colonies and done by traders from Portugal , UK , other European countries , Arabs and everybody else. The UK abolished the slave trade in 1807 and the slavery in it's colonies in 1834 , in the UK territory in Europe there was slaves until 1800.
Metropolitan Portugal abolished slavery in 1761 but it was allowed in the colonies long after that, that's when Britain asked Portugal to end slavery there (metropolitan Portugal was the European part of the country)
SO, if there was no earthquake in Lisbon, the slavery might not easy to stop easily in all the world. Thus, the entitle of "God punishment" for the bad actions could be considered in this case. But not all natural hazards can be explained by "God punishment". Jesus also said do not think the persons who died in a collapse accident were more sins than you.
Well, I guess nature is God. Studying nature you get to know the nature of god. Not the anthromorphic gods of papyrus rolls. Our biggest problem is that we think "our nature, as humans" is somehow different from the rest of nature. As if we are above it, special. Real narcissist thinking.
Achei muito legal. Por causa desse terremoto, o Marques de Pombal, aumentou a derrama (impostos) no Brasil para 20% (quinto dos infernos) e nós passamos a esconder o ouro dentro das estátuas dos santos (santo do pau oco), daí a inconfidência mineira e resto é História do Brasil.
And it had to happen in Portugal ! If it weren't for this earthquake, Portugal would still be a world power...dark day for all Portuguese (as me). And the biggest beneficiary was its biggest ally (since 1439): England!
Why would you be praising colonialism? The only people who would actually benefit from Portugal being a “global power” are the exploiters, such as slave owners. There’s nothing nostalgic about it, it’s just gross
We can not change the past and we can't rewrite it. The "Political Correctness" was created to not hurt Stalin in the middle of XX century and do you not agree with it? What was "normal or traditional" in the past doesn't mean that is correct today! Think what you want think but I was born in Mozambique and I lived in both: fascist colonialism and oppressive ! communism.
@@anhemapping2282 you do know that if it hadnt happen we would have been much stronger plus napoleon wouldnt be a thing, either way the fall of the empire was when we become part of spain for a few years.
Enlightenment had already started before Lisbon's Earthquake, hence the reaction of Pombal, looking for measurement of the phenomenon as a first step for a scientific explanation (which will come a century later). The major contribution was Voltaire's, who questioned the very idea of God's will (hence of God's existence), seeing no reason for a divinity to punish a whole city. An important missing part in the video is the auto-da-fe : the burning of heretics after the earthquake as an expiation of Lisbon's sin, and as a religious explanation of the Earthquake. Removing God's will, Voltaire could point out how arbitrary and misleading the monarchic power based on religion was in dealing with natural events and in managing society, killing innocents to sustain its tale. This gave the ideological frame to contest monarchies and rebuild societies on the ideal of free citizens, whatever their religion.
Tbf she tried and failed. For one(this is the easiest for me to point out) she said that she THINKS that it accelerated the American independence from Britain. Imo a documentary like this should be hard facts not "I think".
I did this for a school project on a natural history event, & most people ridiculed me because it was so obscure. I got full marks because it stood out, & was a significant event!😊❤❤
Congratulations and felicitations on your school project and punctuation.
I'm doing a presentation on it, it is referred to in Revelation 18!
Seismic victory!
Obscure for other countries, lol. Everyone knows it here.
epic!
For anyone who enjoys video games, there's a sequence in the historical fiction game 'Assassin's Creed Rogue' that depicts this tragedy. The game is set during the Seven Years War in the mid-to-late 18th century. You visit Lisbon, specifically the Convento da Ordem do Carmo, to steal a relic from beneath the church. In the game lore, it's your character lifting the relic that triggers the quake, which you must escape as the building and city streets collapse around you. It's honestly one of the most jaw dropping moments I've had while gaming, and it inspired me to learn more about the actual event. I highly recommend it.
Love Assassin's Creed
To steal a relic from the Church*
So it was the assassin Shay Patrick Cormac who was responsible for the Lisbon Earthquake, which then turned into a templar ; )
That’s what just brought me here 🥳
U learned it there huh buddy
The earthquake that changed Shay Patrick Cormac life
Indeed it did…
Yes indeed
Yo lol
Turned him into the Templar he is… was back then.
@@Turnip397Is…is this a Diablo reference?!? /edit nm, googled Shay Cormac.
This is crazy, because portugal was the most advanced country of europe, and would still be but this earthquake changed everything
The most scary thing about this earthquake and some shocks from the earthquake were felt throughout Europe as far as Finland and in North Africa, and according to some sources even in Greenland and the Caribbean
No, that had to be a coincidence. The seismic waves would have been stopped at the Mid-Atlantic Trench.
This earthquake also got Portuguese music stuck in the past.
As the rest of Europe embraced opera and musical thematic experimentation, Portugal, having all the theaters of Lisbom destroyed and losing most of its more daring musicians, turned its back to more modern music and focused all subsides in old fashioned religious choirs.
That's why Portugal (and, by extention Brazil and the other Portuguese colonies) totally missed on the golden age of opera and the early popularization of classical music that followed.
surely as everything it have had their sweet and sour... brazil has been also the birthplace of beatifull new kind of music and rythms, many of them mixes of local, european, and african slaves roots you cannot find anywere else... I am thinking in bossa nova, batucadas, the music from capoeira... probably are much more recent, but surely they would have been take longer to rise if they were doing at the beginning the same as everyone else.
Ohh thats interesting. Nostalgia Induced regress is responsible for many social problems in India , never thought it would affect the arts too.
Well, that's good for old fashioned religious choir music, unless we are supposed to believe that something should go extinct merely because it's "old fashioned."
Portugal is remembered in Goa and Ceylon for introducing ' Baila' music. This is a mixture of Creole and African music with Portuguese overtones. It is a popular type of music that drives people to dance.
Bullshit.
Even if Lisbon is very beautiful and well design today, it would be a dream to just walk on that old Lisbon with all its history
A great tragedy of this event was that the historical archives that documented the Portuguese age of discovery were destroyed and lost to the world.
A great, great loss indeed. One wonders what secrets did those documents hold...
Its hit or miss, the current National Archives are built different, I believe anything short of a direct nuclear attack will make them remain intact. There are documents that appered through the ages, for example, the age of discovery is mostly explained by the works of Zurrara, however in the XIX it was found the Chronicle of Guiné which is the principal source on Henry the navigator and Unfortunatly the book is in France, because it was taken from Portugal after the disastrous Convention of Sintra, which allow the French to exit Portugal with their loot in 1808. It wasnt just the earthquake.
I have heard of this earthquake before, but I never realised that it had such profound and far-reaching effects. Very interesting stuff.
Anyone here after today's earthquake?
Glad i’m not the only one hahahaha
Me too
The impact in the world was huge...
On a more mundane note, Pombal was responsible for rebuilding the streets in more of a military design. That is why Lisbon has mostly straight streets unlike other old cities like Sevilla. Also, the king was to afraid to go back into his palace and spent the rest of his life in a royal tent.
well yeah at least the down town area...
Interesting fact: Maria Atoinetta was born the day after this earthquake.
I lived thru the christchurch earthquakes of 2010/2011, so I think I've had enough for a lifetime, thanks
I saw videos of those earthquakes. Terrifying.
@@grioulaloula8594 ngl i still have nightmares. I was also present for the terror attacks too, not good stuff.
Loma Prieta 1989, yeah…I was 5 miles crows flight from that earthquake. I earned my badge.
@@sophronielforgot that even happened, used to have aftershocks for years after
And the white volcano like Tonga one
We have 7.3 earthquake recently here in the Philippines. Its strong enough to crack the roads. Im glad that there is no tsunami
BongBong will protect the Filipino people.🙄
I heard of that, I hope you are ok. Nothing scarier than running to the hills in the middle of the night (from my own experience)
🙏🙏🏼
yea
It was far too inland
I'm astonished how such an event changed European history, and the comments are leaving me even more impressed.
I'm doing a presentation on it, it is referred to in Revelation 18!
At school we learn alot about the earthquake, Pombal and the reconstruction but we where never told this was the beginning of moder seismology or that he did the inquires.
It was nice to learn that!
Really? That's because you didn't study your lesson well.
You learn that in History and Science's class
@@nacht98 its not actually about studying your lesson well , yall seem Portuguese , u for real remember every little detail u learned in Portugal History? ofc u dont , its so extensive that probably only the middle east and one or two European country's have a bigger history then Portugal, they do teach the basic concept of the inovations that Pombal made , but the details like inquires for sure slip thru my mind with time even if they were taught in school
In Portugal they only talk about the Lisbon Earthquake. But they never teach how big the earthquake was. It was one of the biggest ever, probably the biggest ever. One of the things that lead us to assume it was just a simple earthquack, is the name. Lisbon Earthquack. We assume it was only in Lisbon. No. It was a massive earthquack felt in Europe, Africa, Asia and even America. The tsunami and the quack killed and destroid so many towns all over the place. It's called Lisbon just because it destroyed to the ground almost all Lisbon, and at the time Lisbon was one of the biggest cities in the world and probably the richest city in the world. It stand out. But the havoc was almost global. And the aftermath changed everything
@@almahperditae they don't? Really? Big news to me!
Thanks for talking about Portugal
When asked what to do, the Marques de Pombal, answered:"Take care of the survivors and bury the decease d ones". That's the phrase that defined him at the time.
we have to analyze the mentality of the people from that time, which God and religious was playing a big role on peoples lives, so this made them questioning God and also the Earthquake destroyed churches and sparing brothels made them questioning even more.
little did they know, Shay actually started the earthquale
Very interesting brief history about the devastating earthquake in Lisbon in the 18th century. I’m from California where I went through 2 pretty bad earthquakes during my time there and now I live in Lisbon. I’m going to go see that show it looks really good.
i had legit not heard of this till about a week ago....in part because i went down the rabbit hole on tornados...mother nature dont mess around...
Wish i had such power
When walking the Camino de Santiago, along Northern Spain, there were towns affected by this Earthquake, hundreds of miles away from Lisbon even church towers were collapsing in Northern Spain.
Thank you for this information, I live in Indonesia nearly every day we had an earthquacke because my country lying in the ring of fire.
Thanks, Shay.
Or we can thank Achilles
Literally just listened to this on history daily podcast while at work yesterday lol.
Fun fact during that day when the earthquake started Marie Antoinette was born
Gotta give credit to the Portugese scientists who started this
When visiting Lisbon I went to the Lisboa Story Center, they had a movie about how it happened
Portugal wasn't wealthy because of the colonies, Portugal colonies are just a consequences of it's growth. People like to add conclusions, we have to not let them pass, the conclusion is a non sequitur.
How interesting, to safely experience an earthquake. I would like to try that out.
Well, its not an earthquake, only a simulation. Maybe they should call such a simulation as earthquack 🤔
@@joeharry32817 Yes, I should have said that but I felt it was certainly implied.
I experienced the 7.8-magnitude 1906 San Francisco earthquake in a museum there, they has a "shaker table" platform that held about eight people standing up. You climbed up onto it and they "replayed" the earthquake, the actual length and magnitude of shaking of that infamous deadly quake. They had constructed a surround that covered three sides with photographs that showed what the city looked like back then, to make it feel even more realistic.
I was born and raised in the Southern California suburbs and have vivid memories of the Sylmar earthquake, a 6.6-magnitude event in 1971 that caused tremendous damage and loss of life. This was the quake that began the era of retrofitting buildings and anchoring heavy and high furniture to walls to save lives.
I was 8 years old, eating breakfast with my mom and brother in the kitchen when the quake began. My mother insisted standing in a doorway was the safest place, so the three of us held onto the door jams of our kitchen back door and marveled at the giant waves the earthquake created in our backyard in-ground swimming pool. The quake only lasted about 60 seconds, but when it stopped, more than half the water in the pool - something like 10,000 gallons - was just GONE, all sloshed out into the neighbors' yards.
We lived about 45 miles southeast of the epicenter and were lucky our home was not damaged. Some of the concrete sidewalks around the pool had small cracks, but surprisingly, the pool had no damage at all; no cracks in the gunite or even the surface plaster. I recall it took about 24 hours for two or three garden hoses running full force to refill the pool. The neighbors were very irate that the chlorinated water killed their fancy-schmancy dichondra lawn...as if we did it on purpose :-) Oh, SoCal in the 70s, what a great time to live there!
I escaped the smog, traffic and high cost of living in 1983, moving to the Colorado River where Arizona, Nevada and California meet. I have never regretted leaving, mostly because it's only a 4-hour drive to experience the ocean, museums, and cultural opportunities there. I live a block from the beautiful River in an affordable community where most peoples' "daily commute" takes 15 minutes max. And we don't have earthquakes here (so far).
The earthquake happened at 1 November, Feast of All Saints. It is not told on this video, but this coincidence enforced the phylosofical problem of evil, that is the question of how to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God. In other words: God exists ? If yes, which God?
The video does state that the earthquake occurred on All Saints' day, 1755.
Lisbon was the financial hub of the slave trade. It was prosperous chiefly because of the dealing in slaves. This was a judgment from the Most High God but it affected a great part of the world as well. God never destroys the righteous with the wicked.
Because earth is a school. You agreed to experience the things you experience good and bad before birth. You also chose your family, and they chose you. Part of a cycle of reincarnation.
So just as you experience the good, unfortunately the opposite as well. God is omniscient, omnipotent. He's in you and everything and human being--why quantum entanglement works. Much like the Trinity states--we are all a part of God, just different aspects. Like your hand is part of the same body as is your leg.
Evil is a concept created by humans. In reality evil is part of the concept of the Law of polarity--to understand good, you have to understand evil.
These are lessons learned by our spirit in our human versions in this Simulation. And you chose to learn these lessons before birth.
Admit it. It also gave birth to modern atheism.
Atheism in Europe. Not every part of the world experience this and even if they experience this, the difference of experience and culture will bring different result.
Modern atheism itself born after kratos kill zeus
Maybe in Portugal, and surely it just contributed. The philosophy of Baruch Spinoza could also be mentioned and most important the synthesis of ureum by Friedrich Wöhler. But one can think of dozens of other factors. Why would this earthquake be important if you lived far away in a protestant country?
Maybe they could/should have learned from the Siloam tower incident, since it seems to have brought up similar ideas. Though this may have been ignored on account of other things on people's minds, a lower literacy rate, or a lack of interest. Speculation about causes for disasters was not part of any sort of doctrine in the first place, but only simplistic thinking.
The credit for founding Atheism must go to the Buddha. When everyone else in the world both in the East and the West was leaning on a supramundane power ( there are thousands of Gods and belief systems) the Buddha taught boldly and daringly to rely on yourself and not on an external saviour to escape from suffering. This is the major challenge to everyone in this world. Both Monotheism (Christianity, Islam, Judaism rely on the same God and say prayers seeking help) and Polytheism ( e.g. Hinduism, a Polytheistic belief systems with thousands of Gods) are God fearing systems.
Buddhism stands alone in this respect, advocating self- reliance and right action for your liberation from the coils of suffering.
The Buddha did not wait for Natural Disasters like the Great Fire of Lisbon (1755) to proclaim that there was no loving God but from his own penetrating insights he discovered the uncompromising reality. Atheism originated from the wisdom of the Buddha. He was the first Sage in the world to declare that there was no external saviour and one must rely on one's own efforts for one's salvation.
The Buddha discovered the reality of a Godless world ( now known as Atheism and subscribed to by the vast majority of people in Christian Heritage countries in Europe) 2, 600 years ago. The most profound words ever in world history were proclaimed by the Buddha when he unhesitatingly declared that ' There is no God'. Today as Europe marches into perhaps the darkest and coldest Winter since the end of WW2, not much options are left for the residents of the European continent. Pray or accept the reality of Karma in action which rest of the world has lived with in stoic silence since recorded time began.
Portugal: Father of Brazil
Humility 🥺🥺🥺
Is there any fool like me who just thought of the assassins creed rogue earthquake
😂😂😂😂😂
It does not seem like modern age and thinking has learned anything from this tragedy and catastrophe. Seems to be the opposite.
Why do you say that?
Cities are much more safer today and houses... Well, they are like night and day difference with much more robust building and we have upped our game a lot in terms of emergency rescue, relief and all the support needed after a crisis situation like this.
And the alert systems.... Well, those didn't even existed back then so I would say we learned a lot!
@@TheAllMightyGodofCod In the US, looking at how so many people responded to the Covid pandemic....rejecting science, attacking scientists, taking horse de-worming meds, and then dying, but not before making sure that lots of other people died as well....it did feel like a combination of the worst of religious nonsense with the worst of peasant stupidity.
This is a small piece of the origins of science, democracy, and liberalism -- in short, the start of the culture wars. For more thorough coverage, I recommend the book "The Dawn of Everything" by Graeber and Wengrow. In reality, it started with debates between missionaries and the indigenous people of the Americas over the topic of "freedom." What's described in this video was yet another domino to fall behind it.
I highly recommend the book alongside this short video. More people need to understand the true nature of the culture wars and what fundamentally underlies conservative thought. There's a reason the world is sliding back into authoritarianism, and it has a lot to do with the authoritarian religion from which most of our culture sprang.
Supossedly. There are many factors that influence this. Just claiming that the truth is that it started with, whatever such and such claims it to be, is wildly inaccurate. No matter how credible the book any claimed starting point is arbitrarily chosen.
If I may ask, whom do you think is more responsible for falling back into an authoritarian world? Would you say it's more conservative thoughts or the progressive thoughts that are sending us that way? As I understand, conservatives want smaller government and more freedom....but what is wild is when you look at most leftist who claim to want freedom as well, well they clearly vote for bigger government and control...under the viel of socialism/ communism.
@@chancefluke7833 what really is wild is that the right wants less regulation. But supports authocrism. Something which will result in a complete pack of freedom.
@@chancefluke7833 OK, Smaller Govts means LESS for the Community. It allows for Big Corporations to rule. Less taxes that the Conservatives want to pay means less services for YOU. Why do Conservatives hate Healthcare for all? Why do they Hate Free Education for all? Why do they want a Govt that is only chosen by them? Plus
@@chancefluke7833 I wouldn't describe "leftist" thought in those terms. Progressivism seeks to use government for the good of all people and their economy-based systems. Government is a great invention ... a social contract ... that can advance societies to more and more freedoms and enlightenment when formed for the common good, not just the powerful. Bigger government needs to mean better government. I don't think anyone wants to be "controlled" by government. Finally, social programs in a democracy are not equivalent to communism ... and pure communism is not equivalent to dictatorships, which are the most extreme example of big "government".
Voltaire: "Sufficient Reason" from Candide. Twenty Cups of Coffee a day? When did Voltaire sleep.
The European enlightenment had already started by the time of the Portuguese earthquake , at the time when printing, science and general widening of education, from the upper classes to the lower and middle classes. It is allways the case that invention, science and the march of progress follows major human tragedies, such as a tsunami, plague and war. Look at the technological and cultural advances from the end of the 2 world wars, that form all parts of our world today for our most recent example.
Very interesting and informative. Thanks.
November 1 1755 was the birthdate of seismology. 232 years later... ...
Just telling us no one is Above Him.
One person who acknowledges God. One. At least this lifted my grieving soul. To hear that people "woke up" by starting the modern age and the road to enlightenment just kicked me in the gut.
Who the f@ck is Him ?
"God had nothing to do with this"
--Shay Cormac during 1755
Shame on her for saying thanks to colonial empire ,by taking bread from farmers and looting riches ,is thankful for her?
Exactly
Thanks to literally just means because of, it doesn't have to mean she's thankfully for it at all? Thanks to the earthquake, much of the city was destroyed is wildly different than saying I'm thankful the earthquake destroyed the city lol
The chain of events started by that earthquake also changed the language spoken in Brazil. Up to the earthquake, the most adopted language in Brazil was Nheengatu, a lingua franca made up of indigenous Brazilian languages and promoted by Jesuit missionaries. When Marquis of Pombal consolidated his power after his widely popular reconstruction of Lisbon, he decided that the language used in the colony of Brazil should be Portuguese, and Nheengatu was forbidden.
Quite unfortunate. Portuguese is such an ugly sounding language.
@@JCO2002 like your name
I am Brazilian and i never heard about this story or language you are talking about. Only the jesuit missionaries would speak indigenous languages, not the average populace. If you were right, we would have studied such literary records at school and we didnt
@@cz2301 You should study more. Nowadays knowledge is so accessible with a Web search engine such as Google! To know pieces of evidence for this conclusion by historians and to understand the Portuguese crown's rationale at that time, take a look at the four first texts that appear when you look up
Nheengatu Pombal
@@cz2301 unfortunately schools have their syllabus highly edited to fit some historical points of view: as example think of the south american countries independence rush, were all comes together as a movement... schools will surely focus in how this astonishing mens fight to free their nations from the european control, but they never told you the other side, that they almost always rich families descendent loyal of the traditional monarquies fighting for keep america out of the hands of Napoleón which was conquering Europe at the same time. Both sides are true by the way, but commonly they only teach what better suit your nation identity. With this, is always good to seek for new sources when new information is shown to validate is veracity, just because your previous sources don't teach that doesn't inmediately make them false... specially is it from school, just think of how much importance have money in our lifes and current capitalist world, and think How much about money did you learn in school? Did they teach you how to negotiate a loan? How compound interest work? Which provitions you have monthly pay if you become an entrepreneur? How you pay taxes?... I can continue for an hour.
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Thanks appreciate it
Fun fact: shay patrick cormac was the only known man who Survived this destructible earthquake.
Extremely interesting!
Had to be shay😑
It's such an enlightening video yes it is but so generally approached. This could have been more narrowly tackled.
It depends if you want to tell some of the backstory of seismology or how liberal ideology (with its science, democracy, and egalitarian ideals) took shape. If the latter, then it cut way too much out. This was but one domino to fall in a series that started with debates about "freedom" with the indigenous people of the Americas. I strongly suggest reading "The Dawn of Everything" by Graeber and Wengrow to put this video into context.
When you see it’s a 7 minute video, but have no common sense
I think humanity needs another wake up
@@DavidSilva0803 where next
Look at our climate change. We're in the middle of one.
Volatile as certainty moved by the Lisbon earthquake. And he was instrumental in the enlightenment and therefore the French Revolution.
So to say it was the Lisbon earthquake was the start of the modern age has merit.
Very, very interesting.
And now humanity is in serious need of a new enlightenment. Science needs even more power in society. Without it in power, its more than clear now that we're are doomed.
@MythTruster what i stated wasn't an elevation to "god" in any sort. what do you mean by better jobs and life standards? i don't know a single scientist that fits in that description, in fact, their condition is as poor and precarious as more common jobs. they don't feel their worker is recognised at all. The same happens with farmers, who are too a fundamental building block of society. What's on the table is that science achievements have, without doubt, built society as we know it today. just imagine a life without electricity, systems of refrigeration, planes or cars, forget supermarkets as you know them as you would have access only to local food, cell phones, the internet, health care, etc. So yeah, when you ask me "Why do you ppl who study science are better in any way?" I would say that science fruits, technology, is what make us different than more "primitive" civilisations. And to reach a point that a civilisation arises, technology (therefore science of some level) must have been reached. I was just stating that I believe that we should evolve further, further towards a more sustainable future, working with nature instead of against it (search for ernst gotsch's syntropic agriculture) and to achieve that we really need science to be allowed to speak without constraints (and we don't have much time left), we as humanity have been put chains by politics. Science could have taken us a lot further and to a better world if politics weren't holding hands with economists as we know them today. What you've described as science faults were in fact consequences fed by the economical system that we live in, an economical system that deviates technology to explore profit. that has its consequences, consequences such as: you being a product to social media, chemist developing the products that they are PAID to develop even tho they end up being harmful in the long run, etc. They have jobs that grant them survival, they are as chained as any other worker. They are often not free to choose what they want to make investigation about. Scientists are dependent on funds that often are paid by companies who have interests in developing a certain product, and these companies, having an economical model of reality don't care if their product will harm nature at all. I was stating that politics should be trusting scientists instead as science would shape the world in the opposite direction of exploitation. that's our world, a world where economists are in power.
@MythTruster from my experience and with all respect, religion is psychological violence/castration. I've been educated by jeovah witnesses and i remember believing what you say that you now believe. I thought they were the purest of the humans. Studying, simply by studying science it became obvious to me that it's just a scam. They don't ask for people's money directly, but at their "church" there is obviously a box over there for people to leave their money their freely. The superiors say that by leaving their money there they would be allowed to print more bibles, more magazines and rent auditoriums or even NATIONAL STADIUMS for their religious big events. People that work for the management of the events, the writing and drawings of the maganizes, the development of their animated videos or management of their website aren't paid for doing it, they are doing it freely because they are doing it for "god". So where do you think that all the money given by the believers goes? Only a small percentage is invested in the rents and the printings. Its brainwash, manipulation for profit, its capitalism, the current economical model. And unfortunately the believers, blind, are not incentivated to become educated (as it would be a threat to the church’s power), they are only incentivated to dedicate themselves to god. I’ve been there. It was a dark cave. Later I came the conclusion that this is how religion in general works, and in the opposite extreme is scientific freedom, where god creation is really revealed. Also, everything religious people say that a scientist says about nature is heavily distorted towards their own interests: to justify god and therefore to silence their threats. You cannot understand a scientist argument without mathematics. All their arguments have a mathematical origin. Everytime you see a scientific explanation or defense (as I am defending), its origin is mathematical. What happens is that one need to convert the mathematics into words to people that don't know the mathematics. The only way to a real understanding of the explanations is to see the mathematics by yourself because any attempt to translate the mathematics into words will distort the information because words are ambiguous. Unfortunately when religious people say that science offends "god" they loose completely the point. The absence of god in all scientific explanations doesn't mean that scientists aren't open for the idea of a god. You have scientists that believe in god and scientists that don't. And that belief is independent of their work, maybe /probably influenced by their understanding of nature but not a single one of them as proven the existence of god mathematically. It just means that, until now, all the things they have figured out about reality, such as the movement of astronomical objects, evolution etc. they have found precise explanations that don't need god at all. God simply hasn't appeared in science, it isn't needed to explain the rainbow, comets or any other phenomena that religion came in the past and upon a glance just said "oh its god". No, science dwelves in the phenomena, it investigates it deeply with no fear or restraints in questioning reality and it uses the only tool we have capable og dissecating its secrets, mathematics. From all the knowledge that scientists have gathered, Einstein influenced by the philosopher Spinoza and earlier others like Giordano Bruno or Galileo, understood that if god exists it is much much bigger than what religion makes of it. Einstein's god is nature itself, "he" reveals himself through mathematical laws, not through the bible. Mathematical truth unlike any other "truth" is unquestionable. The bible, on the other hand, is cleary questionable by its nature (buit/written with words which are by their own nature subject of different intrepretations), that’s why there are several religions based on the bible or other book, because every single one has its interpretation. On the other hand, science not being built by words but by numbers and logical reasoning (which also has its laws alike mathematical laws) is why you don’t why you don’t get 2 or more sciences out there in the world. Studying logic would early allow you to reach that conclusion. Religion doesn't dwelve in nature, it doesn't care about mathematical beauty, and mathematics is the language of the universe. Its because of having mathematics as a tool and not the bible that scientists managed to understand the world so well that they released the knowledge for mechanical, electrical and other engineers to use their findings to build societies infrastructures. If religion really understood nature it would find itself being able to manipulate it at the atomic scale. Scientists know reality so clearly that they see through the invisible, you can suspect that they are into something. Reality gives you two options, either to study science which is interested in reality in its cruest form independently on one's beliefs and be guided by mathematical rigour, or to be lost in a word of words to understand the world. And words are ambiguous so that won't work. In fact it will create wars. That is also why religions clash among each other too.
@MythTruster hi i haven't deleted the comment, its still here...
@MythTruster what? really?? does that happen? which guys? where are you from?
@MythTruster @MythTruster from my experience and with all respect, religion is psychological violence/castration. I've been educated by jeovah witnesses and i remember believing what you say that you now believe. I thought they were the purest of the humans. Studying, simply by studying science it became obvious to me that it's just a scam. They don't ask for people's money directly, but at their "church" there is obviously a box over there for people to leave their money their freely. The superiors say that by leaving their money there they would be allowed to print more bibles, more magazines and rent auditoriums or even NATIONAL STADIUMS for their religious big events. People that work for the management of the events, the writing and drawings of the maganizes, the development of their animated videos or management of their website aren't paid for doing it, they are doing it freely because they are doing it for "god". So where do you think that all the money given by the believers goes? Only a small percentage is invested in the rents and the printings. Its brainwash, manipulation for profit, its capitalism, the current economical model. And unfortunately the believers, blind, are not incentivated to become educated (as it would be a threat to the church’s power), they are only incentivated to dedicate themselves to god. I’ve been there. It was a dark cave. Later I came the conclusion that this is how religion in general works, and in the opposite extreme is scientific freedom, where god creation is really revealed. Also, everything religious people say that a scientist says about nature is heavily distorted towards their own interests: to justify god and therefore to silence their threats. You cannot understand a scientist argument without mathematics. All their arguments have a mathematical origin. Everytime you see a scientific explanation or defense (as I am defending), its origin is mathematical. What happens is that one need to convert the mathematics into words to people that don't know the mathematics. The only way to a real understanding of the explanations is to see the mathematics by yourself because any attempt to translate the mathematics into words will distort the information because words are ambiguous. Unfortunately when religious people say that science offends "god" they loose completely the point. The absence of god in all scientific explanations doesn't mean that scientists aren't open for the idea of a god. You have scientists that believe in god and scientists that don't. And that belief is independent of their work, maybe /probably influenced by their understanding of nature but not a single one of them as proven the existence of god mathematically. It just means that, until now, all the things they have figured out about reality, such as the movement of astronomical objects, evolution etc. they have found precise explanations that don't need god at all. God simply hasn't appeared in science, it isn't needed to explain the rainbow, comets or any other phenomena that religion came in the past and upon a glance just said "oh its god". No, science dwelves in the phenomena, it investigates it deeply with no fear or restraints in questioning reality and it uses the only tool we have capable og dissecating its secrets, mathematics. From all the knowledge that scientists have gathered, Einstein influenced by the philosopher Spinoza and earlier others like Giordano Bruno or Galileo, understood that if god exists it is much much bigger than what religion makes of it. Einstein's god is nature itself, "he" reveals himself through mathematical laws, not through the bible. Mathematical truth unlike any other "truth" is unquestionable. The bible, on the other hand, is cleary questionable by its nature (buit/written with words which are by their own nature subject of different intrepretations), that’s why there are several religions based on the bible or other book, because every single one has its interpretation. On the other hand, science not being built by words but by numbers and logical reasoning (which also has its laws alike mathematical laws) is why you don’t why you don’t get 2 or more sciences out there in the world. Studying logic would early allow you to reach that conclusion. Religion doesn't dwelve in nature, it doesn't care about mathematical beauty, and mathematics is the language of the universe. Its because of having mathematics as a tool and not the bible that scientists managed to understand the world so well that they released the knowledge for mechanical, electrical and other engineers to use their findings to build societies infrastructures. If religion really understood nature it would find itself being able to manipulate it at the atomic scale. Scientists know reality so clearly that they see through the invisible, you can suspect that they are into something. Reality gives you two options, either to study science which is interested in reality in its cruest form independently on one's beliefs and be guided by mathematical rigour, or to be lost in a word of words to understand the world. And words are ambiguous so that won't work. In fact it will create wars. That is also why religions clash among each other too.
All Saints Day is NOT like any other day, people were not on their way to church, it hit at 9:40am, people were already at church
I like how the people are sitting there normally in the church
Those churches and cathedrals are huge and tall. I actually don't think the simulation in the video does them justice.
The day it happened churches were supposedly filled for mass. One can just imagine those tall stone ceilings and chandeliers coming down, and perhaps walls or columns.
Ah Shay what have you done?
Very interesting 👌
Ilked that bit at the end about revolutions. The American revolution was mainly down to the printing press and a militant group of people that grew. The French revolution was because of the massive French involvement in the American revolution. That and the French Aristocracy didnt want to pay taxed to help cover the costs
5 meters high? It was higher than that by close to double.
Most of the churches were distroyed, but not the street of brothels. This too changed History.
Pombal was great for Portugal, in spite of the huge -and at the very least a bit chauvinistic- stupidity of totally ignoring the education of the king's heiress, Mary, allowing his political enemies in the Church to raise her all by themselves, which led to his extremely predictable downfall, but his legacy accross the Atlantic is... quite muddled.
He banished the Jesuits, but the new educational system was ill funded.
He outlawed the natives from speaking any language other than Portuguese, which led to the death of uncountable languages and further aculturation of more urbanized native nations.
To restore Lisbon after the earthquake, Pombal and the following queen Mary I not only rose the taxes to extratospheric levels (at the exact point in time in which Portugal was draining the last of Brazilian easy to mine gold reserves, so it would become more and more difficult to pay said taxes every year).
And, ultimately, he and later on queen Mary either literally or effectively outlawed all forms of industry, high end craftsmanship, higher education and press in Brazil, hoping the colony would buy all that from Portugal and help pay for the reconstruction.
But, with all the taxes, there was no money for that, so the colonists got poorer and less educated, practically smothering Brazilian culture for decades.
They also ordered the repatriation of all forms of artists from Brazil.
So, most of the complaints Brazilians still hold against Portugal -and which present day Portuguese tend to feel weirdly defensive about - don't reeeeally date back to the entire colonial process, but to the policies of the Marquis of Pombal and the parts of it that Mary I kept going.
Portuguese Inquisition and Crimes in Asia are well known. The Portuguese destroyed all the Buddhist Temples in Portuguese occupied Ceylon and threw Buddhist monks into Rivers to feed the croquediles.This is given in the History Books written by Portuguese Historians.
Sempre aldrabão.
Edison, you mention "the complaints the Brazilians still hold against Portugal". What is that about? Modern Portugal is completely different from the absolutist and backward-minded monarchy that existed almost 3 centuries ago. Why the grudge against a modern country and a people that was also affected by stupid policies of the time. You have had 200 years of independence and it seems your country is still full of "daddy" issues. FYI, I love Brazil.
@@LynxLuso I agree. Our nation is still hated by most Brazilians to this day, they are probably the country that hates us the most.
On the bright side we are European and loved here, so in my personal opinion, who gives a damn about what Americans think.
Hm... I thought the complaints were mostly about that fabled gold from Brazil (which doesn't amount to much by today's standards)... Most of the impairments on Brazil's development you've mentioned would later be reverted when the Portuguese Crown moved its HQ to Rio de Janeiro. Of course, that didn't repair the regrettable loss of much of the pre-Columbian culture, but it can be argued the same 'royals' were pivotal in raising Brazil to a modern, sovereign nation.
Low quality content for BBC reel. Seems like a promotional for ms. Echegoyen and her book.
piece of eden is one hell of a apple
Quote "And while the elite lived a lavish lifestyle, the ordinary population struggled" unquote. Despite all the changes and improvements throughout human history, greed and selfishness still prevail but one day, that anomaly will be addressed and corrected.
I was a little shaky, but now I know.
You can change the future but you cannot change history:
Notice the "small" detail: end of slavery.... in Portugal.
In their colonies, where the Portuguese economy was heavily based, it was going well and strong.
That's like someone saying that he stopped smoking... in the bathroom.
They didn't have internet then,things too awhile to happen.
Perhaps the earthquake ended the Portuguese Empire?🙏
no, our empire lasted till 90s when we gave Macau back to China
How & where do people get these ideas from?
Not even Wikipedia manages to be that inaccurate.
@@SylvaHodracyrda ppl will be ppl
If you're using the sounds of seagulls screeching as an early warning for impending natural disasters, you could be in a bit of trouble. Don't they do it all the time? It would be worse than the boy who cried "Wolf"!
I thinking you should ad to this Documentary the fact Masques de Pombal also kicked "The Jesuits catholic order" witch was dominating the education in Iberia Peninsula and they was against Sciences, This religious people said the Lisbon Earthquake was a punishment from the GOD and should abandoned Lisbon.
Ah yes the very earthquake that earned Shay the highest civilian kill count 🥲
People in this video making a helluva lot of assertions without adding any further information as evidence.
Will this happen again next week because of morocco’s earthquake
2:04 "All of Europe were absolute monarchies". Ever heard of Magna Charta? The Dutch republic? Just to mention the most obvious examples...
She wasn't entirely wrong. Most of Europe was still absolute monarchies. England and the Dutch republic were the exception not the rule.
And England's monarchy too was still heavy handed from time to time--see Henry VIII, Queen Mary, etc. even after the Magna Carta.
The Dutch really won their independence.
Incredibile interesting facts about
If the Great Lisbon Earthquake was responsible for accelerating the French Revolution, then it also accelerated the destruction of Portugal 🇵🇹 yet again with the Napoleonic Invasions of the Peninsular War.
Without the French Revolution, Napoleon would never have become Emperor, would never have invaded Portugal, and the Portuguese royal family would never have fled to Btazil.
The Portuguese royal family had been entertaining the idea of moving to Brazil since the 1600s. After the earthquake, they actually started making plans to transfer the capital to Brazil. They were going to build a new city inland (just like Brasília), but then Napoleon came knocking at the door, conquering Spain... so the king had to wing it and go to Rio.
Hey where was u?
Silly writers. Once again you forgot to mention the huge role that the slave trade had in the accumulation of wealth by the Portuguese. I’m sure forgetting this point right between the gold and sugar was purely accidental. It’s convenient to assume enlightenment led to the end of slavery, but the impression of “God’s punishment” was probably more powerful since it was banned 6 years later.
And Everything Will be Viewed Through a Racist Lense....Karl Marx
@@patgilmore2187 It's not viewing things through a "racist lens" but more revisionism of unpalatable, self-indicting part of history. It requires a certain level of self-awareness to face history with a bold, objective, scrupulously honest eye and show how much positive evolution has occurred since.
The Portuguese Inquisition in Goa, Ceylon and the rest of Portuguese occupied Asia was a crime against humanity. Portugal, Pope and the European Union (EU) must account for these Crimes against Humanity in Sri Lanka. That is the right thing to do. UNHRC, if it is a credible HR institution must provide the venue to discuss Reparations for Sri Lanka from its former European Colonial masters like the Portuguese, Dutch and British.
@@senakaweeraratna741 😂then european ask reparation from muslim states for invading pillaging europe for centuries until the european return the karma to them
This does seem awkwardly similar to the myth that hurricanes follow the path of slave ships.
As well the myth also says that tornadoes follow the path of the plantations.
As well it is said that hurricanes don’t happen in Africa but start in West Africa and go towards the Americas.
Again this isn’t a fact but it makes some wonder.
November 1st 1755. The day when most of the philosophers became atheists.
I can call this "The Earth's Wrath".
Any earthquake is the one that changes the world forever....when you are in it.
The Lisbon Earthquake also led to the invention of the internet and the development of Gangnam Style
Nope, the internet was invented by ... Al Gore!
How the hell on earth would a earthquake result in the invention of internet you dumbass.
Interesting, but I fail to see how it started the end of the slave trade.
Britain (closest allies with Portugal) said they have to abolish the slave trade, which was a risk as Britain needed Portugal as an allie during the war with France.
Portugal accepted and abolished the slave trade, but following Britain.
In 1761 Portugal became the first country to abolish slavery , Portugal was the first country with no slaves in Europe .
Portugal didn't have the power to abolish the slave trade worldwide , it abolished it in Portugal itself , the slave trade went on including in some of the Portuguese colonies and done by traders from Portugal , UK , other European countries , Arabs and everybody else.
The UK abolished the slave trade in 1807 and the slavery in it's colonies in 1834 , in the UK territory in Europe there was slaves until 1800.
Give me the dates Some Guy. I always learned Portugal abolished it first.
Metropolitan Portugal abolished slavery in 1761 but it was allowed in the colonies long after that, that's when Britain asked Portugal to end slavery there (metropolitan Portugal was the European part of the country)
@@averygoodsenator5866 the British also abolished slavery by stages not all at once.
Typical English mentality, we were the first, we are the best. Go and learn history before making silly comments.
It was me. I caused it. Sorry. I didn't know it was gonna start a whole earthquake.
Oh, it ended slavery, never mind, you're welcome.
Shay Cormac is that you?
@@Thetanget It me.
SO, if there was no earthquake in Lisbon, the slavery might not easy to stop easily in all the world. Thus, the entitle of "God punishment" for the bad actions could be considered in this case. But not all natural hazards can be explained by "God punishment". Jesus also said do not think the persons who died in a collapse accident were more sins than you.
Well, I guess nature is God. Studying nature you get to know the nature of god. Not the anthromorphic gods of papyrus rolls.
Our biggest problem is that we think "our nature, as humans" is somehow different from the rest of nature. As if we are above it, special. Real narcissist thinking.
The birth of The Age of Reason.
Achei muito legal. Por causa desse terremoto, o Marques de Pombal, aumentou a derrama (impostos) no Brasil para 20% (quinto dos infernos) e nós passamos a esconder o ouro dentro das estátuas dos santos (santo do pau oco), daí a inconfidência mineira e resto é História do Brasil.
Ele também proibiu línguas indígenas de serem faladas pq elas eram usadas como língua franca, se não fosse por isso talvez o tupi seria comum até hoje
comparado com as taxas espanholas que eram de 40% ou mais kkkk ou as britanicas nao eram nada de mais
And it had to happen in Portugal !
If it weren't for this earthquake, Portugal would still be a world power...dark day for all Portuguese (as me).
And the biggest beneficiary was its biggest ally (since 1439): England!
It's possible but not probable.
Why would you be praising colonialism? The only people who would actually benefit from Portugal being a “global power” are the exploiters, such as slave owners. There’s nothing nostalgic about it, it’s just gross
We can not change the past and we can't rewrite it.
The "Political Correctness" was created to not hurt Stalin in the middle of XX century and do you not agree with it?
What was "normal or traditional" in the past doesn't mean that is correct today!
Think what you want think but I was born in Mozambique and I lived in both: fascist colonialism and oppressive ! communism.
Napoleon was the reason for the fall of Spanish and Portuguese empires, not this earthquake tbh.
@@anhemapping2282 you do know that if it hadnt happen we would have been much stronger plus napoleon wouldnt be a thing, either way the fall of the empire was when we become part of spain for a few years.
Against all odds
Here in El Salvador we're forbidden to speak Portuguese in school
why?
Enlightenment had already started before Lisbon's Earthquake, hence the reaction of Pombal, looking for measurement of the phenomenon as a first step for a scientific explanation (which will come a century later).
The major contribution was Voltaire's, who questioned the very idea of God's will (hence of God's existence), seeing no reason for a divinity to punish a whole city.
An important missing part in the video is the auto-da-fe : the burning of heretics after the earthquake as an expiation of Lisbon's sin, and as a religious explanation of the Earthquake. Removing God's will, Voltaire could point out how arbitrary and misleading the monarchic power based on religion was in dealing with natural events and in managing society, killing innocents to sustain its tale.
This gave the ideological frame to contest monarchies and rebuild societies on the ideal of free citizens, whatever their religion.
I doubt that the earthquake prompted the French Revolution; that had occurred in 1689.
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To think all it take is two massive rocks moving under water for 20 are 30 sec u could never be prepared some are tho
These "changed history" videos never explain how the event changed things that had already happened.
Tbf she tried and failed. For one(this is the easiest for me to point out) she said that she THINKS that it accelerated the American independence from Britain. Imo a documentary like this should be hard facts not "I think".
@@KakashHatak3 I have no idea what you're tying say. Are you by chance from the US?
@@petefluffy7420 yeah, it was the quickest and easiest to explain in a UA-cam comment.
@@KakashHatak3 yes, it is very effective way to type much and not be understood, very good I must say; ypaefi
Mad ting
To attribute an entire intellectual movement to a singular event is disingenuous.
Wow when I hear what happened it’s seem like it’s happening right now especially in America