I just finished watching all 7 seasons of the WW. It is without a doubt, the best written show I've ever watched in my 60 years. Yes, I'm late to the party, but so glad I came 20+ years later.
ya,. you should definitely watch The Newsroom. It's also sorkin doing very well at writing. Very similar. And it's genuinely just really good. It's awesome you got to experience a show you liked this much, though. Good for you :)
Bradley Whitford's reaction is just amazing, I believe that for a show to be truly great the actors need genuine love for their co stars, the west wing had that massively
seoul588 I miss TWW every single day (Thank God for Netflix. :) ). I miss John Spencer just as much. That said, they REALLY couldn't have ended the show as well as they did because of John Spencer's very untimely death. The way TPTB (The Powers That Be... the writers, producers, etc.) took Spencer's death and just kinda ran with it on the fly (sort of) still boggles my mind to this day. Did you know, up until Spencer passed away, TPTB were planning on having Santos lose the election? TPTB had originally written the ending in such a way that Vinick (played by the irreplaceable Alan Alda) was going to win the election. Spencer's death changed all of that, and the writers ended up having to do a major rewrite of some future scripts so that the show would end the way it eventually did (everybody knew, going into the first season, that TWW would only run for seven seasons). I read somewhere that the reason TPTB made the change to Santos winning the election was because TPTB didn't want to further depress the viewers by having Santos lose the election AND his friend, Leo, in one fell swoop. RIP, John Spencer. :(
And keep in mind, it's almost always the case when we're than 1 actor or actress from a show is nominated it dilutes the vote so someone else wins. So it was actually more of an accomplishment for him to get it with so many West Wing brilliant people nominated!
It was probably the greatest show I’ve ever seen. I’ve watched The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men and any number of other high quality shows. None of them were as consistently well written, well acted and impactful as WW.
TWW @@toddschneider847 - Wether we uunderstand it or not, we are all involved in poliitics. TWW tried to help make us think before we walk into the voters booth.
RIP John Spencer, just finished season 7 of West Wing after being completely isolated from spoilers the entire run. What an amazing actor, my favorite character on the show.
"Deliciously redundant." What a lovely turn of phrase. It's often said, but it's never truer than when it's said about John Spencer... he was gone far, far too soon. Watching Leo's funeral still makes me cry. One of the great actors of our time.
I just re-watched this video again a couple minutes ago. It never dawned on me up until now how many of John Spencer's fellow actors, both on and off the show, had literal tears of joy in their eyes for their friend and colleague. They were GENUINELY happy that he finally had won an Emmy. That's something you don't see every day in egocentric Hollyweird. I'm just sayin'...
+Jeffrey Zhang "Josh" haha... After watching a lot of the interviews and the Harvard West Wing reunion, it's so clear how Sorkin ended up writing the real Bradley Whitford into Josh.
-Almost finished with watching the entire series, only three episodes left. I'm in tears. The writing is brilliant as are the actors. John Spencer was definitely my favorite. What a class act and a presence unlike any other. Rest in Peace, John.
I met him once at the Helen Hayes awards and got the opportunity to speak with him over a drink. He was one of the kindest and most genuine people I’ve ever met. He died shortly after and I’ve never felt more devastated by a loss of someone I barely knew. He was a national treasure.
As a fan , of his from LA Law and recently view him in The West Wing. I'm in such appreciation Mr. Spencer the man and the actor. May you continue shine upon us who adore your work.
One of the most adroitly written, brilliantly acted TV series of all time. Would that we be governed real-time by such committed patriots. John Spencer, thank you. Peace.
The plot line involving Ansley Hayes is one of my favorites. JS was remarkable at portraying what I wish in my heart could be true about our democracy. When Ansley returned for Leo’s funeral was very moving.
Sometimes I think the West Wing was so perfect that it existed only in my mind. That's how much I loved that show. It made me move to DC after college and take a job in the federal government. But its things like this that remind me that it wasn't just in my head. And so many other people loved it, too. And that the show was really as good as we all thought it was. What John says at the end about acting is so poignant and well put. RIP Sir.
Am just watching 'Bartlet for America' and had to come here and rewatch Johnny Spencer winning his Emmy. Such a gracious, worthy winner, and you only have to see how happy his castmates are for him to know he was a good person and a great actor.
This is one of the rare occasions where the phrase "well-deserved" is truly spot-on. The only issue with this Emmy is that it was his first and only one. The reactions of the WW cast members were exceptionally awesome.. make you wanna play it over and over again :)
+Mohammad Elayan I thought so too, especially Bradly W. who kind of slams the ground just to get up! I love this series and I kind of fear that nothing will ever compare to it while I'm still alive
I just watched the scene where Leo explains addiction and how it affects his life to Karen Larsen and as a recovering addict myself it was the most beautiful and accurate representation of our experience that I have ever seen on television.
As thrilled as I am that John won, my favorite part of this was how happy everyone else was for him; Bradley Whitford's reaction was fantastic. Clearly, the love and camaraderie on The West Wing are also true in real life, and that's what makes the show and this cast so great. They really are a family, and that's wonderful.
When John died it felt for me that a family member passed. The writing was so good that I got caught up in really caring about the characters. I miss the show so much.
He completely deserved that award. No performance on the show floors me as often and as hard as John's. He was an amazing actor, but more importantly he was an amazing man. Words cannot express the pain of losing such a talented man. May he rest in peace.
I think that scene in The West Wing when Josh breaks down after Leo dies isn't acting: I think the actors had so much respect for each other that those were legitimate tears Bradley was crying
I totally agree! And that hunting scene when President Bartlet/Martin Sheen, has that far away, grief filled devastated look as a pallbearer. I don't think he had to act it at all
@@lilavodaman I would usually agree with you BUT when a show has been off the air for almost 15 years, I think it's reasonable that folks are discussing all of the show. That said, how lucky you are to be seeing it for the first time! Best show ever in TV history IMHO And if it makes you feel better, we were ALL spoiled! John Spencer died in real life so we all KNEW oh so sadly Leo would meet the same fate. At the time it was well known that the cast was devestated by his loss. Hence a few of us feeling that there were parts of this scene that didn't involve much acting. I adored John Spencer, and I still miss his brilliant acting!
Never get tired of this clip, never get tired of Bradley's face and reaction, and *never* get tired of seeing your comment. True fans appreciate each other. :)
Bradley reaction is so warm, so great, it seems that his team just score at a football game. Wonderfull!! That say what a great guy John Spencer was and Bradley Whitford is.
its so surreal to see in there individual persona's in the characters they portray. bradly (josh) jumping up and being so animated, john (leo) having that smirk and gestures that are so adored in the show. having a heart attack in season 6, his death being played into the script for season 7... its almost easy to forget that it happened in real life while watching the show, the realization adds so much more emotion to the final episodes of the west wing. RIP
Seriously.....4 out of 6 nominated in this category from the West Wing....thats amazing and shows you just how great of a show this was. Is there anyone who deserved that Emmy more? and so much more. John your missed RIP.
Now how's that for class? Certainly one of the great Emmy acceptance speeches. To see how happy his castmates were (when they were also nominated)says a great deal about the kind of man JS was. He was loved and respected and he is greatly missed.
Amazing show, incredible writing, fantastic acting. I miss and love the west wing so very much! RIP Mr. Spencer you served at the pleasure of the audience! Thank you, sir.
I re-watch the 7 seasons at least once a year. Can't help it. So glad I have the entire DVD set. Best show ever. Wish the cast could really run this country.
We still watch a few episodes from the DVD box set whenever my partner and I want to popcorn and couch quilt time together. It’s just so intelligent and well scripted.
I have never seen the tv show the west wing, but I have seen the late John Spencer in the movies the negotiator, and the rock. He was a good actor. May he rest in peace.
That was so great to see Johnny win. I miss him so much. And I couldn't believe it, they took over the entire catagory just about. WOW. Thank you for uploading this. :)
JOHN SPENCER!!!!!! The Amazing John Spencer!!!! For Ever Leo!!!! Such a terrific actor... I was devasted when while watching the dvd, Martin Sheen pop up at the begining of an episod and annonce that this episod is for John.... I had no idea... couldn't believe.
I know everyone has said this, but it´s amazing how his castmates are soooooo happy for him!! It gets me every time!! "So this, my friends, is deliciously redundant" I love John Spencer and his Leo!
He passed away in December (2005) while they were still filming the 7th season. They literally re-wrote every episode from then on out. He was such a great actor and I miss him so much!! He really deserved this Emmy.
I've never seen this before. Did he just say that acting "saved me, it's the reason I get up in the morning, it's my opiate." Man alive. RIP Jon Spencer. You are Leo, through and through. God save you.
You can tell by the way he smiles, and by the way everyone is happy for him (expecially Bradley Whitford) how a sweet man he has been. And, of course, he was an incredible actor.
I just finished watching all 7 seasons of the WW. It is without a doubt, the best written show I've ever watched in my 60 years. Yes, I'm late to the party, but so glad I came 20+ years later.
Yes it is.
Watch "The Newsroom". It's another Sorkin masterpiece.
Meh it kind of went downhill after season 4 when sorkin left, still watchable after that, but definitely the writing wasn't as good.
@@badsaint1019Agreed. Lost its way after Sorkin left.
ya,. you should definitely watch The Newsroom. It's also sorkin doing very well at writing. Very similar. And it's genuinely just really good.
It's awesome you got to experience a show you liked this much, though. Good for you :)
John Spencer was an exceptional actor -- the episodes about his alcoholism were meticulously and beautifully acted. Such talent on that show.
I learned he was actually a real recovering alcoholic. You can see how much the cast loved him. I miss his walk.
He was a handsome sly guy, reminds me of sanatra. Soothing voice
Bradley Whitford's reaction is just amazing, I believe that for a show to be truly great the actors need genuine love for their co stars, the west wing had that massively
***** I watched that scene right before this video and I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with you.
How good was that show?!
seoul588 I miss TWW every single day (Thank God for Netflix. :) ). I miss John Spencer just as much. That said, they REALLY couldn't have ended the show as well as they did because of John Spencer's very untimely death. The way TPTB (The Powers That Be... the writers, producers, etc.) took Spencer's death and just kinda ran with it on the fly (sort of) still boggles my mind to this day.
Did you know, up until Spencer passed away, TPTB were planning on having Santos lose the election? TPTB had originally written the ending in such a way that Vinick (played by the irreplaceable Alan Alda) was going to win the election. Spencer's death changed all of that, and the writers ended up having to do a major rewrite of some future scripts so that the show would end the way it eventually did (everybody knew, going into the first season, that TWW would only run for seven seasons). I read somewhere that the reason TPTB made the change to Santos winning the election was because TPTB didn't want to further depress the viewers by having Santos lose the election AND his friend, Leo, in one fell swoop.
RIP, John Spencer. :(
***** I knew none of that. Thanks for the color. Sadly, no Netflix in Hong Kong, but where there is a will there is a way.
I was coming in here to comment on that. It was really lovely to see that reaction
***** Oh, so god made netflix? interesting
I miss John Spencer. I miss the West Wing. How great is it. 4 out of 6 Emmy Nominations.
And keep in mind, it's almost always the case when we're than 1 actor or actress from a show is nominated it dilutes the vote so someone else wins. So it was actually more of an accomplishment for him to get it with so many West Wing brilliant people nominated!
I just started it recently and I’m really impressed. It’s a great show.
A testament to how great he, they and Sorkin is. Amazing show. I'm on my 5th 6th run through.
It was probably the greatest show I’ve ever seen. I’ve watched The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men and any number of other high quality shows. None of them were as consistently well written, well acted and impactful as WW.
TWW @@toddschneider847 - Wether we uunderstand it or not, we are all involved in poliitics. TWW tried to help make us think before we walk into the voters booth.
RIP John Spencer, just finished season 7 of West Wing after being completely isolated from spoilers the entire run. What an amazing actor, my favorite character on the show.
John’s personal story and Leo’s story are amazingly close
I cried when he died, such a great actor, loved him and his role on West Wing
"This, my friends, is deliciously redundant". What a gorgeous phrase.
+Megan Ripley Ditto
it stays with you
We got robbed of an excellent actor too soon.
Still breaks my heart.
"Deliciously redundant." What a lovely turn of phrase. It's often said, but it's never truer than when it's said about John Spencer... he was gone far, far too soon. Watching Leo's funeral still makes me cry. One of the great actors of our time.
I just re-watched this video again a couple minutes ago. It never dawned on me up until now how many of John Spencer's fellow actors, both on and off the show, had literal tears of joy in their eyes for their friend and colleague. They were GENUINELY happy that he finally had won an Emmy. That's something you don't see every day in egocentric Hollyweird. I'm just sayin'...
***** They knew better than any of us that he'd earned that award. :)
Watching full series for first time now cuz recently retired. I know John Spencer dies soon, thus Leo and I’m dreading it.
Sheen hugs him, Hill claps him on the shoulder, Allison kisses him, he hugs Josh and then Schiff.
I wanna be in this family now.
+Jeffrey Zhang "Josh" haha... After watching a lot of the interviews and the Harvard West Wing reunion, it's so clear how Sorkin ended up writing the real Bradley Whitford into Josh.
That was so sweet. ❤️
I don't have to be in it, I just want it back!
Dulé runs up and slaps his shoulder
Did anybody see how fast Brad stood up there?
"Yes!"
Apparently when Bradley Whitford won his Emmy for Noel the previous season, as he stood up he turned to John and said "you're next" :)
@ jerodast:
"Noel"?
YouzTube99 that's the name of West Wing season 2 episode 10
@LittleAlice7794:
Thank you for the clarification. More precisely, 'Noël' which may have clued me in but not necessarily . . .
RIP John Spencer (December 20, 1946 - December 16, 2005), aged 58
You will be remembered as a legend.
The fact that this was a three peat
2000 - Richard
2001 - Bradley
2002 - John
Martin didn't win one?
-Almost finished with watching the entire series, only three episodes left. I'm in tears. The writing is brilliant as are the actors. John Spencer was definitely my favorite. What a class act and a presence unlike any other. Rest in Peace, John.
This was unquestionably John Spencer's season. The whole cast knew it... you can tell by their reaction that they're thrilled for him. RIP John.
I met him once at the Helen Hayes awards and got the opportunity to speak with him over a drink. He was one of the kindest and most genuine people I’ve ever met. He died shortly after and I’ve never felt more devastated by a loss of someone I barely knew. He was a national treasure.
@Shawn Dean how old were you when you met John Spencer?
😢😢😢 RIP John Spencer. Such a talented actor and genuinely caring man.
As a fan , of his from LA Law and recently view him in The West Wing. I'm in such appreciation Mr. Spencer the man and the actor. May you continue shine upon us who adore your work.
Is it just me or does this video bring tears to anyone's eyes?
One of the most adroitly written, brilliantly acted TV series of all time. Would that we be governed real-time by such committed patriots. John Spencer, thank you. Peace.
Especially now in 2020...
The plot line involving Ansley Hayes is one of my favorites. JS was remarkable at portraying what I wish in my heart could be true about our democracy. When Ansley returned for Leo’s funeral was very moving.
Sometimes I think the West Wing was so perfect that it existed only in my mind. That's how much I loved that show. It made me move to DC after college and take a job in the federal government. But its things like this that remind me that it wasn't just in my head. And so many other people loved it, too. And that the show was really as good as we all thought it was. What John says at the end about acting is so poignant and well put. RIP Sir.
Great great man! In a show like West Wing, only the best had place. And John was, without doubt, one of the best. RIP John.
The reaction of Brad when John was anounced as the winner. Just love it. Miss you John.
Am just watching 'Bartlet for America' and had to come here and rewatch Johnny Spencer winning his Emmy. Such a gracious, worthy winner, and you only have to see how happy his castmates are for him to know he was a good person and a great actor.
That's crazy I literally just finished the episode and came right here!
Moira K I'm re-watching them all, just got to this one, it's brilliant, listen to the west wing weekly podcast on this episode too, it's equally great
This is one of the rare occasions where the phrase "well-deserved" is truly spot-on. The only issue with this Emmy is that it was his first and only one. The reactions of the WW cast members were exceptionally awesome.. make you wanna play it over and over again :)
+Mohammad Elayan I thought so too, especially Bradly W. who kind of slams the ground just to get up! I love this series and I kind of fear that nothing will ever compare to it while I'm still alive
Mohammad Elayan accidentally disliked this at first but MAN YOU ARE SO RIGHT. I adore John. So well deserved
I just watched the scene where Leo explains addiction and how it affects his life to Karen Larsen and as a recovering addict myself it was the most beautiful and accurate representation of our experience that I have ever seen on television.
I agree! I.hope you are good my friend
Watching the seasons again now on Netflix. Mr. Spencer...the world misses you, your talent and you!!
As thrilled as I am that John won, my favorite part of this was how happy everyone else was for him; Bradley Whitford's reaction was fantastic. Clearly, the love and camaraderie on The West Wing are also true in real life, and that's what makes the show and this cast so great. They really are a family, and that's wonderful.
Mr. Spencer's speech and his untimely death make you realize just how important doing what you love really is.
I'd never seen this before. And now I'm crying. Dammit, John Spencer, you are sorely missed.
It's a terrible shame that John Spencer is gone - I would have loved to have seen more of his work. I just loved him on WW.
when I heard he died, I was broken hearted....and he was a young man when he died. One of the great character actors of his generation.
Miss this show so much -- the finest -- and John Spencer is dearly missed. What an elegant acceptance.
Back when The West Wing dominated primetime television. Great moment!
Absolutely dominated it.........
I am just finishing watching the series, he just died on the show & it made me so sad. I loved his character on West Wing. Rest in Peace, John
When John died it felt for me that a family member passed. The writing was so good that I got caught up in really caring about the characters. I miss the show so much.
I love Bradley's reaction. The West Wing was extraordinary (and I'm currently re-re-re-watching it)
As a recovering alcoholic and addict. Leo’s portrayal of an alcoholic was wonderfully played!
I'm so glad john got the recognition he deserved before we lost him.
I liked John Spencer on the West Wing series. He deserved the award.
He completely deserved that award. No performance on the show floors me as often and as hard as John's. He was an amazing actor, but more importantly he was an amazing man. Words cannot express the pain of losing such a talented man. May he rest in peace.
What an actor what a programme.I miss them both.
Its 2016 and i LOVE THIS SHOW! So sad John passed Away. He was in my top 10 people to meet.
More class than I've ever seen - on stage or off - from this business called acting. We miss you, Mr. Spencer.
A wonderful ensemble, brilliant writing, set design, direction and music. The perfect package.
I think that scene in The West Wing when Josh breaks down after Leo dies isn't acting: I think the actors had so much respect for each other that those were legitimate tears Bradley was crying
I totally agree! And that hunting scene when President Bartlet/Martin Sheen, has that far away, grief filled devastated look as a pallbearer. I don't think he had to act it at all
Whoa spoiler. Just started watching. Leo dies? :(
I'm sure he used his real emotions to fuel his performance. Just like they draw from any real life experience to inspire their performance.
@@lilavodaman The actor died before the show ended so they had to kill Leo off. I won't say when though so hopefully you aren't completely spoiled?
@@lilavodaman I would usually agree with you BUT when a show has been off the air for almost 15 years, I think it's reasonable that folks are discussing all of the show. That said, how lucky you are to be seeing it for the first time! Best show ever in TV history IMHO
And if it makes you feel better, we were ALL spoiled! John Spencer died in real life so we all KNEW oh so sadly Leo would meet the same fate. At the time it was well known that the cast was devestated by his loss. Hence a few of us feeling that there were parts of this scene that didn't involve much acting. I adored John Spencer, and I still miss his brilliant acting!
You were always one of our favorite actors, and even now, many years later, we miss you terribly... RIP...
Never get tired of this clip, never get tired of Bradley's face and reaction, and *never* get tired of seeing your comment. True fans appreciate each other. :)
Bradley reaction is so warm, so great, it seems that his team just score at a football game. Wonderfull!! That say what a great guy John Spencer was and Bradley Whitford is.
RIP Leo... RIP John Spencer! I cry everytime I watch The West Wing and see Leo's character die. We miss you Johnny!
John Spencer is a wonderful actor and a lovely guy, and its truly sad he's no longer here.
Can I just say, that is how you make a damn good speech ,"deliciously redundant", what a gentleman.
The best parts about watching the show was discovering John Spencer.
4/6 were from West Wing, think that’s shows how good the show was
its so surreal to see in there individual persona's in the characters they portray. bradly (josh) jumping up and being so animated, john (leo) having that smirk and gestures that are so adored in the show. having a heart attack in season 6, his death being played into the script for season 7... its almost easy to forget that it happened in real life while watching the show, the realization adds so much more emotion to the final episodes of the west wing. RIP
Seriously.....4 out of 6 nominated in this category from the West Wing....thats amazing and shows you just how great of a show this was. Is there anyone who deserved that Emmy more? and so much more. John your missed RIP.
Awww. I love how happy the rest of the cast is for him.
What a human John Spencer was, A smile that could light up a room. The heart and soul of the greatest TV show ever made.
omg this is beautiful. made me cry. RIP John
I just watched/rewatched the another great Leo centric episode of the West Wing. Google brought me here and man, did John Spencer deserve that award!
Now how's that for class? Certainly one of the great Emmy acceptance speeches. To see how happy his castmates were (when they were also nominated)says a great deal about the kind of man JS was. He was loved and respected and he is greatly missed.
Miss him. Such a great man!
Spencer was my favourite “Hey it’s THAT guy!” in the movies. God rest his soul
link biff “War Games” as the missile silo tech who would NOT launch his nuclear missile. I also loved him in “The Rock” as the FBI Director.
I keep watching it and I keep crying 🥹 Rest In Peace you wonderful soul
Yes. Exactly.
Great show! Great writers! Great actors! Couldn't wait to see each episode. So sorry when John Spencer passed away.
Amazing show, incredible writing, fantastic acting. I miss and love the west wing so very much! RIP Mr. Spencer you served at the pleasure of the audience! Thank you, sir.
I re-watch the 7 seasons at least once a year. Can't help it. So glad I have the entire DVD set. Best show ever. Wish the cast could really run this country.
What a man! Fantastic actor, and truly a great loss. RIP
JOHN SPENCER = Superb actor, with a smile that lights up a room, a movie set, etc.
We still watch a few episodes from the DVD box set whenever my partner and I want to popcorn and couch quilt time together. It’s just so intelligent and well scripted.
I have never seen the tv show the west wing, but I have seen the late John Spencer in the movies the negotiator, and the rock. He was a good actor. May he rest in peace.
Listen to his speech, we need more actors like him.
Just started watching West Wing all these years later what an actor John was playing Leo the real deal , gone to soon.
That was so great to see Johnny win. I miss him so much. And I couldn't believe it, they took over the entire catagory just about. WOW. Thank you for uploading this. :)
God I miss John Spencer
JOHN SPENCER!!!!!! The Amazing John Spencer!!!! For Ever Leo!!!! Such a terrific actor...
I was devasted when while watching the dvd, Martin Sheen pop up at the begining of an episod and annonce that this episod is for John.... I had no idea... couldn't believe.
It looked like Whitfield was about to pull a Zoolander with how excited he was to hear someone else’s name.
I know everyone has said this, but it´s amazing how his castmates are soooooo happy for him!! It gets me every time!!
"So this, my friends, is deliciously redundant"
I love John Spencer and his Leo!
RIP John you are sorely missed.
i love that Bradley Whitford is on his feet even before they're done saying his name.
"Deliciously redundant." Well said Mr. Spencer! You've always had our love and respect.
Oh goodness this made me cry. What a lovely cast, and what a great actor John was.
Everytime I watch this... *tear*
He passed away in December (2005) while they were still filming the 7th season. They literally re-wrote every episode from then on out. He was such a great actor and I miss him so much!! He really deserved this Emmy.
Miss him so much!
I like to think when the West Wing cast filmed the episodes where Leo McGarry died that was real emotion for their friend John Spencer.
This makes me so happy :') God I miss that man
Somethings this wonderful makes me cry.
Well-deserved!! The other cast member's reactions really do say it all!!
i'm literally crying.
we miss you, John.
I love how he runs up the stairs, he's so excited!!
John Spencer. An amazing actor. You will be missed!
I've never seen this before. Did he just say that acting "saved me, it's the reason I get up in the morning, it's my opiate." Man alive. RIP Jon Spencer. You are Leo, through and through. God save you.
what an amazing actor!
"Deliciously redundant!"
One of the greatest actors who has ever lived.
Rest in peace John Spencer. Rest in peace.
You can tell by the way he smiles, and by the way everyone is happy for him (expecially Bradley Whitford) how a sweet man he has been. And, of course, he was an incredible actor.
We love you so much, John. Thank you for everything. 💓
The West Wing pretty much owned TV at that time. :)
Man, TWW dominated the Emmy noms there!
@MrFnClean
"Look at my compadres!"
It's a team thing, a win for one is a win for all on the West Wing team. Ain't it something?