🚨 🚨 🚨I MADE A HUGE ERROR IN THIS VIDEO. THE NEW Q-SYMPHONY ONLY SUPPORTS 1 FRAME WITH THE Q990D …. NOT 2. MAJOR APOLOGIES FOR THE CONFUSION. I THOUGHT I HAD IT ALL CLEAR WITH SAMSUNG BUT APPARENTLY NOT. ALSO TO CONNECT A SINGLE MUSIC FRAME YOU NEED TO CONNECT WIRELESSLY MUTING THE INPUTS. Also the frames do not come with a remote but have buttons on the side.
Love this guys videos, he’s like a crossover of a Baldwin brother and Adam Driver. I’ve always wanted to have an amazing loud full cinema surround sound system, just to capture that magic, his channel has narrowed down the choice for me, not a Samsung though.
@@neverenoughtech lmao! You favor a Baldwin but sound like Kylo. But I have made my choice thanks to you man, Nakamichi Soundwafe 9.2.4, for the on sale at BestBuy price it’s worth it.
I have the Samsung Q990C. While I initially received a defective subwoofer, Samsung shipped me a replacement. Since it came in, the performance has been flawless. I have been blown away at just how good the Q990C is. It’s not really a soundbar system. It sounds more like a true home surround atmos system and I LOVE it.
What Samsung should do is make a mini soundbar like the Polk audio magnifi mini but with the rear speakers from the 990 soundbars and offer the rear speakers separately to connect to the soundbar as front stereo speakers or a full system with the four satellite speakers and soundbar using two if the satellite speakers for front left and right speakers and the soundbar as center channel.
I got rid of my 990c for the htA9 and Iv regretted it the big sub that you can get with the Sony is just not good. The spacial and hight effects might be A little better but it’s not worth it for no center and lack of base.
You are for sure under-subbed. I’ve been watching you for a while and subscribe to several A/V UA-cam channels. Yours is the only one that’s a quick automatic click.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing your review of the frame tv in combination with music frame. Curious though about the frame tv in combo with sonos era 300s and how the two systems compare. Both would look good, but I suspect hiding the power cable of the music frame to hang on the wall would be problematic for some (me) and the sound quality of the sonos would trump the music frame. Great in depth report by the way!
I think the frame power chord is specialized to be less obvious image-us.samsung.com/SamsungUS/home/television-home-theater/home-theater/wireless-speakers/gallery/MusicFrame_LSI_08-a_ArtPanel_BBI_1200x800.jpg?$product-details-jpg$ but yeah … hiding the chord involves some kind of construction on a wall … sound quality - I suspect it’s better than people are expecting but yes I don’t expect it to be a true competitor to the 300 but rather a higher end symphonisk
Can’t wait to see more info on the frames!! I have the q990c and 65q90C. Will be curious how all these connect to the tv/soundbar in regards to sound quality… also the q90c has multi audio out with wireless capability. And also has simultaneous optical audio out (off/on) which may play a role in how these connect. However another interesting option I ran into is, the q900c was substantially cheaper than the q990c for 2023, but the soundbar and sub were identical (as opposed to the 910c which had a different subwoofer). So maybe the Q900D with 2 music frames as rears would be a better/alternative option for some. Also, I saw their disclaimer about frames only working with 2024 TVs, but am struggling to see what possible option they have the Q90C can’t do. However, the recent software update (1402.5) on the Q90C has totally screwed up MANY features/settings for the tv. For example, the setting shortcut button no longer works right. The “auto” option for earc is broken (if enabled, it reduces every option to stereo pcm regardless of connection or source. It also had a semi negative affect on the picture quality/brightness. But the always on optical audio and multi audio out option still worn. Sorry so long, just trying to explain what I’ve experienced! 🎉 Ps. Keep up the MAXIMUM effort!! You’re truly the best at what you do here!! 🎉 Pps. Hope to see many soundbar review options as well as any different style systems like the Platin systems or even the passive soundbars that are catching on. Lastly, the Samsung S90C has a headphone output, wouldn’t it be possible to utilize that output to connect and external powered sub?? I’ve been researching ways to to incorporate a DAC to the optical out on my Q90C to connect to a more powerful sub ins conjunction with the q990C like say the OSD Trevoce 12/15” with built in dsp. Any thoughts on this?? 🎉
A lot here. I’ll address the 2024 compatibility issue. A single frames can connect wirelessly or via BT with non 2024 Samsung tv. I have not gotten a clear answer whether you can connect two frames for simple playback or whether that involves 2024 Q-symphony version. For coordination (including simultaneous play) between any two or three playback types (frames, tv, and soundbar) the 24 Q-symphony version is required on all cooperating components
The “More questions” 😂 I tried the 930c and was great. Sadly I realized I only want to buy a white set up 😂 Would be cool to see the whole set up with a white build including frames.
Really intriguing upgrade... Plus the music frames may be the only way to let my wife overlook me placing an additional 2 speakers in our living room. Maybe Samsung knows its audience better than we think...
Ok. I'm really excited for the frames and how they work with the rest of the Samsung systems. I'm just hoping that there'll be distinct sound separation with the additional frames and not simply enhanced loudness only, if u guys know what I mean 😅
Yeah I do expect that they will assist in distancing channels and that they will be directional … I don’t think they will merely increase the volume … but the total channel count is not being advertised … and no other guy than me - ( 1 dude channel - only explanation for why I would be in front of the camera).
I upgrade from 950A to 990D and the bass is much better, rear speakers are better and sound is more crisp. The 950A would get hotter 990D runs cooler for some reason
Great review, I was holding out for your review of the 990D but since I have a 2022 Sony TV I cannot benefit from the front surround frames which is a deal breaker for me, thanks for clarifying that important point😢
I placed anti vibration mounts under every speaker on my Q930b and got a very noticeable uptick in audio quality, it tightens the bass and lifts the sound, imo it's cheaper and better than upgrading the system...
@@neverenoughtech strange as it sounds (pun intended), I have springs under the bar and sub and high density foam under the rears between the stands...they were lying around so I tried them and now never going back
Excellent video as per usual! Samsung still not allowing a dual sub setup is such a missed opportunity. I wonder if the drivers in the frame are the same as the soundbar's, Q Symphony sounds pretty meh due to driver mismatch, you can easily tell timbre is off.
Strange that you cannot use this with the Samsung S95C from 2023, but ok, no Music Frame here in my house. Looking forward to your C vs D review, as I am still on HW-Q950T with sometimes drop outs
There was at least a software upgrade in 24 Q symphony that enables cooperation in a larger ecosystem. Though I suspect this is an upgrade that could be pushed to older models … I have not read about any upgraded chip set over the last few years that would suggest they can’t
Rats.. I was hoping the Music Frames could be paired up with the soundbar. I have way too many TVs already and can’t justify buying a 2024 Samsung just to play around with this. It is a cool idea though and I can’t wait to see how it all sounds once you get your set up.
I bought a smaller version so I can replace a monitor - yeah seems like Samsung is going all in on Q-symphony as a tech to expand sound and the engine is going to live in the TVs - and (this is not unique to Samsung) every year a new tv and sb will be required to unleash the full potential … where perhaps a software upgrade would be sufficient - though I’m not an expert on the different chip sets that may be being updated to support expanded functionality
Is there a difference between Samsung's hdr + and hdr pro? The 65 inch doesn't get the pro Only the 85 inch Q900d gets Supersize Picture Enhancer. What the heck is that,? I'm assuming it up scales or like fine tunes native 8k content?? Since the gen 3 ai chip up scales content to 8k
Hey Daniel! I recently got the Bose 900 sound bar without the sub nd the surrounds. I ran the adaptiq. Played some content and found out the adaptiq toggle was off in audio settings even after calibration. I turned it on and found out that doing so turns the base way down, although improving the overall sound. Even increasing the base to 70 when adaptiq is ON doesn't really gives the base that I was getting when adaptiq was turned off with just +10 on base. Should i run the calb. again or u know a workaround?
Is it possible to connect the q990c to a Ps5 or PC with HDMI, and also connect to the tv? Like a 3 way HDMI? Q990d allows wireless with samsubg tv, but that disables the HDMI.... So
Do you need the TV if you just want to setup all the speakers with a projector and create an amazing surround system? Will the picture frame speakers work with the surround system alone?
The TV is the hub that allows frame and SB to work together … frames will not work with a projector unless maybe it’s a Samsung projector with MY24 Q-symphony built in. You can attach a single frame to a projector via BT for basic playback
I may have missed it but will the music frame pair up with the 990c as well? Also would the music frames sound be hindered when mounted on a wall since it will probably be flush against it?
hello, I would like to buy the q990C soundbar for $1040 or it is better to choose the q990D for $1390. Is there a big difference between the two to pay over $300 more. I buy the soundbar in Germany.
Also do u think for a small bedroom, I should get 2 frames? I'm mostly sitting right jfnront of the soundbar so separation Shouldn't be a big deal right? Using it as a pc, work desk. Im getting the top of the line Q990d tv because those are the only with 6.2.4CH 90W. Best tv speakers?
I can’t answer yet as I have not heard them. I’m hopeful but not in a position to offer buying advice other than - you will need a 2024 soundbar and TV to play soundbar, tv, and frames sound at the same time and in a coordinated manner
Inspired by your illegal sonos setup, I've made my own "monster". The complaint about samsung Q990B and C and D is that you can't extend it with extra front speakers. Now with the 990D, we can see this frame thingy coming alive, but i'm unimpressed. I have a philips 65oled708/12 TV that can give me a stereo signal next to dolby atmos bitstreaming to the soundbar (Q990B). So using out this little feature, i've connected a pair of JBL 308P MKII studio monitors to the stereo jack of the TV. I can only say shits and giggles, because holly cow what this "illegal" setup can do. The soundbar is nice itself but lacks power in the midrange and SPL on the highs. Now with some channel level magic, i've matched the two systems on volume levels to complement each other. The two JBL gives musical fidelity, fuller bass, warmer/clearer dialogs and a spectacular front resolution to the already crazy space filling soundbar. Not to mention that thanks to it's significantly faster drivers, it can produce sounds that are otherwise lost with the soundbar only. Basically I've elevated all surround, sub and atmos channels, but i generally keep the volume lower around 14 only. The JBL-s are set in a way that they are just a little louder then the soundbar. I've played around with a lot of versions, but I found this way is the best for my space.
I knew you'd be crazy enough to purchase all the gear to make this absurdly delightful set-up a reality! I must confess my annoyance at Samsung..while I appreciate their need to drive sales, having compatibility ONLY with 2024 gear, leave a sour taste. For past few years, Samsung unveils new features ONLY for newest model year. There's no reason they can't include some older version.. Heck the 990 b, c , d are really the same. And aside from insane folks like you, not even the most ardent feverish tech crazed person would upgrade a 2023 flagship TV a year later.
The increments are not worth upgrading for generally … but perhaps the accumulated benefits make sense after 5 years … but it’s frustrating that they are wysiwyg systems with limited potential beyond what you see day one
Yes works with all 2024 soundbars … but the rear sound would be fed from a 24 tv using a symphony tech not the soundbar. The 24 soundbar has the software to harmonize with the tv and frames not the ability to directly pair more components
Hi, I got exposed to your channel just lately. I love your content. In regards to the vid, but a different setup, Do you think It would be possible to run a similar setup but with Sonos? (arc+sub+2 era 300 +2 Symfonisk speakers on frontstage?)
Sonos Arc with four Era 300s and two Subs ... Nakamichi Dragon Slayer? ua-cam.com/video/yNQsHL6l8NY/v-deo.html Keep in mind only one pair of speakers can officially cooperate with the arc the other pair would group but play all the sounds (front and back)
can you verify if the music frame works with 2023 tv's just in case as I have a S90C TV and Q990C soundbar. I would consider the music frame if it works with the Setup I mentioned and it would be helpful. thank you
For the ultra setup I discussed it requires a 2024 version of Q-symphony and other requisite pairing software … so 99.9% sure it won’t work. I can test them with my 22 frame tv - don’t have a 23 Samsung tv.
just asked a sam operatior if it will be possible to connect the frame /2 pieces/ with S95B and Q990B and they said it will be possible for all them to work together. Cant wait for your review! @@neverenoughtech
I am working on a full frame set up. I have a 50" frame, 2 music frames, and a soundbar + sub HW-S801B. I was hoping Q symphony would connect them all together but it is not working. I was hoping to connect the 2 music frames to the soundbar and then run with the TV using Q symphony. Can you help? Samsung support can't seem to grasp the idea of this full Samsung Frame setup.
@@neverenoughtech That's unfortunate. That will make my 2 frames useless in the room with my Frame TV where obviously it looks well. I went with the minimalistic HW-S801B to match the look as well and it sounds better then the music frames. Still hoping there is an option where q symphony or wifi can connect all 3 components somehow as a group and possibly tailor it based on speaker location. Good luck when you receive yours next week. Great devices! I wish the frames where digital to match what's displayed on the Frame TV. That would be awesome.
Unless all three pieces are 24 MY and running the 24 MY version of Q-Symphony - you won’t get all three playing. The best you can do with the frames without a 24 TV which acts as a Q-symphony hub is play them as single speakers or connect one with a tv over BT or WiFi (if it’s a higher end MY 22 Samsung tv or higher) and have tv sound come out of a single speaker. To make it work you really got to invest in Samsung 2024
So I'm in Canada. We get insane deals. 30% off any sound system with 2024 TV. Even the frame. So I get Q990d for 1500$ cad. Same price as new q990c. I'm looking at the qn900d 8k, 4k 240hz. $6.5K cad with $600 off if I buy a $40 55 inch tv from a rando. Trade in. 75 inch 8k baby as my pc monitor and gaming. Hopefully the latency is good, I know it's not oled. I love ethics. Took courses at Stanford (morality) during undergrad. My flourishing life eudaimonia, is very much a form of utilitarianism. My moral obligation. I'd love to tell more or discuss
I haven’t heard eudaimonia compared to utilitarianism - maybe I’m not well versed but utilitarianism doesn’t have much to say on how to properly conceptualize the good but rather that we should have as much of it as we can … ?
@@neverenoughtech Aristotle was very much focused ok the concept of self. Community is part of the self. Bettering your community is bettering yourself. They didn't have a concept of morality back then, just virtue. Hence his ethical theory is virtue ethics. Follow the example of the leaders in your community. That is a virtuous life. Focus on sofia, the pursuit of knowledge at the forefronts (he ranks philosophers as #1). That's eudaimonia. My view is that a flourishing life is bettering myself, my family, friends and community, then the world. I posit that's ideal in an utilitarian lens too (mroe ffficient at helping the world whne your self is happy, and self jnckdues community) , my own version of rule utilitarianism. Writing this on my phone. This is something I wrote a very introductory analysis on utlitiaribsm and some popular counters docs.google.com/document/d/1D8LwKHljfSCgk7Bas1X9T-ALadfAbrx9ZMcFFPO5lx4/edit?usp=sharing
I’m in agreement with your Aristotle comments - and living with virtue is a critical piece of a flourishing self and broadening the radius is a natural progression. I would say promoting virtue would fulfill the charter of utilitarianism naturally - my concern with utilitarianism is that it doesn’t have a trie sonum bonum built in and if attached to faulty moral assumptions - in practice - it can lead to great misery. Where virtue alone would never do that. Sloppy thoughts … but I’m a good ole uncle Aristotle fan
@@neverenoughtech the fallacies of bentham attempting to calculate everything, eudaimonic calculus. That can lead to many a disasters from good intentions. The #1 fault with utlilitariabusm is the lack of knowledge. We simply don't have newly enough confidence to say what is the best in the long run. Or even know how to compare shrot term gains vs long term gains. Is it right to sacrifice millions of humans currently, sending them into privation, because we ban them from natural oil and gas? Because we predict climate change in 100 years will affect more people. But what if we're wrong? I can easily see the predictions being off. How does one justify these decisions? In an utilitarian method, it might be correct to make less decisions when knwodlege is not of a certain threshold of certainty. So you only make very few local decisions affecting your community (hence local government)
I would be interested if you could substitute the rear speakers of the Q990D with Music Frames for a better WAF (wife approval factor). A comparison of the full setup with the HT-A9 (and/or it's rumoured successor) would be interesting as well.
Yes, if your 24 SB does not have rear speakers (or even has rear speakers possibly) you can pair the frames to the tv for rear sound Q symphony extension. Requires a 24 TV
I'm having a dilemma. On 1 hand, i wanna get the Q990D + frames. On the other, i read reviews about the new LG G4 TV being a potential winner, but i wouldn't be able to get G4 if i get the Samsung Soundbar - no Q Symphony... So I'll be forced to get the new 2024 Samsung TVs but not sure which series is on par with LG G4 equivalent.
Get Q990d like I'm doing 4k 240hz gaming, (my only concern is the latency might not be sub 4ms, which is needed, oelds always have low latency) . Free upgrade to 75 inch from 65 inch, same price. And trade in $600 off any tv 55inch plus cna be broken. In Canada at least. And 30% off Q990d. Combod.
QSymphony is a bit of a gimmick best left off. The center channel on the soundbar are fantastic. The tv speakers are inferior. Not sure how using them with the soundbar is a net plus.
@@mrkhadi1 huh that's not the case with high end tv speakers. The weird ones on the Sony a95l that are through the screen don't match with their hta9. That's different
One thing I regret about this channel is the sense that no matter what you buy you should feel regret because new stuff will come out. The Sonos arc and 100s and two subs is a fine system - many more worse systems than better. The new stuff will differ the same fate
@neverenoughtech thnx for making me feel better. I know. Thing is I was happy with my bose homestyle v something. My girl wahhh wahhh wires. All over. Smh lol. Went to best buy after watching a bunch of vids to look at sonos. Heard the bose omg. 700 sub and smart bar I think. Well it was insane. Went to arc she like it so Went with it. I'm a tech guy. She knows me. It was alot of money buy I feel my bose was good still after what 14 yrs. I like to stay up to date with tech. But I feel didn't need new surround lol. Appreciate your reply. Keep up the good work ill be there with the "illegal " sonos set up soon lol. I really should have saved for the dragon tbh. Next time
@neverenoughtech the thing is I got the samsung s90c and was gonna grad 990c but sold out after debating when had in my cart on samsung site. So wasnt sure how long would take to restock. Do went to best buy didn't see it on display. But I didn't ask and they had it. I heard it after I had already got my sonos amd was way passed time to return so yeah. The 990 isn't bad from what I heard. But I feel sonos better quality overall so I think ill live haha.
Apparently the Q990D will only work with one frame. Well that sucks well that sucks. I wouldn’t trust the Samsung reps. They told me the new S90D QDOLED when it’s clearly not stated anywhere that it’s QDOLED. Samsung can ship you either QDOLED or non-QDOLED.
@@neverenoughtech Samsung is learning from the best - Apple, etc... tie the consumer up in their ecosystem so they're forced to use everything Samsung.
Is not just apple, they all do it..but can you imagine buying 2023 flagship gear from Samsung, and can't even use any of the music frames (except stand alone)? They really are exploiting FOMO a bit too much...I'm no fan of Sonos, but they don't alienate their own customers, as a Samsung does EVERY year.... I pity those who pay full price, otherwise I'd never buy Samsung again..however, their prices does give them a pass (Sale price! , no MSRP)
@@neverenoughtechdon’t know if was ask but how about the new LG S95TR vs the new Q99OD? I have a new LG was thinking of returning my Q990C what’s your opinion?
So you bought them but not much testing explained here. I'd love to see / hear the setup. I'd love to hear and buy this but I don't have room to put rear speakers form the 990d setup (My couch is in the middle of the living room).
I still feel an option for an extra sub would have been more relevant on a new model. 120hz pass thru is good for serious gamers, but not movie fans. Great review 🙃
🚨 🚨 🚨I MADE A HUGE ERROR IN THIS VIDEO. THE NEW Q-SYMPHONY ONLY SUPPORTS 1 FRAME WITH THE Q990D …. NOT 2. MAJOR APOLOGIES FOR THE CONFUSION. I THOUGHT I HAD IT ALL CLEAR WITH SAMSUNG BUT APPARENTLY NOT. ALSO TO CONNECT A SINGLE MUSIC FRAME YOU NEED TO CONNECT WIRELESSLY MUTING THE INPUTS. Also the frames do not come with a remote but have buttons on the side.
Love this guys videos, he’s like a crossover of a Baldwin brother and Adam Driver. I’ve always wanted to have an amazing loud full cinema surround sound system, just to capture that magic, his channel has narrowed down the choice for me, not a Samsung though.
I’ve heard Adam driver a bunch not a Baldwin brother 😀 - appreciate the encouragement! Hope you get your mega SS sometime soon
@@neverenoughtech lmao! You favor a Baldwin but sound like Kylo. But I have made my choice thanks to you man, Nakamichi Soundwafe 9.2.4, for the on sale at BestBuy price it’s worth it.
I look forward to being able to hear your witty and compiling thoughts on… 🤘🏽😳
Well you’re definitely gonna get thoughts 💭- I don’t know about the other descriptors
I have the Samsung Q990C. While I initially received a defective subwoofer, Samsung shipped me a replacement. Since it came in, the performance has been flawless. I have been blown away at just how good the Q990C is. It’s not really a soundbar system. It sounds more like a true home surround atmos system and I LOVE it.
What Samsung should do is make a mini soundbar like the Polk audio magnifi mini but with the rear speakers from the 990 soundbars and offer the rear speakers separately to connect to the soundbar as front stereo speakers or a full system with the four satellite speakers and soundbar using two if the satellite speakers for front left and right speakers and the soundbar as center channel.
It would be great to see a comparison between the 990D and Sony HT-A9, I regard your reviews and comparisons very highly
Yeah, seems like something I would do
I got rid of my 990c for the htA9 and Iv regretted it the big sub that you can get with the Sony is just not good. The spacial and hight effects might be A little better but it’s not worth it for no center and lack of base.
Subscribed to your new channel. Looking forward to you looking giddy.
Great, as always.
Appreciate it
You are for sure under-subbed. I’ve been watching you for a while and subscribe to several A/V UA-cam channels. Yours is the only one that’s a quick automatic click.
Appreciate that. I’m weird. Not for everyone - I get it . Glad it resonates with you
I'm actually looking forward to seeing your review of the frame tv in combination with music frame. Curious though about the frame tv in combo with sonos era 300s and how the two systems compare. Both would look good, but I suspect hiding the power cable of the music frame to hang on the wall would be problematic for some (me) and the sound quality of the sonos would trump the music frame. Great in depth report by the way!
I think the frame power chord is specialized to be less obvious image-us.samsung.com/SamsungUS/home/television-home-theater/home-theater/wireless-speakers/gallery/MusicFrame_LSI_08-a_ArtPanel_BBI_1200x800.jpg?$product-details-jpg$ but yeah … hiding the chord involves some kind of construction on a wall … sound quality - I suspect it’s better than people are expecting but yes I don’t expect it to be a true competitor to the 300 but rather a higher end symphonisk
Can’t wait to see more info on the frames!! I have the q990c and 65q90C. Will be curious how all these connect to the tv/soundbar in regards to sound quality… also the q90c has multi audio out with wireless capability. And also has simultaneous optical audio out (off/on) which may play a role in how these connect.
However another interesting option I ran into is, the q900c was substantially cheaper than the q990c for 2023, but the soundbar and sub were identical (as opposed to the 910c which had a different subwoofer). So maybe the Q900D with 2 music frames as rears would be a better/alternative option for some.
Also, I saw their disclaimer about frames only working with 2024 TVs, but am struggling to see what possible option they have the Q90C can’t do.
However, the recent software update (1402.5) on the Q90C has totally screwed up MANY features/settings for the tv. For example, the setting shortcut button no longer works right. The “auto” option for earc is broken (if enabled, it reduces every option to stereo pcm regardless of connection or source. It also had a semi negative affect on the picture quality/brightness. But the always on optical audio and multi audio out option still worn.
Sorry so long, just trying to explain what I’ve experienced! 🎉
Ps. Keep up the MAXIMUM effort!! You’re truly the best at what you do here!! 🎉
Pps. Hope to see many soundbar review options as well as any different style systems like the Platin systems or even the passive soundbars that are catching on.
Lastly, the Samsung S90C has a headphone output, wouldn’t it be possible to utilize that output to connect and external powered sub?? I’ve been researching ways to to incorporate a DAC to the optical out on my Q90C to connect to a more powerful sub ins conjunction with the q990C like say the OSD Trevoce 12/15” with built in dsp. Any thoughts on this?? 🎉
A lot here. I’ll address the 2024 compatibility issue. A single frames can connect wirelessly or via BT with non 2024 Samsung tv. I have not gotten a clear answer whether you can connect two frames for simple playback or whether that involves 2024 Q-symphony version.
For coordination (including simultaneous play) between any two or three playback types (frames, tv, and soundbar) the 24 Q-symphony version is required on all cooperating components
The “More questions” 😂
I tried the 930c and was great. Sadly I realized I only want to buy a white set up 😂
Would be cool to see the whole set up with a white build including frames.
Really intriguing upgrade... Plus the music frames may be the only way to let my wife overlook me placing an additional 2 speakers in our living room.
Maybe Samsung knows its audience better than we think...
Yes the wife will never know the nefarious purpose behind the puppy and kitten photos
Ok. I'm really excited for the frames and how they work with the rest of the Samsung systems. I'm just hoping that there'll be distinct sound separation with the additional frames and not simply enhanced loudness only, if u guys know what I mean 😅
Yeah I do expect that they will assist in distancing channels and that they will be directional … I don’t think they will merely increase the volume … but the total channel count is not being advertised … and no other guy than me - ( 1 dude channel - only explanation for why I would be in front of the camera).
Looking forward to the new channel!
I guess they really listened and gave us that front surround 😅
Cool video, keep up the good work🎉 apologies to the angry wallet😅
The listened to that southern gentleman dictator - quick turnaround - he’s very intimidating
I upgrade from 950A to 990D and the bass is much better, rear speakers are better and sound is more crisp.
The 950A would get hotter 990D runs cooler for some reason
I think there was a significant change between A and B
Any noticeable sound quality improvements with the 990D vs 990C or exact same?
Haven’t had a chance to side by side them yet
The Music Frame does not support Wi-Fi 6.
Great review, I was holding out for your review of the 990D but since I have a 2022 Sony TV I cannot benefit from the front surround frames which is a deal breaker for me, thanks for clarifying that important point😢
I placed anti vibration mounts under every speaker on my Q930b and got a very noticeable uptick in audio quality, it tightens the bass and lifts the sound, imo it's cheaper and better than upgrading the system...
Sounds reasonable and it helps with any system you might get in the future. I haven’t compared sound with and without anti-vibration
@@neverenoughtech strange as it sounds (pun intended), I have springs under the bar and sub and high density foam under the rears between the stands...they were lying around so I tried them and now never going back
I want to check out these new Samsung Music Frames
How you set up Era 300 extras to your home system "illegally"???? I mean like right and left channel???? I love your videos hi from Mexico
Just create a separate stereo pair and grouped with the arc system
@@neverenoughtech super easy tank you!!
Excellent video as per usual! Samsung still not allowing a dual sub setup is such a missed opportunity. I wonder if the drivers in the frame are the same as the soundbar's, Q Symphony sounds pretty meh due to driver mismatch, you can easily tell timbre is off.
I suspect a symphony ecosystem will add subs like the frames for more sub capacity
Please review Bang Olufsen Stage
Strange that you cannot use this with the Samsung S95C from 2023, but ok, no Music Frame here in my house. Looking forward to your C vs D review, as I am still on HW-Q950T with sometimes drop outs
There was at least a software upgrade in 24 Q symphony that enables cooperation in a larger ecosystem. Though I suspect this is an upgrade that could be pushed to older models … I have not read about any upgraded chip set over the last few years that would suggest they can’t
Rats.. I was hoping the Music Frames could be paired up with the soundbar. I have way too many TVs already and can’t justify buying a 2024 Samsung just to play around with this. It is a cool idea though and I can’t wait to see how it all sounds once you get your set up.
I bought a smaller version so I can replace a monitor - yeah seems like Samsung is going all in on Q-symphony as a tech to expand sound and the engine is going to live in the TVs - and (this is not unique to Samsung) every year a new tv and sb will be required to unleash the full potential … where perhaps a software upgrade would be sufficient - though I’m not an expert on the different chip sets that may be being updated to support expanded functionality
Is there a difference between Samsung's hdr + and hdr pro? The 65 inch doesn't get the pro
Only the 85 inch Q900d gets Supersize Picture Enhancer. What the heck is that,? I'm assuming it up scales or like fine tunes native 8k content?? Since the gen 3 ai chip up scales content to 8k
Hey Daniel! I recently got the Bose 900 sound bar without the sub nd the surrounds.
I ran the adaptiq. Played some content and found out the adaptiq toggle was off in audio settings even after calibration.
I turned it on and found out that doing so turns the base way down, although improving the overall sound.
Even increasing the base to 70 when adaptiq is ON doesn't really gives the base that I was getting when adaptiq was turned off with just +10 on base.
Should i run the calb. again or u know a workaround?
can i take the tv speakers out pf the equation on q-symphony and use only soundbar plus music frame?
No tv is a must enabler and keep in mind (read the description) only two items are supported so two frames or a soundbar and one frame
@@neverenoughtech thanks. The worse part for me is that my tv is from 2022
Is it possible to connect the q990c to a Ps5 or PC with HDMI, and also connect to the tv? Like a 3 way HDMI?
Q990d allows wireless with samsubg tv, but that disables the HDMI.... So
Do you mean going from PS5 to sound bar to TV? You can do that via HDMI connections.
@@DonnyBlue15 Ps5 to soundbar. Then tv to soundbar too
@@DonnyBlue15 the Ps5 to tv for the visuals
Do you need the TV if you just want to setup all the speakers with a projector and create an amazing surround system? Will the picture frame speakers work with the surround system alone?
The TV is the hub that allows frame and SB to work together … frames will not work with a projector unless maybe it’s a Samsung projector with MY24 Q-symphony built in. You can attach a single frame to a projector via BT for basic playback
I may have missed it but will the music frame pair up with the 990c as well? Also would the music frames sound be hindered when mounted on a wall since it will probably be flush against it?
Talking Q symphony one music frame speakers pairs with 24TV and 24Soundbar
hello, I would like to buy the q990C soundbar for $1040 or it is better to choose the q990D for $1390. Is there a big difference between the two to pay over $300 more. I buy the soundbar in Germany.
Also do u think for a small bedroom, I should get 2 frames? I'm mostly sitting right jfnront of the soundbar so separation Shouldn't be a big deal right? Using it as a pc, work desk.
Im getting the top of the line Q990d tv because those are the only with 6.2.4CH 90W. Best tv speakers?
I can’t answer yet as I have not heard them. I’m hopeful but not in a position to offer buying advice other than - you will need a 2024 soundbar and TV to play soundbar, tv, and frames sound at the same time and in a coordinated manner
Inspired by your illegal sonos setup, I've made my own "monster". The complaint about samsung Q990B and C and D is that you can't extend it with extra front speakers. Now with the 990D, we can see this frame thingy coming alive, but i'm unimpressed.
I have a philips 65oled708/12 TV that can give me a stereo signal next to dolby atmos bitstreaming to the soundbar (Q990B). So using out this little feature, i've connected a pair of JBL 308P MKII studio monitors to the stereo jack of the TV.
I can only say shits and giggles, because holly cow what this "illegal" setup can do. The soundbar is nice itself but lacks power in the midrange and SPL on the highs. Now with some channel level magic, i've matched the two systems on volume levels to complement each other. The two JBL gives musical fidelity, fuller bass, warmer/clearer dialogs and a spectacular front resolution to the already crazy space filling soundbar. Not to mention that thanks to it's significantly faster drivers, it can produce sounds that are otherwise lost with the soundbar only. Basically I've elevated all surround, sub and atmos channels, but i generally keep the volume lower around 14 only. The JBL-s are set in a way that they are just a little louder then the soundbar. I've played around with a lot of versions, but I found this way is the best for my space.
I knew you'd be crazy enough to purchase all the gear to make this absurdly delightful set-up a reality!
I must confess my annoyance at Samsung..while I appreciate their need to drive sales, having compatibility ONLY with 2024 gear, leave a sour taste. For past few years, Samsung unveils new features ONLY for newest model year.
There's no reason they can't include some older version.. Heck the 990 b, c , d are really the same. And aside from insane folks like you, not even the most ardent feverish tech crazed person would upgrade a 2023 flagship TV a year later.
The increments are not worth upgrading for generally … but perhaps the accumulated benefits make sense after 5 years … but it’s frustrating that they are wysiwyg systems with limited potential beyond what you see day one
Interested in knowing if the music frames work with q800d and can be used as stereo rears?
Yes works with all 2024 soundbars … but the rear sound would be fed from a 24 tv using a symphony tech not the soundbar. The 24 soundbar has the software to harmonize with the tv and frames not the ability to directly pair more components
@@neverenoughtechway go Samsung, determined to take more of my hard earned money on a new 24 tv. 🤦♂️
Hi, I want to buy a 2024 TV The Frame. Can I use 2 Music Frames without a soundbar as front rears? Do you recommend this combination?
You can but don’t know how it sounds yet
Hi, I got exposed to your channel just lately. I love your content.
In regards to the vid, but a different setup,
Do you think It would be possible to run a similar setup but with Sonos?
(arc+sub+2 era 300 +2 Symfonisk speakers on frontstage?)
Sonos Arc with four Era 300s and two Subs ... Nakamichi Dragon Slayer?
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Keep in mind only one pair of speakers can officially cooperate with the arc the other pair would group but play all the sounds (front and back)
Too bad Samsung couldn't also design an Atmos frame speaker, as an option for the rear surrounds.
You can but you have to lose the soundbar and use tv as front speaker
can you verify if the music frame works with 2023 tv's just in case as I have a S90C TV and Q990C soundbar. I would consider the music frame if it works with the Setup I mentioned and it would be helpful. thank you
For the ultra setup I discussed it requires a 2024 version of Q-symphony and other requisite pairing software … so 99.9% sure it won’t work. I can test them with my 22 frame tv - don’t have a 23 Samsung tv.
just asked a sam operatior if it will be possible to connect the frame /2 pieces/ with S95B and Q990B and they said it will be possible for all them to work together. Cant wait for your review! @@neverenoughtech
I am working on a full frame set up. I have a 50" frame, 2 music frames, and a soundbar + sub HW-S801B. I was hoping Q symphony would connect them all together but it is not working. I was hoping to connect the 2 music frames to the soundbar and then run with the TV using Q symphony. Can you help? Samsung support can't seem to grasp the idea of this full Samsung Frame setup.
Your soundbar has to be a 24D version. I’m not getting my frames until the 12th
@@neverenoughtech That's unfortunate. That will make my 2 frames useless in the room with my Frame TV where obviously it looks well. I went with the minimalistic HW-S801B to match the look as well and it sounds better then the music frames. Still hoping there is an option where q symphony or wifi can connect all 3 components somehow as a group and possibly tailor it based on speaker location. Good luck when you receive yours next week. Great devices! I wish the frames where digital to match what's displayed on the Frame TV. That would be awesome.
Unless all three pieces are 24 MY and running the 24 MY version of Q-Symphony - you won’t get all three playing. The best you can do with the frames without a 24 TV which acts as a Q-symphony hub is play them as single speakers or connect one with a tv over BT or WiFi (if it’s a higher end MY 22 Samsung tv or higher) and have tv sound come out of a single speaker. To make it work you really got to invest in Samsung 2024
@@neverenoughtech Thanks for your help! I will give that some thought.
So I'm in Canada. We get insane deals. 30% off any sound system with 2024 TV. Even the frame. So I get Q990d for 1500$ cad. Same price as new q990c. I'm looking at the qn900d 8k, 4k 240hz. $6.5K cad with $600 off if I buy a $40 55 inch tv from a rando. Trade in. 75 inch 8k baby as my pc monitor and gaming. Hopefully the latency is good, I know it's not oled.
I love ethics. Took courses at Stanford (morality) during undergrad. My flourishing life eudaimonia, is very much a form of utilitarianism. My moral obligation. I'd love to tell more or discuss
I haven’t heard eudaimonia compared to utilitarianism - maybe I’m not well versed but utilitarianism doesn’t have much to say on how to properly conceptualize the good but rather that we should have as much of it as we can … ?
@@neverenoughtech Aristotle was very much focused ok the concept of self. Community is part of the self. Bettering your community is bettering yourself. They didn't have a concept of morality back then, just virtue. Hence his ethical theory is virtue ethics. Follow the example of the leaders in your community. That is a virtuous life. Focus on sofia, the pursuit of knowledge at the forefronts (he ranks philosophers as #1). That's eudaimonia.
My view is that a flourishing life is bettering myself, my family, friends and community, then the world. I posit that's ideal in an utilitarian lens too (mroe ffficient at helping the world whne your self is happy, and self jnckdues community) , my own version of rule utilitarianism.
Writing this on my phone. This is something I wrote a very introductory analysis on utlitiaribsm and some popular counters docs.google.com/document/d/1D8LwKHljfSCgk7Bas1X9T-ALadfAbrx9ZMcFFPO5lx4/edit?usp=sharing
I’m in agreement with your Aristotle comments - and living with virtue is a critical piece of a flourishing self and broadening the radius is a natural progression. I would say promoting virtue would fulfill the charter of utilitarianism naturally - my concern with utilitarianism is that it doesn’t have a trie sonum bonum built in and if attached to faulty moral assumptions - in practice - it can lead to great misery. Where virtue alone would never do that. Sloppy thoughts … but I’m a good ole uncle Aristotle fan
@@neverenoughtech the fallacies of bentham attempting to calculate everything, eudaimonic calculus.
That can lead to many a disasters from good intentions. The #1 fault with utlilitariabusm is the lack of knowledge. We simply don't have newly enough confidence to say what is the best in the long run. Or even know how to compare shrot term gains vs long term gains. Is it right to sacrifice millions of humans currently, sending them into privation, because we ban them from natural oil and gas? Because we predict climate change in 100 years will affect more people. But what if we're wrong? I can easily see the predictions being off. How does one justify these decisions?
In an utilitarian method, it might be correct to make less decisions when knwodlege is not of a certain threshold of certainty. So you only make very few local decisions affecting your community (hence local government)
I live in Canada as well, how and where do you see and get those deals?
I would say the d is better then the c in terms of music but with that the C is a hair better at movies
I would be interested if you could substitute the rear speakers of the Q990D with Music Frames for a better WAF (wife approval factor).
A comparison of the full setup with the HT-A9 (and/or it's rumoured successor) would be interesting as well.
Yes, if your 24 SB does not have rear speakers (or even has rear speakers possibly) you can pair the frames to the tv for rear sound Q symphony extension. Requires a 24 TV
I'm having a dilemma. On 1 hand, i wanna get the Q990D + frames.
On the other, i read reviews about the new LG G4 TV being a potential winner, but i wouldn't be able to get G4 if i get the Samsung Soundbar - no Q Symphony...
So I'll be forced to get the new 2024 Samsung TVs but not sure which series is on par with LG G4 equivalent.
Get Q990d like I'm doing 4k 240hz gaming, (my only concern is the latency might not be sub 4ms, which is needed, oelds always have low latency) . Free upgrade to 75 inch from 65 inch, same price. And trade in $600 off any tv 55inch plus cna be broken. In Canada at least. And 30% off Q990d. Combod.
This is a major problem men grapple with that ladies will never understand
QSymphony is a bit of a gimmick best left off. The center channel on the soundbar are fantastic. The tv speakers are inferior. Not sure how using them with the soundbar is a net plus.
@@mrkhadi1 huh that's not the case with high end tv speakers. The weird ones on the Sony a95l that are through the screen don't match with their hta9. That's different
Hi ich besitze Sonos arc + sub+ era 300 ist der Samsung q990d besser ? Grüße
Samsung Q990C vs Sonos Arc + 2 Eras 300s + Sub
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I gave it to the C
@@neverenoughtech thx 🙏
Something says i made a mistake pulling the trigger on sonos arc 2 subs and for now era 100s til i get 4 300's
One thing I regret about this channel is the sense that no matter what you buy you should feel regret because new stuff will come out. The Sonos arc and 100s and two subs is a fine system - many more worse systems than better. The new stuff will differ the same fate
@neverenoughtech thnx for making me feel better. I know. Thing is I was happy with my bose homestyle v something. My girl wahhh wahhh wires. All over. Smh lol. Went to best buy after watching a bunch of vids to look at sonos. Heard the bose omg. 700 sub and smart bar I think. Well it was insane. Went to arc she like it so Went with it. I'm a tech guy. She knows me. It was alot of money buy I feel my bose was good still after what 14 yrs. I like to stay up to date with tech. But I feel didn't need new surround lol. Appreciate your reply. Keep up the good work ill be there with the "illegal " sonos set up soon lol. I really should have saved for the dragon tbh. Next time
@neverenoughtech the thing is I got the samsung s90c and was gonna grad 990c but sold out after debating when had in my cart on samsung site. So wasnt sure how long would take to restock. Do went to best buy didn't see it on display. But I didn't ask and they had it. I heard it after I had already got my sonos amd was way passed time to return so yeah. The 990 isn't bad from what I heard. But I feel sonos better quality overall so I think ill live haha.
Too bad you can't pair four of them with a subwoofer. That would make an interesting wife friendly setup imnsho.
Apparently the Q990D will only work with one frame. Well that sucks well that sucks. I wouldn’t trust the Samsung reps. They told me the new S90D QDOLED when it’s clearly not stated anywhere that it’s QDOLED. Samsung can ship you either QDOLED or non-QDOLED.
You can only pair a single frame with a non Q-symphony method (non 2024 tv) they show more than one paired on the website as animations
Bummer, I don't want a Samsung TV so this exciting development is not so exciting.
Maybe you need to watch the video again … yeah … Samsung is asking a lot to get the whole thing working
@@neverenoughtech Samsung is learning from the best - Apple, etc... tie the consumer up in their ecosystem so they're forced to use everything Samsung.
Is not just apple, they all do it..but can you imagine buying 2023 flagship gear from Samsung, and can't even use any of the music frames (except stand alone)? They really are exploiting FOMO a bit too much...I'm no fan of Sonos, but they don't alienate their own customers, as a Samsung does EVERY year.... I pity those who pay full price, otherwise I'd never buy Samsung again..however, their prices does give them a pass (Sale price! , no MSRP)
At the end of every word sounds like you are inside a straw
Yeah new setup - same mic as the other one not sure why it’s so much more breathy . Probably mic is too close
@@neverenoughtech kind of weird. Most noticeable for the first third of the video. It doesn't bother me, but I thought you might care.
@@neverenoughtechdon’t know if was ask but how about the new LG S95TR vs the new Q99OD? I have a new LG was thinking of returning my Q990C what’s your opinion?
So you bought them but not much testing explained here. I'd love to see / hear the setup. I'd love to hear and buy this but I don't have room to put rear speakers form the 990d setup (My couch is in the middle of the living room).
It’s meant to be an explainer video. I’ll have a dedicated review. Still don’t have the frames they are coming two weeks later than expected
@@neverenoughtech Oh awesome then looking forward. If you used the previous versions (990c etc.) is it totally okay without using the two rear ones?
I still feel an option for an extra sub would have been more relevant on a new model. 120hz pass thru is good for serious gamers, but not movie fans. Great review 🙃