Damn first stumblng across messir and now you? thats two amazing flyout creaters in a month. I hope I can learn more about this community because these videos are fascinating.
This looks amazing, I wish I could build in this game at all since I do not wish to acquire an aerospace degree to play my precious nerdy plane game. All around great video and hope to see more content like this.
@ oh I honestly expected this to be from someone with some sort of background in it from how high fidelity it is. (Also my building may or may not be due to my lack of a think called patience :))
Yup, youre condemned to be a flyout creator now :) I has subscrib The timelapse is neat, though I think you could use more on screen references to the topic you're covering, and make the timelapse a dedicated part of the video, seperate from the narration
Ooh, on the information part though. I'm no plane goddess, but both MiG-29 and Su-27 lack trust vectoring. The Flanker did get the technology much later on an upgrade, the Su-35, but that is not how they achieve their supermaneuverability - they do so through aerodynamic instability. The blue side of the curtain focused tremendously on BVR, beyond visual range combat. Their aircraft were, save for the F-16, not built with dogfighting at the forefront of their capacities (though it was very much still a requirement; but you will hear most US pilots tell you today that "if you got to the merge, something went wrong".) The MTD Eagle was, I believe, a test bed for the technology we find today on the F-22 Raptor, which does feature thrust vectoring. On the other hand, the red side of the curtain ABSOLUTELY focused on dogfighting and WVR, within visual range combat. Both of their post cold-war workhorses, the Flanker and Fulcrum, as you did mention, are supermaneuverable, but simply by design- They are built like the F-16 was: intentionally aerodynamically unstable, meaning that separation of airflow over the wings is easier (that is how they can achieve angles of attack of 70+ degrees). The doctrine is also observed in their experimental aircraft too, notably the Su-47 Berkut, the forward-swept wing prototype which was another step in favor of supermaneuverability.
You did mention the difference between aerodynamic maneuverability and supermaneuverability - but the issue is that the later term is pretty muddy. A proper compassion would have been aerodynamic maneuverability and post-stall maneuverability, as the term "supermaneuverability" has been used extensively by aircraft manufacturers yet has no concrete definition. (There is no single statistic you can reach to declare your aircraft "officially" supermaneuverable. Though being able to perform high-aoa maneuvers such as the Kvochur Bell, or it's simpler version, the Cobra, is generally a pretty good starting point - Making the J-35 Draken a supermaneuverable aircraft too, despite very much lacking thrust vectoring.)
I will however note that fighter aircraft designed today with supermaneuverability in mind absolutely include thrust-vectoring. It is just vastly superior than to simply relying on aerodynamic instability (and I believe both methods are used anyway, as the Raptor, I believe, has low/relaxed stability too.) All in all it's just a small mistake, but I like nerding about things I love 💜
@@Fightre_Flighte I researched a bit, and sources kinda contradict. Some say it has low/neutral stability, others mention a very slight unstability. The term "relaxed stability" is thrown around a lot when describing it so it's the one I used
Thank you for the shoutout! And I wish you the best of luck when it comes to making your videos in the future!
yeah! i know you need the clout because im definately so much more popular than you XD
Bro I'm so glad there's more flyout creators
Even more unhinged messier it's amazing
@@GamingGremlin21 youre the second person whoes said thatr and i love it XD
Smaller UA-camr with absolute banger videos that appeal to my tism appearing randomly on my feed????? I’m overjoyed
tism pals 😎
shut up.
Damn first stumblng across messir and now you? thats two amazing flyout creaters in a month. I hope I can learn more about this community because these videos are fascinating.
wobnam that builds planes!!!. subscribed
yes, i am wobnam :3
It is, Acceptable.
You live to see another day.
hoo. thank fuck :3
messier 82 but a bit more unhinged 🤑🤑🤑
(just found your channel and i like what im seeing so far keep it up!!!! :3)
a bit more unhinged? your definitrion of "a bit" and my definition of a bit are very different XD
This looks amazing, I wish I could build in this game at all since I do not wish to acquire an aerospace degree to play my precious nerdy plane game. All around great video and hope to see more content like this.
im a 17 year old highschool dropout, if i can do this trhan you can XD
@ oh I honestly expected this to be from someone with some sort of background in it from how high fidelity it is. (Also my building may or may not be due to my lack of a think called patience :))
Yup, youre condemned to be a flyout creator now :)
I has subscrib
The timelapse is neat, though I think you could use more on screen references to the topic you're covering, and make the timelapse a dedicated part of the video, seperate from the narration
tbh i didnt actually really care abt the plane, i was just kind of listening to his voice, its so amazingg!!
*her
Ooh, on the information part though.
I'm no plane goddess, but both MiG-29 and Su-27 lack trust vectoring.
The Flanker did get the technology much later on an upgrade, the Su-35, but that is not how they achieve their supermaneuverability - they do so through aerodynamic instability.
The blue side of the curtain focused tremendously on BVR, beyond visual range combat. Their aircraft were, save for the F-16, not built with dogfighting at the forefront of their capacities (though it was very much still a requirement; but you will hear most US pilots tell you today that "if you got to the merge, something went wrong".) The MTD Eagle was, I believe, a test bed for the technology we find today on the F-22 Raptor, which does feature thrust vectoring. On the other hand, the red side of the curtain ABSOLUTELY focused on dogfighting and WVR, within visual range combat. Both of their post cold-war workhorses, the Flanker and Fulcrum, as you did mention, are supermaneuverable, but simply by design- They are built like the F-16 was: intentionally aerodynamically unstable, meaning that separation of airflow over the wings is easier (that is how they can achieve angles of attack of 70+ degrees). The doctrine is also observed in their experimental aircraft too, notably the Su-47 Berkut, the forward-swept wing prototype which was another step in favor of supermaneuverability.
You did mention the difference between aerodynamic maneuverability and supermaneuverability - but the issue is that the later term is pretty muddy. A proper compassion would have been aerodynamic maneuverability and post-stall maneuverability, as the term "supermaneuverability" has been used extensively by aircraft manufacturers yet has no concrete definition. (There is no single statistic you can reach to declare your aircraft "officially" supermaneuverable. Though being able to perform high-aoa maneuvers such as the Kvochur Bell, or it's simpler version, the Cobra, is generally a pretty good starting point - Making the J-35 Draken a supermaneuverable aircraft too, despite very much lacking thrust vectoring.)
I will however note that fighter aircraft designed today with supermaneuverability in mind absolutely include thrust-vectoring. It is just vastly superior than to simply relying on aerodynamic instability (and I believe both methods are used anyway, as the Raptor, I believe, has low/relaxed stability too.)
All in all it's just a small mistake, but I like nerding about things I love 💜
wikipedia lied to me than XD
@@kaisrae
IIRC, the F-22 is also aerodynamically unstable.
You didn't ask, but I saw the question.
@@Fightre_Flighte I researched a bit, and sources kinda contradict. Some say it has low/neutral stability, others mention a very slight unstability. The term "relaxed stability" is thrown around a lot when describing it so it's the one I used
Unironically when you explained the knigge bein system i though "thats briliant why didnt i think of that" for soem reason😂
its Knickebein but allso real XD
The sponsor convinced me, so henlo
henlo :3
@@StarlingHK Btw, i love your design, it's unique, I also think this'd be a great fighter bomber like the vietnam era jets
@@StarlingHK also, OUCH MY EYES, I WAS WATCHING IN PITCH BLACK DARKNESS, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
this reminds me of the su 34. nice build
Are we getting more videos? (This is a threat😳)
i- fuck, i guess i have to now
Here after wanting more M-82.
"Fuck ass words" Will live rent free in my head until the end of time
damn, realy cool video!😄
Feel like it turned into more of a air superiority plane lol
Messiar 82 Ah Ah vibes
Let me know how you feel about this different style of video!
odd request, but a supersonic passenger flying boat. i.e the P192 on steroids.
absolute budcheeks
6:13 did she say "ice cream systems" or am I tripping? 😂
*she
@StarlingHK woopsi.
brother
good work brother
just upload the vidos faster then messier82 brother
by brother
i dont know wether to feel flattered or insulted by being called brother XD
0:36 😂
N-no way... Another sister??... Into milsims??? 💜💜💜💜💜
YES!?!?!?!? HOW YOU KNOW????
@@StarlingHK I WASN'T SURE SO I CHECKED YOUR TWITCH BIO 💜💜
101st sub :)
WHAT???? IM AT 100 SUBS?????
why does your multirole strike aircraft need supermaneuvrability?
ill alswer your question with another question. why does it need to be non supermanuverable?
does it have flares/chaff?
yesh
@@StarlingHK *bitchin' betty voice* CHAFF FLARE CHAFF FLARE
What's the music in the beginning? Thanks!
i honestly dont know, i just searched up "ncs lofi"
1:07 average german naming xD
darling, my love, why are our people like this XD
And why I font see Your videos on featured on Discord? Thats a disgrace!
Sorry