@@ValentinParkourGaming Ah I live in South Korea. Since CN/KR/JP shares some of chinese characters, I can assume the Chinese characters from Korean version. btw, amazing video as always!
Agree with Nagakiba. As soon as I got it, my mind was blown with how elegant and fast can you be. No cheap tricks, you learn how to work it around and you can be a beast. Underrated
So is this based solely off pvp for the nagakiba? Because rivers of blood and moonveil do way more damage to bosses atleast in my time playing the game.
@@hayvanejones8791agreed! i use the nagakiba with the uchigatana (dual wield) and it's disgusting. The moveset is so good and with blood flame blade and flame, grant me strength, it shreds
I love the moonveil man it’s my favourite katana and I’m also in love with the rivers of blood but the amount of toxicity around using both in pvp really turns me off it the amount of hate mail i’ve gotten while using these weapons is crazy so i just switched to bloody helice
@@billyray6210 Don't let them stress you bro. I make Hybrid builds on every Fromsoft Game. Actually every RPG that allows it. I made my Battle Sage long before I knew Moonveil existed and while I've changed my weapons on and off there's no shame in using whatever. Besides, Moonveil is easy to dodge and if they can't that's cause they suck
For me Moonveil is simply S+ just because of how easy you can get it early. You can even go there at lvl 1 Samurai class and get it right away by defeating the boss, which isn't hard because of how easy it is to memorize it's attack pattern. (might get a few tries). Compared against something like Rivers of Blood or Malenia's Katana.
I think my favorites are either serpantbone or dragonscale, both are really good in terms of visual design but it adds some uniqueness in the katana list, not only giving us a frost lightning infused death machine but a poison debuffer which make a fun and interesting combo when paired. (Guess I’m a fan if the weaker stuff)
I like Meteoric the most, but I use it on a strength build and 2H it. It's really easy to roll catch people with the R2 when they're pulled in by the AoW. Srength/Int is one of my more favored setups. I'm a little shocked with Hand of Malenia's rating. The ash of war is pretty bad. I like Sperpentbone because of the R2. It always triggers the damage on successive attack talismans.
yh tbh I think Malenias one at best is only B tier, doesn't deserve to be up with the likes of uchigatana or RoB ash of war is extremely situational in both pve and gameplay lmao
To start, I only play PvE myself. I had to do at least one playthrough with a character named Miyamoto Musashi and using two katanas, I believe I used all of them throughout the playthrough at one point, but the Dragonscale and Meteoric Ore blade were two of my favorites. Using the Wakazashi dagger that powerstances with katanas also made the build more interesting.
@vngxrd GUTS GS with focus on Str/End/Vig. Golden Vow. Flame Grant Me Strength. Lion's Claw Ash of War with Heavy affinity. Blood Flame Incantation. Starscourge Talisman, Radahn Soreseal, or axe talisman. You will make all of Elden Ring your bitch. Easily the strongest build I have made up until mid game. At level 40 you will be stance breaking and killing every boss with a few Lion's Claws or heavy charged attacks. And best of all.. all of this can be acquired within a couple hours of starting a new playthru, along with enough smithing stones to +15 the sword. Simply OP build. Early game put the strength tear and the faith tear in your physick. This will give you the faith needed to cast the incantations and you'll be hitting like a truck. Golden Vow Ash of war is not as good at the incantation but will serve you well placing it on a dagger until later game and it can be acquired very early game along with everything else I have listed.
If you actually want to be like Musashi, you don't need to powerstance two katanas, but rather use a katana with vakizashi (a dagger that looks like a short katana and powerstances with them). That's what his actual dual wielding technique looked like, and actually Okina pretty much represents Musashi in the game, as he also uses vakizashi in pair with rivers of blood.
As a Katana user through and through, I really enjoyed your list, and I'd say I'm in agreement with most - maybe toilet tier was a bit harsh for the bone blade 🤣🤣🤣🤣. It needs too much to be a day to day katana, and that's why the Uchi and Naga are my go to. Thier versatility is just bonkers. For PVE I use Uchis and in the arena dual nagas all the way.
Lol yes this is exactly what I told myself after the video was over ^^ Toilet is a bit harsh, but at least it was funny right :) thanks for your sweet message :)
you're telling me that I found the strongest katana in the game in the most random way possible and I didn't even know it, I absolutely have to get to 20 dexterity
The serpent bone blade had been my favorite katana since I got it and almost had me change my build during my first play through. It looks almost like a rapier with the intricate guard with an elegant savagery once you see the spines and such in the details if the weapons design. And it feels like a SWORDSMENS weapon, no overpowered ash of war, no dummy long range. Just you, your blade, some poison, and your moveset. I love this weapon
@Valentin Gaming Athlete ofc ofc lol, you just helped me remember a hole in my knowledge. Foreman is tied for my favorite fighter of all time. And the number one guy I would never want to get hit by
Nagakiba is the GOAT!!! Half of my first playthrough was with this beast, until I realized that I've always been into the strength heavy build. I thought I could escape DS3 by going dex in Elden Ring, but strength build will always be in my heart. But I still use the nagakiba from time to time, and infuse it with whatever incantations and ashes of war. It is really fun!
This tier list series is one of the best sources of weapon info out there! Would love to see you make a tier list of collosal greatswords! They are my favorite weapon type in every darksouls game and now in elden ring!
I did a run with Meteoric Ore Blade recently and was pleasantly surprised. despite it only having only a "C" scaling in strength it was getting 500 physical damage without buffs on just a basic strength build. Plus the unique R2 is great at breaking enemy's posture, this weapon destroyed all main game bosses in only 4 hours from a fresh save! Its not the best katana but I'd say at LEAST B teir.
Only correction I have about rivers is that at launch it’s scaling was broken. It wasn’t until it’s scaling was fixed in a later patch (1.0.4 if I’m remembering it right) that it became a monstrous weapon that made people break controllers.
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@@Rust_BKT Look Who is talking ! I have just stole the intro of PVP skillz, if you look at his videos, mine are pretty much copy pasted form his videos
I actually ended up doing a katana run partly inspired from your tier list that I just finished. Ironically I ended up using the Dragonscale Blade throughout the majority if not the entire run lol. I am honestly starting to think it is a underrated gem. Like you said in your list, the Dragonscale Blade buffed with it's AoW ends up being one of the hardest hitting katanas of them all and this thing was taking chunks out of boss and player health bars. Combined with a procced frostbite, I don't think people understand just how much damage this blade is capable of dealing. I'd say it can even outperform bleed procs and was very useful against (the few) enemies immune to bleed. It's range can be a bit annoying at times, but even as the second shortest it really isn't much shorter than the golden standard uchi. I won't deny that the Dragonscale Blade still suffers especially when compared to the gods that are Nagi and Moonveil, but I do feel like Dragonscale Blade isn't getting enough credit either. I'd say it could fit nicely C-B tier. And maybe even A tier when bleed gets its eventual nerf. But that is my take right now. Now time to try Serpentbone Blade :D
Fun fact about the serpent weapons' poison, (the katana, fists, shield), can be strong poison. The game doesn't tell you, but the poison can be more aggressive than standard poison, like an in-between of regular poison and scarlett rot. (Side note: the fists with bleed, paired with a rot weapon is a good snowballing combination)
These thumbnails are godly, also the uchigatana works great for pure strength builds as it gives you an A scaling on the heavy affinity and has a small dex requirement. loved the video :D
In Patch 1.10 the Katana got a slight boost (maybe not all of them, not sure). I play exclusively PVE. These tier ratings are always PVP ratings as if that's all that matters. The Nagakiba is by far the best Katana. I use Incantations to pair with specific enemies (Bloodflame is my favorite) but also use various greases. The range is awesome. It is also perfect for mounted combat because of the range. I use Double Strike for its AOW as I find it proc's Bleed faster (might be my imagination but I also like how it looks and that matters too). Moonveil is my second favorite. I use it in my main hand about 40% depending on the enemy. Meteoric Ore Blade definitely has its place as well. Gravitas followed by heavy attack is often the answer to a problem. The off hand is paired with a katana. Usually Uchigatana but it may vary. ...\
@@ValentinParkourGaming The Nagakiba is S tier for pve with incantations to fit the occasion. Moonveil also fits the bill but its shorter length makes the difference for me. I like Moonveil for dealing mobs/hoards that risk overwhelming me, the AOW cuts a nice path. Rivers of Blood just isn't the sword it used to be so A tier. Bloodflame on the Nagakiba does more damage I think.
Super impressive video! It was so interesting hearing the background and inspirations for the katanas. I had no idea the power stance moveset was inspired by someone. Very fascinating.
Uchigatana SAVED MY LIFE when I struggled against Godrick. The bleed effect is what truly makes the weapon, and it can stagger some man sized enemies easily if you land a five hit R1 combo. I was able to get early game souls farming in Caelid because of it, so I was eventually able to completely melt Godrick’s health. 🔥
Great video! I like the Moonveil better than the Nagakiba. That ash of war is just ridiculously good at deleting opponents. And the fact that it pisses people off so much is a huge bonus, lol.
@@bbyponk I don’t know, mate, seems like the people getting mad at a weapon in a video game being used are the toxic ones. Laughing at their toxicity seems like a pretty good way to deal with it.
Finally, someone else who agrees that Malenia completely lost to Radahn and only got out alive because she nuked all of Caelid. That aside, I still think my favorite katana is either the Nagakiba or Serpentbone. Powerstancing is fun with them.
@@ValentinParkourGaming Bro, he literally diced her prosthetics like warm butter, I swear if Malenia didn't use her big flower hacks to nuke an entire country, Radahn wouldn't have been cursed with Giga Aids for the rest of his life, lmao
@@ValentinParkourGaming dont forget that after her last pathetic attempt at winning failed , she fainted and was left to die covered with wounds in a pool of her blood and rot , radahn pretty much left out of pity , if not for finlay saving her she wouldve died the most embarrassing death , whenever i mention any of this on a related video to the subject i get bombarded by weebs crying.
@@ValentinParkourGaming It probably has something to do with the game outright saying as much and the fact that before she ever used the rot she impaled him to the ground like a butterfly. Radahn is the only demigod who has lost to every demigod he's fought (he got his cheeks clapped by Morgott) besides Godrick. Kinda sad ngl.
What I like is you rank according to pvp. Other channels rank using pve with summons. I play pve solo, and your ranking is closer to mine, because fighting bosses solo requires 2 things pvp needs too - speed and reach. Other channels just rank according to damage because they got a distraction bot
Might be popular opinion but I just fucking love the Rivers of Blood so much. The Ash of War on it is so cool, and even still the weapon just looks sick in general.
See alot of people fail to realize that with rivers of blood the weapon itself didn’t really get a nerf, it was primarily just it’s ash of war. ROB is definitely one the hardest hitting light weapons in the game, I’ve gotten mine to do close to about 800 AR with NO buffs at all, so if you just powerstance two of them and only use the ash of war to roll catch or surprise attack someone it’s arguably one the better weapons and one of the best katanas in the game
My first playthrough was a power stance Nagakiba/Uchigatana blood and fire build. My main strategy was to buff my Uchigatana with Bloodflame Blade and proc Hemorrhage with Double Slash. I had Bloody Slash on my Nagakiba because it deals a lot of damage and can sometimes go through shields. Fire spells were mostly for wave clearing, breaking up groups and a bit of style.
The nagakiba is a pretty good weapon all around, and so is one of the best weapons in the game. It has very good reach, intrinsic bleed, decent AR, gets access to running R2 poke, gets the fast version of ashes like spinning slash, does very quick attacks when powerstanced. Like if you need a weapon for something, chances are the nagakiba can fulfill that role pretty decently. I haven't done much pvp at all, but using a dex setup with duel nagakiba, I had a 30 win streak in the colosseum duels. I also found decent success in using a soft swap hoslow petal whip with hoarfrost stomp, since it would add more range and methods to pressure and deal damage if opponents were playing too passively.
the Meteoric Ore Blade will always have a special place in my heart because it was my weapon for my first playthrough so weapons like Rivers of blood will never compare to it.
Hand of melania is my favorite :) I just love that it take skill to land attacks in pvp especially with waterfowl dance! In my opinion they probably should’ve made it stronger initially but for what it is I just love it!
I really want to use the moonveil for NG+3 and beyond, but Moonveil falls off due to bosses getting a buff in HP for every new playthrough (stops scaling at NG+7), so I'll stick with rivers of blood and nagakiba.
Man your vids are top tier! Super entertaining ro watch! Nice work! Now I ain't a katana guy but Nakakiba is my pick. Although i love my rob swap for the bleed prock.
@@ValentinParkourGaming by the way great tier list, I have to say your rankings were on point. Most of my first new game pluses (the first 2 to be exact) were katana builds and I kinda ran the whole game only for katanas. Personally I enjoy the versatility of the nagakiba and its range. Currently on new game +5 with rivers of blood. What's your favorite overall?
Did you make the little animation on the side that displays for the AoW? I've never seen it in game and its pretty cool. Reminds me of how they show the moves in DMC5 lol
I adore the Serpentbone blade, but I sadly think you summed it up pretty well. It has a gorgeous design and an amazing heavy and the deadly poison makes it an actually useful weapon, but it cant escape the bottom tiers with its poor build up. I think it would be an amazing niche if it had even a small bit of arcane scaling to increase the build up.
I use Nagakiba and Moonveil in both hands. Nagakiba on right hand with Bloodhound Step and Moonveil on left hand. People recognize the Moonveil and expect the skill spamming, and then they see you disappearing all of the sudden and lose their minds. And when they less expect it, you dualhand Moonveil and do a ranged finishing blow with the skill. 10/10 best magic Shinobi experience in Elden Ring.
Agree with the list. However on much higher NG+ PVE, it is tested that Moonveil declines performance as enemies get tougher while using ROB or bleed builds still get the consistency since the status works on enemy HP in percentage. If I had to choose which is better between Nagakiba or Moonveil on the later NG+s, I'd go with Nagakiba, and might consider ROB upping a higher tier.
Late comment, but I'm doing a samurai run now and just found this. I'm going with uchi and the dagger katana I forget the name of. Mostly because I prefer light encumbrance and need to cut corners where I can to shave weight off, so a medium sized sword with a dagger sized katana is what I'm choosing. I COULD go with Yura's weapon, but it's heavier by itself than the two weapons I plan to dual wield, combined. Ash wise, one gets impaling thrust, and the other gets storm blade as a sort of ranged attack... I've mostly run caster builds, and I simply can't handle some things in melee, like bell bearing hunter, so storm blade is my way of keeping a 'spell' handy without leveling faith or intelligence at all. So I got a gap closing shield piercer with high poise damage, and a range pressure attack, got my bases covered. Going to put in just enough into arcane and faith to use blood flame for the extra bleed, and I'll be set.
As a player who played with katanas probably the most and tried most of them. I have a few things i would like to mention which are either my personal experience or just something i do/use because i just love it. Disclaimer: I am a PVE player and i dont really mind the PVP much and when i did fought some ppl (i have like 100+- matches behind me. I rarely lost as During that time arena wasnt in the game. And as to answer your question about my favourite ash of war, At the start when elden ring came out it was Bloody Slash but after few hundred hours i realized that Unsheath is the real king and even the damage is better (+ the stagger) When it comes to Rivers of Blood. I tried to use it and see if it was good or not before the first buff patch (1.0 player here) Unfortunately it was bad and i didnt really touch it since and never was really interested in it. Meteoric Ore blade. OH BOI this was a pleasant surprise to be sure. I was focusing the build aorund the special heavy attack (ichimonji enjoyer :D) AND MY GOD that was a really surprising dmg. I tried this katana in PVP a few times against my friend who is not a fan of PVP but i wanted to it how well does it fare. WELL with my build i was vigor checking him so hard. Every charged heavy attack that i landed instantly deleted his HP. Alongside it's big charged heavy attack dmg it also deals insane amount of Poise. For exmaple Morgot. Got stunned with 2 charged heavys and was stunned then i repeated the process and he died (as i already had +10 weapon at that time) Tree sentinel is also staggered after 2 hits. Definitely fun weapon to try. Shame it looks the way it looks(my personal view as a blacksmith on this weapon) AND NOW time for my most used and personal favourite weapon of them all, YES as a PVE player. Hand of Malenia interested me the most as a blacksmith and as a player. Altho compared to Uchigatana it cant be buffed but it's damage is enough to carry me anywhere. The range, the design and the iconic ash of war, it all blended into a weapon i love the most. The more i play with it the more i learn about the game and the weapon it self. As a hand of Malenia enjoyer i love to find the way to apply the Ash of War on every boss possible. And this is something i find th emost interesting the learning curviture and finding the window where you can pull this off. A quick thought on Serpent Boneblade, Imagine if this weapon had the same effect as Rivers of blood. WOuldnt make it much better but at least it would make proccing the strong poison better :D Yeah i still have ot reach the point to use moonveil but eventually i will get to it and build a proper PVE character around the Yamato .. i mean Moonveil. It's a famous weapon so on point in saying anythign about this. Personal point tho. I love putting on Magic resist talisman and barrier of gold to bully moonveil users xD And the time for Uchigatana. My main choice for the entire playthrough and as a Samurai you can have 2 which is the best in my humble dex opinion. Great damage, can buff the weapon with anything (faith spells especially) blood infusion is nasty or dual Seppuku(i didnt play it but i know the theory.. eww) the starting Ash of War Unsheath is so damn strong. Overall a beast of a weapon. No personal experiwence with Nagakiba except it is a longer Uchigatana but gheat for Sephiroth cosplay. Sorry for the long comment. Great video as always
from the intro dialogue to the epic intro-intro video/voiceover to the actual content. this is a quality video. in 2024 you see so much garbage, you really have to appreciate people putting in effort. dude ur good at what you're doing. well done.
Thank u so much man it means a lot. I have got inspired and pretty much copied the style of an old school youtube called PvPSkillz. Since he stopped making content since dark souls 3 I have decided to keep is work
@@ValentinParkourGaming quite admirable. Probably going to inspire someone yourself in the future. And thats the best legacy you can leave behind. Just like he inspired you. Keep it up !
Serpentbone blade is my favorite katana, I usually poison my enemies, but I do use the single katana. Its R2 is very good, if you catch opponents with it they will be very close of being poisoned. Great video.
I really think you were off on the Dragonscale Blade one. It doesn't have exceptional damage before you use its AoW, but after you do it procs frostbite really quickly, not to mention that I find its damage output after using its AoW to be one of the highest of the katanas. The lightning bolt itself kind of sucks, but it does some nice chip damage if you're reapplying the lightning and you're near the enemy. Dual wielding Dragonscale and a Bleed Nagakiba is a great way to fight Malenia.
As a Strength user whose been through many of builds lately, even doing a Guts run on my channel I must say the Moonveil looks absolutely stunning to play with! I cannot wait to do a Anime or Samurai build with that sword for my 3rd run! Awesome video friend
Yes you are right. Moonveil and nagakiba are the best. Just got my second moonveil so i am dual vielding those because i have int at 80 and i am using sorcery also.
Salut mon pote Pve je pense que tu peux utiliser beaucoup de Katana River of blood Moonveil Nagakiba Uchigatana Hand of Malenia Voici ma liste des “meilleurs” mais tu peux utiliser ce que tu veux en fait
I love the feel and moveset of the Serpentbone. The slashing is so clean. Simple and effective katana! Just power stance with a bleed katana and you're kicking ass!
Not gonna let the malenia slander slide she released the rot because she wanted to put her brother on the throne. It was a sacrifice of everything she was for his dream. Also Rahadahan would have just rebuilt the golden order because he was a Godfrey fan boy. Which kinda makes him the villain of the conflict, still a great character though.
Nah nah nah he was try to take over and he prevent the stars from moving before the war started because daddy told him to screw over the carion royals. Now I do believe he was stronger then her but she did not release the rot because she was prideful she did it as a sacrifice to defeat the strongest demigod to realize her brother's dream. The lore stats she thought she would die for the cause and everything even her pride and reputation as a warrior was worth that dream. Rahadahan is far more of a I want the status quo to remain type of character. It was a battle of tradition vs change
Yeah but u are talking about morale I am talking about skills and who is beating the ass of who Radahn is ripping through her like butter watch the story trailer again buddy. But if u wanna keep simping for this worthless and skilless b¥tch then all the power to you L’amour rend aveugle
I fully agree with your list and i think its probably the most accurate ranking of katanas of any video ive seen. I have also a question to ask, is it viable to use just one katana because power stancing looks kinda goofy.
Thanks a lot for your kind comment mr no skill gaming. Well I would say no, at least at of today, the powerstance is just superior in every way as said in the introduction. Many peopl are actually asking for powerstanced on everything to be nerfed. So maybe in a later patch it will be better or there will be some reason to go 1 hand, or 2 handed. If you use moonveil you can have a staf on the other hand. This is the only case where no powerstancing can be good.
@@ValentinParkourGaming thank you for your response. I'm really thankful for your advice. Although power stance is superior I will continue to you use the katana two handed and also give katana power stance a try.
Damn, you make Some pretty well editited and high quality video’s for your sub count. Hope you wil get bigger dude, keep it up. And also, is this Gonna be a series
Any weapon can be good if you’re good at using it. For example, Dragonscale blade. Everyone says this weapon is trash, but I decided to test that theory. NG+ 4 it carried me. It took a little bit of getting used to since I was used to the straight sword style, but once I figured out the move set and the timing of the ash of war, the damage I was able to deal with both lightning damage and frostbite was amazing. It also does a decent amount of base damage, nothing amazing, not terrible, just decent. I then paired that Dragonscale blade with ice lightning spear and dragon halberd to make a purely ice lightning build, and it was limiting since there are only three ice lightning abilities in the whole game, but they were powerful. My next play-through, I used Dragonscale in my right hand, Rivers of blood in my left hand. Bloodflame + ice lightning = absolutely terrifying.
U can beat the game with any weapon. But u cannot beat a good player with any weapon. Using dragonscale blade vs good players is almost like signing ur death sentence.
@@ValentinParkourGaming I don’t often do online, but I’ve done it. Dragonscale blade is far from the best weapon to use against a player, but I is doable. Downsides are it’s slow, it’s short, and it’s easy to dodge. Upsides I would say are, it’s powerful, frostbite, and it stuns people rather well. I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily bad, but there are better weapons to use, like the dragon halberd. Same effect, more reach, more damage, slower attack.
Whenever i feel like using katanas , i power stance with Moonveil and Nagakiba , Moonveil on main hand for the Vergil cosplay attacks and Nagakiba in off hand for the reach , Already knew they were gonna be S-tier 😂
Yoooo amazing video. Quick question, where can I find that Nier automata song that is on the backgroung when you're talking about rivers of blood at 5:00?
Moonveil and cold Uchigatana is the best power stance now, but you can als use Meteoric ore blade because it has the highest AR in the Katana category and it also scales with int just like the Moonveil good if you want to change stuff around
Nah. Rivers of Blood is still an easy S tier. Not only does it have both big importance in design for being super recognizable and is part of ER history for breaking the game with a free EZ mode… But it also has the elemental play! Use ice and mix with Rivers to proc the explosion over and over again! I hate that people got an EZ mode… but rivers is so great I even did a playthrough with it back when Arcane scalling didn’t exist!
Also. Moonveil also had a game breaking history of bringing EZ mode. It used to do INSANE posture damage! So PvE was RIP and PVP was also RIP because the standard magic damage was also higher.
yes that is the goal, to be honest I havent been super into making youtube videos lately, it takes a lot of time to do, and I have been super busy with real life stuff. Especially training, you can check it out on my instagram : instagram.com/valilou.dubois/
@ValentinParkourGaming All good I completely understand! Life can get become busy. I just wanted to let you know that your Weapon Tierlist Videos for ER are fantastic and super enlightening. By far the best on UA-cam.
Wow thank u so much my friend, it really means a lot. For pvp I haven't seen anyone putting as much work as I do. I am actually copying PVPSKILLZ editing style.
Great Video. Enjoyed it a lot. I also. Think the Nagakiba is underrated by a lot of people. Only with serpentbone blade I have a different opinion. Yes, it needs a Power up, like a poison slash wave simular to the rivers of blood, as well as a arc scaling. But you always get the poison effect working with one complete L2 attack Line, as well as 2 Hits (so 1 R2 attack) after throwing a shit pot (stinkpots?). With mushroomcrown, rotten winged insignia and the kindred of rot talisman, this is actually extremly good. If you combine this with a rotten breath (normal or special) you got 2 damage Status effects, with 32-34ish percent damage boost. And you can reaply the poison effect every 30 seconds, while it lasts as buffed Version on the enemie for 20 seconds.
I use single Fire Uchi two handed with Fire Scorpion Charm, Shard of Alexand, Blue Dancer Charm then go naked, reaching 781 ar with 80 Str The damage on Unsheathe is MASSIVE.
Love the video. Since ure a high lvl player and not everyone else is like myself, could u maybe also include in short how u play with the weapons to get the most out of them? Like on landing corpse piler, transient moonlight etc. Would love to kinda know ur thought process to being more likely to land moves and gets some tips from u how to play better :))
I think the answer to the last question depends on the use. For PvE, they go toe to toe in my opinion. Moonveil is going to make PvE a joke for anyone using it and its just so much easier not having to be in the opponents range while still dealing damage. However, nagakiba can be infused with a damage type that enemies are weak to, meaning you can exploit each boss' weakness. This is something that moonveil really lacks, especially being an int-scaling katana which means no incantations to make up for enemy vulnerabilities like ekzykes decay, poison mist, borealis' fog, agheels flame. I could see moonveil being pretty weak up against all enemies in raya lucaria and the academy, whereas nagakiba can just use a heavy AoW and switch back to any other once this area has been completed. In PvP, I think the nagakiba is much better. It's truly frustrating to not be able to close the gap with a nagakiba user because you can't run up to them, you cant roll into them carelessly, and you have no idea what ash of war is coming to get you until it does. God forbid they are dual wielding these and have 2 different AoW's.
The truth is that I would like a katana that allows you to change from ash to have the charged attack of the meteoric katana, that is what I especially love about that katana because it is much easier to break postures with it.
Nagakiba is the washing pole from dark souls 2, washing pole was pretty busted in that game too, along with chaos blade. I wish chaos blade made a reappearence in elden ring
The only problem with the Nagakiba is it's strength scaling. I do not know why Uchi gets A in heavy when Naga only gets a B. Even though it requires more strength to use
@@ValentinParkourGaming Why not, what does Dex give you other than casting speed increase and 0.2 physical DR every level? Strength will give you 0.9 physical DR every level. If you 2h it, you only need to get to 54 str so you can also get 25 faith for buffs
Rivers of Blood's original name is actually terrifying.
屍(Corpse)
山(Mountain)
血(Blood)
河(River)
"Mountains of Corpses, Rivers of Blood"
Oh how did u find the original japanese ?
@@ValentinParkourGaming Ah I live in South Korea. Since CN/KR/JP shares some of chinese characters, I can assume the Chinese characters from Korean version.
btw, amazing video as always!
안녕하세요 ! I hope you are ding well my friend thanks for your comment :)
Holy shit that's edgy and fucking badass
in Chinese version it's "Mountains of Corpses, ocean of Blood"
Agree with Nagakiba. As soon as I got it, my mind was blown with how elegant and fast can you be. No cheap tricks, you learn how to work it around and you can be a beast. Underrated
Yep, ne cheap tricks as u said
duel fire frost nagakiba is a nasty combo with AoW bloodhounds step on one
@@jeremiahjones4605That’s literally what I’m running + Bolt of Gransax and Gravel seal for range. I’m using this build for DLC
So is this based solely off pvp for the nagakiba? Because rivers of blood and moonveil do way more damage to bosses atleast in my time playing the game.
Meteoric blade will forever be my favorite, it’s the closest thing to making gravity magic viable (collapsing stars please get buffed 😭)
Oh can u tell me more about your build ? How are u making it work ? I think it is a really cool weapon ! But I had to be objective
Bro idk about you but I use collapsing stars all the time. I use it to combo moonveil or dark moon r2 and its really good for that.
wth collapsing stars is pretty good
Idk what your smoking but gravity magic is busted
Bro you must be playing elden necklace or something cuz idk wtf your talking about
I personally just love the nagakiba. I never used moonveil much. I can't get over the range of the nagakiba. It is just so much fun to play with.
Its sooo good
I actually use both, Nagakiba on right with frost effect and moonveil on left. It was pretty great!
@@arifsatrionugroho9905that is the best way to play with them aside from Dualing one of them alone.
@@weskintime4177yeah ushi is better for dual
@@hayvanejones8791agreed! i use the nagakiba with the uchigatana (dual wield) and it's disgusting. The moveset is so good and with blood flame blade and flame, grant me strength, it shreds
The thing that made me love moonveil is the design of it, being basically the frayed blade of elden ring.
Yeah it s beautiful
I miss the frayed blade heavy
Same ! I also miss parry on katana it was one of the coolest move to pull of. I also miss Gael greatsword, it was awesome
I love the moonveil man it’s my favourite katana and I’m also in love with the rivers of blood but the amount of toxicity around using both in pvp really turns me off it the amount of hate mail i’ve gotten while using these weapons is crazy so i just switched to bloody helice
@@billyray6210 Don't let them stress you bro. I make Hybrid builds on every Fromsoft Game. Actually every RPG that allows it. I made my Battle Sage long before I knew Moonveil existed and while I've changed my weapons on and off there's no shame in using whatever. Besides, Moonveil is easy to dodge and if they can't that's cause they suck
Moonveil is insane, but the nagakiba just takes the cake for me. So fun to use.
I agree
For me Moonveil is simply S+ just because of how easy you can get it early. You can even go there at lvl 1 Samurai class and get it right away by defeating the boss, which isn't hard because of how easy it is to memorize it's attack pattern. (might get a few tries). Compared against something like Rivers of Blood or Malenia's Katana.
thanks for the tip
Same thing for nagikiba-you just have to kill kira
I think my favorites are either serpantbone or dragonscale, both are really good in terms of visual design but it adds some uniqueness in the katana list, not only giving us a frost lightning infused death machine but a poison debuffer which make a fun and interesting combo when paired.
(Guess I’m a fan if the weaker stuff)
Yes they look fantastic
My only issue with how the DragonBall blade looks is that damn sheath...
@@brookemonshower2756 truuuue
I love weaker things too! Lmao! Last playthrough I did was 95% serpentbone, then started over at the end with the dragonscale. Badass weapons
Dragonscale is so good I switched to it in mid game. It is very good in PvE
I like Meteoric the most, but I use it on a strength build and 2H it. It's really easy to roll catch people with the R2 when they're pulled in by the AoW. Srength/Int is one of my more favored setups. I'm a little shocked with Hand of Malenia's rating. The ash of war is pretty bad. I like Sperpentbone because of the R2. It always triggers the damage on successive attack talismans.
yh tbh I think Malenias one at best is only B tier, doesn't deserve to be up with the likes of uchigatana or RoB
ash of war is extremely situational in both pve and gameplay lmao
agree
To start, I only play PvE myself. I had to do at least one playthrough with a character named Miyamoto Musashi and using two katanas, I believe I used all of them throughout the playthrough at one point, but the Dragonscale and Meteoric Ore blade were two of my favorites. Using the Wakazashi dagger that powerstances with katanas also made the build more interesting.
Thanks for your comment and giving us your experience
@vngxrd GUTS GS with focus on Str/End/Vig. Golden Vow. Flame Grant Me Strength. Lion's Claw Ash of War with Heavy affinity. Blood Flame Incantation. Starscourge Talisman, Radahn Soreseal, or axe talisman. You will make all of Elden Ring your bitch. Easily the strongest build I have made up until mid game. At level 40 you will be stance breaking and killing every boss with a few Lion's Claws or heavy charged attacks. And best of all.. all of this can be acquired within a couple hours of starting a new playthru, along with enough smithing stones to +15 the sword. Simply OP build. Early game put the strength tear and the faith tear in your physick. This will give you the faith needed to cast the incantations and you'll be hitting like a truck. Golden Vow Ash of war is not as good at the incantation but will serve you well placing it on a dagger until later game and it can be acquired very early game along with everything else I have listed.
If you actually want to be like Musashi, you don't need to powerstance two katanas, but rather use a katana with vakizashi (a dagger that looks like a short katana and powerstances with them). That's what his actual dual wielding technique looked like, and actually Okina pretty much represents Musashi in the game, as he also uses vakizashi in pair with rivers of blood.
Yeah the dual in real life is with a smaller katana, good call
True. All samurai carried a smaller sword along with their katana. It was also used for seppuku if that situation arose
As a Katana user through and through, I really enjoyed your list, and I'd say I'm in agreement with most - maybe toilet tier was a bit harsh for the bone blade 🤣🤣🤣🤣. It needs too much to be a day to day katana, and that's why the Uchi and Naga are my go to. Thier versatility is just bonkers. For PVE I use Uchis and in the arena dual nagas all the way.
Lol yes this is exactly what I told myself after the video was over ^^
Toilet is a bit harsh, but at least it was funny right :)
thanks for your sweet message :)
you're telling me that I found the strongest katana in the game in the most random way possible and I didn't even know it, I absolutely have to get to 20 dexterity
Yes you do ! Its true it is dropped after a random boss, it should have been a demi god boss weapon imo
Gsp doing a katana tier list is something i didnt know i needed
Yes I have decides to recycle myself into gaming ! I am indeed a big fan of Myiazaki !
for real he sounds so similar to gsp
this
The serpent bone blade had been my favorite katana since I got it and almost had me change my build during my first play through. It looks almost like a rapier with the intricate guard with an elegant savagery once you see the spines and such in the details if the weapons design. And it feels like a SWORDSMENS weapon, no overpowered ash of war, no dummy long range. Just you, your blade, some poison, and your moveset. I love this weapon
At the end of the day Dragonslayer this list is just my opinion and you should be using what you think is the most fun and cool !
@Valentin Gaming Athlete ofc ofc lol, you just helped me remember a hole in my knowledge. Foreman is tied for my favorite fighter of all time. And the number one guy I would never want to get hit by
Nagakiba is the GOAT!!!
Half of my first playthrough was with this beast, until I realized that I've always been into the strength heavy build. I thought I could escape DS3 by going dex in Elden Ring, but strength build will always be in my heart.
But I still use the nagakiba from time to time, and infuse it with whatever incantations and ashes of war. It is really fun!
U can still use it on a strength build of u want
Throw flame stroke on it, and lean into the str side
You changed it for what weapon?
This tier list series is one of the best sources of weapon info out there! Would love to see you make a tier list of collosal greatswords! They are my favorite weapon type in every darksouls game and now in elden ring!
I am actually working on it as we speak ! Many people have asked for it ! Thanks for your comment Sagit Swag !
@@ValentinParkourGaming that's awesome to hear, I look forward to it! Thank you for the incredible content!
Thanks for watching Sagit
I did a run with Meteoric Ore Blade recently and was pleasantly surprised.
despite it only having only a "C" scaling in strength it was getting 500 physical damage without buffs on just a basic strength build.
Plus the unique R2 is great at breaking enemy's posture, this weapon destroyed all main game bosses in only 4 hours from a fresh save!
Its not the best katana but I'd say at LEAST B teir.
Yeah maybe B tier , I also had a lot of fun playing with it
Would the wakizashi be considered a special mention since it can be used like a katana when paired with one?
Yeah I should have included it into it
Only correction I have about rivers is that at launch it’s scaling was broken. It wasn’t until it’s scaling was fixed in a later patch (1.0.4 if I’m remembering it right) that it became a monstrous weapon that made people break controllers.
thanks Crimson
@@ValentinParkourGaming your welcome
I answer to every comment !
Thank you guys so much for the support !
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Why are you so cool? Sick intro
@@Rust_BKT Look Who is talking !
I have just stole the intro of PVP skillz, if you look at his videos, mine are pretty much copy pasted form his videos
0:12 Bro tried to sneak Zoro in there haha
Hey hey gotta put the goat somewhere
I wish they add a odachi in the dlc. Basically Sir Alonne's sword. Would be awesome if it had a unique moveset too
What is odachi ?
@@ValentinParkourGaming ō-dachi is basically a very long katana
I actually ended up doing a katana run partly inspired from your tier list that I just finished. Ironically I ended up using the Dragonscale Blade throughout the majority if not the entire run lol. I am honestly starting to think it is a underrated gem.
Like you said in your list, the Dragonscale Blade buffed with it's AoW ends up being one of the hardest hitting katanas of them all and this thing was taking chunks out of boss and player health bars. Combined with a procced frostbite, I don't think people understand just how much damage this blade is capable of dealing. I'd say it can even outperform bleed procs and was very useful against (the few) enemies immune to bleed. It's range can be a bit annoying at times, but even as the second shortest it really isn't much shorter than the golden standard uchi.
I won't deny that the Dragonscale Blade still suffers especially when compared to the gods that are Nagi and Moonveil, but I do feel like Dragonscale Blade isn't getting enough credit either. I'd say it could fit nicely C-B tier. And maybe even A tier when bleed gets its eventual nerf. But that is my take right now. Now time to try Serpentbone Blade :D
Aha I am happy that you found some use to the list for your playthrough
This list os also more geared towards pvp
I just like how you answer every comment, it's a good and helpful video. Looking forward to more of your reviews after the DLC.
Of course it is the least I can do
Yep, I hope we have many cool weapons in the dlc
He misses a few
Fun fact about the serpent weapons' poison, (the katana, fists, shield), can be strong poison. The game doesn't tell you, but the poison can be more aggressive than standard poison, like an in-between of regular poison and scarlett rot. (Side note: the fists with bleed, paired with a rot weapon is a good snowballing combination)
Yep it is “deadly” poison, thanks for pointing it out you’re awesome
I hope to see colossal swords next.
Yep I am working on it as we speak :)
These thumbnails are godly, also the uchigatana works great for pure strength builds as it gives you an A scaling on the heavy affinity and has a small dex requirement. loved the video :D
I guess the uchi is really the goat !
Thanks Deep Speed for your comment and watching the video :)
What is the ranking based on? Dmg? looks? move set? maybe something else?
Maybe watch the video
@@p1omar I watched, now answer the question
On their PVP viableness, thanks for watching the video :)
@Valentin Gaming Athlete ok that makes sense now because pve wise this tierlist and greatsword tierlist were just rly wrong
Yes it is not a PVE tier List
In Patch 1.10 the Katana got a slight boost (maybe not all of them, not sure).
I play exclusively PVE. These tier ratings are always PVP ratings as if that's all that matters.
The Nagakiba is by far the best Katana. I use Incantations to pair with specific enemies (Bloodflame is my favorite) but also use various greases. The range is awesome. It is also perfect for mounted combat because of the range. I use Double Strike for its AOW as I find it proc's Bleed faster (might be my imagination but I also like how it looks and that matters too).
Moonveil is my second favorite. I use it in my main hand about 40% depending on the enemy.
Meteoric Ore Blade definitely has its place as well. Gravitas followed by heavy attack is often the answer to a problem.
The off hand is paired with a katana. Usually Uchigatana but it may vary.
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Ah so what u would say are the S tier Katana in pve ? Nagakiba and Moonveil ? What about River of Blood ?
@@ValentinParkourGaming The Nagakiba is S tier for pve with incantations to fit the occasion. Moonveil also fits the bill but its shorter length makes the difference for me. I like Moonveil for dealing mobs/hoards that risk overwhelming me, the AOW cuts a nice path. Rivers of Blood just isn't the sword it used to be so A tier. Bloodflame on the Nagakiba does more damage I think.
Super impressive video! It was so interesting hearing the background and inspirations for the katanas. I had no idea the power stance moveset was inspired by someone. Very fascinating.
Thanks for watching the video Logan :)
Uchigatana SAVED MY LIFE when I struggled against Godrick. The bleed effect is what truly makes the weapon, and it can stagger some man sized enemies easily if you land a five hit R1 combo. I was able to get early game souls farming in Caelid because of it, so I was eventually able to completely melt Godrick’s health. 🔥
Such a great series. I am personally not into PvP, but this tier list is also great for PvE. Will be waiting for the next video.
I am glad it can also serve my pve brother. Have a great day
What’s pve ?
@@CristianMartinez-pi4coplayer vs environment, basically just Elden ring without duels/versing other real players
Both the dragonkin weapons need passive frost build up and or lightning damage
Yeah Dragon Halberd with the confirm combo on spinning slash is now really good. But dragonscale blade is still pretty trash tbh
Great video! I like the Moonveil better than the Nagakiba. That ash of war is just ridiculously good at deleting opponents. And the fact that it pisses people off so much is a huge bonus, lol.
Lmao, yes pissing people off is always a win ^^, thanks for watching the video and commenting :)
@@ValentinParkourGaming It really is, lol.
why u wanna be toxic?
Nagakiba>moonveil
@@bbyponk I don’t know, mate, seems like the people getting mad at a weapon in a video game being used are the toxic ones. Laughing at their toxicity seems like a pretty good way to deal with it.
TBF, Naruto doesn’t completely rely on the Kurama, he naturally has a massive chakra pool, but yeah Kurama is one of his main powers
Yes of course, Kurama is really the reason why he can compete against Sasuke and everyone else at top level
Finally, someone else who agrees that Malenia completely lost to Radahn and only got out alive because she nuked all of Caelid.
That aside, I still think my favorite katana is either the Nagakiba or Serpentbone. Powerstancing is fun with them.
Of course ! I don’t understand how can people think it was a draw
@@ValentinParkourGaming Bro, he literally diced her prosthetics like warm butter, I swear if Malenia didn't use her big flower hacks to nuke an entire country, Radahn wouldn't have been cursed with Giga Aids for the rest of his life, lmao
And he beat her @ss while protecting his horse and while holding the f$king stars !
@@ValentinParkourGaming dont forget that after her last pathetic attempt at winning failed , she fainted and was left to die covered with wounds in a pool of her blood and rot , radahn pretty much left out of pity , if not for finlay saving her she wouldve died the most embarrassing death , whenever i mention any of this on a related video to the subject i get bombarded by weebs crying.
@@ValentinParkourGaming It probably has something to do with the game outright saying as much and the fact that before she ever used the rot she impaled him to the ground like a butterfly. Radahn is the only demigod who has lost to every demigod he's fought (he got his cheeks clapped by Morgott) besides Godrick. Kinda sad ngl.
What I like is you rank according to pvp. Other channels rank using pve with summons. I play pve solo, and your ranking is closer to mine, because fighting bosses solo requires 2 things pvp needs too - speed and reach. Other channels just rank according to damage because they got a distraction bot
Exactly solo is the best way to play imo. ! Thanks for your message and watching the video !
Might be popular opinion but I just fucking love the Rivers of Blood so much. The Ash of War on it is so cool, and even still the weapon just looks sick in general.
Yep it is a super cool weapon, especially if you are a weeb like me !
See alot of people fail to realize that with rivers of blood the weapon itself didn’t really get a nerf, it was primarily just it’s ash of war. ROB is definitely one the hardest hitting light weapons in the game, I’ve gotten mine to do close to about 800 AR with NO buffs at all, so if you just powerstance two of them and only use the ash of war to roll catch or surprise attack someone it’s arguably one the better weapons and one of the best katanas in the game
Yep it is amazing really but people read nerf and just never use it. So stupid
My first playthrough was a power stance Nagakiba/Uchigatana blood and fire build. My main strategy was to buff my Uchigatana with Bloodflame Blade and proc Hemorrhage with Double Slash. I had Bloody Slash on my Nagakiba because it deals a lot of damage and can sometimes go through shields. Fire spells were mostly for wave clearing, breaking up groups and a bit of style.
The nagakiba is a pretty good weapon all around, and so is one of the best weapons in the game. It has very good reach, intrinsic bleed, decent AR, gets access to running R2 poke, gets the fast version of ashes like spinning slash, does very quick attacks when powerstanced. Like if you need a weapon for something, chances are the nagakiba can fulfill that role pretty decently.
I haven't done much pvp at all, but using a dex setup with duel nagakiba, I had a 30 win streak in the colosseum duels.
I also found decent success in using a soft swap hoslow petal whip with hoarfrost stomp, since it would add more range and methods to pressure and deal damage if opponents were playing too passively.
Very good strategy ! thanks for your comment Prashant !
the Meteoric Ore Blade will always have a special place in my heart because it was my weapon for my first playthrough so weapons like Rivers of blood will never compare to it.
Yep it is always a special bond that is created with the wepaon you beat the game wiht, for me it was bloodhound fang
@@ValentinParkourGaming I haven't beat the game on the save yet because I did the attributes terribly but it carried me through the whole game.
Hand of melania is my favorite :) I just love that it take skill to land attacks in pvp especially with waterfowl dance! In my opinion they probably should’ve made it stronger initially but for what it is I just love it!
Yep u gotta u use what u love the most no matter the ranking
Our favorite.
I really want to use the moonveil for NG+3 and beyond, but Moonveil falls off due to bosses getting a buff in HP for every new playthrough (stops scaling at NG+7), so I'll stick with rivers of blood and nagakiba.
You can also just use moonveil for fun
Man your vids are top tier! Super entertaining ro watch! Nice work! Now I ain't a katana guy but Nakakiba is my pick. Although i love my rob swap for the bleed prock.
Thanks a lot Tony, it means a lot coming from you ! I am glad you enjoy them, I put a lot of work and love into them
Cool intro montage, I really loved the quotes from multiple demi gods being used
Thanks a lot for watching the video Yonnash :)
@@ValentinParkourGaming by the way great tier list, I have to say your rankings were on point. Most of my first new game pluses (the first 2 to be exact) were katana builds and I kinda ran the whole game only for katanas. Personally I enjoy the versatility of the nagakiba and its range. Currently on new game +5 with rivers of blood. What's your favorite overall?
I agree with every single one of these points but I haven't tried the serpentine blade yet and it looks cool!
It is cool, just not very good
Did you make the little animation on the side that displays for the AoW? I've never seen it in game and its pretty cool. Reminds me of how they show the moves in DMC5 lol
No I stole them from elden ring wiki
I adore the Serpentbone blade, but I sadly think you summed it up pretty well. It has a gorgeous design and an amazing heavy and the deadly poison makes it an actually useful weapon, but it cant escape the bottom tiers with its poor build up.
I think it would be an amazing niche if it had even a small bit of arcane scaling to increase the build up.
I use Nagakiba and Moonveil in both hands. Nagakiba on right hand with Bloodhound Step and Moonveil on left hand. People recognize the Moonveil and expect the skill spamming, and then they see you disappearing all of the sudden and lose their minds. And when they less expect it, you dualhand Moonveil and do a ranged finishing blow with the skill. 10/10 best magic Shinobi experience in Elden Ring.
Just wanted to give you praise for the intro! Elegant editing and hyped up the katanas fairly well!
Thank u very much snoms for the kind words
Agree with the list. However on much higher NG+ PVE, it is tested that Moonveil declines performance as enemies get tougher while using ROB or bleed builds still get the consistency since the status works on enemy HP in percentage.
If I had to choose which is better between Nagakiba or Moonveil on the later NG+s, I'd go with Nagakiba, and might consider ROB upping a higher tier.
Thanks a lob Ana, yeah I like Nagakiba better too, although having spells is really making moonveil amazing
i find it interesting caelid holds a lot of eastern weapons, the naginata, wakizashi, meteoric ore blade and the moonveil
Now that u mention it, it is very true
Caelid is in the east in lands between - solved
Late comment, but I'm doing a samurai run now and just found this. I'm going with uchi and the dagger katana I forget the name of. Mostly because I prefer light encumbrance and need to cut corners where I can to shave weight off, so a medium sized sword with a dagger sized katana is what I'm choosing. I COULD go with Yura's weapon, but it's heavier by itself than the two weapons I plan to dual wield, combined. Ash wise, one gets impaling thrust, and the other gets storm blade as a sort of ranged attack... I've mostly run caster builds, and I simply can't handle some things in melee, like bell bearing hunter, so storm blade is my way of keeping a 'spell' handy without leveling faith or intelligence at all. So I got a gap closing shield piercer with high poise damage, and a range pressure attack, got my bases covered. Going to put in just enough into arcane and faith to use blood flame for the extra bleed, and I'll be set.
I hope u have fun with the rest of your samurai run
Nagakiba primary and Rivers of Blood in off hand is my go to. Sometimes I use hand of malenia for nagakiba
Good combo
Another Valentin banger 💯. Great work as always bro ur the best elden ring pvp content creator. Edits are amazing
Thanks a lot this is a super sweet comment ! I am just copying the blueprint of PVP skillz. Thanks again for your super support :)
As a player who played with katanas probably the most and tried most of them. I have a few things i would like to mention which are either my personal experience or just something i do/use because i just love it.
Disclaimer: I am a PVE player and i dont really mind the PVP much and when i did fought some ppl (i have like 100+- matches behind me. I rarely lost as During that time arena wasnt in the game.
And as to answer your question about my favourite ash of war, At the start when elden ring came out it was Bloody Slash but after few hundred hours i realized that Unsheath is the real king and even the damage is better (+ the stagger)
When it comes to Rivers of Blood. I tried to use it and see if it was good or not before the first buff patch (1.0 player here) Unfortunately it was bad and i didnt really touch it since and never was really interested in it.
Meteoric Ore blade. OH BOI this was a pleasant surprise to be sure. I was focusing the build aorund the special heavy attack (ichimonji enjoyer :D) AND MY GOD that was a really surprising dmg. I tried this katana in PVP a few times against my friend who is not a fan of PVP but i wanted to it how well does it fare. WELL with my build i was vigor checking him so hard. Every charged heavy attack that i landed instantly deleted his HP. Alongside it's big charged heavy attack dmg it also deals insane amount of Poise. For exmaple Morgot. Got stunned with 2 charged heavys and was stunned then i repeated the process and he died (as i already had +10 weapon at that time) Tree sentinel is also staggered after 2 hits. Definitely fun weapon to try. Shame it looks the way it looks(my personal view as a blacksmith on this weapon)
AND NOW time for my most used and personal favourite weapon of them all, YES as a PVE player. Hand of Malenia interested me the most as a blacksmith and as a player. Altho compared to Uchigatana it cant be buffed but it's damage is enough to carry me anywhere. The range, the design and the iconic ash of war, it all blended into a weapon i love the most. The more i play with it the more i learn about the game and the weapon it self. As a hand of Malenia enjoyer i love to find the way to apply the Ash of War on every boss possible. And this is something i find th emost interesting the learning curviture and finding the window where you can pull this off.
A quick thought on Serpent Boneblade, Imagine if this weapon had the same effect as Rivers of blood. WOuldnt make it much better but at least it would make proccing the strong poison better :D
Yeah i still have ot reach the point to use moonveil but eventually i will get to it and build a proper PVE character around the Yamato .. i mean Moonveil. It's a famous weapon so on point in saying anythign about this. Personal point tho. I love putting on Magic resist talisman and barrier of gold to bully moonveil users xD
And the time for Uchigatana. My main choice for the entire playthrough and as a Samurai you can have 2 which is the best in my humble dex opinion. Great damage, can buff the weapon with anything (faith spells especially) blood infusion is nasty or dual Seppuku(i didnt play it but i know the theory.. eww) the starting Ash of War Unsheath is so damn strong. Overall a beast of a weapon.
No personal experiwence with Nagakiba except it is a longer Uchigatana but gheat for Sephiroth cosplay.
Sorry for the long comment. Great video as always
Don’t be sorry for the long comment, thanks a lot to share your persoective and watching the video :)
from the intro dialogue to the epic intro-intro video/voiceover to the actual content. this is a quality video. in 2024 you see so much garbage, you really have to appreciate people putting in effort. dude ur good at what you're doing. well done.
Thank u so much man it means a lot. I have got inspired and pretty much copied the style of an old school youtube called PvPSkillz. Since he stopped making content since dark souls 3 I have decided to keep is work
@@ValentinParkourGaming quite admirable. Probably going to inspire someone yourself in the future. And thats the best legacy you can leave behind. Just like he inspired you. Keep it up !
Serpentbone blade is my favorite katana, I usually poison my enemies, but I do use the single katana. Its R2 is very good, if you catch opponents with it they will be very close of being poisoned. Great video.
Aaaah I didn t know about this technic, thanks for letting me know !
@@ValentinParkourGaming well idk if technique is the word, i just really enjoy the unique r2.
Yeah it looks so cool
I really think you were off on the Dragonscale Blade one. It doesn't have exceptional damage before you use its AoW, but after you do it procs frostbite really quickly, not to mention that I find its damage output after using its AoW to be one of the highest of the katanas. The lightning bolt itself kind of sucks, but it does some nice chip damage if you're reapplying the lightning and you're near the enemy. Dual wielding Dragonscale and a Bleed Nagakiba is a great way to fight Malenia.
Honestly I hope we get more Dragon weapons because the two we have I like a lot
As a Strength user whose been through many of builds lately, even doing a Guts run on my channel
I must say the Moonveil looks absolutely stunning to play with!
I cannot wait to do a Anime or Samurai build with that sword for my 3rd run! Awesome video friend
Yeah you will have a lot of fun !
Nicely edited video!
Love katanas , definitely my fav weapon class. Nagakiba is the GOAT!!
I am happy that you enjoyed it ! thanks for your comment Schnitzel
How to quickly switch between weapons and props in the inventory bar?
Switch while running 4:08~4:38
It is called Hard Swapping
You can watch this video from Jeenine where he explains how to do it !
my favorite ash of war for my katanas are either double slash (depending on how long the blade is) or storm or storm caller
Great choice my friend !
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Great video! can you please tell the song you used when reviewing rivers of blood!
There are 2
Mohg theme synthewave
And Kaine acapella ua-cam.com/video/-8AVgrwKziA/v-deo.html
why is no one talking ab this mans editing skills?!? ur so entertaining to listen to and watch bro!
Thanks a lot buddy ! I love your profil pic :)
Yes you are right. Moonveil and nagakiba are the best. Just got my second moonveil so i am dual vielding those because i have int at 80 and i am using sorcery also.
Yep I love moonveil personally
Salut! évidemment, ce video est concentré a propos PvP, mais j'ai une question a propos PvE. Quelle katana est le meilleur pour PvE 'endgame', SVP ?
Salut mon pote
Pve je pense que tu peux utiliser beaucoup de Katana
River of blood
Moonveil
Nagakiba
Uchigatana
Hand of Malenia
Voici ma liste des “meilleurs” mais tu peux utiliser ce que tu veux en fait
I’m sorry but what’s the music during the meteoric ore blade intro ? Nice video btw thank you 🙏
You don’t have to be sorry
Thanks for watching the video !
Its 100 years war from berserk : ua-cam.com/video/ZnlYiCUbfbA/v-deo.html
I love the feel and moveset of the Serpentbone. The slashing is so clean. Simple and effective katana! Just power stance with a bleed katana and you're kicking ass!
Yeah if you like it then use it, you should use what u think is fun, not I think is good
I was already using both of those S tier katanas before I watched the video. Love them both
Not gonna let the malenia slander slide she released the rot because she wanted to put her brother on the throne. It was a sacrifice of everything she was for his dream. Also Rahadahan would have just rebuilt the golden order because he was a Godfrey fan boy. Which kinda makes him the villain of the conflict, still a great character though.
She release the rot because she sucks balls and Radahn was whooping her “@ss while protecting his horse and hpreventing the stars from moving
Nah nah nah he was try to take over and he prevent the stars from moving before the war started because daddy told him to screw over the carion royals. Now I do believe he was stronger then her but she did not release the rot because she was prideful she did it as a sacrifice to defeat the strongest demigod to realize her brother's dream. The lore stats she thought she would die for the cause and everything even her pride and reputation as a warrior was worth that dream. Rahadahan is far more of a I want the status quo to remain type of character. It was a battle of tradition vs change
Yeah but u are talking about morale
I am talking about skills and who is beating the ass of who
Radahn is ripping through her like butter watch the story trailer again buddy.
But if u wanna keep simping for this worthless and skilless b¥tch then all the power to you
L’amour rend aveugle
I love the Nagakib because... Sephiroth!!!
Yep it is definitely the Masamune !
I fully agree with your list and i think its probably the most accurate ranking of katanas of any video ive seen. I have also a question to ask, is it viable to use just one katana because power stancing looks kinda goofy.
Thanks a lot for your kind comment mr no skill gaming.
Well I would say no, at least at of today, the powerstance is just superior in every way as said in the introduction. Many peopl are actually asking for powerstanced on everything to be nerfed. So maybe in a later patch it will be better or there will be some reason to go 1 hand, or 2 handed.
If you use moonveil you can have a staf on the other hand. This is the only case where no powerstancing can be good.
@@ValentinParkourGaming thank you for your response. I'm really thankful for your advice. Although power stance is superior I will continue to you use the katana two handed and also give katana power stance a try.
People: Do Yura's world quest to get Nagakiba
Me who got it by just killing him: 🙂
Yeah u can just kill him I guess ^^
Damn, you make Some pretty well editited and high quality video’s for your sub count. Hope you wil get bigger dude, keep it up. And also, is this Gonna be a series
Thanks Dr Hobber. I don't really care too too much about the sub count, I am more happy that people enjoy my work
You really make the best weapon reviews out there man.
Thanks a lot Calvin. Chrightt is also making very good weapon review but he is a little less entertaining.
Valentin: "Moonveil doesn't have much lore associated to it."
Vergil: "Foolishness, Valentin... Foolishness."
lmao ^^
Any weapon can be good if you’re good at using it. For example, Dragonscale blade.
Everyone says this weapon is trash, but I decided to test that theory.
NG+ 4 it carried me. It took a little bit of getting used to since I was used to the straight sword style, but once I figured out the move set and the timing of the ash of war, the damage I was able to deal with both lightning damage and frostbite was amazing. It also does a decent amount of base damage, nothing amazing, not terrible, just decent. I then paired that Dragonscale blade with ice lightning spear and dragon halberd to make a purely ice lightning build, and it was limiting since there are only three ice lightning abilities in the whole game, but they were powerful.
My next play-through, I used Dragonscale in my right hand, Rivers of blood in my left hand. Bloodflame + ice lightning = absolutely terrifying.
U can beat the game with any weapon. But u cannot beat a good player with any weapon. Using dragonscale blade vs good players is almost like signing ur death sentence.
@@ValentinParkourGaming I don’t often do online, but I’ve done it. Dragonscale blade is far from the best weapon to use against a player, but I is doable. Downsides are it’s slow, it’s short, and it’s easy to dodge. Upsides I would say are, it’s powerful, frostbite, and it stuns people rather well.
I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily bad, but there are better weapons to use, like the dragon halberd. Same effect, more reach, more damage, slower attack.
Great video pal, subscribed
Whenever i feel like using katanas , i power stance with Moonveil and Nagakiba , Moonveil on main hand for the Vergil cosplay attacks and Nagakiba in off hand for the reach , Already knew they were gonna be S-tier 😂
Yep you knew before watching the video what waere the best katanas
Yoooo amazing video. Quick question, where can I find that Nier automata song that is on the backgroung when you're talking about rivers of blood at 5:00?
Thanks Victor
It s here : ua-cam.com/video/XYPv2FelMNE/v-deo.html the best version of Kaine
@@ValentinParkourGaming Thank you so much!
You're super welcome, have a great day
what armor are you using? that looks sick
Its mostly the Night’s Cavalry chezt
Which two Katana do you think it’s best to pair in power stance? I use Moonveil and a cold infused Katana, usually with the freezing mist ash of war.
Moonveil and cold Uchigatana is the best power stance now, but you can als use Meteoric ore blade because it has the highest AR in the Katana category and it also scales with int just like the Moonveil good if you want to change stuff around
Dual Nagakiba !
Or what you are doing seems like a great idea !
@@ValentinParkourGaming After watching this video I was thinking of running dual Nagakibas.
Try it and let me know how you like it !
I disagree but that's ok, why would moonveil and cold be th ebest powerstance katana ?
Nah. Rivers of Blood is still an easy S tier.
Not only does it have both big importance in design for being super recognizable and is part of ER history for breaking the game with a free EZ mode…
But it also has the elemental play! Use ice and mix with Rivers to proc the explosion over and over again!
I hate that people got an EZ mode… but rivers is so great I even did a playthrough with it back when Arcane scalling didn’t exist!
Also. Moonveil also had a game breaking history of bringing EZ mode.
It used to do INSANE posture damage! So PvE was RIP and PVP was also RIP because the standard magic damage was also higher.
This ranking is based on pvp not pve
One of my favorite parts of this was your description of Malenia. Glad someone isn’t praising her like everyone normally does
Of course, I believe she is overhyped for no apparent reason. I think people simp for her because she is naked in her 2nd phase
nakigiba is so good amazing double slash with blood amazing dragon communion seal and high arc and high dex and become unstoppable!
Ooof that sounds brutal
Awesome vid. Btw what gear are you wearing? Namelet the chest, boots and arm pieces?
Chest is Night’s Cavalry
Head I probably have the black hood
@@ValentinParkourGaming ty. I think hands and feet are bull goats
Yes or prelates, I change sometimes
You gonna do the rest of the weapon classes? There are a few missing? Or am I wrong?
yes that is the goal, to be honest I havent been super into making youtube videos lately, it takes a lot of time to do, and I have been super busy with real life stuff. Especially training, you can check it out on my instagram : instagram.com/valilou.dubois/
@ValentinParkourGaming All good I completely understand! Life can get become busy. I just wanted to let you know that your Weapon Tierlist Videos for ER are fantastic and super enlightening. By far the best on UA-cam.
Wow thank u so much my friend, it really means a lot. For pvp I haven't seen anyone putting as much work as I do. I am actually copying PVPSKILLZ editing style.
Great Video. Enjoyed it a lot. I also. Think the Nagakiba is underrated by a lot of people.
Only with serpentbone blade I have a different opinion. Yes, it needs a Power up, like a poison slash wave simular to the rivers of blood, as well as a arc scaling.
But you always get the poison effect working with one complete L2 attack Line, as well as 2 Hits (so 1 R2 attack) after throwing a shit pot (stinkpots?).
With mushroomcrown, rotten winged insignia and the kindred of rot talisman, this is actually extremly good. If you combine this with a rotten breath (normal or special) you got 2 damage Status effects, with 32-34ish percent damage boost.
And you can reaply the poison effect every 30 seconds, while it lasts as buffed Version on the enemie for 20 seconds.
Yeah I see what u mean Ritas, but the ranking is based on pvp mostly ^^. If it was pve serpentbone would be A or B tier
I have elenoras pole blade and I am in the capital city area should I get a different weapon or keep my current weapon?
You should use whatever you find fun and cool
I use single Fire Uchi two handed
with Fire Scorpion Charm, Shard of Alexand, Blue Dancer Charm then go naked, reaching 781 ar with 80 Str
The damage on Unsheathe is MASSIVE.
i am pretty that this is illegal !
What armor sets do you recommend for Dex builds ? White Reed with raptor armor ?
Any armor it doesnt matter
Love the video. Since ure a high lvl player and not everyone else is like myself, could u maybe also include in short how u play with the weapons to get the most out of them? Like on landing corpse piler, transient moonlight etc. Would love to kinda know ur thought process to being more likely to land moves and gets some tips from u how to play better :))
Thanks for your comment Reboklonklang
U can watch my other videos where I do commented duel, u can probably learn a thing or 2
I think the answer to the last question depends on the use. For PvE, they go toe to toe in my opinion. Moonveil is going to make PvE a joke for anyone using it and its just so much easier not having to be in the opponents range while still dealing damage. However, nagakiba can be infused with a damage type that enemies are weak to, meaning you can exploit each boss' weakness. This is something that moonveil really lacks, especially being an int-scaling katana which means no incantations to make up for enemy vulnerabilities like ekzykes decay, poison mist, borealis' fog, agheels flame. I could see moonveil being pretty weak up against all enemies in raya lucaria and the academy, whereas nagakiba can just use a heavy AoW and switch back to any other once this area has been completed.
In PvP, I think the nagakiba is much better. It's truly frustrating to not be able to close the gap with a nagakiba user because you can't run up to them, you cant roll into them carelessly, and you have no idea what ash of war is coming to get you until it does. God forbid they are dual wielding these and have 2 different AoW's.
Very good analysis. Obviously I was talking about pvp since the ranking is based on pvp.
The truth is that I would like a katana that allows you to change from ash to have the charged attack of the meteoric katana, that is what I especially love about that katana because it is much easier to break postures with it.
Yep ! Honestly I dont understand why u cnanot change the ash of war on meteoric. If u could it would be a or b tier
Nagakiba is the washing pole from dark souls 2, washing pole was pretty busted in that game too, along with chaos blade. I wish chaos blade made a reappearence in elden ring
I wish we had the midir katana in Elden RIng :)
I also wish for a katana for revery build, like an arcane dex katana, and a faith dex katana
The only problem with the Nagakiba is it's strength scaling. I do not know why Uchi gets A in heavy when Naga only gets a B. Even though it requires more strength to use
Yeah but if you use a katan why going for a strength build ?
@@ValentinParkourGaming Why not, what does Dex give you other than casting speed increase and 0.2 physical DR every level? Strength will give you 0.9 physical DR every level. If you 2h it, you only need to get to 54 str so you can also get 25 faith for buffs
What helmet are you using during the rivers of blood gameplay
I think it is the Black Knife Hood