2022 Lynx RAVE RE Full Snowmobile Review
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- FINALLY! Check out what Luke's FULL REVIEW of the 2022 LYNX RAVE RE. Tons of action and lots of insight here after being the first to ride this sled in North America!!
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This was actually pretty much what I expected this sled to be like. My biggest question, of course, was how well would it do these things for the price. Well, I gotta say, from this review, I definitely think this is worth it for those looking for a sled with these kind of handling characteristics. Having had a Polaris Pro X myself at one point, I can attest to the merits of a sled like that. That said though, I think, for me anyway, I'm still a bit on the fence about this sled. At least for now, when compared to some current north american sleds overall.
Thanks for another great review. Very informative as usual.
Great comment and thank you!!
Ted, thanks for the great comment. I’m always looking for my sleds to handle like a supercar, and I’d tend to think the RAVE is a little more like a stadium truck.
This is the fastest trailsled you can buy. Made in Lapland, at Rovaniemi Finland. Other brands just dont compare to it, you have to modified them to get to the same level or even close. Greetings from a sledhead at Finland.
I rode one today. I was bottoming it out on the lowest shock setting on some big hits. It doesn't need to be softer. It is like riding a dirtbike through big bumps. It transfers like crazy, it doesn't have turn on a dime front bite, it takes some body english to make it perform. It's the most playful fun sled I've ridden. I have a 2020 backcountry xrs which I love, but the rave is next level fun
You guys just keep pumping out great videos thank you
Thank you!!
I for one appreciate the content you guys are pushing out showcasing the Lynx. It’s great to see more options in the market and, although I’m a Polaris guy, this thing looks great and I’m sure will appeal to those it’s designed for.... Thanks for the great work ST!!! Keep it up!
Thank you!!
Like here in Finland we always wonder why the Polaris guys are driving so slow😅
You can literally take even a 2012 Lynx Rave with PPS1 skis here and win enduro or sprint race with it! You guys would be suprised what kind of beating they get here in Finland trails!
Finally a suspension that bigger guys can use without taking shocks off and having them revalved. Wonder what price tag comes with it???
$20,199.00 CAD starting price.
@@ryangenge5970 wholy 💩💩💩💩💩
I agree..can’t wait for the sled..
They are cheaper here in europe. Here they are like 16,500$ meanwhile in the us around 18,000$
@@Mostromstunt well yea, cuz the Euro is worth more
Both my neighbor and myself put our money down on the 23 Rave Re. This will be my first BRP product and I'm excited to see how it performs.
It’s a race edition we want a sled that you can actually pound on unlike the rest of these warmed over trail sleds. Xrs and xcr are not valved heavy enough for fast people. This is what i have been waiting for. I put one together last Wednesday and checked it all out. Was very impressed I wrote my check for snow check.
I dont know who these "fast people" are that need a sled valved stiffer than an XCR for riding in most places in north america. Maybe tug hill or somewhere like that. But for the majority of riders, the XCR is valved just fine. Manufacturers cant make sled JUST for the %5 of people who want to smash bumps all day long. Thats why the lynx is valved too stiff. At ZERO clicks of compression damping, I (at 235lbs) can pound the biggest bumps I can find with this sled and not bottom it out at all. If this sled was valved with the softest setting at %50 compression damping there would be lots of room to make it softer for those who want it that way AND lots of room to make it even stiffer for those who need that.
I'm one of those "fast people" I have to take my shocks off my xrs and have them re valved stiffer before I even ride it. All because a bunch of weak trail riders couldn't handle the xrs or old.
@@jbsrev8 You are a minority and are the one who SHOULD have to get your shocks revalved. Manufacturers shouldnt be building sleds ONLY for guys like you because most guys (and girls) ARENT like you. The Rave is so much more than just a big bump sled. It handles better than a G4 and is more comfortable to ride. Doesnt make sense to make it so stiff ONLY guys like you will enjoy it. With that said, my comment about revalving it so it will work for EVERYONE still stands. It doesnt have to work only for you or only for me.
@@pavmentsurfer13 buy the xrs then don't buy the lynx, if people like you just kept buying x packages instead of complaining about how stiff the xrs was everyone would be happy.
@@jbsrev8 I dont know why im bothering, but the lynx isnt a renegade. It doesnt handle like one, or feel like one to ride. I prefer the lynx. Thats why "just buy an XRS then" isnt the answer. But I see that only you can be right. So Ill bow out now. No point in flogging a dead horse.
easily best sled reviews in this channel!!! i would like to see just driving video on this sled if not too much asked.
I wasn't going to get a new sled this year but this thing seems like the cats meow
I own the 2020 Lynx Xterrain 900T with the PPS2 rear KYB46 (front and rear), they need to be broken in before you feel their true potential, they are VERY tiff, in the beginning, my option they need to be ridden minimum 500 km before they are broken in, with my driving style much more say 1000 km. That's why even in the "comfort" setting they still feel hard if they are not broken in. The best is to start in comfort setting then after "awhile" you can adjust them to the Standard setting and they feel very good. But they last for a long time, I have now 3500 km in Std setting + 2 clicks more rebound on my second season and they still perform well. I will service them after the season is done. Great shocks!
I actually experienced this. We put 1000km on the lynx we had in only 10 days. Almost all of it was with me on board. I did the test ride segment at about the 600km mark which is when I made my %40 softer recommendation. By the time we gave it back, my opinion had changed. I still think it should be valved softer. But only %25. Not %40. The shocks definitely broke in some.
That suspension is so awesome.
I think the big difference here is that at least some of us in Scandinavia see snowmobiling in a bit different way than you guys do in North America. I mean, I'm a sunday sledder and the last sled I rode was a rental Rave RE 600 two years ago, but still I prefer riding the sled 3 hours in the biggest bumps I can find instead of going for all day long trip on smooth trails. If I had to drive for all day I'd probably go for a bit smoother and ''passive'' ride than the Lynx, but for the way I like to ride an active riding style and a bit stiffer suspension setup is better since nothing frustrates as much as a too smooth and bottoming out ride when you want to go max attack. And max attack in big bumps is where the PPS really shines. Just my opinion.
Also, most of us in Scandinavia doesnt have much choice when it comes to trails, 90% of our trails are bumpy as hell and nothing like americas groomed trails. That's probably why so many people ride Lynx and also why it's so common to see aftermarket Ohlins shocks on every other sled out for sale.
@@H4nssoon Fully agree and me having a polaris(wait a year and not anymore) I just ride on all shocks on max stiffnes and ride on bottom out mode...Thats why we need lynx
Ive cracked the runningboard and subframe plus bent one shock...bumpy trails are to much fun!
PPS2 is 3300 and PPS3 3500. I haven't ridden the 3500 long but I suppose it simply provides better traction in accel and braking and could be a bit more stable in higher speeds due to the greater length, but the downside is probably that it is a bit less nimble in slow-speed trails. And a lot of finnish trails are very narrow and slow. The geometric differences between PPS2 and PPS3 are, as far as I know, very minimal. Not sure about the stock suspension settings, they might be more enduro/snowcross-oriented in the Enduro.
@EVOVIISWE pps 2 is an older version, if i remember correctly, they changed the placement of some components in the skid and made it a bit stiffer or something like that. There is changes but not that noticeable
@EVOVIISWE It is an older version but the differences are very few compared to the PPS3. I think the 850 definitely adds to the playfulness of the sled, but would it be quicker on the rough trails than a 600? I wouldn't be so sure.
i think you made the lynx rave justice, can't wait for a boondocker ds to come into your hands!
Just got done ordering mine.😃
October can’t come soon enough.
Awesome! Got to check one out this afternoon. Looks absolutely incredible. I'd love to trade up to one too.
This can bring back riders in the trail!
You should send your shocks to some good shock specialist and you would get a massive improvement for the setup. Some progressive pistons and springs would change a lot. Its very common in Finland that fast riders will get some modifications for the Rave RE shocks.
It sounds like it'd be perfect for our Alaskan trails, like the ones behind Big lake where the Iron Dog runs through. All too often the stock shocks on sleds are WAY too soft for aggressive riding on much of our trails up here. I have buckled a lot of tunnels and destroyed a lot of rear suspensions because of not having stiff enough suspension.
Totally agree! It sounds like Team CC is looking at racing the Lynx in the Iron Dog next year.
It might be a good machine for the Iron Dog. But I think they have a 600 cc limit unless that has changed.
@@tomyeahright9684 lynx will provide 600cc race sleds for iron dog. There was actually plans for a Lynx team to race in iron dog 5 years ago, but the rules didn’t allow for lynx to participate because it wasn’t sold in the North America.
Beauty looking sled looks great bashing those big bumps. My 2016 pro x was a monster but I’ve always loved skidoo might have to finally switch back now. Great work guys
Just sounds and looks like a fun sled. Love the vids guys
How I feel about my 19 assault. Gotta work it to make it do what you want but will lift the skis when and wherever I want. No I’m not as fast as my trail buddies but to me it’s more fun to try and be as fast and yet doing wheelies and ripping 1 ski doing so. Maybe switching to lynx is the new thing ??
Well I’m one of those fast guys that can ride at a pace that most could not comprehend. I races moto cross on quads and dirt bikes for 20 years. Iv got a little experience. I know that sleds are valved for the 90% that will probably never use all the travel other than big holes or bottoms of hills.
I’m just saying this sled was built for me the guy that wants to buy it and ride it not send shocks out to get them to fit me.
I currently have a 2021 xcr and it’s definitely not stiff enough. Rear suspension is maxed out.
I ride a lot of very high speed stuff and for most part xcr does it. Also just came off a ski doo 850.
I’m a master ski doo technician for a living so it would just be natural for me to ride a BRP product but was having hard time finding a doo with proper seat position. That’s where the axis came in. Love the seating and standing position. It’s as close to dirt bike as it gets. Like it even better than the new matrix.
So when I got the rave in a week and a half ago now I inspected it to see what they did with motor mounts and they are indeed summit mounts. Box 1 checked. The running boards are beefy check 2. Shocks are the highest end of what a sled has came with box stock. Check 3. FYI I would spend 6k on just suspension back in the day to make a quad competitive in the pro am/ expert class.
The seat is the rite height for me and is firm. Check 3
Looked over rear skid and it is indeed like a Polaris rush rear but within a skid not the same but very similar. We all know rush was to pound bumps.
After I looked at all the things the lynx had addressed from its sister company I said I need one do the paperwork and I wrote the check.
This is the sled for the hard core rider not the one who wants that sofa feeling.
Don’t buy it if you want a straight trail sled.
Should be market as it is race edition. Not race stickers like the rest do then valve them for a groomed trail.
Xrs is not what it use to be. This is gana fill the needs of the hard core guy.
Now, Jason Whiteman, That is how your write a review! Honest and truthful. Well done!
I will buy what I want, so Polaris or Ski doo name does not mean I buy their brand. The " dirt bike analogy" is the perfect way to describe the ride. I had the Axis and rode the Matryx and the xrs in all lengths. The axis was the "dirt bike" feel and ride and as you stated. The Matryx has advanced that platform. Ski Doo xrs rear suspension seems more plush but will not corner as well as the Polaris Matryx or even the Axis. This is an unbiased opinion and when I can get a ski doo buddy to try the Polaris they agree, They still stay with ski doo brand most of the time but they agree.....we all have our reasons and loyalty. Buy what you want and ride.
I own both the xrs and matryx now and have bought 12 ski doo and 6 Polaris sleds. So I am not bashing any brand. For handling trails in the upper northeast the Polaris Matryx or the Axis is the better trail sled. Ski doo has a more plush rear suspension and great ski lift when wanted.
So my one question to you, Jason Whiteman, is do you feel as though the lynx platform mirrors the Matryx? You do like the seat height but will you need to add a riser to stand? I am 5ft 11 with a 30 inch in seem! short legs and long torso and 180 pounds ( not that anybody cares, lol) Just asking Jason for his input...I can tell he knows his sh..t!
I "see" it to be almost the same, helping the "dirt bike rider" style. Especially for us longer torso guys who like to stand, but always need to add a riser, in my case the 8 inch rox on my last 6 sleds. I even put it on my axys and that is a "dirt bike" ride.
So hit me with your thoughts/recommendations because as of now I prefer the Matryx over my xrs. I did not ride a linx but trying to get to a dealer next week giving demos Thanks!
@@robertlabonte6092 so I think they did a little shorter riser because it is better for corners. I know that everyone try’s to go taller and I use to do the same on bikes and quads until I learner for speed in corners and for ultimate control the little lower bar hight keeps you in control better.
The closer the rider triangle the better within reason. Obviously the larger your frame the bigger the triangle.
If the bar hight gets too high you start loosing control easier and get thrown off balance into a danger zone. Keep your triangle rite and you can ride like a mad man.
Great review Luke and STT great job great info like always....
Thank you!!
Rode one and put a deposit down for the spring order. 👍😀
thanks for the great vids.....cant wait to see you on the west coast of newfoundland again
Thank you!!
I would say keep the KYB pro 40 shock valving the same. We live in a completely different environment in Nunavut compared to southern folks. Ungroomed trails and hard packed snow. Those shocks and that PPS skis is perfect for up here.
The pro 46s are valved so that at full soft they would probably work fine for you. This means they are too stiff. Riders such as yourself SHOULD be riding with the compression clickers set higher than zero. Moving the soft setting to %50 would give riders like you lots of room to stiffen it up even more, but give riders who dont run huge bumps all day the ability to soften it up as well. It doesnt have to be one way or the other.
Great....Now im wondering...LOL...I am a Pro X owner and I LOVE my Pro X SB!! It is the best big bump sled to date...IMO...Now in your opinion, what's the better big bump sled, for playing in the drifts, ditches, road approaches, moguls, and just flat out playing....And then how do the 2 compare in the trails between the 2015 Pro X SB vs. Lynx Rave RE?? Great video!
This is not a great sled in deep snow. It jumps amazing and, as stated, handles the biggest bumps better than anything else ive ever ridden. Its better than a prox in the bumps.
@@pavmentsurfer13 Wow...ok...Thank you! I am very interested in this sled! I love how my Pro X handles and rides. Probably have to re valve.
Ive had both. Lynx Rave all the way for trails. You can hit it 100kmh/60mph in the ditch, bounce up in the air like a kangaroo, and keep going like nothing happened.
Great video. Sounds like it's as polar opposite as can be from the new smart shox set up from Ski doo next year. Both set ups will be great for the right riders.
I have a feeling we will see a lot of these on the trails next year. Seems like a sled Taylor made for Tug Hill. I’m a Polaris guy but have to admit that’s a nice looking sled can’t wait to see one in person.
Tug Hill Eh .. Your just across the pond from me then. I just went to look at it today at the dealer.Pictures do it no justice.Also worked out a deal. Might be pulling the trigger this week if all goes well :-)
@@Jay98ca so did you get the lynx? And if so what do you think of it?
@@duckdestroyer2412 Yes I did. I picked it up 2 weeks before xmas.I've only taken it for a short run in a field.mother nature hasn't cooperated here yet.But thats about toe change on Monday finally. From my short time on it. I have a good feeling its going to be a fun sled to ride.Its my first time on a sled since 1999. And first time on a rider up style. I used to won seadoo's and love the feel of this sled already . Cant wait to break it in and get some miles on it.
Sold!
A brp sled with a different "finnish"? 😂
We get it Luke, you’re excited 😝
Lol, I tried my best.
Would love to see a review on the lynx boondock and do a comparison to the polaris khaos.
Great review of a great sled.
Test rode it yesterday and loved it.
It's definitely not a sled for everybody and you need the right type of trails and terrain to really enjoy it.
Super playful and just fun to be on.
I don't really think I would be able to appreciate its benefits on the type of trails that I ride. I'm constantly in a corner or a curve , Very little open terrain.
Still think the smart shocks on a XRS is better choice for me.
The comparison video between the XRS and the rave was excellent and very informative.
Can't wait for some reviews on smart shocks.
I assume the dealers haven't gotten any for demo yet.
Thanks for all the great videos always counting on your opinion and experience
Great review keep them coming
Thank you!
Picking mine up Wednesday
Surprised there was no critique on the headlight. Good suspension for the big guys.
Though I’ve never rode this sled I bet any rider that weighs 200 pounds or more and rides aggressively would love the stiffer valved shocks and there are a lot of riders in the U.S. like that. I love the uncoupled skid on my Rush Pro-S with XCR track shocks but with the stock shocks it bottomed too easily. Rider style and weight play a huge role in suspension compliance. Even if you don’t ride aggressively and weigh 250 or more this would probably be a good trail sled for you just my guess.
I weight 235lbs. Our sled is set FULL SOFT. I cant get it to bottom out. I rode the biggest bumps I could find as fast as I could ride. The suspension works incredible, but its just too stiff if a guy my size can ride that hard and not bottom it out. The current soft settings should be at %50. That way smaller riders or people who want a softer ride can soften it up, but bigger guys or guys who want to pound bumps all day can still stiffen it up. It doesnt have to be one way or the other. Simply adjusting the valving would make this sled work for everyone.
@@pavmentsurfer13 u also said the 137 VR1 Was a good ride and at 215lbs the skid was either to soft and bottoming out or it was to stiff where u feel every little washboard bump in the trail. Im done with Polaris after trying 2 ProS sleds A indy XC and Maytrx vr1 , every sled needed 5-800$ in shock valving and spring work. Time for Polaris to dump Walker Evans cause they are junk. And then the constant bearing failure in the wheels cause of no caps on wheels, and the 2 crank method to start the sled, wtf, my 06 doo sdi fired right off every time with no problems and no DET lights. Its 2021 and Polaris can't make a sled start and Not DET and eat spark plugs, im over it. Moving on
I ride in the green mountains of Vermont and I am always in a curve or a corner...
The MXZ XRS with smart shocks will kick this thing's butt...
Everyone rages about the motor, but it's the same motor we have!
It definitely has killer looks....
But I think it will beat you up if you ride it a 100 miles on rough curvy trails...
I think it would be fun to play with but that's all...
Its actually great on curvy trails. Id take it over a skidoo for sure. Weve tested smart shocks now and its a great feature, but its not changing how the sled handles in some wildly drastic way. Sled rides great for sure. But handling is very similar to the non smart shock sled.
@@pavmentsurfer13 Thanks for the Response...
I guess for this year I'm putting my money into a renegade 600r competition package...
It's a great value and the type of trails I ride and the way I rip around, it'll fit my needs.
I'd like to put some time in on the lynx.
Looks likes he had some fun😃
Make it softer.. Haha, here in Finland general complaint is that oem shocks are too soft and bottoms all the time. Fast guys revalve them harder...
I think rave re's have been quite suitable for my riding. A bit on the soft side but I'm not fast. I have really old (-11) 800 xtrim boondocker and had to buy 46hlcr to the front skid because the original didn't hold up on the big moguls. And by the way the first boondocker is basically a trail sled. Really bad in powder but great on trail. New ones seem to beat the heck out on both.
For the rave: it gets better the faster you drive. Just aim the top of the moguls for the front skid shock. 3500 is really nice for smaller high frequency bumps. It floats over the bumps at lower speed. Even the 3300 had to ride 70-80 to be comfortable in high frequency bumpy trail.
Ive found out how hard it can be ridden. But the trails here arent like those in finland. There is no need for it to be THIS stiff. A simple revalve for sleds sold in north america would make this sled WAY better for us. I understand you guys ride differently, so the sleds built for your market can be left alone.
I have ridden it too, I hope Lynx doesn't listen to ST and soften the suspension that's the whole point of this sled stiff compliant suspension, buy an XRS if you want softer suspension. I'm tired of watered down North American suspension.
Wouldn't worry about it too much. Nobody listens to us.
@@snowtrax In this situation that is good! haha
See, your not thinking this through though. I dont disagree that this sled SHOULD be capable of being set up VERY stiff for people who want to ride it SUPER hard. But im 235lbs and ive had this sled set to FULL soft from day one and I CANT get it to bottom out. That means its TOO STIFF. These shocks are super adjustable and have a wide range of adjustability. If the current soft setting was moved to %50, riders who want a super stiff ride could bump it up even more than where it is now, but riders who want a softer ride would have some adjustment too. With shocks like these ones, it doesnt have to be one way or another.
The reason you wouldnt just "buy and XRS is you want softer suspension" is because the lynx doesnt handle like an XRS at all. It handles better. Believe it or not, this sled is more than just a big bump sled. It makes a GREAT trail sled. Be a shame to just write it off as one thing when its capable of being so much more.
I don't think you're thinking this through thoroughly, this is the same sled that sold throughout Scandinavia and several other European countries, you don't hear any of them whining about the valving being too stiff (Hat's off to them, I guess they must be better riders than us NA guys :-/ ) Also you're riding a brand new sled, the suspension and shocks still have to have time to break in, the suspension will get softer smoother as they do. And as you not bottoming on your day long ride, maybe you weren't riding the sled as hard as you think you were, It happens a lot of times to most people. I've seen ST reviews before of past rave reviews XRS suspended sleds and the suspension on those are jokes (poorly sprung & poorly valved) You can bottom those sleds all day long if that your goal. All the North American manufacturers make great sleds with compliant soft smooth riding suspensions, you have more than enough different models to choose from if you want softer valve suspension. There's a group of riders who really do want a overly stiffly valved sled. Trails around me resemble snocross tracks come Sunday. Let’s hope Lynx keeps the hardcore crowd happy and keeps them valved firmly If it's not your cup of tea look elsewhere.
I seen about 8 LYNX at Algongquin Equipment in Sudbury Ontario off of NOTRE DAME Ave. They have a NEW LOCATION
Everyone has been asking for xrs, Xcr sleds to be valved like they’re suppose to be. The manufacturers valved them soft to appease the trail fairy’s and now they’re too soft. Leave this sled alone and valved stiff. It’s the fairy’s fault if they want a soft ride and didn’t understand the marketing for the sled.
90% of riders want an xrs because the better shocks offer a smooth ride on long days out on the trail. The super aggressive riders are going to be a lot more willing to revalve shocks than old rich guys who just want a smooth ride. Skidoo knows their market
@@calebm.5698 Yep and Lynx serves the other market, wich means they shouldnt make em soft. You americans will be gettin the fun of agressive riding one day...just wait for it
And the xrs shocks arent better, they are different. Soft and weaker does not mean better.
@@gryyta9617 xrs shocks have gotten worse over the years.. at one point it was the actual race sled with a trail motor. Now it’s just too soft. My BC-XRS was good but the shocks didn’t do the sled justice. Also, the 46mm shocks would be a massive upgrade over the sub par 36mm currently on it.
Actually no, everyone hasnt been asking for that. SOME people are asking for that but the reason those sleds are valved the way they are is because the VAST majority of riders want the sleds to actually ride well.
I like that you have deemed anyone who doesnt want to run whooped out trails all day "fairys". Thats a really reasonable attitude to have. Anyone whos not like you is a Fairy. Have you ever, once in your life, stopped to consider that just MAYBE you DONT represent the majority of riders? You dont by the way.
I am 235 lbs. I ride hard and fast most of the time. With this sled set to FULL SOFT. Compression clickers at ZERO, I couldnt get it to bottom out on even most whooped out, gnarly trails I could find. What does this mean? IT MEANS ITS TOO STIFF!!!!
The current soft settings should be at %50 compression. That way REAL, awesome, hardcore riders like you can bump it up so the suspension doesnt move at all and the girls all faint due to your manliness. But the Fairys can have it ride reasonably well the way most riders actually like it.
Agree 100% if you want a soft suspension don’t buy an XCR or XRS. The manufacturers should take it even a step further and let you spec out different spring rates and valving at snowcheck. Rider weight and style is different for everyone for the amount of money your spending why not let the buyer chose what they want.
I WANT ONE
Great content!! Question for you guys, I currently have a freeride 137 850 and was thinking of going with the lynx rave re and putting a 1.75 or 2 inch track on cause I ride good amount of on and off trail. Do you think the wide front end on this sled would make it poor of trail or is it still pretty nimble?
Finallyyyyy!
Good review ! people want to know the price tag. those top of the line shocks are not cheep they act shocked when they see the price tag bet lots of people will think they need this sled and over buy and never come close to riding it to it limits most like the stickers and to say they have the shocks and look cool at the burger joint 😂
I couldn't have said it better myself.
This is %100 true. The "cool factor" of owning a lynx will sell alot of these sleds to average riders who will never come close to using it to its full potential. But this is why the shocks need to be revalved. Im 235lbs and with the clickers set to zero, I cant bottom it no matter how hard I try. Knowing that some people will ride it hard and some people will ride it easy, the sleds sold in north america should have the current soft settings move to %50 so theres room to soften it up or stiffen it up to suite all types of riders.
What a trick. Saturday upload.
Pulled a little sneaky on you.
@@snowtrax was waiting for it and you didn’t disappoint Luke. I agree that softening up the shocks 40% would probably sell more units, however I hope they don’t. This is a sled that as you have described quite well, isn’t for the faint of heart. I’m not a small guy, but love to shred on and off trail. ‘Most’ people would say that the pro-36’s on the BC-XRS are plenty enough but for the guys that push those shocks to the limit know it’s not fun finding those limits. To me anyways, I hope they keep this thing the beast that it is and maybe ‘expand’ next year by bringing more compliant shocks over with their other model offerings.
Good job and thanks on the Rave Re coverage so far! But please, should be valved 40% softer!? Don’t ask them to make this sled into something it’s not. I’m thankful the market has something like this atm and don’t go ask them to make it into some wimpy thing like the current xrs sleds are valved like.
my indy xcr will do all these things with ease and it rides awesome
Newer Pro X was only in the Axys chassis.
Calling this "not a skidoo" is like saying " a Sierra isn't a Silverado". While correct in literal terms, it's basically a renegade XRS with proper suspension.
😂😂😂😂
I ordered one because of the shock package. If it was valved softer or had lesser shocks I would not have made the purchase. The RR, XRS and XCR have been made too soft for anyone who actually pounds on their sleds
I haven’t seen snowtrax reviews on the 21 model doos with ras x so not sure if that improved the handling or if it’s the lynx, but either way, you know this is a great sled if snowtrax had no complaints about the handling and their only complaint was that the suspension is too stiff, which in that case you’re better off just getting a ski-doo anyway.
We did a review on a RAS X equipped skidoo early in the season. IMO, it didnt improve handling much at all... in some conditions it hurt it. The Lynx is totally different. It handles amazing. Its more comfortable ergonomically as well. So no, the answer to getting a softer Lynx is not to just buy a skidoo. The Lynx handles and feels totally different. If I had to choose between the overly stiff lynx and a more reasonably valved skidoo, id take the lynx to get the handling and ergonomics.
@@pavmentsurfer13 can’t argue with that!
@@pavmentsurfer13 I’d be getting the lynx myself if I were buying a new sled this season
I hope you guys review the new skidoo Mach Z
Apparently getting one this week so stay tuned!!
@@snowtrax Can you do another fun unboxing of it as well :-)
I'm from Alaska and we don't have the groomed trail, like Finland. U need the stiff shocks.
When are you doing a full ride review on this sled?? Can't wait.
Good chat, Bob. Thanks for commenting.
Awesome!
All this is fine and good but let’s see it on Salmon river rd. in Redfield NY on a Saturday evening. Nothing bad about SnowTrax but every review I keep seeing is it’s fast, or it’s playful, or it lifts the skis. My skidoo 850 can do most of that pretty darn well. I want to see this climbing onto tug hill from Snow Ridge end of weekend bumps. Some I don’t carry a linq bag because everything turns to powder bumps.
The Lynx is perfect for completely whooped out weekend bumps, eats them and doesn't miss a step
can we get the Lynx RS 600 with the consumer mill for 2023, please?
OK I know I'm being impatient.
But it's hard waiting...
The real 2022 ski doo news is the smart shock!
Unbelievable technology and should make all the difference in comfort and high performance riding....
How come nobody is reviewing it? Doesn't anyone have an MXZ with smart shocks With ride impressions...
Would be nice to hear something before Spring snow check is over...
We were first in North America with the RAVE RE, but we are still waiting on delivery of our MACH Z and apparently are also getting another sled with Smart Shox. Promise you'll be so overwhelmed with content once we receive our shipment you'll need a camomile tea and a nap on the couch with cucumber slices over your eyes.
Hey Luke,
with this sled being so new to the NA market, do you think the availability of parts will be a concern ? Something to consider when cross shopping a Skidoo.
No, most of the important parts are the same. It would be rear skid parts and bodywork. But becasue its a BRP company im sure parts will be easily accessible.
Any chance you could put up some raw riding footage
For a few seconds the first time I saw one I thought it was a arctic cat lol. Then I seen the Badge
I sure hope they don't take your advise and soften up the shocks for the cruisers. We don't need another watered down xrs or xcr. These sleds should be the stiffer equivalent of the mileage cruisers for the guys that actually like to attack the bumps.
Even if they softened it up %25 (which is my revised opinion after riding it back to back with a 2022 XCR) it would STILL be a MUCH stiffer equivalent of a cruiser. Thats my point. Softening it up a bit wouldnt hurt its big bump capabilities. We were running high and low speed compression at full soft. I weight 230lbs and it still wouldnt bottom. I couldnt find bigger bumps to test it on short of launching it off of snowbanks to flat ground (which I did, and it BARELY bottomed out).
To me if they were going the motocross feel to the sled, they went to such firm valving like a Supercross setup, Motocross would be much softer I guess that’s how I process it with my little brain
Don't let the Stiff scare u off. Its over hype! They are just use to the Polaris Too Soft bottoming out skid 🤷♂️
It's not a Rave. It is a Ra've! 😁
2022 sled of the year?
Great point! We've been talking about this sled a lot and hope it is understood that it is NOT a contender for this season's SOFTY because it is a 2022 model. Next year though, definitely a contender.
@@snowtrax oh yeah, got ahead of myself lol
So @Luke, you mentioned the Polaris Pro X, how would you say the RAVE compares to the 21 Polaris Switchback XCR 850/600 (Rush chassis) as far as ride comparisons and riding in the rough terrain as well as trail conditions?
Thank you sir!
So next year say they soften the suspension a bit for the majority of people who buy it and complain about it being too harsh. Maybe they could offer 2 trim levels, one as it sits and another for less aggressive riders, even though it’s meant for the guy who wants to pound the piss outta it. Hopefully it doesn’t get watered down like the xrs is now a days.
If you want soft buy Ski-Doo
@@markopesonen exactly what I’m saying. It’s gonna be small amount of people that want/need the cream of the crop suspension, but at least offer it. Don’t listen to people buying this sled who say “boo hoo it’s too stiff”. Save thousands and buy an X model renegade.
Is it impossible to rebuild shocks with lighter shimming in America? That is what we scandinavians do in first shock service. Some like it stiffer and some softer. Factory setting is spot on for a average weighted driver when driving bumby trails hard. Trail in this video was not bumpy!
they have 2 trim levels in finland but the one shown in the video is the softest trim
The reason the XRS is "watered down" these days is because the MAJORITY of people who bought them complained they were too stiff. SOME people like them the way they were, but most didnt. The Rave is set to full soft. Im 235 lbs and can ride it as hard and fast as I possibly can through the biggest bumps I could find and not bottom it out. The % of people who are ACTUALLY going to ride it harder that I was (not just in their imagination) is VERY VERY small. But the truth is, it doesnt have to be one way or the other. If the current soft setting was moved to %50 there would still be lots of adjustment to stiffen it up ALOT for guys who want that. But there would still be some adjustment to soften it up for those that want it softer. We CAN all just get along here.
Sooo is bombardier letting lynx be sold in north america, I'm not really sure how all that works, got any insight?
The question is would you take a Polaris matryx or the lynx?
why ask that, pick what you want based on the information haha, theyre sleds built for different scenarios
@@prisma9963 because I’m curious how they rate them side by side and what they would pick. I have a VR1 and I may order the Lynx. They are not really built for different scenarios. Both are trail sleds.
Just got done testing the 2022 Polaris XCRs. Heres my thoughts. The XCR out handles the RAVE by a pretty large margin. With that said, the Rave handles amazing, no complaints there. The XCR is just better. The XCR also rides better for typical north american trail riding. Theres plenty of adjustment to make it stiffer if you need that. But it can be setup to ride fantastic on typical trails from smooth, to sunday afternoon bumpy. The Lynx is stiff. If you dont mind stiff, or if you want to really pound bumps super hard all day, this is the right sled for you. I have a friend, tom, in pennsylvania who spends %95 of his time riding ungroomed backwoods trails that are just whooped to crap all the time. I hate riding like that. He loves it. I told him to buy a Lynx, dont think about it... just do it. He tested one for about 10 minutes and bought it. For him it was perfect. For me, on an average day, too stiff. So, long story short, id buy the XCR. In my younger years id probably have picked the Lynx. With all that said, I would HAPPILY ride a lynx every day, all winter long. Its not TOO stiff to enjoy. Not by any means.
@@pavmentsurfer13 thanks! I thought this may be the case. Definitely sticking with my VR1 then.
Agree with snowtrax here they should make the shocks softer for NA. I love my XRS because of how plush and compliant you can make it with some clicks. Best of both worlds. Let’s be honest: who is actually pounding moguls all day and needs this much shock? Btw Snowtrax are you doing a comprehensive RASX review and how it stacks vs Matryx? Curious your thoughts, thanks.
I need and want those shocks on my sled and that’s why I have one on order. Hope to pick it up any day now.
It looks like a ski doo race sled!!!
First time I've ever heard of higher center of gravity improving handling.
Not the first time the Lester’s have contradicted themselves though.
Lowest possible center of gravity isnt always a good thing. Think about all the 90s and early to mid 2000s sleds, they all have a very low center of gravity but they handle nothing like a rider forward sled. You want to sit ontop of the sled to be able to handle it and use you weight to control the movement. Compared to older models when you sit down "in" the sled and sort of just ride along without much control other than steering it.
Think they meant for this sled setup the higher ride actually helps you get the outer ski bite youd want. Thats how I took it
You werent listening. I said "higher effective ROLL CENTRE". There is a HUGE difference between the centre of gravity and the roll centre of the sled. The new Skidoo G4s with the RAS X and Rmotion X suspension have a LOW roll centre. That means when you turn into a corner the sled doesnt weight the outside ski the way it should and the sled pushes. Snowmobiles NEED to weight their outside ski. The higher effect roll centre of the links allows it to roll it weight onto the outside ski in the corner. The weighted ski bites into the snow the way it should and the sled turns predictably.
@@MrKitty11doesbaseball I would think before you say we contradict ourselves you should double check that you understand what was said. I said a "higher effective ROLL CENTRE". Roll centre and centre of gravity are TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
looks like a rush inside the tunnel
So when will skidoo go to the un coupled rear and same suspension package
Probably never
They need to throw that 900R in there
It will come, we are getting xterrain 900r in scandinavia;) its a 3700..i belive its coming to usa -23
Its Lynx RE which stands for Racing Edition. It shouldnt be called Rave because it means the basic model with cheaper shocks and setup. RE models will not be set any softer as these sleds have reputation that you can hit any bump at any speed. If you want a sofa buy a Skidoo. Rave RE 600 etec is much more balanced package than Rave RE 850 is when it comes to bumpy trail riding all day long while not tiring the rider. Anyways Lynx RE snowmobiles are designed to go over the bumps fast speed rather than slow down on them.
I don’t agree with your recommendation that the shocks should come stock with softer valving. If it’s too stiff then you very likely bought the wrong sled. I’m sick and tired of having to buy hundreds of dollars in springs and shock revalving to get a bump sled to work as it was advertised. Now before you cry out, “Dude, your obviously a 300 lb fat ass, no wonder you need suspension work.” No, I’m just over 200 lbs and have found sleds seem to be designed for 150lb riders. The Lynx sounds like they stayed true to the Euro suspension spec and I hope they leave it that way. Unfortunately I bet they heed your advice and that from other testers and water this sled down come this fall. Then it’ll only be big bump capable in myth and marketing hype. That won’t be acceptable of $17,000+.
Sway bar? No sway bar?
So it basically rides and handles like a nytro from back in the day. I seen those dam things go through 3 ft moguls at 60 mph. Was amazing to see actually
Suspension will soften up after it breaks in.
Wish there was an ACE option for it.
Ours has just under 1000km on it. The suspension definitely did break in a bit, but its still way too stiff.
Pro x was an axys chassis not pro ride.
Designed by engineers at lynx? So they designed the chassis for ski doo?
you misunderstood. the chassis is brps or skidoos and the skidframe is designed in finland not the chassis
The first XU expedition is Lynx al the way
OMG, nit pick the tiniest points. The chassis was designed by skidoo, the engineers at lynx took it and designed the RAVE around that chassis. My point is that this sled is NOT designed in Valcourt. The Lynx team has freedom to do what they want.
@@pavmentsurfer13 yes the chassis isnt lynx made but the skidframe is... I dont know how you got mad about that thats all i said
@@Narttuliisa It wasnt you I was replying to. It was the OP.
How much ?
Givin the current pandemic economic downturn I see some deep discounts coming on snowmobiles in the near future.
Not a lot of carry-over available. Dealers are mostly sold to the bare walls. It has been a record season for sales. Curious to see if the upcoming stimmies will spark a ton of spring orders.
This comment didn’t age well lol
It’s a «LynX», or as you say over the pond «LightningX»!
So how com AJ isn't reviewing this sled?is he afraid it might be better than a polaris
He’s still study up on the Lynx brand and the Rave.
Haven’t seen him since the uncrate. Most be taking the advance course.
AJs been busy working on other projects. Hes ridden the Lynx and he and I talked before I wrote the test. Our opinions are identical. No ones afraid of something being better than something else. In fact, we WANT it to be. All we care about is what sled is the best.
Isn't the Ontario groom trails speed limit 50 km/hr? Can't see people riding the Lynx's very hard to their full potential without risking a ticket every time lol.
I think trails in Sweden are max 50kmh too, but who cares? I have no idea about Finland...
You can use the sled as good at slow speeds to, just not the max possible to tweak out of it!
@EVOVIISWE I learned 50 for Sweden, but its kinda low in my opinion...i could be wrong though and i kinda dont care.
I have absolutely no clue about finland, so sorry for my expression which could sound like they dont have speed limits...i meant that i dont know.
On trails general limit is 60km/h. On ice it's 80. I think I ride at some tight corners within the limit...
50km here in ontario lakes no limit
After BRP discontinued the eTec Evinrude outboards, I’ll never buy a BRP product.
I still don't understand why people prefer upright riding position over sleds 03' and older. Look at fast cars they are extremely low with a low centre of gravity. Why are people convinced modern sleds need to be rider upright and tall. I'll never understand. An old sled turns better in tighter terrain than a modern sled
Your joking right?
Not sure about you, but I’m old and I like my back. Lol
Sounds like it's for a bigger guy like me
Exactly, I was telling my dad, who’s a big guy, this might be the sled for him
I'm almost 370 lb man on 2001 zr800 with a 121 track lol and now I have kids that love snowmobiling so now I'm looking for a family sedan will a 2 up this may be the sled to upgrade to
@@mattslandscaping4246 The pps is great for ridning with a 2up seat. Your passenger will thank you for the ride even if the trail is rough
I have a rave dealer sold me demo north st michel des saints quebec i set the limiter strap 3rd hole up and suspension to normal like the manual says with 5 clicks more on rebound up front put it this way i weigh 195 pounds this thing rocks got up at 6 this morning after the groomer my friend with his xrs 2021 could not catch me with this setup 3 to 4 in of ski lift for 15 feet and then on rails wow what acceletation really really fast corners solid no overbite oh yes 5 clicks more on the rebound on the front please reply on email thanks
Ps had it 1 week 850 click and thanks for your reviews
23 grand Canadian, I think I'll pass
I think the idea of it being stiff like a 600 rs is a selling point too me if they were too re valve the kybs too be slacker wouldn’t it be trying too make it more like the xrs ? ... if it’s too stiff ur too old and go get a xrs they are putting this out for people that ain’t like this guy. This sled is more extreme then him. Lol I love sitting down and riding bumps ? Jk the seld ain’t for that you don’t buy the self cause u wanna look like you ride harder then you do just stick with ur 137 xrs ol man.
Hmmmm.... youve clearly missed the ENTIRE point of my review. But I get it, the Rave should be reserved for only the HARDEST, most awesome, hardcore riders. Because those types of riders represent only a small part of the market. So thats a smart move.
Im 235lbs. I raced snowcross for 10 years. I won a pro national championship on the first Polaris Pro X. I know how to pound bumps HARD and ride FAST. If a guy my size cant get a sled to bottom out with the shocks set to FULL SOFT... theyre too stiff. This sled has so much more potential than just being reserved for guys who love to bang their heads off the handlebars all day. It COULD be a great all round sled for a wide range or riders. If the current soft setting was moved to %50 there would LOTS of adjustment for guys like you to stiffent it up even more and ride whatever line of craters you want. But it could also be softened up a bit for guys who like to ride hard and fast but dont want to rattle their brains all day.
speedlimit in sweden is 70 km/h
@@pavmentsurfer13 great reply. How many of these guys raced snowX for a DECADE? If the suspension can’t be bottomed by a 235 pound rider at full soft, then a 160 pound rider is going to feel like it’s fully locked out. If you put the shocks on max preload, even a 250+ isn’t going to get much action out of them. What’s wrong with asking for a little more range in the shocks? Nothing!
Maybe your test sled was valved a little on the stiffer side than the others out there? It’s Possible?
rush rear skid in tunnel. now it's playful. go figure
Bottom line: On a winding groomed trail, does this Lynx REALLY even stand a chance against a 129" VR1 with both sleds being ridden at their limits? I didn't think so.......
Probably not in the morning ride, but at Sunday afternoons lynx is faster. Stand up and ride hard 😉
@@brollann Thru wide open stretches, I agree.
Winding trails through the woods, any coupled 129 is going to be faster with an experienced rider - mashed out whoops or not. Its too bad they don't offer the RAVE Enduro in the states, as that'd be a closer fight for sure in dominating the trails.
@@bedlambikes Depends, if there are bumps in the winding trails this one will get 1st and the corners are easy on these ones if you stand up and ride hard! On the morning ride you get your ass beaten up and you shall buy a touring, stand up, ride hard, have fun, also on tight trails!
Yes, it does. Just got back from a 145 mile ride. Switched back and forth between the VR1 and the Lynx. The Lynx doesnt handle QUITE as good as the VR1 but it does handle amazing. Id be happy to ride this sled all day, everyday if the suspension was a bit softer. This is why the comments about "it should be left super stiff" bug me. Yes, the skid is uncoupled. But on our ride today, this sled out handled all the other coupled sleds in the group other than the VR1. Coupling is the final answer. Proper design of the whole sled is.
well look at the snowcross results in scandinavia and then come back with a comment...