This the exact sort of behind the scenes stories that you won't find anywhere else. It really helps puts into perspective how difficult tennis of a career is.
Love this. Always nice to get the inside line on what happens when the camera's aren't rolling on the players. Absolutely do another podcast on the inbalances of prize monies lower down the chain with challengers/futures. It's always surprising to me to learn that a junior No.1/GS champion can't or doesn't progress from there to elite level and wonder how much of that is sponsorship and funding...
Great episode guys. Thank you. Suggestion for a topic in racket deals. Also known so not known little secret of players playing with the same racket but different pain job. Sometimes even a different brand.👍🏽
Thts were im at... I never had a chance..jm 45 years now and after injuries no one helped me .lost all family bever helped. O friend.s then i worked all this year s and i want to play now. I think i am one of th best and i will prive it then retire.
Mr Roddick, I always love to see you play but now that I listen to your youtube channel, I regret that I didn't appreciate you more. Simply the best channel on tennis !
This is precisely why Rybakina switched nationality from russian to Kazakhstani in 2018. The Kazakhstan Tennis Federation had offered her financial support to change her nationality
Really I did think she did it because everyone is hating Russians now because of the war in Ukraine and also as a Russian she has a lot of competition with other Russian players lol and of course paying less income taxes lol
@@orchidpanda2253 Not really. She held a dual nationality but Under Japan’s Nationality Act, those with dual citizenship must choose one before their 22nd birthday. Naomi’s decision to relinquish her US citizenship came six days before her 22nd birthday. She was already a GS champion at that point.
I've been a tennis fan for decades and this is my favorite pod of Andy's to date. Fascinating look behind the curtain of money in tennis and how the machine works. I was always interested in the machinations of it all, but since it was "taboo", much of it went unanswered. Love that Andy is doing these types of conversations with "people in the know" such as Max. As soon as the content of this pod was announced, I was instantly looking forward to it, and you didn't disappoint. Great job to the entire team and especially to Andy for "going there", when many wouldn't.
Please, talk about why tv wont' lower the camera angle during matches. Court level viewing shows so much more of what tennis has to offer. What is the roadblock? I look forward to this podcast every week, please keep it up. This is the best place for tennis analysis and behind the scenes details. Looking forward to the Champions Classic in Atlanta! Cheers.
Andy and the team, this is a great podcast that allows tennis fans to know the behind the scene economics in tennis world. always love to hear from a legend of the game
Thanks for having Max contribute and for taking time to explain details of other revenue streams. Excellent episode and next you guys can talk about the under compensated #50-200 players in the world.
It’s very entitled to claim that someone must invest money in you when you’re a kid and have 1/1000000 chance of making it and then not paying their investment back through some perpetual arrangement For every Roddick that made it , there were 99999 others that didn’t
@@jj7546 let’s take a simple example: Arthur Cazuax was better than Alcaraz when growing up. Now he’s probably making a loss on tour. Someone who invested in him has burned a hole in
Are you gonna talk about Queens? You should have a look at Perricard and his insane serving stats. Just averaged 128 mph on 2nd serve against Ben, never have I seen a higher average. Only 5 DFs. He's getting these numbers consistently as well.
Coulda been my favourite episode! I think the public knows more about the financial woes of the struggling pro than the crazy excesses of the superstar, so it was great that Andy pulled back the curtain. Keep up the great work!
Well that was an eye-opener. I knew about appearance fees, but I had no idea they equal or exceed winnings. 1:32:43 "This money conversation is important...The asymmetry of money talk always hurts the talent, always hurts labour & always helps management". I love Jon for this.
Fantastic episode - wish someone brought up Dustin Brown living out of his van touring -- he's the example of a gifted phenom who didn't get the support to break through - the real baby Fed in my view. :)
I was at Andy's US Open victory match. I'm as big a tennis fan as anyone and getting all the behind the scenes knowledge answering questions that have been in the back of my mind for ages makes this my favorite podcast at anything. Andy's analysis of tennis and explaining where the average commentators get it "wrong" is also worth its weight in gold. Thanks for this, Andy and co...
I think you're all nailing it with the mix of "we just watched this match holy shit!" to "this is the behind the scenes operations". The only downside for me, is that I need to be focusing on these podcasts, since if you're driving or just having it playing while I'm doing somethings means I miss some nuggets of wisdom. Also, I think Mr. Eisenbud showed a real life example of just how much of a smooth operator he is with brand deals with that casual sponsor transition he did for yah.
This has nothing to do with the topic on today's show but I have to ask - When I watch tennis matches, why do the British commentators always get the players names wrong by putting enphasis on the wrong syllables? Like Rybakina, which is properly pronounced Ryba-kina. That's how she says her name. The British say ry-BAACK-kina. Are all British commentators that unintelligent?
Honestly, your shared experience is incredibly amazing and insightful. It will benefit numerous juniors and tennis parents. Thanks, Andy, Jon and producer Mike.
When you do an investment in a child of 12 years like 100.000 $ a year up to his 17/18 years, where they normally enter the professional circus, why shouldn´t the investor not profitize even a carreer-long from this ? That is an investment of 800.000$, which can go broke completly, when the player does not succed ... It is cold ROI . How many players get to ATP Top 100, where you can have a good life from playing tennis ? I know some around ATP 200-300, they cannot really live from only playing tennis, so the probability, to chose an Alcaraz to invest in, a very low...
Amazing content like is there awards for tennis news casting because give Andy the award he’s so insightful and talks about topics that people who love tennis actually LOVE to hear about
How about a special episode on Sex and the Successful Tennis Player? As you progressed toward the top of the rankings, I imagine that both the number and average attractiveness of women accessible to you increased exponentially, It would be super interesting to hear how, in that context, you navigated hookups, dating and relationships. Bonus points if you could get Nick Kyrgios as special guest for that episode, as he has famously said that he regularly hooks up with fans who contact him via social media. I think he could offer especially useful insight into these issues.
❤ was thinking the same thing. Rip the covers off of that taboo topic. Would love special guests on too. Borg. McEnroe. Navratilova. All the off court photos from back in the day look like they partied like rock stars
The description often comes up in this episode about it being a disgusting topic, but this episode has so much value! What is disgusting is that in a country like South Africa (where I am based), there is an absolute vacuum of this type of financial ecosystem or infrastructure. There are no agents, no real sponsors, no deals to be made yet ALL of the exorbitant cost of playing the sport. That being said, there is a huge opportunity for this type of ecosystem to be established. There are hugely talented players that win ITFs yet find it difficult to raise money to make it overseas. Due to our exchange rate, we cannot have an open or even a 250 event never mind pay players appearances to feature here. There are companies tied to the sport here that make massive sums off players yet are not prepared to boost their presence, and no agents to market the personas. In this country, we would give anything to have this type of economic infrastructure. John-Laffnie de Jager has been trying to kickstart this type of thing for years but has said in all honesty its not really possible. I don't really believe it. Great podcast. Extremely valuable.
I was a tennis coach from 2002 to 2020 so I was in the industry during Andy's rise. The amount of Babolat Pure Drives we sold because every kid wanted one was crazy.
Thank you for this episode. It was excellently done. You can always trust Andy and his team to deliver the highest quality simply because of how Andy thinks, the way his brain is wired, and his unique personality composition. I totally get him.
Absolutely fascinating and appreciated. Wow this podcast doesn't disappoint. Thanks to the entire team for this content! Also - I love having full episodes on youtube, instead of having piecemeal from the show to watch - makes me uncertain which one to listen to (youtube vs. pod). Thanks again!!!!
Fantastic episode. Thanks for sharing. Would really be interested in similar discussion from point of view of ATP #50 and ATP #250 type players (assume they are very different from this and each other).
This was great btw...doing another episode on players in challengers/futures events and comparing that to the "cream of the crop" would also be interesting
Following from Max's comments about careers in tennis. Would be cool for you to interview people in the tennis field that dont hit a ball over the net e.g. stats people technicians etc
Let me just say this clear and simple. A Rod is a fucking legend of the sport, an ex world no1, hall of famer the list goes on. The fact he is doing a podcast like this is fucking legendary. The guests The content The info The education I can’t explain the benefit of this for ANYONE out there. Especially young adults aspiring to ‘make it’. Just incredible. A Rod (Mr Pure Drive Plus) We Love ya and thank ya to you and all the team for this epic Pod ❤🙏🏽
This is such an awesome and educational video. Love this podcast because these are topics you never hear about in the public. Andy puts a great spin on things with his humor as well. Love to hear more about sponsorships and different tiers with the clothing and racquet brands.
This was an amazing episode, and I say this as a huge tennis fans who's listenend to many tennis podcasts. Virtually every tennis analyst shies away from discussing the financials in detail, so I found this particularly memorable. 10/10 🎾
I do find hypocrisy of initial IMG guy interesting. It is ok for companies to scout player and catch them early for sponsorship deals. But it is not ok for someone to take a percentage of prize money. If any person is financing tennis players, there is no guarantee of success. Probably they are financing 10-20 player, and only couple of them succeed. So it's only fair that they get some windfall if any player are able to do good in the circuit. Same was as Nike/Reebok would finance many juniors so they can encash of couple who do succeed
I think a good topic would be why you felt like you had so much trouble against Federer, unlike versus another top tier opponent like Novak D. You had a winning H2H record.. styles make match ups, but your outlook would be really interesting
This was fabulous! more behind the scenes information about the tours and how hard it is being a tennis player. I love the idea of talking about players that are just starting out and they have to play the challenger tour, which I know little about. I think talking to/about Dustin Brown, the Jamaican/German tennis player who I believe traveled around Europe in a van his parents bought him to travel in to play tournaments. Might be interesting. Also, it might be interesting to talk about the chair umpires, how they start and how they become popular and in demand, or despised and never used. (see Bruno Ribeau)
The real downside of all the financial barriers to training to become a elite tennis player is that you don’t end up with the best possible tennis players. In a alternate universe where entry into tennis has a minimum cost to any kid in the world who wants to play and learn tennis. I’d bet that not a single player in the top 50 in our universe would be in the top 50 in the alternate universe. There are many potentially greater tennis players in this world that never consider the sport at all. Imagine a John Isner type player but with a six footers speed and agility. Women with greater size, speed and athleticism compared to Serena Williams exist. Just watch a WNBA game. I’m not saying that just being a great athlete will automatically make you a great tennis player. But when you consider how many athletes in the world have better athletic measurables than tennis players even if only a small percentage of them have the knack to play tennis then the current top 50 could easily be replaced in a alternate universe. People in the alternate universe would be like “Roger Federer who?”
Love the podcast, still the sport is very expensive for the players to make any real money, the players would play on the Challenger tour don't make much, it seems to mean the only ones to make any decent money need to get inside the top 50 . Players need to have a backup plan if they can't make a living on the pro circuit.
For the other side of the discussion on money in tennis, it would be cool to listen in on a conversation between Andy and Conor Niland who recently wrote a book, “The Racket”, detailing his struggles on getting into the main tour.
When parents act as coach and agent of teenage players, are they also paid equivalent to professional coaches and agents? Is there a trust fund established for youth players, similar to that fit underage actors?
Great episode! some topics that would be great: post match routines Andy´s favorite and least favorite players to play Get a former wimbledon champ for the grass season (Muguruza, Barty, Kvitova, obviously Federer and Serena LOL)
I've only listened to a few episodes so far but I find the podcast very interesting, and I found this one on a maybe more taboo subject quite honest and very informative. You have a new subscriber! I already know it's not easy at all for them but I would really love to hear about what it's like financially for players at Challenger and ITF level some day.
Fascinating listen . Behind the net discussion of the financial side of things is great. How does or will the new PTPA union affect the financial set up of the tournaments. Do you think there will be more openness regarding assets of the tournaments getting down to the lower ranked players?
Great content. That was super interesting and informative. I wouldn't mind a part 2 focusing on the support cast - presenters, journalists (sure Jon Wertheim would be happy to spill), main tour umpires etc.
This is a great episode. Thanks for all the inside information. I'd love to here from a player who is in the top 50-100 and see what their finances are like. Without getting to personal. Thanks for all the great content!
What a wildly informative and fantastic conversation about prize money, endorsements, appearance fees, agents, sponsors. Truly eye-opening about the business of tennis-learning how to trust, who to trust, what’s important as you build a team and a career. I so appreciated Andy’s analysis and personal revelations. This is just what the rabid Andy/tennis fan in me wanted to know. Love the image of a 17-y-o Andy winning his first prize money and spending it all on a ridiculously sick car stereo system so he could blast OutKast in his high school parking lot. Hysterical! Best podcast ever! Keep ‘em coming.
Love these sort of behind the scenes discussions about all the stuff I've always wondered about the professional tour! 2 other topics I would love to know more about: 1. Tournament Management- How are tournaments created/lost? Are they actually profitable or do they rely on donors/national funding? What's the budget breakdown? Who are all the other "players" that make a tournament happen besides the tennis players and what sorts of logistics are in place? How does this differ between ITF events up to Grand Slams? 2. Sustainability- Pro tennis is an incredibly consumptive sport from balls/shoes/strings/water bottles up to flying around the globe for players and their entourage. The ATP has a plan in place that as this point seems more like an evaluation and has players tracking their carbon footprints....are they doing enough? What emissions reductions strategies are currently in place/in the works/on the table? Is it actually feasible to consider emissions when as a player, you are trying to prioritize moving up the rankings?
Ive been attending ITF 15k tournaments for the last three weeks in San Diego, and I've been wondering about this financial stuff. Perfect timing. Very fascinating.
Great episode! I especially like episodes like these where you get a lot of info of the inner workings of being on the tour that you otherwise wouldn't get from pundits or just following the tour/watching Tennis Channel. As always, I appreciate Andy's candor and seemingly unfiltered truth/no B.S. in giving us the scoop.
Thanks for clarifying the (for me) eye popping amount of money for appearance fees. I'm guessing that's a least a part of the reason Rudd plays all those 250s.
Thanks for this episode, amazing best ever insider discussion about tennis and money. Honestly this episode should be a required viewing for any aspiring professional tennis player and parents of high level juniors. Tennis needed these kind of discussions. Keep the great work
Fascinating episode. I think most serious tennis fans know there is appearance money paid but I have never heard any former or current top player go into such detail about it and the whole array of deals offered to players. It doesn't sit comfortably with Andy to talk about it that's obvious but his honesty and openess are refreshing and endearing. Love this show!!!
This is brilliant, so many things to unpack here and learn from, not just about tennis but about life in general and handling finances, planning for the future etc. Thank you Andy for being so open about everything, this is so good for so many people to hear.
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This the exact sort of behind the scenes stories that you won't find anywhere else. It really helps puts into perspective how difficult tennis of a career is.
Love this. Always nice to get the inside line on what happens when the camera's aren't rolling on the players. Absolutely do another podcast on the inbalances of prize monies lower down the chain with challengers/futures. It's always surprising to me to learn that a junior No.1/GS champion can't or doesn't progress from there to elite level and wonder how much of that is sponsorship and funding...
Great episode guys. Thank you. Suggestion for a topic in racket deals. Also known so not known little secret of players playing with the same racket but different pain job. Sometimes even a different brand.👍🏽
Thts were im at... I never had a chance..jm 45 years now and after injuries no one helped me .lost all family bever helped. O friend.s then i worked all this year s and i want to play now. I think i am one of th best and i will prive it then retire.
Man, this podcast continues to be the best tennis content anyone can watch/listen.
Mr Roddick, I always love to see you play but now that I listen to your youtube channel, I regret that I didn't appreciate you more. Simply the best channel on tennis !
This is precisely why Rybakina switched nationality from russian to Kazakhstani in 2018. The Kazakhstan Tennis Federation had offered her financial support to change her nationality
Really I did think she did it because everyone is hating Russians now because of the war in Ukraine and also as a Russian she has a lot of competition with other Russian players lol and of course paying less income taxes lol
@@ririta81 Such a silly comment. Rybakina switched federations to Kazakhstan in June 2018. It was an easy google search.
@@ririta81 2018
Same with Naomi - USTA refused to support her when she was starting out and JTA stepped in to support her.
@@orchidpanda2253 Not really. She held a dual nationality but Under Japan’s Nationality Act, those with dual citizenship must choose one before their 22nd birthday. Naomi’s decision to relinquish her US citizenship came six days before her 22nd birthday. She was already a GS champion at that point.
I've been a tennis fan for decades and this is my favorite pod of Andy's to date. Fascinating look behind the curtain of money in tennis and how the machine works. I was always interested in the machinations of it all, but since it was "taboo", much of it went unanswered. Love that Andy is doing these types of conversations with "people in the know" such as Max. As soon as the content of this pod was announced, I was instantly looking forward to it, and you didn't disappoint. Great job to the entire team and especially to Andy for "going there", when many wouldn't.
Great stuff! You should do one on "Tennis Parents" and bring on Brian Barker, he can talk for hours about that stuff.
How is that even possible that you only have 33k subscribers. Worlds is nuts! You rocks Andy
He was very late to the game.
Professional Tennis seems to be neatly summed up in that classic ABBA song that goes something like ”The top 100 takes it all”
Please, talk about why tv wont' lower the camera angle during matches. Court level viewing shows so much more of what tennis has to offer. What is the roadblock? I look forward to this podcast every week, please keep it up. This is the best place for tennis analysis and behind the scenes details. Looking forward to the Champions Classic in Atlanta! Cheers.
Advertisements around the perimeter of the court won’t be seen is what I’ve heard from a commentator before.
And it’s more difficult to see what the person on far side of the court is doing
Yes. This topic is a must. I’m a jr player that wants to play pro. This helped a lot. Keep going into these topics.
Andy and the team, this is a great podcast that allows tennis fans to know the behind the scene economics in tennis world. always love to hear from a legend of the game
One of the best shows ever. Talking about money is taboo and that is one reason why so many persons struggle with it.
Thanks for having Max contribute and for taking time to explain details of other revenue streams. Excellent episode and next you guys can talk about the under compensated #50-200 players in the world.
It’s very entitled to claim that someone must invest money in you when you’re a kid and have 1/1000000 chance of making it and then not paying their investment back through some perpetual arrangement
For every Roddick that made it , there were 99999 others that didn’t
It’s much more likely than that. They’re not investing in random kids they invest in those who show exceptional potential
@@jj7546 let’s take a simple example: Arthur Cazuax was better than Alcaraz when growing up. Now he’s probably making a loss on tour. Someone who invested in him has burned a hole in
Excactly like this, it is. The story of Tommy Haas and his investors, which had to go to court, I still remember.
Fascinating. I like the behind the scenes information about professional tennis.
Honesty is much appreciated
Are you gonna talk about Queens? You should have a look at Perricard and his insane serving stats. Just averaged 128 mph on 2nd serve against Ben, never have I seen a higher average. Only 5 DFs. He's getting these numbers consistently as well.
Coulda been my favourite episode! I think the public knows more about the financial woes of the struggling pro than the crazy excesses of the superstar, so it was great that Andy pulled back the curtain. Keep up the great work!
The background info here is insane! Thanks, Andy.
Amazing insights into the tennis world. I live in Stockholm, Sweden. I have been a tennis fan since the 1970s.
Well that was an eye-opener. I knew about appearance fees, but I had no idea they equal or exceed winnings.
1:32:43 "This money conversation is important...The asymmetry of money talk always hurts the talent, always hurts labour & always helps management". I love Jon for this.
Fantastic episode - wish someone brought up Dustin Brown living out of his van touring -- he's the example of a gifted phenom who didn't get the support to break through - the real baby Fed in my view. :)
I was at Andy's US Open victory match. I'm as big a tennis fan as anyone and getting all the behind the scenes knowledge answering questions that have been in the back of my mind for ages makes this my favorite podcast at anything. Andy's analysis of tennis and explaining where the average commentators get it "wrong" is also worth its weight in gold. Thanks for this, Andy and co...
I think you're all nailing it with the mix of "we just watched this match holy shit!" to "this is the behind the scenes operations". The only downside for me, is that I need to be focusing on these podcasts, since if you're driving or just having it playing while I'm doing somethings means I miss some nuggets of wisdom.
Also, I think Mr. Eisenbud showed a real life example of just how much of a smooth operator he is with brand deals with that casual sponsor transition he did for yah.
This has nothing to do with the topic on today's show but I have to ask - When I watch tennis matches, why do the British commentators always get the players names wrong by putting enphasis on the wrong syllables?
Like Rybakina, which is properly pronounced Ryba-kina. That's how she says her name.
The British say ry-BAACK-kina.
Are all British commentators that unintelligent?
Honestly, your shared experience is incredibly amazing and insightful. It will benefit numerous juniors and tennis parents. Thanks, Andy, Jon and producer Mike.
Podcast was not weird. Very good information. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
Somebody needs to write a book about this! This is awesome information
great behind the scenes information; love Andy's candor and honesty
Great channel. Tennis finances are a black box to average fans like me. The next black box is coaching in tennis.
Thanks Andy
Very insightful
When you do an investment in a child of 12 years like 100.000 $ a year up to his 17/18 years, where they normally enter the professional circus, why shouldn´t the investor not profitize even a carreer-long from this ? That is an investment of 800.000$, which can go broke completly, when the player does not succed ... It is cold ROI . How many players get to ATP Top 100, where you can have a good life from playing tennis ? I know some around ATP 200-300, they cannot really live from only playing tennis, so the probability, to chose an Alcaraz to invest in, a very low...
Amazing content like is there awards for tennis news casting because give Andy the award he’s so insightful and talks about topics that people who love tennis actually LOVE to hear about
Best tennis brain out right now
How about a special episode on Sex and the Successful Tennis Player? As you progressed toward the top of the rankings, I imagine that both the number and average attractiveness of women accessible to you increased exponentially, It would be super interesting to hear how, in that context, you navigated hookups, dating and relationships.
Bonus points if you could get Nick Kyrgios as special guest for that episode, as he has famously said that he regularly hooks up with fans who contact him via social media. I think he could offer especially useful insight into these issues.
❤ was thinking the same thing. Rip the covers off of that taboo topic. Would love special guests on too. Borg. McEnroe. Navratilova. All the off court photos from back in the day look like they partied like rock stars
Pass on that one.
Please do an episode on the money in ITF or Challenger tour level events please!
the most interesting conversation on tennis I have ever heard well done
wonderful insight nothing like it for us hackers and weekenders keep up the great work
The description often comes up in this episode about it being a disgusting topic, but this episode has so much value!
What is disgusting is that in a country like South Africa (where I am based), there is an absolute vacuum of this type of financial ecosystem or infrastructure. There are no agents, no real sponsors, no deals to be made yet ALL of the exorbitant cost of playing the sport.
That being said, there is a huge opportunity for this type of ecosystem to be established.
There are hugely talented players that win ITFs yet find it difficult to raise money to make it overseas.
Due to our exchange rate, we cannot have an open or even a 250 event never mind pay players appearances to feature here.
There are companies tied to the sport here that make massive sums off players yet are not prepared to boost their presence, and no agents to market the personas.
In this country, we would give anything to have this type of economic infrastructure.
John-Laffnie de Jager has been trying to kickstart this type of thing for years but has said in all honesty its not really possible.
I don't really believe it.
Great podcast. Extremely valuable.
I was a tennis coach from 2002 to 2020 so I was in the industry during Andy's rise. The amount of Babolat Pure Drives we sold because every kid wanted one was crazy.
best episode ever
Thank you for this episode. It was excellently done. You can always trust Andy and his team to deliver the highest quality simply because of how Andy thinks, the way his brain is wired, and his unique personality composition. I totally get him.
Absolutely fascinating and appreciated. Wow this podcast doesn't disappoint. Thanks to the entire team for this content! Also - I love having full episodes on youtube, instead of having piecemeal from the show to watch - makes me uncertain which one to listen to (youtube vs. pod). Thanks again!!!!
I am smarter than before I heard this pod. Thanks A-Rod
Fantastic episode. Thanks for sharing. Would really be interested in similar discussion from point of view of ATP #50 and ATP #250 type players (assume they are very different from this and each other).
Really enjoyed this episode, very interesting topic!
Wow - talk about going under the hood! Amazing knowledge and background, Andy 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This was great btw...doing another episode on players in challengers/futures events and comparing that to the "cream of the crop" would also be interesting
Awesome episode. Great insights on tennis economics. Congratulations!
Following from Max's comments about careers in tennis. Would be cool for you to interview people in the tennis field that dont hit a ball over the net e.g. stats people technicians etc
1:20:03 Andy won’t name names, great as he is.. but for anyone wondering.. it’s probably Bogomolov Jr.
Anyway, thanks for this great episode!
Me listening to this pod realizing how poor I am. 🤣
Let me just say this clear and simple.
A Rod is a fucking legend of the sport, an ex world no1, hall of famer the list goes on.
The fact he is doing a podcast like this is fucking legendary.
The guests
The content
The info
The education
I can’t explain the benefit of this for ANYONE out there. Especially young adults aspiring to ‘make it’.
Just incredible.
A Rod (Mr Pure Drive Plus)
We Love ya and thank ya to you and all the team for this epic Pod ❤🙏🏽
This is such an awesome and educational video. Love this podcast because these are topics you never hear about in the public. Andy puts a great spin on things with his humor as well. Love to hear more about sponsorships and different tiers with the clothing and racquet brands.
This was an amazing episode, and I say this as a huge tennis fans who's listenend to many tennis podcasts.
Virtually every tennis analyst shies away from discussing the financials in detail, so I found this particularly memorable.
10/10 🎾
I do find hypocrisy of initial IMG guy interesting. It is ok for companies to scout player and catch them early for sponsorship deals. But it is not ok for someone to take a percentage of prize money.
If any person is financing tennis players, there is no guarantee of success. Probably they are financing 10-20 player, and only couple of them succeed. So it's only fair that they get some windfall if any player are able to do good in the circuit.
Same was as Nike/Reebok would finance many juniors so they can encash of couple who do succeed
I think a good topic would be why you felt like you had so much trouble against Federer, unlike versus another top tier opponent like Novak D. You had a winning H2H record.. styles make match ups, but your outlook would be really interesting
This podcast was beyond interesting ...Very open, doesn't get lost in weeds, and really informs .. thanks
I really appreciated this episode! It's important to be as much informed about money and business deals as possible. Information is power.
This was fabulous! more behind the scenes information about the tours and how hard it is being a tennis player. I love the idea of talking about players that are just starting out and they have to play the challenger tour, which I know little about. I think talking to/about Dustin Brown, the Jamaican/German tennis player who I believe traveled around Europe in a van his parents bought him to travel in to play tournaments. Might be interesting. Also, it might be interesting to talk about the chair umpires, how they start and how they become popular and in demand, or despised and never used. (see Bruno Ribeau)
Incredible podcast up until the “disgusting, guilty, privileged” comments.
The real downside of all the financial barriers to training to become a elite tennis player is that you don’t end up with the best possible tennis players. In a alternate universe where entry into tennis has a minimum cost to any kid in the world who wants to play and learn tennis. I’d bet that not a single player in the top 50 in our universe would be in the top 50 in the alternate universe. There are many potentially greater tennis players in this world that never consider the sport at all. Imagine a John Isner type player but with a six footers speed and agility. Women with greater size, speed and athleticism compared to Serena Williams exist. Just watch a WNBA game. I’m not saying that just being a great athlete will automatically make you a great tennis player. But when you consider how many athletes in the world have better athletic measurables than tennis players even if only a small percentage of them have the knack to play tennis then the current top 50 could easily be replaced in a alternate universe. People in the alternate universe would be like “Roger Federer who?”
Really appreciate all this!
Max Eisenbud is making a fortune off of Emma Raducanu - ThE New Anna Kornakova. lol.
Love the podcast, still the sport is very expensive for the players to make any real money, the players would play on the Challenger tour don't make much, it seems to mean the only ones to make any decent money need to get inside the top 50 . Players need to have a backup plan if they can't make a living on the pro circuit.
For the other side of the discussion on money in tennis, it would be cool to listen in on a conversation between Andy and Conor Niland who recently wrote a book, “The Racket”, detailing his struggles on getting into the main tour.
I drink Olipop over Poppi ONLY because of Andy Roddick.
When parents act as coach and agent of teenage players, are they also paid equivalent to professional coaches and agents? Is there a trust fund established for youth players, similar to that fit underage actors?
Awesome episode! Very insightful and greatly appreciated Andy and guys and guests!
Really fascinating to hear all this, so much more to the business than just hitting a fluffy ball!
Thank you! Insane level of knowledge in this episode❤
I'm so shocked you haven't mentioned Raducanu 😉
Can we get Kim next time so we can get the wta side of things on this topic.
This is great content! Thank you man.
Great episode! some topics that would be great:
post match routines
Andy´s favorite and least favorite players to play
Get a former wimbledon champ for the grass season (Muguruza, Barty, Kvitova, obviously Federer and Serena LOL)
v articulate and objective.
I've only listened to a few episodes so far but I find the podcast very interesting, and I found this one on a maybe more taboo subject quite honest and very informative. You have a new subscriber! I already know it's not easy at all for them but I would really love to hear about what it's like financially for players at Challenger and ITF level some day.
Great episode and so interesting Andy!! Be careful though that the taxman doesn't come after you for those barmitzva earnings!! 😊
Fascinating listen . Behind the net discussion of the financial side of things is great. How does or will the new PTPA union affect the financial set up of the tournaments. Do you think there will be more openness regarding assets of the tournaments getting down to the lower ranked players?
Great content. That was super interesting and informative. I wouldn't mind a part 2 focusing on the support cast - presenters, journalists (sure Jon Wertheim would be happy to spill), main tour umpires etc.
Great episode. Thanks Andy for being open and honest. I'm sure Fed and Rafa have earned some ridiculous appearance fees
This is a great episode. Thanks for all the inside information. I'd love to here from a player who is in the top 50-100 and see what their finances are like. Without getting to personal. Thanks for all the great content!
What a wildly informative and fantastic conversation
about prize money, endorsements, appearance fees, agents, sponsors. Truly eye-opening about the business of tennis-learning how to trust, who to trust, what’s important as you build a team and a career. I so appreciated Andy’s analysis and personal revelations. This is just what the rabid Andy/tennis fan in me wanted to know. Love the image of a 17-y-o Andy winning his first prize money and spending it all on a ridiculously sick car stereo system so he could blast OutKast in his high school parking lot. Hysterical! Best podcast ever! Keep ‘em coming.
Awesome insight to things that we think about but no little about. And as per usual …, excellently presented. Very, very interesting.
Love these sort of behind the scenes discussions about all the stuff I've always wondered about the professional tour! 2 other topics I would love to know more about:
1. Tournament Management- How are tournaments created/lost? Are they actually profitable or do they rely on donors/national funding? What's the budget breakdown? Who are all the other "players" that make a tournament happen besides the tennis players and what sorts of logistics are in place? How does this differ between ITF events up to Grand Slams?
2. Sustainability- Pro tennis is an incredibly consumptive sport from balls/shoes/strings/water bottles up to flying around the globe for players and their entourage. The ATP has a plan in place that as this point seems more like an evaluation and has players tracking their carbon footprints....are they doing enough? What emissions reductions strategies are currently in place/in the works/on the table? Is it actually feasible to consider emissions when as a player, you are trying to prioritize moving up the rankings?
Solid Andy , all the way from the Bahamas. Always rout for u except against Federer. U can go win Wimbledon now.
Ive been attending ITF 15k tournaments for the last three weeks in San Diego, and I've been wondering about this financial stuff. Perfect timing. Very fascinating.
Great podcast! Can we also talk about why so many lower-ranked tennis players are struggling financially?
Great episode! I especially like episodes like these where you get a lot of info of the inner workings of being on the tour that you otherwise wouldn't get from pundits or just following the tour/watching Tennis Channel. As always, I appreciate Andy's candor and seemingly unfiltered truth/no B.S. in giving us the scoop.
Thanks for clarifying the (for me) eye popping amount of money for appearance fees. I'm guessing that's a least a part of the reason Rudd plays all those 250s.
Thanks for this episode, amazing best ever insider discussion about tennis and money. Honestly this episode should be a required viewing for any aspiring professional tennis player and parents of high level juniors. Tennis needed these kind of discussions. Keep the great work
Fascinating episode. I think most serious tennis fans know there is appearance money paid but I have never heard any former or current top player go into such detail about it and the whole array of deals offered to players. It doesn't sit comfortably with Andy to talk about it that's obvious but his honesty and openess are refreshing and endearing. Love this show!!!
A lot of interesting insights in this video, thank you Andy. Haven't you considered to do a special episode dedicated to the US college tennis?
Roddick basically said that he used prize money to cover costs and pay for his team and treated his endorsement income as his "real money".
Major 🔑! About taking money that will affect performance on the court! 1:34:26
Respect your candour and the way you tell trigger-happy fingers on twitter to lump it 😂. 💪🏿
This is brilliant, so many things to unpack here and learn from, not just about tennis but about life in general and handling finances, planning for the future etc. Thank you Andy for being so open about everything, this is so good for so many people to hear.