I live in Victoria on Vancouver Island. We have Garry Oaks here which are very twisty. About 30 years ago, there was a co-dominant Garry Oak across the street. On a very hot, windless afternoon there a loud crack sound followed by a lot of crunching. I live in a large townhouse complex and several families were out on the shared lawn. The kids started running to see what was happening, the parents were yelling not to go too close. I went out on my balcony to see one side of the oak sprawled across the lawn and the road. Two weeks later the rest of the oak was removed. I went to have a look at the stump and saw that it was so rotten in the middle that I could have stood up in the middle of it.
in 2004, working on a heritage Oak in downtown Palo Alto Ca. I suggested to weigh the chip truck before and loaded with chips. to get a more accurate weight of the amount of weight reduction from a. limb that was deemed heavy that time of inspection. fellow arborist , thought I was crazy . when the final report was documented , the weight was a huge factor and most valuable point of the end the work performed , just sharing my thought from a time when it was not so valuable n now its a priceless document in the future Joe
The weight of a water filled limb can be huge. I remember a crane job (old video), where the crane operator told us the weight of the one limb we had to lift off a roof. 26000 pounds. I thought about 10,000.
Here in the Southwest, and I know for sure in Texas, we have the Live Oak...Quercus Virginian...that has very similar twisting limbs that grow in all kinds of directions. In many places in Texas where there is not much rainfall, the trees grow very slowly and the limbs are very twisty and get tangled up around each other. They are used a lot in landscaping.
Not only does clients NOT realize the effort, risks and pain that tree-service people put out...but clients also tend to penalize the service provider for their skills and efficiency by referring to how quickly the job was done...and how easy that looked; thereby (indirectly)questioning the pricing. Easy because the men made it look easy.
Customers usually don’t understand that….Skills + $$$ Equipment = Efficiency. That’s what they are paying for…sometimes it feels like if we bumbled our way through the job they’d be happier because it took longer (but only if they’re not being charged by the hour!)
I have the same throw ling bag too , n yes they discontinued the Bonnard system a few years back, younger climbers like the throw cube not sure why the Bonnard system is timeless ..
I have often thought about collecting all the advice I would want to give a ground worker and do a training video showing all the ways of working smarter, safer and saving steps with tips and tricks. I think the first thing to do is a video asking the ideas from you all who are working this business. Start a list
One thing this video made me wonder at the 3:38 or so time, for some limbs and cuts I know you do the bottom cut with the chainsaw then cut from the top to prevent bark tear out. Do you do the same for the larger limbs that you cut with the pole saw too?
Generally that is the right way to make a cut. Sometimes, (because we understand the wood we are working with), we can get away with a fast cut. Larger limbs? No. If we are intending to clean up a polesaw cut, we will often let it rip for control. It’s all about understanding the tree we are working on.
Is there a reason not to use powered pole saw? I saw a municipal tree trimming crew where my parents live using one with a small (10" or 12" bar) chainsaw on a 0 foot pole when I was young. The were using it to trim back overhanging branches and brush along the road side.
There is the small factor of your amazing flexibility and fitness Blair, which is a sight to behold. I think most of us would not be able to do what you and Jorge do every day!
This might be the coolest looking Oak species
In my area, yes
I live in Victoria on Vancouver Island. We have Garry Oaks here which are very twisty. About 30 years ago, there was a co-dominant Garry Oak across the street. On a very hot, windless afternoon there a loud crack sound followed by a lot of crunching. I live in a large townhouse complex and several families were out on the shared lawn. The kids started running to see what was happening, the parents were yelling not to go too close. I went out on my balcony to see one side of the oak sprawled across the lawn and the road. Two weeks later the rest of the oak was removed. I went to have a look at the stump and saw that it was so rotten in the middle that I could have stood up in the middle of it.
Some trees survive even with decay BUT nothing lives forever. We all go back into the earth to provide for the future.
in 2004, working on a heritage Oak in downtown Palo Alto Ca. I suggested to weigh the chip truck before and loaded with chips. to get a more accurate weight of the amount of weight reduction from a. limb that was deemed heavy that time of inspection. fellow arborist , thought I was crazy . when the final report was documented , the weight was a huge factor and most valuable point of the end the work performed , just sharing my thought from a time when it was not so valuable n now its a priceless document in the future
Joe
The weight of a water filled limb can be huge. I remember a crane job (old video), where the crane operator told us the weight of the one limb we had to lift off a roof. 26000 pounds. I thought about 10,000.
Here in the Southwest, and I know for sure in Texas, we have the Live Oak...Quercus Virginian...that has very similar twisting limbs that grow in all kinds of directions. In many places in Texas where there is not much rainfall, the trees grow very slowly and the limbs are very twisty and get tangled up around each other. They are used a lot in landscaping.
I need to travel more to see trees I don’t know.
Not only does clients NOT realize the effort, risks and pain that tree-service people put out...but clients also tend to penalize the service provider for their skills and efficiency by referring to how quickly the job was done...and how easy that looked; thereby (indirectly)questioning the pricing. Easy because the men made it look easy.
Sometimes--
Customers usually don’t understand that….Skills + $$$ Equipment = Efficiency. That’s what they are paying for…sometimes it feels like if we bumbled our way through the job they’d be happier because it took longer (but only if they’re not being charged by the hour!)
dragging brush looked more like a maze to where is the chipper .. great video Blair
Joe
Still tired
Beautiful... Great works done by you guys. Wonder how old the oak is
Guessing about 100 to -120. That is based on ring count from similar sized Valley Oak removals in this area.
@@arboristBlairGlenn Wow that's impressive. Have a little one growing in our backyard, these trees growing like weed
I have the same throw ling bag too , n yes they discontinued the Bonnard system a few years back, younger climbers like the throw cube not sure why the Bonnard system is timeless ..
The cube just takes up too
Much space even when collapsed and it is only good for one throw bag setup.
@@arboristBlairGlenn agreed
Keeps you fit, all this activity!
Yes it does. And it keeps me happy too
Definitely got your aerobic points in during this job!
Too many stairs!
I believe a large majority of ppl do not appreciate or understand the work that you “ tree guys” do to complete a job safely and correctly !
It is a risky business and a lot of guys get hurt doing it.
Yeah, they definitely don't sell it anymore. I paused the video to go look for it. No sign of it on the website.
Too bad
Wise words about climber an rope guy or girl
I have often thought about collecting all the advice I would want to give a ground worker and do a training video showing all the ways of working smarter, safer and saving steps with tips and tricks. I think the first thing to do is a video asking the ideas from you all who are working this business. Start a list
One thing this video made me wonder at the 3:38 or so time, for some limbs and cuts I know you do the bottom cut with the chainsaw then cut from the top to prevent bark tear out. Do you do the same for the larger limbs that you cut with the pole saw too?
Generally that is the right way to make a cut. Sometimes, (because we understand the wood we are working with), we can get away with a fast cut. Larger limbs? No. If we are intending to clean up a polesaw cut, we will often let it rip for control. It’s all about understanding the tree we are working on.
Yep it truly is a gravity-defying tree with the way it snakes through the sky.
But kinda cool yeah?
hope your doing well
Doing just fine for an old man of 70!
Is there a reason not to use powered pole saw? I saw a municipal tree trimming crew where my parents live using one with a small (10" or 12" bar) chainsaw on a 0 foot pole when I was young. The were using it to trim back overhanging branches and brush along the road side.
We use one all the time but very awkward in a tree. Hard enough to keep your balance with a regular pole saw.
@@arboristBlairGlenn makes sense. The work crew I was remembering were operating out of the back of a truck.
Those positions in the tree aren't so hard, if you're 25 years old!
No, they are harder when you don’t have the experience. Age equals skill but slower
There is the small factor of your amazing flexibility and fitness Blair, which is a sight to behold. I think most of us would not be able to do what you and Jorge do every day!
@@nigelwylie01 that old saying “use it or lose it” is a very real thing. Staying fit is very important to me.