Man, it took me way too long to realize Daeron I was a mirror of Robb Stark. Both were 14 years old when they became King, both were brilliant military leaders and never lost a battle on the field, and both were treacherously betrayed and murdered under a false peace banner.
Then Daeron wouldn't have been King . If the Dance didn't happen and if they would have crowned Rhaenyra , after her death Jace would have been King and House Velaryon would have ruled the Seven Kingdoms Everything would have been different
@@daralcampbell2171 Well, why not both? Sure, Dragons mean you don't need to plan stuff out as usual but still, some strategy would've made all the difference, like when Jaehaerys kinda had Intel to route the Dornish fleet (not the best example but, still worked)
@nicksmithnutmilk House Strong would rule the 7 Kingdoms, you mean 🤔 Also, if the Dance never happened, it's not only assumed that the Black's get the right of way. The Dance could've been avoided had Aegon II been crowned king without issue as well But yes, either way, Daeron wouldn't be King. BUT, maybe he could've still recommended an invasion to the current King (either Aegon II or his Heir Jaehaerys) and led their forces as general, with Dark Sister perhaps instead of Blackfyre, unless the King at the time gifted Blackfyre as a symbol of command
not gonna lie i was surprised i was able to get two videos out of it. If i combine then it would be about 13 minutes so probably won't bother. Really hope fire and blood part 2 fleshes Vissy 2 out a bit more.
Never was a big fan of his, but he is a hero of Jon and Robb. And, in my book, that elevates you a lot. I'm a bigger fan of his cousin Aemon the Dragonknight
@@tuckernutter Well, the King was also his brother, therefore kin. So he's his King and his Blood, and he's a Knight of the Kingsguard, so... would've been hard to figure out his way through this without backlash, such as Jamie in a way.
He was just stupid, fighting a war over a bunch of sand dying without heirs and leaving the throne for his religious fanatic brother lol It could have been the end of the Targaryen dynasty
Baelor's peace measures are more effective than Daeron's wars. At last Dorne joined the seven kingdoms. Today only Dorne is still plot for a Targaryn restoration.
You're wrong. Balor acted very stupidly; he could easily have been killed or captured. He will die from the poison of snakes. Dorne did nothing to help Viserys and Daenerys
As per books Princess Arianne Martell was bethrted to Viserys. But his stupidity he crowned with molten gold. Arianne was going to saw the Young Griff. His brother gone to Dorne and meet Daenerys but she rejected him. Later he tried to steal a dragon. It marked his death. Dorne was always standing with Targaryns. Daenerys didn't use it.
@@sankarkrishnan407 Yeah, overall had Viserys known about the marriage pact, maybe he would've acted differently. Could've gone to Dorne before anything else And Baelor has plenty of bad actions that combat with his good, so I wouldn't say he was 100% a better king
I wonder if the lack of dragons forced daemon to be more strategic and humble in the planning. I imagine having dragons gave them such a feeling of invincibility, that strategy falls to the wayside a bit
Dead at 37 is sad. But given the vipers at court. An Aegon the fourth I think it's fair. To say that poison is not out of the question. Daeron was a war monger. B the blessed zealot should have been slipped some early on. He was what nearly destroyed his family line. Because he was a moron.
Trying to take the whole of Dorne all at once my force was a blunder I think~ Try to take and hold the Red Mountains as this is the most defensible position in Dorne then after securing that bit you can take Dorne with ease~
Maybe, but that also means you'd have to supply your army for longer as well, and taking Dorne piece-meal still has the same after effect that happens regardless if you take it all at once or not: constant Rebellion.
not that i know of, a leading theory is that knowledge of it was lost after the dance as everyone who knew died, then Rhaegar rediscovered it in a book or something along those lines
Before gods and men “Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come”
He was a warmonger who died a stupid death in the desert trying a worthless conquest of crazy sand people Besides that many fans theorize he was probably gay since he never had children or showed interest in women or getting married and spent so much time with men. He was also inspired by Alexander the Great so 🌈 yeah probably the most sissy Targaryen of all😂
It would be much smarter if Daeron just married a Dornish princess. I always wondered why he never married? He doesnt seem that intrested in women. Maybe he was gay? If he is based on Alexander the Great that would explain it.
I think part of it was he didn't think that far. Maybe he was gay. That might help explain Baelor. And his insanity with trying to make up for everyone's sins. Or perhaps Baelor was just insane. And Daeron just wanted glory like any egotistical young man. And didn't think he could die young. All very interesting theories about all of it.
Man, it took me way too long to realize Daeron I was a mirror of Robb Stark. Both were 14 years old when they became King, both were brilliant military leaders and never lost a battle on the field, and both were treacherously betrayed and murdered under a false peace banner.
Nahh Robb was killed by allies, Daeron was a warmonger killed by the people he was trying to subjugate
Pretty fair 👌
@@giovanni2585 nice troll, but no.
It’s actually praiseworthy that Daeron was able to do this without any dragons. Imagine if the DoD didn’t happen…
You could say that dragons hampered their strategy. Why focus on the army aspect if you got a nuke
we have the grey rats thank for that
Then Daeron wouldn't have been King . If the Dance didn't happen and if they would have crowned Rhaenyra , after her death Jace would have been King and House Velaryon would have ruled the Seven Kingdoms
Everything would have been different
@@daralcampbell2171
Well, why not both? Sure, Dragons mean you don't need to plan stuff out as usual but still, some strategy would've made all the difference, like when Jaehaerys kinda had Intel to route the Dornish fleet (not the best example but, still worked)
@nicksmithnutmilk
House Strong would rule the 7 Kingdoms, you mean 🤔
Also, if the Dance never happened, it's not only assumed that the Black's get the right of way. The Dance could've been avoided had Aegon II been crowned king without issue as well
But yes, either way, Daeron wouldn't be King.
BUT, maybe he could've still recommended an invasion to the current King (either Aegon II or his Heir Jaehaerys) and led their forces as general, with Dark Sister perhaps instead of Blackfyre, unless the King at the time gifted Blackfyre as a symbol of command
Can't wait for " the complete reign of visarys 2" and it's like 10 minutes long .
not gonna lie i was surprised i was able to get two videos out of it. If i combine then it would be about 13 minutes so probably won't bother. Really hope fire and blood part 2 fleshes Vissy 2 out a bit more.
@@WorldOfWesteros it'll probably talk a lot more about his time as hand and probably like 2 or 3 pages of him as king.
First Targaryen to be crowned in Vaes Dothrak (ba domp tsss)
Great 🤚
That will be awesome
Daemon would have been proud of his grandson🗿
No doubt your best synopsis yet!! I like the longer, more detailed form-keep up the good work!!
The longer videos are MONEY! KEEP IT UP
Never was a big fan of his, but he is a hero of Jon and Robb. And, in my book, that elevates you a lot. I'm a bigger fan of his cousin Aemon the Dragonknight
Young boys in westaros like to idolize war and young warriors regardless of context , at least Jon got a wake up call from benjen.
Aemon died for his honor instead of letting The Unworthy die and spare the land of his incompetence
@@thatoneblackdude3333
Well. Daeron and Aemon as a tag team was dope to think about either way.
@@tuckernutter
Well, the King was also his brother, therefore kin. So he's his King and his Blood, and he's a Knight of the Kingsguard, so... would've been hard to figure out his way through this without backlash, such as Jamie in a way.
bro what? he’s a goat for this alone 😂😂he betta than the og daeron imo
I thank you for the great video on the young Dragon Daeron!!!
He was an ambitious young king which cost him his life
Sad but true. Still a cool kid
He was just stupid, fighting a war over a bunch of sand dying without heirs and leaving the throne for his religious fanatic brother lol
It could have been the end of the Targaryen dynasty
Dorne is a damn powerhouse. God damn
Baelor's peace measures are more effective than Daeron's wars. At last Dorne joined the seven kingdoms. Today only Dorne is still plot for a Targaryn restoration.
Negotiating with foreigners sounds like a Viserys II
You're wrong. Balor acted very stupidly; he could easily have been killed or captured. He will die from the poison of snakes. Dorne did nothing to help Viserys and Daenerys
As per books Princess Arianne Martell was bethrted to Viserys. But his stupidity he crowned with molten gold. Arianne was going to saw the Young Griff. His brother gone to Dorne and meet Daenerys but she rejected him. Later he tried to steal a dragon. It marked his death. Dorne was always standing with Targaryns. Daenerys didn't use it.
Where was Dorne when Viserys and Daenerys wandered through the free cities without food?
@@sankarkrishnan407
Yeah, overall had Viserys known about the marriage pact, maybe he would've acted differently. Could've gone to Dorne before anything else
And Baelor has plenty of bad actions that combat with his good, so I wouldn't say he was 100% a better king
I wonder if the lack of dragons forced daemon to be more strategic and humble in the planning. I imagine having dragons gave them such a feeling of invincibility, that strategy falls to the wayside a bit
Id love to see a video on the lads in the dance of the dragons
Anyone else think it's weird Viserys II named a son after the man who killed his older brother
Dead at 37 is sad. But given the vipers at court. An Aegon the fourth I think it's fair. To say that poison is not out of the question. Daeron was a war monger. B the blessed zealot should have been slipped some early on. He was what nearly destroyed his family line. Because he was a moron.
How can I access the map of Westeros that you use in this video?
I should have news on this very soon, been having a few technical issues exporting at a reasonable file size.
@@WorldOfWesteros I hope it can be fixed as soon as possible, I'm just curious about the shape of the castle on the Westeros map in your video
Hail king Daeron long may he reign.
Trying to take the whole of Dorne all at once my force was a blunder I think~ Try to take and hold the Red Mountains as this is the most defensible position in Dorne then after securing that bit you can take Dorne with ease~
Maybe, but that also means you'd have to supply your army for longer as well, and taking Dorne piece-meal still has the same after effect that happens regardless if you take it all at once or not: constant Rebellion.
Despite it all Daeron did have a pretty good plan in mind. Makes you wonder what would have happened, had the Dornish not tricked him
Is there any mention or reference to whether or not the you dragon king Daeron ever came across that secret Targaryan prophecy?
not that i know of, a leading theory is that knowledge of it was lost after the dance as everyone who knew died, then Rhaegar rediscovered it in a book or something along those lines
First to take the Black 🖤
You beat me to the wall again. I think lol
Before gods and men
“Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come”
@@jeffcordova9633 🔥🔥🔥🔥🖤🖤🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
I wonder why Aegon named his son after the youngest son of Viserys and Alicent. I hope the show explores that.
Not many daerons lol
No after Daeron Velaryon
I suspect it was to stop people from trying to pretend to be daeron the daring since that happened a few times .
@@thatoneblackdude3333no it was after his wife’s dad Daeron
@@hi-ls6lt we don't know that buts it's possible
In which book this story was written bcoz in House of dragon it the books end at the reign of Aegon threee???
The World Of Ice and Fire, It's a lot more bare bones than fire and blood but as of now its all we really have for anything past Aegon iii
Should’ve killed the dornish one and all
Could he be considered a top 10 Targaryen warrior?
Pretty sure him and Maekar are the only true Warrior Kings of the Targaryen dynasty.
Daeron is my favorite Targaryen. Had the most balls out of all of them no sissy in him yes he ended up dying but he wasn’t a weak king in my opinion
He was a warmonger who died a stupid death in the desert trying a worthless conquest of crazy sand people
Besides that many fans theorize he was probably gay since he never had children or showed interest in women or getting married and spent so much time with men. He was also inspired by Alexander the Great so 🌈
yeah probably the most sissy Targaryen of all😂
He is my favorite Targaryen after Aegon V and Rhaena
He is the definition of "forever young".
Too much ambition for his own good
This guy was a true badass. One of my favorite targaryen.
he's reign might be short but legendary one
always know dornish aren't goid guys
Daemon & Rhanerya are his grandparents.
tbf it was because of him dorne came
I still dont think she died that way
Question why is this guy known as Daeron Targaryen I if there was already a Daeron Targaryen shouldn't he be known as Daeron II Targaryen
Thats because you only get a number behind your name if you are a king and the first daeron was not a king
With no dragons bro had to prove himself clever and wise… the dragons were a crutch in a sense lol
It would be much smarter if Daeron just married a Dornish princess. I always wondered why he never married? He doesnt seem that intrested in women. Maybe he was gay? If he is based on Alexander the Great that would explain it.
i suspect we may get answers on the subject of why he never married should we ever get a fire and blood part 2
Alexander the Great was not gay. He had 3 wives and loved women
I think part of it was he didn't think that far. Maybe he was gay. That might help explain Baelor. And his insanity with trying to make up for everyone's sins. Or perhaps Baelor was just insane. And Daeron just wanted glory like any egotistical young man. And didn't think he could die young. All very interesting theories about all of it.
@@TraciPeteyforlife Baelor was just a fanatic. Only the small folk liked him because they were just as religious.
Nearly every word in this comment is wrong
So Daeron I needed a regency after all
probably would have solved a lot of the issues that came as a result of his early death tbh
Dorne is a lot like Westerosi Afghanistan
Not at all lol. Dorne's people and government is way more stable.
And way more progressive towards women
Like the total opposite lmao
It is now after centures of incorporation. Not after getting dragon blasted it wasn't@@JimSty-bh1os
More like Westerosi Spain.
if only he had left a heir before die...
They need to make a show about him. A lot of similarities to Alexander the Great. Favorite Targaryen tbh
he's reign might be short but legendary one
always know dornish aren't goid guys
he's reign might be short but legendary one
always know dornish aren't goid guys