How To FINALLY Be Successful Losing Weight (Hint:Clean Your Environment) + Q & A with Dr. Doug Lisle
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Dr. Doug Lisle is an evolutionary psychologist and co-author of The Pleasure Trap: Mastering the Hidden Force that Undermines Health and Happiness. He and his colleagues (Jennifer Howk and Richard Seidel) have developed a revolutionary method for approaching life challenges and improving self-confidence and self-esteem. They describe their approach as Esteem Dynamics - an approach with clinical insights derived from evolutionary psychology.
Central figures having major influence on the development of Esteem Dynamics include Richard Dawkins, John Tooby and Leda Cosmides, David Buss, Robert Trivers, Steven Pinker, and Geoffrey Miller. All of these individuals are considered world-leading theorists in evolutionary theory and human psychology. Somewhat surprisingly, insights from these trailblazers has yet to reach mainstream clinical psychology, and thus major advances stemming from some of the world’s greatest thinkers have yet to be systematically applied to problems of helping people improve their lives. Esteem Dynamics is the first such effort, and weds Dr. Lisle’s 30-years of clinical experience to the deep insights into human nature only recently available via evolutionary psychology.
Dr. Lisle received his undergraduate education from the University of California, San Diego. He completed his Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology at the University of Virginia, and was then appointed Lecturer in Psychology at Stanford University. His research and clinical interests include health and wellness, self-esteem, relationship satisfaction, the treatment of anxiety and depression, the genetics of individual differences, and optimizing achievement motivation. In addition to his work with Esteem Dynamics, Dr. Lisle lectures widely on health and wellness.
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dealing with weight loss struggles has been a constant battle for me. Watching Dr. Doug Lisle on Chef AJ's show shed light on the importance of cleaning our environment from high-fat foods. His insights on cravings being natural responses resonated deeply. It made me realize it's not about personal faults but the challenging modern food environment. Understanding the impact of our food choices on weight and health is crucial. Lisle's emphasis on questioning assumptions and experimenting with our eating habits inspired a fresh perspective on my weight loss journey.
Having a child on the spectrum is the exact reason WHY I instituted a no junk in the house policy 20 years ago. It’s really bad for our kids. Worse than for typical kids.
That's great. I hate when parents feed their kids ton of junk food. Honestly I think it should be considered child abuse. Just like how giving them tobacco alcohol and drugs would be considered abuse. But most don't even give it a 2nd thought because that's how they themselves eat
I always get refueled by Dr Lisle. Thanks to him for giving up his time and to you AJ for having him online. Both if you are such giving people.
I really can't express how much I appreciate Dr Lisle's analysis. So different from what one hears in the UK (maybe most of the USA too!). So so so so so sick of hearing the "moderation" comment. I've started always sneaking in the "alcoholic" comment when I hear that rubbish. My very best wishes to all - may we long survive to enjoy our conflicted and beautiful world - hugs.
OMG gotta love his flow and yes I wish there were more doctors like him out there that would just cut through the b******* and get right to the point of the matter thank you so much for your realism I appreciate that
The smell on the pizza might be there but if I eat it I would be disappointed. Only the memory tastes good but it isn't all that anymore. 11 years without it. I have zero desire 😂
In gratitude ...❤
Thank you so much! I’ll bet I have listened to you and THE 3 doctors hundreds of times. Yet every time a bit more of my blind spots clear up. I am one of the people who NEEDS to do the A+ program to be a healthy weight. You help me so much! Love your book The Ultimate Secret too.
This is one of the most brilliant minds on earth! Thank you, Chef AJ, for giving him a platform!
Amen!
Truth! This man must not be censored!
I didn't realise that Doug was so fiesty just like Dr McDougall, brilliant! And finally some sound information on why I keep failing despite having good head knowledge of healthy eating. I recently changed my environment and thankfully have managed to get buy-in from the rest of the family. Thank you AJ for the chanel x
I’ve got a news update for DDL. My best friend is an anthropologist who did her PhD work with the bushmen of the Kalahari in the 1970s in Botswana. She has returned periodically over the past 45 years. Most are not hunter-gatherers any longer. They predominately live in towns in the 21st century and are not skinny anymore.
Absolutely, the very best episode so far! Work diligently cleaning up your environment and then maintenance will be equally important and equally challenging 😎🎉❤️
Reading the Pleasure Trap several years ago changed my life like no other thing ever has 👏🏼🙌🏼
AMEN! Dr Lisle should be on every network! He is absolutely THE BEST!
Funny to see Dr Lisle get riled up as AJ predicted when the Gabor Mate question was asked 😂 I so enjoy listening to him!!
Thanks Dr. Lisle, great information, we know a lot, but we need to be reminded!
I try to always have extra potatoes for those times I want to get more food. Same thing with banana’s, if I want something sweet.👍
Dr. Lisle is THE BEST!!!❤❤
Fantastic clarity from Dr. Lisle here! Loved this episode, it makes so much sense! Thanks Chef AJ 🙏
This is the BEST , such a gift Dr. Lisle and Chef AJ. Thank you so much! From someone married to a skinny husband!!
Chef AJ, you are glowing! Thank you for being a model of health and kindness in 2024. You are a delightful part of my weekly routine in nurturing my clean environment!😊
"The cold"- that's cute.
Writing from a snowy and indeed very cold Sweden 🥶
I realize and promote that everyone has a right to their opinion. However, now I will take whatever Dr. Lisle says with a grain of non salt! I agree with your other listeners that he was disrespectful of Dr. Gabor Mate and all the work he has done for people. Perhaps it was ill informed or the question was taken out of context by the listener. That being said - I love most all of your guests! Thank you.
Dr Lisle is just excellent! Love his videos. Thank you Chef AJ!
This was an amazing episode with Dr. Lisle. He is brutally honest and I laughed out loud a couple of times, but Kathy Hester making goat milk tomorrow without goats was the hilarious cherry on top! You both are amazing AJ, and it’s always so interesting to hear Dr.Lisle weigh in on the questions.
Was she gonna make goat cheese? Lol
I needed this. Really needed it. I lost over 40 pounds a few years ago when I switched from junk food vegan to WFPB. I've been backsliding badly and have gained back more than half of that. I feel miserable but can't seem to beat the addiction. 😢
I’m in the same boat. 😢
Please please please do not allow people who are not in agreement with what Dr. Lisle says censor his opinions. I never expect to agree with anyone 100% not even God! My disagreement does not mean I am right or they are wrong. There was a comment below by someone who said that they were going to buy his book until they heard this interview. People's expectations today that they must be exposed only to whet they think is so bad. IMHO....it is what is wrong with today's society. We are weaker as a result. DO NOT CENSOR DR. LISLE. Please have the courage to continue to be an advocate for all voices.
Someone making their own personal decision not to buy his book is not censoring.
I don't always agree with what many of y guests say but I have to respect there right to say it. I would LOVE to have Dr MAte on but he has never responded to my requests. Thanks for your comment.
@@CHEFAJthis, 1000%. For most authors, & speakers, what they write/share has been true for THEM. With 8 billion people on the planet -there will always be exceptions to “their” experience. Sometimes, they’re just flat out wrong about an issue. Seldom are they wrong about everything.
Happy new year everybody and dear Chef AJ, and Doug Lisle !!! ❤❤❤!!!
LOVE this guy and his direct comments....and curse words. Tells it all.....
OMGoodness ❤❤❤ that was awesome! Love Dr. Lyle’s no B.S. approach to these questions and answers! The last question and answers was just the best!
Thank you AJ and Dr Lisle this was easy for me and my husband, I struggle with being judgemental about this and this helps, both of you have helped me more than you know❤❤❤❤❤
Chef AJ you got DDL fired up with that last question ! LOL
Happy New Year
In defense of Dr. Gabor Maté, I’m not sure the listener’s question was an accurate summarization of his philosophy. 🤷🏽♂️ And he’s not really “in this space” , if this space is lifestyle medicine whole food plant based eating. That’s not really his bag, I don’t think.
Thank you! 🥦❤
Oh such a good class. Thank you 🙏🏼
I was about to go to sleep until I saw this and I can't lose an episode...then he says it's just my brain telling I might lose information if I don't listen now. Hits home! I'll be careful next time.
I love Dr. Doug Lisle. He is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I gave this video a thumbs up. But he is wrong about bread. I spent my whole life eating plain bread, especially sourdough. When I was in my 20s and 30's I would buy a whole loaf or large round of sourdough or extra sourdough bread and eat it - the whole thing - for lunch. I hate butter. And I always thought that putting anything on the bread would detract from it's delicious taste and texture. My husband is also the same - in fact he is still happy to take a whole loaf of any bread and eat it plain - for lunch or dinner. We have witnesses. Plain bread by itself - no chaser. We love plain bread- it is delicious all by itself.
So good!
Gabor mate applies his own childhood problems to his theory .
I love Dr. Lisle
Oh my goodness this was gold! Dr Lisle fired up over the abused rats scenario had me laughing out loud. I personally can't stand Dr Gabor Mate's message. He reduces everything down to childhood trauma. Well guess what Dr Mate, my childhood was loving and stable and my kind caring supportive parents died in their 80's. I was still a binge eater. My husband was a very loving kind caring man who adored me and I still binged. I personally believe it is genetic for me as I recall right from very young being obsessed with food. My parents were normal eaters and food was never in short supply nor were we made to finish our food etc. I never knew my mother to be on a diet so this was not learned behavior. Both my brother and I struggle with food addiction and binge eating in spite of our upbringing. It's got to be genetic surely?
This is THE TRUTH! It's the environment. I am like this person as far as loving family and lack of trauma in my life. For about the last 5 or 6 years I've switched my died over to WFPB, SOS free, mostly raw, and, as a result, all my health issues have disappeared. Also, as long as I load up on dark, leafy greens (from breakfast through dinner), I no longer have food cravings. If I start having migraines, I know it's because I have been eating too many nuts, dried fruits, dry food, or because I have not been exercising. Friends think my diet is extreme and advocate for moderation, but this works for me. I'm sure Dr. Mate has good intentions, but he is wasting people's time and health. They probably do want and need therapy, but to get rid of health problems they need Dr. Lisle's advice.
but I have learned a lot from listening and know what I need to do to help myself overcome this...
This was really good. I ordered The Pleasure Trap.
What an amazing video, every answer a gem that will help so many people. Thank you thank you thank you Chef AJ and Dr Lisle, you are the best!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was a fat kid growing up and I never experienced abuse or severe childhood trauma. I was addicted to junk food. Now, I stick to foods with low calorie density. I eat as much as I want and my BMI is less than 22.
Dr Smo 🤣 😂
Dr Lisle you’re the best!
I’m/we are ethical vegans which makes keeping my environment clean much easier as I am “NEVER ” tempted to bring in foods with animal products. ….but I do have a problem with bread and pasta! Lucky for me my son (also on the spectrum with food sensory issues) does not eat bread so I can keep that out (hard for me) ..but thank you Dr Lisle for making it clear that it’s not the bread alone but what we put on it!!! Omgoodness after all these years I’ve been blaming the bread alone!!
Oh and I believe Dr Gabriel Mattee says we also take on and carry our mother’s trauma in the first years of our lives.
I"d never thought about the reason so many people gained weight was not because of sudden abuse in families but because there was the sudden influx of fast, crap food. Makes sense to me! Whew! Now I can just let go of those old stories and continue to eat life giving, healthy Whole Foods to thrive! Yay!
Dr Gabor Mate was talking about PTSD being the base cause for our mental health conditions
I could easily eat a loaf of bread on its own. Grains are addictive. Dr Joan Ifland understands this and I don't think it's uncommon.
Can't have Ezekiel wraps or frozen Ezekiel cinnamon Raisin bread in my house either
20 meters left or right everywhere in Prague. Bakeries everywhere. I smell them every step I take.
Min 45 - I eat bread as bread. I'll eat half a loaf, but not USA white bread types - those make me want to eat the entire thing and not feel like I ate anything. I have absolutely no weight, fat , or other health issues. So I'm a diamond - rare! In german bread without anything on it is "Trockenesbrot", my deceased MIL would say that with a look of horror on her face.
You don't have to physically lock up your phone. There are apps/settings to restrict usage directly on the phone.
I luv you dr. Lyle your so right on diet ❤😊
H freedman: I have a comment about the last question chef AJ read to Dr, Lisle and his response:
The question was about Dr Gabor Matè’s work with childhood trauma and it wanted to know dr. lisle’s opinion about “Childhood trauma carrying into adulthood?” And Chef AJ added that she “assumed” that the questioner was asking about childhood trauma and food, (which the questioner didn’t seem to have asked.)
This sent Dr Lisle on a 17 minute unprofessional, angry and gratuitously nasty rant about the ignorance and incompetence of Dr Mate whom he didn’t know and yet referred to him as “Dr Schmo” among other derogatory names and comments. Dr. Lisle owes Dr Matè an apology for his nasty rant which had nothing to do with Dr matès excellent lifetime work with trauma - he is 78 years old and a holocaust survivor. I have lost respect for Dr lisle for his attitude and behavior.
Unfortunately he doesn't look at the comments but if you feel strongly I would encourage you to contact him. I don't think he even knows ho Dr Mate is and the weight loss was thrown in because for years we have both heard from countless people that the reason they can't lose weight was because of childhood trauma. I don't always agree with what many of y guests say but I have to respect there right to say it. I would LOVE to have Dr MAte on but he has never responded to my requests. Thanks for your comment.
I don't always agree with what many of my guests say but I have to respect their right to say it. I would LOVE to have Dr Mate on but he has never responded to my requests. Thanks for your comment.
1:12:28 These hilariously practical answers are the reasons I love Dr. Lisle 😂 Straight talk 👍🏼
You were right, AJ- he got mad!!🤣🤣🤣❤️
I disagree with his comment on bread. I can eat a half loaf to prob the whole loaf of freshly baked sour dough bread with nothing on it. However not wonder bread
No, I am overweight because I have a sugar addiction, which means I DON'T eat like other people.....and the sugar does make me overweight...
Has AJ shared the strawberry shake Dr Lisle loves. Is ther a recipe somewhere??
I have cleaned my environment many times: tens of times.
But I have a car and there is a supermarket 5 minutes away. How do I stop myself getting into the car and buying new junk food from the shop?
There are no crocodiles between where I live and the shop. I live alone. Help!
Is the strawberry shake just strawberries blended ?
By the tittle I thought you were going to talk about hoarders, clutter that kind of clean up your environment. Do you already have a talk like that? Talking about how all that can affect how we eat? State of mind as far as stress & what that does to the body. I never realized how much stress I carry and how that has affected my IBS colitis I had pancreatitis and yes I am not ignoring the fact that my habits were not great. I am improving but stress is ugly.
Also interested in how it affects people with not only stress but anxiety depression even ptsd. In all that it affects the body. I hear people talk about there are many people that struggle with ptsd. There are so many different things that affect us and throw a wrench in our everyday struggle to be fit. Thank you.
What is his eating wet starch 6 point checklist? Anyone have this or can link it? Sounds interesting!
He calls it starch targets
00:39:30. Nailed it.
Or the butter I keep for my dogs
Environment is such a key factor. It is absolutely more challenging, when you have unhealthy food in the house for "other members" of the family. The Treasure Trap was a great book. Regarding the "controversial" part towards the end of this interview, I don't see why it is all or nothing in terms of trauma vs. environment. BOTH things can be true. Yes, trauma can cause many unwanted self "soothing behaviors" (not just around food) AND it is our environment that can help and/or hurt how we process, proceed and react to trauma. I agree with Dr. Lisle that if it is not around, you can't have it! I also believe that if someone is living with trauma they never dealt with, they may continue to live a life that strives to soothe themselves through ways that may be destructive to themselves.
Haha! I like looking at it in the terms of being efficient at storage
I would think a lot of people can and do eat a loaf of bread in one sitting ? Is Mcdougall fine with that if there is no fat on the bread ?
Omg sooo true amen
????Im single now, plant based Whole Foods for two years. I have a couple health issues and an extra 20 lbs. Have you considered having a True North dating website? I hope to spend a couple weeks at TN in spring but I know when I get home NO ONE in my orbit or date will eat like this. All joking a side it’s a just a thought and would be cool:)💜
My personal suggestion to people who cannot stop this or that. I understand you, I am food addict. I landed in my 60s with autoimmune disease thanks to vegan junk food. So, please EDUCATE yourself what it does to your health. Listen to everything about what animal based diet, sugar, junk does to you. If it still doesn’t work and you harm yourself by making yourself knowingly sick, you need psychotherapy or over eaters anonymous, because your problem is sitting very deep in you.
Spouse, in-laws, kids, no control
I think this is a case of correlation not causation?
I wonder if Drs protocol for loosing weight also applies and will work for type 1 diabetic
Yes, berries with greens. Look up Mastering Diabetes. You'll get many answers there or Dr. Marbas also helps.
Ok, what’s in that strawberry shake besides the frozen strawberries? I’d love to know !Thanks so much for a great interview!
@@luluandmeow, so many people in U.S. crave sweets & treats from the bakery because they're not eating whole food starches at home.
I asked for the ingredients - not a lecture.
AJ you should have Gabor Mate on and invite Doug Lyle so me can apologize and even learn something.
Who can apologize?
I invited hi but he doesn't respond to my emails.
I agree he was way out of line. If this is what WFPB is count me out. I rather be fat.
I would LOVE to have Dr Mate on but he has never responded to my requests. Thanks for your comment.
Yes it’s jelly!
Dr Lisle, did you know that the study of DNA has disproved evolution? I notice that you mention evolution in every talk
Dr. Lisle takes on the famous Dr. Mate's and calls him a quack. He needs to do some investigating.
I think it would be almost better to reframe the last question, which actually was about the relationship between weight gain and childhood trauma.
However it would be really nice to talk deeply, and extensively in a new episode, and not linked to weight gain or other addictive behaviors, which are all substances/situations that weren’t available in the paleo world!
….about how distortions are built in the nervous system, regarded and worked on/ worked with from an evolutionary psychology angle, and how trauma is addressed or thought about ??!!
And then eventually start exploring if it makes some of us more susceptible/vulnerable to addictions too….
I’d love that !!!
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Drl LIsle doesn't read the comments but feel free to eail your question to Help@ChefAJ.com as he is a monthly guest.
I really liked this until the last 20 minutes or so when he went off the rails and started making the same sort of “I just know” assumptions about all sorts of things, and after he spent so much time criticizing other doctors for doing this! Was going to buy his book, but prob not now. I’m not a big fan of the psych doctors in this vegan space. I’ll stick with the cardiologists and internists.
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Im going to bet that the lady eating nuts, greens, and beans isnt eating the amount Lisle is assume.
My learned colleague Dr. Schmo hahahaha.
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I found Dr. Lisle’s comments about Dr. Maté very inappropriate and disrespectful, especially since he appears to have no knowledge of Dr. Maté’s work. There was no need to be so aggressive and insulting.
I KNEW he'd be upset by the question and didn't want to ask it but the person had emailed the question any times
@@CHEFAJ unfortunately I think he upset quite a few people and will lose credibility in their eyes 🤷♀️
@@gaililimaroberts3229 It's certainly possible however interestingly enough some people did agree wit5h him. I just emailed Dr. MAte again inviting him to be on my show
Doesn't matter if some people agreed with him. It doesn't change the fact that Dr. Lisle's rant was disgusting! @@CHEFAJ
@@CHEFAJ let’s hope!
Chef AJ, didn't you also start spinning 1 hour a day at around the same time you stopped eating nuts?
No as I had a broken knee. I started exercising strictly for mental health reasons and not until AFTER is lost 47 or these 50 pounds in fact.
Thank you Chef AJ. Exercise really improves my mental health as well. @@CHEFAJ
@@Elizabeth-dg8dn He told me it was my anti-anxiety medicine
I'm sorry, what was your anti-anxiety med?@@CHEFAJ
@@Elizabeth-dg8dn daily vigorous exercise of at least ONE HOUR upon arising
Oh goodness lol. I just ate a lot of plain, no toasted, nothing on it bread. I do find hes out of touch bc hes naturally into the habits that make him such a thin man.
I wish I watched this video at the time. I’m sorry you were on the receiving end of such vitriol Chef AJ! When I first watched Dr Mate I thought he was interesting but after seeing many of his videos I now think he’s a 🦆
about Mate
“This Shrink”
A “fraud”
Extremely disrespectful at all levels I’m surprised at Dr Lyle
Sorry Chef AJ I’m quite frankly disappointed
I don't always agree with what many of my guests say but I have to respect there right to say it. I would LOVE to have Dr Mate on but he has never responded to my requests. Thanks for your comment.
@@CHEFAJ you are one of my most favourite channels Chef AJ and this will never change
Thank you for taking the time to respond. I understand how difficult it is to get any response from Gabor Mate but he is truly someone who is well respected in his field for good reason….
Wishing you the very best this 2024……..and looking forward to continuing to follow you and learning through you and your guests 💕
I understand that no matter how fat a person is.... if you change their environment, they will lose weight. But if you look at people over 600 lbs , many of them claim they've been sexually abused as a child. All the time, on the show ' my 600 lb. Life', patients claim this. So what does that mean? Could it be that sexually abused people use food to cope and become extremely obese.... if the food is available?
A lot of them are mental & dealing with a mental illness !
They also ALL live in an unclean environment and/or have an enabler who is bringing them the food. 80% of weight is HERITABLE so most of a person's weight is caused by their genes not exeriences.
@@CHEFAJ i see.... interesting.
i admire this man and his passion for the truth! Good for him on calling Dr. Schmoo to the mat on his logic and lumping him with Dr. Atkins was the best!!!! TRUTH DR. LISLE. Brilliant man...not always easy to listen to but I will always tune in for this amazing man.
Dr. Lisle is quite arrogant. I suggest he read a few of Dr. Gabor Mate's books before making judgments based on, sorry to say, his own ignorance. There is more going on than just the pleasure trap. And, the fact that he has not even heard of Dr. Mate says a lot about him.
The vast majority of people are in the middle of the bell shaped curve. Most of us are very average. Why do we spend 95% of our time talking about the .01% of people? Normal people are boring and normal.
Bad logic, Dr. Lisle. It was never said that obesity is the only manifestation of child abuse.
Different people different body chemistry ⚗️ 😊
Oh… I’m the listener that has repeatedly sat down and ate a half loaf of naked bread, in one sitting. My nickname is “bread perv”. It is a problem for me, like chocolate can be for some. 🫣