Every part or package I've bought from Banks over the years, from a 6.9 Ford to a new L5P in a GMC has worked perfectly right out of the box. They even helped with getting a 5.9 Cummins running correctly in an F450. Having bought a lot of performance parts over the years for both gas and diesel engines, Banks has been the best choice over and over. They don't over-promise and they do deliver. Pure race parts are something different but if you drive it every day this is what works. What else could you ask for these days than someone that does their best and tells the truth? No, I don't work for Banks, and no I don't get a discount for being nice here.
It's the engineering and testing that sets Banks aside, but its the knowledge and or the curiosity to know that sets the bar and we are the beneficiaries! Thank you Gale and your Banks Team!
I've had my Ford 11 years & have tried an Edge, a 6 way "chip" & a Banks(which I bought on EBAY for $40) on my 99 Ford F350 which pulls a 10,000# gvw horse trailer & same GVW car trailer most of the time. The Banks has been by far the best. Best power, best fuel economy, best shifting, lowest EGTs & ZERO black exhaust smoke. Not sure I'd spend $600 on this for an "experiment". Banks has ALWAYS been the leader in diesel performance. Banks is also the ONLY tuner manufacturer(regardless of gas or diesel) I've ever spoken to that told me they'd "unlock" it for free, if it was VIN locked when I got it. Just ran almost 400 miles running 65 mph pulling the horse trailer with some pretty big hills in very high winds, including in & out of Death Valley(3,000 ft to 200 below sea level & back out) & averaged 11.9 mpg & EGTs never over 1,000 degrees. Can go to southern Kali & cops never look at me because there's never any black smoke which is just wasted fuel! Other minimal mods are the International 203* T-stat & 70# primary fuel pressure spring & the DeiselSite adjustable mechanical waste gate controller set at 30# boost.
@@justin02b Banks Power "We have a plan to address both the LWN and LM2 engines (sometime around Q2). Right now, both projects are currently on hold. We are trying to finish a few GM 6.6L L5P '17-'19/'20 projects before we continue development on the 2.8L LWN and 3.0L LM2 engines."
@@cam872k3 I got the same response. Assuming work has been done on it previously, I figure it will take them at minimum 3 months of further work to perfect it. Meaning at earliest, Q3 2020 assuming they don't invest all their time into the 3.0 in the silverado. Kinda upsetting since the engine has been out since the 2016 model year.
I love how you teach us things like this. I was wondering how you felt about an EFI Live tuner with anarchy tuning after having had the emotions deleted on a stock turbo and stock head gaskets.
The Man himself decimates all who stand in way with Knowledge and Logic on his side. Builds parts, R&D's them and teaches the masses there is always a better way to do things! Much props and mad Respect To Banks! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Gale I have two questions regarding your products: 1. When is the intercooler for the 10-12 Ram Cummins going to be available to the market? 2. Is the derringer in development for the 6.7 Cummins just like it was for the power stroke and duramax?
As soon as I sell all my sports cards I am getting all of his stuff for my 2018 ram 2500 6.7l saw another guy have everything in his duely and it was getting 21 to 26 mpg wow 🤩 the savings over 10 years just wow
I can think of a few ways to make this even better; - Different tuning modes, wirelessly controlled via an app or something. - Telemetry logging for various diagnostic stuff, to detect error codes and whatnot. There are many OBD-II-based tools for highly technical troubleshooting out there that you could draw inspiration from. - Maybe some kind of machine learning so that it can make its tuning even better as it learns your driving style and vehicle characteristics? - An easter egg in the software to amuse anyone taking a deeper look at it. - Wireless updating of its software? I'd buy that~
We don't have a Derringer inline tuner for the LML yet, but we do have a programmer called the Automind. It can add up to +135 HP & +240 lb-ft. Part # 66411 Right now we are working on the 3.0L EcoDiesels, 6.7L Cummins and the PowerStroke. www.bankspower.com/i-2132
@@bankspower yes I'm waiting for the Derringer... don't know why the lml got skipped over. Shyyyy 😔 Guess yall just figure warranty is out on most trucks who cares. Gonna just order the automind 2 and pedal monster. There are not any real good vids on UA-cam with tuner reviews for lml
I would like to see you make some dyno vids on several of the major tuners on stock trucks before and after the tuner applications. I would like to see your low end Automind included in these test, and not just your top end products. I would also like to see your thoughts on Calibrated Power and HP tuners.
Please be okay Mr. Banks because we need your tuners for our 6.7 Cummins sir. I want to do things differently with my 2021 RAM 2500 sir. I deleted everything on my 2015 but i would love to just not delete and still get better performance and have it run cleaner. You can do it!!! 💪💪💪
Gotta try one of those double Whoppers!! Another GREAT video Gale! BTW, I just ordered one of your differential covers for my 2021 F250. After watching your video explaining and illustrating all the benefits, the “looks BITCHIN” comment convinced me. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
@@persistentwind ya so they can find a cure for cancer then get shit by the government because they dont wanna cure causes they wanna create big pharma customers
4:31 lol 😂 I laughed so hard when that jack ass in the video put his face in the black smoke😅!! But Mr Banks you sir are a legend I love your videos and it's a bonus when they're funny
Will this tuner work with a flashed ecu with dpf and egr delete? Just wondering if the inline tuner will effect the flash tune on the ecm. I know it counterintuitive but if a truck it already delete with shock tune will it work as good.
We have a plan to address both the LWN and LM2 engines (sometime around Q2). Right now, both projects are currently on hold. We are trying to finish a few GM 6.6L L5P '17-'19/'20 projects before we continue development on the 2.8L LWN and 3.0L LM2 engines.
I wish they would. I had a 2.8 in a 12 passenger Express van, and that sucker averaged 21mpg for the 35,000 miles we owned it. It was awesome, except for regen issues we always had to go to the dealer for, to make them force regen it.
My question is when will the Banks team release a real ECU to replace the stock unit. Currently only Motec in Australia offer wire-in or some plug in replacement units for diesel engines. (Well there are also some Bosch motorsport ECU's as well but big $$.) I'd be curious to know what electronic package Gale and the team are using on their high power duramax engines? I somewhat expect it is not simple inline tuner ;)
I’ve been asking the question when are they going to make one for the 2.8 L Duramax apparently they don’t want our money I would love to have one for my ZR2 2020 baby Duramax
I need a Daringer for my Cummins 8.3 CAPS unit.. I once had a unit that Banks made that was great. But you longer make one for my 2000 cummins 8.3 CAPS motorhome. Please help..
Great explanation. Can you guys go into why you dropped the Cummins 6.7 Derringer? Sounds like it was already maxed out from the factory/maybe transmission sucked too much to even bother lol
We didn't drop the Derringer for the Cummins. To be frank, Gale and the team were not happy with the hp and tq output. So, last fall they scrapped the design and have been working on since then. The RAM requires pulse-width and timing to make significant increases in power. That requires a new circuit board, etc, which are in-process. 👍
I wish Banks would invest more on their Flash Tuners for Gasoline Vehicles. I would buy one instantly. More so because I live on an area where there are no Experienced/Educated HP Tuners I would trust my Truck to...
I know a big majority of Raptor owners want to add power but don’t want the footprint. Is there a Derringer module in the making??😉😉😉 I loved the one for my F250 and would love to see what y’all can do with the Raptor motor!
Looking for something to improve my towing. I travel/live full time in a 40' 5th wheel that weighs 14,000 lbs. Looking to get a Banks Speedbrake but is there something else I should do as well to improve towing performance? Maybe a Banks EconoMind or what? Or just do the Speedbrake and leave everything else stock? Oh....2006 GMC 2500HD LBZ, air bags.
Two questions... I already installed a one of the modules you mentioned that just adds fuel claiming to save you fuel. Do you think I should take it off? Is it causing damage? Question 2. When will you have a tuner for the ram 6.7. I only picked that worse tuner cause you don't have one. Now I'm questioning that choice.
Suggestion for the video editor, the voice and music levels need to be equalized. A good video shouldn't have to turn down for music, and crank it up for voice.
The Derringer and PedalMonster are designed to deliver power and throttle boost when you need it. They're not designed to increase fuel economy. Therefore, we do not advertise fuel economy gains. Fuel economy depends on many variables including how you drive.
I will keep my old school 1996 7.3 that yes I have a vary milled tuner on it (Bully Dog). to get better MPG and yes after having it installed for over 175k miles I can say I do get a good 3 MPG more. and over all the truck has 266k miles on it. F250 work truck. in this case the extra fuel is cheaper in the long run I pull a 16K trailer all the time.
Your tuner(and mine, on my '00) is a flash-tuner, so it can affect the timing, max boost(or at least ignore 'overboost' conditions), and control the trans shift pressures... a lot more than a dumb inline tuner(the "10K" mod on a 7.3 PSD basically). Also, it sure looks like the modern trucks are designed around the turbo's flow characteristics and push them to the max, vs the old 7.3s which had plenty of 'headroom' in terms of air that could be gained from a stock setup.
Have you all finished the 12 Ram tuner for the off road yet? Or, a tune that will not clog up the dpf for the 12 ram. There are not many options out there and I need to make it a off road truck. It is clogging itself up with two turbo's. And so much fuel in the oil. I run 100% AMS oil and can't get max oil change intervals with oil analysis. I have a bypass system too... Grrr!!!
How about semi trucks. Truck drivers and owner operators love upgrading their truck I would like see Banks power build power tuners for them. I have a freightliner Cascadea with a DD15. I'd like to make it move some freight.
As of now, we don't have plans to. We are focused primarily on light duty and medium pick-up trucks. The other thing is, semi-truck use a different CAN-BUS OBD protocol.
I have a 2007-1/2 3500 4x4 Dually with the 6.7 Cummins which I had to delete at 100K miles due to it was all plugged up and was only getting 13 mpg at 65mph and continually plugging the dpf, oh just to clear it up I bought the truck used at 94K miles. So I'm wondering would a Derringer work on my deleted truck and get the performance and fuel economy that my Smarty JR set at Towing 75hp gets me 18-19 at 78-80mph
In an older (but well taken care of) Ram with a 5.9, I've never cared about a DPF. EGTs and MPG are my concerns. I can consistently get 23 MPG if I can keep the EGTs low and 16 towing a travel trailer(I tapped a thermocouple and gage). The smarty tuner helped a bit. How does this tuner compare?
Very attentive to details here. I would like to ask you Banks Power or Mr. Gale Banks as you have been perfecting Derringer for the light to medium duty engine sector, would this same system possibly be a a good fit if developed properly for heavy duty and class 8 heavy truck engines?
The Derringer for 2013+ Cummins 6.7L was taken back to the drawing board. We had a tuner that we were testing and ended up scraping; it wasn't up to Gale's standard. We are now trying and all-new method of tuning for the 2013+ Cummins 6.7L trucks . We don’t have a release date yet because it is still earlier in the R&D phase right now. We always like to get it right! Engineering is in our name, which means that we have to tinker with a product until its the best that it can be. Sorry that we don't have more information to go on right now.
We are currently working on the LML ('11-'16) Duramax Derringer. We didn't get the results we wanted on the first run so we are looking into a different hardware set up. We always like to get it right! Engineering is in our name, which means that we have to tinker with a product until its the best that it can be. Sorry that we don't have more information to go on right now.
The Derringer is designed for complete emissions intact engines only. If the truck is missing EGR, CAT, DPF, DEF, or SCR it will not be able to make the necessary performance calculations.
Hey Gale, long time viewer and I have a quick question. Are you guys planning on getting into Jeep territory now that they have finally released the 3.0 EcoDiesel V6 for the Wrangler?! Seriously impressive in stock form, can only imagine once it has been Banksified.
@@24sevvin It will support a range of years from 18 to 20 based on the parts I have seen available for the years. They are all very similar engines and will likely benefit the most from combining the tweaks out of the 20 and merging them with the 18.
@@monsterram6617 no thanks, Banks is the only guy who knows what's actually going on when tuning. None of these other companies have the data that banks uses to tune
For now, we have no plans to offer the Derringer for the 5.9L Cummins engines because we already offer two tuners for gen of Dodge/Ram trucks. Six-Gun: www.bankspower.com/i-2742 Economind: www.bankspower.com/i-2741
We have no plans for a Derringer with that generation of Duramax due to the fact that we already two tuners for. We offer the Six-Gun and the Economind. Six-Gun: www.bankspower.com/i-2723 Economid: www.bankspower.com/i-2716
I love how Gale teaches all the others how to build tuners..... love this stuff
Banks mods anything and everything with proper engineering. My man 👌🏻👌🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Every part or package I've bought from Banks over the years, from a 6.9 Ford to a new L5P in a GMC has worked perfectly right out of the box. They even helped with getting a 5.9 Cummins running correctly in an F450. Having bought a lot of performance parts over the years for both gas and diesel engines, Banks has been the best choice over and over. They don't over-promise and they do deliver. Pure race parts are something different but if you drive it every day this is what works. What else could you ask for these days than someone that does their best and tells the truth? No, I don't work for Banks, and no I don't get a discount for being nice here.
As long as Rev. Bank is gonna preach, ''Ima sit here in my pew 'an listen.
Amen
I’d like to think with Gales high level of income, and modern advancements to technology, we can only hope he can live to be 150, maybe 200.
Love the explanation. Waiting for the 6.7 Cummins version to finally show up.
It's the engineering and testing that sets Banks aside, but its the knowledge and or the curiosity to know that sets the bar and we are the beneficiaries! Thank you Gale and your Banks Team!
I will never own a diesel. But I love watching Gale Banks videos.
He is a legend!
Keep making videos like this and this channel is going to BLOW UP
I’m loving all these new videos. I may not have a power house but it’s mine.
Love Gale puttin everyone on blast 👍🏼
2:50 I learned something new. Diesels running rich, run hot.
Gas engines running rich, the opposite, they run cooler.
That's some cool shit right there
I've had my Ford 11 years & have tried an Edge, a 6 way "chip" & a Banks(which I bought on EBAY for $40) on my 99 Ford F350 which pulls a 10,000# gvw horse trailer & same GVW car trailer most of the time. The Banks has been by far the best. Best power, best fuel economy, best shifting, lowest EGTs & ZERO black exhaust smoke. Not sure I'd spend $600 on this for an "experiment". Banks has ALWAYS been the leader in diesel performance. Banks is also the ONLY tuner manufacturer(regardless of gas or diesel) I've ever spoken to that told me they'd "unlock" it for free, if it was VIN locked when I got it. Just ran almost 400 miles running 65 mph pulling the horse trailer with some pretty big hills in very high winds, including in & out of Death Valley(3,000 ft to 200 below sea level & back out) & averaged 11.9 mpg & EGTs never over 1,000 degrees. Can go to southern Kali & cops never look at me because there's never any black smoke which is just wasted fuel! Other minimal mods are the International 203* T-stat & 70# primary fuel pressure spring & the DeiselSite adjustable mechanical waste gate controller set at 30# boost.
Gale you are an amazing man love this video I learned a lot
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching. Stay tuned for more education and entertainment.
My only question is when am I going to have the Derringer available for my 2.8 Duramax???
I emailed banks this question months ago. The response I got was "I havent heard. But likely we are." Doesn't give a lot of confidence.
@@cam872k3 what bothers me is there used to be some social media images of Colorado's being worked on but then they were pulled
I want this info also ... frustrating
@@justin02b Banks Power "We have a plan to address both the LWN and LM2 engines (sometime around Q2). Right now, both projects are currently on hold. We are trying to finish a few GM 6.6L L5P '17-'19/'20 projects before we continue development on the 2.8L LWN and 3.0L LM2 engines."
@@cam872k3 I got the same response. Assuming work has been done on it previously, I figure it will take them at minimum 3 months of further work to perfect it. Meaning at earliest, Q3 2020 assuming they don't invest all their time into the 3.0 in the silverado. Kinda upsetting since the engine has been out since the 2016 model year.
I love how you teach us things like this.
I was wondering how you felt about an EFI Live tuner with anarchy tuning after having had the emotions deleted on a stock turbo and stock head gaskets.
The Man himself decimates all who stand in way with Knowledge and Logic on his side. Builds parts, R&D's them and teaches the masses there is always a better way to do things! Much props and mad Respect To Banks! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
More like a blowhard know it all.
My L5P with Derringer & Banks Intake runs 14.09 - 14.15 @ sea level at 98 MPH
Good job Gale Banks, keep up the excellent work
Gale I have two questions regarding your products:
1. When is the intercooler for the 10-12 Ram Cummins going to be available to the market?
2. Is the derringer in development for the 6.7 Cummins just like it was for the power stroke and duramax?
As soon as I sell all my sports cards I am getting all of his stuff for my 2018 ram 2500 6.7l saw another guy have everything in his duely and it was getting 21 to 26 mpg wow 🤩 the savings over 10 years just wow
I can think of a few ways to make this even better;
- Different tuning modes, wirelessly controlled via an app or something.
- Telemetry logging for various diagnostic stuff, to detect error codes and whatnot. There are many OBD-II-based tools for highly technical troubleshooting out there that you could draw inspiration from.
- Maybe some kind of machine learning so that it can make its tuning even better as it learns your driving style and vehicle characteristics?
- An easter egg in the software to amuse anyone taking a deeper look at it.
- Wireless updating of its software? I'd buy that~
Lml? When will it come out?
We don't have a Derringer inline tuner for the LML yet, but we do have a programmer called the Automind. It can add up to +135 HP & +240 lb-ft. Part # 66411
Right now we are working on the 3.0L EcoDiesels, 6.7L Cummins and the PowerStroke.
www.bankspower.com/i-2132
@@bankspower yes I'm waiting for the Derringer... don't know why the lml got skipped over. Shyyyy 😔
Guess yall just figure warranty is out on most trucks who cares. Gonna just order the automind 2 and pedal monster. There are not any real good vids on UA-cam with tuner reviews for lml
Putting all the bad tuners on blast!
I would like to see you make some dyno vids on several of the major tuners on stock trucks before and after the tuner applications. I would like to see your low end Automind included in these test, and not just your top end products. I would also like to see your thoughts on Calibrated Power and HP tuners.
He's a national treasure, love this guy! 🇺🇸
Gale, your The Man ! When will Banks release a Cummins 6.7L Derringer Inline Tuner ?
Please do
Please be okay Mr. Banks because we need your tuners for our 6.7 Cummins sir. I want to do things differently with my 2021 RAM 2500 sir. I deleted everything on my 2015 but i would love to just not delete and still get better performance and have it run cleaner. You can do it!!! 💪💪💪
Gotta try one of those double Whoppers!! Another GREAT video Gale! BTW, I just ordered one of your differential covers for my 2021 F250. After watching your video explaining and illustrating all the benefits, the “looks BITCHIN” comment convinced me. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
If someone in the pharmaceutical world did what gale does with tuning they would come up missing lol
Isn't that the truth.... sad tho but true
Or we could teach doctors to find the cause rather than treat a symptom.
@@persistentwind ya so they can find a cure for cancer then get shit by the government because they dont wanna cure causes they wanna create big pharma customers
@@persistentwind That's a scientist's job.
4:31 lol 😂 I laughed so hard when that jack ass in the video put his face in the black smoke😅!! But Mr Banks you sir are a legend I love your videos and it's a bonus when they're funny
Any idea when a 6.7 Cummins version will be released?
I'm ready for it
Cummins owners waiting patiently! WHEN!!???
Welp, time for bed......OH! a Banks video, gotta watch that first.
Will this tuner work with a flashed ecu with dpf and egr delete? Just wondering if the inline tuner will effect the flash tune on the ecm. I know it counterintuitive but if a truck it already delete with shock tune will it work as good.
Sure do wish Banks would make some products for my '02 Tacoma 3.4. Great truck but I wouldn't mind getting a little more out of it.
still need a solution for a 6.7 cumiins
buy a duramax
@@bobocaterpillar3697😂wtf are you on?
@@bobocaterpillar3697japamax
Banks is the best. Period!
Gale , when is the 2019 derringer for the Chevy Zr2 baby Duramax diesel going to be out ?
We have a plan to address both the LWN and LM2 engines (sometime around Q2). Right now, both projects are currently on hold. We are trying to finish a few GM 6.6L L5P '17-'19/'20 projects before we continue development on the 2.8L LWN and 3.0L LM2 engines.
Banks Power excellent. Thanks !
@@bankspower thanks banks !!
Would be interesting to see what can be achieved if the design philosophy for performance can be firstly risk and then economy and then power.
@Banks Power I asked this question last year. Are you currently doing R&D on the 2.8 Duramax? I and many others are very interested. Thanks
I wish they would. I had a 2.8 in a 12 passenger Express van, and that sucker averaged 21mpg for the 35,000 miles we owned it. It was awesome, except for regen issues we always had to go to the dealer for, to make them force regen it.
My question is when will the Banks team release a real ECU to replace the stock unit. Currently only Motec in Australia offer wire-in or some plug in replacement units for diesel engines. (Well there are also some Bosch motorsport ECU's as well but big $$.)
I'd be curious to know what electronic package Gale and the team are using on their high power duramax engines? I somewhat expect it is not simple inline tuner ;)
I’ve been asking the question when are they going to make one for the 2.8 L Duramax apparently they don’t want our money I would love to have one for my ZR2 2020 baby Duramax
U n me both! Great powerplant for the zr2!!!
Quit crying.
Why does the EGT go up when you add fuel? In an airplane, when you enrich the mixture, the eggs go down not up. Thanks
Is the derringer better than the automind handheld?
I need a Daringer for my Cummins 8.3 CAPS unit.. I once had a unit that Banks made that was great. But you longer make one for my 2000 cummins 8.3 CAPS motorhome.
Please help..
What about for older trucks like the 7.3?
Great explanation. Can you guys go into why you dropped the Cummins 6.7 Derringer? Sounds like it was already maxed out from the factory/maybe transmission sucked too much to even bother lol
We didn't drop the Derringer for the Cummins. To be frank, Gale and the team were not happy with the hp and tq output. So, last fall they scrapped the design and have been working on since then. The RAM requires pulse-width and timing to make significant increases in power. That requires a new circuit board, etc, which are in-process. 👍
@@bankspower oh wow super interesting. Thank you for responding. I wouldn't want to spread misinformation LOL. thanks team Banks 👍
@@bankspower What about us 2012 Cummins guys? Will the Derringer be better tuning than my current Automind? I use the Tow Tune.
@@bankspower please!!
Does it adjust or can it be adjusted for times you want fuel efficiency and times more power and torque?
I wonder what the kerma TDI tune does. Has anyone looked into it?
Would the derringer help with better regens and less problem with emission without having to do an illegal delete ?
What is the average MPG gains on a L5P?
Awesome. Should start selling them in Australia for the cruisers
hello I'm from Trinidad and own a great wall wingle 5 would your product work on my truck it's got a 4d20 engine please help thanks.
Any programmer coming out for the Colorado 2.8 soon?
Yes indeed! We have a few units being beta tested right now. We hope to announce a release date soon.
Banks Power , Awesome I’ve been wanting to buy a programmer for it but I’ll wait a little longer for a banks product.
I wish Banks would invest more on their Flash Tuners for Gasoline Vehicles. I would buy one instantly. More so because I live on an area where there are no Experienced/Educated HP Tuners I would trust my Truck to...
Gale Banks and his team, Absolute Legends👊
WAITING…for the LZO duramax version. Not patiently I might add. 😂
What happened to the LM2/LZ0 project?
I know a big majority of Raptor owners want to add power but don’t want the footprint. Is there a Derringer module in the making??😉😉😉
I loved the one for my F250 and would love to see what y’all can do with the Raptor motor!
how did the Dr performance do
When can I get one for my 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee eco diesel Gale ?
Take everybody to school Mr. Banks!!! Can we get a derringer for gas trucks too??
Looking for something to improve my towing. I travel/live full time in a 40' 5th wheel that weighs 14,000 lbs. Looking to get a Banks Speedbrake but is there something else I should do as well to improve towing performance? Maybe a Banks EconoMind or what? Or just do the Speedbrake and leave everything else stock? Oh....2006 GMC 2500HD LBZ, air bags.
Two questions... I already installed a one of the modules you mentioned that just adds fuel claiming to save you fuel. Do you think I should take it off? Is it causing damage? Question 2. When will you have a tuner for the ram 6.7. I only picked that worse tuner cause you don't have one. Now I'm questioning that choice.
I hope Shane watches this video and get a big ego boost.
Suggestion for the video editor, the voice and music levels need to be equalized. A good video shouldn't have to turn down for music, and crank it up for voice.
Gale Banks made me want to watch an infomercial, bravo
Does it work on a 1998 ram 24 v
What is the mpg on a 3.0 ecodiesel ram 2017 after pedal monster and with bank tuner. On 35 inch tires going up hill and down hill.
The Derringer and PedalMonster are designed to deliver power and throttle boost when you need it. They're not designed to increase fuel economy. Therefore, we do not advertise fuel economy gains. Fuel economy depends on many variables including how you drive.
@@bankspower ok thanks for answering the question in a timely fashion
Incredible products!
Way to go Mr. Banks
Keep the warranty for 20k more miles or throw on a auto 2.0?
Please release derringer for 3.0 duramax
wanna make one for 2009 duramax? I only see the sixgun and economind tuner. Are these the same thing for the older duramax?
The Six Gun and Economind tuners are inline tuners. We are not developing any new hardware for the older gen Duramax trucks.
I will keep my old school 1996 7.3 that yes I have a vary milled tuner on it (Bully Dog). to get better MPG and yes after having it installed for over 175k miles I can say I do get a good 3 MPG more. and over all the truck has 266k miles on it. F250 work truck. in this case the extra fuel is cheaper in the long run I pull a 16K trailer all the time.
Your tuner(and mine, on my '00) is a flash-tuner, so it can affect the timing, max boost(or at least ignore 'overboost' conditions), and control the trans shift pressures... a lot more than a dumb inline tuner(the "10K" mod on a 7.3 PSD basically).
Also, it sure looks like the modern trucks are designed around the turbo's flow characteristics and push them to the max, vs the old 7.3s which had plenty of 'headroom' in terms of air that could be gained from a stock setup.
I agree. and it is all the more reason that I will never part with my older 7.3and the fact that the engine was built by international.
I would like to see similar commentary on gasoline engine tuners to see if they are as bad.
Have you all finished the 12 Ram tuner for the off road yet? Or, a tune that will not clog up the dpf for the 12 ram. There are not many options out there and I need to make it a off road truck. It is clogging itself up with two turbo's. And so much fuel in the oil. I run 100% AMS oil and can't get max oil change intervals with oil analysis. I have a bypass system too... Grrr!!!
will this work on a 04 ford diesel are what would you recommend, i need something as new ford crate motor with 1 step above the original turbo rebuilt
I am LOL... That clown with his face in the exhaust pipe... Thanks Dr. Banks..!!
The Ol' man lays the law down straight.
We're your Huckleberry.
Do you make a similar product for Petrol LS Engines?
Not at the moment. But we're seriously looking into it.
@@bankspower Please do it!
Really wish they had a derringer for the Titan XD.
How about semi trucks. Truck drivers and owner operators love upgrading their truck I would like see Banks power build power tuners for them. I have a freightliner Cascadea with a DD15. I'd like to make it move some freight.
As of now, we don't have plans to. We are focused primarily on light duty and medium pick-up trucks. The other thing is, semi-truck use a different CAN-BUS OBD protocol.
I have a 2007-1/2 3500 4x4 Dually with the 6.7 Cummins which I had to delete at 100K miles due to it was all plugged up and was only getting 13 mpg at 65mph and continually plugging the dpf, oh just to clear it up I bought the truck used at 94K miles. So I'm wondering would a Derringer work on my deleted truck and get the performance and fuel economy that my Smarty JR set at Towing 75hp gets me 18-19 at 78-80mph
Monster RAM I'm not looking to race I mainly tow but you know sometimes I just like to play
Monster RAM thank you for your insight
In an older (but well taken care of) Ram with a 5.9, I've never cared about a DPF. EGTs and MPG are my concerns. I can consistently get 23 MPG if I can keep the EGTs low and 16 towing a travel trailer(I tapped a thermocouple and gage). The smarty tuner helped a bit. How does this tuner compare?
It doesn't compare! Its far better!
@@davegerrard6857anything to back up that statement? Thank you
Very attentive to details here. I would like to ask you Banks Power or Mr. Gale Banks as you have been perfecting Derringer for the light to medium duty engine sector, would this same system possibly be a a good fit if developed properly for heavy duty and class 8 heavy truck engines?
We need something for the 6.7 Cummins come on gale you can do it
The Derringer for 2013+ Cummins 6.7L was taken back to the drawing board. We had a tuner that we were testing and ended up scraping; it wasn't up to Gale's standard. We are now trying and all-new method of tuning for the 2013+ Cummins 6.7L trucks . We don’t have a release date yet because it is still earlier in the R&D phase right now. We always like to get it right! Engineering is in our name, which means that we have to tinker with a product until its the best that it can be. Sorry that we don't have more information to go on right now.
Sounds good I will definitely be one of your first customers when it’s done
What happens when you delete dpf and egr? How will it compensate?
Derringer is not designed to operate without emissions equipment intact. It uses data from those sensors for calibration.
Thank you
Will the Derringer ever be available for the LML? If not what is comparably available for the LML?
We are currently working on the LML ('11-'16) Duramax Derringer. We didn't get the results we wanted on the first run so we are looking into a different hardware set up. We always like to get it right! Engineering is in our name, which means that we have to tinker with a product until its the best that it can be. Sorry that we don't have more information to go on right now.
Banks Power thank you for the quick response. I would be willing to wait for a quality tuner like the Derringer.
This guy should be producing vehicles that goto market. Bring quality back to the american car industry.
Anyone know if these work on deleted system s?
The Derringer is designed for complete emissions intact engines only. If the truck is missing EGR, CAT, DPF, DEF, or SCR it will not be able to make the necessary performance calculations.
Please build a Derringer for the Caterpillar C7 engine!! Would love to add it on my motorhome
As of now, we don't have plans to. We are focused primarily on light duty and medium pick-up trucks.
Hey Gale, long time viewer and I have a quick question. Are you guys planning on getting into Jeep territory now that they have finally released the 3.0 EcoDiesel V6 for the Wrangler?! Seriously impressive in stock form, can only imagine once it has been Banksified.
Great video.
Thanks!
Design one for tbe Volkswagen Amarok 2L bi turbo . Could you do an episode on bi turbocharging please
I never see anything on the Cummins. More specifically 2019 Cummins H.O.
LET ME KNOW WHEN THIS COMES OUT PLEASE.
We take delivery of our 2020 H.O. in a couple weeks so we can finally finish up R&D!
Banks Power what about for a 2018?
@@24sevvin It will support a range of years from 18 to 20 based on the parts I have seen available for the years. They are all very similar engines and will likely benefit the most from combining the tweaks out of the 20 and merging them with the 18.
@@monsterram6617 hes not emission intact tuning cause hes in Canada
@@monsterram6617 no thanks, Banks is the only guy who knows what's actually going on when tuning. None of these other companies have the data that banks uses to tune
any news on the tuner for the 5.9 cummins?
For now, we have no plans to offer the Derringer for the 5.9L Cummins engines because we already offer two tuners for gen of Dodge/Ram trucks.
Six-Gun: www.bankspower.com/i-2742
Economind: www.bankspower.com/i-2741
When will you release the derringer for the LMM?
We have no plans for a Derringer with that generation of Duramax due to the fact that we already two tuners for. We offer the Six-Gun and the Economind.
Six-Gun: www.bankspower.com/i-2723
Economid: www.bankspower.com/i-2716