Creation Ep. 2 - The Lost World of EGYPT & BABYLON

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  • Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
  • Welcome to another Episode of Ring Them Bells!
    Is the World Flat?
    How do we align with the Biblical Author's Ancient Cosmology ?
    The Bible was written for us BUT it was not written to us.
    The Bible is not a Science Book.
    We must rediscover the Bible's meaning of the word "literally"
    These concepts and more are explored in this launch to our Creation Series that will be leading us towards our Series covering the Lead up to the Flood Narrative.
    In America over the past century creation Debates have sparked a lot of controversy surrounding the scientific nature of the Bible.
    Today many believe the scientific world is deceiving us and that the world is really flat...
    Does the Bible force us to think this way???
    I think you'll find this well rounded panel of scholars gives us valuable information on how to meet the Bible on its own terms.
    Link to Source Material
    1) Heiser - Genesis Is Not the ONLY Creation Account in the Old Testament • Genesis Is Not the ONL...
    2)Heiser - Naked Bible Podcast- literal- • Genesis vs Babylonian ...
    3) The Lost World of Adam and Eve- Dr. John Walton- • The Lost World of Adam...
    4) N.T Wright _ Pete Enns _Series - BioLogos- • N.T. Wright and Pete E...
    5) Bible Project Podcast - Timelines, Dinosaurs, and the Purpose of Creation - bibleproject.com/podcast/time...
    6) Bible Project "The Story of The Bible" Video - bibleproject.com/explore/vide...
    #flatearth #creation #genesis #bibleproject #heiser #divinecouncil
    ‪@bibleproject‬ ‪@ExpeditionBible‬ ‪@blurrycreatures‬ ‪@DRMSH‬
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  • @ringthembells143
    @ringthembells143  Місяць тому

    👀Check out our creation series Finale👀🌏
    ua-cam.com/video/Cnp4SBOsLs8/v-deo.htmlsi=fVXE8mAh6k9y9X3-

  • @wesleyshackelford8646
    @wesleyshackelford8646 Місяць тому +14

    The writers were correct as always
    Let God be true and every man a liar. Love you all!

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +2

      Did you watch the video? God did not advance the intelligence of the people He inspired to write Scripture. Humans authored the Bible, that’s who God used. He used their language, cosmology and culture to communicate truth.
      Do you believe that you think with your kidneys???
      No… it’s our brain ✔️🔔❤️
      But the authors of Scripture believed it was your kidneys and this is what the “Bible says.” God did not advance their understanding of the human body in order to communicate truth and the same as for the geological structure of the Earth✔️✔️

    • @canadiankewldude
      @canadiankewldude Місяць тому +1

      @@ringthembells143 Yes, the Bible does talk about kidneys and the fat.
      Where does the Bible say, support the idea that people think with their kidneys? I have searched Scripture, yet I cannot find this stated nor supported within Scripture. Please, where in Scripture is this?

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +2

      @@canadiankewldude But in the Scriptures, the Hebrew term for kidney (kilyot) is not used to describe the cleansing function we moderns associate with Kidneys but rather to depict either the organ in the sacrificial animal or the inward part of a person-the way we today often use “mind.”
      The Hebrew word kilyot also takes another meaning, however, and in our English Bibles, it is most often translated as “heart/ inner being/mind.” Five passages picture God examining the kidneys to evaluate an individual: “I the Lord search the heart and test the mind [kidneys], to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds” (Jer 17:10 ESV; see also Jer 11:20 and Ps 26:2). In Jeremiah 12:1b-2 (ESV), the kidneys refer to hypocritical people whose words don’t match their true selves: “Why does the way of the wicked prosper?… you are near in their mouth and far from their heart [kidneys].” Proverbs 23:15-16 (ESV) identifies the kidneys as the origin of rejoicing: “My son, if your heart is wise, my heart too will be glad. My inmost being [my kidneys] will exult when your lips speak what is right.”
      So if you think the world is Flat you are most likely thinking with your kidneys😂

    • @KD-nd6wb
      @KD-nd6wb 24 дні тому

      @@canadiankewldudethe Bible does not say what these people claim it says, about kidneys, flat earths, and other things they are claiming. There is some deception going on here. They are attacking the integrity of the scriptures

    • @KD-nd6wb
      @KD-nd6wb 24 дні тому

      @@ringthembells143the Bible does not say that the Earth is flat. Are you all trying to deceive people?

  • @annchovey2089
    @annchovey2089 Місяць тому +13

    The Lord sits above the circle of the earth. Isaiah 40:22

    • @AWAKEtheIRON
      @AWAKEtheIRON Місяць тому +2

      CIRCLE
      "A plane curve everywhere equidistant from a given fixed point, the center."
      (American Heritage Dictionary)...
      a line on a plane.

    • @IndianaJoe0321
      @IndianaJoe0321 11 днів тому

      "Circle of the Earth" -- like a disc? Above a FLAT disc, right??

    • @annchovey2089
      @annchovey2089 11 днів тому

      @@IndianaJoe0321 sphere

  • @jmarkk1
    @jmarkk1 Місяць тому +3

    I’m very surprised that Christians approach the Biblical text with a presumption that says “it’s not a scientific book making scientific claims.” (As if “science” can somehow illuminate scriptural meaning into something that’s just “speaking to a culture not as enlightened as us.”
    …that’s “just how God spoke to those that didn’t have/knos the scientific method, etc.
    I find this approach as dishonest

  • @justinephelps3639
    @justinephelps3639 18 днів тому +1

    Just a suggestion- It would be helpful in listening to your shows if the moving type displayed to music was spoken instead of put on the screen to be read and therefore must be watched . I listen to these while working or in the car and it’s not feasible to stop and read the info so that I know what’s going on. Thanks for the content though.

  • @idahoduckhunter
    @idahoduckhunter Місяць тому +15

    I wanted to post a few responses:
    42:35 The common sense arguments are all work on both models. People who don't respect biblical cosmology would do well to study why each of those work in both world views. We've all been through the propaganda of school and movies, etc. so people who haven't studied think this is a ringer but honestly, humbly, it's not. Be a berean. Biblical cosmologists know both models well.
    The three questions I keep hearing in my mind is:
    1) If God did intend to mean what he said, that the cosmology described from Genesis to Revelation were true, how would He tell the ancient israelite that the world is flat with a firmament holding back the waters above, etc if he wanted to convey that truth?
    2) "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth"

    • @PhantasyKingpin
      @PhantasyKingpin Місяць тому +2

      I really relate to your 3rd point and think people need to be honest with themselves.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +2

      There are NO credible scholars like Heiser that currently support this ancient incorrect view of our world and the Bible. Because it’s easily discernible through observation and research that the earth and surrounding planets are ROUND. You WILL NEVER have someone credible support this view. God did not advance the intelligence of the people He inspired to write Scripture. Humans authored the Bible, that’s who God used. He used their language, cosmology and culture to communicate truth.
      Do you believe that you think with your kidneys???
      No… it’s our brain ✔️🔔❤️
      But the authors of Scripture believed it was your kidneys and this is what the “Bible says.” God did not advance their understanding of the human body in order to communicate truth and the same goes for the geological structure of the Earth✔️✔️

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +2

      @@PhantasyKingpin you mean point 2.2 which makes ZERO logical sense. You were raised to defend the Bible in the wrong way. This is a completely American thing. The authors did not intend the Bible to communicate Scientific truth. I believe in truth. The truth of the actual physical structure of Earth is Not intended to be conveyed by the original authors of whom God inspired. By forcing this scientific mold on the Bible you make God a liar and provide ridiculous ammunition for logical opposition to the structure of Christianity. It’s just wrong to make the Bible say something it is not intending to say. 🎯🌏 ✔️🌏🎯

    • @Needassistance
      @Needassistance Місяць тому +5

      ​@@ringthembells143lol it's discernable though observation?
      Please explain to me how you personally observe that you are on a round spinning ball?
      You fail btw if you cite NASA
      The default is that we are on a flat stationary plane it's what we all experience.
      It's also what the Bible describes. Stop trying to make the scripture fit your world view, and rather accept the Bible authors for their divinely inspired words.

    • @jmarkk1
      @jmarkk1 Місяць тому +4

      Plus, if your argument is based on “there are no credible scholars that disagree” this is a fallacious argument. It’s an appeal to consensus.

  • @bbdjgnetsarim2745
    @bbdjgnetsarim2745 Місяць тому +2

    Maybe those who lived back then actually knew the truth about the creation and where we actually live🤔 The doctrine of accommodation actually causes many errors in the interpretation of scripture by making the claim that the scriptures are poetry, but yet in the documentary “The Principle” shows us that the Torah is a narrative (not poetry) dictated to Moses! The book of Enoch and Jubilees (found at cumron- Dead Sea Scrolls) describes the creation of our world just as it we see it ❤️ Let the word be true and all men liars. Don’t let “Science falsely so called “ as Timothy was warned, carry you astray 😊

  • @martidiamond7109
    @martidiamond7109 Місяць тому +1

    Wonderful. Makes perfect sense 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️

  • @idahoduckhunter
    @idahoduckhunter Місяць тому +6

    I'm humble enough to learn, let me see the biblical case for the heliocentric model. Watching now.

    • @smokydogy
      @smokydogy Місяць тому +4

      There is no biblical case as he says 5 minutes into the video he believes the original Hebrew is wrong and that Moses was helplessly ignorant and he has to change what the text says in order to support a globe model as he admits that the 5 minute point

    • @acesing0987
      @acesing0987 Місяць тому

      How would he say that...u can't change a dot or tiddle as it perfectly aligns in some cosmic code... God knew what he was doing

    • @smokydogy
      @smokydogy Місяць тому +1

      @@acesing0987 they arent true believers.

  • @peterandjoycevanbreemen600
    @peterandjoycevanbreemen600 Місяць тому

    Great. ❤

  • @David-lq4tq
    @David-lq4tq Місяць тому +2

    Genesis 1 is the inerrant word of Yahuah. Everything is in the firmament. The language and meaning are not complex.

  • @David-lq4tq
    @David-lq4tq Місяць тому +1

    As you can tell from the comments, let Yahuah be true and every man a liar.

  • @jay-rs7gj
    @jay-rs7gj Місяць тому +2

    kinda strange you dont think its flat even though the gods knew? the fallen angels, God, they all seem to know.
    not sure what mental gymnastics youre doing to believe in heliocentrism

  • @shelleyscloud3651
    @shelleyscloud3651 Місяць тому +1

    Where is the interview around 16m in taken from please?

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +2

      That is from the Bible projects cosmology podcast series. Check the show notes for the exact link✔️🔔❤️

    • @shelleyscloud3651
      @shelleyscloud3651 Місяць тому

      @@ringthembells143thank you. Loved the monologue at the end.

  • @user-zd3ti9vl8b
    @user-zd3ti9vl8b Місяць тому

    VA from volcanic activity tends to stay in the hemidphere that the volcano occurs in.

  • @BobDemyanovich
    @BobDemyanovich Місяць тому +1

    The few intact, written accounts render insight to those cultures. Were these specimens free of imperial desires? Physical evidences cannot be separate considerations when proposing a true understanding. Huge constructions of durable stoneworks are alternate records. These structures are worldwide.

  • @joshmondaymusicandpodcast
    @joshmondaymusicandpodcast Місяць тому +1

    Lets debate Biblical Cosmology sir.

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd Місяць тому +4

    Those end arguments were pretty awful, not even low hanging fruit lol. Its a reason issue, rejecting all entire evidence as lies.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +3

      God did not advance the intelligence of the people He inspired to write Scripture. Humans authored the Bible, that’s who God used. He used their language, cosmology and culture to communicate truth.
      Do you believe that you think with your kidneys???
      No… it’s our brain ✔️🔔❤️
      But the authors of Scripture believed it was your kidneys and this is what the “Bible says.” God did not advance their understanding of the human body in order to communicate truth and the same goes for the geological structure of the Earth✔️✔️

    • @helenenikki2391
      @helenenikki2391 Місяць тому

      You keep replying with the same reply guy....... that doesn't show us that you're using the full book of wisdom that Yahweh gave us.
      Please use the full book of wisdom and pray on this matter because it does matter. A LOT.

    • @IndianaJoe0321
      @IndianaJoe0321 11 днів тому

      I like that you mentioned the "kidneys" argument,​@@ringthembells143. If Americans knew the Hebrew behind some of the English words they read in their English translations, I don't think this flat earth thing would not be such a touchy subject.

    • @beckymartin1810
      @beckymartin1810 7 годин тому

      @@ringthembells143thank you for making this comment!

  • @sandrasosnoski3338
    @sandrasosnoski3338 Місяць тому +6

    Why would God lie to us? Did He just think mankind was too stupid to understand how He created everything? I don’t think so. God’s Word was not “pre-scientific”.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому

      Did you watch the video? God did not advance the intelligence of the people He inspired to write Scripture. Humans authored the Bible, that’s who God used. He used their language, cosmology and culture to communicate truth.
      Do you believe that you think with your kidneys???
      No… it’s our brain ✔️🔔❤️
      But the authors of Scripture believed it was your kidneys and this is what the “Bible says.” God did not advance their understanding of the human body in order to communicate truth and the same as for the geological structure of the Earth✔️✔️

    • @sandrasosnoski3338
      @sandrasosnoski3338 Місяць тому +3

      @@ringthembells143 I did watch the video. The Bible is written the way it is written because it is truth. Those of us who now believe in Biblical cosmology (i.e. flat earth) did not come to this conclusion lightly, and in fact, we (I speak for those that I know and know of) are former ball earthers. We do not enjoy being ridiculed, but, rather, are trying to stand up for the truth of God’s Word. Also, true science favors Biblical cosmology. Jesus said, “For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me.”
      ‭‭John‬ ‭5‬:‭46‬ ‭ESV‬‬. I think that includes the creation story. Not trying to be disrespectful in any way of you guys, just trying to dialogue.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому

      @@sandrasosnoski3338 I’m not ridiculing you I’m legitimately asking you. The logic behind what you are saying does not biblically function throughout the entire story. You can’t claim parts and genesis and then reject others.
      So….
      I’ll ask you again do you think from your kidneys?
      🌏🔔❤️

    • @canadiankewldude
      @canadiankewldude Місяць тому

      @@ringthembells143 You are the fist to ever suggest, that I've ever heard, people "think from their kidneys," perhaps ancient Hebrews believed this. I cannot find this concept stated nor supported by Scripture. Could you please help me find this reference within Scripture.

    • @traildude7538
      @traildude7538 Місяць тому

      @@sandrasosnoski3338 In my years at university I witnessed hundreds of students turn away from Christ, and just about every one of them did so because Christians were insisting that the Bible is teaching cosmology. When different Christian groups on campus were witnessing in the quad it wasn't hard to tell which ones were insisting that the Earth is less than tn thousand years old and held to a "biblical" cosmology, and which acknowledged what the Creation itself tells us about itself by the reactions of those who stopped to listen: those in the first group got laughed at while those in the second got asked questions.
      Ponder this: long before Copernicus or Galileo, scholars who grew up reading Hebrew concluded from the opening of Genesis 1 that the universe started out smaller than a grain of mustard and expanded unimaginably rapidly; that it was originally filled with fluid, a fluid that light couldn't shine through, but as the universe expanded the fluid thinned until light could shine -- at which point God commanded light to exist. They concluded that the universe is old beyond human comprehension and that the Earth, though younger, is still unbelievably ancient. One noted that a thousand is a period of perfection, so a thousand times a thousand is supreme perfection, and a thousand times that is ultimate perfection and so the world must be a thousand times a thousand times a thousand years old, which works out to a billion years; another asserted that the universe must be a thousand times a thousand, times the same again, which works out to a trillion years. They didn't look at the universe, they didn't look at the world to determine this, they looked only at the Hebrew text in Genesis.
      Since those scholars looked at Genesis and reached conclusions that sound like a layman's summary of the Big Bang, don't be so certain that what it seems to say in English when read from a scientific point of view (i.e. thinking that it teaches science) is what it actually means.

  • @user-zd3ti9vl8b
    @user-zd3ti9vl8b Місяць тому

    Australia is NOT as large as Cdn and only has 2 main time zones.

  • @G.O.Centric2.0
    @G.O.Centric2.0 Місяць тому +4

    Debunking biblical cosmology with the Bible. I really feel sorry for you guys now. May God have mercy on your souls.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому

      God did not advance the intelligence of the people He inspired to write Scripture. Humans authored the Bible, that’s who God used. He used their language, cosmology and culture to communicate truth.
      Do you believe that you think with your kidneys???
      No… it’s our brain ✔️🔔❤️
      But the authors of Scripture believed it was your kidneys and this is what the “Bible says.” God did not advance their understanding of the human body in order to communicate truth and the same goes for the geological structure of the Earth✔️✔️

    • @G.O.Centric2.0
      @G.O.Centric2.0 Місяць тому

      @@ringthembells143 Today, even today, we have no actual evidence of the ball earth. I encourage you personally to find proof of the heliocentric model that does not come from NASA. You will not find it. I also encourage you to look into REAL flat earth evidence, not what you find through Google. I assure you that real science backs up biblical cosmology every time. We can see too far, mountains over 700 miles from the observer, Polaris never moves and never has, there is no magnetic south pole, no one has ever circumnavigated south, no one has ever left Argentina and flew south to Australia. NASA footage has been proven fake time after time. Just take the time to look into it, and ask for the Holy Spirit to guide you.

    • @jay-rs7gj
      @jay-rs7gj Місяць тому

      @@ringthembells143 kidney argument is weak, when i have thoughts i know where they appear in my head. God was conveying something else and youre
      missing it.
      the heart pumps blood, if we open it up where do i find courage in there or willpower? Gods ways are above ours, where do i find intellect in the brain? we have a body incredibly complex and science hasnt got it figured out. unseen realm

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому

      @@jay-rs7gj you’re exactly right. You’re exposing the weak argument of forcing the Bible to become a science book and tell you the literal creation of the Earth when it was not intended to do so✌️❤️

  • @dennisburdick682
    @dennisburdick682 Місяць тому +1

    Praise be to our LORD Yeshua the Anointed one for forgiveness and grace. Amen. 🙂🙏✝️🕎✡🇺🇸🇮🇱❤

  • @Execrate200
    @Execrate200 Місяць тому +1

    So because of purely visual non accessible phenomena in the heavens,, it's a ball 😂
    PHYSICS demonstrates the globe is absurd.
    And it's been demonstrated on my and many others channels. Your "pull" of gravity does not exist.
    There is no physical measure of downward acceleration only visual.. The Earth/ground is in a constant motion up relative to you. While you and other matter resist that push. Giving weight and density gradients, This push up, or outward on a globe, literally makes a globe explode.

    • @stevetobe4494
      @stevetobe4494 Місяць тому

      Observation shows the earth is a sphere.

  • @sandrasosnoski3338
    @sandrasosnoski3338 Місяць тому +8

    The Bible is written for us: “For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭15‬:‭4‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    It is also if no private interpretation. We should not abandon the plain reading of the text in favor of some poetic interpretation. Many Scriptures, going back to the original texts, describe a flat, stationery earth with a firm dome above. Why should we believe the heliocentrists, of whom many of the original devisers of this imaginative narrative were Freemasons and Luciferians? They do not have evidence for their theories, but continue to prop up the narrative with more and more theories. They even admit that they don’t use the scientific method.. We should be giving God the glory for His creation, not pandering to pseudoscience.

    • @nanthilrodriguez
      @nanthilrodriguez Місяць тому

      But poetry is a common literary style of the authors in the Bible...

  • @FlatEarthRob
    @FlatEarthRob Місяць тому +6

    But earth is flat.. every thing makes no sense.. unless you atheist

  • @BentIronBins
    @BentIronBins Місяць тому +8

    There is so much deception out there that i don’t believe too much anymore. Is the earth round flat i don’t think it really matters because we don’t need to know those things. We should be caring about bringing as many people to Christ. When the end comes we will know all things,which are little minds aren’t even capable of knowing. Im intrigued by subjects like this but it shouldn’t be our main goal.

    • @tamarajarrell4812
      @tamarajarrell4812 Місяць тому +3

      If we don't need to know this than why was GOD so explicit about the earth

    • @wesleyshackelford8646
      @wesleyshackelford8646 Місяць тому +3

      It matters. Love you all!

    • @AWAKEtheIRON
      @AWAKEtheIRON Місяць тому +2

      Many atheists have come to realize that there is a Creator once they realized the truth about this realm, that the earth (the ground) is a horizontal plane. Those former atheists have begun to dig into Biblical scriptures as a result of that and are on their way to a relationship with Christ.
      This ABSOLUTELY matters.

    • @BentIronBins
      @BentIronBins Місяць тому +1

      The Lord makes it loud and clear go out in the world and teach the gospel not to dwell on whether the earth is flat or round. So which matters most. Does it matter if the world is flat does it change anything are you doing as Jesus said or are you instead wasting time on matters that have no bearing on the only thing that truly matters.

    • @AWAKEtheIRON
      @AWAKEtheIRON Місяць тому +1

      @BentIronBins Everyone's journey to a relationship with Christ is unique. It begins with first acknowledging there is a Creator. Some people who were helio-centric atheists came to the realization that there is indeed a creator when they realized helio-centrism is a deception. They saw the Creator from studying nature, once they realized this realm is a topographical, level, horizontal plane. Then, those former atheists began reading Bible scripture because the realized that the Creator may very well be God of the Bible. Digging into scripture and opening up their hearts leads them to Christ. So instead of us being silent on certain things, let's discuss everything with those who are yet to know Christ. Let's build relationships so we can better understand how to relate to those who are seeking. For those who have found salvation by way of researching flat earth, this topic is literally life and death...

  • @markstone8925
    @markstone8925 Місяць тому +3

    Flat Earth is not going away :)

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +3

      It was never here 🎯

    • @AWAKEtheIRON
      @AWAKEtheIRON Місяць тому

      ​@ringthembells143 Earth is measured flat, navigated flat, referenced flat, treated as a flat plane, and looks flat. It IS a horizontal plane. "Globe" measurements are taken from a flat plane first.

  • @blacksheep6888
    @blacksheep6888 Місяць тому +1

    Job 26:7 the world is hung on nothing. No pillars or turtle's not Atlas, nothing bible correct 👍

    • @jay-rs7gj
      @jay-rs7gj Місяць тому +1

      i dont hang a footstool on the floor

    • @nortfroggirl
      @nortfroggirl Місяць тому

      Standing on pillars is not the same as hanging on nothing!

    • @blacksheep6888
      @blacksheep6888 Місяць тому

      @@nortfroggirl is it not wonderful how they have photos of earth from the moon and how the bible is correct that the earth is hung on nothing, this is more evidence for the wonders of our creator.

  • @rocketmanshawn
    @rocketmanshawn Місяць тому +8

    The only hill worth dying on is Calvary. We're called to repesnt and believe the Gospel, and spread that Gospel creating desciples for Christ. Not disciples for the shape of the earth. Don't elivate this issue or your interpretations or opinions to and order of first importance. Don't divine over cosmology, and don't make the shape of the earth an idol in your heart.

    • @janiceking6955
      @janiceking6955 Місяць тому +3

      This is just a small snippet of what these guys teach. And the more I hear from them.. the bigger I realize God is! And I thought He was huge before! Not totally sure of everything they teach, but it's fascinating. Of course we must teach the gospel, number 1!, but I love learning these things other bible teachers stay as far away from as possible. We'll find out for sure one day.. 😊🙌🙌🙌

  • @smokydogy
    @smokydogy Місяць тому +6

    At 5:08 you say "many believers struggle with the notion that God would allow his people to remain ignorant" no sir it is only you, YOU READING THIS COMMENT WHO AUTHORED THIS VIDEO that takes issue with that and is presupposing I, the viewer, agree with your lack of faith. Good day to you and I hope God speaks to your heart and soon.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +6

      You should watch to the End. Regardless of your stance. Kill the hostility and embrace the love of God offered to us in Jesus. Whether you’ve got a pancake for a planet or a globe, it’s your kindness that matters the most✌️🔔❤️

    • @smokydogy
      @smokydogy Місяць тому

      @@ringthembells143 Sir, you can use any argument or form of respectful sophistry to say the same thing. You think Moses was an idiot and you want me to take it lying down like a punk while you preach the divinity of Jesus Christ out Messiah. This is not personal, this is not emotional, we are disagreeing about the functioning of reality and its no small matter. If Moses was a ignorant fool as you are supposing is indesputable fact (that Moses was so stupid he couldnt measure sticks and shadows or watch the sunset, yes you are indirectly claiming that, sir) then Jesus fulfilling the prophecy Moses laid out in "Deuteronomy 18:15" is meaningless. Because not only did Moses have no concept of time, he was borderline illiterate and did not know how light or shadows or measurements work, according to you Deuteronomy 18:15 is meaningless due to the ignorance of moses and Hebrews in the NT can basically be thrown out because all the people in it are ignorant as well. Peter also supports the cosmogony of moses, I guess he was just ignorant and God didnt feel like revealing the truth to him as well.
      The Tora is written in the code that makes up reality, the Bible is a FLAWLESS WORK. You are a FALSE PROPHET saying SCRIPTURE IS WRONG, YOU are the one saying that sir. Maybe you need to reconsider your values and read the portion of the Gospel where Jesus takes a whip to the temple.

    • @smokydogy
      @smokydogy Місяць тому +4

      @@ringthembells143 we are to love each other in the word and be united in the word of God, because Jesus is the word. What you are claiming in this video is the Word is wrong and Moses was divinely inspired but God was ok with him lying to people. Your own logic defeats you, that the word can be wrong when it contradicts what you want it to be. Only Moses talked to God face to face, maybe consider that.

    • @shelleyscloud3651
      @shelleyscloud3651 Місяць тому

      @@smokydogyit’s people like you that turn people off Christianity and, ironically, as is so often the case, you don’t ‘read’ as remotely Christian in either your conduct or heart.

    • @ChrisHudgins
      @ChrisHudgins Місяць тому +1

      @@smokydogynah you juss wanna fight. You can do that elsewhere

  • @FlatEarthRob
    @FlatEarthRob Місяць тому +13

    Disappointing

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +7

      Flat Earth Rob doesn’t like the video debunking Flat Earth. SHOCKER

    • @FlatEarthRob
      @FlatEarthRob Місяць тому +1

      You are spot on with much.. but you missed this.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому +9

      @@FlatEarthRob I appreciate your willingness to see-through our differences concerning the earth. Jesus is much more important and I think we have a lot of common ground there🔔✔️❤️

    • @FlatEarthRob
      @FlatEarthRob Місяць тому +7

      Absolutely bro. Nothing but love for ya.

    • @pryder2912
      @pryder2912 Місяць тому

      @@ringthembells143 it debunks nothing but your credibility

  • @zachhorvath4409
    @zachhorvath4409 28 днів тому +1

    I haven't played video games, at least for more than an hr while being owner.. anyway your background music sounds like a SuperNintendoish RPG that is the R rated backstory of an cinemax action porno...

  • @justinephelps3639
    @justinephelps3639 18 днів тому +1

    evidence for a flat realm covered by an actual firmament is overwhelming. The heliocentric narrative comes from 1 ultimate source who had/have rea$ons for their story. God knew exactly what he was doing when he referenced flat realm principles over 200x in Scripture. We have to be careful what paradigm we start a discussion from.
    Loving one another is of utmost importance tho despite it all. Ultimately we shall all find out the whole truth one day Praise God.

  • @tasuda9786
    @tasuda9786 Місяць тому

    Wrong in so many ways. 😒

  • @tasuda9786
    @tasuda9786 Місяць тому

    Pre-scientific....lmfao. cmon......whaaat? One needs to believe, one needs not to believe...blah blah, this is a con game.

  • @thevocabularychannel6883
    @thevocabularychannel6883 Місяць тому

    Bad.

  • @quetzelmichaels1637
    @quetzelmichaels1637 Місяць тому +1

    David's people set out from Babylon. David is the Morning Star. Snake means Shining One or, Glistening One. To 'strike at' the heel or head means to watch over, protect, or guard. The king of Babylon is the King of kings and ruler of this world, wherever man may dwell. Jacob/ Israel has the sky as iron and the earth as bronze. The king of Babylon is fettered in iron and bronze. David, your king, will be raised up for you. The Son of David hands the kingdom over to his God and Father. Blessed is the kingdom of our Father David that is to come! (Mar 11:10 NABO)
    The world is under mind control. They know the Father they spring from is the Devil (Joh 8:44 NABO). They know Satan (Shining One) is the God of this world (2Co 4:4 NAB) They know the ruler of this world has been condemned (Joh 16:11 NABO). They see it, yet, they cannot perceive it; they hear it, yet, they cannot understand it. (Isa 6:9 NABO)
    The Ancient Serpent of Old becomes much great than before, as the Anceint One of Days seated upon a throne on the Mount of Assembly. The Son of Man is presented before him and, in a final gesture in his work, washes his feet. His people will be a kingdom of priests, the Assembly on the Mount.
    Now is the time of judgment on this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out. (Joh 12:31 NABO) To inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. (Mat 25:34 NABO)
    Earth is Yahweh’s Everlasting Lake of Fire, his furnace of roaring flames where, in his furious wrath, he will gather you up, put you in, and smelt you. If your name is not in the book of life, he will refine you, remove your dross, and purify you until the Devil, the False Prophet, and the Beast (false beliefs) are cleansed from you.
    Adam had a forest of trees to learn from while tilling the soil and creating a promised land, a heavenly home, a kingdom at the foundation of the world, the Garden of Eden, before settling east of Eden until the day he wields the fiery sword guarding the way to the Tree of Life on the day of vengeance as judgment, setting the abomination of desolation in himself, as the Temple without one stone left standing upon another. Further, Adam was not deceived (1Ti 2:14 NABO)
    Christ was called up out of Egypt. Light and vegetation were created before the sun and the moon. Jesus was made to be sin by people pointing their finger at him and accusing him of sin. Christ judges the earth. Yahweh judged the Gods and the heavens themselves. The Father is greater than I.
    Esau serves and protects Jacob, who was born 'striking' at his heel. Though there is enmity between the two, all the world focuses on is the enmity.
    Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau! (Gen 32:12 NABO)
    Esau ran to meet him, embraced him, and flinging himself on his neck, kissed him as he wept. (Gen 33:4 NABO)
    Isaac blessed Esau saying: Ah, far from the fertile earth shall be your dwelling; far from the dew of the heavens above! (Gen 27:39 NABO) (Beyond the heavens.)
    the one who ascended far above all the heavens (Eph 4:10 NABO) (Beyond the heavens)
    never to return to corruption (Act 13:34 NABO)
    I've decided to put an end to all mortals on earth. The birds of the air and all the great beast will have a great feast at the wedding of the Lamb. The oceans will be drained and the waters placed above the dome of the sky. No longer will the sun beat down and scorch you. No longer will there be hurricanes and tornados. The waters will refract the rays of light and there will no longer be night.
    Looking forward, we will all speak the same language. What to you see? A flood story? The Tower of Babel? By all accounts, you should all be nothing more than pillars of salt.
    Ok. Let's get started. Take out your text books on the crucifixion as imagery and prophecy. Let me know when you are ready.

    • @wittwfiii
      @wittwfiii Місяць тому

      You are funny

    • @quetzelmichaels1637
      @quetzelmichaels1637 Місяць тому

      @@wittwfiii Perspective: Sarah gives Hagar to Abraham. Lilith, Adam's wife, gives Eve to Adam, the Christ, when he begins his work of the salvation of the kingdom of Eve's Shining One (snake) David, the Morning Star. David (Yahweh) is saving those behind the gates of hell. In hope that creation itself would be set free from slavery to corruption (Rom 8:20-21 NABO)
      Light and vegetation are created before the sun and moon because the story is about the new heaven and new earth. Adam, the Christ, is the lamp of the light of Yahweh, the word of the will of Yahweh, and the image of the light substance of Yahweh. Your creation story is when, in the beginning, Adam found you in a wasteland (Abyss/ Hades), (Gen 1:2 NABO), empty, and void of understanding, your having become corrupted by sin, and he shielded you as the apple of his eye. (Deu 32:10 NABO)
      Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. (Mat 25:34 NABO) The earth was barren, with no shrub of the field and, as yet, no man to till the soil. Adam tilled the soil and prepared the Garden of Eden, a promised land, a heavenly home, a new heaven and new earth, according to the plan of his Father, and then he settled east of Eden and has tilled and cultivated the earth ever since. I am with you always, until the end of the age. (Mat 28:20 NAB)

    • @chaddonal4331
      @chaddonal4331 Місяць тому

      @@quetzelmichaels1637You appear to be a modern gnostic!
      I urge you to repent of your arrogance and ridiculous theories and submit yourself to the true interpretations of God’s holy Scriptures.

  • @MediaKings
    @MediaKings Місяць тому +2

    I had to stop this video at 5min..😮..the Genesis clearly say that God caused a mist to rise and water the earth. Go back to Sunday school before making video sir.

    • @Thewanderer_378
      @Thewanderer_378 Місяць тому +1

      Are you serious? 🤔

    • @Thewanderer_378
      @Thewanderer_378 Місяць тому

      You're not qualified.

    • @wittwfiii
      @wittwfiii Місяць тому

      Who is qualified to determine who is qualified?

    • @myparallaxview
      @myparallaxview Місяць тому +2

      You stopped listening bc he talks about what other cultures believed? 😖
      Probably best you go take a powder...

    • @Thewanderer_378
      @Thewanderer_378 Місяць тому +2

      @@wittwfiii someone like Dr Heiser who has several more degrees than you or I. No one is absolutely correct on anything right?. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @tasuda9786
    @tasuda9786 Місяць тому

    Pre-scientific....lmfao. cmon......whaaat? One needs to believe, one needs not to believe...blah blah, this is a con game.