What Is The Mark of The Beast???

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  • Опубліковано 18 кві 2024
  • Welcome to another Episode of Ring Them Bells
    When we think of the book of Revelation many think about the Anti_christ and the Mark of the beast as if this is what is all about.
    The Bible tells us a different story.
    This episode will help you understand the Book of Revelation with more Biblical context and to see who is behind the Mask of the beast and what is this MArk we should avoid.
    Understanding the literary Genres of the Bible and how to navigate each meets the Bible on its own terms
    My early life as a believer was filled with preaching on the end times and living in fear of the tribulation and missing out on the rapture. So much energy and fear put towards a subject that seem to lead me away from the peace Jesus seemed to be offering.
    But then God...
    God has led me to a multitude of awesome teachers like Tim Mackie of the ‪@bibleproject‬ And Dr. Michael Heiser Author of the Unseen Realm ‪@DRMSH‬ Both of which led me to this incredible author and scholar Matthew Halsted and his book "The End of the world as You Know It - What the Bible Really Says About the End Times and Why it is Good News."
    Link to Purchase Book - a.co/d/ekOqsPf
    Christians are constantly fascinated with the subject of the end times. Even as we just had a solar eclipse pass over the U.S.A. many thought the end was near and that was Rapture was finally here....again.
    Over and over again Christians make our faith look foolish with the misuse of the book of Revelation.
    Let's examine the Anti-Christ and the Mark of the Beast
    You Won't Regret it!
    Stay Tuned!
    The Beginning is Near!
    Links to SOURCE MATERIAL AND REFERENCED VIDEOS
    1)Bible project Videos - Apocalyptic Lit- bibleproject.com/explore/vide...
    ---Bible Project Explainer of book of revelation part 1 - bibleproject.com/explore/vide...
    --Bible Project Explainer of book of revelation part 2 - bibleproject.com/explore/vide...
    2) HEISER - Prophecy and Apocalypse - • Prophecy and Apocalypt...
    3) HEISER - ESCHATOLOGY HUMILITY - • Prophecy Remains A Mys...
    AND- • Why I DISLIKE Eschatology
    4)BIBLE PROJECT PODCAST - bibleproject.com/podcast/heav...
    5) RING THEM BELLS INTERVIEW WITH MATTHEW HALSTED- • The End of the World a...
    #markofthebeast #prophecy #endtimes #revelation #heiser #holyspirit
    ‪@MatthewLHalsted‬
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  • @DinaTous
    @DinaTous 2 місяці тому +17

    All I can say is after 40 yrs of studying the Word……FINALLY! Ty

    • @lanabowers5332
      @lanabowers5332 2 місяці тому

      If you really want to understand Revelation (& also the gospels), read the works of Barbara Thiering, especially 'Jesus of rhe Apocalyse'. Before she passed away, she was the worlds leading expert on the Dead Sea Scrolls, & the pesher technique. Her works will help you immensely. They helped me. I've been studying all this for about 20 years. Also, read the works of Laurence Gardner. He was an archeological historian. His books are also amazing.

    • @frankm6546
      @frankm6546 2 місяці тому

      @@lanabowers5332 Another amazing book is "Reading Revelation Responsibly" by Michael Gorman

    • @wbdangelos8393
      @wbdangelos8393 2 місяці тому

      Bible eschatology is about the end of the old covenant and it's system of worship. All was fulfilled in AD70. No more temple, no priesthood, no more sacrifices. Most American Christians are totally deceived by the Zionists who want to rule the world. It Isn't theirs to rule.

  • @Zelda4U
    @Zelda4U 2 місяці тому +25

    Despite the nay-sayers, this video was great! Love this whole channel. I think that people are ready a fight at the first thought they don't agree with it and tear the video down.
    Where is the Brotherhood here. I love when Heiser did " Let the (insert biblical term here) be ( same term). like Let the Bible be the Bible. We all have different opinions but instead of fighting about theses differences, find some common ground.
    In the OT we read passages about Jesus and wonder how they missed it. They missed it for the same reason that we are missing it now. We're not going to know how it plays out until the minute it does. And then we'll all stand around saying duh. 😂😂

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому +2

      WOW 🔔 Thanks🥳✌️

    • @TommyStahr
      @TommyStahr 28 днів тому

      Amen. Jesus said the day will come as a snare on the whole earth (Luke 21). 2Thess2:11 is here. Trump is lawless. The church is fallen. They believe THE LIE. It's all fulfilled. Rev 13:11-16 is America. Two horns are right-wing Christians and Catholics. The GOP are NOT FOLLOWING JESUS. Matthew 7? Romans 2? 1946themovie proves the Bible is not anti-gay. It’s clearly anti-hate. Leviticus 19:18 is the one Jesus quoted. The Image of the Beast is right in front of you. Compare Exodus 13:16, Rev 13:16 & Matt 5:29. The Mark of the Beast is SIN. It's on us when we're born. We MUST BE BORN AGAIN. John 3:3. The Mark of God is the Holy Spirit. His word is truth. They broke it. 💔

  • @22yaweh777
    @22yaweh777 2 місяці тому +7

    Keep up the good work.

  • @erinvie
    @erinvie 2 місяці тому +8

    RTB I'm glad to see your channel blow up, because you're doing a great job. Bringing scholarship to the layperson, woot! ❤

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому +3

      Thank you very much! That means a lot. Praise be to God🥳🔔❤️

  • @dustybeckett4540
    @dustybeckett4540 2 місяці тому +5

    We may not all agree with one another here but this channel is great man. They make us think and dive deeper into the scriptures and it's an awesome place we can all come to glean from various views. And some very good ones to boot. Thanks Ring Them Bells. I'm blessed to have subscribed and y'all are in my prayers in Jesus' mighty name.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому +2

      Absolutely LOVE this comment and your heart. Praising God That He led you this channel 🥳🔔❤️

    • @dustybeckett4540
      @dustybeckett4540 2 місяці тому

      @@ringthembells143 Me too brother and thanks again.

  • @Charlie.a
    @Charlie.a 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you

  • @kimconnell760
    @kimconnell760 Місяць тому +1

    One of the best Christian platforms I have ever come across,

  • @willytangkere5784
    @willytangkere5784 2 місяці тому +3

    That’s why I love America , i am very lucky ended up here I meet or heard wonderful Brother and sister in spirit with Excellent knowledge of the truth

  • @missinglink_eth
    @missinglink_eth 2 місяці тому +8

    Revelation. Good news. Encouragement. Let’s talk more about the mark of the lamb. ❤

  • @helenenikki2391
    @helenenikki2391 2 місяці тому +14

    I know that the Most High leads us all the same when we are following His Way - but my mind is blown once again because I was just talking about this with my husband, I always say that it seems through Scripture that we are past all that and in satan's little time. And here's this video.
    Anyway, look UP my friends, my fellow sisters and brothers, Messiah is in the throne seat and He told us to look UP!

    • @michaelseay9783
      @michaelseay9783 2 місяці тому

      If you think we are still in Satan’s Little Season, then you are *_still_* deceived. Do you know what the other name is for the Little Season?

    • @AlSwearengen4
      @AlSwearengen4 2 місяці тому

      ​@@michaelseay9783Time of deception?

    • @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught
      @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught Місяць тому

      ​@@michaelseay9783What do you mean? how is she deceived? I'm not saying you are wrong but please show us the error so we can help each other.
      For example: You might say to this sister "The Most High does not lead us all the same way when we are following Him." Look at Enoch, Noah, Jonah, Daniel, Job, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Saul, David, Solomon. Uriah. Such unique and vastly different ways.

  • @ecuador9911
    @ecuador9911 2 місяці тому +11

    Another thought I had about the AntiChrist:
    Since we know from Scripture that the lineage of Abraham, ISAAC and Jacob produced the Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ, does it not seem logical that the lineage of Abraham, ISHMAEL, etc would produce the AntiChrist?

    • @wbdangelos8393
      @wbdangelos8393 2 місяці тому

      The Antichrist committed suicide in AD68. His name calculated to 666 in Hebrew Gematria. Caesar Nero.

    • @elizabeth84266
      @elizabeth84266 2 місяці тому

      I’ve always thought that the Antichrist will come from the lineage of Ham, Noah saw the corruption and exiled him after the flood for a reason. And he went and his line created all Pagan Gods and the false religions….

    • @brezlin-hamill
      @brezlin-hamill 2 місяці тому

      Televangelist ANTICHRIST is coming soon ........ inside your TV........( You won't miss it ...)

    • @greydogmusic
      @greydogmusic 2 місяці тому

      No, it’s not logical. The lineage of Jesus was because he is God and came to be a human. And lineage was needed to take him back to Adam as he is the second Adam. in human, we all fell and in a human, we are saved. The second atom needed to be human, also needed to be God because only God could fulfill the requirement.
      Holding the view that you do, the antichrist can’t be anything but human.
      If you’re trying to parallel Jesus, then you would need another immaculate conception from the devil for the antichrist to be born from. And then the human aspect would go through Abraham all the way back to Adam. There’s no parallel needed or suggested in any eschatological view that I’m familiar with that there should be one.
      I think it’s a fine thought and something to throw on the table and discuss, I just don’t think it’s logical.

    • @full_ArmourOfGod
      @full_ArmourOfGod Місяць тому +1

      Your revelation is unique to you so let no one else say otherwise. I don't see why not. Same notion with the tribe of Dan. Yahweh could not explicitlt reveal those end day truths. But we are all curious and glued toward that truth, without neglecting our individual salvation.
      May the Lord Jesus keep sustaining you, and keep in step with the Spirit.

  • @Funkydood
    @Funkydood 16 днів тому +1

    PLEASE NOTICE: Jerusalem is also a city built on 7 hills. That adds a whole new dimension to the biblical scenery.

  • @Larry1164-lb8uv
    @Larry1164-lb8uv 2 місяці тому +1

    Agreed. I think future prophecies are intentionally cryptic and unsolvable until they have passed or right upon us.
    The part about disregarding what people say when they have "solved" it is spot on.

  • @kingdomfocus8059
    @kingdomfocus8059 2 місяці тому +6

    To understand the mark of the beast, we must understand who and what is the Beast. John's Beast is Daniel's 4th Beast, and that is Rome personified in Rome's Emperor. Everything MUST fit within the Timeline the John was told, Opening in Rev 1:1 and 1:3 closing in Rev 22:6 and 22:10, especially when one sees God says to John in contrast to what he told Daniel. Daniel was told SEAL UP the words of the prophecy for the time is not yet, and John being told DO NOT seal up the prophecy for the time is at hand, does not and cannot be 2000 years later. Scripture is very clear.

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому

      Johns Beast is the same as Paul 's beast , a man that is killed and raises back to life incarnate with apollyon and receives power from satan

    • @AlSwearengen4
      @AlSwearengen4 2 місяці тому +1

      Not to mention all the other "imminent" language. "Behold, I come quickly", etc.

    • @Musick79
      @Musick79 2 місяці тому

      Ottoman Empire has been resurrected…
      Don’t buy Rome anymore.
      Resurrected Ottoman Empire is going after Israel and Christians…

    • @karens3805
      @karens3805 2 місяці тому +1

      Revelation is divided between the non sealed prophecy..those prophecies soon fulfilled. The dividing point comes when the 7 thunders sound and john is told to not write the words of the thunders. After that an angel from heaven reveals those prophecies in vision form that John writes but does not understand. This starts after the fall of the beast from the sea and is replaced by the 7 headed dragon beast ridden by the whore from the wilderness. Imo this represents Christianity becoming the whore and is what replaces the fallen beast of Rome. The catholic church rode the new beast and stepped into the Roman power that ruled from the seven hills city... mystery Babylon. Part of the prophecies were sealed so to speak because part of revelation is for many years ahead from time of writing. Just like in Daniel. The first part was fulfilled " at hand" just as John said.

    • @kingdomfocus8059
      @kingdomfocus8059 2 місяці тому +1

      @@karens3805 had Nothing to do with the Roman church. The time frame is locked into mid 1st Centry. Rev 1:1. 1:3. Closing Rev 22:6, Rev 22:10

  • @Deacondan240
    @Deacondan240 2 місяці тому +2

    Mocking those who falsely guessed the Mark does not give weight to the mark or being future.

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому +2

      It has not happened yet ,, so that indicates it is yet to come ....

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 2 місяці тому +3

    But he answered and said unto them, "Why do you also transgress *the commandment of God* by your TRADITION?”
    {Matthew 15:3}
    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the *tradition of men* after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    {Colossians 2:8}

  • @tonyyoung4590
    @tonyyoung4590 Місяць тому

    Im so grateful for the holy Spirit,who teaches me all things and shows me things to come!i have no need any man teach me because he will period

  • @TeeCeeBee
    @TeeCeeBee 2 місяці тому

    For more conformation of this point of view, I would suggest a book recently published- A Better End Times by Dan Coflin.

  • @arliegage1380
    @arliegage1380 2 місяці тому +3

    The devil KNOWS his own, the same as God Knows His.

    • @randman21
      @randman21 11 днів тому

      I agree and disagree at the same time. The devil THOUGHT he had one in me, and he did for a while. But God knew all along who I belonged to.

  • @winniecash1654
    @winniecash1654 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh, I know those voices. 😄

  • @joshuajames2425
    @joshuajames2425 2 місяці тому

    👍

  • @nathanshearer30
    @nathanshearer30 2 місяці тому +2

    No Christian should worry about unknowingly accepting the mark. Revelation clearly states the church rises up against the anti Christ. That happens because we know who he is and what he is doing. It will not be a mystery when it happens.

    • @cwschannel777
      @cwschannel777 2 місяці тому

      Revelation 19:20
      New King James Version
      20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he DECIEVED those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    • @nathanshearer30
      @nathanshearer30 2 місяці тому +1

      @@cwschannel777 They were deceived by the signs, not by the mark. They accepted the mark knowingly believing he was a God. Pull it up in the amplified.

    • @doncleveland1245
      @doncleveland1245 2 місяці тому

      No Christian will be here because of the rapture. Tribulation Saints must worry, because God sends a delusion, or maybe you didn't read that...

  • @TruthNBible
    @TruthNBible 2 місяці тому +2

    how does Tim Cohens work fit into your AC narrative ?

    • @williamdodds1394
      @williamdodds1394 2 місяці тому

      Well Tim believes Charles is the Antichrist and shows evidence in his coat of arms but Charles is 75 years old Jesus during his ministry ws in his 30s a big difference not a lot like Charles even in UK despite what media says maybe it will be handed to William funny that like me it contains I AM just a thought really.

  • @zvonimirtosic6171
    @zvonimirtosic6171 2 місяці тому +2

    For the learned guys supposed to explain things, many inaccuracies in the video. In the Revelation ch 17, first 11 verses: 7 hills is mentioned in reference to Babylon, not in reference to the Beast. That's a big difference. Babylon and Beast are separate entities. Beast comes out of the sea, not from the top of 7 hills. So using the Beast as the reference to Rome and Rome's 7 hills, is not correct. I wonder have those guys even read the original text?! So that theory that "Rome = Beast" falls apart, which in consequence refutes whatever else they hade theorised.

  • @katy_diddit6485
    @katy_diddit6485 2 місяці тому +3

    I always thought it was directly connected with the Shema

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому +3

      Yes it is an Anti-Shema

    • @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught
      @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught Місяць тому

      You ALWAYS thought that? It took me years just to learn how to read and talk. 😅 lol I joke. I used to struggle with lying. I realized even a small white lie matters. When I spoke in absolutes,(Always, never, all, none, 100%...) it changed the truth into a lie. After correcting myself over and over, I spot it when others do it and sometimes say a snarky joke.

    • @stevetobe4494
      @stevetobe4494 Місяць тому

      The Hebrew letter Vav looks like the number 7 and has a numeric value of six. Three letter Vav's is 777 which looks like the letter shin but not connected at the bottom, a false shin. The letter shin was on the prayer box the Jews wore on their heads and left hand. The letter shin is on the mezuzah or the door post. It stands for the word Shadai, the Almighty. The three valleys in Jerusalem make a letter Shin and Jerusalem is where the Almighty says many times is where he put his name.

  • @eraygo
    @eraygo 2 місяці тому +2

    This video feels like men interpreting through logic of what John said rather than understanding that this is divine revelation by Jesus Christ.
    Everything about this video feels wrong.

  • @David-fg5xv
    @David-fg5xv 24 дні тому

    Have you heard of Walid Shoebat? He has a remarkable take on the mark.

  • @BleachedWheat
    @BleachedWheat 2 місяці тому

    Every time period tries to fulfill prophecy, but the one time period that fulfills 100%, is the final one.

  • @tylerbarrett6652
    @tylerbarrett6652 29 днів тому

    Those idioms... they can go right by us if we aren't careful. A good believer definitely knows where his/her towel is.

  • @dominoediggs4790
    @dominoediggs4790 2 місяці тому +2

    Considering the Bible tells us that the Anti-Christ will worship the 'god of forces'(war & violence), where his ancestors were from, etc., it points us to a Muslim. One who worships Islam and their fod of forces which would be Allah. I can't help but think the mark on the forehead may be a prayer callous. The zabiba or zebiba, aka a 'raisin', which comes from dedicated prayer and worship to Allah. We also know Muslims are required to use the right hand, for eating, drinking, saying the name of Allah, and so on.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому +6

      There’s more wrong with this than there is right. Jesus proved that God is interested in defeating the enemies that are behind the scenes of the evil supernatural powers. Whether it’s Islam or the corrupt political system of the United States of America it is the evil forces behind that God dealt with through the victory of the cross and resurrection. These evil power brokers whether through religious systems or corrupt political systems may have their time under the sun for now, but the sun is bringing everything underneath his feet with his bride who is the church… that’s what revelation teaches us.

    • @brezlin-hamill
      @brezlin-hamill 2 місяці тому

      Three Antichrist s.....come
      1-2-3
      🔱
      🗼 🗼 🗼 🤕 🗼 🗼 🗼
      🐆
      🗼 ( The body is the 8th ..)
      The ' Horns ' represent men atop a pyramid ( scheme ) Satan simply moves these men into position.....inside various sectors.......of. ... WORLD ...POWERs
      The Head with wound was healed...( Symbolic for. Church ..)
      One Antichrist is " Great Deciever " will arise in China News cycle....
      One will be positioned inside Vatican
      One will be American ( Prosperity Gospel preaching ) Televangelist - Mega Church.

  • @annigard8
    @annigard8 2 місяці тому

    Symbols in the heavens & skies?

  • @gabriellehoffman7572
    @gabriellehoffman7572 2 місяці тому +2

    PATTERN is Prophecy. Look for the patterns. Just as God has encoded repeating patterns into His creation, ie fractals, His revelation is the Word is the same.

  • @ThembaMaselane
    @ThembaMaselane 2 місяці тому +2

    When it comes to eschatology I'm content with the post millennial partial preterist position which while addressing the prophecies while living room for the supernatural.

    • @greydogmusic
      @greydogmusic 2 місяці тому

      I would encourage you to not be "content" .. but to always study and consider the views with the harmony and story of scripture..... And be willing to define... I don't know what you mean by "post millennial".... in the classic definition it is after 1000 literal years. I would tell you that there is not 1000 literal years. And partial preterist is great, but know the difference in full preterist views. I would be considered full, but not anything like the "full" I see many advocate. Therefore, I don't use the term for myself..... so I will never be content but continually study to see if I missed anything and if my view holds up to scripture. If I stayed content I would still be a dispensational pre-mill...

  • @astridlarsen1779
    @astridlarsen1779 9 днів тому

    "Created in the image of God" Gen. 1.26. "Image" refers to how God operates through his system/Government. To worship an "image", is perhaps to worship the world system, Mammon/the beast.

  • @TheresaGraf
    @TheresaGraf 2 місяці тому +3

    Just think how easy it was for many governments to coerce so many into taking a certain treatment just a few years back. How many of you willingly fell in line? Think about it.

  • @vinnybaggins
    @vinnybaggins 2 місяці тому +3

    "The beginning is near." That is indeed a smart saying! I like it.
    Remembers me of the end of Narnia - The Last Battle:
    "And as He spoke He no longer looked to them like a lion;
    but the things that began to happen after that
    were so great and beautiful that I cannot write them.
    And for us this is the end of all the stories,
    and we can most truly say that they all lived happily ever after.
    But for them it was only the beginning of the real story.
    All their life in this world and all their adventures in Narnia
    had only been the cover and the title page:
    now at last they were beginning Chapter One of the Great Story,
    which no one on earth has read: which goes on for ever:
    in which every chapter is better than the one before."

  • @thinkwhileitslegal
    @thinkwhileitslegal 2 місяці тому +1

    Elon Musk's "Neuralink"

  • @Lili-Benovent
    @Lili-Benovent 3 дні тому

    THE NEW ORDER Lili
    O We belong to you dear Lord, you've given us the mark
    The mark we bear upon our wrists
    Protection, love and power strong, the secrets of the dark
    The secrets all the Ancients knew have not been lost in time
    Dispersed among your Devotees, those with proven faith
    The star will draw the secrets out, imprinted on our minds.
    You have taught us how to send our thoughts
    Move things that should not move, fly the night and tame the sky
    Talk to those who've left our world, they haven't left at all
    Bring them back within our lives, once born will never die
    We talk to stars, we talk to trees, the beasts and creatures small.
    The Sabbats are our special time as seasons come and go
    The harvests and the coldest times bring Baal and Moloch near
    Our God, Keeper of the Dark, Ahriman appear
    The Prince of Flames is brought to life, dancing in our fires
    We drink the life, the Blood, the Salt, the Earth, the Water, rain
    The frenzy grows, the joy we know, we sate of all desires.
    We're clandestine, our clans control the ones who think they lead
    Their minds are weak, over time they learn
    We take the best and show the way, of power, lust abound
    They take our potions, take our thoughts and we all own the world
    Unknown to all we shape the way, we take away, the life you think you've found
    But centered round our way of life, is knowledge, joy and love
    The things we change, tho slow to take, will make the world more sound.

  • @margarethewende4187
    @margarethewende4187 2 місяці тому +2

    Are we unwittingly SERVING THE WAR MACHINE WITH OUR TAXES .just a thought that it would make a aparty to those crimes.We shouldnt support any wars.

  • @Arun-tb2wr
    @Arun-tb2wr Місяць тому

    Hi

  • @Abouezili
    @Abouezili 2 місяці тому

    Do y'all think the trade union leadership who were also leaders of worship, etc back then could have anything to do with freemasonsry?

  • @wmarkfish
    @wmarkfish 2 місяці тому +1

    We all are living in the end times, if not the end of all, at least your personal end...in a few years, or sooner. Those people 100 years ago, or 1000 years ago who thought the end was near...turns out they were right, they’re all are dead now.

  • @truthblitz7
    @truthblitz7 2 місяці тому +2

    To maintain that Revelation applied only to 1st century christians is to deny the sufficiency of scripture and the foreknowledge of God. I refuse to participate as a modern christian who is required to sit in the auditorium and be told : " here is a vision given to only Jewish christians in the 1st century which applied to their day but not to OUR DAY. Why would the Lord give us an apocalyptic vision in such detail and then say it only applied to the 1st century. Oh and that part where a third of the world was supposed to be burnt up? That actually never happened....

    • @Rom10.8
      @Rom10.8 2 місяці тому

      Anyone not accepting Romans 10:9 is against YHWH, as no one comes to the Father except through the Son Jesus, YESHUA.

    • @greydogmusic
      @greydogmusic 2 місяці тому

      why would he give only 1st century christians something that applied to them and not our day ... easy, it applied to them. Did Noah telling the people of his day the flood was coming not the same thing? Did God telling Israel what would happen to them if they broke His covenant the same thing? Didn't apply to the Romans, not under HIs covenant. When Jesus told the disciples that the Temple would be torn down, did it apply to anyone at the time other than the Jews. Did any other nation care? .... If ... If the prophesy of Revelation was written in 65 to warn the Christians at that time to get out, why do you think we in the 21st century have to have it apply to us? Isn't it the best proof that Jesus predicted something so devastating that came to pass 40 years later enough of an application to us to show He is the Messiah? .. There are lots of Old Testament passages that pertain to Israel that are hot applied to us so nothing says that Revelation HAS to pertain to the modern church. It is just an interpretation, maybe right, maybe wrong. That is why we discuss it. ..... Why so detailed, Taking a preterist position here, to show the christians how serious it is to break covenant and to show that he would do and did do what he told Israel would take place if they broke his covenant....as far as "a third of the world was supposed to be burnt up? That actually never happened..." You interpret that as literal, ever think it would be symbolic as many parts are? You as a 21st century Christian know of the "world/planet".. They did not. To the Jew at that time world was the Roman Empire. As far a burning of course the views that are not pre-mellenial have an answer to that. That is where study comes in. I think one should study all views and see how they handle the hard passages and how each line up with the salvation story. ... now, taking a pre-millennial position, a third of the earth can mean....The figure of ‘a third’ used in each of the first four trumpets reveals that God’s judgments are partial and destructive, but not yet final... so it is symbolic in both positions... unless your a literalist... bring on the locust.

    • @truthblitz7
      @truthblitz7 2 місяці тому +1

      @@greydogmusic I still maintain that to try to explain everything away symbolically is to deny the plain meaning of scripture. "Has God spoken and will he not DO it?". You are saying that the many prophecies regarding the messiah and Israel are actual events transpiring on earth and then you split the personality and say but any other prophecies (i.e. cataclysms and end times) are merely symbolic. Noah was not only grounded in time and space but the events were FORETOLD by God and God warned them beforehand. Peter says Noah is instructive but in a future time it will be destruction by fire. Revelation expands on Peter's end time statement by prophesying how thus will unravel in the end times with heavenly (astronomical) events as well as earthly events such as the earth being burned up. I simply cannot subscribe to a view which carves up scripture and says this bit is future prophetic but this other bit does not mean what it sounds like, it is instead symbolic.

    • @greydogmusic
      @greydogmusic 2 місяці тому

      @@truthblitz7 your analysis is very disjointed... you say you won't which only means you are not able to describe your view and counter view in accurate detail. If one holds a preterist view they are not 'explaining away" using symbolism .They are taking the symbolism in the Old Testament and applying it to the symbolism in Revelation. ... That does not "deny" the plain meaning of scripture... It might deny your view of some things being literal. I have no idea what you are saying, has god spoken and will he not do it... God has spoken in the Old Testament what he would do the the Jews if they broke his covenant, the preterist view is, he did it. He did what he said he would do.... I have no idea how you say that I said I said that "other prophecies" are symbolic... you have to be more specific... Revelation does contain apocalyptic language that you can find in the Old Testament. Not sure if the is what you refer to. As far as God warning before the flood, yes, I would say God warned Jews before 70 ad also... Revelation. Same thing. And he warned them in the Old Testament. ... I am not sure what verses you are saying about Peter and Revelation expanding on it.. .but, I would agree. Peter told them what was going to happen, Revelation affirmed it, It happen. To us it is past. ... It makes sense that it is this way, in the pre-mil view there is a prophecy, it comes to past... i.e the rapture, then anyone after that who reads the Bible, it is history to them... same principle. ... The astronomical events you refer to, I assume it is the same ones you see in the OT... Ezekiel 32:7.. literal?? Micah 1:4 ... and there are many more... But Revelation has to be literal. Only because that is what you were taught. ... as far as you saying you can not subscribe to a view which carves up scripture and says this bit is future prophetic but this other bit does not mean what it sounds like... First, I did not carve up anything. I said some of it that you may take literal might be symbolic. It is done, look at the parables, can be taken literal but they are symbolic. ... So yes, some of the literal things you read could be symbolic. Like the fire. As I quoted a pre-mil who said so. There are many things a pre-mill had to say is not literal. If the Tribulation is future, How can John say he was a partaker in it. If the book was written in 95 after the destruction how does John say measure the temple. It's gone. ... I am not saying you have to take it that I am correct. I do say you should learn all teaching as accurately as you can and let the Holy Spirt teach you as he sees fit. Be able to explain the views and see what the weakness are, and the errors. I heard a sermon the other day where the pastor said it was fullfilled in 70 ad but it also will be fulfilled in our future.... NO where in the passage did it say anything about the future. He injected it. why. Because that is what he was taught. I went to a pre-mil college, pre-mil seminary so I know the teaching. I understand the preterist position somewhat. Not as well as I am still learning it. I do hold that it is more in harmony with the teachings of scripture.. but that is hours and hours of study and books. .. neither your nor I could lay down our auguments here. Which I know your position already anyway. My challenge to you is learn the other position(s) whether you hold them or not. Only so you represent them accurately when you explain why you have a problem with it. And both sides have some variations so we may not get all the data. We do our best... Crown to Cross here on Facebook is a good place to learn. I may not agree with everything he says but he does a good job of going through scripture. His past week of stuff is pretty stellar. You say you can't believe..yea you can if you see how it lays out and The HS convinces you that it is accurate. That is up to him. As I said, I was a dispensationalist for many years. But, had questions that just did not make sense. The New Covenant position answers them, and makes mores sense to me Gods workings in scripture. I have a friend, ex pastor, that sends me stuff all the time. I listen to the sermons. Today was John McArthur on Revelation 8. I listen. There might be something I missed. I encourage him and you, look into the other views... RC Sproul here on YT the last days according to Jesus. 12 thirty min. messages. I pass that along and a "introduction".. just so people learn. Don't have to agree. I have changed doctrines over the years. Don't think you can't, you might be surprised. Let the Bible tell you what is symbolic and what fits. Most of all, read the Bible as a fist century Christian. That is who it was written to. Much applies to us, but some of it only applied to its audience. The books of Corinthians, do you have the problems in your life that Paul covered. It applied to what was going on in that congregation. We learn from it and apply it as needed to us. Are women to keep silent in the church? No. It was for the problem that they were having. Only applies to us if we acquire the same problem.... May God bless your studies and you get the last word. As I said, it is too much and too many hours of discussion for messages to each other. I have watched hours and hours of teaching and debate on yourtube. Taken notes and compared. can't do it this way. Good luck and learn it accurately, even your own view as if questions come your way... have the answer... and gog and maggot are not Russia... And remember, Rev 11:8, boils will lie in the street of the great city which mystacally is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified... Literal?..it is Jerusalem ...Read slowly and you might find Babylon may refer to Jerusalem too. I love that you also are passionate for the word.

    • @truthblitz7
      @truthblitz7 2 місяці тому +1

      I appreciate your response but i will end with this. There are so many old testament unfulfilled prophecies that your preterist view fail to explain. One example is the 3rd temple which never existed. How do you explain a temple that never was? Until we admit it must be future? I should add i have never seen myself as a dispensationalist. I was never taught prophecy at my church (end times prpphecy) I came to the conclusion through reading the bible and later confirmed it with online theological teaching. However you used the label "dispensationist" not me! I don't believe in a pre-trib rapture and i do believe in premillenialism.

  • @bukharagunboat8466
    @bukharagunboat8466 2 місяці тому +2

    The preterist understanding that the Dragon is the spiritual force of evil, the beast from the sea is the Roman Empire, and the Beast from the Land is the local leaders in Asia Minor has strong merit. We have to take that seriously. The inability of those who did not sacrifice to the Emperor cult to do business was a major problem for the early church (see the later Docetist schism in Carthage). Yes, the Mark represents Nero. The spirit of Nero keeps coming back, and Christians of all eras need to endure persecution with patience and faithful witness. The Mark goes on the forehead and wrist; it is the Spirit of Lawlessness.

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому +3

      preterists will be caught off guard like many others will

    • @DinaTous
      @DinaTous 2 місяці тому +1

      No matter your view, take it all into consideration, stay connected to the vine and stay alert. 💖

    • @larrybedouin2921
      @larrybedouin2921 2 місяці тому

      Preterism is a counter-reformation false doctrine spawned from the pen of the Jesuit monk Luis de Alcaser circa. 1601 A.D.

    • @larrybedouin2921
      @larrybedouin2921 2 місяці тому

      And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
      {Revelation 17:15}
      The seven headed beast of Revelation 17:
      The seven heads are symbolic of seven kingdoms, starting with the beast of Daniel chapter 7
      1st < Babylon
      2nd < Medo-Persia
      3rd < Greece
      4th < Pagan Rome
      5th < Papal Rome; the little horn
      ("that was" & "is not" & "yet is")
      6th < "one is"
      ^
      The woman that rides the beast is in captivity at the time of John's vision, AFTER receiving the deadly wound from the (atheist) beast from the bottomless pit [Rev 11:7]. This is the beast of THE TIME of John's vision IN THE WILDERNESS.
      (Meaning that John is in the wilderness in his vision and not physical on Patmos, and he sees a beast that would come up from out of this wilderness. Read Job 38:26.)
      The 7th < "is not yet come"
      At the time of John's vision *in the wilderness* this head of the beast was yet to come; this is *the beast from out of the earth* [Rev 13:11];
      (And he shall exercise all of the power of the first beast...) when this beast will speak like a dragon.
      This beast must continue a short time, as per the others before him.
      I believe by the testimony of Jesus, that we are now living in that "short time".
      The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
      {Revelation 17:8}
      :11...even he is the eighth, AND IS OF THE SEVEN, and ascends out of the bottomless pit and goes into perdition.
      --There are seven heads at the time of John's vision, five kings/heads/beast are fallen, so this eighth is of the seven kingdoms...."that was"...."and is not"...."yet is" AND received a deadly wound; AND his deadly wound was healed.
      This wound is the loss of her (the woman/church that rides the beast.) temporal sword (also her captivity), which is the earthly secular world kingdom.
      This is the image of the beast (that great city), who like Babylon of antiquity, who thinks to usurp church and state craft.
      The number eight is a metaphor for the resurrection. The eighth is resurrected from a former head of the seven; the 5th head that received a deadly wound.
      (When he shall go into perdition: this will be the final dispensation of this beast with seven heads, that is a metaphor for satan.)
      Jesus;
      (The resurrection; Jn 11:25) Ἰησοῦς/Iēsous = 888
      by counting the letter values of the Greek transliteration;
      I(10), E(8), S(200), O(70), U(400), S(200).
      In antiquity the mountain was not only a metaphor for a kingdom, but it was also symbolic of the head of a (river) dragon that was symbolic of a river that flows out from a mountain, after the spring thaw and overflowing its banks, spreading out in the form of the dragon's tail.
      The color is scarlet because it is symbolic of the blood of the saints of the Lord.
      A woman in prophecy is always a metaphor for a church, in this case (Jezebel) it is the fallen temple of God.
      The false prophet, a lamb (Christ like) with two horns, and/but will speak like a dragon (a wolf in sheep's clothing), will be the beast (from out of the earth ... the USA) that will make an image unto the first beast from out of the sea, who received a deadly wound and his deadly wound was healed.
      The two horns are a metaphor for two (equal) kingdoms in one, church and state craft.
      Medo-Persia also is expressed as having two horns [Dan 8:3], but one was higher, (Persia) and eventually usurps the other.
      This is the image of the first beast from out of the sea (Papal Rome). Once the wall of separation of church and state is lost, then will the second beast from out of the earth become the image of the first beast, who claims the authority of both church and state.
      Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen.

    • @truthblitz7
      @truthblitz7 2 місяці тому

      No this view is not right. Nero was local Revelation and the antichrist is clearly global. To say simply that the early christians viewed the Roman empire as their "whole world" is to read into it with extra biblical suppositions. The apostle john says that a third of the earth was burned up. It is clear John was prophesying of the whole globe and not just the Roman empire. In fact nowhere at all does it speak of the Roman empire in Revelation.

  • @ex8722
    @ex8722 2 місяці тому

    666 is also mentored in the key of solomon if i remember correctly... long before nero...
    666 Is given as the actual number of the beast. Now, it doesn't explain why, but it also uses 777 for the redeemer figure...

  • @move_i_got_this5659
    @move_i_got_this5659 2 місяці тому

    This is why Revelation is one of my least read books in the Bible.
    I only read it when I go through the entire Bible.
    I just finished it today and I will start Genesis tomorrow.

    • @greydogmusic
      @greydogmusic 2 місяці тому

      I don’t know if it’s true, I heard Martin Luther wanted to throw it into the river.

  • @AsherSolomon777
    @AsherSolomon777 2 місяці тому +1

    How many talents of gold did Solomon demand in 1 Kings 10:14???

  • @telefellavision
    @telefellavision 2 місяці тому +1

    ‭2 Chronicles 9:13 KJV‬
    [13] Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred and threescore and six talents of gold;
    ‭1 Kings 10:14 KJV‬
    [14] Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,

    ‭Genesis 4:15 KJV‬
    [15] And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
    ‭Revelation 7:2-3 KJV‬
    [2] And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, [3] saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

  • @byronumphress3805
    @byronumphress3805 2 місяці тому +2

    WHAT IF IT IS FROM, JOHN 14:26,
    JUST AS EMMANUEL JESUS CHRIST CAME IN FLESH AND MANY MISSED HE, SHALOM

    • @byronumphress3805
      @byronumphress3805 2 місяці тому +1

      EVIL HAS NOW SPREAD TO THE SEVEN CONTINENTS OF THE EARTH, SHALOM

  • @jeremybuultjens
    @jeremybuultjens 2 місяці тому +2

    These guys appear to be clueless.

  • @LJ-jh9qi
    @LJ-jh9qi Місяць тому

    People can make that number apply however and to whomever. The fact is that only one man was given (he who has) wisdom, and that man was Solomon. The answer is already provided in the OT, where Messiah in Revelation was so clearly pointing the reader back to to gain the understanding! That beast and their end sign (mark) has most certainly materialized in our day, very clearly!! Mkay, bye

  • @DanMaul-ip1is
    @DanMaul-ip1is Місяць тому +1

    It would appear the mark of the beast is a rainbow flag

  • @thedude4594
    @thedude4594 2 місяці тому +1

    616 explained as a mistake by church fathers. It’s not even debatable

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому +1

      Church Fathers are not authoritative...Only three of them even knew Hebrew...FYI

  • @ePCAYT
    @ePCAYT 2 місяці тому

    The "Mark of the Beast" = Jn. 6:66
    IE, to experience Christ, but "to walk with Him no more..."
    for hard teachings (even this one)...

  • @BentIronBins
    @BentIronBins 2 місяці тому +2

    I doesn’t matter what is the mark just don’t take it. You will know what the mark is when it happens you can’t take it unwillingly you will know because it’s worship.

    • @cwschannel777
      @cwschannel777 2 місяці тому

      Revelation 19:20
      New King James Version
      20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he DECIEVED those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    • @doncleveland1245
      @doncleveland1245 2 місяці тому

      True Christians will not be here. The channel owner and all his followers will be here, so it will be something he will have to worry about. God sending a great delusion should worry them however, I wouldn't want to oppose God on anything...

    • @BentIronBins
      @BentIronBins 2 місяці тому +1

      @@doncleveland1245 if there is a pre trib rapture like you say what makes you believe that the people that have this channel and its followers won’t get swept up as well if they are followers of Christ. Just because they don’t believe in a pre trib doesn’t matter don’t know where you got this special knowledge from. I wouldn’t be second guessing God that could turn out very bad for yourself

    • @BentIronBins
      @BentIronBins 2 місяці тому +2

      @@doncleveland1245 the great delusion could very well be the pre trib belief

  • @allenbrininstool7558
    @allenbrininstool7558 2 місяці тому +1

    What about Daniel 9 and Ezekiel 38?

    • @GraniteChief369
      @GraniteChief369 2 місяці тому +2

      Consider specific text as a single tree, in a grove of trees, in a very large forest. One can not understand the forest by reading a single tree, one must view the tree through the lens of a healthy forest.

    • @michaelseay9783
      @michaelseay9783 2 місяці тому

      @@GraniteChief369Tell me what mark is being applied upon the people’s foreheads in Ezekiel 9.

    • @GraniteChief369
      @GraniteChief369 2 місяці тому +1

      @@michaelseay9783 These 'marks' are metaphors for buying into corrupt systems. Like when someone today says 'I have a ton of work to do' does not literally mean 2000 lbs worth of work.

    • @LonLo-fi7wc
      @LonLo-fi7wc 2 місяці тому

      @@michaelseay9783 No one knows yet , but it will be something you must prove you have to be able to buy or sell ,,, much more than a metaphor

  • @kevinmorris4517
    @kevinmorris4517 2 місяці тому +4

    19:00 The number 616 was a scribal error and the writings of the early Church fathers addressed this by confirming the number was 666 and 616 was not an accurate scroll copy. Dead Sea scholar Dr. Ken Johnson addresses this in his teaching on the subject.

    • @Strongtower
      @Strongtower 2 місяці тому +3

      Ken Johnson is not a Dead Sea Scrolls Scholar. Also, neither his degree nor his wife's degree is from an accredited school. You can't even find any record of his college and his wife's college is described as a "diploma mill".
      He may have studied the dead sea scrolls, but he is neither a doctor nor a scholar. Those are titles that are earned.

    • @winniecash1654
      @winniecash1654 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@Strongtower He may not be a scholar, but certainly, we can still learn from him. He does seem to put time into study and research.

    • @greydogmusic
      @greydogmusic 2 місяці тому +1

      it is not a scribal error. Research the numbers... from what I find, the 616 is the oldest manuscript... so it would have to be a guess that it is an error... the 666 being later could be argued that it was the error. Other explanation for the difference is different spelling for Nero's name. Nero/Neron ... Other explanations are 666 is greek spelling of Neron Kaiser and 616 Latin spelling of Nero Caesar transliterated into Hebrew.... No matter what direction one wants to approach it, you can end up with Nero.

    • @Strongtower
      @Strongtower 2 місяці тому +2

      @@greydogmusic ​​⁠ Hello brother, it seems like you flipped it on accident. People say 666 comes out to Nero if transliterated into Hebrew and 616 comes out to Nero in Latin. Either way this is a theological interpretation that came years and years after the book of Revelation. It doesn't make much sense either considering John was writing to Greek readers in Asia Minor, they would not be reading Hebrew.
      Manuscript evidence shows that 666 is what John wrote, not 616 (see Bruce Metzger or Philip Comfort). All of the manuscripts we have of Revelation 13:18 contain 666 except two (P115 from middle of third century and Uncial C from fifth century). Like the OP said, Irenaeus (early church father and disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of John) writes in the middle of the second century and says that 616 is a scribal error and that 666 is original. Talking about 666, he says "it's found in all good and ancient copies" and is "attested by those who had themselves seen John face to face". This is found in Against Heresies 5.30.1. So even though two early manuscripts we currently have may say 616, this Christian writer in the second century is also aware of this 616 reading and says that all of his early manuscripts say 666 and that people who knew John say it was 666

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому +1

      In the original Greek text Revelation was written in , it is spelled out in words , as six hundred ; sixty and six

  • @Randy_Cox
    @Randy_Cox Місяць тому

    All this speculation is under the assumption that John wrote the book before the fall of the temple and Jerusalem....but many believe the book was written later, like 90ad. If that is true, none of this would even make sense as it would be a past event at the writing of the book and not soon coming.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому

      Even written after Rome was still a huge threat and would fit the bill

    • @Randy_Cox
      @Randy_Cox Місяць тому

      @ringthembells143 no it wouldn't. Nero wouldn't have been ceaser, there would have been no way for the enemies to surround Jerusalem as it was destroyed and empty. There was no way to control who bought and sold...and a ton of other parts of rev, that just could not have been after 90ad.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  Місяць тому

      @@Randy_Cox maybe you’re missing the point that I’m saying it’s still a political critique about Rome given its context regardless of date

  • @markpfahler7299
    @markpfahler7299 2 місяці тому

    If you read the Book of Revelation;mark 2 things with regard to the Mark of the Beast. There are 2 peoples mentioned in a negative way. Those that take the Mark of the Beast;and those that worship the Beast. They are treated as 2 separate peoples but are destined to Hell and the Lake of Fire. Based on Scripture the Mark of the Beast is regional but the worship of the Beast is planetary or throughout the World. The key word in Revelation is Worship. You will see a pattern. It is very clear in Rev. 19:20. Those that received the Mark and those that worshipped the Beast.

  • @jtlc100
    @jtlc100 2 місяці тому

    sitting on the fence

  • @fruitful7753
    @fruitful7753 2 місяці тому +1

    Islamic Eschatology and the Book of Revelations, video by Joel Richardson is a good video on yt about the beast tribulation end times.

    • @doncleveland1245
      @doncleveland1245 2 місяці тому

      Steer clear of Joel and his team. Not a good place to be.

  • @nchhimfinch214
    @nchhimfinch214 2 місяці тому +2

    @lemnisgate8809
    Boy oh boy I can tell YOU obviously never actually read or listened to Dr Heiser! He was actually humble, self deprecating and willing to teach and share scripture - from Old Testament CONTEXT. Check your own pettiness and MAYBE, someday, you’ll reach a few MILLION believers to have a better understanding of the scriptures and awaken them to the ‘Unseen Realm’ and its affect throughout the ages, as he did with his vast knowledge & Faith.

    • @nchhimfinch214
      @nchhimfinch214 2 місяці тому

      @lemnisgate8809 - my comment was for you!

  • @stevemccorkel5004
    @stevemccorkel5004 2 місяці тому

    You did not conclude this. It’s been taught by many for many years

  • @Deacondan240
    @Deacondan240 2 місяці тому

    If you take an Idealist view of Revelation, then truly, all the symbolic figures can have a multitude of literal manifested fulfillments. Tue question to ask is: “Does the Idealist view carry enough weight to claim exclusive hermeneutic method of meaning?”
    I will say this: Daniel’s visions were the OT apocalypse. Scholars point to a a few literal and specified historical fulfillments for Daniel. It covers the coming of Messiah, God’s ppl rejecting, abomination and desolation , and a hope. It does not have an Idealist interpretation. Neither does Revelation.

  • @Artus-sh1es
    @Artus-sh1es 2 місяці тому +1

    It's disheartening to see some of the answers on the net... it can be cause for falling into psychosis or easy manipulation to some people.

  • @RayRestored
    @RayRestored 2 місяці тому +1

    I have recently found out the 1 John and 2 John the letters after he returned from exile clarify a lot of instructions for us as believers. I can be wrong but I believe they were written after he received the Revelation. It reminds us how to endure and what that looks like as a believer.

    • @WALKINTHEWAY600
      @WALKINTHEWAY600 2 місяці тому

      Wait it was written after? That’s mindblowing!

  • @AlSwearengen4
    @AlSwearengen4 2 місяці тому

    Yeah, def Kissinger 😆

  • @paulmckey634
    @paulmckey634 2 місяці тому +2

    Yea well don't put your guard down too low you don't know what was in that jab you know buy or sell oh but that hasn't happened yet well the deceiver wasn't going to wait until that happens but you wait they will, come for the rest of us I think we can identify the first and second beast and the who're huge part of the clue

  • @ecuador9911
    @ecuador9911 2 місяці тому +2

    Great insight. I understood you to say:
    “You receive the mark of the beast when you have sworn allegiance to ‘team beast’.”
    “It identifies who you worship.”
    Just asking, but if a significant portion of earth’s population take it as their mantra to proclaim “there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” and write this mantra on green cloth to wear on their foreheads and arms, have those people not (both willingly and publicly) taken “the mark of the beast” by proclaiming allegiance to what that statement clearly says?

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому

      a significant portion of earth’s population will die before the beast kingdom rises into power , most people do not realize this because no one is talking about it and assumes the beast does it all

    • @doncleveland1245
      @doncleveland1245 2 місяці тому

      Don't forget the great delusion God will bring on them. I wouldn't want to oppose God on anything, or be deluded by him.

  • @jamesondoggomus4023
    @jamesondoggomus4023 2 місяці тому

    Star of David (Seal of Solomon):
    Six pointed symbol comprised of six triangles around a six sided polygon. The Synagogue of Satan.

  • @Huntngame
    @Huntngame 2 місяці тому

    Mat 24:36-51. Stay in our lane.

  • @bhangrafan4480
    @bhangrafan4480 2 місяці тому +1

    Censoring me will not save you from what is coming. Revelation 19:19 - 21

  • @SeanRhoadesChristopher
    @SeanRhoadesChristopher 2 місяці тому +1

    What does Torah and Wisdom literature tell us is an abomination to the LORD? Whatever is the sum of all of those abominations and sets itself up in the Temple of the LORD is the beast, and the mark it forces on others will be obvious. It could be here already! 😮

    • @TheresaGraf
      @TheresaGraf 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes, especially when Paul reminds us that WE are now the Temple that the Holy Spirit chooses to reside within.

    • @SeanRhoadesChristopher
      @SeanRhoadesChristopher 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TheresaGraf “The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.” (Psalms 10:4, KJV)

  • @TheFiretrail7
    @TheFiretrail7 2 місяці тому

    They were speaking and writing in Aramaic .....

  • @danielroehm2822
    @danielroehm2822 Місяць тому

    These men are teaching preterism, which will place all of the realizations of prophesy in the past.

  • @danielpenn1734
    @danielpenn1734 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm thinking of 666 as, man made man. A.i. ?

    • @johnbegario7572
      @johnbegario7572 2 місяці тому

      Agreed. AI is man’s attempt at being like God. This will not end well for humanity but this is not a surprise to God.

  • @donnylastella9441
    @donnylastella9441 2 місяці тому

    Written as in tattoos ❓

  • @tommykeefer1307
    @tommykeefer1307 2 місяці тому

    Strong’s Concordance 666 of Revelation 13:18 is G5516 three Greek letters meaning 600,60 and an obsolete number between 5&6. The last letter is Stigma meaning a puncture showing OWNERSHIP, G4742.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому

      IMO. Not a reliable source✅❤️🔔

    • @juliebaggs6475
      @juliebaggs6475 2 місяці тому

      @ringthebell. WhatWould you suggest using instead of strongs???

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому +1

      @@juliebaggs6475 Lots of different resources. I use an interlinear Bible, mixed with Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon and Robert Alter's Hebrew Translation with Commentary. Those are great ways to get to the root meaning of the word or phrase. What do you mainly use Strongs for?

    • @lifthimup1278
      @lifthimup1278 2 місяці тому +1

      Strongs is highly regarded world wide as a very reliable source , it is not perfect but none is perfect , I see on Strongs and others as six hundred - sixity - and six , and some side notes that mention 616 , there is no other definitions , even so since Nero committed suicide and was not killed by Jesus in the 2nd coming , it is not possible that Nero is the beast of Rev 13 or 2 Thess 2
      Strongs is a concordance that provides the original Greek words and Hebrew words and their meaning

    • @lifthimup1278
      @lifthimup1278 2 місяці тому +1

      The only people that don't like Strongs is those when Strongs oppose or refute a meaning that is incorrect is placed on the words . Using bible translations are quite varied so using a english translation or various versions bring in confusion because there are many Greek and Hebrew words that do not have an English equivalent
      That is why we see so many differing opinions on what scripture means
      Commentaries can be useful at times but still they are just opinions of how specific people perceive what they read and offer their opinions , and many times they are incorrect or have so many possibilities that they don't have clarity

  • @joethumm8186
    @joethumm8186 2 місяці тому

    My like of this video was number 665......Pay attention !!

  • @telefellavision
    @telefellavision 2 місяці тому +2

    Simply put,
    if you don't take the Holy Spirit you, by default, take the mark of the beast.

    • @enigmainwater2493
      @enigmainwater2493 2 місяці тому

      not really , there will be people that survive the Wrath of God that did not take the mark of the beast , they will repopulate the earth during the Millennium , they will be the people that Jesus and the Saints rule and reign over

    • @enigmainwater2493
      @enigmainwater2493 2 місяці тому

      not accurate

    • @telefellavision
      @telefellavision 2 місяці тому

      @@enigmainwater2493 glad I could be a part of agreeing to disagree. Iron sharpens iron

    • @enigmainwater2493
      @enigmainwater2493 2 місяці тому

      @@telefellavision Sure , who do you think the people that Jesus and the Saints rule over ?
      what scripture do you have ?

    • @telefellavision
      @telefellavision 2 місяці тому

      @@enigmainwater2493 I already left the scriptures before you ever responded

  • @FirefighterAliveJC
    @FirefighterAliveJC 2 місяці тому

    Ok but what about the fact you’re beheaded if you don’t take the mark? Nobody mentioned that

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  2 місяці тому

      This will help you sort that out 🔔❤️🔔ua-cam.com/video/2nlveEHVP6I/v-deo.htmlsi=tjQ6KMMU0eANCsRc

  • @cwschannel777
    @cwschannel777 2 місяці тому

    Revelation 19 vs 20 NKJV
    20. Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he DECIEVED those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

  • @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught
    @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught Місяць тому

    Sheol שאול the word for "hell" is also "Shaul" (Saul). 666 in english is F.O.X. The hebrew word for Fox is "Shual". Same sounding word as (Sha'al) To cover over up something.
    The name Sheol "Hell" and the name shaul (Saul/paul) is שאול
    Copy and paste it into google search you will find out .

    • @JerseyCity478
      @JerseyCity478 6 днів тому

      Sheol is the resting place for the dead, I.e., the grave.

    • @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught
      @Luke10.25-gospelJesustaught 6 днів тому

      @@JerseyCity478 Saul שאול is the same as שאול Sheol. Same spelling and everything. You had paradise called Abraham's bosom or Hell called Shaul's (Saul's) bosom. People didnt say Sheol until after 600AD when scribes started adding nikkud vowel sounds. But it was and still is Saul. (Paul is Saul in the greek).

  • @jerryjamify
    @jerryjamify 2 місяці тому

    666 is not the mark, that's the number of his name(authority) the mark is a sunsymbol in its different variations..

  • @Fisher4Souls
    @Fisher4Souls 2 місяці тому

    I feel like the Mark is the opposite of Deuteronomy 6:8 somehow

    • @kevin8360
      @kevin8360 2 місяці тому

      YES!!! You are 100% correct.
      What is on the hand and before the eyes in Deuteronomy? God's laws and what God has done! In a nutshell... The religion of God. The true religion. It's who God is, what He's done, and the rules He's given.
      So... the mark represents a religion! The number tells you which one!
      I had typed out a long reply giving insight into the first and second beast, but that's probably too much info. I'll keep it short to see if it peaks your interest.
      The first beast: The heads are the big false religions of the world. The head wounded by the sword, that everyone thought would die, but didn't die... Is Judaism. The sword is the truth or word of God... Jesus taught the word of God to the Jews. Judaism should have listened, ended, and become a dead religion, but it rejected him and kept on going as if there was no Messiah. That makes it a false religion. Belief in God, but not Jesus... is a false religion.
      The second beast: So many clues here, but I'll only cover the number... The number is actually the biggest and easiest clue.
      What is 666? It's simple, if you don't overthink it.
      It's one number, made up of three numbers. Three 6's, that make one 666.
      The three numbers are all equal to each other. 6 = 6 = 6.
      Each number is not the same as the others though. The first 6 isn't the second 6, etc. They're three distinct and separate 6's.
      What religion fits that?
      One, made up of three.
      Those three are all equal.
      Those three are also all distinct and separate.
      Everyone keeps predicting the "antichrist", but it's been here for just shy of 2,000 years. It started shortly after Jesus was here. Billions believe in it...

    • @williamcarr3976
      @williamcarr3976 2 місяці тому

      But in the scripture, it is written :
      Six hundred sixty and six
      Which isn’t the same as :
      Six and six and six

    • @kevin8360
      @kevin8360 2 місяці тому

      @@williamcarr3976 Exactly... 666 (as written) is the whole false god, made up of 3 individual but equal 6's.

  • @user-vk9ng6mm8g
    @user-vk9ng6mm8g 2 місяці тому +1

    thats a non holey spirit having view

  • @jessaduke2645
    @jessaduke2645 2 місяці тому +1

    Yes it absolutely has to do with who you worship. In Rev 15 it says that the overcomers overcame:
    1. The Beast
    2. It's Image
    3. The Number of It's Name
    This is a direct reference to the top 3 commandments and who we worship:
    1. Have no other God's
    2. Make no graven Images
    3. Do not Take (or count) His Name as Empty (without Power). In Hebrew, power is associated with numbers. For example, the power of an army was the number of the soldiers. But God's name is "Wonderful" (Pele - Beyond Counting)
    Jesus Christ is:
    1. God
    2. The Image of God
    3. In His Name is the incalculable Power of God
    The beast is any man, government or system that seeks to be a counterfeit of Jesus Christ, demanding our worship. In John's day, that was Nero.

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому +2

      The beast of Rev 13 and 2 Thess 2 is a particular manthat dies and returns to life being incarnate with apollyon , being given the authority from satan , as Jesus said it will be the worst time of the history of earth , most people do not understand because they just listen to some preacher that does not know or even care to know

    • @1754Me
      @1754Me 2 місяці тому

      @@Forseen-vm1qs You are reading those two chapters through a Dispensational gridwork. In Rev 13, the original 1st Century reader could figure out who the beast was if they used wisdom and understanding as "it is the number of a man" (i.e. Cesear Nero as @jessaduke2645 above said). The man of lawlessness is not specifically stated as being Nero. It could have been but it doesn't have to be. It could be an evil person towards the end of time who leads people away from King Jesus, but the King will destroy this enemy on the Last Day when He returns to earth. On that Day those who have entered His eternal kingdom now will inherit the kingdom and eternal life only found in the King. The King's enemies will be destroyed on that Last Day.

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому

      @@1754Me At the time Revelation was written 5 of the 7 Kings written of had fallen and the 6th was in power at that time , the beast will be the 7th King and will be killed and be raised back to life and be the 8th King , Nero was not the A C ,no matter how evil he was Nero did not do any of these things , and also the beast AC will be destroy by Jesus Himself at the 2nd coming when Jesus returns to be King on earth ,

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому

      @@1754Me a real forensic level of study , both Revelation and Pauls writings show clearly that the beast A C is a man that is killed and raises back to life and is then incarnate with the beast of the bottomless pit apollyon , he is then no longer pure human , and satan will be physically bound on earth after being thrown down by Arch Angel Micheal , these things have not yet happened

    • @Forseen-vm1qs
      @Forseen-vm1qs 2 місяці тому

      @@1754Me a real forensic level of study , both Revelation and Pauls writings show clearly that the beast A C is a man that is killed and raises back to life and is then incarnate with the beast of the bottomless pit apollyon , he is then no longer pure human , and satan will be physically bound on earth after being thrown down by Arch Angel Micheal , these things have not yet happened

  • @Rosiedelaroux
    @Rosiedelaroux 2 місяці тому

    It’s 666 - which is hilarious

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 2 місяці тому

    And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
    {Revelation 17:15}
    The seven headed beast of Revelation 17:
    The seven heads are symbolic of seven kingdoms, starting with the beast of Daniel chapter 7
    1st < Babylon
    2nd < Medo-Persia
    3rd < Greece
    4th < Pagan Rome
    5th < Papal Rome; the little horn
    ("that was" & "is not" & "yet is")
    6th < "one is"
    ^
    The woman that rides the beast is in captivity at the time of John's vision, AFTER receiving the deadly wound from the (atheist) beast from the bottomless pit [Rev 11:7]. This is the beast of THE TIME of John's vision IN THE WILDERNESS.
    (Meaning that John is in the wilderness in his vision and not physical on Patmos, and he sees a beast that would come up from out of this wilderness. Read Job 38:26.)
    The 7th < "is not yet come"
    At the time of John's vision *in the wilderness* this head of the beast was yet to come; this is *the beast from out of the earth* [Rev 13:11];
    (And he shall exercise all of the power of the first beast...) when this beast will speak like a dragon.
    This beast must continue a short time, as per the others before him.
    I believe by the testimony of Jesus, that we are now living in that "short time".
    The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
    {Revelation 17:8}
    :11...even he is the eighth, AND IS OF THE SEVEN, and ascends out of the bottomless pit and goes into perdition.
    --There are seven heads at the time of John's vision, five kings/heads/beast are fallen, so this eighth is of the seven kingdoms...."that was"...."and is not"...."yet is" AND received a deadly wound; AND his deadly wound was healed.
    This wound is the loss of her (the woman/church that rides the beast.) temporal sword (also her captivity), which is the earthly secular world kingdom.
    This is the image of the beast (that great city), who like Babylon of antiquity, who thinks to usurp church and state craft.
    The number eight is a metaphor for the resurrection. The eighth is resurrected from a former head of the seven; the 5th head that received a deadly wound.
    (When he shall go into perdition: this will be the final dispensation of this beast with seven heads, that is a metaphor for satan.)
    Jesus;
    (The resurrection; Jn 11:25) Ἰησοῦς/Iēsous = 888
    by counting the letter values of the Greek transliteration;
    I(10), E(8), S(200), O(70), U(400), S(200).
    In antiquity the mountain was not only a metaphor for a kingdom, but it was also symbolic of the head of a (river) dragon that was symbolic of a river that flows out from a mountain, after the spring thaw and overflowing its banks, spreading out in the form of the dragon's tail.
    The color is scarlet because it is symbolic of the blood of the saints of the Lord.
    A woman in prophecy is always a metaphor for a church, in this case (Jezebel) it is the fallen temple of God.
    The false prophet, a lamb (Christ like) with two horns, and/but will speak like a dragon (a wolf in sheep's clothing), will be the beast (from out of the earth ... the USA) that will make an image unto the first beast from out of the sea, who received a deadly wound and his deadly wound was healed.
    The two horns are a metaphor for two (equal) kingdoms in one, church and state craft.
    Medo-Persia also is expressed as having two horns [Dan 8:3], but one was higher, (Persia) and eventually usurps the other.
    This is the image of the first beast from out of the sea (Papal Rome). Once the wall of separation of church and state is lost, then will the second beast from out of the earth become the image of the first beast, who claims the authority of both church and state.
    Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen.

  • @Gazman67
    @Gazman67 Місяць тому

    Its 666 and ts the number of a man. It must be calculated in Greek and it is to be counted when the 10 kings are in power and the one who uproots 3 is the One

  • @brezlin-hamill
    @brezlin-hamill 2 місяці тому

    " He who leadeth into Captivity.......he must .....go into ... Captivity..."
    Certainly it wasn't lost in God that...people source Judah going into Captivity....to understand here .
    " The Israelites were out of Egypt 430 years when the Temple was built "
    430 + Years of successors to Solomon,
    Approx 666 .
    So using that . ( Someone gonna refute this ...?)
    The falling of 666 year.....
    Exoudus - Year 0 666 is time mark of Arab attack on Europe......[ Caliphate creates Slave economy ]
    333 BC.... Alexander begins conquer known World.
    1666 European Colonialism ( African Slaves.....& then Conscript Slaves...)
    God divided Heavenly Host 2/3 Angelic - 1/3 Satanic..........
    2666..........The Mark will happen.
    Now , Today , This Era , is when God's Wrath will fall upon E m p I r e s........
    JESUS will come ......( Create World Wide Elect - Saints )

  • @stephananthonyvanscoter1292
    @stephananthonyvanscoter1292 2 місяці тому

    The 6 6 6 are there Person and mit bis name.

  • @bonniehuff3901
    @bonniehuff3901 2 місяці тому

    People don’t believe what you tell them about Jesus is coming and the world

  • @JerseyCity478
    @JerseyCity478 6 днів тому

    Oh I stopped listening to The Bible Project a whirl ago.

  • @pretribtruth
    @pretribtruth 2 місяці тому +1

    Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
    The beast was before the time of Rome and is not during the time of Rome. Therefore Rome is disqualified as the beast.
    Peace,
    PTT

    • @enigmainwater2493
      @enigmainwater2493 2 місяці тому +1

      The verse is about apollyon that was in the days of Noah(was) , cast into the bottomless pit(is not ) and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition
      Rev 9 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

    • @Strongtower
      @Strongtower 2 місяці тому

      Are you pro pretrib rapture or against it? Kinda confused on your name.

    • @pretribtruth
      @pretribtruth 2 місяці тому

      @@enigmainwater2493
      "The verse is about apollyon that was in the days of Noah(was) , cast into the bottomless pit(is not ) and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition
      Rev 9 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon."
      Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
      Rev 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
      Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
      The trumpets timing sequence can be determined by the 7th trumpet.
      Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
      Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
      Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
      Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
      The 7th trumpet is when Jesus begins to reign for ever. The time of the dead, that they should be judged and the prophets, saints, and all that fear the Lord receive their rewards. This times Rev 9 to near the end of the age.
      Peace,
      PTT

    • @pretribtruth
      @pretribtruth 2 місяці тому

      @@Strongtower
      I speak the truth concerning the pretrib false doctrine.
      Peace,
      PTT

    • @pretribtruth
      @pretribtruth 2 місяці тому

      @@enigmainwater2493
      "The verse is about apollyon that was in the days of Noah(was) , cast into the bottomless pit(is not ) and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition
      Rev 9 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon."
      Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
      Rev 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
      Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
      The trumpets can be timing sequence can be determined by the 7th trumpet.
      Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
      Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
      Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
      Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
      The 7th trumpet is when Jesus begins to reign for ever. The time of the dead, that they should be judged and the prophets, saints, and all that fear the Lord receive their rewards. This times Rev 9 to near the end of the age.
      Peace,
      PTT

  • @januddin8068
    @januddin8068 2 місяці тому

    None of the early church fathers see these things as already fulfilled recently in Nero or anyone else. Read Ireneaus, read Hippolytus, read Miletus. These hipster know it alls go with anything on trend at the moment

    • @michaelseay9783
      @michaelseay9783 2 місяці тому

      The church has been corrupt for 2000 years. The Great Deception.

    • @Zelda4U
      @Zelda4U 2 місяці тому

      And yet the apostles were expecting Jesus to return before their death. Hmmm

    • @januddin8068
      @januddin8068 2 місяці тому

      @@Zelda4U we are all meant to expect that. Nothing strange or misguided about that

  • @JoseHernandez-rt3bt
    @JoseHernandez-rt3bt 2 місяці тому +1

    YOU ARE MISSING THE MARKS, FIRST YOU FAILED TO TELL THE REAL MARK. THE MARK OF GOD THAT IS "THE SABBATH" THE MARK OF ROME (THE BEAST) THAT'S SUNDAY WORSHIP. ROME IS THE NAME (666) IT DOESNOT MATTER WHO IS THE EMPEROR. THE IMAGE OF THE ROMAN GOVERNMENT IS THE ROMAN CHURCH. CONSTANTINE THE EMPEROR WAS THE ONE THAT MADE THE FUSIONOF THE CHURCH AND STATE

  • @rickmarvelli9238
    @rickmarvelli9238 2 місяці тому

    Read it. God seals the saved, Satan marks the damned. To receive God’s seal you must love him and his son. To love means to obey. Especially, his 10 commandments, especially number four, to remember to keep the Sabbath on the 7th day as our lord did. If you neglect this, you have already taken the mark. Only Jews who accept Jesus are correct with the book. And Paul invited the world to join. Read it.

    • @jpnoobieeiboonpj858
      @jpnoobieeiboonpj858 2 місяці тому

      So it sounds like you have it figured out- completely. Shall "safely ignore" you lol, kidding...ish
      Love does not equal obey.( Robots obey but do not love. Wind and water obeys the Lord but do not love. Trained animals obey but do not love.) Perfection is impossible so perfect obedience will not happen unless we are talking about Jesus Himself. Love means love. It's only when we trust Him that we can begin to love Him. TRUST Jesus Christ as our sufficient and only sin offering ( like the thief on the cross). That's the Gospel. (Loving Him, being grateful, obedience, glorification and worship all naturally flow out from this- though it remains imperfect because we are still human).
      That's having our name written in the book of Life.
      To have the mark of the beast, is to Not be covered by the blood of Christ

    • @rickmarvelli9238
      @rickmarvelli9238 2 місяці тому

      @@jpnoobieeiboonpj858 It is a contradiction to dismiss obedience, as it is God’s ultimate evidence of your faith, and declare love for his son as entirely sufficient. Love his son, but forgot the Father? Love his son, yet dismiss the Father’s commandments? Love his son and ignore doctrine as delivered by his prophets? If our God commands us proof of our love is to obey him, not to ignore him declaring how “tight” you are with his son. You seem like a snare waiting to spring on whoever steps near you focusing on your defense definitions of the meanings of words. Strong’s concordance defines the Hebrew word for love used in the Bible more traditionally translates to OBEY.

    • @Arvak777
      @Arvak777 Місяць тому +1

      I see where you're coming from but that still sounds like a works dependent salvation. Jesus destroyed the temple and it's systems but obviously not the law.
      Christians do keep the Sabbath when we believe. Hebrews 4:7 "today" is the Sabbath

  • @TommyStahr
    @TommyStahr Місяць тому

    It may have been Nero then, but, l think the Mark of the Beast is SIN. Exodus 13:16, Rev 13:16 & Matt 5:29. The devil makes "ALL receive the Mark". We're born in sin we must be born again! John 3. The Mark of God is the Holy Spirit. The 144,000 have the name of God on their foreheads (John 17). Spirit People! It's symbolic of SIN. What we fill our minds with and give our right hand to is our God. It's Jesus or the Beast. The world is the Beast. The Mark is symbolic, the Image is real. TV, movies, music, Facebook, UA-cam, Instagram, etc. Most all are lost to bigotry and idolatry today. 2Thess2:11 is here. Trump is lawless. The church is fallen. Revelation 18:4 is calling. The desolation, the wedding, the return. Rev 18-19. It's coming soon ❤❤❤

  • @lemnisgate8809
    @lemnisgate8809 2 місяці тому

    Rome is not the beast the Israelite became isolators long before Rome came on the scene.

    • @katiecugini979
      @katiecugini979 2 місяці тому

      Then how do you explain herod, whom Jesus is reported as having referred to him with contempt as “that fox.”Or the disciple Matthew, who was a corrupt tax collector and was considered a traitor to his people and loyal to Rome, as were many tax collectors, before he encountered Christ.

    • @katiecugini979
      @katiecugini979 2 місяці тому

      the other main possibility, that it is in fact an allusion to Jerusalem, thus highlighting the twin pressures experienced by John’s first readers from both imperial culture and an antipathetic Jewish community. Also, many of John's readers were not Jewish Christians but gentile Christians who had to make a choice in who they would show their allegiance. Many Christians tried to be loyal to both which sounds familiar to American Christians - our we loyal to the empire (America) or Christ?

    • @lemnisgate8809
      @lemnisgate8809 2 місяці тому

      @@katiecugini979 Herod was an Edomite yet he observed the Jewish religion and was king of the Jews.

    • @lemnisgate8809
      @lemnisgate8809 2 місяці тому +1

      @@katiecugini979 Jesus “came to his own and his own received him not” Jesus and his disciples were persecuted by the Jews their own brethren according to the flesh, from the time John the Baptist began to preach to the fall of Jerusalem who was trying to crush the gospel and stop its spread, it wasn’t Rome.

    • @katiecugini979
      @katiecugini979 2 місяці тому

      ​@@lemnisgate8809tell the first century Christian's who were being slaughtered by Rome that Rome wasnt a beast!