Chuck Schuldiner Marshall 8100 - Death Guitar Tone
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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I see "Chuck Schuldiner" I watch
I see 8100 marshall Valvestate i watch
I see Lamb upload, I watch
I see that parrot 🦜 I watch
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Damn this is SPOT ON tone
Well it is the same amp chuck used
@@nategin9009 I know but its not always spot on to the artist with different players
His tone was so unique. You did it justice Lamb.
No. Everyone was using these amps and this tone in the late 80s and early 90s
Nope. No one was using these amps in the late 80's as they weren't released up until 1991. And holy revisionist history, every one hated the valvestate line until to about I'd say 2010 or so when the word about Chuck and Prong in the early 90's and Meshuggah in the mid 90's finally got out on a larger scale on numerous message boards. And that's when the prices got up which was funnny as hell. Before that people wouldn't touch these things even if they were paid to do that 😂 @@corrupted_realm
Chuck was amazing but i wouldn't call the tone very unique
My friend, please believe me when I tell you that you are THE ONLY guitar channel whose videos I watch completely from beginning to end. I saw Chuck Shuldiner Amp and I saw Lambchopper and I went and got an iced coffee before I watched. I have been playing since 1988 and I absolutely LOVE your work. God bless you man. Truly one of a kind
Far too kind mate thank you
@@LambChopper678 hi, I would like to make a new pedalboard and include the MASTER EFFETCS EQ pedals, I would like to take the 3 available models plus the MegaPara v4 EQ. do you think 4 EQ pedals are overkill?
I wore a chuck shirt on stage last night. His sister gave it to me a few years ago. Shes a bartender in philly
what sister
@@godsinboxchucks
Shes not a bartender in philly nomore shes back in Florida
I hold these death songs and that tone in such a special place.. stands alone in it's space. Like nothing else.
One of the greatest guitar tones of all time. Also, the Marshall Valvestate created such an original tone , especially at the time. Those Solid State amps of that era carved such a cool niche out for itself. Chuck was an absolute master guitar player and song writer. His riffs are among the best ever in metal.
I love that amp. The contour knob should be a standard feature on other amps. For 90s scooped tones, the Valvestate 8100 reigns supreme.
The tone is unique but I always hear the reliability isn't there. Id be worried to gig with it, however they are cheap enough to just have a backup
@@iLLuzion1st The pots are cheap/ So, if you replace them with good quality pots, this amp would be much more reliable.
@@crazeyjoe interesting thanks 🙏🏻
Nope, the Ampeg vh and SS are the 90's death metal kings (in the solid state realm).
No eq, no front end OD, not even a noise gate?! I'm blown away. I think this will be the next amp I get.
I have one and never thought in use od2 , only use od1 channel and I thought i was close to the tone , I was so damn wrong 😭 I will try the od2 channel when I get my ass home , the dude just nailed the fucking tone 😵🙏
I think od1 is pretty anemic and lifeless. I prefer either the crunch mode on the clean channel with maxed gain for classic rock, or just od2 for high gain.
I love it that these amps were shot down at every turn, called crap since their inception, and now they are considered godly 😂😂😂
@@JohnWiku To be fair I wasn't playing music back when they came out. When I first heard of them it was in reference to Slaughter of the Soul ( one of the best metal tones IMO ), but everyone I encountered alluded to them being kinda like dimebag's Randalls in that they weren't worth getting because you'd have to buy so much extra stuff to make them actually sound good. Then I see this video and it turns out that they don't need anything. They have a near perfect metal tone with nothing more than your guitar and a cable. And from everything I've seen that is truly exceptional.
Hey Lambchopper you probably won’t see this but I just wanted to say, I only got into guitar playing about a year ago but you have been such an inspiration and big part of my short journey and you helped me get all of my favorite tones ever. Thank you!!!
Very welcome mate, if it’s fun you’re doing it right. All the best
Excellent demo! The tone brings me right back to High School, driving around in my ‘85 Toyota Camry listening to “Sound of Perseverance” and “Individual Thought Patterns”
I almost bought one back in the day without realizing it was Chuck’s go to amp! It’s one of most unique metal tones ever recorded!
i want one of these amps so badly man, glad to see you made a video with it!
Couple years ago a pawn shop bout an hour away listed a guitar for sale and in the pic was one sitting behind it. I asked on the post how much for the Marshall. Dude commented $250. I left right then and there to go get it!
@@brandonmartin08 lucky! i'll just have to keep my eyes peeled i guess.
Man I remember those. I was saving up and got the JCM800 that I had always wanted. I forget the year it was but I remember it was 80's. Then after I got it I had problems playing it where I lived at the time because there was no dialing those amps down low at that time. It was a night mare living in apts, so I ended up selling. All to later want it back now that we have ways to play at lower levels. Even though now I live out in the country and can blast my amps. But dude, I love that Dean you have there. Beautiful guitar man. Love those Jacksons too!
Man you are spot on with that tone. I've never heard anyone get this close on youtube.
I wish Marshall would reissue this amp, maybe in a more compact form, i would definitely get one. Your tones are spot on man.
I just recently cleaned up my VS100 and just love it all over again
I'm glad you can jive with it, my vs100 was truly one of the nastiest sounding amps ever, no amount of tweaking, pedals, speakers could save it 😂😂
ha! me too, dusted off my vs100 after sitting in the corner for years.
@JohnWiku was yours used or new? They can get nasty sounding when the preamp tube starts to go and I had to drench my pots in cleaner but now it sounds really good
I knew before I even clicked that Lambchopper was going to nail the tone exactly.
0:13 when the drums come in, impossible not to air drum lol
great tone and vid - nice that you played the riff for without judgement too, my favourite of theirs possibly!
Never clicked on a lamb chopper video so fast. I bought a Valvestate 8100 several months ago. Ended up using similar settings to you so I just have been on the right track.
This is an amp Marshall needs to re-release so bad. Never getting rid of mine. It’s a totally oddball amp. Marshall’s solid state amps peaked with the MOSFET lead 100 and the 8100.
Chuck! Yeah!!!!!! 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
I have the Death 8100 heads plus a single 412 from Dynamo festival. They have been modded with a rear input for the wireless unit that sat on top. They both sound different. Opened them up and had different 12AX7 tubes. The clipping is LED however. Album tone on these amps is achieved by running a very very slow chorus set to low blend in the loop. Just by having a BOSS pedal in there it changes due to the loading and buffering happening.
How’d you get them?
Damn bro I’ve been watching your covers since I was a kid and you still shredding big ups
Was looking for some tone presets for my Mk2 and I came across your channel, first 30 seconds hooked me in dude. Death, sick riffs, parrots. Rad.
Sounds incredible
I was at a Death show in 95 were I could see Chucks stack and he was using the newer VS100 (maybe a rentall to tour Europe idk). Two full stacks with the valvestate smaller cabs and I could see his eq it was bass and treble a little past half way and mid the same but before midway like 3 marks ont the amps dials. Dont remmember about the contour and the channel he was using
That’s some insane memory
oh man that tone is SPOT ON
Oh man. That "Spirit Crusher" chorus riff gave me goosebumps... Incredible tone, sounds exactly like original one.
You're an exceptional guitar player, man. All the riffs you cover, you NAIL !
Great demo / playing, man.... I sure wish Dean would've gifted you that guitar! 🤘
RIP Chuck...🖤🕯️
Nah it’s all good, I have loads of guitars and the guys at Dean are really cool. There’ll be many more 🤘🏻
Watching you chugging those riffs makes me happy, even without my own guitar at hand. Keep on rocking! Love your videos!
Chuck schuldiner videos get my instant attention, and that tone is perfection my dude.
Had this amp 20 years ago. Thanks for the nostalgia blast!
Total nostalgia with that intro...nearly 30 years since I heard that mid bump Marshall gain
Love that Dean.
Nice Dean guitars !!! That amp sounds killer !
Keep on rocking in the free world !!!
Hell yeah, about time did it proper with the actual 8100 aswell.
Great Tone, still special. Prong also used them if i remember correctly. I still have my 8200. Pots were terrible, they've been replaced twice so far. And i always wished all 4 modes would be on tap at the footswitch. But i had a lot of fun with it.
Spot on (so far), even better with a Dimarzio X2N pickup
The filth these amps generate is great! Demoed very well.
Although different from my tube amps, my 8100 and 8080 are definitely not gone leave my heard of amps.
I was never a Death or Chuck fan (wasn’t aware of them at the time) but I gigged this amp for 6 years playing pubs and clubs in the mid 90’s. Such a great amp. I used to use an old Zoom half rack multi fx that had a line outwith a cab sim. Straight into the PA and sounded great.
Valvestate is a God tier amp for me, hope to score one someday. Also love how you said "lunchtime" instead of noon I'm gonna have to start using that it's brilliant 😂
Always love your videos when I have time to watch them.
a thing of beauty
just like brother Chuck was
Had an 8100 for years. Added a mxr 6 band eq toneffects loop and it was amazing
Nice demo like always!
This Marshall sold between 200 & 300 eu in Europe!
I would absolutely love to see a demo of the Leprosy, Spiritual Healing, and Human era tone since people on UA-cam only ever cover his Valvestate tones. I know for those albums he didn’t use much, similar to the later ones, so they should be fairly easy to achieve. As far as each of the tones go, the following is all that I know…
Scream Bloody Gore:
- Randall RG
- Possibly a Boss DS1 (the tone on this album has a bit of that harsh clipping sound you were getting on your DS1 demo)
Leprosy:
- JCM 800
- Boss DS1
Spiritual Healing:
- Chuck: Boss DS1 into JCM 800
- James: Ibanez TS10 first gen (drive at 10 o’clock, tone at 11 o’clock, level at 2 o’clock) into JCM 800 (there is a video on his channel showing the exact pedal from the recording session with those settings)
Human:
- Boss DS1 into JCM 800 (on tour he used a Gallien Krueger)
- In the studio Scott Burns mixed the guitars with a parametric eq set to the following (he used these settings for nearly everything he mixed)…
freq 750Hz / Q 1 octave / -12dB
freq 4.1kHz / Q 0.4 / +3dB
Individual Thought Patterns, Symbolic, and Sound of Perseverance:
- Marshall Valvestate into a BBE Sonic Maximizer into a Digitech IPS 33 rack effects unit for chorus, harmonizer, delay etc.
- BBE Sonic Maximizer essentially bumps up the low end similar to a shelf filter and gives you a sharper top end. You could honestly do this with an MXR ten band
Great info mate 🤘🏻
My friend's dad has this amp and my earliest years of playing guitar were spent on hanging out with my friend playing this amp on the weekends. Never realized how metal this amp sounded either.
Literally my favorite amp I ever owned should have never sold it. Absolutely nasty tones so versatile. I did boost it with an SD1 and mxr 10 band eq this video has made me want to get this amo again
This video made me want one 😂
I’ve uploaded about 10 captures on the quad cortex. It captured it pretty well
Amazing mate, well done!!!
Hell yeah LambChopper!
Loved the playing, and most of all...really loved your birds!!
I had the combo versions, 80w and 100w. I used it with a Boss pedalboard. First the Boss ME6 and then the GT3.
Used to hide beer in the back of the combo 😁
Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹
They need to make a an 8100 pedal if they haven’t already. Great job as always man.
Master Effects Martyr will deliver what you’re asking for
My dream amp
Glad to see you still making vids!!!
I loved modding and repairing those valvestate vsXXX amps. I remember loving the stock sound . I nailed Prong, and even some Dimebag tunes (with my pickups) easily with that amp. and the low end "ommph" starts chugging at the right volumes. The contour knob gets the job done well.
Brilliant Lamb, absolutely spot on
That Spirit Crush riff was super clean. It is really hard to get that one sounding tight with as much gain as Chuck used
Spirit crusher!!! A legend forever in my heart ❤🩹🤘
Best video I’ve ever seen on this amp 🤘🏻
I bought my 8080 combo from a mate in 1995 when I got my first job. Still own it! They are the same exact board and components as the 8100 btw. With a jack added and an external cab you have a budget 8100! It actually died last year (blew the transformer and melted part of the board in a few other spots) and I was heartbroken. Bought a DSL20C to replace it but it's just not the same! I ended up finding another 8080 in terrible cosmetic condition and with a few issues cheap on marketplace so i'm getting my amp tech to repair/combine the 2 so I have that unique tone back in my life.. On the plus side I now have a spare celestion to put into the DSL so hopefully that will improve it :)
I don't know as many Death riffs as I should, this video inspired me to fix that.
OH YEAH NEW AMP, valvestates are so versatile that they are the main tone from oasis' first album all the way to death lol
But in the eyes of the beholder one cannot assume! :-) thanks for this video I will now listen to many death albums today!
Your ear is something else man. Great as always!
That guitar is a thing of beauty
I had one when they first came out. It had a 412 that was a little smaller than a 1960. It was my first half stack and I loved it
I had this head. And I sold it. I’ve regretted it. Loved the thrash I could get out of it. Never used pedals. Now that I have experience with pedals and EQs I wish I still had it
The volume pots on my 8100 are pretty bad too. I need to give it some attention. Surprised to see the reverb up, but it sounds way better here than on mine when it worked but it's been broken for a long time. Definitely a fun amp and it's great to see someone of your caliber enjoying it and making it sound the way it's supposed to.
Yes!!!! Such a good video man. Great job.
Great job with those tones,I loved it!!
I love his room.
It looks just like my living room. Only, I have more guitars & amps. 😁
I grew up with one of these in my house as my dads personal amp and he was never a big fan of death it wasnt music that got played in the house. its kinda weird i know but this is the amp i hear in my head when i think "marshall"
Damn that tone is just vicious.
I only got mine out of my uncles garage after 20 years last week! It still works!!! 😂
Excellent video and playing as usual!
Mate, try jumping the effects loop with a little patch cable see what you think
You are doing gods work my friend!
Contour thought - Well, we are playing Death Metal, something has to die today.
Cool video and very similar tone, never took Solid State seriously until I heard Chuck and Dimebag. They just had crunching tones so as you.
Brutal 🥶
Would love to see you play a Lead 100 Mosfet as well. Imo another awesome Marshall solid state amp
I saw the death to all band which is i think the other members paying tribute to chuck. Such a cool show
beautiful guitar and also great tone by the way
I still have an original 8100 head with cabinet from 1990. I will never ever sell it
Me too 🙅🙅🙅🍻
That’s funny you mentioned how the single notes really sing through. I had literally just finished the same thought that I loved how hefty it sounded but the high notes just fly around beautifully
The reverb is a small part but on some songs chuck played with a little bit of chorus not just for the lead tone but even in his rhythm sections that's that tiny parts you're missing on the later album riffs I believe it may have been an old boss chorus ensemble if I can remember
Really good recreation of the latter Death tone. I own the amp (had to search for it for 15 years in Italy as a Death fan). My only complaint is that it always sounds dark and scooped no matter how hard I try to push the mids and open up the top end (I love open, mid focused tones), but hey it's a 90s design. Still very inspiring for the peculiar gain structure. Lots of gain on tap.
Secret tip- connect a patch cable into the fx loop for a boost
This is the Prong Cleansing amp as well.
Great job ! Let the metal flow
🤘
That bird is a straight up metal icon!! 🦜
This is SO SICK. Try adding a bit of chorus for that extra "dimension" they have on the records. Plays nicely with the reverb
Chuck was a legend.
This is amazing !!
I still have mine. Bought it new in 1993 at guitar center in San Fran....... Haven't played it in years.
Spot on tone!!
that's Dean with evertune sound pretty good and nice sound brother
Great tone brotha. It sounds mean and aggressive. Too bad you’re sending the explorer back. Cheers mate🍺🍺🍺😎🎸
Love this Amp, cos it has character & sounds great all by itself. And I still own this Amp since I bought it second hand just after it came out & only changed the original Tube a few years ago. But at the time I knew a few Death songs, but didn't know Chuck used it till later, I bought it cos of Tommy Victor's from PRONG amazing tone on the 'Cleansing' album! 🔝🤘🏻
So plz could you while you have this Amp, try to match & show us how to get closest to that tone on that album mate?!🙏🏻🎸 That would be great & always enjoy your videos, keep it up! 🤘🏻🍻
Sick Video as always sir, you def got an ear for these things! have you head the album "comsuming impulse" by Pestilence? the tone on that album is amazing, and reminds me a lot of human era death. i cant quite get the tone down for that album but i have a feeling you could!