Honda Engine Rattle at cold Start "VVT Actuator Replacement"
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- The Honda we are working on in this video has had a rattling noise on start-up for about 2 seconds and then goes away. In this video, we will show you what caused the noise on start-up and how to fix the problem
On the car, it had a bad VVT actuator. we will show you how to replace the VVT actuator and the service bulletin Honda has put out on this problem.
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Honda has had so many issues with timing chain noise, VVT actuators, oil dilution and V-6 VCT oil burning issues from 2010-current. I just replaced the tensioner on my 2016 Accord due to the cold startup rattle. Thank god it was easy to get to. The few shops I called were at least $400. The dealer wanted to replace the whole timing set for $1200.
Lol that's not shit a Honda dealer in GA wanted 3,500 dollars to replace the whole timing system and they simply refused to do a simple VTC replacement, kept making excuses on why too. Pathetic.
Exelente video amigo una pregunta cuando lo instala el nuevo e escuchado q se sumergue en aceite por un rato o solo lo instalaste
You didn’t show anything
What😂😂😂 it's a 6 min video how did he not show anything. Ohhhhh its because u don't know how to work on cars or do timing ... ok
@@josephroberts2555I was thinking the same thing. For a short vid he gave enough info I would be fine doing it.
Theres another video someone put up that filmed the whole job, look for it
Waste my time because steps were skipped!
@Scott-xq2dm no he didnt waste time becuase I watched it in 6 mins instead of 23 mins and was able to do the job. How is a shorter video a waste of time. A waste would be watching him pull every little bolt and plastic clip and ever wrist turn. Just cuz you don't know which way to flick your wrist doesn't make this video a waste hahah you a waste hahaha
LOVE LOVE LOVE THE VICE IDEA, that is thinking smart!!!!
Is this a necessary fix? is it safe to drive without fixing it ?
I am driving without fix...just replaced ecm on my 13 crv repaires cost me 1800.
I asked Honda mech he said it should be OK but ll will get louder...
You should be fine, just make sure you have proper oil levels, check every 500 to 1000 miles
Very good how-to post, thank you. Why would you risk using a Dorman part on this job. It is a potential profit buster for you when it fails and you possibly lose the confidence of a good customer.
He’s working for a chain more than likely; and chains only use autozone and advanced auto and Napa parts to get it in and out as fast and cheap as possible lol
I've seen the oems fail as soon as ten thousand miles, do you have a better option?
Sadly no. More and more you find that pcms and other electronic parts are being 'discontinued' earlier and earlier by the manufacturers. @@cheesecurd100s
We rebuild the VTC actuator in-situ with new springs and seals. Spring-Start VTC
Do you do the Ford 3V camshaft phasers?@@spring-start
We’re is this shop located?
I have the same rattle on mine but come from behind the engine and only when I drive and press the gas pedal, what can be the problem? 1.6 i-dtec N16A2 Honda CRV, recently I had problem before this rattle with the egr valve and in that moment when this egr come in my dash and checked with special tool the error was p049b insufficient flow in egr. From that moment I had also this rattle and I solved the egr but that rattle still on there 😢. Can you help me out mate with some advices. Cheers!
The tensioner piston was almost at maximum length. As the chain stretches, the piston extends to maintain proper tension. Based on the length, it looks that chain should have alao been replaced.
How can I get the book
Just replace the VTC actuator locking pin spring to save money, time and risk of timing upset. "springstart VTC'
Was hoping to hear tge engine after repair
I get the noise even while driving when car is warm at low speed and light acceleration
That's the serpentine belt tensioner not the VTC. Replace it
How can you tell the difference between a VVT actuator rattle and timing chain rattle (cold start for about a second or less)?
You can't. You can check the chain stretch by checking the tensioner. Usually though it's the VVT
Isn't that a cam sprocket?
The question is what happens if it fails? What is actually creating the noise?
Inside the “actuator” or cam gear or phaser gear if it’s a Nissan Sentra or Altima with the QR25DE engine, is that inside the cam gear, there is a clock work mechanism inside that might have a four leaf clover shape to it which allows it to rotate left or right but with limited range so like half an inch rotation in either direction. This will either advance or retard the rotational position of the cam shaft that it’s bolted onto. This position is determined by the oil psi that is allowed to enter the cam gear or exit the cam gear. This cam gear is not stable until it has oil psi built up inside to help assist the gear. When the parts get worn out, the locking pin which holds the gear in a fixed position during a dry start condition becomes worn out and cannot secure the gear in a fix position normally known as advanced. The Nissan QR25DE engine is BAAAAAD when it comes to this. If not taken care of soon, it will fully destroy the engine. This is not just an import issue, the mustangs had a very bad year with this same issue as well.
@@toysforboysrc but this is a honda
@@ms.crystal8280 …. Yea but all variable cam gears work the same. They’re all assisted with oil pressure and have one locking pin that will eventually ware out. The only other style operation of a variable can gear would be controlled my an electric motor. With my best guess it will be a PWM motor just like a steering servo for an rc car bcs they have the ability to hold a position with precision and high torque. This is the same electric motor used on cars with an electric throttle body and laser sensor gas pedal. I believe they call that “drive by wire”.
… it can seem like a failing cam gear is just the kind of bad luck that happens to us out of pure unfairness 💁♂️ but as costly as it can be for a non mechanic diy person to have to pay a mechanic shop to replace a cam gear, it’s actually more of a positive thing than a bad thing. This is because today, most 4 cylinder vehicles have a separate cam gear plate that is easy to remove and the cam gear can be replaced without having to reform an entire timing chain kit installation. The real caution would be to not get taken advantage of by a shop that refuses to replace only the bad cam gear.
@@toysforboysrc my honda has over 250k....what I want to know is why I need to fix this? Makes noise on the start up but seems to be running fine.
Check out starter first Mine was a starter and it did the same thing
I don't get a clack, I get a thump when I first start our 2001 Accord V-6 3.0. It's starting to worry me, we had to put a new transmission in about 2 years ago.
Mounts
Turn on car why you look at engine you may seem whole engine move
Question: What is the risk of damage if not repaired? My 2015 Honda fit, earth dreams motor, has been doing this the entire time I've owned it, 20k miles to 100k miles. Years ago I read people saying ignore it cuz they're ran their cars forever with no problem. My clatter has gotten progressively worse the past few months. Curious how urgently I should address it, if at all.
Try an oil change with Penzoil Ultra.I did this tip on a 2011 Accord and noise went away after 2 weeks.
@bobblanchard9041
Did it lessen the noise with pennzoil ultra or it came back? Even after fixing it the noise comes back after from what I read online and on forums
My Honda been doing that for 3 years now
That looks unlocked
A lot of guys are just pulling the spring out and stretching it, then putting it back.
It looked like the new part was already in the locked position before it was installed... That would not be good.
Did mine and noise came back.
OEM VTC actuator? How soon did noise come back?
you have no idea how the timing chain tensioner work right???
I've been told the Dorman are not reliable when used on the Fords, so they are ok to use on these Hondas ?
Always use genuine OEM Honda everything on Hondas. I don't know why, but aftermarket anything never lasts on them. Hondas are weird and special.
@@joblessalex Gotta do this job this summer for our 2013 CRV but the problem is the honda made Actuator that is causing this rattle. Im probably gonna buy a different brand and risk it when I know the OEM honda part is defective. This should be a recall when plenty of people having the same issue.
@@noobfisherman1626 Just replace the bad spring. That's all you need to fix it. You really don't want to go aftermarket. It'll fail faster than the oem
@@joblessalex i just watch the spring replacement video and would prefer doing that LOL
Your life will likely be overall better if you never use anything Dorman.
This is not DIY friendly video. 😂
Cost to do this would be more than my cars worth. Anyone have a ball park cost. 1000?
Depends what you get done and where. I've seen from $500-$2,200
Didn’t explain every detail
How much does this job cost ya.
I'd say under $600