I have one too, still pretty good though, ok for gaming. It's my work laptop and it handles loads of internet tabs open and well as many word and excel files.
@@soulsbourne good explanation 👍 but I'll still prefer intel for basic task ^^ cause I've tried Rzyen 5 3500u laptop and Compare it with Intel i5 8250u laptop for basic task like browsing and office, fyi i applied same ram & ssd in both of them ^^ but Ryzen is not bad at all especially for price to perfomance
@@BruhBruh-mk5yg Bruh, no. They're using the i7 9750h which performs similarly with those gpus. In almost all cases, the gpu will be the bottleneck unless the game uses a lot of cores (like battlefield 5) or is poorly optimized (assassin's creed:origins). Any ryzen 4000 series wold not bottleneck those gpus.
@@Jinom_ I have no means to measure pixel response time and panelook did not have the panel listed in their database. Sorry, I dont know. It certainly is in the slower side as you can see from my ghosting test
Why when with a I-7 9750H on high settings u get higher frame rates??? My GF 65 with RTX 2060 does much better with frame rates than these brand new AMD's.. if it's a gaming labtop u kinda want high FPS lol
Brad Beyers most Programs will take advantages of the 2 extra cores. Games generally don’t. Assuming, this laptop is for school/developers/work on the go and not just for gaming. If you’re looking to buy a laptop at that price range just for gaming, when you can buy a more powerful desktop at that price... what are you doing with your life.
@@GoldenSpike300 What do i need a gaming desktop for when it'd be staying at home? & Yes i can actually play games at work. I get paid to sleep but part of the job is somebody has to be there. So I do have down time. & We do use notebooks at my work, so having my own is a plus also.
Damned be my brother. His laptop gonna smoke mine .. And at a lower price. I cannot but wait for his laptop to arrive, and see how much canI lower the noise/heat with ThrottleStop. Given that on my 9750H , for "browsing/tasking" I keep it a little bit under 15W. Thankyou for the review/comparison.
Wow I literally was looking at your reviews between these two yesterday trying to figure which one to go with. I went with the Helios, but either way it is a good buy.
Helios is a little bit more expensive .If you play fps games then both have the same quality tbh :V just 4-5fps diff but you barely notice that when both can run over 120fps
That was highly educational for me. Thank you. I'm interested in more direct comparisons such as this one regarding the performance of similar systems (with the CPU variations).
From what i know only the zephyrus laptops come like that with some memory soldered... the tuf line isnt the only line with 2 dimms... what about the strix and scar lines?
@@vali69 well they normally do have 2 dimms but haven't seen strix laptop's with ryzen CPUs. Personally I haven't seen strix AMD laptop's and I I'm be wrong about this.
Probably is not a bug? because Amd vega igpu is very powerful for an igpu and laptop want to save power or to be cooler when you don't play an AAA game. That's my opinion
Thanks for doing this video, I had heard good things about the Acer Helios 300 and heard that it runs it’s cooler than the Asus A15, which I heard was having some issues and approaching pretty high temps during gaming? Do you have any input on that? Thanks
in the model acer predator helios 300 of 2020 with I7 10750H and RTX 2060 vs the tuf A15 with R7 4800H and RTX 2060 who's better in gaming performance?
Hey OWNorDisown, what's your personal preference. Since im going to be sitting at home for a while i want to get into pc gaming. I'm leaning towards the Helios because in Belgium I can't seem to find a 16 GB TUF A15. And that ram is a must for me.
Hi, for gaming you will get just the same performance with the Helios and you do get a better display, albeit no freesync. RAM is an easy upgrade though, so personally I would get the 90wh battery version of the TUF A15 unless it is more expensive than the Helios. I used to live in Antwerpen , great place. Used to work in a town called Duffel
Hey! I just watched your video and found this DANG useful! However, If I were to say want to get more performance out of the CPU from the TUF A15 what are some suggestions?
Everyone, the ASUS A15 is better, it's is more cheaper Stringer Power efficient (90wh battery) More storage and ram upgrade and the keyboard and screen is better It also have the RTX 2069 for 1180 on Amazon while the Acer is 1200 Trust me you won't regret buying it, everyone has their good and bad reviews but this computer is good
Nice vid! I am currently deciding on buying one of these 2 lol this helped me a lot. I've been gaming on 60hz laptops for as long as i can remember, finally leveling up those hertz, but is it that bad the difference in screens??? For me it must be like night and day either one, but is it really worth it the extra $150?
@@juksanity4585 yeh, i just plan for some gaming (fps and some adventure titles) and office work (no content creation). Might go for the Asus then, thanks!
wouldve been a buy for me if it wasnt for the shitty screen : / I have been trying to wait for the legion 7 but I might just jump on the msi ge75 if a good review convinces me :D
grape boi 25ms response time compared to 3ms on acer Helios this matters the most in gaming but the least in anything else since generally in gaming u want the lowest ping and response time think of it as adding 22ms to your ping it wouldn’t kill off your gaming but it would lower it overall but don’t buy this laptop since it has major heating issues and I don’t think they’ll find a fix for it anytime soon and to make matters worse you can barely play around with the new amd 4000 chips cause they’re still brand new while acer went a next step in 2020 and did an automatic factory under volt for the i7-10th gen
@@Koltary no, amd chips are very well good in playing games even though they are so cheaper compared to intel, i tested and compared and its a false statement that u can 'barely play', , and in other tasks it falls far superior than these expensive intel chips, i would agree that the single core performance is better but not everyone will play crisis remastered, other thing the cooling system is fine, it has some problems, but u can always use Ryzen controller to limit your tdp if you are in a graphically bound gaming situation, other thing, the response time thing u said like adding 22 ping more, no brother it doesn't work like that, though yes its not ideal for competitive gaming, but its solid fine if u want to play non competitive games or u are not a professional e sports gamer, i would say the very disappointing thing in A 15 is the colour inaccuracy, its just feels bland in compared to other prime laptops like helios while other problems that people are exaggerating is different from reality
Deciding between the a15 and the 300 but have been leaning towards the a15 mostly because I always hear about how great the battery life is. Is the 15 worth getting over the 300 just for the battery life even tho the screen is bad? I will be using it to stream videos along with gaming.
Hey is this asus tuf model the final product, are they gonna improve the screen in mass production, coz other than display everything is perfect , this one thing weighs the whole laptop down, display is what u will look at eventually,
If the extra 2 cores on the TUF A15 will help you then thats the way to go, otherwise then go for the one you like the look of best. The TUF A15 will have longer battery life with the 90wh model. Its has freesync but the Helios has better colours for photo work
Love it! I had to give in to the TUF A15! Even with not so stellar single core performance due to lower boost clocks, in multicore it absolutely shreds the competition in the TDP range, while still being completely capable for gaming. Just got to repaste with some liquid metal and further optimize the thermal performance.
You think that it’s wise to repaste when it’s right out of the box? Also will that give it a difference when it’s new? I was thinking of ways to help it’s performance, I’m going to buy a cooling pad as well, but I wasn’t sure if repasting it and adding heat cushions inside the laptop when it’s so new will help it.
really hoping you will going to make a review about the comparison on the recent new launch laptop for Asus and MSI. I mean even they are in different price range but the value they offer can still be an attractive topic. Also, I hope there is some advises from you for buying a gaming laptop can play the FPS game like eft without significant thermal issue and a all round good laptop. For the i7 9gen like gu502 it is all about the thermal and downvolt issue to keep me away from getting one. Now the new ASUS laptop is also disappointing. It really tough as a noob like me to decide which one to go. Thank you for you video
@@siddhantkumar6513 no, on a plane a battery has to be under 100whr so manufacturers like msi can get away with a 99.9whr battery, so the 90whr battery in the tuf isnt the max
Cpu temps seem very good. Although from most reviews I seen and read they were complaining how the cpu stays over 95C. What do you think about the thermals ?
Any chance u could review the NEW acer nitro 2020 with the Rx560. Seems pretty neat for a cheap laptop. Or the Msi leopard gp65 vs the Msi raider. They seem like pretty much the same exact thing. They both have the gtx1660ti.
When are you going to do a review on the msi gs66? I am so anticipating your review on it especially of the model with the rtx 2060 cause I believe that is the best value gs66 model.
@@hassanfaraz3896 I think they will be better. It has a thicker chassis so probably bigger fan blades and at least this time the motherboard is the right way around so its easier to repaste if necessary.
@OWNorDisown Hey Steven, I was wondering if you did apply the overdrive profile for the monitor Asus gives you on the support page? I found that the ghosting changed dramatically for the better on my FY505DU after I applied it and I was wondering if this screen works the same way.
I play games, use big softwares like ansys, solidworks, catia, etc... and everyday use I was confused between asus TUF, acer nitro and acer Prediator. Any suggestions?
Hi, new subscriber, love your channel! Could you start including Bannerlord in your tests? It's a very CPU heavy game and I would like to see how the new Ryzen 7 and 9 does with this game.
1660ti is the best balance i think on a laptop..i just hope amd rollsout rx5600 and 5700 mobile asap to the market and kill the super..theres no need for above 1080p144 gaming on laptops,so imho either 5600m or 1660ti will be the ideal gpu for that price
RTX cards do gain quite a bit of performance with DLSS 2.0. If the game supports DLSS, a 2060 easily beats a 1660ti by more than 30%. Example: ua-cam.com/video/YWIKzRhYZm4/v-deo.html
Hi, can you please explain liquid metal on copper. i am confused. how can i tell if i am 100% coper or mixed? and what exactly happens if its naked copper? and how often do you need to re-apply liquid metal? i want to apply liquid metal. is the razer blade 2019 heatsink 100% naked copper?
I am really torn between these two laptops and I'm glad that this video is up. I'm a bit disappointed in the ASUS's cooling system though, since the CPU draws less power than the Intel one, it still runs hotter as well as the GPU. I'm not sure if running 85-90 C on the CPU and GPU affects the longevity of the laptop as a whole. I hope that Acer will put the ryzen 4800H in the Helios, then it will be an instant buy
Laptop CPUs are build for these kinds of temperatures, so it should not affect longevity of that much. My Apple Probook from 2003 still runs perfectly to this day despite the CPU being very hot (over 100 degrees)
They were about the same, but I have the small battery (48wh) in my A15. Both were about 5 hours. The 90wh battery in the other model of A15 should get at least 8 hours
It is getting a bad rap for sure. I didnt think it was bad for gaming personally. It's not that bright, about the same as the GL531GU . It colour gamut and sharpness was poor though, so I think I for photo work and video editing it's a poor choice . Perhaps even movie watching if you want the best clarity. How about the G15?
OWNorDisown Speaking about G15. I think it also have some similar issues like A15. a low watt RTX 2060 maxq, I don’t know if the screen is really that bad but definitely can be better in G15, a soldered memory and very limited hot pipe. All of these are refer to different review made by others. I hope it didn’t get things wrong but as a potential customer for all this waiting since Sep 2019. I really want a gaming laptop with a good value with a acceptable price. Thank you for your video and it is valuable.
@@aille1756 well, I will have a G15 in this week. I bought one to review so we will see what it's like. If it runs hot I will repaste it. Might even sell it on the channel.
OWNorDisown great, I am looking forward to your all around review on this laptop...man I got to say I really want to make my purchase this month but the g15 is just too controversial. Hope you can also provide some tips for us on purchasing a gaming laptop in 2020
Vidhya Dhara absolutely what I am think about. Also, i think this notebook is a bit under value for what it offer.. given that the my place is selling usd1,666 for 16gb 2060maxq 144hz
guys pls the asus tuf is a budget friendly gaming laptop and not a premium one like acer predator thats why the asus tuf have bad color accuracy and have ghosting a little bit in acer case you pay more for the screen and that cpu
The thing is the acer predator is being sold at budget prices (it goes on sale very often around 900-1k) which puts it at the same price as the tuf. Tuf a15 could have put in a better screen and charged 100 dollars more and they would have had a superior product to the acer. My guess is asus had to diffrentiate this product from the zephyrus g15 somehow.
The Helios will be faster for gaming and has the better panel. The TUF has a better CPU for any multithreaded workload but if your software uses Quicksync that can make a nice improvement. My big issue on the Helios is its fans. Mine definitely were making a noise that I don't normally hear and I have had a few comments to the same effect, one whose fans were clicking.
@@OWNORDISOWN oh ok thanks for answering! The A15 is probably the only good budget option that'll be available in my country but it's a shame that the display is not great :/ other reviewers straight up hated the display
Can you tell me what will be the performance difference of helios with i5 9300h gtx 1660ti and this amd ryzen 7 4800h gtx 1660ti as they will be around same budget.
I found it OK, as have many others. If you are a competitive gamer you may notice it more. I recommend reading the reviews say on Amazon or Best Buy as you will have a large pool to get data from.
Hello Raphael, I am inclined to recommend the Asus TUF A15 unless you think Intel Quicksync can be used to accelerate your software. The Ryzen CPU is very fast and energy efficient , you should see better battery life on the TUF A15 which may be useful if you are on campus.
Ok: I could not quite make a decision here. I wanted to know which one of core i7 9750H or the Ryzen 7 4800H is more power efficient for a given FPS in games at various standard settings. If both machines were at the same price which one would you choose?
It depends on the pricing and priorities. 9750h will be cheaper (give it a few months for supply to catch up given the virus situation) now that intel 10th gen and amd 4000 series has launched. There is no point getting an intel 10th gen chip over a 9th gen chip, the difference is very tiny for quite a big price difference. So the competition is between i7-9000 series versus amd 4th gen. The 9750 will be slightly cheaper come late summer/fall, the amd will be abit more expensive but offer more cores and better battery life. If you don't need 8 cores and want to save some money and mainly stay plugged in, then go 9750, but if you want more battery and do alot of multi-core work and money isn't a big factor then go AMD. If you need something NOW then its a no brainer, go with the AMD if its available in your country (some markets only get it in june) if not 9750 is not a bad choice.
Hey there ! The only downside is the display. OK for gaming I thought but everything else was a bit under par. How about wait and see what the 240 Hz 3ms display looks like on the G15. I bought one a bit ago, should be here soon.
OWNorDisown did you made a review? I am waiting for that. Which one would your recommend A15 AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/ RTX260 with 240Hz display or G14 AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/ 1660Ti with 120Hz screen for gaming, video and photo editing?
Depends what you want to do with your laptop. Intel Quicksync is pretty good at accelerating video editing . Or even a laptop with a low powered GPU like the MAG 15u I reviewed.
@@OWNORDISOWN I purchased a Acer aspire 7 a715-74g 71ws for $849 total. I7-9th gen 16gb of ram 512ssd with invidia 1050 graphics card with 3g of ram. But after looking at the helios and the new asus I am returning it. Better specs for just a little more. What do you think?
The new Intel ones will be available in about a week or so , wait and see what pricing they are at and also what effect it has on the current generation. Might be some deals around.
It looks like the new TUF (506) gaming laptops are not available in Europe yet. And I really need to buy it by the end of this month. If that doesn't happen I'll stick with Helios or maybe Dell Inspiron with 9750H. It would be a shame in terms of future-proof processor... My first choice was ASUS G14 but that 8 gigs of RAM soldered onto MB killed it for me. I need at least 32G(perfectly 64G) of RAM using Docker and virtualization.
5:20 seeing the helios cpu temp wouldve been nice. I heard the helios 300 runs pretty hot. Im torn on getting tuf in the 2060 version or getting a helios 300 9750h with 32 g ram 2070 card for $1399
As long as the temps are OK, yes, but I do find turbo mode on these AMD laptops does make it run hot and for the most part I don't think its worth it for the performance gained.
Interesting, the 9750H holds up pretty well against the 8 core, even in heavy multi-threaded games like BF5. Seems like productivity and gaming performance are really not comparable. The real game changer on the Ryzen side is the power efficiency, the 4800H is able to beat the i9 9750h despite using 15 watt lower TDP. Very impressive.
@@OWNORDISOWN most of the new games dont benefit from high core count cpu/s. A 12 threaded cpu is more than enought for any modern game. That being said, i think that the Asus is a no brainer. That 15w tdp difference is actually bigger. Intel qualifies their tdp at base frequency that absolutely never maintain. So... the 9750h is really more of a 75w tdp cpu. Amd measures their tdp at their average boost clock. So.. yeah, the difference in power efficiency is even higher
Multi-core support is the future so getting the 8 vs 6 should add more value down the line when you need to sell your laptop for the shiny new ones tomorrow.
In India asus tuf a15 is too expensive around 107000 for gtx 1660 ti , And on the other side we get rtx 2060 in helios 300 around 100000 Now what is your advise Which one we should buy for gaming Pls reply
I was really excited about the A15, bought the helios in november and not sorry I did despite the poorer performance. If I had the purchase to make now, the a15 is a STEAL with the 1660ti for $1000, but I got the helios for 900 and I don't think the difference is enough, given that on a 2-3 year upgrade cycle thats 1/6 - 1/4 the lifetime of the computer. I really do think the a15 with the bigger battery is as close to perfect as is out there in the budget category.
Would you like me to do a similar comparison TUF A15 vs TUF505DU?
definitely!
Definitely, that would be great. For this video, I was rooting for the Helios (though I may be a little biased).
Yes please, but definitely TUF A15 has the better value.
Yes please
Would you like to add AAA game in your benchmark like AC Odyssey?
Yesterday,I found in MSI website that there is a significant difference of 2% between rtx 2080 super and rtx 2080
Wow, no overclocking of any shape or form will ever be able to top that...
Same price or more expensive?
@@michaelgimenez4032 MSI GE 75 Raider with i9 10980hk and rtx 2080 super is listed at 2999$ in US
My i7 4 core: *sad wario noises
I have one too, still pretty good though, ok for gaming. It's my work laptop and it handles loads of internet tabs open and well as many word and excel files.
@@OWNORDISOWN agree with you, intel single core perfomance is still more powerfull for basic use and gaming ^^
@@soulsbourne good explanation 👍 but I'll still prefer intel for basic task ^^ cause I've tried Rzyen 5 3500u laptop and Compare it with Intel i5 8250u laptop for basic task like browsing and office, fyi i applied same ram & ssd in both of them ^^ but Ryzen is not bad at all especially for price to perfomance
Lol you think that's bad I have a mobile 7nth gen i5 4 core 4 thread
@@adrianuswibowo9988 well yeah that amd CPU sucked. They fixed them now and besides theirs a huge difference between that and 4000HS series
Just the title of this video gave me smile. Loving your videos bout' this A15. 🙂
Thanks !
yeah shame on nvidia lmao they should give ryzen 4000 series with the new 2070 and 2080 super at least
Most definitely!
shame on them for not using full gtx 1660ti and rtx 2060 on the asus zephyrus g15 even though that laptop is a 15 inch gaming laptop
Dont shame nvidia for what laptop makers are doing...
Vali N. i think its because if amd 4000 series and a rtx 2070 and 2080 super will be a huge bottleneck just like ryzen 3000 series with rtx 2060
@@BruhBruh-mk5yg Bruh, no. They're using the i7 9750h which performs similarly with those gpus. In almost all cases, the gpu will be the bottleneck unless the game uses a lot of cores (like battlefield 5) or is poorly optimized (assassin's creed:origins). Any ryzen 4000 series wold not bottleneck those gpus.
This right here is the comparison I was waiting for ...thanks man just hope they get listed soon in india
Thanks !
Bro screen is a letdown... Atleast has a 10 to 20ms resposne time..
Go for the g14 instead.
@@OWNORDISOWN is the sreeen a 10 to 20ms response?
@@Jinom_ I have no means to measure pixel response time and panelook did not have the panel listed in their database. Sorry, I dont know. It certainly is in the slower side as you can see from my ghosting test
Very awesome comparison! Clearly the A15 has a better value. I'll use the extra money I save to buy a gaming monitor hahah
That's a good idea
Yup the best bang for the buck rn.!
i'd still go for the extra 2 cores.
Why when with a I-7 9750H on high settings u get higher frame rates??? My GF 65 with RTX 2060 does much better with frame rates than these brand new AMD's.. if it's a gaming labtop u kinda want high FPS lol
Brad Beyers most Programs will take advantages of the 2 extra cores. Games generally don’t. Assuming, this laptop is for school/developers/work on the go and not just for gaming. If you’re looking to buy a laptop at that price range just for gaming, when you can buy a more powerful desktop at that price... what are you doing with your life.
@@bradbeyers9028 what the price of your MSI Gf65??
@@GoldenSpike300 What do i need a gaming desktop for when it'd be staying at home? & Yes i can actually play games at work. I get paid to sleep but part of the job is somebody has to be there. So I do have down time. & We do use notebooks at my work, so having my own is a plus also.
@@GoldenSpike300 Why dont these develpers and video editors just buy a desktop PC?.what are they doing with their lives?
Another great video, thanks steve!!!
Thanks Eric !
Damned be my brother. His laptop gonna smoke mine .. And at a lower price.
I cannot but wait for his laptop to arrive, and see how much canI lower the noise/heat with ThrottleStop. Given that on my 9750H , for "browsing/tasking" I keep it a little bit under 15W.
Thankyou for the review/comparison.
Thanks for watching mate !
Can you then compare the noise level between Helios and A15? with underwalt and throttlestop at helios
Wow I literally was looking at your reviews between these two yesterday trying to figure which one to go with. I went with the Helios, but either way it is a good buy.
That is a coincidence! I'm sure you will like the Helios 😀
How is it performing, and what games are you playing? I'm stuck between these two and can't decide. It's mostly to play warzone and R6: Siege.
Helios is a little bit more expensive .If you play fps games then both have the same quality tbh :V just 4-5fps diff but you barely notice that when both can run over 120fps
Excelente video, tienes un suscriptor mas.Eres el primero en hacer éste contenido, que es el que esperaba.
That was highly educational for me. Thank you. I'm interested in more direct comparisons such as this one regarding the performance of similar systems (with the CPU variations).
Is it fair to say that battery life for everyday tasks (excluding gaming) is much better on the 4800?
Very good topic for comparison, AMD CPU have come to the party in laptops
I'm so happy to see that the Asus tuf series is the only series from asus to use 2 dimms instead of one dimm and one soldered memory.
From what i know only the zephyrus laptops come like that with some memory soldered... the tuf line isnt the only line with 2 dimms... what about the strix and scar lines?
@@vali69 well they normally do have 2 dimms but haven't seen strix laptop's with ryzen CPUs. Personally I haven't seen strix AMD laptop's and I I'm be wrong about this.
Steven what about that strange bug where at low settings it switches to igpu?
Probably is not a bug? because Amd vega igpu is very powerful for an igpu and laptop want to save power or to be cooler when you don't play an AAA game. That's my opinion
As usual impressed by your review..!
Thanks, appreciate it !
Hey steven. I heard rtx 2060 laptop starting price will be 999$ such as hp omen 15 2020 (from the nvidia page) when do you think it will release???
Hey loved your video . I can 't believe you have so less subs. Plz make a 20 game showdown between these laptops
Thanks ! Unfortunately I don't have either of them but I did do a video showing 14 games on the A15
Great video. If you haven't yet, comparing the previous 3000 series Ryzen 7 processor to the Ryzen 7 4000 series processors would be great. Thank you,
nice video, seeing you replied all comments its great. you gain new subscriber
You deserve millions subscribers.....great work 👍
Thank you so much 😀 May be one day...like when I am 90 years old, LOL
Thanks for doing this video, I had heard good things about the Acer Helios 300 and heard that it runs it’s cooler than the Asus A15, which I heard was having some issues and approaching pretty high temps during gaming? Do you have any input on that? Thanks
Thank you so much for this video! I was searching for a gaming comparison between these cpus just yesterday :D
Been waiting for such a video
Thanks! Hope it was somewhat helpful 😀
in the model acer predator helios 300 of 2020 with I7 10750H and RTX 2060 vs the tuf A15 with R7 4800H and RTX 2060 who's better in gaming performance?
The helios 300 will be faster. i tested it against the RP 17 which has the fastest 4800H and 110w 2060: ua-cam.com/video/bm7beYM1_sM/v-deo.html
great video man i like your style. thumbs up. will the ASUS A15 be able to run VR headsets?
hi new subscriber if you upgraded the memory in the Helios 300 would choose 2666 or 3200mhz or does it really matter , thank you and great videos.
Great work👍 waiting for tuf A15
Thanks Vincent!
Hey OWNorDisown, what's your personal preference. Since im going to be sitting at home for a while i want to get into pc gaming. I'm leaning towards the Helios because in Belgium I can't seem to find a 16 GB TUF A15. And that ram is a must for me.
Hi, for gaming you will get just the same performance with the Helios and you do get a better display, albeit no freesync. RAM is an easy upgrade though, so personally I would get the 90wh battery version of the TUF A15 unless it is more expensive than the Helios. I used to live in Antwerpen , great place. Used to work in a town called Duffel
@@OWNORDISOWN Nice, I live in Bruges. If you have heard of Media Markt. They have some great prices.
Blue is cool, and good looking. Nice Video.
The 4800h performance equal to 2700x, so this is the second fastest cpu now for mobile
It's an awesome CPU. Better than the 35w HS version .
Great review. Can you please compare Asus A15 with GTX 2060 and another laptop with Intel hi end 10 gen CPU and 2060.
Yes please.
Hey! I just watched your video and found this DANG useful! However, If I were to say want to get more performance out of the CPU from the TUF A15 what are some suggestions?
Asus doesn't have heat issues, I own the tuf.
Any Helios 300 (2020) vs A15 vs Legion 5 comparison, their selling prices are close tho.
Or which one do you personally recommend?
Everyone, the ASUS A15 is better, it's is more cheaper
Stringer
Power efficient (90wh battery)
More storage and ram upgrade and the keyboard and screen is better
It also have the RTX 2069 for 1180 on Amazon while the Acer is 1200
Trust me you won't regret buying it, everyone has their good and bad reviews but this computer is good
Nice vid! I am currently deciding on buying one of these 2 lol this helped me a lot. I've been gaming on 60hz laptops for as long as i can remember, finally leveling up those hertz, but is it that bad the difference in screens??? For me it must be like night and day either one, but is it really worth it the extra $150?
if you really need to have a color accurate screen for content creation i would go for the helios otherwise tuf
@@juksanity4585 yeh, i just plan for some gaming (fps and some adventure titles) and office work (no content creation). Might go for the Asus then, thanks!
@@eduardogutierrezramirez4486 did u buy? I am in the same dilemma, Pls guide me dude.
@@pranjalnagar4772 me too lmao
wouldve been a buy for me if it wasnt for the shitty screen : / I have been trying to wait for the legion 7 but I might just jump on the msi ge75 if a good review convinces me :D
buy an external monitor?
Is the screen that shitty? It seems fine to me
@@grapeboi9256 yeah, using it for over 2 months now, its fine
grape boi 25ms response time compared to 3ms on acer Helios this matters the most in gaming but the least in anything else since generally in gaming u want the lowest ping and response time think of it as adding 22ms to your ping it wouldn’t kill off your gaming but it would lower it overall but don’t buy this laptop since it has major heating issues and I don’t think they’ll find a fix for it anytime soon and to make matters worse you can barely play around with the new amd 4000 chips cause they’re still brand new while acer went a next step in 2020 and did an automatic factory under volt for the i7-10th gen
@@Koltary no, amd chips are very well good in playing games even though they are so cheaper compared to intel, i tested and compared and its a false statement that u can 'barely play', , and in other tasks it falls far superior than these expensive intel chips, i would agree that the single core performance is better but not everyone will play crisis remastered, other thing the cooling system is fine, it has some problems, but u can always use Ryzen controller to limit your tdp if you are in a graphically bound gaming situation, other thing, the response time thing u said like adding 22 ping more, no brother it doesn't work like that, though yes its not ideal for competitive gaming, but its solid fine if u want to play non competitive games or u are not a professional e sports gamer, i would say the very disappointing thing in A 15 is the colour inaccuracy, its just feels bland in compared to other prime laptops like helios while other problems that people are exaggerating is different from reality
Deciding between the a15 and the 300 but have been leaning towards the a15 mostly because I always hear about how great the battery life is. Is the 15 worth getting over the 300 just for the battery life even tho the screen is bad? I will be using it to stream videos along with gaming.
Hey is this asus tuf model the final product, are they gonna improve the screen in mass production, coz other than display everything is perfect , this one thing weighs the whole laptop down, display is what u will look at eventually,
Yes this is the final one. The display is the same
@Vidhya Dhara what are the specs?
Nees help!! Which one is better between TUF A15 and Helios 300 i5-9th gen with rtx?
If the extra 2 cores on the TUF A15 will help you then thats the way to go, otherwise then go for the one you like the look of best. The TUF A15 will have longer battery life with the 90wh model. Its has freesync but the Helios has better colours for photo work
@@OWNORDISOWNok, thank you very much XD
In term of performance? Gaming
Love it! I had to give in to the TUF A15! Even with not so stellar single core performance due to lower boost clocks, in multicore it absolutely shreds the competition in the TDP range, while still being completely capable for gaming. Just got to repaste with some liquid metal and further optimize the thermal performance.
You think that it’s wise to repaste when it’s right out of the box? Also will that give it a difference when it’s new? I was thinking of ways to help it’s performance, I’m going to buy a cooling pad as well, but I wasn’t sure if repasting it and adding heat cushions inside the laptop when it’s so new will help it.
really hoping you will going to make a review about the comparison on the recent new launch laptop for Asus and MSI. I mean even they are in different price range but the value they offer can still be an attractive topic. Also, I hope there is some advises from you for buying a gaming laptop can play the FPS game like eft without significant thermal issue and a all round good laptop. For the i7 9gen like gu502 it is all about the thermal and downvolt issue to keep me away from getting one. Now the new ASUS laptop is also disappointing. It really tough as a noob like me to decide which one to go. Thank you for you video
Thanks Remy. I do plan on doing more and more comparisons as I do feel they help quite a lot. Thanks for watching !
Does the A17 have the same color gamut and high latency screens like the A15 or better ones?
I also realy want to know
So which is better helios or tuf? Overall best value.? Durability? Thanks
Isn't this the TUF gaming laptop that you can legally take it on a plane, with the max power wattage charge?
No that's Apple
99 watt hr battery
Yes. You can take in on plane. it has a 90 Whr battery. That is the max allowed in a plane
@@siddhantkumar6513 no, on a plane a battery has to be under 100whr so manufacturers like msi can get away with a 99.9whr battery, so the 90whr battery in the tuf isnt the max
Cpu temps seem very good. Although from most reviews I seen and read they were complaining how the cpu stays over 95C.
What do you think about the thermals ?
Seems like one of those vids that asus paid for to make it look better
Im planning to buy the a15, gaming and planning to learn to code. I also do some digital art. Is the a15 a good choice?
The screen is not the brightest nor have good colours..would a 2-1 with pen support not be better?
this video was lit, imma sub!
much needed comparison. Thanks
Thanks, glad it helped !
Any chance u could review the NEW acer nitro 2020 with the Rx560. Seems pretty neat for a cheap laptop. Or the Msi leopard gp65 vs the Msi raider. They seem like pretty much the same exact thing. They both have the gtx1660ti.
I certainly would like to look at the new Acer Nitro :)
When are you going to do a review on the msi gs66? I am so anticipating your review on it especially of the model with the rtx 2060 cause I believe that is the best value gs66 model.
As soon as I can get my hands on one Hassan , i am eagerly looking forward to testing it 😀
@@OWNORDISOWN do you think its thermals will be good?
@@hassanfaraz3896 I think they will be better. It has a thicker chassis so probably bigger fan blades and at least this time the motherboard is the right way around so its easier to repaste if necessary.
@@OWNORDISOWN thank you so much. Looking forward to it.
your voice is soo satisfying/soothing
Hi，Steve，I wanna know which app did u use to show the amd‘cpu temp，I wanna test it while Im gaming，thanks😊
Hi Yan, i did a video showing how to do it ua-cam.com/video/m3i6eJ414C4/v-deo.html
OWNorDisown Thanks！
Hi, what should I pick?
Helios 300 1660Ti or Zephyrus G14 1660TiMaxQ?
I am into both gaming and video/photo editing. :)
Go with ryzen for that type of work
@OWNorDisown Hey Steven, I was wondering if you did apply the overdrive profile for the monitor Asus gives you on the support page? I found that the ghosting changed dramatically for the better on my FY505DU after I applied it and I was wondering if this screen works the same way.
I'm afraid I don't have the laptop anymore , would be an interesting test
Just got my Helios 300 last week-Added two 1 TB SSD (nvme and hdd)
it runs perfectly. 😅😁👌
Super jealous right now since mine won't arrive anytime soon because of COVID 19
Malcolm West yea it took a lot of time for shipping right now
I play games, use big softwares like ansys, solidworks, catia, etc... and everyday use
I was confused between asus TUF, acer nitro and acer Prediator.
Any suggestions?
Hi, new subscriber, love your channel! Could you start including Bannerlord in your tests? It's a very CPU heavy game and I would like to see how the new Ryzen 7 and 9 does with this game.
Thanks, I'll check it out for the next Ryzen / intel 10th gen laptop I do. Thanks for the suggestion 👍
1660ti is the best balance i think on a laptop..i just hope amd rollsout rx5600 and 5700 mobile asap to the market and kill the super..theres no need for above 1080p144 gaming on laptops,so imho either 5600m or 1660ti will be the ideal gpu for that price
That would be awesome 👍
RTX cards do gain quite a bit of performance with DLSS 2.0. If the game supports DLSS, a 2060 easily beats a 1660ti by more than 30%.
Example: ua-cam.com/video/YWIKzRhYZm4/v-deo.html
Hey steve, how much more performance would asus tuf gain with a gtx 2060.
It's only about a 10% increase in gaming performance for an extra $200. Not really worth it to me.
@@Crazy350ZDriver but you will also get a bigger battery, bigger ssd and with 2060 nvidia DlSS2 will also come into play.
Hi, can you please explain liquid metal on copper. i am confused. how can i tell if i am 100% coper or mixed? and what exactly happens if its naked copper? and how often do you need to re-apply liquid metal? i want to apply liquid metal.
is the razer blade 2019 heatsink 100% naked copper?
Are the new asus tuf laptops using max q graphics? Trying to narrow down buying options. Any info would be appreciated
The 1660Ti is full 80w and as far as I know the 2060 is non max Q 90w part.
@@OWNORDISOWN thank you so much sir
I am really torn between these two laptops and I'm glad that this video is up. I'm a bit disappointed in the ASUS's cooling system though, since the CPU draws less power than the Intel one, it still runs hotter as well as the GPU. I'm not sure if running 85-90 C on the CPU and GPU affects the longevity of the laptop as a whole. I hope that Acer will put the ryzen 4800H in the Helios, then it will be an instant buy
same thoughts, also going for tuf and buying a separate monitor isn't really my thing so yeaa
Laptop CPUs are build for these kinds of temperatures, so it should not affect longevity of that much. My Apple Probook from 2003 still runs perfectly to this day despite the CPU being very hot (over 100 degrees)
thank you for this! very good quality video!
Thanks, I appreciate you saying that 😀
@@OWNORDISOWN You are welcome! truth has to be spoken (always) ;P
I wonder which is better for benchmark and gaming which one is better for both
how many more hours of use do you get asus tuf a15 vs acer 300 for the battery ? in gaming and web browsing
They were about the same, but I have the small battery (48wh) in my A15. Both were about 5 hours. The 90wh battery in the other model of A15 should get at least 8 hours
How's the display of asus?? Is the difference very noticeable from the Helios?
I found it fine for gaming
I've been looking everywhere for this kind of review between both laptops! I want to get the A15 but I'm hesitating because of the display.. :(
It is getting a bad rap for sure. I didnt think it was bad for gaming personally. It's not that bright, about the same as the GL531GU . It colour gamut and sharpness was poor though, so I think I for photo work and video editing it's a poor choice . Perhaps even movie watching if you want the best clarity.
How about the G15?
OWNorDisown Speaking about G15. I think it also have some similar issues like A15. a low watt RTX 2060 maxq, I don’t know if the screen is really that bad but definitely can be better in G15, a soldered memory and very limited hot pipe. All of these are refer to different review made by others. I hope it didn’t get things wrong but as a potential customer for all this waiting since Sep 2019. I really want a gaming laptop with a good value with a acceptable price. Thank you for your video and it is valuable.
@@aille1756 well, I will have a G15 in this week. I bought one to review so we will see what it's like. If it runs hot I will repaste it. Might even sell it on the channel.
OWNorDisown great, I am looking forward to your all around review on this laptop...man I got to say I really want to make my purchase this month but the g15 is just too controversial. Hope you can also provide some tips for us on purchasing a gaming laptop in 2020
Vidhya Dhara absolutely what I am think about. Also, i think this notebook is a bit under value for what it offer.. given that the my place is selling usd1,666 for 16gb 2060maxq 144hz
Thanks man, nice comparison.
Thanks mate !
Awesome video!!!
guys pls the asus tuf is a budget friendly gaming laptop and not a premium one like acer predator thats why the asus tuf have bad color accuracy and have ghosting a little bit in acer case you pay more for the screen and that cpu
The thing is the acer predator is being sold at budget prices (it goes on sale very often around 900-1k) which puts it at the same price as the tuf.
Tuf a15 could have put in a better screen and charged 100 dollars more and they would have had a superior product to the acer.
My guess is asus had to diffrentiate this product from the zephyrus g15 somehow.
I still dont know wich one should i pick,
Acer helios 300 i7 1075h rtx 2060
Asus tuf A15 ryzen 7 rtx 2060
The Helios will be faster for gaming and has the better panel. The TUF has a better CPU for any multithreaded workload but if your software uses Quicksync that can make a nice improvement.
My big issue on the Helios is its fans. Mine definitely were making a noise that I don't normally hear and I have had a few comments to the same effect, one whose fans were clicking.
To me, because of the backlight bleed(?) sometimes content on the tuf A15 looks better? How come the A15 have virtually 0 backlight bleed? Is it a VA?
I thinks its IPS, juts can't call it IPS because its not an LG panel
@@OWNORDISOWN oh ok thanks for answering! The A15 is probably the only good budget option that'll be available in my country but it's a shame that the display is not great :/ other reviewers straight up hated the display
Can you tell me what will be the performance difference of helios with i5 9300h gtx 1660ti and this amd ryzen 7 4800h gtx 1660ti as they will be around same budget.
The 4 core CPU will, in theory be 2/3rds the speed of the 9750h in multithreaded tasks. In gaming there will be negligible difference.
@@OWNORDISOWN 9750h or Ryzen 7 4800h, i am asking i5 vs ryzen 7
How can be better the screen of A15... Anyway to increase response time and prevent it from ghosting....
Have you tried to overclock the a15? I want to see the performance ang temp.
No I didn't, sorry. My time line was really tight. I
Slow response time in asus tuf a15 will effect gaming experience or not ?
I found it OK, as have many others. If you are a competitive gamer you may notice it more. I recommend reading the reviews say on Amazon or Best Buy as you will have a large pool to get data from.
which one do you is the best for civ eng student? im planning on getting one os this soon? can you please help me?
Hello Raphael, I am inclined to recommend the Asus TUF A15 unless you think Intel Quicksync can be used to accelerate your software. The Ryzen CPU is very fast and energy efficient , you should see better battery life on the TUF A15 which may be useful if you are on campus.
Which one will you recommend for college work+gaming ?
I think if you get the 90w battery TUF A15 then that will last you all day at college. That's the one I would get.
Ok: I could not quite make a decision here. I wanted to know which one of core i7 9750H or the Ryzen 7 4800H is more power efficient for a given FPS in games at various standard settings. If both machines were at the same price which one would you choose?
Of course that 4800h
wait for the intel 10 gen gaming laptop
BruhBruh 149 bruh how bout answering the question
Not everyone can afford intel’s overpriced cores
Anthony Manuel Ocampo dude what i was saying is just wait until intel 10 gen and wait for the result
It depends on the pricing and priorities.
9750h will be cheaper (give it a few months for supply to catch up given the virus situation) now that intel 10th gen and amd 4000 series has launched.
There is no point getting an intel 10th gen chip over a 9th gen chip, the difference is very tiny for quite a big price difference.
So the competition is between i7-9000 series versus amd 4th gen. The 9750 will be slightly cheaper come late summer/fall, the amd will be abit more expensive but offer more cores and better battery life. If you don't need 8 cores and want to save some money and mainly stay plugged in, then go 9750, but if you want more battery and do alot of multi-core work and money isn't a big factor then go AMD.
If you need something NOW then its a no brainer, go with the AMD if its available in your country (some markets only get it in june) if not 9750 is not a bad choice.
Acer predator helios 300 2020 or asus tuf A17???
Which latop should i purchase
Asus or Helious 300?
If u r in my place which laptop would u purchase?
depend on your activities. like me, i used my helios 300 more on video editting than gaming which has better color gamut than asus tuf.
which laptop is better for softwares like autocad? the helios 300 or the a15??
Will the extra 2 cores help you? If so the A15. I don't think the worse colour gamut will effect you.
Hey Steven!! Should I go forward with A15??
Hey there ! The only downside is the display. OK for gaming I thought but everything else was a bit under par. How about wait and see what the 240 Hz 3ms display looks like on the G15. I bought one a bit ago, should be here soon.
OWNorDisown Hey do you got the G15 unit for review?
@@ShabihAhmed I bought it from Hidevolution
OWNorDisown did you made a review? I am waiting for that. Which one would your recommend A15 AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/ RTX260 with 240Hz display or G14 AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/ 1660Ti with 120Hz screen for gaming, video and photo editing?
Thanku soo much sir for this video😊
Thanks for watching!
What is the best laptop for non gamers? At least 16gb and 512gb ssd intel i7 9th gen or a comparable amd chip. Thanks
Depends what you want to do with your laptop. Intel Quicksync is pretty good at accelerating video editing . Or even a laptop with a low powered GPU like the MAG 15u I reviewed.
@@OWNORDISOWN I purchased a Acer aspire 7 a715-74g 71ws for $849 total. I7-9th gen 16gb of ram 512ssd with invidia 1050 graphics card with 3g of ram. But after looking at the helios and the new asus I am returning it. Better specs for just a little more. What do you think?
I want buy a new laptop so are you see wait for new lap with amd or buy now?
The new Intel ones will be available in about a week or so , wait and see what pricing they are at and also what effect it has on the current generation. Might be some deals around.
It looks like the new TUF (506) gaming laptops are not available in Europe yet. And I really need to buy it by the end of this month. If that doesn't happen I'll stick with Helios or maybe Dell Inspiron with 9750H. It would be a shame in terms of future-proof processor...
My first choice was ASUS G14 but that 8 gigs of RAM soldered onto MB killed it for me. I need at least 32G(perfectly 64G) of RAM using Docker and virtualization.
Yes, and 64GB is OK on the TUF A15. Hopefully it arrives in time for you
5:20 seeing the helios cpu temp wouldve been nice. I heard the helios 300 runs pretty hot. Im torn on getting tuf in the 2060 version or getting a helios 300 9750h with 32 g ram 2070 card for $1399
Andrew Cramer the cpu temp is shown, bottom panel , 84 degrees...
@@OWNORDISOWN ahh i see. 5 degrees doesnt seem too bad but thay power draw, yikes
I found a $1000 asus GU501GM, is it a good deal or not? To compare The acer helios 300 price in our country is $1800
I think that is a fair price. The GTX 1060 is still a decent GPU
I see others Say that the Thermals on the a15 is not good? I want it but idk im confused whether the helios or a15
tested 14 games on the TUF A15 here: ua-cam.com/video/HFO8cqSXSLQ/v-deo.html
I show thermals in real time.
Are the GPUs configured for same amount of power?
Yes, they are both 80w CPUs. Even in Turbo mode the Helios 300 will max out at 85w
Is it good to always turn on the turbo mode??
As long as the temps are OK, yes, but I do find turbo mode on these AMD laptops does make it run hot and for the most part I don't think its worth it for the performance gained.
OWNorDisown oh so its better played with it turned off?
I cover performance and temp differences in my review: ua-cam.com/video/ELn--iOQ6ZQ/v-deo.html
OWNorDisown i watched it just now Oh my god thank you sooo much it really helpss ❤️👍
Great, glad you found it useful :)
Interesting, the 9750H holds up pretty well against the 8 core, even in heavy multi-threaded games like BF5. Seems like productivity and gaming performance are really not comparable. The real game changer on the Ryzen side is the power efficiency, the 4800H is able to beat the i9 9750h despite using 15 watt lower TDP. Very impressive.
I fully agree , it is very efficient :)
@@OWNORDISOWN most of the new games dont benefit from high core count cpu/s. A 12 threaded cpu is more than enought for any modern game.
That being said, i think that the Asus is a no brainer. That 15w tdp difference is actually bigger. Intel qualifies their tdp at base frequency that absolutely never maintain. So... the 9750h is really more of a 75w tdp cpu. Amd measures their tdp at their average boost clock. So.. yeah, the difference in power efficiency is even higher
could you try disabling SMT on TUF A15? see if that helps ingame performance
I'm afraid I dont have it any more. I can try that on another AMD unit I have just bought
@@OWNORDISOWN thank you very much...looking forward for your next video
@@herwinbayuadhi thanks!
Multi-core support is the future so getting the 8 vs 6 should add more value down the line when you need to sell your laptop for the shiny new ones tomorrow.
Yes, very true!
If I buy A15, can I change the screen to much better screen for laptop or the screen cant be change? sorry I'm new at this
As far as I know, it is very hard because of the thin bezels
In India asus tuf a15 is too expensive around 107000 for gtx 1660 ti ,
And on the other side we get rtx 2060 in helios 300 around 100000
Now what is your advise
Which one we should buy for gaming
Pls reply
I was really excited about the A15, bought the helios in november and not sorry I did despite the poorer performance. If I had the purchase to make now, the a15 is a STEAL with the 1660ti for $1000, but I got the helios for 900 and I don't think the difference is enough, given that on a 2-3 year upgrade cycle thats 1/6 - 1/4 the lifetime of the computer. I really do think the a15 with the bigger battery is as close to perfect as is out there in the budget category.
Hello, can you review the MSi GL75 - i7 9750H - GTX1660ti please ???