1985 Dolphins Patriots AFC Championship Second Half
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- In the regular season; Dan Marino beat the 1985 previously undefeated SB winning Bears to knock them to 15-1. Marino beat the Defense many believe is "Greatest of All Time".
So all Marino and Dolphins have to do is get past the Patriots for an epic rematch. HOF QB vs HOF Defense... What would happen if the Dolphins won here? Legacies would certainly change....
The '85 Bears might be overrated? We'll never know. We DO know the Buddy Ryan Design is fatal in todays NFL sending 6 or more allows easy catch and run; man to man with no zone help can only be used as a surprise. Many guys think the Buddy Ryan design is genius and everybody is stupid ever since.
I am fascinated by the 85 Pats. I know they got destroyed by the Bears in SB but any team would’ve gotten destroyed by the Bears that year. But what they did was truly incredible. Winning 3 games on the road to get to SB. This was an era when the top seeds never lost. Now it happens a lot but back in the 80s it was unheard of.
Team owner Billy Sullivan was on the verge of bankruptcy, and recently diagnosed with cancer, when the Patriots finally got somewhere. Sullivan had his faults, but it took a lot of guts to keep the Patriots in Massachusetts.
1980 Oakland Raiders...the first Wild Card team ever to win it all
@@jeremythompson9122 They didn't win three road games...wild card game was a home win against Snake Stabler and Houston.
@@jeremythompson9122 The 1969 K.C.Chiefs,they were the first wild card to win it all.
This is the night the Fish got squished and was never heard of again.
Saw this when I was 15 and hard to believe it was 32 years ago. Every playoff season I watch the Pats vs Raiders and this one, each and every year the last few years. great memories. RIP to the best broadcast team ever and great childhood memories. Loved the sound of the crowd, the horns, the mud; they don't play like this anymore.
It's those million dollar contracts that make the NFL football players today so soft!!!
@Kevin Kelly
No, I like the AFC broadcast teams of the 80s better. I like Summerall, but Madden drives me crazy...
The Patriots secondary was awesome in this game. Lippett and Clayborn especially had Marino's wide receivers on lockdown and safety Fred Marion provided key over-the-top protection against the deep ball.
At 5'9 and just 175 pounds, the Marks brothers were often overpowered by larger and more physical playoff defenses.
@@Yeomannn Between the 2, they also had many tremendous performances in this period. Of couse Marino's freakish arm and quiick release was key to the trio's success when they were all clicking.
I couldn't believe it when the Patriots beat the Raiders in LA and then the Dolphins in Miami in the AFC Championship that year. Unbelievable
The Jets were no slouch either. They had to beat them in New York.
Upsetting the cocky Raiders was almost as sweet considering the Pats had gotten robbed of a trip to the Super Bowl 9 years earlier on a suspiciously awful pass interference call in Oakland late in the 4th quarter.
@@jeremythompson9122 Raymond Berry coached a Strip the ball game plan.
The Pats beat the Jets, Raiders and Dolphins because of turnovers.
Coronavirus challenge - take a drink at every James Garner Mazda ad during this game.
This is awesome. I was 9.y/o watching this..1986 was a great Boston sports year. Thanks Walt.
Same here. 9 years old, turning 10 later that year. Got to see the Sox in the series, and the Celtics hoist banner 16!
Something you'll notice about Tony Eason is that the Pats use him on a ton of rollout passes. He was a very accurate QB and a great scrambler. Threw a great ball on the run. Eason has the highest playoff passer rating of all time throwing 7 TDs to 0 INTs. There's one fatal flaw with this. He also has a 17.2 sack% in the playoffs! Instead of throwing the ball he took a ton of sacks. This protected the football but also cost the Patriots several key drives. This was most apparent in the Super Bowl as Eason shrunk in the face of the Bears vaunted pass rush. Dan Marino, on the other hand, is the greatest sack avoider of all time, and got the ball out of his hands before the Bears could even touch him.
And they both made it to just one Superbowl.
I was a cozy 1years old during. Being a lifelong Bears fan I know the legends and the lore. The reason I found this video is simple...I could never understand how that bum looking Patriots team I saw in SB XX EVER beat Miami! Thank you for posting.
They definitely weren't bums. The gameplan stunk against the bears. Eason was scared against Chicago. Should've started grogan if we were gonna throw the ball like Miami did against Chicago. We had the receivers. Defensively we dropped 3 or 4 int for tds. Game was a nightmare
@TAX COW FARTS This was a damn good team, and fun to watch. Ray Berry had the perfect game plan: ram the ball down their throats. Tony Eason threw only 10 or 15 times. They just ran, ran, ran on that muddy infield.
Turnovers. The Pats forced like 17 turnovers in 3 playoff games
that's cause they played each other so many times the Pat's knew them well!
Because the Dolphins were NOT that good.
RIP Merlin Olsen - Loved him in Little House on the Prairie. I remember the episode where his on-screen son said "My Dad doesn't know a thing about football"! 😂
The 85 Pat's will always be one of the greatest playoff teams ever,. Ring or no ring, respect to 85 Pat's
I just watched there last 2 playoff 1985 games and Oakland should have beat them and the Fins and Marino were the most overrated of all time. So no buddy.
@@bicgohill8756
I totally agree with you that Marino was overrated. But the Patriots played the Raiders good enough to win.
@@whataboutrob442 If they played them good enough to win then they would've won. Bills lost four straight.
The Dolphins of the mid eighties had no running game or defense. And that's why they didn't win a super bowl with Dan Marino as their quarterback.
Sadly the killer 🐝 dynasty died out with this game😢.
@@randalldenison4628 yeah, they did an okay job against the pass, but they just had little effect at stopping a quality rushing game.
Ever think it was because of Marino that they didn't win...
@@whataboutrob442 What? If you said, "Marino came up short in a couple of big games" that's valid. They lost his final two AFC title games both at home with him not playing well in either. But the idea that the run game and defense being mediocre to awful were less of a reason for their slide into irrelevance from 1986 to 1989 than DAN MARINO? Cmon man.
Story of Aaron Rodgers’ career
The red shirt Patriots look a thousand times better
BRING BACK PAT PATRIOT!!!
Na
Hell na
Now that the Pats dynasty is over and they've become a rudderless ship , they might as well retire flying Elvis since that logo symbolized 30 yeas of unmatched success. I know this sounds harsh, but sometimes the truth hurts.
The commercials tho! Ads to the nostalgia even more.
I liked those dolphin teams from 79-85.
Right? A new pickup truck for $6,500??? Lol
James garner and his daughter were on one
@@coreylevine8095 My name is Corey also!
@@CoreyT127 your name is Jill a girl name oh well i love to watch old games like this and the commercial back then remember watching this game being 49 years old now
People forget, Marino was able to beat the Bears in the regular season. He was the only one people considered the way to beat the bears. He wins this game and Marino's legacy is different forever.
Suck Ass Defense.
No one forgets, dumb-dumb. And learn some English.
55:39 "Mosi Tatupu, the 30-year veteran from Southern California..."
Apparently, Mosi was a rookie in 1955. 😱
Selanne93 that’s a long career
Haha. Thats some longevity.
Damn I thought George blanda was old lol
Lol he probably meant his age 30, I loved Dick Enberg RIP, but throughout his announcing career, he had a few brain farts here and there😂😂😂
Mrd9960
Who wouldn’t dick head.
I think this was the first time the Pats had ever won in Miami since 1966 when the Dolphins first became a franchise
Of course Marino was leading the choke festival.
New England was 0-18 in Miami (including playoffs) until this game
@@whataboutrob442 Did Marino drop the TD pass at the end of the first half that would have cut the lead to 17-14? Did he fumble on the first play leading to three points? Did he fumble the second half kickoff leading to seven points? Did he fumble during the comeback in the fourth quarter leading to another seven points?
@@ujohnlynch2341 Yes he did. It's all Marino's fault. Every game he ever lost. All his fault.
as a long time dolphin fan, looking back on this game is a real eye opener to what was to come for Miami. Lots of dark days ahead. Miami had a real lack of talent around this time. Look back at the previous superbowl, 49ers defensive backfield was ronnie Lott's, carlton Williamson, eric wright, and dwight's hicks. All four went to the pro bowl. Miami had the blackwood brothers and don McNeil. Besides a few very good players, the dolphins lacked talent. My humble opinion
The Dolphins was thinking they would Meet the Bears in the SB and over looked the Pats
That 1985 Patriots team is arguably the most talented Patriots team ever assembled , consider some of players on defense Raymond Clayborne, Roland James , Ronnie Lippet ,Fred Marion ,Andre Tippet , Julius Adams , Steve Nelson , James Blackmon , Lester Williams , Rodney McGrew . On the offensive side Irving Fryar , Stanley Morgan James Collins , Craig James , John Hannah , Tony Eason .
Agree
That's quite an argument. I'd put up the 2004 team against any of them. Also 2014.
@@dozaarchives2225 the 2004 patriots was awesome but the 2014 patriots were lethal!
loved me some andre tippet power!
Tony Collins
Craig James: The Other Half of the Pony Express from SMU. Everyone else already knows Eric Dickerson.
They year the Patriots punched Their First Ever Ticket to the Super Bowl.
Then they got punched in the face by the Bears.
YesYou 123333
Well 35 years and 6 Super Bowl Victories later, as the old saying goes, “Everybody has to start somewhere”.
@@YesYou-zy7kp then the bears became ass since then and they still are!
American Airlines: Rates running on flights $29 - $151. Get them before there gone.
I'm just here to watch the 80s commercials.
i had one of those mazda pickups, mine was four wheel drive though, manual transmission too, loved that thing
For the Dolphins they should have been playing in the Super Bowl. They had beaten New England 19 straight in the Orange Bowl and on that day the entire team shit the bed. The Patriots just ran all over them and the defense capitalized on turnovers. The Dolphins defense just couldn't get it done in the playoffs. Marino never had a running game until late in his career and never had a quality defense like Elway in his last two years of playing especially a defense that finally rose up when they needed to be.
This happened a lot in my lifetime. Total bed shitting in a playoff game. 2015 Cardinals were awesome; 12-4; and vs the Panthers it was dull. 2011 Packers at home vs Giants. 39-20; a dull game for non-Giants fans. The Giants have a few of these vs Eagles. A divisional team can have high probability of knowing the other team too well; guessing the countermeasures to countermeasures. Finding tells like: the guard always puts 3 fingers down when the call is Power O to the left. When you play them 3x the interns have spent 3 weeks looking for that.
Every now and then I think about this loss and everytime I look back, somebody else is fumbling the ball for Miami...6 turnovers? Don Shula's wrath or Marino's magic would not be enough today...
They must have sprayed the balls with PAM with the amazing amount of fumbling going on.
Alan Gallant
It was One Wet and Rainy Miami Afternoon.
Today’s game brought to you by the makers of Pam, Butterfingers, and WD40
Brings me back.. 9 years old, yelling at the TV and rooting for my beloved Patriots to "squish the fish"... Really digging the commercials too.
Those Patriots uniforms.
I hated em back then. I actually kinda like them now. For some reason the old NFL uniforms looked so much better than most of the current ones
The Flying Elvis Patriots uniforms weren’t well received. Seemed only Kraft wanted to change from the Pat the Patriot uniforms.
@@jeremythompson9122 cause you get to see them in hd now lol
They're just a classic look the red ones. Actually the Patriots have had some decent uniforms imo. The 1993 & 1994 ones were simple but a good look. The 1995-1999 I couldn't stand those numbers. The 2000-2019 to me were pretty good. In particular the road uniforms had a arrogance of we're gonna kick your ass and you arent doing a thing about it. But the ones they got starting in 2020 are pure trash.
@@BAYAREA-kd1ig I hate the new uniforms so much. The all navy blue monochrome look is wretched. A majority of Pats fans want Pat Patriot and these sick unis back, but Kraft refuses. It pisses me off so much. #BringBackPat!!!
I am shocked watching this videotape! The Dolphins were manhandled! This wasn't even close. I was under the impression the Patriots playoff run was a fluke. However, the sun had truly set on the Dolphins dynasty days. The handwriting was on the wall a week earlier when an 8-8 Cleveland team dominated Miami being up 21-3 late in the 3rd. The Bear's would have beat anybody they played in Super Bowl XX.
The AFC team-best equipped to take on Chicago in Super Bowl XX was the LA Raiders who could match the Bears in the physicality department with a stout defense and had also having a running attack and game-breaking
receivers. The Raiders weakness would be Marc Wilson at QB getting beat up even worse than Tony Eason.
A healthy Plunkett may have tipped the scales.
Donald Knoblet yea they didn’t fumble four times!!!!!!and what team did beat the bears that year???!!!!
The Bud light commercial with the dogs running through the ring of fire - classic !!!
I remember getting home thinking it was still 17 to 7 and got surprised when I turned the tube on and it was 24 to 7. But I was just in time to see the turnover and the Marino to Nathan score and thought hell yea they are going to win this game. But the Damn turnovers killed them! Still makes me sick to this day.
Bryan Tennyson
The Patriots has this game from start to finish - and it’s not even close.
Turnovers are a part of the game but it was far from the only factor. The Patriots were peaking and the Dolphins were already starting to show decline and being out of sync.
The Patriots had the perfect game plan. They led the league in turnovers and used 3 sets of fresh runners to play keep away. They also had the defense to contain Clayton and Duper. They dominated both lines of scrimmage.
However, just like the Patriots matched up perfectly for the Dolphins, the Dolphins matched up better against the Bears and would have been interesting to see the rematch.
I still don’t believe Miami would have beaten the Bears on January 26th - the Bears had McMahon (Fuller was absolutely terrible) and would have been more prepared against Marino the second time. I don’t think anyone would have beaten the Bears on that day.
David Madras I do agree with you and also it was high time for the Dolphins to lose a game. Especially after the hard fought come back win against the Browns. Just wished they had at least one more win in them to give Marino another chance for a Superbowl win.
Plus NEW ENGLAND held on to the ball for 40 minutes! When your best weapon for the dolphins is just sitting on the sideline he can't beat you!
Tony Eason + But no one would have been steamrolled like the patsy's that day.
The 1985 bears could've beaten both fins and the pats on the same field at the same time. The pats "lucky" playoff run more or less exposed how weak the Afc was back in the 80,s and into the 90,s
Good to see TR12 doing his thing on the Pats' sideline.
What a good team Marino had in 1985-a Top 10 Offense, a Top 12 Defense, and his backs had OVER 2,500 yds. rushing and receiving. Too bad he was really outplayed by Tony Eason in this game as Dan's Passer Rating of only 54.9 proves.
It is hard to imagine how a QB could play so good against 1 of the best defenses (the Bears) in NFL history but then stink it up against a much weaker defense a couple of weeks later. But-1 game was in the Regular Season and 1 was in the playoffs. Dan was playoff challenged a majority of his career.
Marino's first half numbers were 10-17 / 145 yards / 1 td and one dropped td pass at the end of the half.
Miami fumbled on the first play of the game at their own 20 yard line leading to a Patriots fg. After a Marino TD pass gives them the lead, they then fumble on their own 35 yard line leading to a Patriots TD in the second quarter. At the end of the first half, Miami drives from deep inside its own territory to the Pats 15 yd line where Bruce Hardy drops an easy touchdown pass and Reveiz misses the ensuing FG. Rather than going in to half down by three (or 7 at worst) they go in down by ten points.
Miami begins the second half by fumbling the opening kickoff inside their own thirty yard line leading to another Patriots TD making the score 24-7 when it should have been 17-14 Patriots but Miami with the ball. Marino is then tasked with overcoming a huge deficit in a driving rainstorm against the league's #2 defense who knows he has to pass every down but does lead them to a touchdown cutting it to 24-14. They get the ball back with time to make a game of it but another fumble deep in their own territory leads to a Patriots final TD and they win 31-14 with 24 points off of turnovers.
@@ujohnlynch2341 But the bottom-line is the way Marino played in this game and in a majority of all of his playoff losses. Chase Stuart at P-F-R determined that this was another NEGATIVE VALUE Game for Marino. One of his 10 such playoff games. If you disagree with that--take it up with Chase.
@@dennismumford6108 Marino was 10-17 / 1 td and 145 yards in the first half with another touchdown dropped just before halftime that would have cut it to three points. That's after Nathan fumbles on the first play of the game leading to a FG and another fumble leading to a td. Then, they fumble the second half kickoff and NE goes in for a TD. What should be a 17-14 game is now a 24-7 game in a driving rainstorm. 24 of the 31 points were off of fumbles. Do you even watch the games or just troll Dolphins videos? Was Marino on the field as New England ran for almost 250 yards? You have a serious complex.
@@ujohnlynch2341 I AM NOT CHASE STUART.
Teams win playoff games by making less mistakes than their opponent. No team is going to win football games turning the ball over 6 times.
Lol i love watching these old 80s commercials.😂
Miami committed suicide - too many fumbles.
Wow, I haven't thought of Pete Axthelm in over 30 years now. I vaguely remember him talking crap about teams he didn't respect, like the Giants. He kept it up into 1986, and then had to knock it off when the Giants won the Superbowl. I don't remember much of him after that. A wannabe wiseguy who wound up being forced to shut his mouth.
Pete Axthelm was a Dolphins Homer for sure.he was pretty smug about his Dolphins team when it came to playing N.E. this time the PATS put a foot up Shula's ass.
He was a tool that thankfully disappeared.
I wanted to strangle him at halftime of Super Bowl XX when he said Bears vs. Pats was men against boys out there.
I always hated this game!!! It would’ve been a badass super bowl with the bears. A rematch!
The Bears would have killed them too.
@@MrNewtowner13 i doubt it that the dolphins would beat the bears the 2nd time in a row that season haha revenge factor! always but whatever the case miami wasn't there so.... easy free ring for the 1985 bears :P
Their Superbowl was stopping Da Bearsssss from going undefeated.
1:06:51 and 1:08:27 Raymond Clayborn had been all over Mark Duper all day, and of course the nail in the coffin with the game-ending interception. RIP Rod Rust, the Patriots defensive coordinator with the credit (don't forget Rust, who succeeded Berry, was once the head coach and had a one-and-done season finishing 1-15 in 1990)
Craig James could have been gr8 tailback if he stayed healthy.
So would Andy Johnson, but you can't always say, "What if."
Why did he decline?
classic nbc football, i am from an nfc state so games on there were like they were being broadcast from the moon for me, especially since the nfc was so dominant when i was a kid in the 80s/90s
I was working on a long-term project in Boston in 1992. The Patriots were awful, I think they ended up 2-14 that year. I told some locals I was thinking about going to the game and they laughed at me. I ended up passing since it was raining hard on gameday and I had no interest in watching bad football in the rain. Not too terribly long after this Super Bowl team.
I remember the Dolphins had fumble issues all year, and I woke up to rain hitting my bedroom window. I had such a bad feeling, and the Dolphins ended up fumbling like 4 or 5 times. It killed them. It felt like the Bears week 13 game rematch was going to happen, but they really played a bad game this day.
Dolphins lost a lot of playoff games at home , 1978 vs Houston , 1981 vs San Diego, 1983 vs Seattle , 1985 vs New England , 1992 vs Buffalo .
I went to this game and was a Dolphins fan. Later in the week following the loss we found out the Dolphins playbook was found in a trash can. Leading some to believe the Patriots had that playbook before the game because miami did not look like any play they ran could full the Pats.
Thomas Tedder I keep hearing that story
Interesting story.
I'm still shocked that Miami lost this game. Just knew we were going to see the rematch Dolphins vs. Bears in the Super Bowl.
Squish the Fish!!!! (I remember the t-shirts. :) 1:10:49
The Dolphins couldn't stop the run and the Pasties knew that from the week before when the Browns ran all over Miami and almost beat them. Also you will likely never win a game turning the ball over 6 times in a single game, that was pathetic.
True. However, there are some very rare exceptions. Very rare. 1981 NFC Championship. The 49ers have 6 turnovers. AND over 100 yards in penalties.
@@scottmitchell3641 yup, you just said my friend, "very rare."
Wish I could watch this with my old budd doug..Doug... this was his time
Looking back on it now that we have Marino's complete Resume to look at, you have to conclude that Dan would have played a bad game if he gets to the S.B. Biggest example-Marino puts 31 pts. on the board against the Broncos in the '98 Reg. season game win and then comes back a couple of weeks later in the playoff game loss with only 3 pts.
Dan's Resume also shows that his playoff loss a majority of the time was one of his worst games all year. But that stands to reason when you see that his avg. Passer Rating in a good majority of his playoff losses was around 60.
@@sandramumford817
He was so overrated!
If I recall, the Broncos had close to 200 yards of offense in the first quarter of the playoff game as three of their four starting DL for Miami were out with injuries and TD was running wild. Surely that was Marino's fault too, right?
It's funny how the Dolphins have never been able to make it back to the Superbowl since 1984
Around 1:06.00 it would appear Duper gave Freddy Marion the ol' one finger salute. This is the game that ushered in the notion that Marino would come-up rather small in big games. Btw...having grown up in this era it is my opinion that the NFL was not a more physical game prior to 2004. Tom Brady, for instance, has won Super Bowls(01' 03') in this same style - Offensive Football did not change much from 1978 until the reinforcing of the 5 yard chuck rule in 2004( aka... the Manning Rule). I would venture further to say, however, that the advent of digital technology in its relation to studying film has given a much greater advantage to offense schemes in discovering defensive tendencies along with the play designs meant to exploit those tendencies.
All it took was the Colts complaining to change the rules.
This was the most accurate comment ever said about football!! Of course brady won countless superbowls, the dude has been sacked in 10 years and of course im gonna hear people say he gets rid of the ball quick. Your right, but never having to worry about getting hit ever even for a cheap shot makes it too easy for him.
Marino was easily a better QB than Brady. Dan played on a less than average team almost his entire career and caused that team to be better than what they were. Brady has played on a great team almost his entire career in one of the weakest divisions in an easier era to throw in
There is NO MANNING RULE
@@ryanmclaughlin846 There was no rule change. They just re-enforced the Mel Blount Rule: no contact beyond 5 yards of the line of scrimmage
8:10...Hawthorne gets away with a blatant false start. Might not change the outcome, but that's just awful.
Yes!!!!!!!! I am glad someone else saw that. My lord. It was plain as day.
Manu you are literally everywhere here on YT and I love it! Just means we have alot in common with our videos and you must have great taste!
Squish the fish!!yes!!
How in the world was that not a false start for the first TD for the Pats on that 4th and inches at the goalline?!!! Maybe there were different rules back then, but it certainly looked like it.
No the rules were not different.......and pass interference not called with Duper in the end zone !!!!!!!fumbles lost the game .......Dolphins were the only team that could have beaten the Bears
@@johnyurick8785 I wasn't quite sure. Because you know they did change some of the rules about false starts. In those days a DL cld jump across the line and if the OL then moved, it was called a false start. Now they call it offsides. That was a huge change to the rules. That is why I inquired if there may have been something different there.
First Dolphin Play from scrimmage in the first half - fumble. First touch in the 2nd half on the kickoff - fumble. 17 points off of turnovers. Yes Dan didn't play well, but this game was fumbled away.
Its wild that their kick off had so many fumble recoveries. Hell they got a TD off a muff return in LA the week before this!
As a Bears fan, I'm curious as to how a rematch with Miami would have gone but I'm not complaining since we got the lombardi.
Ask Patriots fans today who was Steve grogran they have no idea who he is back then couldnt find a Patriots fan only in Boston now there fans everywhere bandwagoners
Steve Grogan, Russ Francis, George Atkinson (Raider), Phil Villapiano (Raider), Ray Hamilton, Ben Dreith ("referee"), Saturday December 18, 1976 Oakland Alameda County Coliseum infamy
You are correct. True Patriot fans need to know the history of their team. The whole 60 years, not just the last 20 years. At least learn about the 1996 Patriots, these 1985 Patriots, and the 1976 Patriots (including a certain infamous playoff game against the 1976 Oakland Raiders).
I saw him play. There's a few old games here: October 18, 1976, vs, Jets.
Yeah, they make me sick to my ass!
I'm paused at 1:21:44... 20 years later, the Pittsburgh Steelers would be the first team to start as a road wildcard team, will all 3 on the road... and ultimately *WIN* Super Bowl XL!
Nope New England was the first wild-card team to win three on the road on the way to the Superbowl
Turnovers killed the Phins in this gm. Yes they got run over in the game as well. But the deciding factor was definitely the turnovers.
The Superbowl would have been so much more interesting if Miami had won. The Bears would have had their chance to win against the only team they had lost to that year. Who do you think would have won the rematch?
Would have been one hell of a Superbowl. Wish it would have been in Pasadena.
The Bears would have Mauled Miami.NOBODY,and I mean no one could stop the bears in the SB.yeah,miami won on mon night but the bears would have adjusted and blown the Marino dolphins Away.
Walter Payton would have scored at least a touchdown.
I think bears would of made necessary adjustments and won plus bears was really peaking going into playoffs
55 to 17 , Bears
I’m Bears fan and I hate that Miami lost this damned game! The Dolphins were a better team than the Patriots, just not on that day.
I don't even remember this game!! But the weather helped the Patriots.
Miami had ample opportunities to get back in the game and win but those dad-blamed turnovers nixed that.
Not taking anything away from the Patriots for winning the game, but I felt the Dolphins were the better team talent wise. But on this day the Patriots prove to be the better team. Would of love to see the Dolphins vs the Bears in the Super Bowl. Would the Bears shut down Marino or would Marino beat the Bears like he did on MNF earlier in the season? We'll never know.
New England's answer to Chicago's Superbowl Shuffle video." New England the Patriots are we we're going to beat the Bears just wait and see!"😂😂😂
America got robbed from what could have been one of the best Super Bowls of all time. Miami didn't come to play. BTW, why are they wearing their away uniforms?
Chad Gibbons
Nobody was beating the Bears on January 26th, 1986 - no chance.
Go on all you want about Miami already have beaten the Bears earlier, but you talk about not coming to play - the Bears definitely did not show up in the Orange Bowl to play the Dolphins. That was a wake up call and the Bears were peaking in the playoffs, actually had their Quarterback (Fuller was an absolute joke), wouldn’t have given up a bunch of lucky plays and touchdowns like the MNF game, and would have a better scheme to defend Nat Moore in the slot next time.
Ditka was a horrible coach and was always so unprepared but it didn’t take a genius to figure out they needed to pound Payton and use more nickel defense. They definitely had the better team - and it wasn’t even close.
If you’re just a Miami homer, you obviously didn’t watch the Bears play this season - except against Miami!
They would have destroyed Miami, just like they absolutely destroyed all the best teams in the league that year - and it wouldn’t have been close.
Miami was a much better team in ‘84 and got man handled in the Super Bowl because the AFC was absolutely inferior to the NFC from ‘84 to ‘96. It was a joke how much the NFC dominated for Super Bowl for 12 straight years.
That said ; they match up better against the Bears than the Patriots did (just like the Patriots were matched better against the Dolphins) , and as a result ...
Bears 35 - Dolphins 16
Congratulations
Dz Nutz
San Diego, Buffalo, and the Rams all wore their dark jerseys [in the 80’s] so not sure what you’re getting at.
Miami wore white when it was hot and sunny, yes. But this was a late game, in January, on an overcast and rainy day.
It was actually out of the ordinary of Miami to wear white in this type of scenario. However, the players usually pick the uniforms and obviously chose white.
Thanks for the useless information though!
The home team chooses what color they're gonna wear.
LaTrone Latham
I think I explained that in detail - thanks!
David Madras No disrespect David, but I didn't read the entirety of your post. Nothing wrong with a little confirmation lest you want all the honor and glory. Thanks.
17:00 Marino throwing into coverage AGAIN!!
Marino, what is the deal here? Besides your two interceptions, you threw 26 incomplete passes in this game. 26!!! That is staggering. How is that even possible? You were only sacked once, Marino, and yet you could only complete 20 passes in 48 attempts. Terrible. Many like to claim that you are the best "pure passer" in NFL history, Marino, ---whatever that means. Your performance on this day does not demonstrate that. The Bears were waiting to rip you and the Dolphins to pieces in the Super Bowl, to settle a serious debt for ruining what had been an undefeated Chicago season. Instead, Dan Dolphin Marino, you presented the Bears with the Patriots as their Super Bowl opponent, a team the Bears looked at with disgust, having already crushed them early in the season. The Bears were incensed at the Patriots for keeping the Dolphins away from the terrifying and horrific blow out they had planned for Miami and Marino in the Super Bowl. So the Bears, in their fury, turned their full rage on the Patriots ---punching their lights out and beating most of the New England players senseless by game's end. Super Bowl 20: Chicago 46 New England 10. 46 points, a then Super Bowl record. 46 points --to remind everyone of the 46 defense? Ha! Neat coincidence. Chicago should not have let up at the end and allowed New England to score their lone TD. The final score should have been 46-3.
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Marino is so overrated. You said it best, his play was terrible and the pass rush wasn't that bad.
My dad says he tried to force it too much, and you see the result. A shame he couldn't harness his freakish raw talent better
Nothing but red
Patriots got 6 turnovers vs Raiders and won the game by a TD. They were a garbage team that got a ton of breaks in the playoffs....til the Bears mauled them
Hated this game. Robbed us of seeing a rematch between the Bears, and the only team that had defeated them that season, the Dolphins. Six turnovers is crazy. Happened the week before against the top seeded Raiders, in an even more crazy game.
Not saying the Dolphins, or Raiders, would have beaten the Bears in the Super Bowl, no. But it had to have been closer than the 46-10 demolition job the Bears gave the Pats.
If the pats went back to these uniforms I'm not saying I would like them but wouldn't hate and despise them like I do,I'm a dolphin and Steelers fan so the animosity is understandable,but them uniforms do look good compared to what they been wearing for 30 years
They were who we thought they were...
..Dennis Green
You want everything in a QB with Marino. He can run if has to in his prime. Not quite Steve young fast but fast enough. The laser arm. I don’t think people realize how pretty his ball was. Spiral. Speed. Or the deep touch. But …like they finally said after Brady. You can’t Measure leadership. Heart. Work ethic & just a willingness to not lose & u don’t need marinos arm. You get Mac Jones with Brady’s Brain. With macs noodle arm. He’d have 1 or 2 SB wins in 10-13 years.
I wish modern angles existed before 06 so I can appreciate Marino better. I don't know how I loved football so much in 1990, having no idea what's really going on in trenches and downfield. Today you can see a lot on broadcast angle, at least a presnap read counting off screen safeties, D front, personnel and formation, and every blitz and run play is possible to identify. Only The downfield route combos are offscreen but if its a catch, you can figure it out.
ALL the way back to a corded phone commercial.
So basically, the Dolphins choked.
The Dolphins basically had no defense. Shula had a great offense, but he neglected his defense. He must've had early dementia, forgetting he won back to back Super Bowls 10 years earlier with a great defense.
Basically you dont know what you're talking about, how did the dolphins choke?? Their defense was hot garbage and got pushed around and bullied like rag dolls, they were ran over by white bum running backs. They split the regular season, Patriots had a way better team, the dolphins had a way better QB and that was it. QBs dont win by themselves, learn the game or dont discuss it
Yep... choked!
@@lainiwakura4678 wrong you choked
@@gregtrust5599 No. Miami was the better team. But when you commit 6 turnovers it's pretty difficult to comeback and win.. Everybody knows Miami would have beaten the Bears, look what happened to you guys.. Destroyed by the Bears😂😂😂😂😂
Dorothy Hamill........yowza!!
Squish The Fish
Bears probably would have got their revenge. But wouldve been much more interesting to see a Chicago-Miami rematch. And at least Marino would have 2 SB appearances on the resume. But 2 fumbled kicks, Marino fumbles a snap, Nathan has another fumble inside his 20, on the 1st play from scrimmage, a dropped td..then after a high snap..Miami misses a short fg..& Im still early in the 3rd qtr! You can't beat any good team, doing that crap. Then after NE fumbles..Marino throws a pick right at the goal line-wow. Maybe they were looking past New England, but I doubt it. Sure wish Miami wouldve won, but ya gotta show up. As if the Patriots needed any more AFC titles..little did we know in '85..after an 11 yr absence..Pats would get to 10 more SBs,& win 6... after this 1.
The Super Bowl would've been eerily similar to the Washington wins over the Bears in the next two playoffs. The 46 was always exploitable for big plays...you just needed the right QB and playmakers to do it. I think the difference would've been the Bears ability to score points...but it would've been great great game. Buddy Ryan never adjusted...Marino and the Dolphins would've had the same opportunities they had in the Orange Bowl.
I blame Dan Johnson dropping the touchdown in the first half for the Dolphins losing .
And in the Super Bowl the year before Marino's only touchdown pass was to Dan Johnson
That's a big factor for the loss.
The field was just awful..mudfest.Seemed like it hurt Dolphins more than Pats
the orange bowl is the coolest stadium in the history of football, and second place isn't close.
Out of curiosity, why? Are you just being nostalgic, you don't care for billion $ complexes like So Fi? Which, I gotta respect, no taxpayer dollars are in it. Its on my bucket list but by the time Im retired for 3 day way weekends to see games everywhere like horseshoe and big house and swamp; it will be in bad shape.
@WalterWhiteFootballSharing the orange bowl was built, and expanded, with football in mind. that's it. its purpose was as a place you could come to and watch a game. the seats that sloped up very quickly all the way around meant that there really wasn't a bad seat in the house. that, and the noise that created and amplified (especially the metal bench seats in the closed end's end zone) also provided a massive home-field advantage for the dolphins (and later the u. of miami). invariably today, when you watch either team at home, and the fans get fired up, the announcers will comment, "....yea, it's loud, but nothing like at the old orange bowl..." teams across all sports try to artificially create "atmosphere" with huge video boards, screaming p.a. announcers, etc. the orange bowl itself created the "atmosphere". the open end providing a view of the city, the palm trees, and buildings and the water beyond. no stadium ever looked cooler than the orange bowl on a bright sun-shiny day. you mention sofi stadium. the rams are my team, and sofi is very cool. the coliseum is neat to go to (not a lot of fun to get to or get out of), but it isn't an nfl-level facility in 2023, and we needed another place to play. that said. the place has all the bells and whistles that the orange bowl didn't, yet has 1,000 times LESS "atmosphere" (however that's defined) than the orange bowl did, if only because of its sheer size. it was constructed, as just about all arenas and stadiums are now, with casual fans and luxury box customers very much in mind. the orange bowl wasn't "the hub of a multi-purpose, multi-use entertainment complex". it wasn't part of a downtown renovation. it was in kind of a grungy part of town at a time when fans didn't require wine bars and a booth to record instagram videos from the stadium during the game. times change. but orange bowl is just a masterpiece.
If Dolphins would've took Patriots much more seriously they would've won this game
Flash-forward to nowadays in the last 4 seasons, and it's the other way around!
@@dolphignition7176 I'm not talking about in the last 4 seasons I'm talking about the year 1985 afc Championship game
Woulda,coulda,shoulda,GTFOH.
@1:14:00 Merlon Olsen says he lost twice in championship games to Minnesota '74 & '76 but he's forgetting when he lost to Dallas in 1975 (maybe because the score was 37-7!)
SQUISH THE FISH!
Miami was the only team to beat the Bears that year. It was so in the cards that Miami should've won.
Buddy is so damn stubborn, the game is on YT, he insisted on blitz happy no safeties making short passes work every time. It's why nobody does all out blitzes except as surprise changeups. All Modern NFL offenses have quick pass answers to sending the house with unsound coverages behind it.
too bad
Eason rocked!
He was a very good QB. Underrated.
A compact pickup for 7,000.
As I watch some of the Dolphins playoff games in the 1980's I notice that Mark Duper and Mark Clayton are often overpowered by physical playoff defenses.
If the dolphins didn't choke this game the legacies of dan marino and the 85 bears are different
Yeah. The 85 Bears Defense isn't even as dominant as the 86 Bears, but 85 is the only year QB McMahon stayed healthy and Walter Payton was healthy and still great. But they win a ring so that's considered 'the greatest defense of all time' by folks who don't read profootballreference. An often repeated trope: "In this game this OL is so bad they made the other team look like the 85 Bears"
Spygate started here!
Shula hates losing?...Lombardi wasn't crazy about it either
All NFL coaches admit to hate losing more then they love winning. This goes for players too, after 8 losses fans understandably root for losing to draft higher. But for players and coaches, it's like life and death, at 4-10 they're DYING to not go 4-11. "All or Nothing 2016 Rams" On Amazon Prime taught me just how big a deal every single loss is. It was Greek tragedy.
#24 is such a HUGE deal in New England. Berry. But TY law. Revis. Lock downs. Captains. I can’t believe they didn’t make Gonzalez 24. Giy loses an EASY rookie / defensive rookie of the year. Shut down AJ brown. Tyreke hill. Waddle. Garret Wilson & was going to cede lamb. Strait BS.
Rain certainly didn't help already on grass
See Miami beat Chicago on Monday night so they were supposed to play them in the playoffs and or super bowl and i remember this super bowl being sooo boring but the bears were unstoppable that certain particular season
Pats got away with pass interference calls covering Duper.
New england's ground game decided the outcome
Dolphins vs Bears Super Bowl would’ve been competitive.
No, it wouldn't. Miami was soft, which is why NE beat them.
Miami would have gotten the same beating. Marino would have been sacked 8-10 times and thrown 4 INTs.