CHROMOLY vs HI-TENSILE STEEL (BMX)
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- The key differences between Chromoly & Hi-Tensile Steel.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME:
(Hi Tensile Steel is High Carbon Steel used in general bicycle manufacturing & to save money)
(Chromoly is Steel + CHROmium & MOLYbdenum used for bicycles that see excessive daily stress)
Chromoly is the standard today in freestyle bmx. Not because of opinion but due to the fact that all most 100% of today's professionals dont use hi-tensile anymore.
Thank You All For Watching
Good video but I have used steel over chromoly many times with some insane dirt jumps and I have never bent a fork or a frame, so chromoly is not a need.
well if you want a bike under 30 lbs it is
You weigh 83 lbs though. What happens when we at 185 lbs throw some triple insanity jumps at a frame? Things squish and welds break and then the forest goes silent.
I would recommend hi-ten steel for beginners because after two years when the bike starts to wear down you could possibly be a pro and want to buy your own professional bmx bike. So the hi-ten steel is perfect.
+Jeclonax I would like to think so but inexperienced riders usually crash more and beat their bikes up a tad bit more than professionals therefore needing chromoly throughoutbtue whole learning process..
Not to mention if you can do tricks on steel bikes you can do them on crhomoly just as easy... The don't want to tell you cromoly breaks too.
That's why bmx is going down hill you tell kids they can't start on a cheap bike they have to buy a 600.oo bike. Parents are not going to buy that for a kid 6 years old and have to buy another one when they reach 11.
If you're a pro are you actually buying your own bike? Apparently it only takes 2 years from beginner to pro though 🤷🏻♂️
is hi-tensile steel good if u just wanna ride..occasionally do a hop and maybe a manuel?
great comparison, thanks!
Bikes made of hi-tensil steel are not so bad after all. I had a generic bike made of standard steel and I practiced bunny hop with that. Other parts of my bike as the rims broke after so much time of use but the steel frame never broke or bent.
I agree with the idea of use a chromoly frame instead of hi-tensil steel if you are a professional rider. But if you are an amateur rider who only rides on the street, you can practice and have fun using a well made hi-tensil steel frame while you are saving money for buy a professional street bike later.
Expensive chromoly frames are only for sponsored riders or juniors who have a high social status and can start with a chromoly frame.
+Freeguy Fenikkusu I still disagree with that. Being someone that has rode for all their life I've had countless types of all kinds of bikes. I've owned and rode dozens of both. Even when I was a novice who could only bunny hop my crashes, bails & slips on grinds were pretty bad like most beginners and ended up spending a lot of time with out a bike because I couldn't afford a new frame every 6 months.. (I myself have personally broken over 5 hi-tensile frames & the majority of those breaks were when I was a beginner). If all you are doing is bunny hops & cruising than a hi tensile steel bike is fine but just bunny hops are not much of bmx riding to be honest. If you want to progress your riding and learn new tricks a hi tensile steel bike will more than likely not last while learning those tricks. Just a few. Hi tensile steel bikes of today are "generally" made with thinner tubing than the bikes of a couple decades ago. I strongly argue that chromoly isn't just for professionals but for ANYONE wanting to be serious about learning new tricks from any skill level.
+Freeguy Fenikkusu It all comes down to your personal riding preference. If someone wants to be serious with learning new tricks, pushing their limits & wants to ride every day than a hi tensile steel bike if today will start to bend and wear down too quick for the hundreds of dollars spent on it. In the long run (if you are planning to be serious with trick learning & ride every day) than a full chromoly bike is a better money saving investment since it can structurally last you over twice as long as a tensile steel bike..
I have a framed impact with hi tensile steal and I upgraded the bars because they weren't the best I got Rant bars that are full chromoly because the hi tensile steel ones bent bad but my hi tensile frame and fork are still holding up but I'm upgrading the fork soon. Cool video too.
I think the same. I still must be convinced by the bmx brands I general but my little son has a almost new 550 dollar bmx and the 1020 hi ten bar was easily bent... And has to be replaced.
I just bought a 2019 eastern lowdown and now I’m returning that shit before I break it. Thanks for the info. If I can’t ima be pissed.
I friend who doesn't do freestyle at all, they just pedal around for transportation and hi-tensile steel is fine for them. If you're learning any kind of tricks, then yea bump up to chormoly frame and forks. Great educational video.
Me ajudou muito, Brazil here!! thanks manitoo
Perfect length
Big thumbs up for the doggo.
thanks for the info
Thanks for the video But I have a 2021 Haro Shredder pro that was full Hi tensile I upgraded wheels, seat post ,Handlebars, stem,Crank, and forks plus the brake lever for shits and giggles I don't do a bunch of tricks and or jumping but I do ride alot in the city , all i noticed was the weight drop from 28lbs to 19lbs almost 10lbs and it cost about 500 dollars to do so yea its worth going full chromoly from the jump
I got a kink launch 2018 and it just shipped. It is 100% high tensile steel. I am only 110lbs so should it be fine for me??
Noah 1il maybe im like 104lbs
Noah 1il did it break? I’ve just got a hi tensile steel and worried it will break
@@cookiemonster15781 i got a wtp nova 2019 and broke the frame and the backwherl
So here is my experience with hi ten steel.
So my stock forks are 2018 Haro Blv est 78 forks. (Its also the whole bike if you want to know what im riding) and the forks held up alot of shit eating, and more shit eating. Like airing out ot the bowl by like 6ft and shit.
But I went down into my city and rode for a little bit. And I did a little drop off of a 2 foot ledge, and they bent. I still rode with then for the rest of the day. But if you have those forks for over a period of time and use. Get odyssey r32 or r25 forks because they are 👌
And that hi tensile steel parts weigh more then chromeoly parts because hi tens steel is a weak metal, so they make more layers so it wont break on you after jumping off a curb.
But if you do get new forks on your stock bike, get a extra spacer or two because some forks have a longer neck then others. And if your neck is longer, and you have no spacers. You cant put your stem on.
Thank you!!!
i,m planing to buy my first chromoly thanks for the video amazing
Dude thanks a lot for the video comparing those specs!!!! Really nice :D
great vid as usual, always recommend this channel to fellow riders
+illiterate thug That's awesome. THANKS!
Thanks for the information brother
This helped a lot tahnks
Thanks for your experience.
The amount of people that don't understand that chromoly also is steel😴
I know right... It's crazy... There is a comment somewhere in here where a kid is basically yelling at me saying that they are so different you need a special welder for chromoly. Says they don't weld together.. SMH...
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) are premium product solo plus made of chromolly just wandering could use an anwser
Looking into buying a bmx between 250 and 350 however most bikes at that price don’t have chromoly. I’ve never done bmx before so not sure if I’ll need chromoly “yet” but I ride bikes everyday so feel like bmx will come naturally. Any recommendations for a good bike in my price range or comments about what I just typed in general? :) I’ve looked at the United supreme 2017 brown and chrome. www.sourcebmx.com/Mobile/en/United-Supreme-BMX-Bike-2017/m-m-31627.aspx
framed attack ltd. its a great bike i got it from the-house.com. just recommend better pedals, tires, and a sealed bottom bracket
ben Tickhill thanks for the help but how can I be a good bike when you recommend all that stuff 😂😂😂👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
What you are calling chromoly is chromium and molybdemum steel. Pure steel is only iron and carbon. "Steel" is usually iron with varying amounts of carbon but also with other elements added such as nickel, chromium, vanadium, chromium, molybdenum.
We have a video that explains that... Chromoly is Iron and carbon steel with the elements Chromium and Moybdenum added in the manufacturing process to increase tensile strength.
Hey, what do you think is better and why. 2013 Haro 300.1 or 2012 Sunday Spark
good vid and thanks for makin it helped me out with my decision. im gettin the 2016 kink liberty sexton.
Sweet! good choice! hopefully the videos we have coming out soon will help you maintain it better than everyone else too!
How do you tell if a bike is chromoly when buying used
It's very hard to tell by looking at the material of the bike itself. There is no visual difference between chomoly and regular steel since chromoly only has 2 extra elements incorporated that changes the overall molecular/tensil strength of the metal. Best thing to do is try your hardest to identify "Make & Model" so you can cross reference the specifications with the Manufacturer.
Very helpful
I'm looking to purchase either Fit 2017 Benny 2 or WATP 2016 Trust, any thoughts on which is better? and is there a difference when the specs say CrMo vs. full 4130 CrMo?
i got hi-tensile steel bmx bought it before 4 years and its still alive no cracks no dents
ive done soo much things with this bike maybe in this case the hi-tensile steel somehow survived :)
+Sv3tliGaming Bmx has been in a weird transition the last decade where chromoly has taken over.. Pretty recently in time you could get good quality hi tensile steel bikes.. Now-a-days we see hi-tensile frames being made thinner & lighter to compare to their chromoly siblings.
my bmx weight is 17 kilos the fame/forks/bar is soo thick its not thin like an average bmx bike
sorry for my bad english :)
That is quite heavy.
Svetoslav P. mine got a dent near the headset coz my father just banged it with a mallet when we try to remove the forks and the bars......my bike is already 6 yrs....
I am 32kgs and thinking about buying a bmx which is hi-ten steel. Will the frame be strong enough? (the bike is a jet block)
Hello Buddy!
Thanks for your guide video... Like It
Much appreciated
How do u tell if it’s cromoly or not
Good vid bro cheers
Any one have thoughts on the Sunday scout I only manual and some flat land stuff I am 45 and I have a bucket list to learn to ride park in a very basic way just to be fluid
Sunday is a pretty reliable brand.. Make sure the frame has a lifetime warranty.. Sunday provides lifetime guarantee's on certain products.. If you want a good investment towards a bike that will last you, we suggest saving up for a bike that includes a guaranteed frame.
Nice to know bc I was buying a high tinsel steel bike and I have chromale on my old bike do now I’m going to swap the parts 😂
I ride my bikes really hard I run a titanium frame,wheels and some other parts.
I use to ride a full chromoly bike but I some how managed to brake and bend several parts it’s better to never cheap out on upgrade parts.
It’s pretty important I think to understand that titanium is actually not nearly as hard as heat treated chromoly steel. It is, however, much lighter. That’s really the purpose of titanium, fantastic strength to weight. Typically chromoly parts are much stronger, but also much heavier.
It’s worth mentioning that there’s a difference between hardness and stiffness. It’s a little more complicated to understand, but some metals like titanium or aluminum can be very stiff and maintain structural shape while being less hard, meaning they won’t resist impact or grinding very well. Chromoly (or any hardened high carbon steel) is much HARDER meaning it will not dent or wear away from sliding or grinding as easily. Again, the trade off here is that it’s heavier. “High tensile steel” as used in cheaper bike parts is not that hard, and still heavy.
Not sure why I felt compelled to post this but there ya go.
Well your titanium bike is probably at least over 2k definitely more
hi BNC i found a 1997 royce union bmx bike in a friend´s garage it is in perfect condition tho but i got a question do you think that it is full chromoly, cause it really looks like it it is very light and strong :)
+_ Niinja _ That's a pretty historic bike. Look it up. It's actually apart of the bmx museum in America.
0_0 damn i didnt expect that
what about the strength of a BMX frame made of 316 stainless steel?
Great video. I am not into BMX but have recently seen a bike of interest here in NYC, a mountain bike that is made of Hi-Tensile steel. If I were to get this I am not looking to take off road too often but living in the city there are the city street that bumps and dips etc at times if not when on a good paved bike riding path. Would you still not recommend a Hi-Tensile frame even for daily commuting if one is not doing BMX jumps and tricks with a mountain bike. Would it be okay to do some off-road? Thanks again for the great video.
hi ten steel is fine for daily usage and light mountain biking
I would recommend an E-Bike for the urban settings of NYC. Don't get caught lackin, you want to get up and get out of those hoods in a snap. Have a sign that says "driver carries a lot of cash" so they will be scared of you.
Hey I'm looking to get a new bmx bike (complete) i don't have a lot of money to spend (anything under 320$) should I get a fully chromoly bike with unsealed bearings or a hi ten bike with everything sealed. I am a beginner. If u could respond and tell me ur suggestions that would be very appreciated.
+StrafeFX I would suggest a bike with a chromoly Triangle and sealed parts. Un-sealed parts are a pain to work with. If you get all sealed parts you can generally upgrade your bike over time.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) is this a good bike? www.the-house.com/qfrwit20dgg17zz-framed-bmx-bikes.html
StrafeFX did you ever buy a bike? If so, do you like it and what'd you buy ? I'm interested in buying a good cheap bike as well.
x Bezels yes I actually just got it today I bought this one: www.the-house.com/qeaorb20bk17zz-eastern-bmx-bikes.html (300$) since I got it this afternoon I wasn't able to ride it too much but it's fine because I love it already. If you think this bike is too expensive you can just browse other bikes on that website they have good cheep bikes with decent parts. If you want a cheap chromoly bike check out this one: www.the-house.com/qfrattp20rnf16zz-framed-bmx-bikes.html (only 240$)
StrafeFX dang good looks bro!I'll definitely look into getting one soon !
alright so ive been riding a Kink Launch 2017 for about 6 and a half months until the frame finally snapped. now im looking into buying a new complete bike called the "Kink Gap 2018 Freecoaster" and i looked at the specs and noticed it said the frame was made out of "100% 4130 Chromoly HT, TT and DT" and im hella confused what "HT, TT, and DT mean.. if anybody knows, i would be happy to know what that stands for. like is it a full cromoly frame or not ?
+Jesus Chavez It would be A partial chromoly frame.. Here is what those letters mean.
HT=Head tube (where the forks go through)
TT=Top tube
DT=Down Tube
Try Looking at the "Kink Whip". It's the most reasonably priced full chromoly complete and will last a long time.
looking for a little help, I bought a bmx yesterday and it's an Amber Archos, I bought it for £40 and would like to know the full value of it, was brand spanking new
Someone help me 😭 how do i know if a bike is hi or chromoly? Im buying a bike and the guy dosnt know if its a chromoly or a hi. Sorry for the bad English
+Subwoofer Geinious Well It is all most impossible to tell by just looking at the metal or knocking on it. Both metals are magnetic and look similar. What you should do is ask what model the bike is & search it's sale description through Google. The sale decriptions will tell you what it has. Other than that It is next to impossible to tell the difference by eye.
+The BNC (Bmx News Channel) its like full gold or bronze he doesn't remember the model but i know it has a cassette hub and its 20'' help me please!!!
+Subwoofer Geinious You won't be able to definitively tell with out knowing the model. It's very easy to fool someone with private bike sales... My suggestion is to check all the weld areas really close for cracks. Also look down the length of the frame like a gun sight. Hi tensile steel is prone to being bent in the rear end from lots of 180s.. If the frame is straight & there are no cracks on it than it's not a bad deal if he isn't asking too much. Not knowing that info on the bike he's selling should keep him from selling it at a high price.
+The BNC (Bmx News Channel) yeah i got it it says signature on the frame of the bike i have a picture of it where can i send it to you???
+Subwoofer Geinious
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Would the eastern javelin be a good bike then. The frame is half and half.
Which is lighter? Hi-ten steel or chromoly?
+Jeclonax Similar weight... The reason why chromoly bikes are generally lighter is because they can utilize less material while still being just as strong as a hi tensile counterpart.
The full chromoly Mongoose Scan R90 is retailing for £240 in England. Is there a catch with this bike ?
+Harpocrates Nope no catch. Mongoose sells all different types of bikes & sells more bikes than most other BMX companies. They can offer a legit bike for a good price. Seriously full chromoly frame, fork & bars for that price is a really good deal!
This was the best deal I could find for my daughter`s birthday, incorporating the medium and high parts recommended in your buying guide video.
Hey I need some help I am going to buy a new bmx I am new so do you think maybe a se bike everyday would be a good choice?
+cash harper Definitely. SE bikes work good for beginners.
What about aluminum frame with chromoly forks and steering tube
*Picks up a fork* "yeah i dont what you call this" haha should i even take advice from you bro
+fatman6647 I was referring to the individual legs welded to the steer tube. I clearly called them forks 2 times before that point of the video. Did you even watch the whole video? Lol Obviously not.
If u made a bmx frame with very thick steel like 1/2 thick , whouldnt it be pretty much indestructible , heavy , but tough ?
Yes you are correct. Our information on hi-tensile steel is based off the fact that today's industry is making them thin to match the weight of chromoly editions. The thinner the tube wall is, the less outside force it can take.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) even
Im looking to buy a Subrosa bmx bike and its made out of so called "1020 High Tensile Steel" im assuming its a more sturdy metal then regular Tensile Steel ? Or so called High Tensile Steel
were can i look at buying a full chromoly bmx
and what price range would i be looking at
+joey nance Any real local bike shop or online mail order can sell you one. You can always tell because the description will say "100% full chromoly."... The price range of full chromoly bikes can go from $400-$1100 USD...
*Some reputable online mail order shops are:
www.danscomp.com
www.albes.com
www.chainreactions.com
ty m8
joey nance Google is your friend
Everything on my bike minus the frame is cromo but I only ride a flat rail in the front drive way and the occasional ledge. (Of course I hop over stuff and do gaps that won't kill me) hopefully the HI-Ten frame will be ok. At least I can buy a used cromo frame later.
When grinding, watch hitting your chain stay bar on a ledge. If that’s all the stuff you’re doing, that will be where your frame fails at. Back in 2005 I cracked 2 DK General Lee, hi tensile frames in a couple months of each other at the chain stay from grinding.
im looking to buy my first bmx bike and ive never bought one ever before, i dont want to do major tricks just looking to ride and do a barspin or tailwhip since im just a beginner. should i spend a lot of money for the chromoly or go cheap and go for the steel? if u could recommend a cheap durable bike than id appreciate it
+Sandeep Virk In your case we suggest a bike with at least a "Chromoly front triangle" or "5 tube crmo" or "chromoly DT & TT"... Basically there are 3 types of bikes. Hi-tensile steel, partial chromoly & full chromoly. Full chromoly is sometimes too much and too expensive for beginners so you can choose partial chromoly like the ones I listed.
@@BMXNEWSCHANNEL is the kink gap durable enough to withstand some jumps at a skate park and mayne a quarter pipe? Its half chromoly I just ordered one
Does having more carbon, i.e chromoly,weigh more,all other things being equal?
+Cosmo John I wasn't very specific in the video.. The carbon is not really the catalyst in the metal being stronger. Chromoly is lighter but stronger all around because it is a metal alloy. This means it contains a few different elements to strengthen the molecular structure of the metal. Chromoly is always lighter but stronger than Hi-tensile steel. The only reason why every company doesn't use it, since it seems so amazing, is because of high costs.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Thanks for your clarifications. I guess bicycle companies prefer things that break rather than things that lasts so that they can keep selling
What about a front chromoly triangle is that good or not
+Jay Johnston That is the only thing besides chromoly that is a reasonable choice..If you can't afford full chromoly than a "chromoly triangle" or "5 tube crmo" is the next best choice.
Better than 100% hi ten steel
I just picked up a chromoly bike from the early 90s for 40 bucks. 😜
Holy shit I bet it weighs 40 lbs
2:20 hmm....interesting........it must hurt
Quick question. Im going to buy A second hand WTP Trust 2013 edition. It's full Cromoly frame and Fork. The Fork is 1pc. (Is that even good?) He asks €270! You can't even see the bike is used. Should I get it?
Yes 1 piece fork is THE kind you want. Strongest style.. There are 1 & 2 piece forks. To put it easy: 2pc forks usually break where the 2 pieces are made together & 1pc forks are manufactured to where it is welded together & that joint is gone. The level of build quality on a 1pc is #1. If the bike is mint and in working order, like new, than it's a good deal. Can't buy a 2017 bike like it for less than €370.
I forgot to mention... In the video the beige forks are 2 piece and the black forks are 1 pc. You can easily see which is better.
Thanks for the asnwer :)
bruh i new by the 41 thermal logo lol.
which is better a handlebar of HI-TEN or one of chromolly???
+yayo tips Chromoly all day!
Thanks bro
greetings from Mexico
What do u think about the complete bikes from Mafiabikes for beginners?
They are still mostly hi tensile, should you still buy?
+OWMedia It depends on your level.. For beginners all most any bike will do the job. The only reason we hate hi tensile steel bikes, all though they are for beginners, is because they push people to stop riding as a beginner. They don't last as long as you expect it to for hundreds of dollars..
@@BMXNEWSCHANNEL that is nonsense. My bike is now 7 years old and it has no problems and no bending or any problems what so ever.
im looking to buy my first bmx bike and ive never bought one ever before, i dont want to do major tricks just looking to ride my local pump track and do barspins since im just a beginner Im also not going to ride it everyday. Should i get hi tensile steel bikes because i dont much money to spend
+Ninja _Raven +Ninja _Raven Yeah. I suggest a partial chromoly bike. It will be listed as a "front triangle" or "5 tube Crmo" in the sale description. Full chromoly is too expensive for what you plan to do every day.
the problem is i cant find any partial chromoly bikes in my local shops
+Ninja _Raven Try Danscomp.com
good information
How light is chromoly?
hi I am bigginner and I am serious about bmx . is mongoose mode 900 good for me? And I am getting it cheap
How cheap? Talk to me and I could suggest some pretty good ones for beginners that are serious about bmx.
I'm looking for a new bike for around $350. I've seen the SE everyday and the GT performer and those are what I'm looking at right now. Not that serious but id like something decent to learn on. Any suggestions?
+Henry mm Those 2 selections are good bikes to start out with.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) is there anything better I could get for the money? I'm willing to hunt around a bit. Also thanks for the reply
+Henry mm Those are actually top pics for the price but if you want to spend just a tiny bit more you can get a full chromoly "Kink Whip" which is better quality than the other 2.
United recruit
Can I grind on hi-ten tho?
Hi great video I want to start riding with my friend now he has a granade bmx and Im looking for a good bmx for under $200 I know its a little low but ive seen some and I dont know what to choose if you could please recomend a couple that would help me out so much thanks (im 14)
+Angelo Calderon You could try looking up "Fiction BMX" bikes. They are really good priced. If not that try to look up the sale and clearance section of www.danscomp.com. Hope you find a bike to ride my friend.
+The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Do you think the Grenade Launch X BMX 20in is a good bike? Its the one my friend has thanks again.
Wow, really? I thought Chromoly is STEEL but a higher quality? Is there a weight difference between Chromoly and Hi Tensile steel and aluminum?
uKnow yes there is . It is both usually lighter and stronger
Chromoly is steel
em português qual o nome desse material?
Just picked my Bmx out of the shed after 2 years of no use, and now I remember why I left it in there. It weighs so fucking much and I can barely bunny hop with the thing.
lol They were pretty heavy a few years back. Most 20in bikes these days range from 23-27lbs... Chromoly is a pretty light material. Lighter but stronger than hi-tensil steel.
+The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Yeah it's made by GT and is 20 inch. The frame is thick as fuck, I really need to compare it with another bmx. Cos I'm pretty sure I'm not that weak lol
mine too
I have a mid school specialized Vegas that's the same story lol. Back then you'd get scoffed at with a light bike lol.
how to know if a bike frame is chromoly or hi tensile steel ?
my question too
i have a major confusion- whats the difference between sanko vs full chromoly??
i know sanko is Japanese; but if compared between sanko & chromoly which one would stand out in terms of longevity ?
Sanko tubing is Chromoly...there is nothing different It's just the company name. Saying a bike has Sanko tubing just means it has Japan manufactured chromoly tubing. Sanko is just popular for making good quality Tubing. It's not actually different or anything. It's mostly just an advertising gimmick. So.. saying a bike is Chromoly means it's made out of steel, saying it's made from Sanko just means it's made out of steel from japan.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel)
thanks alot for clearing out this, much gratitude
+Abid Hussain Any time.. I will try to answer every question! Thanks for watching! 👍
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There both steel though just differwnt types
ya sounds cool. cant wait for your bmx trails videos. i am making some trails too.
is 100% chromoly friends better than other chromoly frames like not sure about the measurement now but like 5150 or something like that I remember back then they didn't say 100% chromoly they said something else chromoly just saying is 100% chromoly that much better
That's why Chromoly are used for touring and mountain bikes.
Unfortunately, in Misr, we don't have Cr-Mo bikes, in the past we was having Italian and English steel bikes but now we are drowned with the F* cheap Hi-Ten Chinese bikes, and the ppl who buy this bikes, they sell it after some months, so as soon as i collect the Chromoly price i'll buy it online,. i hope soon.
Thanks a lot for the knowledge.
Are mafia madmains good bikes they are made it hi tensile.
Hey bro what hubguards are you running??
In the front I use the plastic "G-Sport Gland, & full Metal "Daily Grind" guard in the back.. I definitely recommend Daily Grind guards. they are thick and super strong..
i just found out my alpinestar mtb is all cr mo
Yea. My haro is hi tens steel and my dad was being an ass hole (still got me a bmx bike so I can't be mad.) and got me the bike. It has super nice cranks. Like really nice and I'm happy about those. But for 380 my dad got ripped off for a worse bike.
Spoiled brat, get a job and buy whatever you want
Thought the dog was a pig at first
Steel💪
Is just a chromoly down tube gonna hold up or is full chromoly needed for a rider who want to go off medium sized jumps and drops?
+MOTO You would benefit better from a "Chromoly triangle" or at least the downtube+chainstays.. It's not going to kill you or hurt you. The whole point behind staying away from 100% hi tensile steel is because it just doesn't last as long these days.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Thanks for the quick response!
It is okay to buff and polish a chromoly frame? Thanks in advance :)
Poloshing is to make the metal look like a chrome, right?
+Keanu Delgado Yes, you polish the metal to make it look like chrome... Making it look chrome will take a long time and to get it that shiney you will need to use a very fine grit sandpaper..... The more fine grit sandpaper the more shiney it will become.
+The BNC (Bmx News Channel) ahhm, thanks sir :)
+The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Is chromoly a lot lighter?
Does tensile steel rust???
lmao its steel so yeah
Yes it does.
Weighs less too.
Tensile strength not tensil.
+DYNA KLO Thank you so much for correcting me. I am at a loss for words at how I let the last letter slip so many times for so long. 😂
But i also have a hi ten steel bike not a bmx and i dropped it so many times and nothing happened to it
+WoLf X Hi tensile steel bikes can still be bmx, just not the best. Dropping a bike never hurts it anyway. It's forcefully riding it that causes problems "over time"...
aha so thank you. helped me out! btw for a person who just got into it is the radio dice bike any good?
Does cromoly rust? Sorry if it is a stupid question but it s because i want to take my cromoly bike in the rain? Can i or should i take my Alux road bike? (The Alux one worth more)
My bones are way stronger than hi-ten steel.
Never buy hi ten bars. They Will eventualy bend in when on the stem and Will slip.
You need to fix your voice vomume vs intro music. Your voice is toi low but the muaic is too loud
damn really hyping on the chromoly and hating on the hi-ten, not everyone can afford chromo
+The BNC (Bmx News Channel) ok thanks for the feedback, does it depend how experienced i am though, i wong b doing any crazy dropped on hi-ten, maybe a few 180, bunnyhops, and the odd ped grind, would that still ruin a hi-ten? Also this is a great channel, glad someone has started a community.
+Matthew Murphy Yes I does depend on it.. Hi tensile steel is perfect for that. When you get to a level of large drops and more than 180s than you should consider full chromoly..
I'm cromoly
Uhm there the same metal just different its hard to explain but one flexes and the other just cracks
Hi ten is just a name for what is commonly known as 1020 steel which is a relatively low carbon steel containing just iron and .2%carbon, that is it. Steel, by definition is anything that contains mostly iron but has carbon added.
Chromoly is known as 4130 although there are others. Its called chromoly because its a steel(iron and carbon) but with Chrome and molybdenum added. The carbon content in 4130 is also quite low at .3% but the alloying elemts greatly improve various measures of strength and durability such as ductility, ultimate tensile strength and fatigue strength as well as elongation, all properties that affect the "durability" of a bike frame.
The addition of carbon in steels is not always good, depending on what properties you want. Increasing the carbon content increases its hardness which increases its strength but lowers its toughness. For example, a high carbon bar will resist bending better than the low carbon bar but when pushed, may fail or break sooner than the low carbon bar which would more likely bend, see?
For example, many knife makers choose a high carbon content for their knives with a steel called 1095 which has .95% carbon. They choose it because the increased carbon forms more "carbides" ,the hard tiny things in steel or your knife that does the cutting and keeps it cutting longer. A sword maker would choose a lower carbon steel like a 1070 because a sword is long and needs toughness or the ability to bend before snapping and is not as hard, has less carbides and will not hold its edge as long due to this but needs the lower carbon so as to not snap if bent.
Solid! Thank you for adding all of that.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Cheers, not trying to come across as a smartass but its hard not to, eh?
Just that there is a lot of misinformation and confusion, especially on BMX forums regarding steel. I find it an interesting subject as I like both knives and bikes both use steel.
The best thing anyone can do is do a simple search and read up on it for themselves.Its can be kinda geeky but interesting nonetheless.
Also, a huge impact on how durable a bike is can be the geometry of the frame and the way the tubes are put together as well as their size and shape.
+schlooonginator That makes a lot of sense.. The geometry makes a lot of difference. Some of these points I leave out of videos because I feel I can make a whole separate video for some of these sub topics.
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Dude, I am not criticizing what you have pointed out I just wanted to help provide further information on the subject, that is all.
I completely understand, there is no way you are going to be able to go into depth on any subject.
I just want to let others know whats up because there is a lack of information out there. I am just happy you are raising the topic.
Your channel rocks.
Don't take my comments like some dis, it isn't. Just trying to further inform the viewers.
I just ordered a HARO PLAZA made out of chromoly, it's going to be the first decent BMX bike in my life. I used to ride when I was 8 years old, I'm starting again after many years (I'm 19 now). I used to have an aftermarket bmx that was heavy as fuck. I ordered this one this time: www.harobikes.com/bmx/bikes/2015-freestyle/plaza-2015 Could you give your opinion on the bike? I'm not an expert at all, and it has been a while, the bike looks good to me, but I need the opinion of someone who knows what he's talking about. Thank you in advance! And you got a new sub, great content!
+MERT AYDIN+MERT AYDIN I just looked at that new Haro Plaza! I'm really surprised actually... Haro stepped up their game for 2016. The bike comes with a female front Hub, 28tooth chainwheel with a half link chain, sealed cassette Hub & a Tripod seat. Really good buy man! To be honest it's a bike I would buy for myself. It's closely set up like my bike in the video... Hope you have a blast on it and thank you for the Sub!! Really appreciate it friend!
The BNC (Bmx News Channel) Thanks a lot for your opinion. It's nice to hear that I made the right choice.
+MERT AYDIN Is it lighter, mine is heavy as fuck too.
Caleb U W Yes it is lighter.