I have eight children by choice and I have had many both men and women ask if I haven't heard about birth control or if I had them because of religious reasons. A lot of people can't believe that someone would choose to have eight children. I have had my own business and it was very rewarding but not anything like my children.
@evadyck5663 As No. 6 of the family, I'm glad there are big families! It always amazes me people think they can say such things. A great part of a big family is all the built in friends!
So true. I haven’t listened yet, just saw the heading. 20 years in the workforce and then left , got married and had children…out of the workforce for the next 20 years. No regrets , it was by far the most fulfilling thing. I resisted the pressure to go back to work when kids were young. A stay at home Mum is often viewed negatively as if you’re nothing until you get back into the workforce. Shouldn’t be like that.
I haven't even started listening and I agree. Never got married or had children, not for a career but because it never happened. I have a good life but would have preferred to have a family.
This woman is married to an emotionally intelligent man who loves her. I have been a full time working , mortgage paying single parent since 23yo with my daughters father not participating financially nor emotionally and very little support from my parents. My elderly father was ill and passed away - my sister and I were tasked with his care. Now my elderly mother is ailing and it was expected my sister and I who continue to both work full time in our 60s to care for her while our favoured elder brother would inherit their estate ( it’s an ethnic thing). we both have needy adult children with issues and we are just exhausted . Enough said , I’m quite happy to not stay connected to my feminine caring / relationship side. Time for me.
This important topic will be taken for granted by those that need to hear it the most. When the ripple of its intention becomes a wave that can wash the shores of younger audiences from the vantage point of articulating dreams and discussing a plan, the entertaining the question or family can enter the dialog with the sobriety needed. I cannot recall any conversation between my mom and me where she asked to become a grandmother. I do recall passing comments from an aunt suggesting that I'd have a baby one day and so I shouldn't pierce my nipples - I don't have any piercings - but not one real conversation about romantic relationships, marriage, parenthood. I see they simply didn't have that language in their framework. This last year, I've encountered many folks between 19 - 25 and their attitude or belief of marriage, family is so far alway from anything that feels nurturing, meaningful or important. I was stunned to hear them speak about life this way. Reconciling all of these moments from my life, and mourning the family I wanted to have and sadly do not have, I wave a flag for the topic. At least have the conversation folks. Learn how to have the conversation and have it. Thank you, Tammy and Ester!
My Mother had to work at 15, and never stopped, got married , had 2 children and never stopped working, she was not a career woman, elementary education only. I think work fulfilled her more or in a different way that motherhood did.
I left my promising computer career in a big American company, I had 4 children. I didn't have much money but I was very rich in love. I have no regrets.
Oh man. All the hater comments. You know these ladies are spitting truth when they have so many haters 🎉 And to all the ladies talking about having to work: It’s about finding a Godly man. That’s why God works. If he isn’t biblical or faith focused, you probably aren’t going to find him following biblical rules…
I got lucky by pairing with a traditional Italian man. Once we had children, he did not want me working. There was no barrier or fight about it. He even made sure I was going to breastfeed. He was scared I would do formula. Lol. But his ex didn't even try to breastfeed. So it makes sense why he was nervous.
Here's a question against the age-old complaint -- HOW CAN YOU HOPE much less demand your husband be as Christ is to the church if you aren't doing WHAT YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER to be as the church should be to Christ?
@@RCGWho a good one... from coaching rowing I learned that in a double the stern rower is leading and the bow rower is more so steering... the best way to be in the necessary unison is not just to have a lead whos easy to follow but to be a faithful follower/match
Not anymore, men still constantly pressure their wives to go back to work. Even though we pick up gigs and financially contribute they still continue to pressure. What's a woman to do when they get a job the husband complains and when they are home without a job the husband complains?
Your husband is a beneficial adversary. Wives and husbands are meant to forthrightly tell the truth in the spirit of truly negotiating the best outcome for the family
I used to feel that way for most of my life. Then I had my daughter at 36. Suddenly, my life had purpose and meaning that I never experienced before. But I also had trauma to heal from. So I do believe that many women are traumatized in some way if they don't want kids. Or they have a life calling for something else, simultaneously turning into the old wise people we look up to.
Marianne Williamson said this. Contrast with a "spiritual" perspective: Williamson also suggests that marriage, when guided by the spirit, can be a transformative experience, fostering love, forgiveness, and personal growth. In this view, marriage becomes a space for supporting each other's evolution, rather than a prison.
After reading, "Experienceing God" the author created a flow chart on what happens to the Christian. In the fifth step, after someone hears God. They will have a crisis of belief. He will ask the ordinary person to accomplish something that cannot be done without him.
This all sounds wonderful in principle, but it doesn't always work that way. Not all childless women are that way by choice or for the sake of a career. You just don't always find the right man to have a family with. Plenty of men leave women after getting them pregnant. I feel there is not much content out there discussing how women can find meaning in their lives outside of motherhood and being a wife or grandmother. No, we are not men. So what do we do when we don't have that caregiver role in our lives to bring us fulfillment...
Not rubbish...but it is a discussion between two very privileged women. (And when I say privileged I mean personally rather than economically...although money often makes relationships very hard.) And it's true that many women may wish to follow this path, and has the rug pulled from under them.
@@anthonyhulse1248 yes I agree but we are in an economic situation globally where many women to not have that choice...most long to choose motherhood alone...maybe not most but many let us say. especially once they experience the gladiator Pit of the work force.
Thank you to these wonderful women.
I have eight children by choice and I have had many both men and women ask if I haven't heard about birth control or if I had them because of religious reasons. A lot of people can't believe that someone would choose to have eight children. I have had my own business and it was very rewarding but not anything like my children.
@evadyck5663 As No. 6 of the family, I'm glad there are big families! It always amazes me people think they can say such things. A great part of a big family is all the built in friends!
All the wealthy tech couples are having large families now days. Says something 😊
So true. I haven’t listened yet, just saw the heading. 20 years in the workforce and then left , got married and had children…out of the workforce for the next 20 years. No regrets , it was by far the most fulfilling thing. I resisted the pressure to go back to work when kids were young. A stay at home Mum is often viewed negatively as if you’re nothing until you get back into the workforce. Shouldn’t be like that.
Thank you so much. Shining through, the pair of you! ❤
I haven't even started listening and I agree. Never got married or had children, not for a career but because it never happened. I have a good life but would have preferred to have a family.
This woman is married to an emotionally intelligent man who loves her.
I have been a full time working , mortgage paying single parent since 23yo with my daughters father not participating financially nor emotionally and very little support from my parents.
My elderly father was ill and passed away - my sister and I were tasked with his care.
Now my elderly mother is ailing and it was expected my sister and I who continue to both work full time in our 60s to care for her while our favoured elder brother would inherit their estate ( it’s an ethnic thing). we both have needy adult children with issues and we are just exhausted .
Enough said , I’m quite happy to not stay connected to my feminine caring / relationship side.
Time for me.
Yes...these are the issues that were at the root of modern day feminism, and why we cannot just a swing towards some idyllic past.
I love the stories of your grandmother cooking with her hands ❤🙏 Thank you for sharing, it is beautiful Tammy!
Thank you Tammy 💗 your podcast is such a gift. This topic is so needed for me today.
This important topic will be taken for granted by those that need to hear it the most. When the ripple of its intention becomes a wave that can wash the shores of younger audiences from the vantage point of articulating dreams and discussing a plan, the entertaining the question or family can enter the dialog with the sobriety needed.
I cannot recall any conversation between my mom and me where she asked to become a grandmother. I do recall passing comments from an aunt suggesting that I'd have a baby one day and so I shouldn't pierce my nipples - I don't have any piercings - but not one real conversation about romantic relationships, marriage, parenthood. I see they simply didn't have that language in their framework.
This last year, I've encountered many folks between 19 - 25 and their attitude or belief of marriage, family is so far alway from anything that feels nurturing, meaningful or important. I was stunned to hear them speak about life this way.
Reconciling all of these moments from my life, and mourning the family I wanted to have and sadly do not have, I wave a flag for the topic. At least have the conversation folks. Learn how to have the conversation and have it. Thank you, Tammy and Ester!
Beautiful. Extremely beautiful comment.
Mentor the young ones, friend. Take your heart and experience and mentor the young ones 🎉
My Mother had to work at 15, and never stopped, got married , had 2 children and never stopped working, she was not a career woman, elementary education only. I think work fulfilled her more or in a different way that motherhood did.
I left my promising computer career in a big American company, I had 4 children. I didn't have much money but I was very rich in love. I have no regrets.
Jordan videobombing in the background at 2:17 😂😂
Oh man. All the hater comments.
You know these ladies are spitting truth when they have so many haters 🎉
And to all the ladies talking about having to work:
It’s about finding a Godly man.
That’s why God works.
If he isn’t biblical or faith focused, you probably aren’t going to find him following biblical rules…
I got lucky by pairing with a traditional Italian man. Once we had children, he did not want me working. There was no barrier or fight about it. He even made sure I was going to breastfeed. He was scared I would do formula. Lol. But his ex didn't even try to breastfeed. So it makes sense why he was nervous.
Great subject!!🩵🩵💚💚 Happy New Year, Tammy & Ester!!!
~J🩵🩵💚❤️💞
Here's a question
against the age-old
complaint -- HOW
CAN YOU HOPE
much less demand
your husband be as
Christ is to the church
if you aren't doing
WHAT YOU HAVE
CONTROL OVER
to be as the church
should be to Christ?
I've heard it this way: Love so well that you're easy to submit to; submit so well that you're easy to love.
@@RCGWho a good one... from coaching rowing I learned that in a double the stern rower is leading and the bow rower is more so steering... the best way to be in the necessary unison is not just to have a lead whos easy to follow but to be a faithful follower/match
Not anymore, men still constantly pressure their wives to go back to work. Even though we pick up gigs and financially contribute they still continue to pressure. What's a woman to do when they get a job the husband complains and when they are home without a job the husband complains?
Your men folk don’t have their faith or their priorities in a biblical order. They need to get right w God and be a man.
Pray and even fast if it is permissable with your health.
Your husband is a beneficial adversary. Wives and husbands are meant to forthrightly tell the truth in the spirit of truly negotiating the best outcome for the family
It's not for everyone. It's a prison like any other major life decision.
I used to feel that way for most of my life. Then I had my daughter at 36. Suddenly, my life had purpose and meaning that I never experienced before. But I also had trauma to heal from. So I do believe that many women are traumatized in some way if they don't want kids. Or they have a life calling for something else, simultaneously turning into the old wise people we look up to.
Being a Mother is a prison?
Marianne Williamson said this. Contrast with a "spiritual" perspective: Williamson also suggests that marriage, when guided by the spirit, can be a transformative experience, fostering love, forgiveness, and personal growth. In this view, marriage becomes a space for supporting each other's evolution, rather than a prison.
After reading, "Experienceing God" the author created a flow chart on what happens to the Christian. In the fifth step, after someone hears God. They will have a crisis of belief. He will ask the ordinary person to accomplish something that cannot be done without him.
This all sounds wonderful in principle, but it doesn't always work that way. Not all childless women are that way by choice or for the sake of a career. You just don't always find the right man to have a family with. Plenty of men leave women after getting them pregnant. I feel there is not much content out there discussing how women can find meaning in their lives outside of motherhood and being a wife or grandmother. No, we are not men. So what do we do when we don't have that caregiver role in our lives to bring us fulfillment...
Women of Impact is full of content for women of all walks of life. The host Lisa Bilyeu has been married for 20+ years and chose not to have kids. 😊
Find ways of nurturing like discipling or babysitting or mentoring or teaching classes etc.
$1k hospital bill and the Great Physician. 😮
Totally, Tammy Ma'am, could not agree more!
Up next, get M/s. Farhat Amin, author of Smart Single Muslimah, on!
Ugh, yes!
This is rubbish. Motherhood can be your career but all the forces can move together at the last minute to take your legacy away from you.
Not rubbish...but it is a discussion between two very privileged women. (And when I say privileged I mean personally rather than economically...although money often makes relationships very hard.) And it's true that many women may wish to follow this path, and has the rug pulled from under them.
Shit happens.
Motherhood is a vocation not a career.
Caring for others is the road to mental health and happiness.
@@anthonyhulse1248 yes I agree but we are in an economic situation globally where many women to not have that choice...most long to choose motherhood alone...maybe not most but many let us say. especially once they experience the gladiator Pit of the work force.
There’s always a choice.
@21stcenturyshowgirl That's the best choice of words used to describe the workforce I ever heard! "Gladiator pit"