$70 vs $2,300 Welder? Let's Settle This! Weld Strength, Duty Cycle, Current Output, Build Quality

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  • Let’s see if a $70 welder can outperform the more expensive rivals. It does indeed claim to deliver 200 amps of current, which is more than the $2,300 Lincoln welder. A big thanks to Joe for helping me test the welders for weld quality, penetration, current output and accuracy, ability to weld on rusty metal, and duty cycle.
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  • @ethermelt4780
    @ethermelt4780 Рік тому +3435

    Thank you, Joe! It's great to have an expert supporting what's already the best tool-testing channel there is!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +135

      You are welcome!

    • @rickjames2327
      @rickjames2327 Рік тому +44

      @@ProjectFarm looked on your channel but couldn’t find one. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough but a
      Video on silicone spray? Want to spray some on my suspension parts to stop squeaks. I see many brands but don’t know which is the best and last longest for the job. Thank you!!

    • @infiniti37G
      @infiniti37G Рік тому +9

      ​@@ProjectFarm I welled like a pro for years. I used a 220V gas Lincoln( and others) and its much better then the 120V HB Flux welder. The Lincoln welds smoother, hotter, thicker marerals, stronger welds

    • @Kawka1122
      @Kawka1122 Рік тому +19

      @@ProjectFarm hopefully Joe will never be substituted by Kuka robot run by GPT4

    • @fram1111
      @fram1111 Рік тому +4

      @@Kawka1122 🤣

  • @marklewus5468
    @marklewus5468 Рік тому +558

    I am a retired engineer, and I see a lot of people test things on UA-cam in dumb ways. Your channel is not one of those. Thanks for all of the effort that you put in to make these comparisons scientifically meaningful.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +18

      Thanks so much!

    • @teddysurf
      @teddysurf 10 місяців тому

      So here’s a question as a retired engineer would a true RMS clamp meter have been a better way to test the amperage?

    • @James1095
      @James1095 9 місяців тому +1

      @@teddysurf True RMS is absolutely mandatory for testing welder current, especially that of inverter machines. The meter he used is true RMS, albeit a cheap one.

    • @teddysurf
      @teddysurf 9 місяців тому

      @@James1095 is it a true RMS because most of the trms amp metes have “TRMS” printed on the meter and I don’t see it on this one? The reason I asked, is because I just bought a relatively cheap amazon Chinese welders and was in the market for a clamp meter and came across a video about true RMS vs average.

    • @James1095
      @James1095 9 місяців тому

      @@teddysurf I looked up the model number and the feature comparison chart on Amazon shows TRMS for that model. Is that accurate though? Who knows. Even if it is TRMS it's worth checking the specs because even most of those have limits on frequency and waveform so it still may not read correctly on an inverter welder.

  • @stevenpope
    @stevenpope Рік тому +410

    Your objective take and analysis makes you subjectively the absolute king and my go to source before buying anything. Don’t ever stop what you’re doing!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +31

      Thanks so much! Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!

    • @hankpoth9681
      @hankpoth9681 9 місяців тому +2

      Cpuldn't have said it better!

  • @82726jsjsufhejsjshshdjso
    @82726jsjsufhejsjshshdjso 9 місяців тому +135

    Other people have praised your scientific method but I’d like to add on the editing. As fast as possible to convey as much information as possible, while never being too fast. No time padding nonsense. Great stuff

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  9 місяців тому +5

      Thanks!

    • @mikechapman4767
      @mikechapman4767 8 місяців тому +6

      This is what I love about the channel. All meat, no fluff

    • @jsp9247
      @jsp9247 7 місяців тому +1

      Amen

    • @txrick4879
      @txrick4879 7 місяців тому

      Right some U tubers have a short attention span .

  • @refactorear
    @refactorear Рік тому +639

    Thanks Todd! Thanks Joe for making this testing much more precise and yes, we are all interested in a mig welder comparison!

    • @kenreynolds1000
      @kenreynolds1000 Рік тому +38

      100%. Appreciate bringing a pro who knows in use evaluations are as valuable as specs.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +39

      You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @aaronfield7899
      @aaronfield7899 Рік тому

      Ummm..... Why did Todd let Joe sponsor this video?

    • @JacquesDerderian
      @JacquesDerderian Рік тому +5

      I got myself a weldpro for around $300 the thing is a champ for mig I'd love to see how it matches up in a mig comparison!

    • @The_Establishment_Is_Satanic
      @The_Establishment_Is_Satanic Рік тому +2

      @@tuker384 🤷‍♂

  • @blueballs8
    @blueballs8 Рік тому +375

    Thanks Joe! Always good to have a pro's skills and opinions to help with specialized testing! Thanks Todd for having him help!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +22

      Thanks and you are welcome!

    • @joeboxter3635
      @joeboxter3635 Рік тому +7

      ​@@ProjectFarm Yes, it's good to have a professionals opinion on weld quality. The specs on how well the welds held is useful also. Nicely done.

    • @johnbouldin9033
      @johnbouldin9033 Рік тому +4

      Thank you Joe!

  • @jamieem37
    @jamieem37 10 місяців тому +178

    I don't usually comment on any videos, but I have to say I've been watching you for ages and I can't even put into perspective the amount of appreciation I have for your tests that are done as scientifically and fairly as possible. It doesn't even stop at just fair comparisons, the actual qualitative information you measure and document and condense and present it's just honestly, the pinnacle of content creation in my opinion. So much work goes into all of your videos and I know there's slim chance you'll see this but I love watching every single one when I get a chance. I've learnt a hell of a lot, so huge thank you 🫶 keep up the amazing work.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  10 місяців тому +13

      Thanks so much, will do!

    • @christopherrobin462
      @christopherrobin462 10 місяців тому +3

      Same your my number 1 channel I watch and recommend keep up the great work

    • @JA-zf8bg
      @JA-zf8bg 9 місяців тому +2

      couldn't say it better. thanks

    • @triktrak_1451
      @triktrak_1451 8 місяців тому +1

      Darn tootin'

    • @chrisjudge31
      @chrisjudge31 6 місяців тому

      Wonder about a cheaper Lincoln like FC90

  • @novarian_nexus4117
    @novarian_nexus4117 10 місяців тому +71

    It's great having a professional welder do the inspection. Makes for an even more thorough review. Thanks Joe we appreciate your input more than you can imagine.

  • @jimboreaddabible777
    @jimboreaddabible777 Рік тому +313

    What I love about your videos is that there is no long intro and fancy junk. You get right into what we're here for. The facts and the results.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +15

      Thanks!

    • @ObservationofLimits
      @ObservationofLimits Рік тому +4

      I know right?
      His videos are concise and to the point. No 10 minutes of rambling every other test and lots of useful charts

  • @charlesdalton985
    @charlesdalton985 Рік тому +310

    Thank you Joe for assisting in the testing. All of us out here greatly appreciate Project Farm and all the hard work that goes into this channel. ~ Chuck

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +13

      Thank you very much!

    • @TheGifted333
      @TheGifted333 Рік тому +20

      @@ProjectFarm You do know that you have the best educational channel on UA-cam right? Before I purchase anything for my shop, I always search for it on your channel to see if you've done a test comparison on that particular tool. You have literally helped out 10s of thousand of us men or more make the right decisions on what not to buy for our next project. Every guy I know watches your channel. Keep up the hard work Project Farm and thank you for all you do. P.S. THANKS JOE!!

    • @markloney427
      @markloney427 Рік тому

      Thanks Joe

  • @hughbrown1531
    @hughbrown1531 11 місяців тому +46

    I'm a hobbyist welder at the moment and this explains the issues I'm having with my cheap SMAW welder. I'm actually surprised how much of a difference there is. Thank you! Also, thank you to Joe for the expert POV!

  • @armandog.damato8193
    @armandog.damato8193 11 місяців тому +2

    That $300 Titanium offers an impressive bang for the buck deal.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @sheikreal
    @sheikreal Рік тому +209

    As a 20 years full-time professional welder who has always worked with big expensive machines like 5-10K$ Fronius/Lincoln/Miller, I didn't know that great "cheap" welders like the Harbor Freight Titanium were a thing. Another awesome video, and thanks to Joe! Subjective input from a professional on how the welders behave is invaluable.

    • @andrewarmstrong9194
      @andrewarmstrong9194 Рік тому +17

      I got a titanium mig welder for just over 500 bucks, this thing is the ticket for someone who does projects or small welding jobs

    • @_AndromedaGalaxy_
      @_AndromedaGalaxy_ Рік тому +7

      yes i have the same Titanium as in the video. not bad for a cheap stick welder. 480v machines will always be far superior.

    • @omisan771
      @omisan771 Рік тому +5

      Same here. I'm surprised such cheap machines can deliver that much.

    • @DZADangerous
      @DZADangerous Рік тому +4

      ​@@andrewarmstrong9194 I want to make my own smoker, would the titanium be good to use for that?

    • @Redneckemtb
      @Redneckemtb Рік тому +1

      100000😅

  • @JaredJanhsen
    @JaredJanhsen Рік тому +130

    Joe did great. Only a skilled welder can accurately do test pieces for a welder review. Many thanks to Joe for yet another great batch of product reviews.

  • @robromej
    @robromej 11 місяців тому +27

    I am definitely interested in seeing mig welders tested against one another.
    Miller, Lincoln, Everlast, and titanium as well as whatever other brands you see fit.
    Thank you for a great video!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  11 місяців тому +5

      You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @thecat6062
    @thecat6062 7 місяців тому +5

    Thanks to Joe for helping out. It's nice to see professionals working together to obtain accurate assessments of various products.

  • @MrGiXxEr
    @MrGiXxEr Рік тому +209

    As a life long Miller welder user, the Titanium line is fantastic for the price. Their duty cycles are usually better than the more expensive Vulcan welders too. Been running the Titanium multi process off 240V for close to 4 years now with almost daily welding and it just runs and runs never hitting the duty cycle or losing arc integrity at all. HIGHLY recommend!

    • @campbellpaul
      @campbellpaul Рік тому +9

      I'll have to check out that welder.. I wonder who they copied it from for it to be that good.

    • @MrGiXxEr
      @MrGiXxEr Рік тому +9

      @@campbellpaul Not sure. I know the comparable Miller is over $3k and only comes with the MIG leads, they make you buy the stick and TIG leads separate!

    • @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476
      @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476 Рік тому +5

      WOW!!: Experienced Pro's words are priceless!!.💪🥇

    • @Gary-tc7zx
      @Gary-tc7zx Рік тому +4

      I have the titanium 120 mig welder. Absolutely love it.

    • @campbellpaul
      @campbellpaul Рік тому +1

      @@Gary-tc7zx I hear the Titanium MIG 140 is good for 1/4" steel and doesn't trip 20a breakers.

  • @OneWhoWas
    @OneWhoWas Рік тому +105

    I think the channel can benefit greatly from some subject matter experts like Joe. Having the raw test data is a really good thing, however, having the thoughts and input from the experts can provide Insight that may not be measurable.
    Well done guys!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +9

      Thanks!

    • @doom0d1
      @doom0d1 Рік тому +4

      Yeah I second this as welders in particular are a bit of a difficult area to do unless a proper welder checks them out on the practical end. It was nice to see the testing show what is better for small projects and short welds.

  • @RLamb-gu2yh
    @RLamb-gu2yh 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you Joe! Project Farm is exceptional at giving solid real world results with the highest level of integrity. Thanks for bringing Joe on board.

  • @sebastianmeans5954
    @sebastianmeans5954 11 місяців тому

    Thank you Joe! I'm glad to see a professional help us understand the welds. Thank you Project Farm for showing everything without bias and linking the welders!

  • @timtimtimmay4654
    @timtimtimmay4654 Рік тому +99

    The Titanium surprised me all around when I picked it up last year. I’ve been nothing but impressed with their line of welders lately.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @ericmackison9517
      @ericmackison9517 Рік тому +5

      I bought the multi-process Titanium a few months ago and have been satisfied. It's very easy to get set up and arc welds great even on 120.

    • @Lesardah
      @Lesardah Рік тому +2

      I keep hearing that. I have an old ESAB I use for stick welding, and it's getting long in the tooth. Gonna check Titanium out!

  • @DullPoints
    @DullPoints Рік тому +113

    Joe's assessment was the vote of confidence these products needed. Exceptionally well done work on this video.

  • @sorendk1
    @sorendk1 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for helping out Joe, great job :) And thanks for yet another informative video PF 👌👍

  • @berrieds
    @berrieds 11 місяців тому +1

    Joe was super cool, thanks for helping out! It means a lot to see trusted source contribute to the channel.

  • @jskjsk3986
    @jskjsk3986 Рік тому +107

    Thanks Joe and Todd for bringing in experience when it was needed. Duty cycle kills cheap tools.

  • @tehpanda64
    @tehpanda64 Рік тому +61

    I love the segment with Joe. It's great to get a second opinion from such a skilled guy.

  • @simonbainbridge3507
    @simonbainbridge3507 10 місяців тому +5

    Thank you, Joe!!! You've hitched your wagon to the best YT DIY channel on the planet and it is much appreciated by the viewers. Trustworthy and unbiased contributions from professionals and master craftsman such as yourself see to it that everyday DIY folks can tackle projects safely without breaking the bank or wasting money in inferior and inefficient tools. MUCH appreciated.

  • @gerhardlesch3615
    @gerhardlesch3615 9 місяців тому +2

    I appreciate your honesty about your lack of welding prowess & getting in Joe for cool, expert analyses of welding results.
    Many thanks to Joe!

  • @K0Kaz
    @K0Kaz Рік тому +240

    Wow, Joe's welds using these cheap stick welders look a LOT better than a lot of people's TIG welds. Very Impressive!

    • @drumtwo4seven
      @drumtwo4seven Рік тому +5

      LIES

    • @xxtimo_titanxx7189
      @xxtimo_titanxx7189 Рік тому +4

      ​@@drumtwo4seven lies

    • @enderblazex2718
      @enderblazex2718 Рік тому +8

      @@drumtwo4seven Found the "pro" TIG welder.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +2

      Thanks!

    • @rickylee2477
      @rickylee2477 Рік тому

      Lol. You are crazy as hell. I’m not bashing on the man but none of those beads were anything to write home to mom and brag about.

  • @urbancornbread5500
    @urbancornbread5500 Рік тому +151

    Joe’s thorough, concise, and down to earth way of analyzing the welds is right on target. I’m about 5 years into Aerospace fabrication and design and I can tell you I wish I worked with Joe.

  • @EddieNanakase
    @EddieNanakase 10 місяців тому +6

    Wow, fantastic channel ! These are the tests that we want ! These videos are full of technical specs. The tests done, test more things than I would have imagined. The videos get to the point and don't waste time with filler content. I love your work, keep up the fantastic work !

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you very much!

    • @dannywoods3928
      @dannywoods3928 8 місяців тому

      Yes, no filler content is the best part. And so is the content. And so is the speed at which you are capable of coherently!

  • @joemehere1151
    @joemehere1151 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for helping out Joe and NICE WELDS!

  • @joemad4110
    @joemad4110 Рік тому +73

    Thanks Joe!! As a welding engineer, this was an excellent video comparing cheap welders to each other. Another test I would recommend doing for the MIG video would be welding for at least 4hrs with the welder at the highest settings. Some of those cheap welders give up after 2hrs of use with high current because their electronics are not meant to sustain high current for more than a few minutes at a time. Please do not waste the money on tool truck welders. They are rebranded Lincoln or Miller welders, with less features and less knowledgeable people to help troubleshoot them.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +3

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @OnceShy_TwiceBitten
      @OnceShy_TwiceBitten Рік тому +2

      With that said, if you are a simple hobby user, like you would only use it for a few mins at a time here and there, then its DEF worth it to save the money. You could buy several before you spend the amount on a higher end one.

    • @tjoenh4054
      @tjoenh4054 Рік тому +1

      @@OnceShy_TwiceBitten Been beating the heck out of my titanium 200 for a year now no issues

    • @Lesardah
      @Lesardah Рік тому +1

      Duty cycle would be a GREAT test! Good idea!

  • @chethaynes5802
    @chethaynes5802 Рік тому +22

    40 plus years as a professional Welder.
    You get what you pay for .
    Joe's high skill and experience was obvious.
    Great Report. Thank You.
    Valuable and Useful Information.

    • @erik_dk842
      @erik_dk842 Рік тому +4

      Correction: You rarely get more than what you pay for, but you often get less

    • @fs3994
      @fs3994 Рік тому

      It's also smart to buy what you need.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому

      Thanks!

  • @jeffjohnson3695
    @jeffjohnson3695 11 місяців тому +5

    Love the expert support structure and I love the channel. I've used this in research for at least 10 things including the motor oil series and fuel inject/carbon cleanup chemicals.

  • @bluebook6312
    @bluebook6312 10 місяців тому +5

    Thank you for giving us honest reviews and advice! You have definitely influenced my decisions. Also big thanks to Joe for coming out to give a hand. :D

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @ClinttheGreat
    @ClinttheGreat Рік тому +42

    I’m definitely interested in seeing a multiprocess welder comparison.

  • @JasonBoydston
    @JasonBoydston Рік тому +42

    I bought the Titanium over a year ago for fixing stuff around the house, tacking up metal fence and light repairs. So far it works great.

    • @onetwothree2617
      @onetwothree2617 Рік тому +4

      I got one of the titanium wire feeds cheep. Harbor freight is great for all the home gamers.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for sharing.

  • @patrickpowers806
    @patrickpowers806 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Joe! Awesome work. It is always great to get a professional opinion on things when needed. Hope to see you on here again

  • @alligatorguy101
    @alligatorguy101 11 місяців тому +1

    Joe. You are the savior this channel needs. We need full welder testing please my good sir!

  • @lmfinato
    @lmfinato Рік тому +35

    Definitely want to see the wire feed welders. It's a skill I am considering trying to learn. And a big thanks to Joe

    • @larrynason8716
      @larrynason8716 Рік тому +2

      Wire feed welding is not at all difficult to learn. In the past couple of years I had to learn wire feed aluminum welding for my job in auto body. At 65 it's a bit of an old dog new trick thing. If you can stick or gas weld you will find wire feed a piece of cake.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Рік тому +3

      Wire welding is a lot easier to pick up than stick welding is. The welder feeds the wire for you. You still have to do a bit of testing before you weld what you want to to get your settings good.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому

      You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @markthomas4083
    @markthomas4083 Рік тому +77

    Todd and Joe gave a professional test for us to learn from, great job guys!

  • @paulstewart9224
    @paulstewart9224 11 місяців тому

    Hey guys, Thanks to both of you! Joe it is clear you have expertise, which is both helpful, and, just nice to witness someone good at what they do!

  • @billmyette580
    @billmyette580 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, Joe for your help! And thank you, Todd for another great video!

  • @vinnys7514
    @vinnys7514 Рік тому +32

    King of UA-cam right here in my book. True dedication to the scientific method. No bs, no favor, just testing and brief synopsis. True craft.

  • @dooshlerd
    @dooshlerd Рік тому +80

    Joe helped this test really shine. It's so odd seeing the results actually reflect almost perfectly "You get what yoy pay for" because usually the only real standouts are the cheapest for being mediocre and the most expensive for being overkill for most people.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Рік тому +4

      I was surprised some of them lunch box welders did as good as they did. For what I do they'd be fine.

    • @Zanthorr
      @Zanthorr Рік тому +5

      @@1pcfred I have the Titanium flux core 125 and it's surprisingly good. If you have a small project that doesn't need 220amps they're perfect.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Рік тому +4

      @@Zanthorr I only tackle small projects. I'm not building bridges over here. I never need more than about 90 amps or so to do the welding I do. The last weld job I did I saved my garden cart rims. They were all rust rotted out. It came out OK. Was pretty thin metal I was working with. Replacing them would have been very expensive. I even patched up the steel tubes on it some. It'll be good for a while to come. I think I was running about 30 amps or so. I used really skinny electrodes too.

  • @oxylepy2
    @oxylepy2 10 місяців тому

    Great welds and great feedback, Joe! Couldn't have had such a quality video without you

  • @sweetlandsheatingcooling9039
    @sweetlandsheatingcooling9039 11 місяців тому

    Thanks to the both of you for testing and posting.

  • @joeno215
    @joeno215 Рік тому +54

    Thank you Joe, having you testing the welders definitely adds confidence to the testing. It's much appreciated.

  • @jsstuff1431
    @jsstuff1431 Рік тому +33

    I definitely want to see a stand-off between the multi-process machines!

  • @rocharox
    @rocharox 9 місяців тому +5

    Great job you two! Joe did awesome so I hope he comes back.
    I love your reviews!

  • @dannystubblefield5478
    @dannystubblefield5478 11 місяців тому

    joe your help with these test was much appreciated= thanks again

  • @KreemieNewgatt
    @KreemieNewgatt Рік тому +64

    Props for bringing in Joe. Good welding technique takes quite some time to acquire (I can vouch)

  • @mbrang00
    @mbrang00 Рік тому +164

    Joe, I just wanted to let you know how much i appreciated your help with this production. I myself dabble in the arts of metalwork and know well enough how difficult it can be to put yourself away to assist with an endeavor like this. your aid and assistance has proven to me and all of man kind that there is still a chance that humanity as we know it has not yet been lost. I love you joe.

  • @jesseespinoza3282
    @jesseespinoza3282 11 місяців тому

    Thank you both 🙏

  • @macklyn
    @macklyn 8 місяців тому +2

    The opinion of a professional welder is very valuable. Thanks Joe!

  • @bigclivedotcom
    @bigclivedotcom Рік тому +193

    Good thorough test. It's worth mentioning that the clamp meter has to be capable of measuring DC current with the clamp as many only measure AC current. Thankfully the DC clamp meters are much more common now.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Рік тому +5

      Yeah, the cheapest clamp meters you can find only do AC... I learned that by impulse buying my first cheap little clamp meter.

    • @jcclark2060
      @jcclark2060 Рік тому

      Not too mention that positive and negative have different functions between AC and DC.

    • @zendell37
      @zendell37 Рік тому +3

      Good to see ya, Clive!
      He's right! My RadioShack meter would do DC, but I found it hard to find others to do it at the time. Definitely something to keep in mind.

    • @Juppie902
      @Juppie902 Рік тому +5

      clive please make a house fire video from the components of the 70¥ welder

    • @smarts53
      @smarts53 Рік тому +4

      I'd like to see you dissect the blown welder.....or any of them for that matter.

  • @thomasodgers2768
    @thomasodgers2768 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for your input Joe .

  • @fingeraid7995
    @fingeraid7995 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank you both. I have been wanting to see the results of different welding machines. I can’t afford the Lincoln so the you both have been a great help. Again, thank you Joe for your professional help.

  • @cmdrclassified
    @cmdrclassified Рік тому +36

    Big thanks to Joe for helping out! I hope to see him again on future welder reviews!
    Great work as always, Todd!
    Have a great day! o7

  • @tuukka518
    @tuukka518 Рік тому +64

    Really good idea to have an outside pro so that there isn’t that much user error in the testing! You could maybe test different welding sticks.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +10

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @SethMethCS
      @SethMethCS Рік тому +2

      Test different brands of electrodes. I don’t know if the quality is standardized.

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect Рік тому +1

      @@SethMethCS It's not. The cheap electrodes have slightly different flux coatings and aren't nearly as consistent. Washington Alloy, for example, is much more difficult to run than the same Hobart electrode.

    • @connormcguire484
      @connormcguire484 8 місяців тому

      You’d have your work cut out for you. Lincoln makes about 13 different variations of 7018 alone lol

  • @benchacon4983
    @benchacon4983 11 місяців тому

    Thanks Joe! What an awesome job guys. I enjoyed it.

  • @HunterBgood
    @HunterBgood 11 місяців тому

    Thank you Joe. The extra insight was most helpful in understanding the weilders.

  • @MattLitkeRacing
    @MattLitkeRacing Рік тому +73

    Nice to see the mid range Harbor Freight welder doing well. They have stepped up their quality

  • @masonsmith7018
    @masonsmith7018 Рік тому +119

    As someone who has been welding for 8 years I think this was some quality information being put out. I’d love to see a battery powered 4 1/2 inch grinder test. I’m pretty sure you did a corded test some years ago but with the technology in batteries I think they are gaining popularity as an option

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +19

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @Blakehx
      @Blakehx Рік тому +1

      I keep looking at the Ryobi brushless angle grinder and die grinder but haven’t pulled the trigger yet!🤔

    • @masonsmith7018
      @masonsmith7018 Рік тому +1

      @@Blakehx I’ve been thinking about the Milwaukee cordless die grinder set because I have tons of those little batteries already. That price tag hurts to look at 😂

    • @Qthefun
      @Qthefun Рік тому +1

      I just got a Ryobi and love it

    • @joel89039
      @joel89039 Рік тому +1

      Agreed! Torque test channel has a couple but a big roundup would be great

  • @jmshssk2
    @jmshssk2 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Joe. As a self teaching amateur welder, its always a pleasure to watch a pro.

  • @johnpalmer5131
    @johnpalmer5131 11 місяців тому +1

    Great review and thanks to Joe for adding his SME. Think it is great you are collaborating with others to improve your videos and encourage you to continue this.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  11 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @drakecardin8567
    @drakecardin8567 Рік тому +38

    This is hands down the best channel on UA-cam. Thank you Todd and Joe for another excellent product test!

  • @collinsmith9941
    @collinsmith9941 Рік тому +21

    This is the best channel ever.
    There is so few, true honest reviews on real equipment available.
    Thanks Joe.

  • @johngoodspeed3585
    @johngoodspeed3585 11 місяців тому

    Thanks Joe! This was VERY informative! Much appreciated!

  • @davidroads419
    @davidroads419 7 місяців тому

    Thanks Joe! Great video, as always!

  • @jxtq27
    @jxtq27 Рік тому +83

    Thanks Joe! This is an amazing channel by itself, and with your expert assistance you've allowed it to extend into a tool I've wanted to see for a long time. It's clear that your skilled hands gave each of these machines its best chance, and it's enlightening to see how they stacked up. I hope you'll make another appearance :)

  • @RoamGaming
    @RoamGaming Рік тому +96

    As a community college welding instructor working i get asked all the time about what inexpensive welder i would recommend. I've generally suggested the Harbor Freight Titanium and Vulcan but it's nice to know that there are some even more inexpensive welders that are reasonable options. considering I own the lincoln 210mp it was nice to get a little bit of verification that my money wasn't completely misspent. :)

    • @andrewfowler1940
      @andrewfowler1940 Рік тому +3

      I also teach welding at a community College. I have a student who brought in a prime weld, it has CK accessories and I was rather impressed with how it welded for the price. If I had the money though, I would definitely buy the ESAB 205i, very impressed with that.

    • @Momoka7
      @Momoka7 Рік тому

      I just got a question, if I buy a welder and run it at 110 volt like from a normal garage outlet, a Welder will not melt the cables in the walls/trip the circuit breaker?

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @frenchonion4595
      @frenchonion4595 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Momoka7Not if the breaker is properly sized for gauge of wire. It will trip before it melts. 14 gauge wire needs a 15 amp breaker, 12 gauge wire a 20 amp breaker. You want bare minimum 20 amp circuit for a 110 welder. I got a titanium flux core welder that runs on 110 outlet and it works great

    • @nicholasmigliaccio9107
      @nicholasmigliaccio9107 Рік тому +1

      The breaker is there to prevent the wires from melting/killing someone. If the breaker matches or exceds the amps that said welder will pull then it wont trip it. Assuming it was wired properly the wires should be fine for the amp draw.

  • @InHotAz
    @InHotAz 6 місяців тому

    Appreciate you helping out Joe

  • @jesscollins1
    @jesscollins1 11 місяців тому

    Thank you Joe! Your evaluation was very helpful.

  • @ObliviousCrow
    @ObliviousCrow Рік тому +44

    I would love to see multi process welders tested, especially more budget options.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +6

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @drpoomanchu
      @drpoomanchu 9 місяців тому

      I 2nd this…!

    • @davebenedict7986
      @davebenedict7986 9 місяців тому +1

      Same here! I am also curious to see how MIG machines would compare welding aluminum...

  • @MotorCityMetalArt
    @MotorCityMetalArt Рік тому +80

    Great video thanks Joe!
    Its cool to see harbor freight performing well in these tests almost like they're actually paying attention to what their custimers want.

    • @chrisg1043
      @chrisg1043 Рік тому +3

      And the Titanium isn’t even top end.

    • @chadhowell1328
      @chadhowell1328 Рік тому +1

      The HF welders have been pretty good for a while. You’re right that they have been paying attn to what the customers want because they have been getting better and better.

    • @MotorCityMetalArt
      @MotorCityMetalArt Рік тому

      @@chadhowell1328 yep. I picked up the titanium 125 for repairs around the property and im really impressed with how it welds. Especially compared to the old AC Chicago electric 90 amp flux core welder.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому

      Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @kayak_homie
    @kayak_homie 10 місяців тому

    Great video! Thanks for the help Joe!

  • @davethewhitedevil
    @davethewhitedevil 8 місяців тому

    Thanks Joe for your professional advice.

  • @baileydbenson1
    @baileydbenson1 Рік тому +69

    Man, I'd love to spend a weekend in the shop with Joe. Great video presence and seemingly a great content expert.
    I loved this video!

  • @JeReMyIsMeNoTyOu
    @JeReMyIsMeNoTyOu 10 місяців тому

    Great job, Joe. We appreciate you!

  • @erniezelinka4836
    @erniezelinka4836 Рік тому

    Thanks Joe. Good helper and leader !

  • @TeddyYoung26
    @TeddyYoung26 Рік тому +46

    Nice work! I'd love to see a similar comparison for TIG welders in the future!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +6

      Great suggestion! Thank you

    • @tyray3p
      @tyray3p Рік тому +5

      @@ProjectFarm I second the TIG welding comparison, but also MIG welding. All the processes have differences and separate use cases and I'd love to see how different machines stack up.
      If you do another welder comparison, can you also include a higher end (like the Lincoln in this video) used welder? It's not uncommon to see used welders in the field and some people swear that older used welders (from reputable brands) can be just as good if not better than their newer, younger counterparts.

    • @gus473
      @gus473 Рік тому

      ​@@tyray3pHave heard that said too, so maybe it's like wrenches, sockets, and other tools that "ain't as good as they used to be?" 🤔✌️😎

    • @pokettomonsta
      @pokettomonsta Рік тому

      i agree o that

  • @ExcavationNation
    @ExcavationNation Рік тому +46

    My first welder was buzz box. I learned everything I could. I then moved to 70 dollar klutch. Bought the tig leads for it. Practiced every single day after work running beads up down sideways every direction. I would buy coupons to practice on from this metal supply company. After about 6 months I moved to a 2k dollar Everlast that does everything ac/dc foot pedal multiple settings saves(pulse/fade in/out etc)
    And id spent the next 6 months only running aluminum). I love welding and I'm 100 percent self taught 😎 you can do anything you put your mind too.

    • @daltondenun858
      @daltondenun858 Рік тому

      Are you now a welder as far as profession? I’d like to learn too but wondering if I should take a course, thanks!

    • @caodesignworks2407
      @caodesignworks2407 Рік тому +1

      Self taught, eh? No youtube videos, instruction manuals, etc...? I mean, kudos on learning, welding is one of the most useful skills to have. I took it in highschool all four years

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect Рік тому +1

      Why did you spend $2k on an Everlast? That's a lot of money for an off-brand welder.

    • @ExcavationNation
      @ExcavationNation Рік тому +2

      @@TehButterflyEffect I've never had a single issue with it I purchased it almost 5 years ago and it's fantastic.

    • @ExcavationNation
      @ExcavationNation Рік тому +3

      @@daltondenun858 noooo my friend I dig swimming pools. But I can fix anything if it breaks. If you want to become a welder for a job.. I'd definitely take courses. There's A LOT that self taught misses.

  • @MRP.Germany
    @MRP.Germany 7 місяців тому

    Thanks Joe for helping out in this test!!!!

  • @chrismayer3919
    @chrismayer3919 9 місяців тому

    Appreciate your help, Joe!

  • @alseidel5622
    @alseidel5622 Рік тому +17

    A thank you to Joe for his great effort to help PF. I look forward to a new test on MiG and TIG welders.
    Thank you PF for your great channel. The tests and methods are a real benefit for a home gamer like myself.

    • @brianhendricks5326
      @brianhendricks5326 Рік тому

      We are looking forward to seeing a multiprocess welder comparison also. Love to get Joe's input on that test as well. Thanks Brian.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому

      Thanks!

  • @sciguy2000
    @sciguy2000 Рік тому +22

    Great to hear from an experienced welder on these kinds of tests, really increases confidence in the results. Thanks, Joe :)

  • @davida1hiwaaynet
    @davida1hiwaaynet 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the comparison! I have always used Lincoln welders and have a 20 years old SP135 which still works amazingly for me. I laughed at the "plasma event" on the cheap non-protected Ssimder welder when it failed during the endurance test. Thanks to Joe for his welding assistance for this test!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  11 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @jonrowe1776
    @jonrowe1776 10 місяців тому +1

    this video is fantastic!! the two of you really did a great job on this. just wanted to say thank you. this is a huge help to me on making a decision on my next welder.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  10 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @TheKidFromYTown
    @TheKidFromYTown Рік тому +14

    Thank you Joe for participating in this testing and thank you Project Farm for all the testing you do.

  • @SeanCMonahan
    @SeanCMonahan Рік тому +103

    Thanks to Joe for providing his input on these welding tests! And even though I am not a welder at all, I'd love to see some comparisons of different types of welders, too!
    This channel is a fantastic resource. Whenever I need to purchase anything - hand tools, power tools, adhesives, pretty much anything - one of my first steps is checking whether Project Farm has a relevant video.
    TL;DR: thanks, and maybe someday I'll find a topic you haven't covered that I can suggest you test haha

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому

      Thanks!

    • @ognap
      @ognap Рік тому +1

      I'm glad I am not the only one who does this lol

    • @ljprep6250
      @ljprep6250 Рік тому +1

      @@ognap Oh, you're not, by far. ProjectFarm is the most concise, most well tested channel online, period. Todd does a fantastic job of it, and it shows. Thousands of folks swear by his findings and buy accordingly.

  • @schwinn434
    @schwinn434 10 місяців тому

    Thanks, Joe for your expertise on this matter!

  • @brunosbay7671
    @brunosbay7671 9 місяців тому

    Thanks, Joe, for your expertise.

  • @WoodLineWorker
    @WoodLineWorker Рік тому +87

    Project Farm videos are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna get. 🇺🇸

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +6

      Thank you very much!

    • @thecloneguyz
      @thecloneguyz Рік тому +6

      Every box of chocolates I've ever bought shows exactly what's inside on the side of it

    • @WoodLineWorker
      @WoodLineWorker Рік тому +4

      @@thecloneguyz I’m so thrilled to hear that.

    • @thecloneguyz
      @thecloneguyz Рік тому

      @@WoodLineWorker just like how rabbit holes are not very deep and crocodile holes are actually the deepest holes in the world

    • @WoodLineWorker
      @WoodLineWorker Рік тому +1

      @@thecloneguyz ain’t that something?

  • @calebcrossley8254
    @calebcrossley8254 Рік тому +45

    Thanks Joe for your professional help with this test.
    Todd, thank you for just solidifying yet again the validity of your channel. Your skills as a fabricator and designer are “very impressive” with all of your test jigs you fashion. But even with that, it is also very impressive to see you know when your limitations might hinder results. So instead of being to prideful and doing it yourself you call in an expert. Thanks for keeping this channel true and factual!

  • @hardway1746
    @hardway1746 10 місяців тому

    Thank y’all for what you do. It’s very helpful and informative. Many thanks. Shane.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  10 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @edrivera9793
    @edrivera9793 9 місяців тому

    Good job guys, thank you Joe.

  • @georgeorwell126
    @georgeorwell126 Рік тому +25

    That was a great idea to bring in a professional welder to help with the tests! Joe seems like a great guy!!

  • @subaraptor
    @subaraptor Рік тому +23

    Thanks Joe and Todd for a great video. Excellent idea to have a current tester with a cheap welder. You guys make a great team.