Are Expensive MIG Welders a Ripoff? Let’s Settle This!

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  • Опубліковано 23 вер 2023
  • 7 Welders: Vulcan (Harbor Freight), Lincoln, Yeswelder, Flameweld, Azzuno, Warcking and Chicago Electric. MIG welders compared for welds using both flux core and solid wire with shielding gas. Performance comparison includes weld penetration, weld strength, ability to weld very thin material, and current stability over 5 minutes. A big "thank you" to Virgil for helping test the welders!
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  • @AggressiveLemur
    @AggressiveLemur 8 місяців тому +2991

    Good God the amount you spent to test this is terrifying. Thank you for reliable and trustworthy work.

    • @JoeR203
      @JoeR203 8 місяців тому +67

      I'm sure he keeps the receipts and returns them after he's done filming.

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 8 місяців тому +121

      @@JoeR203 Doubt it, most probably wouldn't accept the returns, and he can always write these off as a business expense.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +593

      Thank you! 7 welders reviewed in a 15 minute video is a very challenging task. It'd be much easier to make a 1 hour video on all of the welders. Thanks again!

    • @TechGorilla1987
      @TechGorilla1987 8 місяців тому +192

      Nearly 3 million subs and UA-cam friendly, family friendly content. I'm guessing that he's doing okay.

    • @Buddy179
      @Buddy179 8 місяців тому +197

      @@ProjectFarmI would HAPPILY watch a 1 hour video

  • @thatshowvidu
    @thatshowvidu 8 місяців тому +770

    This guy is a national treasure. We are at a point where we just check his channel first for the review of what we're going to buy.

    • @virtusleather
      @virtusleather 8 місяців тому +50

      100%. Always always check this channel in the parking lot before I go in the store 😂

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +34

      Thanks!

    • @elcastorgrande
      @elcastorgrande 8 місяців тому +11

      @@ProjectFarm Todd, you are in first place...and then comes nothing for a long way.

    • @NobleNobbler
      @NobleNobbler 8 місяців тому +4

      legit

    • @dougr.6734
      @dougr.6734 8 місяців тому +9

      I'm just as guilty! I trust Todd's reviews 100%.

  • @AT_Automation
    @AT_Automation 7 місяців тому +79

    That wasp dying by a fiery pool of death was such a nice touch 🤌🏼

    • @haydenlewis8348
      @haydenlewis8348 2 місяці тому +1

      LMAOO I noticed it too ☠️☠️

    • @davemccage7918
      @davemccage7918 2 місяці тому +2

      10:48 That wasp had the same reaction I did when I did my first pass with the Vulcan welder! 🐝 👨‍🏭

    • @Dwigt_Rortugal
      @Dwigt_Rortugal Місяць тому

      A logical response from the insect. 🖖

  • @JonHullock
    @JonHullock 7 місяців тому +61

    NO.1 independent Product testing channel on UA-cam by far. These awesome product reviews are so in-depth you can take the knowledge and purchase these products with some of the uncertainty taken care of. I personally have bought different products after watching some of these reviews.

  • @chinaskibukowski7747
    @chinaskibukowski7747 7 місяців тому +781

    "I just went out and bought 7 different mig welders" Is the greatest opening line to a video of all time. The testing this man does is just absurdly good. Unbiased, fair and honest. That's why this channel is easily one of the best on UA-cam. Well done sir!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +43

      Thank you!

    • @cannednolan8194
      @cannednolan8194 7 місяців тому +14

      @@ProjectFarmno thank you. Us and our wallets would like to know. And your giving us this knowledge.

    • @russellbrazell7671
      @russellbrazell7671 7 місяців тому +9

      It's a great day when project farm and welders are together.A plasma cutter review would be great too. I got burned on buying a cheap plasma once and would love to see how the other ones stack up.

    • @jesserangel7035
      @jesserangel7035 7 місяців тому +3

      Best tool review channel. Very impressive!

    • @1nvisible1
      @1nvisible1 7 місяців тому +4

      *Five Stars! Cheap AC Tig welders next please! Everyone wants to weld aluminum!*

  • @genericinternetperson
    @genericinternetperson 7 місяців тому +272

    You know, it occurred to me while watching that this channel has probably the best community I've ever seen. Practically zero negativity, nothing but appreciative comments for all the work you do to keep us informed. Plus I found this one particularly entertaining, bringing in an expert for it. Project Farm just never lets you down.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +18

      Thanks so much!

    • @Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
      @Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 7 місяців тому +8

      Man you are so right! Now that you mention it I don't think ive seen a single negative/insulting comment on his channel yet!

    • @chiekowatson9288
      @chiekowatson9288 7 місяців тому +5

      Well said, sadly that's incredibly rare nowadays. Cheers 🍺

    • @ol_gunner5621
      @ol_gunner5621 7 місяців тому

      Just goes to show how dumbed down people have become. Let's leave America's best (Miller) out and be amazed by Chinese crap. And then you wonder why American wages are going down.

    • @kylerandolph79
      @kylerandolph79 Місяць тому

      Ya'll know why there are no trolls? Because most under 35 don't know their foot from their a$$h●|_€ when it comes to tools.

  • @TwiztidPain
    @TwiztidPain 7 місяців тому +170

    Honestly, as a welder I can take any of these welders and put them through their paces. You have your hobby welders then your industry welders. Respect for your honest review. It all depends what you need to weld.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +9

      Thanks!

    • @openroadtrucking6562
      @openroadtrucking6562 7 місяців тому +25

      Those aren't all hobby welders just because of their price. That Vulcan Welder is superior to all the welders from Miller and Lincoln that cost 5 times the price. More durable, more features, easier to get a better quality of weld, and better duty cycle. Miller and Lincoln are resting on their laurels from long ago. Just like shitty ass snap off tools.

    • @pl7868
      @pl7868 7 місяців тому +4

      live in Canada an worked production welding on the line for years an i have a cheap canadian tire flux core mig an for around the house it's all i need for 200 bucks on sale , dunno what the duty cycle is but it's yet to shut down so figure 100% an welds aluminum to so what do you want you going into business or welding an exhaust up with the odd body work , imo

    • @shaneholloway8877
      @shaneholloway8877 7 місяців тому +9

      I watched a video by deboss garage they tested a 75 dollar welder and it worked awesome

    • @SomoneTookMyName
      @SomoneTookMyName 6 місяців тому

      @@openroadtrucking6562 I weld every now and then. Actually use a Vulcan tig welder. Works pretty dam good. The one I have it the one Lincon was taking Vulcan to court over. Have met a few welder who prefer Vulcans over Lincons and Millers. Have also met welders who are vary biased towards specific brands.

  • @chaddiusthewise527
    @chaddiusthewise527 7 місяців тому +15

    I’m a 23 year old that doesn’t know much about anything. Your videos have taught me SO MUCH. It may not feel like it sometimes but you’re helping people every time you post. Thank you.

    • @terrell07981
      @terrell07981 3 місяці тому +2

      Keep learning man. Don't just watch videos but get hands on with stuff and do the work. It's the best way to learn even if you mess up. You will learn from mistakes.

  • @natologic
    @natologic 7 місяців тому +197

    I love the recent adjustment in your videos to frequently include expert opinions. Of course we trust your thoughts and experiments Todd - but bringing in experts like Virgil is the next level!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +18

      Thanks!

    • @7rixee
      @7rixee 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ProjectFarmdo you have a long list of video ideas? How about scour the internet forums a bit for the best homemade peentrating oil. I.e. Atf + acetone mix, brake fluid, etc. That could even be just a short form video.

    • @bryanhenderson8413
      @bryanhenderson8413 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, fantastic idea you have done to move to the next level!

  • @tjtobin86
    @tjtobin86 8 місяців тому +205

    I dont think anyone can deny the quality of Lincoln welders. But for the price, I love my Yeswelder. They are a company that was founded via kickstarter and have ALWAYS listened to their customers (via facebook groups, online reviews, etc). Thank you Todd for the testing!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +14

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

    • @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
      @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 8 місяців тому +3

      Their spare parts availability and serviceability . . .?

    • @elimgarak1127
      @elimgarak1127 7 місяців тому +1

      It's funny to me considering the issues I've had with Lincoln products. Especially the helmets.

    • @Motoko_Urashima
      @Motoko_Urashima 7 місяців тому +8

      I mean, I've always been team Miller when OTHER people buy them, I feel like they're nicer machines, but that's like saying you like Mercedes more than BMW when you drive an old Honda.
      I only have a tiny stick machine I got off Amazon.

    • @polaris675
      @polaris675 7 місяців тому +2

      Can deny the quality of lincoln welders when your workplace has standardized on them and you have to use them every day. My home miller, at less than half the price ($4k), comfortably runs circles around them. Inconsistent wire drive speed, nonsensical errors (such as "power supply not connected), and badly designed plastic parts.

  • @pipbernadotte6707
    @pipbernadotte6707 7 місяців тому +37

    Project Farm: we're gonna test that
    Manufacturers: **visible discomfort**

  • @friedpancakes266
    @friedpancakes266 7 місяців тому +28

    Nothing beats my grandpa's very old and very sketchy welder. Against all odds, 13 major hurricanes, and being thrown around by a tornado, it still works. Now that his workshop is being cleared out due to old age, i got to claim his immortal deathtrap and give it a loving home

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 4 місяці тому +2

      I’d bet it’s an old Lincoln 220 AC “Tombstone” welder. Indestructible!

  • @dandeerso
    @dandeerso 7 місяців тому +185

    By far my favorite part of your videos is the fact that you don't outright tell people which product to buy, and you just lay out the bare performance for people to make their own decisions from. Thanks for your efforts, Todd!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +24

      My pleasure!

    • @Goalsplus
      @Goalsplus 7 місяців тому +4

      Yes, an excellent trait.

    • @ALLOFTHEBOOST
      @ALLOFTHEBOOST 7 місяців тому +6

      Exactly. And doing what people recommend to do.

    • @Trent-tr2nx
      @Trent-tr2nx 7 місяців тому +4

      Yup. I really appreciate that there’s no agenda like “this is why you need to be spending $2000 on a Mig welder”

    • @rileyneufeld7001
      @rileyneufeld7001 7 місяців тому +5

      Yep PF realizes that what might perform the best might not fit the needs of the consumer the best. Just as a $200 welder might not have the best customer service/build quality for commercial use, a $2000 welder might not be used to its full potential in a consumers shop.

  • @Andrew-27
    @Andrew-27 8 місяців тому +291

    Over 2k $ for a welder!? Gotta appreciate the dedication and the quality Project Farm provides.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +11

      Thank you very much!

    • @CONEHEADDK
      @CONEHEADDK 8 місяців тому +16

      @@ProjectFarm If you haven't, TIG welders "next". I need one for my artsy fartzy stuff.

    • @electronicsandewastescrapp7384
      @electronicsandewastescrapp7384 8 місяців тому

      that's because it's your business. He laid out all this cash just to test them. @@Its_Captain_Jack_Sparrow

    • @MapleHillMunitions
      @MapleHillMunitions 8 місяців тому +5

      Andrew has never played with a fronius I see.

    • @sagebrushrepair
      @sagebrushrepair 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Its_Captain_Jack_Sparrow it's really wild how much technology has come huh. We've got a 90's Miller that set us back a TON. Now they can fit that into a $500 machine

  • @acguy661
    @acguy661 7 місяців тому +64

    If you mentioned it I missed it, but replacement parts and consumables are also important to consider when shopping for a welder. A better welder can be repaired instead of being disposable if something happens, meaning a better welder can be cheaper in the long run and nicer to use.

    • @John33gfed
      @John33gfed 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes!

    • @TyStone80
      @TyStone80 4 місяці тому +7

      The repair part is partially true, but the problem with the new inverter machines is, if a board goes out and it’s not under warranty then you may as well buy a new machine. So you can spend say $2500 on a newer Lincoln machine and fry it, or you could spend $1000 on a Hobart/vulcan/insert other “cheap” brand and fry it. Key is getting a machine that has a good warranty and take care of it. This is my view as someone who sells the red and blue machines for a living

  • @GumbootsOnBackwards
    @GumbootsOnBackwards 7 місяців тому +123

    I love these comparison videos! I would love to see a "is new really better?" type of series where you compared brand new units from retail vs used units from the popular used sites like FB marketplace and ebay.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +11

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @theodavies8754
      @theodavies8754 7 місяців тому +4

      Whenever realistic I choose pre owned but it's luck of the draw for how much life is left in it.
      If it was better by design it's still likely to be better than single use junk.

    • @k.h.1884
      @k.h.1884 7 місяців тому

      Neat idea. I imagine there’s so many variables with used products- if it’s been modified and how well it’s been maintained/treated, if it’s been abused, how much usage it has…

  • @WalterMelons
    @WalterMelons 8 місяців тому +29

    Just like the windshield repair test I like how you brought in an expert.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +7

      Thank you! The experts add a lot of cost to the reviews, but it's well worth it! Virgil did an amazing job!!

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 8 місяців тому +335

    I've run out of ways to say, the most comprehensive and best testing on YT, Thanks Todd. 👍🇺🇸

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +11

      I greatly appreciate it!!!

    • @therealmitch-a-palooza7262
      @therealmitch-a-palooza7262 8 місяців тому +5

      Hardly comprehensive. No Millermatic, let alone any Miller brand welder was included in this test. That's a huge oversight that renders this whole thing pointless, IMHO.

    • @billmccormick874
      @billmccormick874 8 місяців тому +2

      How did he know I needed a new welder???

    • @franktaylor7617
      @franktaylor7617 8 місяців тому

      ​@@therealmitch-a-palooza7262🤦

    • @terrell07981
      @terrell07981 3 місяці тому

      ​@@therealmitch-a-palooza7262he put the Lincoln in for that price range of welder. That would have cost another 2000$ for this video

  • @SvdSinner
    @SvdSinner 7 місяців тому +31

    I've got a different YesWelder model, but I think the results are indicative. It does a great job on most things and costs well below similar machines. Nice to see another model from the same manufacturer I am used to and how similarly they perform.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +4

      Thanks or the feedback.

  • @JunqueMale7
    @JunqueMale7 7 місяців тому +6

    I looked seriously at the Vulcan several years ago. At that time it was a DC welder only and not capable for AC to run aluminum. By the time I priced two Vulcans(DC unit and AC unit with MIG and TIG) with the necessary accessories to get what was needed they were within just a few hundred dollars of the Miller Multi-process 220 with everything included. Ultimately I bought the Miller. Every time I run the Miller the grin under my helmet is huge. It does everything I need and does it well == at a higher price point than any of the ones you tested. I have always subscribed to the "Cringe once - Grin many" method of buying tools. Having been a licensed and degreed aircraft mechanic for many years, as well as licensed in motorcycles and many versions of small engine equipment, this mind set has served me well if not not inexpensively.
    Having an expert welder to consistently run the units and give commentary was extremely helpful.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @AllThingsMech
    @AllThingsMech 8 місяців тому +206

    Thanks for another stellar review, Todd! As a welder with 25+ years of experience, I will say that what you get out of buying Miller or Lincoln machines is great customer support. Pick up the phone and a tech can walk you through a repair, or you take take it to a local dealer for service. Not so with the Chinese stuff. Had a problem with the control board on an Everlast PowerMTS 251 welder at my last job, and getting in touch with anyone was a joke. They emailed me a PDF that looked like it was drawn up by a 5 year old, and when I had a question about clarifying some of the ridiculous crap on their drawing I couldn't get anyone to call me back. I ended up leaving that position before we ever got a resolution on it.
    With welders, buy them cheap enough that when they break you just throw it away, or save up your money for something blue or red and keep it forever, fixing it along the way. There really isn't any middle ground unless you want to be constantly frustrated. My two pennies, anyway.

    • @ABeans07
      @ABeans07 7 місяців тому +14

      Funny, lately I've seen some of the Red and Blue customer and warranty work being very poor. Wrong parts installed... No offering support. It was the reason i ended up going a different route.

    • @mjremy2605
      @mjremy2605 7 місяців тому +13

      Well, you are paying for the tech support at $2250 vs $360. How many YesWelders can you buy for $360 for the price of one Lincoln? And its not like the worker in the US is getting any decent medical benefits like in Europe, either. We are paying workers here nothing but overcharging customers. What use is the tech help if the parts are another ripoff, eh? I'll get the Chinese one.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 7 місяців тому +4

      Great point. I've also had good luck with Hobart which is part of Miller. A lower grade but still made in the USA and affordable.

    • @johnharris7353
      @johnharris7353 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I retires from my production welding job with only 16 yrs experience. We used these huge millers. During all that time I managed to learn almost nothing!

    • @dandeerso
      @dandeerso 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mjremy2605 If you're just gluing stuff together, I can see your point, but I can also see from the video and my own experience in the machine shop I work at that those cheapo Chinese off-brand welders aren't going to pass any kind of certification.

  • @light-master
    @light-master 7 місяців тому +99

    Wonderful reviews as always. I love that Todd brings his knowledge of thoroughly testing products to welders, while also admitting that he's not skilled enough to test himself, so he gets a professional to do the welding and evaluate the results.

  • @stevedyndiuk99
    @stevedyndiuk99 7 місяців тому +10

    I went from the Harbor Freight cheepo welder to the YesWelder 205ds (also pretty darn cheap) I couldn't be happier with the Yeswelder. That being said, I bought the HF one years ago on sale for $89, and it always did what I needed, not elegant or clean welds but you can make 2 pieces one with it.

  • @ericreid1841
    @ericreid1841 7 місяців тому +17

    I'd love to see a comparison of portable solar power setups--the kind of thing that you could take camping or use at home when the power goes out. Thanks for all of your videos. Your testing is in a league of its own.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +2

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @crich1218
      @crich1218 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ProjectFarmGreat idea Ill second this one.

    • @sminton85
      @sminton85 6 місяців тому

      I’ll third.

  • @LiveFreeOrDieDH
    @LiveFreeOrDieDH 8 місяців тому +73

    Would love to see how each of the multi-process welders do with TIG and stick also!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +13

      Great suggestion! Thank you

    • @AbsolutionArmament
      @AbsolutionArmament 8 місяців тому +7

      I have the 220, it's nice, but the biggest annoyance is they didn't run the gas solenoid that the mig uses in tig mode, So it's pedal start but the gas has to be manually turned on and off. Like it's not bad considering the machine at all, but like it couldn't of been that hard to make the gas solenoid for both mig and tig.

    • @BMUU666
      @BMUU666 8 місяців тому +3

      I second this. Since they sell them as a feature, and increase the price as a result, it’d be good to see which ones really work.
      Doing automotive, I need to do Aluminum & Stainless at times.

    • @ProToolsApproved
      @ProToolsApproved 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes! I'd love to see the multi functions as well. I'll be purchasing a welder soon to learn on, having welding options is something I don't know if I need or don't need for my intended type of uses.

    • @rawbdiggity
      @rawbdiggity 8 місяців тому +4

      I have the yes welder it’s a great tig as well

  • @travisolander4749
    @travisolander4749 7 місяців тому +13

    10:47 the Vulcan did so well, even that wasp was going crazy dancing over the welds.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +2

      lol

    • @justingarver6056
      @justingarver6056 7 місяців тому

      I love watching them die a slow painful death the hell with wasps

  • @democratsaretheDEVIL
    @democratsaretheDEVIL 7 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for the time and honesty, i love the head to head videos.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @Longplay_Games
    @Longplay_Games 7 місяців тому +5

    I really love when you get subject matter experts to provide additional feedback. Awesome review!

  • @lukemeck
    @lukemeck 8 місяців тому +42

    This is why it's important to support one's like this that pays all out of pocket for these expensive tests the average Joe could never afford! Love the work, my dude!
    Love your hard work and enthusiasm in all your work!

  • @maxkonta6284
    @maxkonta6284 8 місяців тому +112

    I feel like you read our minds when you do all these tests; as always, I really appreciate the information contained in your reviews.

  • @nanachkh
    @nanachkh 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow - thank you for putting in all this work and cost for our benefit!

  • @davidshettlesworth1442
    @davidshettlesworth1442 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for this excellent video on welders. I also appreciate your welding expert's opinion on which welders did best on which type of metals. As always the in depth testing you do in your videos saved me a lot of searching. Carry On Sir!

  • @msnpassjan2004
    @msnpassjan2004 7 місяців тому +25

    My favorite part was when your test proved the professional's assessment correct. That was an awesome way to add legitimacy to the content. Really appreciate all you put into this video and for always inluding Harbor Freight !
    Haha, and yes, I am all about value, YesWelder for the win.

  • @rbalara31
    @rbalara31 8 місяців тому +23

    Would be cool to test welding helmets as well. I used to use Miller helmets but recently picked up a Yeswelder helmet, and for the price, can't beat it. I'd say its arguably the best helmet I've owned.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @bbmoti
    @bbmoti 7 місяців тому

    You just don't stop surprising. Thank for all the amazing work you do.

  • @devin2516
    @devin2516 7 місяців тому +3

    I really like how you brought in an “expert” to help with the review. I would love to see more “guest experts” in their respective fields as long as they can stay unbiased and open minded like you do. Love the videos! Keep it up!

  • @01B3000
    @01B3000 7 місяців тому +39

    As a gear head that rents shop space with a buddy, we’ve had a Vulcan 220 for like 5 or 6 years now, such a good value machine. It’s been going on flawlessly for the amount of use we do with it, for home garage work, it’s perfect

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @TickleFingers
      @TickleFingers 7 місяців тому

      I was thinking about picking one up someday. I have the Titanium Easy Flux 125 welder and that little thing surprises me. It performs well once you put some decent flux core in it. Great for small around the house things and small projects.

  • @gettingtheinsideout9683
    @gettingtheinsideout9683 7 місяців тому +18

    I asked for this video a little while back, and you completely delivered.
    From the bottom of my heart, thank you. I never knew what those smaller welders would deliver, and you definitely put a nail in that coffin.
    Once again, awesome video. 🙏
    Thank you. 💕❤️🙏

  • @nschluter8709
    @nschluter8709 7 місяців тому +5

    You’re awesome! Thank you for continuing to make amazing videos without selling out to sponsors. Great unbiased reporting!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @khensaninkuna6112
    @khensaninkuna6112 7 місяців тому

    Loved the comparative test…super useful and the expert opinion was an awesome touch.

  • @adailyllama4786
    @adailyllama4786 8 місяців тому +32

    Thank you for doing this video. Nobody has done this type of in-depth review of welders. The amount of time, editing, and cost to do this must have been insane. It definitely helped me make a decision.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +3

      Thank you for sharing!

  • @yoshisaidit7250
    @yoshisaidit7250 8 місяців тому +67

    0:20 Flameweld $189
    1:37 Chicago Electric $230
    2:36 Azzuno $252
    3:16 Warcking $260
    3:58 YesWelder 205DS $360
    4:34 Vulcan 220 $1150
    5:22 Lincoln 210 $2300
    6:02 Min current chart
    6:05 Max current chart
    6:14 Weight chart
    7:53 Weld penetration chart
    11:34 Force to break weld chart
    14:53 5min current draw chart
    15:03 Ranking chart

    • @gsantee
      @gsantee 8 місяців тому

      ^ Underappreciated Comment ^

    • @lohikarhu734
      @lohikarhu734 7 місяців тому +2

      it would sure be nice to find out what.other brands the lower-cost welders are sold under, especially for European subscribers.... has Todd ever checked how many non-North American subscribers are on the channel?

    • @bryans8895
      @bryans8895 7 місяців тому +21

      10:47 wasps worst day ever.

    • @lohikarhu734
      @lohikarhu734 7 місяців тому +1

      i listened to the comments during welding, and, i thought that the Azzuno was pretty well-rated, even better than the charts suggest...

    • @leaftye
      @leaftye 7 місяців тому

      ​@@lohikarhu734Agreed, but that list changes often, and as you noted, differs by market. There may also be slight, but significant, changes that might not be apparent in marketing pictures, especially since lots of the Chinese brands use renders instead of photographs. You could try using Google photo search since listings often use the exact same pictures.

  • @lawrenceengel3330
    @lawrenceengel3330 7 місяців тому

    Super impressed with this video! So much useful information across a wide array of applications. Thanks for doing this 👍

  • @entertainmentdudes
    @entertainmentdudes 7 місяців тому +3

    Stellar review as always! ❤ Your passion for this channel and finding the truth really shines.

  • @abdulrahmansalem8061
    @abdulrahmansalem8061 8 місяців тому +15

    thank you for the video, we reached MiG welders?! you really are stepping up your game.

  • @WeirdJerz3y
    @WeirdJerz3y 8 місяців тому +42

    My friend has owned the Vulcan welder for about 5 years. That thing is a beast. It was even flooded at one point and was let to dry well, and its still going strong. The automatic function is cool too, you put the type of wire and wire size and set the dial for metal type. It does a pretty good job at autosetting.
    Overall great video, cool to see how some welders are bad and sometimes its not the person welding badly.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +5

      Thanks! Thanks for feedback.

  • @deniskalugin7984
    @deniskalugin7984 7 місяців тому

    One of the top informative and useful channels!!! Thank you a lot!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @festerofest4374
    @festerofest4374 7 місяців тому +2

    Wow - if it were not for my appreciation about everything that Project Farm brings for tools and other things I'm sure I would not have watched this otherwise because I'm not in the welding realm.
    I have never welded in any form.. gasses or electric. I still really enjoyed learning a couple of things about welding, and very cool that there was a guest welder expert Virgil to help evaluate! Great, well thought-out testing, as always! What a channel!
    If I ever need anything welded I want Virgil to do the welding!

  • @pinos74667
    @pinos74667 8 місяців тому +28

    I would love to see a comparison on commercial pressure washers. As always, great video!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +6

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @EnvirotekCleaningSystems
      @EnvirotekCleaningSystems 7 місяців тому

      @@ProjectFarm Here is what you will find out. On gasoline units, all of them are lying about their ratings and it sucks, but that is just the reality of where the market has gone in the last 20 years. Plus you can't buy a "commercial" pressure washer from a box store, those guys are really FOS about their ratings. On electric units, they can't really lie because if they try to push a 10HP electric motor over it's ratings, it will either trip the breaker or burn the motor up. They don't sell commercial duty electric units at box stores either though.

  • @additudeobx
    @additudeobx 7 місяців тому +101

    I am not a welder Todd, but your tests taught me a great deal more than I knew about welding!! Thanks, Virgil, for the expert opinions.

    • @virgilmayfield7566
      @virgilmayfield7566 7 місяців тому +9

      Your welcome

    • @ol_gunner5621
      @ol_gunner5621 7 місяців тому

      Try "You're"@@virgilmayfield7566. I know, blame it on spell check.

  • @scottysutherland3568
    @scottysutherland3568 7 місяців тому

    This is an impressive demonstration. Thank you for putting this knowledge out in the world without being biased towards any company. Great work!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @johndii2194
    @johndii2194 7 місяців тому

    It is good you brought in a real welder to run the tests for you. Thanks Virgil. I think you deserve the welder you liked the best.

  • @TheRoadhammer379
    @TheRoadhammer379 8 місяців тому +8

    Todd, this was a phenomenal vid. Adding Virgil was a great move, I know it adds to the cost but thank you for the no nonsense reviews.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @TheMegaTheseus
    @TheMegaTheseus 8 місяців тому +12

    Thanks! That's exactly what I was in the market for. Now I just have to learn how to weld 😉

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +13

      Awesome! I'll put together a "how to" on welding if there's enough interest. Just let me know.

    • @noohairdontcare
      @noohairdontcare 8 місяців тому +3

      Me too!

    • @JoeTheDIY
      @JoeTheDIY 8 місяців тому +1

      I would love a step by step on how to use a welder, much of this is Greek to me. @@ProjectFarm

  • @brettjohnson9453
    @brettjohnson9453 7 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for this video, love learning about different things such as welding through your channel.
    The commentary from Virgil is really helpful, provides really good insights, especially when talking about how some welders just aren't suited to thin material.

  • @ModernSurvivalSense
    @ModernSurvivalSense 7 місяців тому

    Great vid. I'd love to see even more welders tested :)

  • @reverse_engineered
    @reverse_engineered 8 місяців тому +72

    Great work as always! I appreciate that you try both the cheap and expensive and compare them both head-to-head as well as taking into account their price. I don't expect a $300 welder to work as well as a $2300 welder, but if it can do a decent job for the occasional welds, then it's great for hobbyists like me.

    • @kennethhanes5438
      @kennethhanes5438 7 місяців тому +1

      The truth with welders is for diy and hobby the cheapest is as much of not more than you need as for the expensive ones you need to be an expert to make use of the added features because that who there for

    • @sirreus3003
      @sirreus3003 7 місяців тому

      I didn't. It worked well enough and better than most. Can't bet a Lincoln.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

    • @BType13X2
      @BType13X2 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sirreus3003 The Esab Rebel's are pretty good too. I've been a journeyman for close to 15 years now, used team red, and team blue. Have team yellow in my garage because they are close enough to miller or lincoln for my home use. I don't get all the features but enough of them and at a lower price. I also don't feel like I am welding with a piece of garbage either, that I am working around vs. just working with.

  • @Redrickson1
    @Redrickson1 7 місяців тому +35

    Keep up the great work! Not only are you unbiased and willing to test, but you're humble enough to bring in a specialist when testing products outside of your expertise and ability. Thank you for continuing to be among the great testing channels!

  • @luvmechanix
    @luvmechanix 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the test PF

  • @maggiepup3377
    @maggiepup3377 7 місяців тому

    Perfect timing. Thanks. As always very informative.

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab 8 місяців тому +14

    Todd, could you do a comparison of budget plasma cutters? I think many would be interested in this.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +5

      Great suggestion! Which brands would you like tested? Biggest concern is the cost of buying everything for the review, but I'll figure out a way to do it if there's enough interest. Thanks again!

    • @Farm_fab
      @Farm_fab 8 місяців тому

      I would like to see some that are dual input voltage, without onboard air, and aimed at consumer uses. Tooliom is one, Amico and maybe yeswelder.

    • @Farm_fab
      @Farm_fab 8 місяців тому

      A future video you could do would be to test refrigerated airline dryers, as these are most useful for plasma cutting, as well as spray painting.

  • @blazertracer1
    @blazertracer1 8 місяців тому +23

    A video on LED light bulbs be cool. Rate their light output, color temp and power use and reliability.

    • @otarsulava
      @otarsulava 8 місяців тому +5

      Great idea, used so many, some worked others not, on my 2 vehicles and motorcycle...

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +7

      Thank you for the video idea!

    • @UnderBakedOverEngineered
      @UnderBakedOverEngineered 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ProjectFarm
      If you do go this route: Waveform Lighting is pretty great.

  • @jwkjohnston7512
    @jwkjohnston7512 5 місяців тому +1

    I so enjoy your reviews. The thought alone you put into how you will do comparatives is fantastic. Thank you for your product reviews I trust the outcomes

  • @DouglasOYates
    @DouglasOYates 7 місяців тому +2

    As always, Todd, your approach is great and I very much appreciate this channel!!! I come here often for advise before purchases. As a longtime CWI looking to make a setup at home for hobby work, I was watching and trying to determine which machine I may want to get for my shop. Since I see them very often in plants, it is very hard to argue against Big Red except for the cost, but this was an interesting showdown. As I was watching, I was looking to see if the same brand electrode was used in all the machines. It seems the electrode provided with the machine is what was used. I would guess that choosing a quality electrode (for the intended application) when the first roll is gone will make a huge difference in the performance of each welding machine, as will the choice of shielding gas to match the selected electrode and application. Another difference noted during deposition was that sometimes the welder pushed the wire and sometimes he pulled. This will also make a difference in performance come testing time. Obviously the welder was trying to adapt to each electrode, so he obviously felt the need to push/pull to get the best performance, but again, using one brand of quality electrode to compare all the machines would probably been a better approach. One other consideration in my purchase will be availability of the consumables such as whip, liners, drive rollers, and tips. I think the Azzuno would be my choice from these, assuming readily and economically available consumables. Looking forward to more videos in the future. Thanks for the fine work!

  • @RANDOMNATION907
    @RANDOMNATION907 8 місяців тому +9

    Incredible , I just spent a day and a half comparing wire-feed welders on Amazon. I had actually pretty much decided that my needs the Azzuno would be right for me. This just confirmed it.
    And a huge Thank You to Virgil for his professional assistance in making this video. Well done guys.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @terryatkinson3182
      @terryatkinson3182 7 місяців тому +1

      When I buy something like this I know I can't afford the best one But don't want to buy pure shite that doesn't do what it says on the tin 😊
      Todd's opinion is where I start if he has a video on what I'm looking for 🤗👍🇮🇪

    • @om617yota8
      @om617yota8 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ProjectFarmMake sure you use the affiliate link in the description when you buy, helps Todd pay for this stuff.

  • @LS11971
    @LS11971 8 місяців тому +13

    Personally I have a Miller 210 with gun on demand. Spent $2000 and that was 20 years ago. Has been a great welder and have never had any issues with it. Would like to see a comparison of Tig welders which will probably be my next purchase. Really looking at the Primeweld for a midrange priced unit that still performs good. Would really like to see your comparison of this type of welders.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @TurdJesus
      @TurdJesus 8 місяців тому +2

      AHP Alpha TIG is probably the best for your money.

  • @danieltejeda1477
    @danieltejeda1477 7 місяців тому

    Great job! Thanks for this review, I'll keep hem in mind.

  • @thehartless101
    @thehartless101 7 місяців тому

    I recommend this a while back!! thanks for the amazing work!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      You are welcome! Thanks for recommending this video idea.

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 8 місяців тому +43

    Thank you Todd, especially for bringing on an expert. It was great to hear him speak as he was working. A real professional. Virgil...God bless you sir and thank you very much. EDIT: Side note. My father had a Lincoln stick welder that we used mainly 6013's for welding frames and such. I was taught to stick weld and did well enough for our purposes (Not pretty and my welds didn't break but they were not like a real pro). That was many (50 years ago) I'm happy to see that Lincoln still makes high quality welders despite the price.

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode 8 місяців тому +21

    Really impressive how good those value options are, but the consistency you get from the Vulcan and Lincoln Electric (not to mention the RANGE from the Lincoln) really demonstrate what you're getting for the price. Love the video, keep up the great work!

  • @jmtx.
    @jmtx. 7 місяців тому +14

    It would be great to have a comparison of 'chemical resistant' hand spray bottles. Ones I've tried advertise realizable and harsh chemical resistant mechanism, but things like brake cleaner or acetone can jam or cause leaks.

  • @TriCountyMotorsEastman
    @TriCountyMotorsEastman 7 місяців тому +8

    I have a 250 hitbox welder I got off Amazon during a lightening sale for about $200. I am very happy with it and it does good. I wouldn't recommend it for a professional who uses it every day but as a back up for them or a hobbyist type welder it is great. I use it restoring cars and can use it all day a times welding in body panels or even welding in a mustang ii front end conversion

  • @aaronneher4860
    @aaronneher4860 8 місяців тому +31

    I am a welder and have been for a decade now. Favorite test so far. I personally have a Lincoln electric 200 Tig welder and it really is a fantastic little machine ESPECIALLY for a 110 capable unit. Expensive stuff for a beginner but a good addition to a mechanic shop.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому +3

      Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

    • @theweldor757
      @theweldor757 7 місяців тому +1

      You are a Weldor ! You operate a welder ! Er is the machine . Or is the operator . Its not operater , its operator . Or is the operator ! Rock on !

    • @aaronneher4860
      @aaronneher4860 7 місяців тому +4

      @@theweldor757 ok you got me on a technicality lol I’m a welder operator. You are the second person in my entire life to correct me on that

    • @dennisrobinson8008
      @dennisrobinson8008 7 місяців тому

      I can make stacked dimes welds with it on stainless steel?

    • @theweldor757
      @theweldor757 7 місяців тому +1

      @@aaronneher4860 im 60 brother 😳. In the 80s before the all mighty computer . If you went to the library like we had to do . The literature clearly stated we are Weldors . Its just one a them things that didnt get passed on to the internet 😒😒😒😒
      Its the first thing i teach new helpers ! Be safe brother !

  • @acconboy
    @acconboy 7 місяців тому +13

    I discovered yeswelder about 3 years ago and have 2 of their machines now - the dedicated Arc (arc 205) and the muti process tig205. Less than 400 for both together and they are amazing on both performance and quality. Have done everything from sheet metal to the frame on my daughter's car and they just keep chugging along. For the money, they are one of the best shop purchases I have made

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @brucefranklinjr.8543
    @brucefranklinjr.8543 7 місяців тому +1

    One of the best channels on here! Thanks!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!

  • @jorgep.2033
    @jorgep.2033 7 місяців тому

    Long time waiting for this test. TY

  • @Asta-wl8jz
    @Asta-wl8jz 8 місяців тому +5

    This is exactly the video I was looking for. I've always wanted to learn to weld.

  • @ProjectShopFl
    @ProjectShopFl 8 місяців тому +16

    Great video! I've been running a Lincoln weld pac 140 HD 110v for 6 years. Not only has it paid for itself but I've done jobs that should have been done with a bigger 220 welder and you cannot beat the portability with flux core wire and ease of use. Keep up the great work!

    • @sirreus3003
      @sirreus3003 7 місяців тому +1

      Amen brother. Mine is about 30 years old.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing! Thanks, will do!

  • @Puma_Punku84
    @Puma_Punku84 7 місяців тому +12

    I really appreciate enormously what you are doing for us, whom do not have the money to test all these different types of brands. Words cannot express how much I appreciate and am grateful for your time and efforts making these videos!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +2

      Thanks so much!

    • @Puma_Punku84
      @Puma_Punku84 7 місяців тому +1

      Your welcome so much!!! I also thank you for the others whom appreciate it too!

  • @jamesstobaugh
    @jamesstobaugh 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video Todd! 😊

  • @Membwayne
    @Membwayne 8 місяців тому +22

    It seems like getting both a Yeswelder and an Azzuno for $612 might be a good strategy. Use the Azzuno for light gauge welding and the Yes for heavier stuff. Seems like the only downside would be breakage strength on heavy materials. I always check out your tests before I buy a new tool. No disappointments so far. Thanks!

    • @AdministrativeReload
      @AdministrativeReload 7 місяців тому +2

      The Yeswelder will run fine on thin gauge if you use the solid wire and shield gas. Flux core wire is better suited for thicker material.

    • @sirreus3003
      @sirreus3003 7 місяців тому +2

      Buy a Lincoln 140 for $800 and you only need 1. Using mine for about 30 years.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      You are welcome!

    • @richtes
      @richtes 7 місяців тому

      If the welder is going to sit on a cart connected to the gas tank two welders would seem a pain. Would probably have a spool in each too.
      Have the Primeweld Tig225 which seems a good machine and am tempted by the reviews I’ve seen of their $550 mig

  • @My20GUNS
    @My20GUNS 8 місяців тому +38

    Excellent video. As a welder I appreciate your diligence and careful testing.

  • @christopherlowery855
    @christopherlowery855 7 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for the sheet metal pen tests. As someone who works in automotive, too much penetration and heat is always a concern when working with custom exhaust and body work. Tack welding controls heat well, preventing warping, but it is nice to have the option to run a full bead without turning your body panel into a lays potato chip.
    I didn't see any destroyed welders in this video, and I heard tig welding mentioned. In case it isn't in your plans, I would be interested to see a tig and stick welding comparison as well.
    Great content as always.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @Ubergibson0
    @Ubergibson0 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for always providing thorough unbiased reviews. You're the MVP!

  • @ThacMan
    @ThacMan 7 місяців тому +13

    Thanks Virgil & Todd for the video. Excellent work. Not many UA-cam reviewers willing to spend this much of their own money for a truly unbiassed review.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @ProToolsApproved
    @ProToolsApproved 8 місяців тому +7

    A welder purchase is in my very close future, mainly to teach myself how to weld on small home owner type projects. I'll be referencing your videos heavily when making my purchase. THANK YOU for your consistent HONEST reviews. Truly a gem of you tube. The best if there ever was one.

  • @darklichny
    @darklichny 7 місяців тому

    Another great video! Thanks for putting in the work.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @thedevildick1
    @thedevildick1 7 місяців тому

    Great video Todd, thanks!

  • @Kumquat_Lord
    @Kumquat_Lord 8 місяців тому +7

    The flux core test is great because thats what most home consumers will use.

    • @MadLadsAnonymous
      @MadLadsAnonymous 8 місяців тому

      Because it's gasless?

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  8 місяців тому

      Great point! Thank you

    • @Kumquat_Lord
      @Kumquat_Lord 8 місяців тому +2

      @@MadLadsAnonymous yep. Most hobbyists won't want to buy a massive gas cylinder

    • @cheetoman23
      @cheetoman23 8 місяців тому

      @@Kumquat_Lord You can buy 1 cubic foot cylinders at nearly every welding supply store and many farm stores

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 8 місяців тому +7

    Wow, you spent a small fortune in order to make this video! As always, your testing videos are top notch and MUCH appreciated. Thank you!

  • @FasterBastard1
    @FasterBastard1 7 місяців тому

    Really good choice getting the experts involved 👌

  • @nickpalmer5826
    @nickpalmer5826 7 місяців тому +2

    100% best Chanel on UA-cam. Thank you for your dedication my friend

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @DXT61
    @DXT61 8 місяців тому +4

    I have a Vulcan 220. Had it for 3 years and it has been a great welder. I also have the spool gun for it. For comparison i also have a Miller 255 which is much more expensive. For short circuit and hobby welders i highly recommend the Vulcan. I can't run dual shield in it like my 255 but short circuit it's great. It can also stick and DC tig but i have only used the stick,mig and spool gun for aluminum.

  • @resurgam_b7
    @resurgam_b7 7 місяців тому +9

    I really appreciate seeing an expert/professional in some videos. You do an excellent job devising and carrying out most tests, but nobody knows everything so it's great that you bring in someone with experience to review products that you might not be able to give a fair test.

  • @TheGadgetwiz
    @TheGadgetwiz 2 дні тому

    I wanted to skip to the end, but you put so much time in making it, I could put in the 15 minutes to watch the entire video.

  • @Cargozen
    @Cargozen 7 місяців тому

    Amazing and truthful information second by second, it just doesn't get better than this!!!

  • @TB-ki1ux
    @TB-ki1ux 8 місяців тому +18

    Quality content as usual, thanks PF!

  • @michaelbradford4444
    @michaelbradford4444 8 місяців тому +5

    I Purchased my (Yeswelder Stick ) after watching you test a few months ago and I'm very pleased with it. Love these videos where you test the welding machines!

  • @Kampf0r
    @Kampf0r 7 місяців тому

    Great with a subject matter expert to help with the test!

  • @drkies
    @drkies 7 місяців тому

    Great job bringing in the expert!