Alex O'connor! His 1 on 1 convos with D have been great but are mostly Alex prodding Steven in an interviewish format. Bridges would be more naturally conversational and adding Kyla would make for a cool dynamic, considering Alex's rhetoric style.
@@Daddyoh94 i dont like the sound of Audio being speed up or slowed down though. + i usually watch his movies, so having the rest of it lag would be annoying too 😆
It is a superpower. One common among folks who can read very quickly. Which is also why it’s hard for them to NOT talk quickly. Trying to slow down your regular reading speed is a rough equivalency. V tricky.
Google-de-wiki. Wiki-de-googled. Hmm I'll work on that. Can I morph great googly moogley into it? It's probably a little difficult to discern targets when instead of wearing military uniforms in a military environment, people wear street clothes and hide in civilian homes.
@@cegesh1459 mmmm i love some watermelon. i love eating watermelons. but it's so heavy, once i tried to carry a watermelon home and it dropped onto the ground and splat :(
Googledebunkers? I was googledebunkers once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with facts, and facts make me googledebunkers... Googledebunkers? I was googledebunkers once...
I'm a professional archaeologist with a PhD (so part of "big archaeology" ;) ) and I very much appreciate what Milo does. Milo is a very good communicator of archaeological information, which most archaeologists aren't. So I can point non-archaeologists towards his channel. He also takes the time to break down pseudo-archaeology in a way that I don't have the time or patience to do. Which is great. And he's just entertaining. As to the credentials, archaeology has that too, but there is also a long history of working with avocationalists in the field - at least in some regions. It wouldn't hurt if Milo went for a masters or a PhD, especially if it was for his own benefit, but he'd have to find a program that let him keep doing what he's doing and that would except his current work as a resume and a basis for course work. There are probably a number of archaeological professors out there that would make something like that work for Milo, based on the number that appreciate what he does on forums.
@@UNINOIZ3 Sorry for jumping in here, but pseudo-archeology is basically posturing as performing the work of an archeologist while not following the methodology of archeology. Graham Hancock, for example, does this when he posits fringe interpretation of archeological data that come about without adhering to the proper methodology. At least that's what I've gotten from listening to some smarter folks than me talk about it here on UA-cam
@@UNINOIZ3 it's basically the same idea as any pseudo-science, just specifically as it pertains to archeology. Pseudo-science being the process by which you start with whatever you'd prefer to be true (whether that's for political, religious, financial, ideological, or simply personal reasons) and then twist and cherry-pick evidence to make it suit that conclusion. This is of course the opposite of science, where you start with your evidence, then test and follow it to whatever conclusions it may lead to.
I thought it was very interesting when they spoke about anxiety, putting stuff in your body.... meanwhile the girl is 10000% taking too much Adderall. Ppl who need that medication don't speak like that, the opposite effect should occur
Maybe the best guest so far. Milo was fucking *sharp,* and Destiny's finally found someone else who also talks at 2x speed. The flow from topic to topic was also really smooth, whereas with some guests it was like, "Ok cool... Sooo next topic."
I'll never forget the day my father said, and i quote, "I'm not a flat earther. I'm a globe skeptic." ...I've never been at a loss of words before till that day.
@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix yeah something like that, but honestly, if he's already willing to be a "globe skeptic," he should just fully commit to one and wear that badge of stupidity with pride
If he's such a skeptic why not just research or test if the earth is or not flat? If some wanker in greece managed to do that a couple millenia ago with some sticks surely he can get off his butt and see it for himself
My dad hides it from me but always references flat earth and various conspiracies as if it was solid truth accidentally around me. I try not to fight it since he hides it to start with but man. It's true, you fall for one conspiracy you fall for many more
Thanks for all you do! I’m currently on my journey of leaving pseudoscience and history behind. Being a life long conservative, it’s been rough coming to slowly realize that my alt right views were based on clever lies. However, the truth matters and the pursuit of it led me here, so I will not waste this opportunity to turn my life around. Thanks and God bless!
@@mrcontrarian1416 funny, I was a raging leftists until around trumps first election, between him making his country better and Justin Trudeau making mine extremely worse made me quite conservative.
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
XQC has been a secret genius this whole time. Everything he’s done has been part of a 4D chess game that goes so far over our heads it just looks dumb to us.
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
I am very skeptical of conspiracy theorists. But what I am even more skeptical of is people who deny or downplay the existence of conspiracies. Here is a little list which is by far not comprehensive. Am I really supposed to believe that humanity changed and there suddenly are no conspiracies anymore? I call BS on that. Here is the list (not even fraction of what was confirmed as true): Tuskegee Syphilis Study (1932-1972, U.S.): A U.S. government study where African American men with syphilis were deliberately left untreated, even after penicillin became available, to observe the natural progression of the disease. MKUltra Program (1950s-1970s, U.S.): A secret CIA project involving unethical experiments on mind control, including the use of LSD and other drugs on unwitting participants, aimed at developing methods of brainwashing and interrogation. Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964, U.S.): A reported attack on U.S. naval ships by North Vietnam, which was later found to be either exaggerated or misrepresented. This incident was used to justify U.S. escalation in the Vietnam War. Operation Mockingbird (1940s-1970s, U.S.): A covert CIA program designed to influence media by recruiting journalists to spread pro-American propaganda and shape public opinion during the Cold War. It was revealed in the 1970s. Nayirah Testimony (1990, U.S./Kuwait): A false testimony before the U.S. Congress by a Kuwaiti girl, "Nayirah," who claimed that Iraqi soldiers were taking babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait. This testimony helped build public support for the Gulf War but was later revealed to be orchestrated by a public relations firm and connected to the Kuwaiti royal family. Operation Northwoods (1962, U.S.): A proposed U.S. government plan to stage terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and blame Cuba to justify military intervention. Though never carried out, the plan was declassified. Lavon Affair (1954, Israel): A covert Israeli operation where agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian buildings, hoping to frame the Muslim Brotherhood and strain Egypt’s relations with Western powers. Iran-Contra Affair (1980s, U.S.): A secret U.S. operation involving the illegal sale of arms to Iran and using the profits to fund Nicaraguan Contra rebels, which was exposed in the mid-1980s. COINTELPRO (1950s-1970s, U.S.): An FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, and discrediting domestic political groups, including civil rights activists and anti-war organizations. The Business Plot (1933, U.S.): A conspiracy by wealthy businessmen to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt and establish a fascist regime. The plot was revealed by General Smedley Butler. Project ARTICHOKE (1950s-1960s, U.S.): A CIA program that explored interrogation techniques and mind control, including the use of drugs like LSD, similar to MKUltra.
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack.
Which though most don’t understand can be gotten for free from the authors directly as they want it more read, but it’s the publishers who want to make money off the archive they publish.
@@TheTechnoPilot exactly this, when you find an interesting paper, contact the authors and they'll be delighted to send it to you for free. They're not getting a penny of the money the publishers demand.
I’m a HUGE fan of Open Communication - Open Source code, Open Hardware, Open Game Licenses, and that extends to scientific communication. Without freedom of information and freedom of research, myths and urban legends flourish.
@@Techno_Idioto oh, yeah, I can see reasons why “how to build a nuke in 1,000 easy steps” is not Open, but research on most areas of science that don’t pose physical harm to others? Especially things like software hacks and such, they need to be open, because if they aren’t, the vast majority of companies are predisposed to just ignore them unless they’re public, as has been historically proven.
Much of this conversation is very aware of the dichotomy of the modern internet, we simultaneously have every piece of knowledge available but absolutely no comprehension of it
@KaiRedeker And a master of none will often have less knowledge on particular topics , the quote needs to be rewritten as generally a generalist is better but those generalists often need the aid of Master of a Niche.
Although it isn't actually the original quote. It was extended only in the 21st century, not shortened over time like "When in Rome" or "The proof is in the pudding".
To see people having a rational discussion is a complete shock to my system. You guys exist? Amazing! To find anyone to have a rational conversation with is getting harder. I've pretty much given up on the idea.
One of the best videos I think I've ever seen. I've been a fan of Milo for a while so I was extatic to see a 2 hour podcast recommended to me. Having listed to all of it, I can say that this trio works so well! Everybody had such unique perspectives and ideas that came together wonderfully. I can't believe the chemestry and the density of information in this video. Definitely need more of this!
A relative got a chain email in the early 2000s saying that Obama had said something dreadful in his book, with quotes. I had the actual book. I found the actual quote. The email had deleted key words, like "not" and replaced a pronoun with a fake antecedent, changing the entire meaning of the quotation. My relative refused to look at the book or compare the quote. He informed me, "I do my own research!" In a very snotty voice. I was like, "What research? Your quote is a lie. Research is done." A decade later, he was still posting the fake quote on Facebook. I still posted the correct quote, which I then had to interpret for the other doofuses on his FB feed.
@@swickens930 I’m not a bot moron and they did talk about his non credentials and how he developed a following and how he started in his field. You’re a bot.
@swickens930 I think it's more likely that you perceived a political view opposing you and immediately stopped listening for thesis and started looking for more points you subjectively disagree with. Counterpoint is a veteran 40k channel with a lumberjack sense of fashion and a beard. When the bots start growing beards it's time to leave the internet.
@@Lightwolf_VR What a vague bullshit response. They literally didn't talk about Archeology in the first 40 minutes of the video. So idk what bot program counterpoints is running but the original comment is actual bullshit. Please list the detailed archeology topic that they talked about within the first 20 minutes of the video
Whenever I see a random paper cited to support a strong assertion on the Internet: You think this paper just fell out of a coconut tree? It exists in the context of all in which it lives and what came before it
I once climbed a coconut tree and found every tree on the island had been stripped bare. Another passenger had apparently washed up on shore the night before, collected all of the coconuts, and squirreled them away.
@almightytallestred I think it's pretty obvious that was meant, and it's that Hancock was saying that there's a trend where historical finds thought to be of a certain date later have discovered evidence that indicate that they're older than previously thought. And frankly, to a point he's correct.
Something I didn't notice at the time was in school whenever we would get an assignment to write a research paper or a persuasive essay we always got told to choose our position, THEN find research to back it up. I ended up going to multiple schools across the country due to being dragged around by a military family and every school I went to had that order of operations. The "Do your own research" crowd is doing the exact same thing, and usually have roughly the same level of credibility with their sourcing, and it's a method that encourages laser focusing sources that agree with you and ignoring anything that disagrees. Also we should start complaining that pseudoscientists are silencing mainstream academics just to see how the free speech absolutists on twitter respond
It's a very good point: I think my schooling was a bit more "liberal" in that sense: read first; conclusion after. But it's the way too many (including but by no means limited to the pseudo community's leading lights) still approach "research": here's my conclusion, now let's find some stuff to back it up. It's a terrible approach to any study: sure, we all come at a question with our preconceived notions, but the point is to test them, and if necessary to be our own debunker before someone else spots the flaws.
Kids will not bother with the assignment if you give them no starting point in which they are invested. Choosing your position and then working to try and support it is going to be far more productive in a learning sense. Give them stakes and force them to support that world view, and they will research. Its not ideal, but you're asking far too much of a child, you'd be asking too much of an adult. They are not bought in to the assignment unless their bubble or world view is threatened by not engaging with it. After they've learned information literacy, then go the next step. They can be challenged on why they select certain sources etc.
@@firstandlastname6194 What may seem easier may not be right: in this case it has the potential for enormous damage. Learning needs to involve leaving our preconceptions behind, otherwise we've learned nothing. And sometimes there's just no "right" or "wrong" position to be had, there's only uncertainty - something that both kids and adults need to grasp.
@@firstandlastname6194 That's all the more reason to invite pupils to do the fact-finding and reasoning before they come up with conclusions: picking a ditch to fight for too easily becomes a lifelong habit.
@@mrflappie6553 it is turtle, not tortoise, so it does not stand on anything, it's swimming through space. No one knows where it is heading, except A'Tuin itself.
Archaeologists support their own. Resoundingly people across the field are all impressed and happy because it’s been hard for us to focus on outreach when there’s reports to write, grant funding to apply for, fieldwork & research to do and in the cultural resources management end of archaeology, theres highway surveys to complete. All of these things and more in working archaeology doing archaeology are a hindrance to taking the time and effort to do outreach. Caught in our own bureaucracy. We’ve needed this and having an UA-cam personality like Milo has helped.
some of my favorite Milo episodes are the Bagdad battery saga, with the actual expert who specialized in that region and time period. it was so wonderful.
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack.
@@peewee0224 it does for sure. But not sure how much D is interested in Archeology. Probably more about the debunking the fake Archeology stuff. If that's the case I hope they get Professor Dave explaines on for the same reason.
I'm not. Milo is completele misrepresenting the issue here. The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
The Atlantis myth is not of r word origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for r word theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as r.... in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack.
I am very skeptical of conspiracy theorists. But what I am even more skeptical of is people who deny or downplay the existence of conspiracies. Here is a little list which is by far not comprehensive. Am I really supposed to believe that humanity changed and there suddenly are no conspiracies anymore? I call BS on that. Here is the list (not even fraction of what was confirmed as true): Tuskegee Syphilis Study (1932-1972, U.S.): A U.S. government study where African American men with syphilis were deliberately left untreated, even after penicillin became available, to observe the natural progression of the disease. MKUltra Program (1950s-1970s, U.S.): A secret CIA project involving unethical experiments on mind control, including the use of LSD and other drugs on unwitting participants, aimed at developing methods of brainwashing and interrogation. Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964, U.S.): A reported attack on U.S. naval ships by North Vietnam, which was later found to be either exaggerated or misrepresented. This incident was used to justify U.S. escalation in the Vietnam War. Operation Mockingbird (1940s-1970s, U.S.): A covert CIA program designed to influence media by recruiting journalists to spread pro-American propaganda and shape public opinion during the Cold War. It was revealed in the 1970s. Nayirah Testimony (1990, U.S./Kuwait): A false testimony before the U.S. Congress by a Kuwaiti girl, "Nayirah," who claimed that Iraqi soldiers were taking babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait. This testimony helped build public support for the Gulf War but was later revealed to be orchestrated by a public relations firm and connected to the Kuwaiti royal family. Operation Northwoods (1962, U.S.): A proposed U.S. government plan to stage terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and blame Cuba to justify military intervention. Though never carried out, the plan was declassified. Lavon Affair (1954, Israel): A covert Israeli operation where agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian buildings, hoping to frame the Muslim Brotherhood and strain Egypt’s relations with Western powers. Iran-Contra Affair (1980s, U.S.): A secret U.S. operation involving the illegal sale of arms to Iran and using the profits to fund Nicaraguan Contra rebels, which was exposed in the mid-1980s. COINTELPRO (1950s-1970s, U.S.): An FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, and discrediting domestic political groups, including civil rights activists and anti-war organizations. The Business Plot (1933, U.S.): A conspiracy by wealthy businessmen to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt and establish a fascist regime. The plot was revealed by General Smedley Butler. Project ARTICHOKE (1950s-1960s, U.S.): A CIA program that explored interrogation techniques and mind control, including the use of drugs like LSD, similar to MKUltra.
The reason that sites such as those in Turkey are not all completely excavated, catalogued, and set up for public tours is not simply that scientists are "waiting for future technologies", but also out of basic manpower and logistics. Southeast Turkey has numerous sites representing the approximate period of Gobekli Tepe. The process of doing responsible and professional archaeology on each site takes a lot of time, money, and competent experts. This slows the excavation process down significantly.
The Atlantis myth is not of r word origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for r.... theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as r.... in order for people to think it's icky.
I am very skeptical of conspiracy theorists. But what I am even more skeptical of is people who deny or downplay the existence of conspiracies. Here is a little list which is by far not comprehensive. Am I really supposed to believe that humanity changed and there suddenly are no conspiracies anymore? I call BS on that. Here is the list (not even fraction of what was confirmed as true): Tuskegee Syphilis Study (1932-1972, U.S.): A U.S. government study where African American men with syphilis were deliberately left untreated, even after penicillin became available, to observe the natural progression of the disease. MKUltra Program (1950s-1970s, U.S.): A secret CIA project involving unethical experiments on mind control, including the use of LSD and other drugs on unwitting participants, aimed at developing methods of brainwashing and interrogation. Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964, U.S.): A reported attack on U.S. naval ships by North Vietnam, which was later found to be either exaggerated or misrepresented. This incident was used to justify U.S. escalation in the Vietnam War. Operation Mockingbird (1940s-1970s, U.S.): A covert CIA program designed to influence media by recruiting journalists to spread pro-American propaganda and shape public opinion during the Cold War. It was revealed in the 1970s. Nayirah Testimony (1990, U.S./Kuwait): A false testimony before the U.S. Congress by a Kuwaiti girl, "Nayirah," who claimed that Iraqi soldiers were taking babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait. This testimony helped build public support for the Gulf War but was later revealed to be orchestrated by a public relations firm and connected to the Kuwaiti royal family. Operation Northwoods (1962, U.S.): A proposed U.S. government plan to stage terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and blame Cuba to justify military intervention. Though never carried out, the plan was declassified. Lavon Affair (1954, Israel): A covert Israeli operation where agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian buildings, hoping to frame the Muslim Brotherhood and strain Egypt’s relations with Western powers. Iran-Contra Affair (1980s, U.S.): A secret U.S. operation involving the illegal sale of arms to Iran and using the profits to fund Nicaraguan Contra rebels, which was exposed in the mid-1980s. COINTELPRO (1950s-1970s, U.S.): An FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, and discrediting domestic political groups, including civil rights activists and anti-war organizations. The Business Plot (1933, U.S.): A conspiracy by wealthy businessmen to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt and establish a fascist regime. The plot was revealed by General Smedley Butler. Project ARTICHOKE (1950s-1960s, U.S.): A CIA program that explored interrogation techniques and mind control, including the use of drugs like LSD, similar to MKUltra.
As a person who was around before 2016, it's weird someone saying that right wing reactions is caused by cancel culture when cancel culture is just what right wing people have been doing since time immemorial, and particularly cancel culture was a reaction to Gamergate, the ultimate cancel culture moment
Thankyou. Exactly what I was thinking.. She is very misinformed about that woman hate movement. Even Bannon admitted he used it to radicalise young men. In came the RU bots as well. It set the stage for the new version happening now. (Woke, cancel culture etc) blah blah
This is my first time listening to this podcast, so maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that entire segment felt very 'enlightened centrism' to me.
As a Ukrainian who existed before 2014 I can also say that this ENTIRE culture war thing is literal russian psy op. This isn't about Ukraine, russian people wanted a war with the West and putin managed to persuade them that by making Americans fight each other they're "winning a war with NATO" (zero people here think they're fighting Ukraine, they claim it's Western troops from Poland, France and USA, BTW).
After reading "How Emotions are Made" I am somewhat convinced that the reason people can't get out of these conspiracy holes is simply that it is too costly for them. The required energy to change your mind is too great. It can be done, but it must be energetically beneficial to do so.
@@TwoPointDuck It's also a quasai-form of Stockholm syndrome I think. If anyone admits that they were wrong, it means they're actually the bad guy in this whole thing especially if they spew hyperbolic rhetoric. So for instance, Destiny absolutely hates Trump. He thinks Trump wants to rule the world and we should do everything we can to stop him. But because he's a popular influencer, well now a bunch of his viewers also hate Trump. Two assassination attempts and 4 years of violence later and.... Well that HAS to be Trump's rhetoric that caused that because if it isn't, that means it's Destiny's rhetoric, or people like Destiny. Oops. People weren't violent because they were misled into thinking Trump is Hitler, no no of course not. It's because Trump actually IS Hitler of course... If Destiny is actually wrong about his beliefs, that doesn't just make him wrong. It makes him the same as the people he claims to hate. It would mean that he's the bad guy and it would make him responsible for the division that exists in America. Not only would he be wrong, but he'd actually be the problem lol, and seeing he's super popular, that would make him a big problem. That's suicide juice right there
This could not have come at a better time, I've been religiously watching every single video miniminuteman has made for the past month. AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL CONVO, THANK YOU.
I love that kayla is part of this podcast, she has great chemistry with destiny and guests, often asking great questions and referencing guests content
I agree! Kyla is incredibly good at bridging gaps in the conversation when Steven and the guest don’t know where to move the conversation. She’s an absolute beast in this podcast and I’m very thankful for such a grounded and ambitious content creator.
She needs to reduce the "like" in her conversation. I realize that it's a feature of the younger generation but it's distracting in this context. And, to be fair, Milo is guilty of it to a lesser degree.
It's Kyla aka NotsoErudite aka Erudite aka "The woman who does my other podcast". I'm pretty sure she's the showrunner as well as Stephen's final anchor to this mortal plane lol
This was a great episode. I just straight up watched it instead of putting it on in the background. The conversation looped a little bit every now and then but the overall flow and vibe was excellent. Kyla also did an excellent job of moving it along with some good questions.
Loved seeing Milo in longer form content. Mostly only see his shorts/ tiktoks so hearing him get to speak on something for extended periods of time is amazing.
Amazing to see these two talking! I love to see content creaters speaking to people outside of their environment, but seeing the connections between them.
It's very big of Milo to admit being in the Alt Right pipeline. I also followed those circles. Then I grew up and was challenged by my own beliefs vs the alt right
Milo and the hosts are living proof that the world will be in good hands. I’m in my late 40s and have never understood why old people crap on the newer generations. I vowed a long time ago to never do that. That’s extremely disrespectful and makes the old person that casts such aspersions look like an imbecile.
@@diezl101 historical revision colloquially speaking is used to describe the revision of historic events, without a scientific but an ideological apprach. For example holocaust revisionists say things like: "the gas chambers had wooden doors, so the nazis didn't kill any or just a few jews. If any change in the viewing of history would be called historic revisionism that term is kinda useless, as any historic work practices that at some point.
Do you know why the real archaeologists and historians whondebunk this stuff fail to handle them? It is very obvious to identify their own biases. Not a single one among those I follow on youtube made a video about the historical revisionism of the black Cleopatra in the Netflix "documentary". They don't touch anything that they see a right winger would touch and might reflect bad on them. Basically they are spineless. Stuff that the archaeologist from the previous podcast (don't remember his name) said are red flags for many people so they will ignore him about everything. I don't think he even realized how he lost them.
A question for the EDITOR. The color grading in the beginning is absolutely gorgeous. Why not keep it the whole episode? You could maybe remove the halation, so it doesn't look too processed. However i personally think it looks amazing. A note for when it comes to lighting the podcast. Using negative fill behind the camera, on the left, and right side would create a really good shadow on Destiny and the guest's face. Which would make a really dynamic and professional looking image. This camera already looks amazing. Color grading and negative fill would make this perfect.
You'll save yourself a lot of stress when you understand that in most cases: The myth, the cult, the lie, the "mistake" are the *point*. In most cases the illogical idea or belief is not something they accidentally fell into, but something they wanted to believe in first, and then defend it from there. Also, the political overlap is no accident. There is often an agenda behind the myths and nonsense and you should deal with even the silliest ideas that have a fervent following as propaganda and not mistaken, misinformed beliefs.
1:11:02 my dad and his friend were literally looking at this exact guy with this exact ‘footprint’ and being like “WOAHHH this is CRAZY it’s PROOF” and when they called me over to see I spent the entire time going “so the evidence… is that it _looks like_ a footprint. watertight proof, certainly” and then they get upset at me for ruining their fun 😭
That's always the rub. They aren't mad at the misinformation or at the guy lying to them; they're mad at you for ruining the illusion, for making them feel like a fool.
I've been a fan of Milo for a since this past spring. He is an absolute joy to listen to; props to Kyla for having him on. Keep fighting the good fight Milo!
1:35:03 The Higgs-Boson was first theorized in 1964, and the idea behind it is really awesome. A team of scientists studying these sub-atomic interactions saw a void or interaction they couldn’t explain and knew they didn’t have the tech to figure it out, so they set it up for the future by looking at what was known and could be accounted for, and then quantifying the unknown, and then saying “hey there is a particle that we can’t measure that we think interacts with these things in this way,” and once we were like “hey we can smash these particles together so damn fast and hard that we should be able to measure these theorized interactions and particles,” and we were right on some of those ideas. Which is exactly how science should - and usually does - work.
What guests would you like to see on future Bridges episodes?
Pirate Software
I would love to see Dan Carlin, host of Hardcore History, but maybe that's a bit unrealistic lol
John Plant
Alex O'connor! His 1 on 1 convos with D have been great but are mostly Alex prodding Steven in an interviewish format. Bridges would be more naturally conversational and adding Kyla would make for a cool dynamic, considering Alex's rhetoric style.
dr. k, egon cholakian, cenk uygur, ana kasparian, vaush, asmongold, benny morris, kamala harris, mark cuban
Milo less "talks fast" and more "talks like he prepared a speech beforehand and is delivering it perfectly", man has truly maxed out charisma.
as a foreigner.. I would like for him to talk a bit slower.
UA-cam has playback speed control
@@Daddyoh94 i dont like the sound of Audio being speed up or slowed down though. + i usually watch his movies, so having the rest of it lag would be annoying too 😆
It is a superpower. One common among folks who can read very quickly.
Which is also why it’s hard for them to NOT talk quickly.
Trying to slow down your regular reading speed is a rough equivalency.
V tricky.
@@Ph33NIXx guess we have some catching up to do
The Google Debunker and the Wikipedia Warrior together at last
You mean the genocide defender
Google-de-wiki. Wiki-de-googled. Hmm I'll work on that. Can I morph great googly moogley into it?
It's probably a little difficult to discern targets when instead of wearing military uniforms in a military environment, people wear street clothes and hide in civilian homes.
So are you a hater of both? I'd imagine someone who believes Israel controls the world probably doesn't like conspiracy debunkers.
@@cegesh1459 mmmm i love some watermelon. i love eating watermelons.
but it's so heavy, once i tried to carry a watermelon home and it dropped onto the ground and splat :(
@@DrownedLamp9 take your meds
Googledebunkers? I was googledebunkers once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with facts, and facts make me googledebunkers... Googledebunkers? I was googledebunkers once...
They locked me in a room...
A rubber room...
A rubber room with facts...
Yo 👋
I was googlebunkers once but then they changed what google was. Now what I'm debunking isn't google and what is google seems new and scary.
I'm a professional archaeologist with a PhD (so part of "big archaeology" ;) ) and I very much appreciate what Milo does.
Milo is a very good communicator of archaeological information, which most archaeologists aren't. So I can point non-archaeologists towards his channel.
He also takes the time to break down pseudo-archaeology in a way that I don't have the time or patience to do. Which is great.
And he's just entertaining.
As to the credentials, archaeology has that too, but there is also a long history of working with avocationalists in the field - at least in some regions.
It wouldn't hurt if Milo went for a masters or a PhD, especially if it was for his own benefit, but he'd have to find a program that let him keep doing what he's doing and that would except his current work as a resume and a basis for course work. There are probably a number of archaeological professors out there that would make something like that work for Milo, based on the number that appreciate what he does on forums.
Can you explain what you mean by pseudo-archaeology? Like what would be an example of that? And why do you find it exhausting to break it down?
@@UNINOIZ3 Sorry for jumping in here, but pseudo-archeology is basically posturing as performing the work of an archeologist while not following the methodology of archeology. Graham Hancock, for example, does this when he posits fringe interpretation of archeological data that come about without adhering to the proper methodology.
At least that's what I've gotten from listening to some smarter folks than me talk about it here on UA-cam
@@UNINOIZ3 It's anytime someone makes a claim about ancient civilizations and such with no evidence.
This makes me happy to hear, I hope he can keep getting better or further in the field!
@@UNINOIZ3 it's basically the same idea as any pseudo-science, just specifically as it pertains to archeology. Pseudo-science being the process by which you start with whatever you'd prefer to be true (whether that's for political, religious, financial, ideological, or simply personal reasons) and then twist and cherry-pick evidence to make it suit that conclusion. This is of course the opposite of science, where you start with your evidence, then test and follow it to whatever conclusions it may lead to.
"There are assholes in every group and sometimes they're scientists and right now they're you" goes SO HARD
I will probably use that burn often now ... Wait..... Does that make me the asshole?
literal banger ngl
Bars
Steven continuing his campaign to overlap with my entire UA-cam watch history
Cth2lhu schizo arc incoming? ;D
Would be cool for him to talk to some astronomy/physics people
I’m glad I’m not alone in that lmao
If they start talking with boomgonza or some yugioh UA-camrs then I’ll know that my life is a simulation.
@@lionelmessisburner7393 angela collier when? im not sure if they would vibe 😂
This was 40% podcast discussion and 60% competition who can talk faster, Milo or Steven. I dig it.
Yeah, I really thought I left UA-cam playing on 1.25 for a moment 😂
I honest to God put the video on 75% and still had a moment where I thought "wow, Milo is talking fast there!"
I thought it was very interesting when they spoke about anxiety, putting stuff in your body.... meanwhile the girl is 10000% taking too much Adderall. Ppl who need that medication don't speak like that, the opposite effect should occur
@@janpawedwa4590 yeah they are both flying high on that Adderall … babbling nonsense
Yeah. Listening at .75 too.
Maybe the best guest so far. Milo was fucking *sharp,* and Destiny's finally found someone else who also talks at 2x speed. The flow from topic to topic was also really smooth, whereas with some guests it was like, "Ok cool... Sooo next topic."
I'll never forget the day my father said, and i quote, "I'm not a flat earther. I'm a globe skeptic." ...I've never been at a loss of words before till that day.
So he wasn’t _100%_ sure it’s a flat plane, it could also be the inside of a hollow earth, or a cube like Minecraft!
@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix yeah something like that, but honestly, if he's already willing to be a "globe skeptic," he should just fully commit to one and wear that badge of stupidity with pride
If he's such a skeptic why not just research or test if the earth is or not flat? If some wanker in greece managed to do that a couple millenia ago with some sticks surely he can get off his butt and see it for himself
HAHAHAHAH thats brilliant
My dad hides it from me but always references flat earth and various conspiracies as if it was solid truth accidentally around me. I try not to fight it since he hides it to start with but man. It's true, you fall for one conspiracy you fall for many more
I’m an older Aussie that bloody loves Milo’s stuff. He is inspiring, fresh and grounded. We need more Milo.
Thanks for all you do! I’m currently on my journey of leaving pseudoscience and history behind. Being a life long conservative, it’s been rough coming to slowly realize that my alt right views were based on clever lies. However, the truth matters and the pursuit of it led me here, so I will not waste this opportunity to turn my life around. Thanks and God bless!
Welcome back to the world. :)
You can do it!🎉🎉
@@ethanthibodeaux9599 absolutely based. Good job
Me too mate, I was stuck in alt right from 2015 to 2019 but I woke up towards the end of Trumps presidency
@@mrcontrarian1416 funny, I was a raging leftists until around trumps first election, between him making his country better and Justin Trudeau making mine extremely worse made me quite conservative.
Can't wait. I love Milo Rossi's content. Let's go googlebunkers!
GoogleDebunkers™
This kind of thing drives me googledebunkers!!!
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
Only complaint is that it's with destiny, but hey, I love Milo, and I know he won't do anything stupid
@@theonetruebean8800why is that bad?
Bro XQC should talk like this more often, he comes off so much smarter when he doesnt sound French Canadian.
rapid fire micro strokes are one hell of a drug
Underrated comment 😂
XQC has been a secret genius this whole time. Everything he’s done has been part of a 4D chess game that goes so far over our heads it just looks dumb to us.
Man, Milo cut his hair, then I see this comment and now I can't unsee this.
NOO i cant unsee it now 😭😭😭
My god why is the googledebunkers hair so perfect in this show. Great guest and an insightful podcast episode!
It's really not.
@@deepforestfire which part?
@@augustb.w.4778at 1:00:33 one hair splits off for a microsecond. I couldn’t watch after this 😂 (Fr though what is this other dude talking about)
@@Limelime420nooo they got him, Filip Zieba sitting right off screen with a bamboo pipe blowing air at him
@@augustb.w.4778 😂😂💀
People like Milo make this stuff more palatable. More academics need to do UA-cam.
I can’t wait for my google to get debunkered here
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
*who up googlin dey bunkers?*
she google on my misinformation until I debunk
I am very skeptical of conspiracy theorists. But what I am even more skeptical of is people who deny or downplay the existence of conspiracies. Here is a little list which is by far not comprehensive. Am I really supposed to believe that humanity changed and there suddenly are no conspiracies anymore? I call BS on that. Here is the list (not even fraction of what was confirmed as true):
Tuskegee Syphilis Study (1932-1972, U.S.): A U.S. government study where African American men with syphilis were deliberately left untreated, even after penicillin became available, to observe the natural progression of the disease.
MKUltra Program (1950s-1970s, U.S.): A secret CIA project involving unethical experiments on mind control, including the use of LSD and other drugs on unwitting participants, aimed at developing methods of brainwashing and interrogation.
Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964, U.S.): A reported attack on U.S. naval ships by North Vietnam, which was later found to be either exaggerated or misrepresented. This incident was used to justify U.S. escalation in the Vietnam War.
Operation Mockingbird (1940s-1970s, U.S.): A covert CIA program designed to influence media by recruiting journalists to spread pro-American propaganda and shape public opinion during the Cold War. It was revealed in the 1970s.
Nayirah Testimony (1990, U.S./Kuwait): A false testimony before the U.S. Congress by a Kuwaiti girl, "Nayirah," who claimed that Iraqi soldiers were taking babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait. This testimony helped build public support for the Gulf War but was later revealed to be orchestrated by a public relations firm and connected to the Kuwaiti royal family.
Operation Northwoods (1962, U.S.): A proposed U.S. government plan to stage terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and blame Cuba to justify military intervention. Though never carried out, the plan was declassified.
Lavon Affair (1954, Israel): A covert Israeli operation where agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian buildings, hoping to frame the Muslim Brotherhood and strain Egypt’s relations with Western powers.
Iran-Contra Affair (1980s, U.S.): A secret U.S. operation involving the illegal sale of arms to Iran and using the profits to fund Nicaraguan Contra rebels, which was exposed in the mid-1980s.
COINTELPRO (1950s-1970s, U.S.): An FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, and discrediting domestic political groups, including civil rights activists and anti-war organizations.
The Business Plot (1933, U.S.): A conspiracy by wealthy businessmen to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt and establish a fascist regime. The plot was revealed by General Smedley Butler.
Project ARTICHOKE (1950s-1960s, U.S.): A CIA program that explored interrogation techniques and mind control, including the use of drugs like LSD, similar to MKUltra.
Googledebunkers got me dooglegebunkers
Wow was not expecting this collab
Same, letying pro genocide defender speak about missinformation is wild and sad.
Fully expecting to find my favourite pimple remover to be chatting to destiny at some point 😂
@@cegesh1459all your comments are unhinged lol why even watch this show if you're just gonna be really ignorant towards destinys positions. seek help
@@cegesh1459 What genocide?
@@cegesh1459battling antisemitic disinformation is not being “pro genocide defender”. Hope this clears things up.
They listened to me. I literally posted they should talk to him when I saw the flint Dibble show. I'm so special.
Edit: I’ll use /s next time lol.
Me too, maybe we caused this!?!
@@wesleyverity7310 Not a cause, but a blessing. Maybe a cause. I dont know.
@pv2dunn they had already had him, he was there when they filmed Flints episode
@@nickchivers9029 I was just joking around. I was just glad he’s in this episode.
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack.
"Science is behind a paywall" is so true. Even a lot of peer reviewed papers are often behind literal paywalls on the web.
Which though most don’t understand can be gotten for free from the authors directly as they want it more read, but it’s the publishers who want to make money off the archive they publish.
@@TheTechnoPilot exactly this, when you find an interesting paper, contact the authors and they'll be delighted to send it to you for free. They're not getting a penny of the money the publishers demand.
I’m a HUGE fan of Open Communication - Open Source code, Open Hardware, Open Game Licenses, and that extends to scientific communication. Without freedom of information and freedom of research, myths and urban legends flourish.
@@queenannsrevenge100 Open technology, except military technology, which should always be kept secret.
@@Techno_Idioto oh, yeah, I can see reasons why “how to build a nuke in 1,000 easy steps” is not Open, but research on most areas of science that don’t pose physical harm to others? Especially things like software hacks and such, they need to be open, because if they aren’t, the vast majority of companies are predisposed to just ignore them unless they’re public, as has been historically proven.
I can't believe I have not heard of this podcast before. The intellectual conversation was so engaging! I'm excited to binge watch your content.
Hell yea i found this dudes channel like a year ago was such a breath of fresh air.
this is going to be googledebunkers!
Banger episode, guys! You all did great. Big fan of Milo; the hosts matched his energy, and the flow of the conversation was very enjoyable. Subbed.
Much of this conversation is very aware of the dichotomy of the modern internet, we simultaneously have every piece of knowledge available but absolutely no comprehension of it
"A jack of all trades is a master of none but still always better then a master of one" I think that's the quote.
However, having a PhD does not exclude you from having a broad overview.
@KaiRedeker And a master of none will often have less knowledge on particular topics , the quote needs to be rewritten as generally a generalist is better but those generalists often need the aid of Master of a Niche.
@@mk_gamíng0609-- No deck is complete without both jacks and kings.
it's "often times better" not "always"
Although it isn't actually the original quote. It was extended only in the 21st century, not shortened over time like "When in Rome" or "The proof is in the pudding".
To see people having a rational discussion is a complete shock to my system.
You guys exist?
Amazing!
To find anyone to have a rational conversation with is getting harder.
I've pretty much given up on the idea.
One of the best videos I think I've ever seen. I've been a fan of Milo for a while so I was extatic to see a 2 hour podcast recommended to me. Having listed to all of it, I can say that this trio works so well! Everybody had such unique perspectives and ideas that came together wonderfully. I can't believe the chemestry and the density of information in this video. Definitely need more of this!
Is there a point where they recognise destiny's position in the right wing pipeline?
HOLY HELL WORLDS COLLIDE I NEED TO SEE THIS
ARE YOU READY TO GO?!
@@OmahaGTP
'Cuase I'm ready to go.
WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?
WHY NOT
Esoterica would be an awesome guest, continuing on the historical/theological/archeological theme.
Milo’s content is dope btw! Great episode.
Oooooh, yes! That would be so great!
A relative got a chain email in the early 2000s saying that Obama had said something dreadful in his book, with quotes. I had the actual book. I found the actual quote. The email had deleted key words, like "not" and replaced a pronoun with a fake antecedent, changing the entire meaning of the quotation. My relative refused to look at the book or compare the quote. He informed me, "I do my own research!" In a very snotty voice. I was like, "What research? Your quote is a lie. Research is done." A decade later, he was still posting the fake quote on Facebook. I still posted the correct quote, which I then had to interpret for the other doofuses on his FB feed.
That's exactely it. A lotta ppl don't care about the truth, just about what reinforces their world views.
what was the quote?
20 minutes in. I’m not even into archeology and this is brilliant. He’s obviously passionate
They literally didn't talk about Archeology in the first 20 minutes. It rapidly became political from 20m-40m. You're a bot
Bridges fan? Common 40k youtube channel W
@@swickens930 I’m not a bot moron and they did talk about his non credentials and how he developed a following and how he started in his field. You’re a bot.
@swickens930
I think it's more likely that you perceived a political view opposing you and immediately stopped listening for thesis and started looking for more points you subjectively disagree with.
Counterpoint is a veteran 40k channel with a lumberjack sense of fashion and a beard. When the bots start growing beards it's time to leave the internet.
@@Lightwolf_VR What a vague bullshit response. They literally didn't talk about Archeology in the first 40 minutes of the video. So idk what bot program counterpoints is running but the original comment is actual bullshit. Please list the detailed archeology topic that they talked about within the first 20 minutes of the video
Whenever I see a random paper cited to support a strong assertion on the Internet:
You think this paper just fell out of a coconut tree? It exists in the context of all in which it lives and what came before it
This made me actually laugh out loud.
W Comment
I once climbed a coconut tree and found every tree on the island had been stripped bare. Another passenger had apparently washed up on shore the night before, collected all of the coconuts, and squirreled them away.
@@somethingelse4424 vaush coconut island
@@KavsLockedOut Exactly, so you know what I had to do to survive.
This is actually gonna be so fucking peak holy shit
And it was!
lmao Shanks profile picture and the word "peak" - i see you
@@karloswald407 ;)
Hancock says "Stuff just keeps on getting older..."
To which I ask: Isn't that just how time works?
Bro discovered the passage of time
@almightytallestred I think it's pretty obvious that was meant, and it's that Hancock was saying that there's a trend where historical finds thought to be of a certain date later have discovered evidence that indicate that they're older than previously thought. And frankly, to a point he's correct.
Something I didn't notice at the time was in school whenever we would get an assignment to write a research paper or a persuasive essay we always got told to choose our position, THEN find research to back it up. I ended up going to multiple schools across the country due to being dragged around by a military family and every school I went to had that order of operations.
The "Do your own research" crowd is doing the exact same thing, and usually have roughly the same level of credibility with their sourcing, and it's a method that encourages laser focusing sources that agree with you and ignoring anything that disagrees.
Also we should start complaining that pseudoscientists are silencing mainstream academics just to see how the free speech absolutists on twitter respond
It's a very good point: I think my schooling was a bit more "liberal" in that sense: read first; conclusion after. But it's the way too many (including but by no means limited to the pseudo community's leading lights) still approach "research": here's my conclusion, now let's find some stuff to back it up.
It's a terrible approach to any study: sure, we all come at a question with our preconceived notions, but the point is to test them, and if necessary to be our own debunker before someone else spots the flaws.
Kids will not bother with the assignment if you give them no starting point in which they are invested. Choosing your position and then working to try and support it is going to be far more productive in a learning sense. Give them stakes and force them to support that world view, and they will research. Its not ideal, but you're asking far too much of a child, you'd be asking too much of an adult.
They are not bought in to the assignment unless their bubble or world view is threatened by not engaging with it. After they've learned information literacy, then go the next step. They can be challenged on why they select certain sources etc.
@@firstandlastname6194 What may seem easier may not be right: in this case it has the potential for enormous damage. Learning needs to involve leaving our preconceptions behind, otherwise we've learned nothing. And sometimes there's just no "right" or "wrong" position to be had, there's only uncertainty - something that both kids and adults need to grasp.
@@davepx1 Run before you can walk, soar before you can fly - Nobody
Build on a foundation, it is not easy, it is hard.
@@firstandlastname6194 That's all the more reason to invite pupils to do the fact-finding and reasoning before they come up with conclusions: picking a ditch to fight for too easily becomes a lifelong habit.
As we all know the Earth truly sits on the back of four elephants. Whom stand on the back of a giant turtle.
G N U
Bad joke Kevin, true, but bad joke ;-).
But what does the turtle stand on? Well, my good man, it's turtles all the way down.
@@mrflappie6553 it is turtle, not tortoise, so it does not stand on anything, it's swimming through space. No one knows where it is heading, except A'Tuin itself.
Turtles all the way down.
Archaeologists support their own. Resoundingly people across the field are all impressed and happy because it’s been hard for us to focus on outreach when there’s reports to write, grant funding to apply for, fieldwork & research to do and in the cultural resources management end of archaeology, theres highway surveys to complete. All of these things and more in working archaeology doing archaeology are a hindrance to taking the time and effort to do outreach. Caught in our own bureaucracy. We’ve needed this and having an UA-cam personality like Milo has helped.
I don't know the situation in the US but here in the UK Archaeology is woefully underfunded.
some of my favorite Milo episodes are the Bagdad battery saga, with the actual expert who specialized in that region and time period. it was so wonderful.
this is the greatest collab both of you have ever done.
This is my first intro into this podcast and Kyla and Destiny have such great chemistry as co-hosts. I'm hooked.
Milo takes breaths like he's playing a wind instrument.
He’s reloading his speech gun
Time to take down those Google debunkers
I think you mean googledebunkers! Its a word. Trust me.
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack.
@@mctbaggins2084this is a crossover I didn’t expect but makes perfect sense.
@@peewee0224 it does for sure. But not sure how much D is interested in Archeology. Probably more about the debunking the fake Archeology stuff. If that's the case I hope they get Professor Dave explaines on for the same reason.
OMG IM SO HYPED FOR THIS😊
Yes sir
I'm not. Milo is completele misrepresenting the issue here. The Atlantis myth is not of racist origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for racist theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as racist in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack
The Atlantis myth is not of r word origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for r word theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as r.... in order for people to think it's icky. What an absolute hack.
I am very skeptical of conspiracy theorists. But what I am even more skeptical of is people who deny or downplay the existence of conspiracies. Here is a little list which is by far not comprehensive. Am I really supposed to believe that humanity changed and there suddenly are no conspiracies anymore? I call BS on that. Here is the list (not even fraction of what was confirmed as true):
Tuskegee Syphilis Study (1932-1972, U.S.): A U.S. government study where African American men with syphilis were deliberately left untreated, even after penicillin became available, to observe the natural progression of the disease.
MKUltra Program (1950s-1970s, U.S.): A secret CIA project involving unethical experiments on mind control, including the use of LSD and other drugs on unwitting participants, aimed at developing methods of brainwashing and interrogation.
Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964, U.S.): A reported attack on U.S. naval ships by North Vietnam, which was later found to be either exaggerated or misrepresented. This incident was used to justify U.S. escalation in the Vietnam War.
Operation Mockingbird (1940s-1970s, U.S.): A covert CIA program designed to influence media by recruiting journalists to spread pro-American propaganda and shape public opinion during the Cold War. It was revealed in the 1970s.
Nayirah Testimony (1990, U.S./Kuwait): A false testimony before the U.S. Congress by a Kuwaiti girl, "Nayirah," who claimed that Iraqi soldiers were taking babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait. This testimony helped build public support for the Gulf War but was later revealed to be orchestrated by a public relations firm and connected to the Kuwaiti royal family.
Operation Northwoods (1962, U.S.): A proposed U.S. government plan to stage terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and blame Cuba to justify military intervention. Though never carried out, the plan was declassified.
Lavon Affair (1954, Israel): A covert Israeli operation where agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian buildings, hoping to frame the Muslim Brotherhood and strain Egypt’s relations with Western powers.
Iran-Contra Affair (1980s, U.S.): A secret U.S. operation involving the illegal sale of arms to Iran and using the profits to fund Nicaraguan Contra rebels, which was exposed in the mid-1980s.
COINTELPRO (1950s-1970s, U.S.): An FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, and discrediting domestic political groups, including civil rights activists and anti-war organizations.
The Business Plot (1933, U.S.): A conspiracy by wealthy businessmen to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt and establish a fascist regime. The plot was revealed by General Smedley Butler.
Project ARTICHOKE (1950s-1960s, U.S.): A CIA program that explored interrogation techniques and mind control, including the use of drugs like LSD, similar to MKUltra.
How'd I not know about this podcast earlier, subscribed... I love Milo Rossi, thanks for having him as a guest.
The reason that sites such as those in Turkey are not all completely excavated, catalogued, and set up for public tours is not simply that scientists are "waiting for future technologies", but also out of basic manpower and logistics. Southeast Turkey has numerous sites representing the approximate period of Gobekli Tepe. The process of doing responsible and professional archaeology on each site takes a lot of time, money, and competent experts. This slows the excavation process down significantly.
Good interview flow. Milo has a great mindset. Yall got a new sub.
Turned on notification for this. Hopefully i can still find it after work.
The Atlantis myth is not of r word origin. Ignatius Donnelly might have misused it for r.... theories but the origin is much older. Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and Augustus Le Plongeon. And Milo must know that because he was corrected on that. He is willfully misrepresenting it to mark it as r.... in order for people to think it's icky.
I am very skeptical of conspiracy theorists. But what I am even more skeptical of is people who deny or downplay the existence of conspiracies. Here is a little list which is by far not comprehensive. Am I really supposed to believe that humanity changed and there suddenly are no conspiracies anymore? I call BS on that. Here is the list (not even fraction of what was confirmed as true):
Tuskegee Syphilis Study (1932-1972, U.S.): A U.S. government study where African American men with syphilis were deliberately left untreated, even after penicillin became available, to observe the natural progression of the disease.
MKUltra Program (1950s-1970s, U.S.): A secret CIA project involving unethical experiments on mind control, including the use of LSD and other drugs on unwitting participants, aimed at developing methods of brainwashing and interrogation.
Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964, U.S.): A reported attack on U.S. naval ships by North Vietnam, which was later found to be either exaggerated or misrepresented. This incident was used to justify U.S. escalation in the Vietnam War.
Operation Mockingbird (1940s-1970s, U.S.): A covert CIA program designed to influence media by recruiting journalists to spread pro-American propaganda and shape public opinion during the Cold War. It was revealed in the 1970s.
Nayirah Testimony (1990, U.S./Kuwait): A false testimony before the U.S. Congress by a Kuwaiti girl, "Nayirah," who claimed that Iraqi soldiers were taking babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait. This testimony helped build public support for the Gulf War but was later revealed to be orchestrated by a public relations firm and connected to the Kuwaiti royal family.
Operation Northwoods (1962, U.S.): A proposed U.S. government plan to stage terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and blame Cuba to justify military intervention. Though never carried out, the plan was declassified.
Lavon Affair (1954, Israel): A covert Israeli operation where agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian buildings, hoping to frame the Muslim Brotherhood and strain Egypt’s relations with Western powers.
Iran-Contra Affair (1980s, U.S.): A secret U.S. operation involving the illegal sale of arms to Iran and using the profits to fund Nicaraguan Contra rebels, which was exposed in the mid-1980s.
COINTELPRO (1950s-1970s, U.S.): An FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, and discrediting domestic political groups, including civil rights activists and anti-war organizations.
The Business Plot (1933, U.S.): A conspiracy by wealthy businessmen to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt and establish a fascist regime. The plot was revealed by General Smedley Butler.
Project ARTICHOKE (1950s-1960s, U.S.): A CIA program that explored interrogation techniques and mind control, including the use of drugs like LSD, similar to MKUltra.
@@MarceloKowalewski spamming that comment, huh? Someone's a hater.
Same
@@MarceloKowalewski that doesn't make it any more credible.
Probably my favorite Bridges episode yet! Keep up the good work you two!
The guests have been AMAZING as of late! Love watching this with my dad :)
As a person who was around before 2016, it's weird someone saying that right wing reactions is caused by cancel culture when cancel culture is just what right wing people have been doing since time immemorial, and particularly cancel culture was a reaction to Gamergate, the ultimate cancel culture moment
Thankyou. Exactly what I was thinking.. She is very misinformed about that woman hate movement. Even Bannon admitted he used it to radicalise young men. In came the RU bots as well. It set the stage for the new version happening now. (Woke, cancel culture etc) blah blah
Yeah it's precious of the puritanical conservatives to call those who are now standing up and speaking out as "being canceled".
This is my first time listening to this podcast, so maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that entire segment felt very 'enlightened centrism' to me.
As a Ukrainian who existed before 2014 I can also say that this ENTIRE culture war thing is literal russian psy op. This isn't about Ukraine, russian people wanted a war with the West and putin managed to persuade them that by making Americans fight each other they're "winning a war with NATO" (zero people here think they're fighting Ukraine, they claim it's Western troops from Poland, France and USA, BTW).
Remember "the dixie chicks"? And don't get me started with "Freedom Fries"...
After reading "How Emotions are Made" I am somewhat convinced that the reason people can't get out of these conspiracy holes is simply that it is too costly for them. The required energy to change your mind is too great. It can be done, but it must be energetically beneficial to do so.
@@TwoPointDuck It's also a quasai-form of Stockholm syndrome I think. If anyone admits that they were wrong, it means they're actually the bad guy in this whole thing especially if they spew hyperbolic rhetoric. So for instance, Destiny absolutely hates Trump. He thinks Trump wants to rule the world and we should do everything we can to stop him. But because he's a popular influencer, well now a bunch of his viewers also hate Trump. Two assassination attempts and 4 years of violence later and.... Well that HAS to be Trump's rhetoric that caused that because if it isn't, that means it's Destiny's rhetoric, or people like Destiny. Oops. People weren't violent because they were misled into thinking Trump is Hitler, no no of course not. It's because Trump actually IS Hitler of course...
If Destiny is actually wrong about his beliefs, that doesn't just make him wrong. It makes him the same as the people he claims to hate. It would mean that he's the bad guy and it would make him responsible for the division that exists in America. Not only would he be wrong, but he'd actually be the problem lol, and seeing he's super popular, that would make him a big problem. That's suicide juice right there
sunken cost fallacy strikes us again
Miniminuteman, on Bridges dude? Hell yeah dude
Maybe he could atun shei on to talk about civil war myths
@@thewingedserpent5823you’re on to something, I like where ya heads at
@@thewingedserpent5823THAT would be mega awesome!
now i want bananabread
This could not have come at a better time, I've been religiously watching every single video miniminuteman has made for the past month. AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL CONVO, THANK YOU.
First Dibble, now Milo, man we're really trucking along here
Onwards, Googledebunkers!
I feel like I just watched Milo NAIL a prestigious job interview. Well done my fellow Googledebunker!
I love that kayla is part of this podcast, she has great chemistry with destiny and guests, often asking great questions and referencing guests content
I agree! Kyla is incredibly good at bridging gaps in the conversation when Steven and the guest don’t know where to move the conversation. She’s an absolute beast in this podcast and I’m very thankful for such a grounded and ambitious content creator.
Great interviewer
And i love when she says non dino believer 😂
She needs to reduce the "like" in her conversation. I realize that it's a feature of the younger generation but it's distracting in this context. And, to be fair, Milo is guilty of it to a lesser degree.
@@brentwalker8596 Alright old man.
I find it kind of charming that he's just as loud when he's sitting directly across from someone as he is alone in a big room filming his videos.
Whoever is responsible for the guest selection is doing a great job!
Kyla is! She's Destiny's cohost :)
It's Kyla aka NotsoErudite aka Erudite aka "The woman who does my other podcast". I'm pretty sure she's the showrunner as well as Stephen's final anchor to this mortal plane lol
Why? The irony of having a right wing grifter talking about the right wing pipeline that he's a part of?
This was a great episode. I just straight up watched it instead of putting it on in the background.
The conversation looped a little bit every now and then but the overall flow and vibe was excellent. Kyla also did an excellent job of moving it along with some good questions.
Loved seeing Milo in longer form content. Mostly only see his shorts/ tiktoks so hearing him get to speak on something for extended periods of time is amazing.
As a destiny fan and a miniminuteman fan, it's crazy seeing this crossover. All 3 of you were fantastic. Great show, keep it up.
You're a brave yet ignorant person lol
Nice one! Congrats on Bridges Podcast, really interesting conversations with great guests!
the existence of miniminuteman and regular minutemen implies the existence of megaminutemen
Laura Dern as Dr. Ellie Sattler in Jurassic Park is what got ME into archeology. Laura Dern could get me into anything.
Bc laura is Laurence fruitcake
I appreciate how Milo and Destiny talk at normal speed
For anyone interested in human evolution check out Gutsick Gibbon. She actively works in human evolution and it's ancestry.
Amazing to see these two talking! I love to see content creaters speaking to people outside of their environment, but seeing the connections between them.
This one is gonna be gloriously Googledebunking.
It's very big of Milo to admit being in the Alt Right pipeline. I also followed those circles. Then I grew up and was challenged by my own beliefs vs the alt right
Milo would be very dangerous today had he continued down the alt right path.
Very cowardly of destiny not to admit his current position and role in that pipeline
Milo and the hosts are living proof that the world will be in good hands. I’m in my late 40s and have never understood why old people crap on the newer generations. I vowed a long time ago to never do that. That’s extremely disrespectful and makes the old person that casts such aspersions look like an imbecile.
Ok now thats a guest
Best crossover ever, Milo is hilarious and great at presenting evidence in a fun and engaging way. Great guest @Bridges!!
This made my week. Googledebunker and a black female. Thank you for this... havent even watched it yet
This channel is so enjoyable. Please have more episodes like this, very informative and interesting!
never in all my days did i think i would see destiny across the table from miniminuteman but fuck am i here for it
Holy shit Google Debunkers are eating good tonight
The increased popularity of Historical Revisionist content on UA-cam is pretty scary and is quite dangerous.
Yeah, it is more popular than actual historical content at this point. Tiktok is even worse.
historical revision is what happens when we learn new things about the past or attempt to understand it better. what’s dangerous about that?
@@diezl101 That isn't what they're talking about.
@@diezl101 historical revision colloquially speaking is used to describe the revision of historic events, without a scientific but an ideological apprach. For example holocaust revisionists say things like: "the gas chambers had wooden doors, so the nazis didn't kill any or just a few jews. If any change in the viewing of history would be called historic revisionism that term is kinda useless, as any historic work practices that at some point.
Do you know why the real archaeologists and historians whondebunk this stuff fail to handle them? It is very obvious to identify their own biases. Not a single one among those I follow on youtube made a video about the historical revisionism of the black Cleopatra in the Netflix "documentary". They don't touch anything that they see a right winger would touch and might reflect bad on them. Basically they are spineless. Stuff that the archaeologist from the previous podcast (don't remember his name) said are red flags for many people so they will ignore him about everything. I don't think he even realized how he lost them.
This wait has driven me googledebunkers
A question for the EDITOR. The color grading in the beginning is absolutely gorgeous. Why not keep it the whole episode? You could maybe remove the halation, so it doesn't look too processed. However i personally think it looks amazing.
A note for when it comes to lighting the podcast. Using negative fill behind the camera, on the left, and right side would create a really good shadow on Destiny and the guest's face. Which would make a really dynamic and professional looking image.
This camera already looks amazing. Color grading and negative fill would make this perfect.
To everyone wondering, the interview starts at 1:35
So hyped for this
You'll save yourself a lot of stress when you understand that in most cases: The myth, the cult, the lie, the "mistake" are the *point*. In most cases the illogical idea or belief is not something they accidentally fell into, but something they wanted to believe in first, and then defend it from there. Also, the political overlap is no accident. There is often an agenda behind the myths and nonsense and you should deal with even the silliest ideas that have a fervent following as propaganda and not mistaken, misinformed beliefs.
1:11:02 my dad and his friend were literally looking at this exact guy with this exact ‘footprint’ and being like “WOAHHH this is CRAZY it’s PROOF” and when they called me over to see I spent the entire time going “so the evidence… is that it _looks like_ a footprint. watertight proof, certainly” and then they get upset at me for ruining their fun 😭
That's always the rub. They aren't mad at the misinformation or at the guy lying to them; they're mad at you for ruining the illusion, for making them feel like a fool.
Omg milo! So happy to see you. I'm so excited to listen to this podcast. I'm here because I follow milo and subscribed to your chanel. ❤❤
Just want to say, fluffing love the stuff out of bridges. Keep up the good work fam!
I've been a fan of Milo for a since this past spring. He is an absolute joy to listen to; props to Kyla for having him on. Keep fighting the good fight Milo!
1:35:03 The Higgs-Boson was first theorized in 1964, and the idea behind it is really awesome. A team of scientists studying these sub-atomic interactions saw a void or interaction they couldn’t explain and knew they didn’t have the tech to figure it out, so they set it up for the future by looking at what was known and could be accounted for, and then quantifying the unknown, and then saying “hey there is a particle that we can’t measure that we think interacts with these things in this way,” and once we were like “hey we can smash these particles together so damn fast and hard that we should be able to measure these theorized interactions and particles,” and we were right on some of those ideas.
Which is exactly how science should - and usually does - work.
I've been following Milo for a few months and binged Destiny content for the past few weeks so this was a really pleasant surprise!
Destiny discovered the joys of pottery shards in this episode
That's it!?
I hope they also talked about projectile points 😤
"sherds"
hopefully his fans can discover the joy of washing their underwear
@@obvv7714 born to poop my pants, forced to clean the underwear
As a fan of Destiny since the JonTron debate, seeing how far he's come is amazing 😭. This and the Dibble episode were amazing.
How far right he's come you mean?
Love milo such a well spoken and enthusiastic individual.
This is my first time tuning in and I must say that the hosts are absolutely superb. Love it!
“Milo in good lighting isn’t real, he can’t hurt you”
Milo in good lighting:
OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU GUYS DID MILO ROSSI THIS IS ACTUALLY AMAZING
Didn't expect this cross over, love it!
Always pleasantly surprised by the guests on this podcast
Milo: "Archeology is my OLDEST interest"
How did no one catch this as a joke?
erudite is so sick for getting milo i never wouldve even thought to ask
No way! This is a collab I didn’t expect to see.
So excited to watch this, Milo is fantastic!