The Bad History Drinking Game (feat. Miniminuteman)

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  • Come play a drinking game with us... forever... and ever... and ever...
    Join me and Milo from ‪@miniminuteman773‬ - TikTok star, archaeology whizz, and the Margaery Tyrell to my Cersei Lannister (younger, more beautiful, etc etc) - as we torture each other with terrible, terrible history from all the dark corners of the internet.
    The rules of the game are simple: for each round, we predict what braindead, tired, cliche, awful talking points our ears are about to be assaulted with. Every time we guess right, we drink.
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  • @Predator20357
    @Predator20357 Рік тому +988

    Atun-Shei looks like he invented time travel so that he can talk to future people from his 1980-1990s history show

    • @masongoser5627
      @masongoser5627 Рік тому +30

      I'd watch that show

    • @generatoralignmentdevalue
      @generatoralignmentdevalue Рік тому +26

      Headcanon accepted.

    • @ebinecksdee9872
      @ebinecksdee9872 Рік тому +8

      Wait so that's not what he is? Color me surprised

    • @Jrez
      @Jrez Рік тому +6

      I miss that TV fuzz, every time I see it nowadays I feel so nostalgic.

    • @cyrus8586
      @cyrus8586 Рік тому +4

      He was the missing guest from a Ken Burns documentary

  • @ryangoebel9582
    @ryangoebel9582 Рік тому +160

    This has “professor drinking with his grad students” energy

  • @gryfyn71
    @gryfyn71 Рік тому +456

    the line "That was worse than I imagined, and I imagined Nazi's" really sums up a large portion of the internet

  • @noahmurphygordon1928
    @noahmurphygordon1928 Рік тому +234

    "These young kids and there bathrooms and genders. They just don't get it."
    Sweats nervously and glances at my stockpile of 20 bathrooms

    • @ecyor0
      @ecyor0 Рік тому +2

      Remember, gender was an invention of Big Plumbing to sell more bathrooms

    • @Halocon720
      @Halocon720 Рік тому

      We must close the bathroom gap with the dod derned commies!

    • @roosajarvinen5698
      @roosajarvinen5698 Рік тому +19

      Don't even get me started about my 12 genders.

  • @balrogdahomie
    @balrogdahomie Рік тому +820

    Shoutouts to Tyler the Intercessor, savior of the chat, who stood as a bulwark against the insatiable tide of phishing bots and chat spammers. May his legend be etched into history, onwards eternally, and inspire our warriors to face the hordes with newfound resolve.

    • @barlotardy
      @barlotardy Рік тому +23

      The gods know his name...

    • @primmakinsofis614
      @primmakinsofis614 Рік тому +56

      Weird, isn't it, how UA-cam can spend so much time and energy removing the 'Dislike' button, and censoring comments, yet does nothing about sexbots in livestream chats.

    • @disconnected7737
      @disconnected7737 Рік тому +17

      @@primmakinsofis614 Or the comments for that matter

    • @qdjushufjjdvtejuudjrdh5595
      @qdjushufjjdvtejuudjrdh5595 Рік тому +10

      @@disconnected7737 Or youtube shorts for that matter

    • @disconnected7737
      @disconnected7737 Рік тому

      @@qdjushufjjdvtejuudjrdh5595 Just about anything on this platform with a comment function

  • @nikkovalidor4890
    @nikkovalidor4890 Рік тому +633

    atun shei camera quality really looks like he comes straight out of a 90s documentary

    • @Khandrake
      @Khandrake Рік тому +71

      Looks like a lab tech in a 90s movie right before the alien escapes

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian Рік тому

      He looks like an animated oil painting.

    • @FourtyWinkles
      @FourtyWinkles Рік тому +8

      Probably using LUTs from 90s History Channel.

    • @alisilcox6036
      @alisilcox6036 Рік тому +1

      Almost a Giorgios tsoukalos tribute

    • @Xeno426
      @Xeno426 Рік тому +8

      It's very soft, reminds me of VHS.

  • @lettersnstuff
    @lettersnstuff Рік тому +828

    Atun-Shei describing his movie as “competent, not a pile of shit, not an embarrassment.” genuinely feels like a bigger more outlandish promise than if he’d said it was a cinematic revolution the likes of which had never before been beheld by the eyes of man.

    • @FakeSchrodingersCat
      @FakeSchrodingersCat Рік тому +16

      Well sure I mean it's all a matter of repetition. There are only a handful of times any creator has described their movie as basically just ok, but directors and actors have been hyping their movies beyond all justification for generations. I mean everything from Avatar to The Room and everything in between has been described by their creator as a cinematic revolution the sentiment has lost all meaning.

    • @AtunSheiFilms
      @AtunSheiFilms  Рік тому +227

      @@FakeSchrodingersCat I mean, I think it's going to be more than ok - in fact it's shaping up to be pretty damn good. But I understand that when people hear 1) it's low budget and 2) it's directed by a youtuber, their minds immediately go to "oh, so it'll be unwatchable."
      And 9 times out of 10, they'd be right.

    • @FakeSchrodingersCat
      @FakeSchrodingersCat Рік тому +23

      @@AtunSheiFilms Absolutely understand, I am looking forward to it.
      What I am mainly getting at is what would you think about a movie with those 2 characteristics and the creator came out and said it was a paradigm shift in movie making not seen since Kubrick. Too often people are tempted to overhype things they are involved with that it is refreshing to see someone who is trying to promote something without going overboard.

    • @jameshawkins8817
      @jameshawkins8817 Рік тому +17

      @@AtunSheiFilms Dude, you literally released a 1 hour and 40 minute movie just the other week called Demonology and it was amazing. Shared it with my buddies that I visited Salem with this year.

  • @otheirony618
    @otheirony618 Рік тому +393

    I feel like miniminutemans imposter syndrome would go away if he had the Indiana Jones hat.

    • @barlotardy
      @barlotardy Рік тому +14

      I've got one, and can confirm!

  • @MannoMax
    @MannoMax Рік тому +256

    1:05:03 I work for *unnamed german car brand* We actually have a very common joke here in Germany, in response to the question of "What did the company do in the 30s and 40s ?"
    "Well, in 1932 we released a record breaking new model, that was a great economic success, and in 1945 brave men and women cleared away the rubble and rebuilt the factories"
    "Oh why were the factories destroyed ? Where were all the men ?"
    "Oh yes of course. In 1954 we won a design award ..."

    • @jessecarozza6745
      @jessecarozza6745 Рік тому +56

      No one ever talks about Herbie's grim past before he became the Love Bug.

    • @johnnobody3078
      @johnnobody3078 Рік тому +56

      @@jessecarozza6745 Herbie the Hate Wagon does roll off the tongue...

    • @anthrosaurian
      @anthrosaurian 7 місяців тому +7

      @johnnobody
      And now I'm going to go muse to myself about writing a dystopian parody screenplay called "Herbie: The Harbinger of Hate"...

    • @lkrnpk
      @lkrnpk Місяць тому +1

      “We were transporting juice for the Nazis, they ran through a lot of juice during the war”

    • @Dan_Ben_Michael
      @Dan_Ben_Michael 25 днів тому +4

      My grandfather could never bring himself to own a German made car because of his experiences during the war… apparently he owned a very unreliable Mercedes which broke down a lot. It made him continually late for his job as kommandant at Auschwitz.

  • @willowmckinnis6323
    @willowmckinnis6323 Рік тому +53

    the genetically superior lactose tolerant aryan is the funniest phrase ever

    • @L.Pondera
      @L.Pondera Місяць тому +2

      I love the joke "People who get diarrhea from Taco Bell are weak and their bloodline should be forgotten."

  • @withlessAsbestos
    @withlessAsbestos Рік тому +92

    I like how Atun Shei always looks like he’s in a soap opera from the nineties.

  • @violetsapphire952
    @violetsapphire952 Рік тому +132

    "Younger and more beautiful and here to overthrow me and eclipse me."
    Three months later:
    Atun-Shei Films: 297k subscribers.
    Miniminuteman: 682K subscribers.
    I mean he wasn't wrong...

    • @Skiivin
      @Skiivin Рік тому +2

      GRRM wins again!

    • @topcatmatt
      @topcatmatt 10 місяців тому +10

      He's adorable, just wanna pinch his cheeks. Lol I got twas twink, mother-of-the-house energy anymore.
      Kids, die spectacularly before you become a middle aged gay.

    • @goldberg91
      @goldberg91 5 місяців тому +8

      now
      Atun-Shei Films: 376k subscribers.
      Miniminuteman: 1,61 mil. subscribers.
      he was right, very right.

  • @88porpoise
    @88porpoise Рік тому +78

    10:00 My biggest WTF on this one is, why would a megalith from 2,000 BC apply to the first of various months of the Gregorian calendar.
    Solstices and equinoxes, sure, but the first of August?

    • @riffdenbow9055
      @riffdenbow9055 Рік тому +6

      Probably cross-quarter days (the day between solstices & equinoxes). These are like Feb 2, May 1, Aug 1, & Oct 31 (approximately). Not super unusual for astro-archeological sites to have cross-quarter alignments.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise Рік тому +7

      @@riffdenbow9055 That would make sense, but the midway point between the solstices and adjacent equinoxes would be about the fifth or sixth of the month, the solstice/equinox would have to fall on the 15th for the midpoint to be the first, but they are the 20th or 21st.
      The use of the first would presumably be due to convenience in the current Gregorian calendar (possibly also impacted by Calendar drift under the Julian calendar). Something making no sense 2000 years before Julius Caesar.

    • @FakeSchrodingersCat
      @FakeSchrodingersCat Рік тому +3

      @@riffdenbow9055 The halfway points between the equinox and solstices don't fall on the first of any month. The only one you mentioned accurate is Feb 2nd. For Lughnasad which is the Summer one it usually falls on August 7th. The main reasons dates like these tend to be singled out by modern numerologists and fakes is because they are the first or last of our modern months so seem more important then what appears to be a random day to laypeople.

  • @davidwright7193
    @davidwright7193 Рік тому +152

    The lactose intolerance thing is more or less totally destroyed by the highest levels of lactose tolerance being found in Ireland who are definitely Celtic rather than Germanic. There are also elevated levels of lactose tolerance in Bantu and Masai populations. It definitely evolved in place as a result of agricultural practice rather than descending from an ancestral population.

    • @509Gman
      @509Gman Рік тому +11

      It was a contortion level stretch to begin with.

    • @eX1st4132
      @eX1st4132 Рік тому

      no no no, the germanic peoples only have high lactose tolerance because they descend from *milk drinking aryans*

    • @IONATVS
      @IONATVS Рік тому +32

      Yup, LOTS of different populations figured out and relied on dairy as a supplemental food source, and lactose tolerance is higher in ALL those populations, regardless of race, creed or color. Mongolians and the native peoples of the Andes are other major examples.

    • @gazeboist4535
      @gazeboist4535 Рік тому +12

      IIRC there are ten or so distinct lines of descent for lactose tolerance ID'd in genetic surveys.

    • @sirbig8292
      @sirbig8292 Рік тому

      I guarantee that the counter argument for that is going to be "Irish aren't white!"

  • @Hiraeth2000
    @Hiraeth2000 Рік тому +148

    The Duo of Historical Comedy Has United

    • @lth5015
      @lth5015 Рік тому +2

      The Duo of Historical Comedy and Archaeologist Comedy Has United. Thank you very much.

  • @fritzophrenia3146
    @fritzophrenia3146 Рік тому +50

    "The federal government was a very racist institution... ʷᵃˢ"
    Had to rewind just to made sure I caught that lol

  • @MarvinCZ
    @MarvinCZ Рік тому +24

    Däniken's doctorate isn't just in an unrelated field. It's honorary (Dr.h.c.), i.e. without any studies at all. He got it from the University of Bolivia.

  • @gazeboist4535
    @gazeboist4535 Рік тому +31

    2:25:15 Jefferson is a fascinating figure to me specifically because of the way he condemns himself, and the way that hypocrisy makes it so difficult to figure out how he compares, ethically, to a Washington or a Jackson, who more straightforwardly did some things that were good, and did other, distinct things that were obviously horrible to a modern observer. It's this strange dynamic where he's actively fighting against the expansion of slavery while simultaneously being a rapist and, well, a slaver. It gives a sense that there is, at least perhaps, a great deal of tension between Thomas the individual and the head of the Jefferson household.

    • @dashiellgillingham4579
      @dashiellgillingham4579 Рік тому +2

      My Dad thinks of Jefferson as a very good lawyer. The man was very good at making arguments, every which way. So he did. If it made his argument stronger, he would use it, regardless of wether he’d said the opposite thing before.

    • @gazeboist4535
      @gazeboist4535 Рік тому +3

      ​@@dashiellgillingham4579 But then what do we do with his actions? He wrote and seems to have genuinely fought for a clause in the 1784 Land Ordinance that would have established a western boundary for slavery, preventing its expansion. And yet he continued to hold hundreds of people in slavery for the next forty years. You could say that he thought the people of Virginia, the Carolinas, Maryland, and Georgia were simply exceptions to a general rule against holding slaves, but that seems to contradict most of the rest of what he fought for. That's what I mean about condemning himself, and why I distinguish him from a largely unrepentant slaveholder like Washington who happened to have done other things that were good.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Рік тому

      One trap we should never fall into is judging the actions individuals strictly by the moral standards of our time.

    • @gazeboist4535
      @gazeboist4535 Рік тому +6

      @@mpetersen6 What does it mean to judge, here? Jefferson and all his immediate victims are dead. His residual victims and beneficiaries are affected by much more than his personal actions. There is no rectifying the past, not directly. If we wish to learn from him, we must decide what he did right and what he did wrong, and seek to understand why he did those things. What we cannot do is let one interfere with the other: either to let our judgement of his actions decide our understanding of his reasons, or to let our understanding of his beliefs dictate our feeling on his deeds.

  • @eldorados_lost_searcher
    @eldorados_lost_searcher Рік тому +76

    My first encounter with Miniminuteman, although he's popped up in my recommendation feed (the Baghdad Battery one) a couple of times. I ignored him, because I keep getting conspiracy crap from the algorithm. Gonna check his channel out, now that he's shown himself to be a reasonable person.
    Also, more Shakespeare, please!

    • @B4ndG33k1
      @B4ndG33k1 Рік тому +18

      This is my first encounter with Atun-Shei Films for exactly the same reason, LOL. I'm a fan of Miniminuteman so I checked this out to support him. I'm happy to have found a new (to me) UA-camr in the niche!

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Рік тому +9

      @@B4ndG33k1
      Welcome to the party! We have history, suffering, and comedy.

    • @Frommerman
      @Frommerman Рік тому +13

      @@B4ndG33k1 Checkmate Lincolnites. Watch all of it. Great content tearing apart every facet of the Lost Cause myth in US Civil War history. Manages to be pretty funny despite the dire subject.
      Also the Witchfinder General series is peak comedy.

    • @B4ndG33k1
      @B4ndG33k1 Рік тому +3

      @@eldorados_lost_searcher Thanks, glad to be here! I've already watched the VVitchfinder General series, and I'm hooked 😃

    • @B4ndG33k1
      @B4ndG33k1 Рік тому +6

      @@Frommerman I just finished the Witchfinder General! I highly recommend Miniminuteman's Awful Archaeology series! It's incredibly satisfying to watch him rip pseudoarcheology apart.

  • @HyenaDandy
    @HyenaDandy Рік тому +7

    in re: Ghost tours - Reminds me of the sign-off on the vampire tour I took in New Orleans in... I think '07?
    "And you want to know the best tip for making sure a vampire doesn't follow you home?" *pause* "Remember to tip your tour guide"

  • @BethDiane
    @BethDiane Рік тому +8

    Amazing that Erich von Däniken is still active. We had a class session debunking Chariots of the Gods in one of my high school social studies classes.

    • @calibcarmichael6356
      @calibcarmichael6356 Рік тому +1

      For the best they teach you that skill to truly think for yourself I'm proud of your highschool

  • @casperchristiansen2458
    @casperchristiansen2458 Рік тому +86

    Fun fact, Steiner was a follower of Helena Blavatsky till he figured Theosophy wasn't Eurocentric enough, so he founded his own belief system called Anthroposophy. Unsurprisingly, he was a weird ass guy.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise Рік тому

      A virulent anti-Semite who got in trouble with the Nazis for his opposition to violence against Jewish people.
      Weird is right.

    • @Vesta_the_Lesser
      @Vesta_the_Lesser Рік тому +17

      when I hear "wasn't Eurocentric enough" I get nauseous

    • @christianwhalen9263
      @christianwhalen9263 Рік тому +17

      Can you imagine getting cornered at a dinner party by some guy who wants to talk to you about this new anthro-theology he founded

    • @casperchristiansen2458
      @casperchristiansen2458 Рік тому +6

      @@christianwhalen9263 "One word Benjamin. FACELESS DOLLS."

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Рік тому +2

      @@samlosco8441 What ethno-religions other than Judaism are there?

  • @RafaelSCalsaverini
    @RafaelSCalsaverini Рік тому +43

    Super cute to see Andy genuinely interested and caring about Milo in the end there, asking about how he's doing, discussing UA-cam career, etc.

  • @teucer915
    @teucer915 Рік тому +45

    You know how for the last decade "science communication" has been a recognized field, distinct from doing the science? Well, Milo, you're the best archeology communicator I know of.

  • @giladpellaeon1691
    @giladpellaeon1691 Рік тому +53

    Yay! New Englander crossover! Half expected Andy to voice the distain of the Witchfinder General on the mention of Milo living in Rhode Island.

  • @Carlos-Mora
    @Carlos-Mora Рік тому +105

    Saying "I believe I'm half Aryan" instead of Germanic it's like saying "I have Roman ancestors" instead of Italian. Technically correct, but it's all about the implications

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 Рік тому +2

      Not sure whats wrong with being proud of roman heritage? Wouldn't question if someone was proud to be zulu or descended from genghis khan

    • @arcticwulf5796
      @arcticwulf5796 Рік тому +21

      @@mondaysinsanity8193 roman heritage? Almost everyone who have ancestors in Europe are Roman descendents.
      That was a long time ago and people have moved. Almost everyone in Latin America is Roman descend, because the Iberia was under roman rule and the people were romans.
      You have a over a 1000 years of population movement and mixing.

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 Рік тому +1

      @@arcticwulf5796 i know this. Not sure your point? Ancestry is ancestry. I mean im explicitly not for the record im scottish, german and norse lmao but still

    • @arcticwulf5796
      @arcticwulf5796 Рік тому

      @@mondaysinsanity8193 problem is people using "proud of your heritage" as a mask to claim racial superioirity or to deliberately further hate crimes against a speficic group of people.
      You are not born yesterday, you should know this.
      I'm half Aryan is clearly meant to claim superioirity. We know the context of weaponized racism.

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 Рік тому +1

      @@arcticwulf5796 i mean yeah half aryan is pretty weird. Especially since it kinda isnt a thing really. But he equated with saying your "roman"
      Which is perfectly normal thing to think is cool?
      Embracing your ancestors doesnt make you racist and isnt wrong. Making assumptions based on that is in itself prejudice. Judge someone for being racist when they are actually racist. Assumptions make you welll....

  • @peterhudson23
    @peterhudson23 Рік тому +14

    More King Phillip's War videos?
    HELL. YES.
    The Civil War brought me to this channel, but I became incredibly fascinated watching just the couple videos he's done on KPW. Totally would've bought his board game if I had the money, and a group of people who'd be into playing it

  • @daved2352
    @daved2352 Рік тому +10

    Atun-Shei's lighting and resolution and blue shirt is giving real 90's TV vibes.

    • @jennerhardin8138
      @jennerhardin8138 6 місяців тому +1

      Atun-shei reminds me of the main character's friend from the show Early Edition. A very 90s show.

  • @davidwright7193
    @davidwright7193 Рік тому +22

    Freddy Mercury was born in Zanzibar to a Parsi-Indian family who practiced Zoroastrianism. He is about as “aryan” has Ho Chi Min. But from a group who are included in the block to which the term was originally applied by 19th Century racists rather than 20th Century racists.

  • @LauraSweet99
    @LauraSweet99 5 місяців тому +6

    "The zoomers love him" ....
    Gen x here....
    I love how totally New England Milo is. Represent, homie!! We need people to see the real New Englander deal. Thank you, Milo.

    • @margaretwordnerd5210
      @margaretwordnerd5210 Місяць тому

      I'm a Boomer who loves Milo' s work. He's young enough to be my grandchild, but he gives good information in a charmingly irreverent style.

  • @menoneednotag
    @menoneednotag Рік тому +22

    not the cinematic universe I was expecting, but the one I'm 100% here for.

  • @jacoboconnell7518
    @jacoboconnell7518 Рік тому +13

    I'd think something about what we call the "Bronze Age Collapse" would be nice to have a historical first hand account from, could fill in some gaps potentially in what we know about the event

  • @TitenSxull
    @TitenSxull Рік тому +108

    Disappointingly watching this as a recording means I missed the Invasion of the British Sex Chat-Bots. This was great. I appreciate the discussion of how easy it is to fall down the rabbit hole without ever realizing that there is racism at the root of a lot of these beliefs. As a youth I was a fan of the ancient astronaut hypothesis even if I never believed it fully BUT I had no idea how much of it was based in goofy racist theories until much much later.
    I remember the first time I heard the idea that it was all based in racism I was confused, even though by that point I'd come around to the other side and started debunking the bad science of AAH. It really isn't something that people talk about enough and it makes me glad I'm subbed to the both of you.
    Also bringing up the racism that creeps in when people talk about the Indo-Europeans. It's annoying because every time I go to look for information and try to learn about PIE language and people and what we actually know I have to sit there and skim through first to make sure it's not N-zi propaganda. Such a shame.

    • @HessianHunter
      @HessianHunter Рік тому +5

      The thing you said about PIE studies is such a bummer bc a linguistic and cultural lineage that now spans from India to Scandinavia so effectively blows up the modern concept of race. It's exactly the reason I find Indo-European stuff so fascinating.

    • @TitenSxull
      @TitenSxull Рік тому

      @@HessianHunter One of the problems with racists and fascists like n-zis is they don't have anything of their own so they have to appropriate stuff from other sources and cultures and reinterpret it to justify their kooky ideas. So they take something that very clearly disagrees with their bigoted nonsensical views of human development and reinterpret it for their ends. They did the same thing with Norse myth, Vikings and Nordic culture as well taking symbols and history from that mythology so now anytime I want to learn about those subjects I have to do a double take to make sure they're not full of shit.
      It's tough because most laypeople just trying to innocently learn about history aren't going to know they're being misled.
      Total tangent but this is why it bothers me that many parents, mostly Republican ones, don't want their kids to learn about racism or race in school. Fuck that. If I had kids I'd want them to come out of school fully equiped to dismantle racist arguments the way John Wick dismantles nameless henchmen.

    • @dashiellgillingham4579
      @dashiellgillingham4579 Рік тому

      I’m of the opinion that every possible PIE language can be explained by the fact all of the languages those sounds can be found in are hemmed into a geographic region that is difficult to exit, therefore, if you trace the root sounds long enough, you will eventually find random sounds from random peoples throughout that region that eventually became the sound every modern language in that region uses. Not a language, but the product of a linguistic basin, in which the bottom has become so mixed up by time as to appear like a single thing.

    • @jasonfenton8250
      @jasonfenton8250 Рік тому

      ​@@dashiellgillingham4579 Are India and Italy really both trapped within the same "basin?" While Rome had contact with India they were hardly neighbors, yet Latin and sanskrit have remarkable similarities. PIE accounts for this.

  • @Gonzovil
    @Gonzovil Рік тому +23

    Really interesting video, as expected.
    P.S: Not sure how well known this is, but "Many enemies, much honor" is one of Mussolini's most famous quotes...What an interesting coincidence that Von Daniken would be quoting him...

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Рік тому +9

      The editor for _Chariots of the Gods_ was Utz Utermann, a former editor of _Völkischer Beobachter_ which was the official newspaper for the Nazi Party.

    • @joyshokeir1593
      @joyshokeir1593 Рік тому +5

      @@joshuahadams Holy shit. The English Wikipedia page omits that info, but it's on the German Wikipedia page. And he was the chief editor of the Hitler Youth magazine. I always thought that Chariots of the Gods was eurocentric and here I am learning that it was edited by a freaking Nazi.

    • @catriona_drummond
      @catriona_drummond Рік тому +2

      "Many Enemies, much honour!" ("Viel Feind', viel Ehr'!"is actually an old German proverb that predates the Nazis or Mussolini by over 400 years. It was coined by Georg von Frundsberg, a very successful German Landsknecht mercenary leader, 1513 after the Battle of Creanza, a victory over the Venetians.
      LIke so many things it was abused by the Nazis, which even called an SS-tank-Division "Frundsberg".
      The saying was never uncommon for general use in Germany to this very time.

  • @bruceismay5440
    @bruceismay5440 Рік тому +23

    The collaboration we didn’t know we wanted, didn’t deserve but we truely needed it and got it

  • @fanfywriter8727
    @fanfywriter8727 Рік тому +7

    My history professor made a huge point to try to get into who the people were and what shaped them. No matter who they were. It was awesome and shaped my understanding of history and people forever. Like finding out that Lenin's brother being a pro democracy advocate who was hung by Tsars, and Lenin's resulting vengeance against them predating his eventual embrace of communism as an ideology, was really interesting to see these people as people and not historical figures.

  • @Renotrigger
    @Renotrigger 7 місяців тому +4

    I am sooo old. Old enough to be both your dad, but you are both smarter than me, when it comes to History, and I love history, THANK YOU BOTH.

  • @P-nk-m-na
    @P-nk-m-na Рік тому +4

    you can see milo's last brain cell die as he hears atun-shei say he's reading an erich von däniken blog post to him

  • @Niarbeht
    @Niarbeht Рік тому +8

    I'm amazed that you made it out alive from this. I would've thought this stream would end in alcohol poisoning.

  • @widgetfilms
    @widgetfilms Рік тому +27

    Just found out that Milo went to college at the same time as me, in the same town as me. Would've loved to meet this dude at some point.

  • @theamethyst6483
    @theamethyst6483 Рік тому +7

    Oh my God, two of my favorite educational UA-camrs collabing with each other

  • @509Gman
    @509Gman Рік тому +11

    1:55:49
    Freddy Mercury was from a Zoroastrian practicing ethnic group originally from Persia that migrated to Zanzibar at some point. The “actual Aryans” were also from Persia.

    • @Shakazaramesh
      @Shakazaramesh Рік тому +2

      The only people who have ever historically used the word Aryan to identify themselves have been from Iran and northern India. If anyone has claim to the word it's people like Mercury.

    • @509Gman
      @509Gman Рік тому +1

      @@Shakazaramesh that’s… what I said?

    • @Shakazaramesh
      @Shakazaramesh Рік тому +2

      @@509Gman Oh yeah, I think I replied to the wrong person.

    • @dashiellgillingham4579
      @dashiellgillingham4579 Рік тому

      I’m pretty sure “Iranian” itself is just what the descendant of those people still called themselves after Persia won its independence, and the state adopted their name in order to distance itself from the colonial era.

  • @geraldgrenier8132
    @geraldgrenier8132 Рік тому +12

    The first time I heard the phrase "The War of Northern Agresstion, was on the Berverly Hillbillies, but then again I lived In MA till I was almost 8 before Moving to New Zealand for the rest of my childood

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Рік тому +6

      I didn't hear the term until ninth grade history, when my New York classroom was invaded by a student teacher originally from Virginia.
      Honestly, she was just talking about the difference between how her grandmother talked about the "woh-ah," as opposed to how it was taught in the late nineties-early noughties.

    • @bookcat123
      @bookcat123 Рік тому +4

      Yeah… first heard it from my 8th grade history teacher. In New York State. I still haven’t quite figured out, looking back, if that was a clumsy attempt to introduce nuance and looking outside your own framework or if he truly meant it. His sarcasm was hard to catch sometimes…
      This was the same teacher who did a “if the Nazis were in charge” thought experiment and went through almost everyone in the class going “you’re dead, you’re dead, you’re dead” citing either last name or a physical feature. Certainly both unsettling and memorable. Which I think he meant it to be.

  • @ZilchPotato
    @ZilchPotato Рік тому +54

    I am but a wretched sinner, utterly unworthy of God’s love. A fountain of pollution is deep within my nature, and I livest as a winter tree: unprofitable, fit only to be hewn down and burned. My only redemption may be that I might steep my life in prayer, and hope that God sees fit to show mercy upon my corrupted soul.

    • @AtunSheiFilms
      @AtunSheiFilms  Рік тому +42

      A godly comment

    • @ZilchPotato
      @ZilchPotato Рік тому +10

      @@AtunSheiFilms ...as Godly as it is relevant to this particular dialogic pamphlet, your worship!

    • @Bluebelle51
      @Bluebelle51 Рік тому +6

      I am totally embroidering that on a pillow

    • @gwtpictgwtpict4214
      @gwtpictgwtpict4214 Рік тому +5

      "I livest as a winter tree: unprofitable, fit only to be hewn down and burned". Can I just point here that I like apples, so, no.

  • @charliebrenton4421
    @charliebrenton4421 Рік тому +7

    Is it just me, or does anyone else regard these Atun Shei crossovers with the same glee as an Avengers movie? Andy is always down for a collabo and I fucking love him for it!!

  • @mjisabelle18
    @mjisabelle18 Рік тому +22

    I just recently discovered Miniminuteman. Love his stuff.

  • @jon-paulfilkins7820
    @jon-paulfilkins7820 Рік тому +23

    When they both hit a million subscribers they are going to have a drinking game to Mel Gibson's historical films.... Will they survive?
    😉

  • @dianeinsertlastnamehere7296
    @dianeinsertlastnamehere7296 Рік тому +26

    Milo literally grew up near my mom, went to the same college as my dad, and moved to the same tiny little state I live in currently.
    What a tiny little fucking world.

  • @colinsmith929
    @colinsmith929 Рік тому +14

    That's surprising Confederates hated Jefferson. I figured his agrarianism and anti federalism would appeal to them but I guess his very mild anti slavery attitudes and deism turned them off. I know they were just short of erecting temples to washington to pray at, in their love for him. I know Teddy Roosevelt hated jefferson for his agrarianism and anti federalism.

  • @koosh138
    @koosh138 Рік тому +2

    One piece of lost history that I'd be interested in knowing is that during in the 1700s a surgeon was supposed to examine some bones that were (by legend) the bones of King Arthur. Unfortunately, as the bines were being shipped, the ship was lost to the sea.

  • @dot.5467
    @dot.5467 8 місяців тому +2

    Loving both of these two, seeing them collab made me screech like a scrawling baby bat.

    • @dot.5467
      @dot.5467 8 місяців тому +1

      THIS CAME OUT A YEAR AGO HOW DID I MISS IT

  • @thtben
    @thtben Рік тому +6

    The "many enemies, much honor" thing is a German expression ("Viel Feind, viel Ehr'"). It's most often said by contrarians who are rightfully unpopular.^^

  • @longlivethesheet4561
    @longlivethesheet4561 Рік тому +140

    Finally the titans of ahistorical misinformation have united

  • @mountainhun
    @mountainhun Рік тому +3

    Stellar alignments are amazing for psuedoarchaeology. :P You could throw a handful of stones on a football stadium, and odds are you would find at least one "meaningful alignment" between any two stones.

    • @machematix
      @machematix Рік тому

      And the others would point to special ley line points. Those stones must be magic crystals from ancient Atlantian aliens from the Bible!

  • @BufusTurbo92
    @BufusTurbo92 Рік тому +38

    I remember researching about Steiner.
    The rabbit hole was deep and full of crackpottery.
    Also, "many enemies, much honor" is LITERALLY A FASCIST MOTTO FROM THE 1930S

    • @NKDuisburg02
      @NKDuisburg02 Рік тому +2

      it's a sentence linked to a soldier or Landsknecht named Georg von Frundsberg. He lived between 1473 and 1528 and this saying is used in German speaking military since then and to this day. There just happened to be 12 fascists years inbetween the other 500. Dont make everything German Nazi pls ...

    • @BufusTurbo92
      @BufusTurbo92 Рік тому +5

      @@NKDuisburg02 fascist as in fascist italy. If I were referencing nazi stuff I'd have said nazi.

  • @AggieBlues
    @AggieBlues Рік тому +4

    EEEEEEE! I just discovered Milo! and Atun-shei and Milo together! BE STILL MY HEART!

  • @SniperHarry
    @SniperHarry Рік тому

    With or without the drinking game, I truly enjoyed this video. I hope you will do more of these 'talks.' Thank you for doing this.

  • @eliorahg
    @eliorahg Рік тому +2

    How am I only seeing this now? This is amazing!

  • @icedragonaftermath
    @icedragonaftermath Рік тому +9

    I feel like the "It's (Probably) Not Aliens" guys need to do an episode with you guys at some point.

  • @Steven_Andreyechen
    @Steven_Andreyechen Рік тому

    So glad to see these two doing something together, especially doing something so insightful and entertaining!

  • @jimmyisawkward
    @jimmyisawkward Рік тому +12

    This was a great chat, love from Washington (even tho you left us behind Milo xD)

  • @keystohellanddeath
    @keystohellanddeath Рік тому +16

    Super fun chat! I enjoyed the tangents from both of these wonderful UA-camrs. Great way to spend an evening!

  • @zzirSupeR
    @zzirSupeR 3 місяці тому +1

    i need more atun-shei and miniminuteman.

  • @M.M.83-U
    @M.M.83-U Рік тому +2

    32:26 YES!!!
    Great video, you two have a lot of "war of religion" era hair content possibilities.

  • @pineappleginseng1557
    @pineappleginseng1557 Рік тому +1

    I didn't know this video existed, but I'm glad it does. Well-done, gentlemen!

  • @ComradeMarlow
    @ComradeMarlow Рік тому

    Great to see you two collaboratin'

  • @robhinds8150
    @robhinds8150 Рік тому +3

    Atun-Shei is bloody hot and I really hope that he gets plenty!!!

  • @achristiananarchist2509
    @achristiananarchist2509 Рік тому +6

    I don't know if you have ever played any of the Elder Scrolls games, but in Skyrim "milk drinker" is an insult used by Nords and Orcs to refer to wimps, so hearing this dude refer to "milk drinking aryans" makes me giggle.

    • @shanestevens5352
      @shanestevens5352 Рік тому

      I thought the same thing. And I have to say that dude certainly is a milk drinker

    • @nottherealpaulsmith
      @nottherealpaulsmith Рік тому

      to my knowledge, it was a real anglish insult at some point
      and specifically, it meant someone who couldn't hold their alcohol

  • @ms.interpreted7110
    @ms.interpreted7110 Рік тому +13

    Bummed I missed watching live, but this is still so great!

  • @skipads5141
    @skipads5141 22 дні тому

    Yes! The meeting i was hoping for and hadn't seen yet.
    👍👍

  • @hansgunter2192
    @hansgunter2192 Рік тому +1

    I love to see my two favorite history content creater do content together

  • @BacJaw
    @BacJaw 5 місяців тому +1

    Atun-Shei looks like Trevor from WKUK. Specifically from the video of him telling us that it's illegal to say that you want to fire a mortar into the White House from the roof of the Rockerfeller building.

    • @CordeliaAurora
      @CordeliaAurora 29 днів тому

      And lucky for us, illegal doesn't necessarily mean immoral 😎
      (It's probably immoral too idk I'm not an ethics committee)

  • @shannsimms9072
    @shannsimms9072 Рік тому +1

    Love both you guys

  • @jess_aaron
    @jess_aaron Рік тому +3

    Damn! I’m sorry I missed it! What a fantastic stream!

  • @Bergendal_2003
    @Bergendal_2003 Рік тому +1

    Fuck yeah, both of my favourite history UA-camrs streaming together? My dreams have come true!

  • @bandenere7774
    @bandenere7774 Рік тому +1

    "Many enemies, much honor" is literally a slogan used by Mussolini and his blackshirts.
    So we can safely assume Eric's not biased at all.

  • @tinalanger7589
    @tinalanger7589 5 місяців тому +2

    Re: assertion that CSA just wanted peace and to be left alone--ha! Then why did it start off seizing Federal property e.g. armories? I learned about all the armed action taken by the South before Lincoln was even inaugurated on one of Atun-Shei's videos. Clearly the South was contemplating something other than peace. Like burglars who come armed, the South was not adverse to using violence to get its way.

  • @stuffbinaboxdos
    @stuffbinaboxdos Рік тому +4

    2 of my favorite UA-camrs in the same vid? I'm winning like Charlie Sheen!😂

  • @zaynemeadows8673
    @zaynemeadows8673 Рік тому +4

    I hope this comes across in the right way, but the two of you are a dynamite pairing together.
    Just being able to listen to you banter like this was totally captivating for a few hours. I really hope we see more of you collaborating. You could go nuclear levels of growth as a duo. Did you guys say you wanted to make a short film together?
    That's a deeply cool idea.

  • @PicturesofTravel
    @PicturesofTravel 2 місяці тому

    Love this stuff

  • @mikellangela777
    @mikellangela777 3 місяці тому

    I was looking through your old videos the other day and was kinda shocked to see you only started in like 2019 or 2020. I coulda swore I remembered you being around before that

  • @U1TR4F0RCE
    @U1TR4F0RCE Рік тому +4

    For mystery hill Ken Feder has talked about it and read a bit from an archaeology dig that did happen there. It was an old cider mill which is why there’s the big raised stone and the first guy who thought it was special thought because there were rocks and the mill was built into the hill that it must be like the irish monks chambers so he moved rocks and reconstructed it to make it look like what he thought it was.

  • @dragonmaster613
    @dragonmaster613 Рік тому +4

    You guys should do this more often, like other duos of UA-camrs do. Example being Suris and Ocean Keltoi with their Podcast.

  • @88porpoise
    @88porpoise Рік тому +7

    On von Daniken, wasn't Chariots of the Gods literally re-written by a former editor of the official Nazi Party newspaper?

  • @ligh7ningx7
    @ligh7ningx7 Рік тому

    great show guys

  • @bettschwere
    @bettschwere Рік тому

    i'm so sad i missed the stream, i've been crossing my fingers and hoping for this collab for a while

  • @Skelly57
    @Skelly57 Рік тому

    Truly a banger of the video

  • @BugCatcher89
    @BugCatcher89 Рік тому

    Its comforting to hear someone say “you know” as many times in one sentence as i do

  • @halbaker1075
    @halbaker1075 Рік тому +1

    Oh, my word! I roared out loud at, "Should I probably put more in this?" As an almost-retired, Navy vet from a Massachusetts town that was originally a Praying Indian Village called Nashoba, I say, "Cheers!"

  • @Glaucus08
    @Glaucus08 Рік тому +42

    Assuming the Irish Megalithic site you're talking about near the start is Newgrange? Brú na Bóinne really is an impressive site, and there's a number of other, smaller, passage tombs there too! These don't have the same 20th century restoration and conservation work, so when you go there you aren't visually primed by the assumptions of how it 'should' have looked

  • @janegael
    @janegael Рік тому +1

    Shit I missed it! This was AWESOME! Have Milo back soon.

  • @PobortzaPl
    @PobortzaPl Рік тому +1

    He is a Dollar Store Quentyn Martell to Atun-Shei's Dollar Store Jaime Lannister

  • @whiteroomentertainmenttv8371
    @whiteroomentertainmenttv8371 16 годин тому

    This is the collaboration I've always needed

  • @mrpieceofwork
    @mrpieceofwork Місяць тому +1

    "Two white guys from MA solved racism" - probably the most cursed statement I did ever hear lol

  • @lboiv001
    @lboiv001 Рік тому

    My 2 favorite youtube historians....excellent!
    I wish UA-cam was around right when I got out of school.....would have enjoyed participating to the arena of ideas

  • @poochersmontgomery8825
    @poochersmontgomery8825 Рік тому

    What a great colab!

  • @ShadowRulah
    @ShadowRulah Рік тому

    I don't even understand the point in subscribing without ringing the bell- I'm subscribed to both of you and didn't know this happened for 9 months.

  • @titosyettos2689
    @titosyettos2689 Рік тому +2

    The least alcholic history teachers

  • @leonidas130
    @leonidas130 Рік тому

    Dude I swear to God I barely recognised you without the Civil War uniform. Keep up the good work

  • @TheCthultist
    @TheCthultist Рік тому

    Oh damn. Came across both of your channels independently within a month of each other. Had no idea you did a crossover.
    This is my kind of suffering!