Therapist reacts to Sick Boi Ren
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2024
- Therapist analyzes the lyrics of Sick Boi by Ren to talk about the importance of differentiating between if someone is sick or hurt. Often times when people seek help from professionals they are treated like a problem that needs to be fixed and this only deepens the wounding they feel. Instead, they deserve to be treated like a person who deserves compassion.
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Has anyone explained Ren's medical history to you? Long story short, he went in with a list of symptoms, and they misdiagnosed him with depression, bipolar, and chronic fatigue syndrome. It wasn't until years later, after him not giving up and spending a lot of money on specialists that they discovered he actually has Lyme disease.
Diazepam, Everybody Drops, Chalk Outlines (live), and Lost All Faith are compulsive listening to Ren's journey.
He said that he could get out of bed for years, and he thought he was going to die before he turned 30.
They don't care... that's what "free" healthcare is all about. There's no competition among doctors or therapists, they all just get caseloads assigned to them, so you can be the worst therapist in the world, and it doesn't matter. Nobody cares about anything except shuffling you in and out of there as fast as possible. It's "care" reduced to the same kind of cold bureaucracy that you find at the registry of motor vehicles. You're a number.
In short yes, Any time we approach or bring a song to Taylor that we want her to react to I/we do a ton of research. Sometimes all the information can get fuzzy. We take great care in doing our best to respect the personal stories and songs.
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@@HeartSupport Makes sense, good deal. I'm new to the channel, so I wasn't sure how it worked. In that case, I agree with everyone that has said y'all should do Chalk Outlines next. Not only does it fit the mental health theme, it showcases Ren's absolutely amazing singing voice.
You should check out ‘chalk outlines’ by Ren with Chinchilla. Make sure you do the live one. If fits with the mental health theme
Good call. I'd suggest adding "Diazepam" to that list.
I concur.
Also Dominos. Su!cide. Diazepam. The triology "The Tale of Jenny and Screech", plus the 'Instagram Tales: Screech" for context.
THIS
This absolutely.
Your reaction made me cry. Therapists who are trauma informed are so very rare. I had one "therapist" a few years back who actually looked at my chart and said, "So you've been through therapy off and on for years; so what is it you expect from me?" I just quietly got up and left the session. Ren is such a beacon of light and talent speaking and singing the words that are inside so many of us. I'm glad you found him and thank you for your compassionate reaction.
Dang, I am so sorry this happened to you. It breaks my heart to hear stories like this. It's clear you needed compassion and that's what you deserved from a therapist who is supposed to offer exactly that. I'm proud of you for leaving and knowing it wasn't a great fit for you. That can be a really challenging thing to do. I hope that if you try therapy again you find someone who is a good fit. In the meantime I'm glad you have this music and it's meaning
I've been in and out for half my life and this question always comes up. Often in the first session. Over the years I've learned to just be honest: "Nothing". I expect nothing.
No one has proved me wrong. I'm just there to tick the necessary boxes for me to keep getting welfare and they're only there to tick those boxes for me. Vitamins, sleeping tabs, anti-depressants of many varieties. Nothing does anything and the therapist is just sitting there taking notes and looking at their books as if the answer is in there.
My personal conclusion is that I can't be fixed. With the right help I might be able to live with my baggage, but I wont ever fix it.
I've had a similar experience and it nearly made me lose what little faith I still had in the mental health system. To just feel so utterly helpless and lost and just wanting to tell them 'I just don't want to feel like this anymore' but knowing there isn't a magic wand they can wave to make things better, especially when you've already tried so many things...
This is what happens when you can't afford therapy, you get a over worked nurse going though a checklist. There is no help less you can afford private help. This is why we have music, least we know we're not alone.
Chalk Outlines (live) for you next!
She ain't heard nothin' yet.
@@tribute1965yep, the rabbit hole is deep
Please review this song
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Masterpiece
Your contribution to the RENiverse is very much appreciated. Thank you
Calling someone 'hurt' switches them from a checklist to be finished to a patient that needs healing. It's a very important distinction.
Seriously... in all my 56 years ive Never come across such an artist!
He Truly has more layers than an onion, more Bars than a prison!!!
As a therapist... you feel into the Mount Rushmore of rabbit holes!!!
Trust us... You Cannot find a Bad song feom Ren, and Almost all of them are deep enough for your reaction!!!
Woody totally agree. I'm 56 on the 10-04-24, and his the best I've ever come across, and I've liked lots of music, but Ren his something else .
Shakespeare bard of the future, nothing out there like him. Nobody compares.!!!
Listen to NF he will blow your mind
@@CorvusCroWeaperI am about to check out NF right now :)
Given your reaction to this, Seven Sins (the opening track on Ren's Sick Boi album) would probably be a good song for you to check out. It delves into the abyss of pain. It's both breathtaking and heartbreaking.
Yes! I second this ❤ it's my favorite
Definitely one of my favorites by him!
He was misdiagnosed for a decade. Early in the song he says "bitten by a tick". He got Lyme Disease and was misdiagnosed with mental health disorders. Some of his early Vlogs when he was really sick are heartbreaking.
Ren has dozens of songs equally as powerful as this dealing with his physical and mental struggles that started when he was 19. His Lyme disease wasn't properly diagnosed until he was 25. His story is one of triumph over terrible circumstances. More Ren please. You will not regret it.
After almost of a decade of being told it was "all in his head" Ren literally had to raise money and go to another country to find a specialist to get a proper diagnosis. He has a very conflicted view of the medical profession. Years of errors, but then treatment and help. He will always give credit to those that helped... but he'll never forget those who dismissed him. I often wonder if those who "treated" him know of him now... if they know they failed him. Chalk Outlines next please.
This is my favorite reaction. I love trauma-informed therapists. Thank you.
Ren is doing so much to bring awareness to mental health. Hes been though the fire and by telling his story he is giving a voice to the voiceless. Mental health has really only been taken seriously in the last say decade or so. And sadly so much of it is this assembly line treatment.
thank you Ren for being our Bard
How To Be Me by Ren and Chinchilla (the live version) is a must ❤
@RenMakesMusic I really hope you see this. This totally is my first experience with therapy. It was defeating at first, once I did try again it was very helpful and I was able to help the hurt. @heartsupport
@heartsupport this you?
Ren is remarkable. I agree with Ren. First time seeing a therapist,(Ever in my life) I experienced the same treatment. When you get the right Doctor or Therapist. It's Amazing. ❤
Great Reaction. 🙂
"Ren X Chinchilla - Chalk Outlines (live)" should be your next reaction for Ren. Also ... "Ren Ft. Bibi - Crutch" shows the pain and torture on Ren's physical body when he was at his worst with his Lyme Disease misdiagnosis. Crutch was before he had been diagnosed.
I second a reaction to "Crutch"absolutely beautiful video ❤️
You seem like you're a wonderful therapist who genuinely cares and listens to people. So, thanks for being that! I had my autoimmune disease misdiagnosed as bipolar and psychosomatic disorder for 15 years, so my story is very similar to Ren's. It's extremely difficult to experience, and I'm glad there are mental health professionals out there trying their best to just be decent, empathetic human beings for those of us who are struggling.
Omg you have blown my mind with this. There are so many people who need to know they aren't broken they are hurt.
You made me cry with that.
The people you help are blessed to have you. I'm going to share this with communities built up around Ren and his mental health fight
I'm so glad you liked it and resonated with it. Thank you for the support. We're here for you - T
As someone who has struggled with chronic depression for 50 years I feel compelled to acknowledge you for your approach...
Sending you Love and Light on your journey...
Thank you!
You can see now why Ren has moved so many of us. He’s uncovering the reality that so many of us live every day. 💔
You seem to be an amazing individual. Full of compassion . Thank you for your reaction and speaking to the message of this song. 🙌💛🇨🇦😔
I'm sorry you can relate to this. But I'm so grateful you have the music to help. Thank you for the support - T
@@HeartSupport Ty 😌💛🇨🇦
Welcome to the Ren community. Better late than never. I started watching you when I discovered Sleep Token back in September. Love your content
Ren is (in my opinion) the perfect example of how music can connect and heal...the way he explains our insides with words is something few are gifted with...I am thankful for every new person who discovers this same fact, and so glad you are heading steadily down the rabbit hole, as it were. Lots of love from KC 💜
The woman in this video is representative of at least half the mental health profession in my four decades experience as a patient. Do not hesitate to walk away and find someone else if you aren't being heard.
AMEN !
You'll love Chalk Outlines (live), you also might want to have a look at How to be me. Or perhaps Diazapam. It obligatory to do the tales of Jenny and Screech (full) and Money games pts 1,2 and 3.
I am 62 and have recently given up on therapy after waiting 18 months to be seen, and having 9 sessions. It was basically lists and leaflets of things to basically distract yourself, like put your head in a bucket of water, look for 5 object, touch 4 objects, smell 3 etc.. it made my anxiety worse. Ren's lyrics have helped my condition far more than the lists of distraction techniques that I was suggested. Ren has many songs that touch on his health, both physical and mental, and society, that I would love to see you react to, including, Chalk Outlines, Dominoes, Diazepam, Seven Sins, Dear God. to name a few. He also has a trilogy called Jenny and Screech (full) which focusses on domestic violence, so beware. if you want global/social commentary, 'The money game' trilogy is a must, and 'Crucify your culture'... and for grief, 'Suicide' and 'a Song for Joe' and 'Precious' by Ren's band, 'The Big Push' which are written about Ren's close childhood friend, Joe Hughes, who sadly took his life by jumping off a bridge and Ren arrived just a few minutes too late to save him after running from his apartment after receiving a phone call.. Lots to unpack.. ❤ BTW Ren also does a lot of other class happier light-hearted music and rap.
Hi friend, thank you so much for sharing your experience here. I'm so sorry that you waited so long and then STILL didn't get the help you needed and deserved. It's so disappointing to wait and even more disappointing that after all that waiting it didn't even help. It wasn't even worth it. Had to feel so deflating. I'm so glad that you have Ren and his music to help. Music is powerful and so are the communities around musicians. Hope you're feeling better. Glad you're here
@@HeartSupport Sadly - I experienced an 18 month waiting list too, back in 2014. Also made more infuriating by the little card they send out every 6 months apologising that you are still waiting and asking you to confirm that you are in fact still in need of mental health help. The UK NHS is good for a lot - but it falls short, very very short when it comes to mental health. After you finally make it to the top of the waiting list, you get a block of 6 sessions, the first is obviously used up by introductions and initial diagnosis. The remaining 5 sessions are only ever about teaching you coping skills - a sticking plaster, there is no time or money in the UK NHS Mental Health services to actually deal with the root cause. After your 6 sessions (which are 3 weeks apart) you go back on to the very long waiting list if you still need more support. And the hardest part (for me at least) - is that the telephone support that was available but rarely needed while you were having your 6 sessions, that's gone too. It feels like a lifeline has been removed - like you have been thrown out into the cold and now have to wait another 2 years before you can speak to someone again. In 3 sets of 6 sessions - the only thing I have come away with that is genuinely useful, is breathe in through the nose and out through mouth. That's it.
@@AndrewJonesMcGuire I've just finished 5 years of therapy, all paid for by me. My therapist explained the NHS model. 6 sessions. 1. Intros and what to expect. 2. And 3. Explore the issue and start actual therapy. 4 and 5 the actual work continues. 6. Outro. Continuing coping techniques.
So really only 3 actual therapy sessions. (I should say, that's not official in any way, just paraphrasing the way she explained it to me)
I hope you have better experiences in the future. Therapy was invaluable to me, and although I've spent thousands of pounds on it, I wouldn't ever want to have not done it. I'm so grateful to my therapist for all she did!
All the best for the future.
@@TheRealityleak yeah, sadly we can't all afford to go private. And yes, though you may be paraphrasing - it's pretty accurate. Every time I got my block of sessions, it was always a new psychologist - so session one was always wasted , going over old ground again (and fyi to the NHS, people who have mental health problems, typically don't enjoy having to introduce themselves to yet another psychologist).
I'm an LCSW and a therapist (and a lover of metal) as well, so I wanted to say thank you for reaffirming many of the things I believe and practice in my sessions.
Thank you for being here and the work you do!!! - T
Ren will see this! Hes like that! Hes one of us! The "System" will Never take hold of him!
Hes telling us what hes been thru... and Not giving advice... but instead hes making these issues Known!!!!
Do yourself a Favor... watch his 1 million subscriber video!
Then youll understand what is Ren!!!
I'm definitely going to check this out! - Taylor
@@HeartSupportanother Great artist... very similar to Ren... is Ronnie Radke of Falling in Reverse!
Highly Recommend ya do their "Popular Monster"!!!
It's right up your alley!
And... he's Unreal talented... like Ren!
Also... do his cover of Papa Roachs "Last Resort"!
I've loved their song for decades... yet never really *heard* the lyrics!
Again... Right up your alley!!!!
I agree with the request to watch 1 million subscribers thank you speech by Ren
What he says is relevant to most of Ren's music about his health
A giant yes to this!
I agree!!
He’s describing my 17 years dealing with the VA.
I get 25 minutes a month, and the one medication I take that I know I need more of, the second I bring it up…they blame it on something else and say we’ll touch base again in a month.
The VA had me on about 10 medications when I got out in 2007, and they always push more, except for the one I know that works.
Thank you so much for this reaction. It speaks to my own experiences, and it resonates with research I'm doing. Let me add my voice to the chorus saying that "Chalk Outlines" and "Seven Sins" would be excellent next steps down the Ren rabbit hole.
Loved your reactions to Ren! I've been seeing a therapist for almost two years and feel very blessed with his care and compassion, knowing that he is a safe space for me to share my trauma. However I have some friends who've had such bad experiences with therapists, it has shut them down from getting help they might need
Thank you for your support! And i'm SOOO GLAD! You have such a supportive therapist! - T
This reminds me of mental health with the veterans affairs doctors. Thanks for your content it helps me keep my head up
Glad we could help in any small way. Thank you for your service, and I'm so sorry that you can relate to the experience Ren is depicting here. You deserved to be listened to, heard and supported. Sending love - Taylor
Please never stop reacting to Ren. I love to see your thoughts... I'm feeling more and more depressed these days the more time goes on ... tried the last year to get an appointment to get therapy but all therapists i could reach in my area where full. Seeing you react to Ren is something like therapy for me, even if its just for the moment. I really love Ren and his music... it hits me so hard everytime and he's a lyrical genius.
I think I'd speak for many other people if i'd request you to react to 'Ren x Chinchilla - Chalk Outlines'... one of my personal faves when i wanna cry tbh.
much love from germany ♥
Oh I love that you have found Ren ❤ Great reaction and breakdown! I'm so looking forward to see you to dive deep in the Ren rabbithole. And oh my if you would try getting him on your channel for an interview/podcast/chat, would be awesome! I think he's still in treatment in Canada though ❤
We would LOVE to talk to Ren!! Maybe someday!
The medical industry runs on the saying "A patient cured is a customer lost"
I am so grateful I found this video! When I'm not listening to Ren's music, I am watching others react to Ren's music! I've seen so many reactors and it always gives me a buzz seeing their amazement and appreciation and how they interpret his songs.
For those of us who have been following him for some time now, and because of how he bares his soul so profoundly, not only through his music, but in interviews and BTS content etc. it gives a kind of insight into his mind that you don't normally get with most artists.
Because of this, I think all Renagades would agree that if Ren does see this video, he will be as grateful to you as you are to him for this reaction.
It felt like every time you stopped to discuss what you just saw, you were saying things that he directly addresses in the following part of the song. It was so satisfying predicting your excitement after talking about the way therapy has made him feel and then hitting play and his lyrics reflecting your own views.
I am gonna check out your other Ren reaction now but I feel like of all the "Sick Boi" reaction videos, yours stands out as one that completely validates and supports Ren's vision, and how he has been shaped by his experiences.
And on a more personal level, the way you discuss mental illness as a side effect of trauma and pain speaks to me and had me in genuine tears. The healing kind that come from actually feeling validated.
So thank you. If all therapists were like you then I feel that those of us with these problems would be coping far better, not just walking around with metaphorical band aids over our problems!
Thank you deeply! ❤
So glad to see another professional who understands and shows compassion. See so many bad therapist/doctors in our area that don’t care. Make me sick! Appreciate you and I’m sure all those you have helped do as well!
This is an excellent reaction to a Ren video I hoped Taylor would react to. She did not disappoint.
But Hurt boi, hurt boi, bitten by a shirt boi ... doesn't quite have the same impact. Great break down and reaction :o)
👑 This wins the comment section for me 🤣🤣🤣
Please react to Ren's Chalk Outlines...I think you'll adore psychoanalyzing the lyrics.
Thank you for saying everything you said here; I can’t tell you how much it helped me reframe what’s going on.
You've got to see his work 😂 I've never heard/seen music this uniting about health and mental issues. Jenny/screech ( you have to do the long one to get the effect) is about generational violence and never gets old. He has a whole series about struggling with depression and his friend in real life quits the game.. and then theres lighthearted stuff that still is of course, deep.
I really appreciate video and your take on things. Refreshing to see a therapist with their heart in the right place. Hurt people like myself need that acknowledgement in a safe space. Bless you.
He has several interviews you really autta watch for the needed Details to react to Ren!
He opens up on them, each one covers a little more!
Ren is a therapist Wet Dream client!!!
wish I had you as a therpist! Great insights. Keep up the good work
Great reaction. Thank you. 👍♥
It's a bit funny how you go into a rage when you watch the therapist. As if you were watching a real therapy session.
But it's "just" a music video. But your reaction (and I'm guessing you're not the only one who reacts this way) shows how perfect the video is. Great acting with all its details. Just brilliant.
I absolutely love Ren. His music always touches me 😢 I read during,,my recovery and therapy that we gave our minds an impossible task at a very early age to protect us from the bad and uncomfortable feelings. That hit extremely hard.
Thanks for these videos.
ooooo yes!! this is so true!
Yes! I've always said that everyone is broken in one way or another.
Ren is the best! 💛
Thank you so much for your reaction videos! My daughter has struggled with depression,anxiety and suicide. Thank you so much for breaking down these awesome songs by Ren:) It's battle but a battle worth fighting:))
“How does that make you feel” it hurt me when you said that
Thank you for this reaction. As a therapist, I think you would have great insight to some of twenty one pilots music. In particular, start with Car Radio, Migraine, Trees, and Guns for Hands.
OMG I love this persons way of thought, she’s so right
Thank you for your perspective on mental health.
This reminds me of all.my.therapy sessions. I was always on a clock to describe everything that I couldn't even understand myself
When you talked about your coworker and how they inspire you, I immidietly thought "you are inspiring me now".
Thank you for this video, I will save it and watch it again because I am 100% sure your words just made me a better facilitator. ❤
Chalk outlines or tale of jenny and screech full version will blow your mind
REN is pretty amazing, I wish I could hug him, tell him everything alright lol. 'breaking the system while also feeling broken by it' is its own vibe he nails on the head here.
Very nice reaction! I'm glad that you're digging Ren. I really like the verbiage of "hurt people" rather than "sick people".
When you mentioned "epitome of compassion", my mind went immediately to Aurora. If she isn't on your radar, I'd strongly recommend checking her out. There isn't a bad place to start with her, but I might suggest the live Vevo performance of Exhale Inhale.
Ren is such a wonderful voice for a world in pain.
Loved the reaction. Loved the perspective you brought. Enjoy your journey down the Ren rabbit hole.
God we wish we could have a therapist like you... Been dealing with schizoaffective social disorder and multiple personalities for 26+ years (that we can remember anyway) and how you think of a lot of this stuff is kinda nice to see! And Rens music is almost like therapy in some ways, 'specially Hi Ren... Thank you for doing these videos!
Love this Woman ❤ I want to be her friend 🙏🙏🙌🙌🇬🇧🇺🇸
The Tales of Jenny and Screech (full trilogy version) will give a whole lot for you to chew on.
Reminds me of the VA... we'll only treat the symptoms not fix the problem and we'll do it with some pills, your next appointment is in 6-8 months.
This is the first time I have seen your channel on my Ren journey that I have been following for well over a year and I would just like to say your insight to mental illness and Rens ongoing story is profound you are one in a million and you are wise far beyond your years keep up the good work.
We appreciate it! Glad you stopped by and enjoyed!
Same here!! Found This young lady reacting to Hi Ren xx An Earth Angel 😇
You've made me cry twice now... When you were talking about CSA in Violet's Tale amd now with this... I need a therapist like you. I have DID and life is so hard.
This was a fantastic reaction. Unfortunately a lot of us have similar experiences to Ren, with misdiagnosis and gaslighting. The world needs more therapists like you! Definitely check out Chalk Outlines (live) with Chinchilla. It is phenomenal. 💜💜
Amazing xx Thanks for your view it's on this, love it.
Great reaction! Your patients are very lucky, I feel 😊💛
Thank you so much i have only ever heard sick of my doctors and have never heard hurt and never even thought of it in yge terms of hurt. struggling right now with my PTSD that has helped that one word broke me down but I also know it will help. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You say image how it feels. I don't need to. I've experienced it, I'm still experiencing it, but this time, this time I'll find the exit sign that belongs to me. Sometimes there is no help for the truly broken
Oooh how i wish i can find a therapist with your mindset. Its impossible.
This one is a total banger... great one to review!
Yes!!! Just discovered your channel and love the concept. Love the metal music, the psychology, the love, and most of all I'm pumped for your journey into Ren. Please do How to Be Me or Chalk Outlines next!!!
I’ve watched fifty reactions to this song and it never made sense to me until now. I don’t even know if you know his medical history but that was amazing, thank you!
I love this woman! Thank you for diving into rens catalogue, your enthusiasm and emotional connection is evident in your reactions. I saw su!cide yesterday and cried along with you. When i first saw that song i was broken for a few days because it hit me so hard
shout out the actor in this video she plays the role wonderfully like many 5mins doctors appointments we all get these days.
Why do her videos always make me cry!!?
You are amazing!
Beautiful reaction ❤️
Again, amazing commentary and knowledge you shared during this reaction! I look forward to more Ren reactions. Especially The Tales of Jenny she Screech (Full), Seven Sins, Chalk Outlines Live and How To Be Me Live!
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thank you for this video! long time fan of ren here and can relate alot to his songs. this video brings even more light on something thats not spoken enogh abt. very power full video
Such great insights and perspectives. I love your excited reaction to another Ren masterpiece. 💕👍🦇
In the name of "progress" we walk off a precipice.
I love this reaction. Thank you so much
I have seen this video so many times and have watch so many reactions but for some reason watching your reaction to this made this video so much more powerful thank you for your insights
That was wonderful ❤ thank you
Taylor I've seen you in a couple reactions thus far and I must say ....I love your energy, I connect with your empathy and am inspired by the way life flows through you ..what a gift it must be to be of service to others helping them find direction when they are lost..keep going Taylor. Take comfort from the universe that no matter where you are at. You are exactly where you are supposed to be....✌️
Long rabbit hole of Rens music. So much powerful.. I seen you did the Suic!de one, and at the end , he sings the section about Joe. Well there is a more in depth part of that song called "FOR JOE " , Ren is on a bridge playing his keyboard singing the song. Its amazing like always. There are too many Ren songs to bring up. Im trying to think of the major ones that deal with mental illness. I would also say take a look at "Chalk Outlines" him with Chinchilla singing, "How to be Me" also him singing with Chinchilla , there are so many more, and you will get a huge amount of people coming by to see your reactions to all of them. Ren is super fire right now on you tube.
Like he said it is the world that is such and broken love your reactions you are a one of a kind thank you. Reaction videos are my therapy so thanks again
New to the channel and impressed by how well you got it. I'm sure you're providing value to those that hear you.
I really enjoy your Ren reactions. Your ability to pick up and recall lyrics is impressive, it shows that you are really listening. The mark of a true professional!
Ren is going to soon be your favourite artist
All the best ren pure class .helping people threw your music and your a great artist .so proud how far you have come .Good luck and stay gold
Not only do you have a refreshing and strong outlook on things but you have a fantastic singing voice !!
Awesome reaction and insight!
Please do more REN. Much love from the UK 🧡
I wish I could give this a lot more than one 'thumbs up'!
Thank you for what you are doing to help the trauma victims. I wish all felt like you. My wife had a therapist who was a predator. Unfortunately, we didn't know what he was until it was too late. My wife suffered horribly by him.
Keep helping. Keep up the compassion.