DPF Deletes, Fines, Race Trucks, Emission Tuning & Diesel’s Future
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- The diesel world is swirling right now with tons of questions about emissions compliance, what can and can’t done, what it changes for you and your trucks. We talked with Vinny Himes from Lead Foot Diesel Performance about an EPA visit, what they are being told and the current state of modifications. If you own a diesel truck, no matter how new or old, you need to listen to this.
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The EPA should pay to fix emissions failures on our trucks, since they stay all that stuff should be on our diesel trucks.
I agree!
I second this motion
Plus what if us lb7 owners get cough out some place where we didn't even have it to begin with
I was thinking the very same thing as I was listening to the podcast
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!
Government is legalizing weed and outlawing working on your truck
or any vehicle for that matter, theyre just starting with diesels because the black smoke is "Scary"
Anything that makes you easier to control. That’s all they want. If you think for yourself, your a bad man.
Cheers from Coast To Coast Diesel Enthusiasts..!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE..!!!
Vinny always cut and dry and straight and to the point! Could listen to him all day.
Thanks EPA you just saved me 20,000 on my new truck, going gas now
Hate these guys hade to go through this but they will bounce back
The EPA did this same bullying thing in the mid nineties with the phasing out of R12 Freon . Enacted a bunch of new rules that changed depending on who you spoke to in the government, gave a period of time for the shops to buy thousands of dollars of equipment to meet there rules, had all the employees trained for the new regulation and then started fining shops who did not meet there requirments. My shop spent fourty thousand dollars to comply with the rules and at that time that was a lot of money to pull out of no where. And yes it was all about money then, I believe it was Dupont that was losing the patent on R12 and they needed to force the use of R12 rather than some of the many alternative replacements that were coming on the market until there patent for R134 cleared. Being a lobbyist pays well I am told.
Shoutout from TAT Express out of Hutchins, TX
Even though I couldn't live this speakers life, I agree with him. I believe that even the internet will take a hit over this. I wish he could give his point of view in a court of law where it made a difference.
If it ever comes to that, I would happily do so.
Thank you for this pod cast.
Great advice about contacting state reps. I know I did I hope others join in as well!
The EPA needs to be dismantled into 1000 pieces.
So does the ATF
Slash it, slash it, slash it
Funny!! You must be from the generation of ME!! lol Grow up and BREATH fresh air!! lol
@@biz4twobiz463 shut the fuck up boomer
no.. you need to start to act like an adult and stop doing stupid crap to ya truck and being a ricer
This country is going to shit the government needs to remember who puts them in the positions they are in
Hunt down somebody from the EPA and ask them to come on and answer questions honestly. Let's hear it from the horse's mouth and help eliminate the speculation.
You might as well assume you can't put bigger tires or an aftermarket bumper on your truck if you do that. They will tell you their interpretation of the law. Not the law.
They law is written so they can change the rules whenever they want and then fine you for doing something that's illegal now but was legal when you did it.
I just started racing about 4 yrs ago. I have been a diesel performance enthusiast for the last 17 yrs, ever since I drove my bother-in-laws 01 tuned Duramax. Even when I drove gassers, I have always enjoyed doing upgrades to my truck to make it run better, last longer, and are generally healthier for my truck's life. I am absolutely infuriated over the EPA's attack on shops and the consumer for altering any aspect of a production vehicle. OK, I can understand altering emissions, but if emissions remain intact and tuning helps increase horsepower while decreasing regens (saves fuel/money) should not even be an issue. I am the 2017 NHRDA World Finals Sportsman winner, 2018 NHRDA Diesel on the Mountain Sportsman winner, 2nd in points in the 2018 NHRDA Sportsman National Championship, and 4-time Big Country Raceway street class champion. I enjoy racing my daily driver. I keep my power level at a point that allows me to race but also have a reliable vehicle (higher the power, the more likely something will break). I am not into having a separate tow vehicle and trailer. I enjoy driving my hot-rod, there should not anything wrong with that at all. As a previous podcast stated, where does the EPA stop and allows us to make upgrades to our vehicle that improves performance, improve the health of our own vehicle, and protects the environment. Where does it stop, is a shop or a end consumer going to get in trouble with the government because they did not put an OE oil filter or air filter back on a vehicle? Don't respond, is a rhetorical question. Even a political spin can be put on this issue, but I'm not going there. As mentioned before, I am absolutely infuriated re: how far the EPA is going, which is absolutely absurd. I urge everyone, even the gas enthusiast, to contact your local, state, and federal official re: this issue that has gone to far and has to stop!!! If you want, you can go to my facebook page and click on the link for "SEMA" and send a pre-printed statement to your state and federal official. If you are a enthusiast as I am, please get involved.
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When a government fears its people you have freedom and liberty. When the people fear their government you have tyranny. We the people need to restore the balance. The EPA are employees of the taxpayers. Everyone that loves to tinker and enjoys the aftermarket options for making horsepower should be contacting their elected representatives voicing their concerns on the EPA.
Well said. We are not fucking sheep.
You are right, epa works for the tax payers.
They are listening to the liberal tax absorbers, and states like california on how to fuck the rest of the world
That's why they want to take the guns, then they are the only ones with guns and you will do what you are told.
@@kb9oak749 Just watched a vid of highschool girls getting questioned about gun topics, they believe the govt is out of control and corrupt. They then get asked about people carrying guns...oh no almost nobody should except highly trained maybe a few. Ah so you think taking guns from the good people and only the corrupt out of control govt can have the guns, is a good thing. They said WHOA, I never thought of it like that. I have to go home and think about that one now
Dude I love y’all for makin this video it answered a few questions but not all
One thing they did not touch base on in this podcast was the "end user" issues also. They talk about the shops issues installing these "illegal" products. In PA, if you are caught driving an altered vehicle, it's mandatory $20,000 fine, your truck is impounded, sent back to the dealership to get set back to factory parts and tuning (which you pay for).
This is absolutely correct and we've run into this since the podcast was recorded. Great information man, thank you for mentioning this.
Budweiser went to Congress when they wanted to raise taxes on alcohol. Bud. Said if they raise taxes ,they would shut down the plants and no beer would be made and jobs would be lost. Diesel companies and enthusiasts need to think and go forward with a Budweiser plan. You can tune a truck .... you can beat the government! Remember it is “ We The People” never forget!
Yeah, but we are too few compared to a major corporation like Budweiser.
Or do we have enough to come together for our trucks
we stop buying diesels the oil companies and auto manufacturers are going to feel it.. they are way way bigger than budweiser... im not buying another one for sure... i kinda regret buying the one i just got 6 months ago..
@@dpd16790 That's what the EPA wants though... if it becomes no profit for companies they will stop making them.
Lol the money has always been in maintenance and repairs not performance!! You not gonna fine many shops going against this
Greatest line ever..... making a 12 valve not suck is a crime lol. Great info. Love the pod cast has helped educate me for my series I am working on for my channel.
My 450k mile 12valve I have in my 04 f350 has never had a major issue, gets way better mileage and is way cheaper to work on. This truck with an old engine should s better than any new truck I can buy and runs completely smoke free and makes just as much power.
But the EPA does not care about efficiency and the environment it’s just about money end of story!
FACTS! It’s ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT MONEY!
Thank you, Thank You for this video. I learned a lot of things.
Show the EPA proof that a deleted diesel runs cleaner! Uses less fuel ans costs less to maintain.
They don't care about proof.
They are the lefts Gestapo.
@@bradleyselk9642 Yea seriously they don't. I've actually flipped through some of their thousand page reports on their website. They'll have page after page after page of data submitted by the public countering their decision, and they just say "it is not peer reviewed scientific data" and they just cast it aside and move on.
I had a very reputable tuner (which i won't name even though they have already been shutdown from tuning about a year ago by the epa) write me 5 tunes for my lly a little over 6 years ago which is still running very strong thanks to deletes and tuning. Well this guy made one of those tunes a very powerful yet super clean street tune that shifts oh so butter smooth. I'm talking practically 0 soot coming out the exhaust when I'm on the pedal while driving pretty aggressively. I guess where im going with this is they should have a voluntary non-mandated test that if you want to run your deleted truck legally that as long as you can make a run that can pass a low particulate matter test close to the same visual output of a new fully emissions in tact truck those who qualify can be issued a permit to run that tune on the street legally. This would allow us to have legally qualified deleted trucks giving us the same reliability and fuel economy diesel enthusiasts have grown to luv. Then tuners could strive to hit this goal on the deletes. This way you don't put theses great guys, shops and aftermarket manufacturers out of business and as a nation we can burn less fuel in the process which will help the environment stay clean. Everyone with a delete will also have a chance to become compliant again in doing so because let's just be honest; the alternative is telling people its illegal and they better get their act together and get compliant and lets be honest... if you already have a delete there is no way you are going to put an egr and dpf back on your truck. 👍
I wish trump did the EPA delete...
Funny . Trump doesn't believe in climate change . He thinks is BS . I hope Trump deletes himself .
Some needs to sit down with the EPA and figured all this out .
@@Spad68 TRUMPS YOUR PRESIDENT, GET THE FUCK OVER IT ALREADY CRYBABY
psychotikpaisano HES TRYING
"Climate change" is fake ... man did NOT cause the Ice Age to end 13,000 years ago due to global warming, the climate changes on its own .
Look left as we go right , WINTER IS COMING.
Go fuck yourself tony.
Safe drinking water should be the EPA’s 1st priority! Not go after shops & consumers retro actively who did upgrades to trucks to give reliable running vehicles. In my case, the 6.0 L had issues from the factory. And when those International/Ford engines were placed into ambulances, those vehicles cost people their lives! Where was the EPA or any other government agency?
The people in the epa must not have had close loved ones die in the back of an ambulance with a 6.0 on the side of the road with blown head gaskets it’s a plugged oil cooler.
TRUMP needs to drain the swamp EPA.
Trumps guy is running the epa...#fuckingmoron
@@johnnyspaceman1 the EPA been there before trump And this clean air been on 18 wheeler for while so
@@843MudMafia. this isnt about 18 wheelers...SO
What Muffler do you guys is the best for a deleted 3500 Duramax to make it like stock noise?
Thanks
If the EPA was smart, being that this is a money grab gimmic, they would just get an emissions tax approved on all sales of aftermarket performance diesel parts instead of trying to extend the long arm of these ridiculous laws. Its a win win because they would make way more money that way and still be able to show that they "care" about the environment, and we as consumers could legally have these performance parts on our trucks (at a slightly higher cost). Im not in favor of paying more money for parts but if that constitutes being able to legally modify my truck i would be ecstatic to pay the phony piper.
At the 10 minute area, criminal charges can be thrown out by a jury trial.
42:10 everything you need to know
"who wouldn't want a truck that's 600+ HP and it's clean" - this. If I want something reliable and comfortable I have to keep my 30+ year old stuff going. When the time comes I'll be rebuilding my old Ford 6.9 because that's a lot easier than dealing with all this stuff.
I am very interested in all this recent info. about diesel emission enforcement. Not because I am a diesel truck owner but because I am on my third diesel passenger car. After the VW dieselgate BS, it appears to be a "Trickle-down" into or rather up-to the truck market. Ironically the EPA did not 'discover' that VW was 'cheating.' A university professor and his students via a relatively small grant discovered it. From the first test drive of a Jetta TDI pre-fix, I was hooked! I thought "How in the world are more people not buying these?" Who doesn't want 40mpg average in-town and 50, sometimes nearly 60 on road trip? Now, post fix only 35 to 40mpg average and the DSG transmission is a dog! My only experience with trucks is via work. In stock form an F350 6.0 is amazing but I would not want to own and maintain that particular truck without aftermarket upgrades. This scenario regarding any diesel vehicle is nothing more than a scam, money grab and government overreach. Simply tyrannical!
Back in college I had a 1984 Nissan sedan with a 1.7 diesel and it got, like you said, over 50 mpg highway. Now 35 years later , it's probably HARDER to find a car >50 mpg than it was back then. But the EPA doesn't care.
If we don't come together as an entire industry and end this overreach we're all fucked. These are our vehicles we pay insane prices for, and insane taxes on. We will not be told what we can and cannot do with them. They may have control over them when they are built but after they are sold they are our personal property and the government has zero business in them.
Get the EPA on the podcast
Welcome to the gun control debate guys and gals.
Gun control, aim for the P.
Maybe on these videos make a list in descriptions with addresses to state representatives and flood them for weeks on end with 1000s of letters until they fix this.
What about shops doing remote tuning out of the country?
How are they going to implement these regulations at the consumer level? Heard California has emissions check points.
Some states don't even have inspections. I would imagine they are going to crack down on states to regulate emissions compliance?
I would like to hear more about the elephant in the room for truck guys that are already deleted.
Diesel Owner- since America is becoming a British natzi country Where no one fallows the constitution I would just challenge the EPA in court for evidence that the constitution applies in the first place just because Someone is fiscally in the US or a territory and there for creates obligations on them like codes and statutes.
Really good info in this video
I'm not into the diesel performance world, but I am into performance gas engines. To those guys that think this will STOP at diesels need to wise up and realize this is the tip of the iceberg, and a reminder of the HUGE governmental overreach that is going on in Washington DC. This needs to STOP !
So when EPA pisses of the refineries because they are losing billions of dollars in profits because no one wants a diesel truck because of what EPA did, how long do you think the EPA will be around
No big government.
How are they able to get in trouble for modifying the preemmisions trucks? That doesnt make sense to me. Enforcing a law on a person that doesnt apply. That's like driving a 30s ford and getting a seat belt ticket.
what about guys that buy a 30's ford truck ( or my 60's hemi with good parts for the era that don't suck for the most part but are 45+ years obsolete now and can be hard to get NOS OEM replacement parts plus can be $$ for it vs. now fuel injection and modern CNP ignition is cheap and reliable to add from ( holly dominator ECU $$ way ) or junkyard gm LSX engines ect. or gm's mid 80's light duty consumer trucks carburettor emission control equipment sucked and stock always ended up wasting my gas and blowing out black soot rolling coal and unburnt gasoline and what if i dieside to non roll coal diesel swap it like someone else's 1/2 ton truck i saw that started out life as a SBC 350 & turbo 400 non locking up automatic trans and yanked it for a gm 6.6L LMM or Cummins 6-BT 12or24 valve with a modern 6-speed manual transmission ) and resto mod it ? with a newer transmission and or engine or modernising a older engine from carb to fuel injection ect. cause I have the same feelings as the guests message on this podcast episode
EPA emission standards started in 1978 for on highway trucks so it would have to be older than that to be pre-emissions.
How about this one? You buy a new vehicle/truck, it's paid for and you have your name on the title. The Government says you can't do this or that to the vehicle. It must pass random inspections. Then, if they can get their way, insurance companies want to track your trips and mileage to determine your insurance rates. At what point do you really own your property? Maybe vehicle owners should simply tell those who want to monitor their vehicle, "I charge a fee for that access and data".
@@jeffreybegeman9544 unfortunately the last time i ended up registering it had to pass ( that changed the law / rule / enforcement in my area in 2014 ish ) epa regulation to 1972~ spec not that the original dealership or onwer had that in mind or me at the time of buying it used in 2009-13. im not really interested in making it harder to drive every day but with that said im not into gassy / black coal rolling engines / heavy cigarette smoke at a red light making me cough up a lung so there is a middle ground between all or nothing and what im hearing might make it so i end up trying to pass 2030 laws 🤷♂️ ( hope not as the original build parts design date is something that i seems fairer than trying to conform every new year ) with it or else...?
besides i don't like wasting fuel or making my self / family and friends sick 🤒 so i can't be the only one that thinks this way and making it harder to change / upgrade is deterrent ( to modernising my fuel system ect. ) to a eco nut tree hugger's goals for clean air
@@Garth2011 no thanks to being bugged i like leaving the house some times without being forced into being followed by gps or say a potential control freak or crazy X;;; or the family 😏😎 as normal people sometimes likes having me "time " once in a while and not having to answer any award questions about what I was doing or why
one of the reasons why on star is permanently disabled 🔌🔪 on my new ecu antana etc. and im not really interested in newer cars and by the way the government inspector tried really hard to get me to add aftermarket catalytic converters last time around and as far as i know my mopar didn't come with any special epa ( maybe some "hot parts" ) stuff but im not really sure if I would want to as im mildly afraid of plugging one up like the some of new dodge v8's or Chevy's = a dead engine
If the epa requires this crap then manufacturers need to warranty this crap parts longer
Yes sir
In Germany you are forbidden to have aftermarket power add-ons. If the Bundespolizei think you modified your vehicle they will pull you over, cavity search you and fine the crap out of you. However, you can drive as fast as you want on the open parts of the AutoBahn. There is good and bad. I'm just worried these EPA regulations will eventually bring an end to performance parts similar to Germany. This diesel crack down is just the beginning. Sad.
The Constitution says nothing of an EPA.
I have a newer diesel, that I was building a weekend warrior competition truck. I did the delete, big turbo, new fuel system, trans. I don't live in a place with emissions checks. Can I still drive my truck? Is my build frozen, like I can't upgrade anymore? Did I just waste $30,000? Do I have to return it to stock? Is selling it still possible? How much trouble can I get in?
What is the future of trucks that have been deleted for years?? One time fine, or worse??
Hope the pressure for clean tunes will find a way to make EGR not needed. After treatment is ok with me but eating your own shit is not. Look at how the gasoline engines have evolved with more power and efficiency and less emissions controls. Hope we can head down the same path.
So in short the normal weir and tare of 350,000mi on my 1st gen Cummins pushing 173whp (~250 crank hp)with correction, with fatory sealed ve45 injection pump is illegal.... Because the pump has worn in such a way to change the "factory" 160 crank hp tune.
That is correct, it is your responsibility to keep up up to par in order to pass emissions. I worked at an emissions test shop for a very brief period of time. Your truck would have failed emissions in that state and you would not be allowed to renew your tags without having the pump either rebuilt and injectors replaced, or whatever else was worn out. They are that strict about it, in some states.
Not only as a diesel owner and enthusiast, I also manage a fleet of around 300 school buses. I can tell everyone first hand how much the emissions equipment has hurt more than just the performance industries. The reliability even in stock form sucks to say the least. The mini bus side of my fleet is slowly being phased from diesel to gas vehicles stricktly due to downtime and maintenance costs. Our fuel costs have spiked due to the loss of efficiency going back to gasoline vehicles, and the longevity of the vehicles has degraded leading to more frequent vehicle purchases. That cost then gets turned to the tax payers, and we wonder why our school taxes keep increasing. Our old fleet of 7.3 and 6.5 vans and dt466 and 444 buses cost relatively little to run and lasted forever. Enter the 6.0, 6.6 and maxxforce era (error) where reliability went out the window... a vehicle that’s in the shop for thousands of dollars in emissions systems repairs is not only costing money, but losing money in down time...
What would the fine be to a normal person who is only trying to improve their truck? You guys are absolutely right, it’s about the money not the environment.
$10,000 is the fine
For having a deleted truck?
@@Silentroller93 That's the way I understand it 😕
EPA can fine you $37,500 per day per non-compliance
That’s ridiculous
Man I found this video researching options to make my 2014 Cummins stop breaking constantly. So frustrating! I have little interest in making big power. I just need to be able to haul trailers full of bees around without breaking down constantly or paying $800 a year for them to clean out the DPF every time it gets clogged.
There's a petition going around for this everyone needs to sign it I signed and everyone else I know did
Toten where do I find this petition ?
@@secretcrowds17 It was going around facebook, It was on the we the people site the name of the petition was Diesel perfomance and diesel emissions
This is almost the same situation as firearms and the nfa/atf
Need a 1 million diesel truck cruise into DC like the million man march. The overreach has gotten out of hand.
EPA is too big. Every alphabet agency has their own swat team, firearms, ammo & policing unit & that is not a free country. 🤬🤬
MrPittsburghJ that would be fun
Yup
I'm down🙃 already live here llol
I'll drive down.
i'm in bro
Well sounds like I’m gonna be a criminal... you gotta do what you have to do.
Agreed
Yep until highway patrol breaks one off in your ass.
Yep
Good luck even finding emissions delete parts. I'm looking for a Flo-Pro 862 turbo back pipe and I cant find one anywhere.
You are if you are breaking the law.
What can we do to fight this?
1776 was a very effective year....
Well said.
5 EPA employees don’t like this episode
Lol
Diesel Performance world welcome to the firearms world.
It is our second amendment right to keep and bear arms, it is not our right to modify diesel trucks. There are in fact laws against modifying diesel trucks. They are just written very broadly which makes them impossible to be compliant with. We need to band together and get the laws changed, just like prohibition and legalized pot. We can do it, if we go about it in the right way.
@@vinnyhimes1190 Correction, it is our NATURAL RIGHT, protected by the 2nd Amendment from goverment infringement to keep and bear arms. We don't have Constitutional Rights, we have Natural Rights protected by the Constitution from government intrusion. The 2nd Amendment limits them, not us. They do not get to decide the extent of those limits and therefore don't get to decide what weapons(military or otherwise) or what Americans(felons or otherwise) are permitted to own said arms.
And before making the argument that the majority decided we don't need certain weapons or certain people shouldn't have them, we are not a democracy. Our forefathers despised a democracy for good cause and likened it to mob rule. We are a Constitutional Republic. Artical IV; Section 4: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government..."
Article I; Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution defines the federal government's delegated authorities. None of which give them the authority to make a law against modifying anything or prohibititing anything(including Cannabis or ANY other drug/substance). Are we FREE or slaves?
Article I; Section 1 clearly states that "ALL legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States." Whereas, the EPA has NO authority to make ANY laws telling any American what they can and cannot do to any of their own property or themselves so long as it does not infringe on the rights of others. That power is clearly left to Congress under certain criteria outlined for them in the Constitution. Every "law" the EPA inacts is unconstitutional and therefore void as if it never existed per Article VI; Section 2 which states: "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof...shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
It is beyond past time that our government "officials" begin honoring their oath of office and quit violating the Constitution, the Supreme Law, by making new unconstituional law(s) in order to extort money from their employers, WE THE PEOPLE!! WE THE PEOPLE NEED to hold them accountable to their oathes and as such they MUST suffer the penalties for said crimes as outlined in 18 U.S.C. 1918 which states "individual may not accept or hold a position in the Government of the United States" and "shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year and a day, or both."
@Spy Tube thank you for taking the time out of your day to try and insult me. I am however not a "Loser ass" as you so eloquently put it. If you take your snowflake hat off and stop trying to be offended, and actually read my comment. You will find I was being a smartass in the first sentence, my main message was we need to band together to fight government overreach. We should be able to do whatever we want with our personal property. We should be able to own whatever guns we want, the government is out of control, I truly pray Trump gets a second term to drain the swamp of this mess. Have a blessed day my friend.
They cant make law. Challenge it
What are you to do when you work for the city and you have to delete your ambulances so patients don't die in the back when 6.0 decides to region halfway through the Run what's the ETA going to do then they're going to say sorry and slap a fine on to the city
If you're not stocking up on firearms, baofeng radios, and emissions delete diesel tunes are you really an american?
Baofeng is a Chinese rip off company that rips off radios.. wtf are you on about again? How bout you stock up on a pair of balls and take on your gov you shmuck..
Is there a way to delete and just clear engine codes and not smoke
Sure is
My 2018 Cummins is deleted and properly tuned. It doesn't blow smoke at all.
Properly tuned no deisel should smoke. Fuel that can't be burned is what causes the smoke.
I always thought of it like this. The only way the epa is gonna stop people from deleting is if they lifetime warrenty the emissions equipment for free replacement. Because a guy is only gonna out so many def heaters on his truck before he takes the shit off. If they wanted to fix it for free then no one would have a problem keeping it on but it’s just not cost effective.
If the government is making Diesels have these restrictive engine wearing maintenance flops, then the maintenance cost $$$$ should be supplemented by the government. We give BILLIONS $$ to other countries, so let’s redirect those funds and subsidize the emissions systems so we the owners don’t have to take out loans just to fix our transportation.
Its called emissions and the clean Air/ Clean Water Act is all about, sadly. Just does not target diesel trucks. Imagine a Paint booth or a media blast operation or a Farm Tractor or a emergency generator for a hospital or a sewage plant.
Write to your representative!
The problem is 0 % emissions
Stop all diesel trucks. All of them. Now
Wait a few days see the effects and change will come. If all drivers stayed home big changes would come. This country would stop in its tracks.
A nationwide strike would do wonders, yes sir. It would be near impossible to orchestrate though :(
Sitting here listening to the fall out I can't help but wonder when the epa will come down on gas engines
They already have. Look at the 70s, that's where the egr systems were introduced. These were introduced because they were trying to make gasoline vehicles cleaner and pretty much every 70s car was gutless because of it. This is where Diesels got a little more popular. Better mileage and power, because they weren't regulated like gasoline vehicles. Diesels were untouched I think until early 90's.
@@bradleystone9191 yes they came down on them 40 years ago but they don't really enforce it unless you are in a state that actually checks emissions and even then they just fail the vehicle they don't give you a fine
@@80f250 nah Wyoming isn't one that is bad about it. As long as you aren't dumb about it, I think you could get away with being tuned and or deleted as long as you aren't dumb with it like rolling coal and just driving like a douche
Hey guys, I work in the bus transportation business and what I feel is this. The Government is on the road to making Diesels so expensive to operate and maintain that any person who buys one will quickly get rid of it and never buy another..! They are forcing all diesel out of existence and it's really messed up. At present time there isn't anything that can haul the tonnage a diesel application can for a reasonable expense. My company is buying brand new buses and they make it to my shop with MIL and CEL lights on the dash! We had a 2017 with 120k miles that was sent to cummins and they had to rebuild the engine due to DPF pressure codes that kept returning even though all cummins trouble shooting steps were followed and the appropriate parts replaced.
EPA's goal is to force the whole diesel industry out.
Stop putting so many ads in these videos. There’s more ads in this than the the super bowl.
I work for one of the companies mentioned and the crazy thing is that race cars don’t exist to them. If the vehicle has a VIN then it has to have emissions (which is stupid). But that is what they told us.
The aftermarket for truck performance will have to step up to the plate "just like the auto aftermarket"and EPA certify all their aftermarket modifications.
Fucking Jose ratting us out I thought that dumpster was a good location
The EPA needs to be sued for over reach
So that would go for all vehicles then diesel, gas, and natural gas conversions
1. There are many more bad than good tuners out there. Cracked heads and overspun turbos are expensive to replace and your factory warranty is now voided, and 2. Any time you sell or trade in your deleted diesel - your counter party has an immediate Federal case against you if they choose to pursue it.
Before this even starts I’ve been hoping you guys would shed light on this
Stop running Cole you're pissing everybody off.
So all trucks already deleted just took a huge hit on what its worth?
Or maybe a huge gain since they can't be deleted nomore?
Anything Adrenaline true could go either way. Unless EPA really cracks down and makes everyone put emissions back on their already deleted trucks
@@calebbroege1333 I definitely hear you. I really hope price increases for owners selling.
I added 5k to the value of my lml for sale last week, because its "Limited Edition"
@@calebbroege1333 would have to live in a state that tests deisel emissions 🤷♂️. The EPA can get fucked 👍
Time for the world largest diesel Cruz to DC to tell them to kiss our diesel trucks a.ssss! EPA IS BECOMING TO CONTROLLING, time to stand up and push back fella's!
Yes lets have a diesel march PEOPLE!
THIRTY THOUSAND DIESEL PICK UP AND BIG TRUCKS JUST DRIVE AROUND WASHINGTON TRAFFIC ALL MEET DOWN TOWN FOR A RALLY WOULD BE AWESOME TO LET CONGRESS KNOW HOW THERE RULES ARE HURTING AMERICANS
How will the new EPA enforcement effect companies like WCF, SDP or HSP? Will we not be able to upgrade our inercooler pipes, Intakes, coolant pipes or coolant reservoirs? What about the emissions intact compound set up that WCF designed be effected? It doesn't sound like a attack on deletes, it seems to me like its a attack on hobbyist like myself that like to make our vechicles perform better. It sounds like they want to stop any type of modifications or " Tampering". Will it be illegal to install a stroked injection pump with emissions intact?
Great question. So the EPA is very much like dealing with the mob. If you pay the mob boss a fee, you can continue with your illegal activity. They call it a "testing fee" you can pay that fee and have your illegal product tested. If CARB decides the product being tested doesn't increase NOX emissions, then you get a CARB/EO certification number and your illegal product that clearly alters the way the vehicle ran from the factory, is now legal! Isn't big government fun!
I am a certified diesel mechanic that works on over the road trucks. I agree with haveing emmisons on semi trucks because theres millions of them on the road. I dont agree with emmisons on diesel pickup trucks theres such a small fraction of them on the road it wouldnt matter. The epa is going after the pickup truck guys because it's easy money for them to make because most people dont know there laws on this bs stuff. But if the epa was really worried about pollution they would get rid of all gas powered vehicles and go all diesel. A new gas powered vehicle puts out more pollution than old 12v.
We need to stop rolling coal an pissing off all the Electric/hybrid owners. An just run clean tunes on the street in the city's . Play dirty in the woods away from those people lol .
Been saying this for years . Some people just don't get it .
Your probably closer to right than you think. NO one wants a shot of black smoke in their drivers side window from an idiot in a big truck at every traffic light. Ignoramuses will ruin the game for everyone. You sure won't build any support by crapping black smoke all over those you want sympathy from. Just for the record, I support you guys being able to upgrade your rides.
I hate seeing some person in there jacked up truck rolling coal around town it's stupid. There does have to be some kind of happy medium and rolling coal on cars, businesses, people and just in general around town is crossing over into the wrong side of the medium.
Ray Dornbush yeah it called switching the tune. You press a few buttons. I hate seeing people rolling coal ruining it for the rest of us.
coal ricers to look cool..dumbasses
So if modifying pretty much anything on your truck what about ATS's Emissions intact compound turbo kit for the 6.7 Cummins is that illegal now?
It's like the mafia, if you break the law you pay a fine, if you pay a fine up front it's called testing and now it's okay to break the law. So ATS and a few other companies are paying the fines up front and getting their products tested and approved to break the law.
Txs for rolling coal. Just attracts unwanted attention.
Welcome to America, where modifying your personal property to better you and your family has become illegal.
Sssshhhhh that's racist hahahahah
It has always been illegal to remove EPA mandated pollution controls on all road vehicles. Like it or not. The guys that modify their stuff and then flaunt it on UA-cam for the public view is what has brought this down on everyone. I have told people time and time again that they are publicly showing the world they are breaking federal law. Anyone who has said they didn't know this was illegal..agree with the law or not ..and I don't .. are not very bright.
@@retiresoon5639 the thing is these days the law can be set to anything that comes into the lawmakers head and that's wat I dont agree with.
And polluting the air that I breath. Go live in China and pollute that air blowing black smoke.
@@biz4twobiz463 listen no other country in the world cares about global warming except America and a big buisness called the EPA.
Can you make a podcast just breaking down specifically what the EPA said and then after they’re done with shops what the consumers should do and watch for. Also this is in the US only what about Canada could PPEI for example move to Canada and do the same thing up there? Just a thought
My 97 7.3L over 200,000 miles no smoke
That's cool . What have you done yo it .
DONT TOUCH THAT ENGINE!
Honestly how complex is a set of block off plates should be something that any machine/fabricating shop could make easy. Then the dpf delete pipe is literally just exhaust pipe. Not sure about getting tunes, or suspicious trucks being pulled over and checked
So anyone willing to move to Mexico and open up shop?
Good luck with that. You open shop and the cartel bust the door down making you pay them for simply doing business in "their" area.
I think they need to do an EPA delete haha
The overreach has been out of hand for decades! The majority of Americans have been ok ignoring the wonderful big bosses unconstitutionally stepping into and interfering in multiple areas of American life for far too long! Now the proverbial "when they're at your front door" has become a reality for the diesel community! Nothing will change until like minded Americans stand together just like the founding fathers of this country.
What Vince said about all EPA wants is money that is straight black and white, instead taking away diesel tuning away and tuning parts because somebody who doesn’t even drive diesel saids so . For example I’m a diesel mechanic student at Forsyth tech community college in North Carolina, from my experience on oem equipment 9 times out 10 the trucks that we learn on are trucks that have been broke down because of oem parts failing that be said instead of learning about OEM parts that fail why don’t we find solutions. Instead of taking jobs, careers away from people.
I love the super duty Ford trucks but when you Delete the Emissions is a no no . Factory can not build these trucks with out the emissions control. This is not a new law now EPA are clamping down on these deleted trucks an shops . Check out Bullet.com . Cars power by gasoline started in the early 70s and more on to trucks later. There used to be road side checks to make sure we are not choking on what's coming out of your tail pipes. This has nothing to do with the truck factory.
How bout we get every epa representative to show receipts and submit to a vehicle inspection? I guarantee every single vehicle has been tampered with. How often are they getting their septic system inspected? Laws for that too buddy. Its all a money and power thing. Everyone who has had a modern vehicle has been exposed to this crapt. Soend 70-90k on a new truck and make it last 100k miles without tampering with it. Aint happening. Screw those power hungry fellas.
doesn't any law have to be subject to Presidential veto power to be constitutional? EPA can't just write laws, legally. Hopefully this will get challenged at the Supreme Court.
It’s all about control and money period