I had a very reputable tuner (which i won't name even though they have already been shutdown from tuning about a year ago by the epa) write me 5 tunes for my lly a little over 6 years ago which is still running very strong thanks to deletes and tuning. Well this guy made one of those tunes a very powerful yet super clean street tune that shifts oh so butter smooth. I'm talking practically 0 soot coming out the exhaust when I'm on the pedal while driving pretty aggressively. I guess where im going with this is they should have a voluntary non-mandated test that if you want to run your deleted truck legally that as long as you can make a run that can pass a low particulate matter test close to the same visual output of a new fully emissions in tact truck those who qualify can be issued a permit to run that tune on the street legally. This would allow us to have legally qualified deleted trucks giving us the same reliability and fuel economy diesel enthusiasts have grown to luv. Then tuners could strive to hit this goal on the deletes. This way you don't put theses great guys, shops and aftermarket manufacturers out of business and as a nation we can burn less fuel in the process which will help the environment stay clean. Everyone with a delete will also have a chance to become compliant again in doing so because let's just be honest; the alternative is telling people its illegal and they better get their act together and get compliant and lets be honest... if you already have a delete there is no way you are going to put an egr and dpf back on your truck. 👍
Im wanting to know the same thing. What happens to all the customers who paid alot of money to delete there vehicles before everything started becoming illegal and cracking down? Do we have to return all of our vehicles back to stock?
This is a simple question with a very simple answer. If I was the best drug dealer in the world, slingin' the best crack rock in town at the very best price and you feel like your one of my top clients..... once the ATF people come and bust me for being a drug dealer and I do my time.... do you really think ATF is going to let me start selling crack again with no penalty? This is what we are dealing with here. The emissions removed tuning is illegal, it wasn't enforced properly for the past 56 years, now it is being enforced. Kory isn't going to not support those tunes because he doesn't want to, he is going to be told that if he continues to support those tunes, he is still breaking the law as they have chosen to enforce it.
@@redge8279 it didn't "start becoming illegal". It was always illegal. It is really sad though.....you can thank all the idiots 'rolling coal' instead of just deleting and making their trucks run bettter.
@@agger838 advances in technology might help. Having a bigger turbo than stock would help. The possibility of a cleaner burn that would negate having to have a DPF might be possible. Obviously a stock turbo, deleted truck ain't gonna pass
@@plog1805 yes. I guess I should word it a little differently for the simpler folk... "can a truck be tuned well enough to not need a DPF by having low enough NOX to pass an emissions evaluation?"
A question that I have for Kory is. Say you tune a truck to be emission compliant? Would the tunes have to be redone if you put an aftermarket head on, an aftermarket turbo, aftermarket charge air coolers, and aftermarket injectors and injection pumps. Because I personally think that with changing those pieces from stock. Most of the aftermarket parts help the motor burn fuel more efficiently than the stock parts.
I would say one of the biggest questions to ask Kory is how do we get more diesel sound from our trucks with emissions in tack if possible at all. Obviously not straight pipe loud but anything that makes more noise then stock. L5p duramax! That’s a hide reason why I have a diesel I need some diesel sound in my life ASAP!
Correct me if I'm wrong BUT the life of your engine/oil is SHORTENED by putting all the crap back in thru the egr valve. How is it going to interest me to purchase another new diesel truck at around $7X,XXX.XX when the epa is going to tell me I CANT BETTER MY INVESTMENT when it brakes down out of warranty! Not only are they (epa) hurting shops but they (epa) are going to hurt diesel truck sales. I put my purchase on hold.
You need to address these concerns with your state representatives. Let them know how this new enforcement of the law effects your life. What emissions equipment failures have you experienced? How have those failures effected your life and lively hood. Laws aren't made or changed because of our emotions, so leave emotions out of it. Laws are made and changed based off data and facts. Hit them hard with the data and facts and we can get these laws changed. The gas world fought this fight and won, prohibition fought this fight and won, Marry Jane is fighting this fight and winning one state at a time.
im close to being done with diesels, but yet these guys will continue to sell you a tune even though you cant delete with tune, staying legal and in the game... diesels suck now and im looking at tundras and ram 1500, they pull for half tons...
Have a question is there a serviceable DPF that can be removed with flanges so you do it yourself to clean it . 2015 - 2019 and newer ? 6.7 powerstroke.... If so I like to know Thank You
I just got an LML and ive decided im gonna try the quiet emissions compliant tuning. I had an LBZ that was deleted and had some good tuning. Maybe I'm just getting older but i find hard pressed to delete my emissions when theyve had zero issues.
So can I still but the emmisions intact tunes for my L5P ? I literally baught my unlocked ECM and TCM from HP tuners the day all of this happened, I'm pretty bummed like everyone one else
Jeff Campbell I was unaware that you were a member of the Virginia House of Delegates. I really hope you are still working on that plan-of-action. I wrote to my state reps and of course I have yet to hear anything back in 2 weeks.
I got a 2012 Duramax Lml. I tuned it with Kory years ago the ppei 5 auto cal and it runs great on tow tunes. But recently I was gonna change the tune to one of the other ones but my hand held changer doesnt let me anymore. So I'm just stuck on tow tunes..How do I fix this??
Emissions Compliance Tune? So we are going to squeeze more power of trucks with the DPF and EGR intact? Wouldnt that make those systems fail or soot up even faster? This seems kind of shady
Factually, a crappy canned tune will do exactly what you said above. But a good calibrator that puts the time and effort into building an ACTUAL tune, can make the engine run so clean that there is almost no soot being produced by the engine. I am no tuning guru. I built a 5.9L Cummins years ago and spent a weekend on my friends dyno with one goal in mind, no smoke. We achieved that goal with twin CP3's aftermarket injectors and compound turbos. The truck made 998hp with zero visible emissions. He was tuning my truck with EFI Live and this was back in 2012, tuning has only gotten better and more sophisticated since then. I truly believe emissions compliant tuning can help reduce the need to delete anything. If these tuning guys can do their testing with DPF of and get the soot output to damn near zero, then once the DPF is put back in place there won't be anything to clog it up, which means very little to no more regen, less DEF consumption, less EGR cycling, and no momre clogged filters.
@@vinnyhimes1190 well put. If we can get the emissions to zero with properly tuned electronics and equipment, can we still put aftermarket mufflers on and get better sounds out of a truck? I was looking into the 6.7 Cummins and if it had compounds, an additional CP3 and good injectors, I don't see why that isn't an issue
What do y'all think about purchasing compound turbo kits, dual fuelers, large injectors in the future for older trucks like LB7, LLY, and LBZ? Will parts and tuning for these kinds of upgrades be available?
The way I understand it any diesel motor that has been altered from factory specs is against federal epa law. The EPA is changing the rules as they go.
I just bought a absolute gem 4dr 03' superduty 7.3. All stock low miles. It doesent have much for emissions equipment except for maybe a cat converter so really nothing to "delete" and that's why I bought it, But what about installing Aftermarket basics like Exhaust, intake, better turbo, tuner, etc....? Is that now illegal on a pre emissions diesel like mine? Otherwise I'm stuck with the 250hp and 525 ft lbs of torque and I had plans to haul a camper and tow a boat . Still could but it would be slow going. Thanks in advance.
I have a LMM. It seems like newer trucks with def are starting to get dialed in with emissions tuning. What are the reliable options, or what’s in the works for emissions compliant tuning and the older trucks?
First guy to build an oversized dpf filter to still filtrate the exhaust but give it more paths to reduce the backpressure and increase power will be filthy rich!
The physical parts aren’t the issue, the real issue is you’re not allowed to change factory tuning at all. Even if there was a way to circumvent keeping the parts on your truck and still deleting it having the tuning altered will be against the law. It won’t be long before they come out with an OBD two reader that tells them if you are running after market. Just like warrantless searches
If I could ask Kory a question it would be this. Will the factory emissions equipment handle big HP day in day out, will the aftermarket produce "better" emissions equipment, will the tuning for these "intact" vehicles keep them from going into a dangerous 4 mph speed limit limp?
That's my major question also..I just want continued support on existing . Now u cant just chat with korys guys u have to make a ticket with your vin number included just to ask questions . Really dont want to give my vin up .dont trust him
So what happens to all the customers who have spent thousands on deleting there trucks? Will they never be able to update or anything? Just an example, say if you get a bigger turbo and injectors. Can there not be a custom tune made for those upgrades if your truck is deleted? Also do you have to return the trucks back to stock even if it was deleted before all this became against the law? Offroad/Race vehicles could be deleted if you signed the waiver stating that you were using it for offroad use only and now from my understanding NO diesels can be ran without proper emission systems. The guys who signed the waivers and built these badass race trucks are about to get completely FUCKED if this is the case and the Federal government i feel should pay these guys what it would cost to return them back to stock if its that much of a fucking issue bc I know some of these guys have hundreds of thousands in there diesels and to return them back to stock is just not realistic for them to do and nor should they have too. Kory you have made badass tunes over the years and I appreciate everything you have done to fight this bullshit law for us diesel guys. Gentlemen and ladies good luck to but i think shit is about to finally hit the fan this time so those of you who are deleted if you see a cop id suggest let off the pedal and coast on by them. Peace ✌🏻
So we have until the 31st of this month to get what ever we need ? I literally just bought the replacement ECM and TCM for my 2017 L5P a few days ago and this is the first I've heard about all of this, I was going to run the emmisions equipped tunes for a bit until I get all the rest of the parts I need but now I'm not sure what to do, If I can buy them now I guess I'll have to, what about the delete tunes can I buy those until the 31st ?
Average cost of a DPF filter replacement is $5-10k. Average cost to replace the SCR is $2-3k. Now I only graduated high school, but I can see the potential cost savings. Who would want to drive a $60k truck outside of the factory warranty, with that kind of liability hangin underneath? Not me. The end user has a shared responsibility in this but let’s lay some blame on some of the BS tuners out there putting tunes out to purposely “Roll Coal” on a street truck because “it’s cool” Tuners should’ve been ahead of the curve on this one, only offering clean deleted or emissions compliant tuning. Maybe implemented common practice policies across the industry for “Race Only” and not just using a disclaimer to relieve from all responsibility. Now all of our necks are in the noose and the EPA is the hangman.
Terry Elliott they let companies sell cigarettes with only a disclaimer, and all those smokers are probably worse for the environment than the diesel trucks.
The EPA has said any diesel truck I mean any yr . If its is altered it is considered illegal. Doesn't matter. If it's out of OEM specs it's illegal. If you put bigger tires on you are illegal. Sounds crazy? Dont take my word for it. Read for your self.
@@duckco1 oh i belive you but then that takes the fun out of owning any vehicle i got in to the car world because of the fact you could make something so that people would know its you
I would also like to know if kory could touch on specific differences in emissions compliant vs emissions intact tuning for older trucks like the lb7 seeing as emissions intact tuning is all that’s available for the lb7 from him now
Lb7 didn't even have EGR in the begining except california models, But when it did pop up, it was pre turbo so its basically not even pressurized like the ram's and fords that have egr valves to open and close. Lb7's don't have anything to "turn off or delete" Best motor to modify if your concerned about compliance, stock cranks are good for 1000hp but it starts at 300hp and takes a ton of money to get it up to 1000hp, min of $25-30K plus trans
💩 I'm in $80,000 deep,wish it were only $60,000. Now I'm trying to figure out a way to have a decent truck that's reliable & emissions compliant. Looking into compound turbos. The show truck part is easy,any vehicle can be built to show.
The thing I don't get with "emissions compliant tuning" is that you're stilll voiding the manufacturer's warranty and will have to pay out of pocket when part of the system fails. Not if, when. I'd rather just keep it stock with a warranty, but I'm not getting rid of my LML now..
It didn't come from the factory with emissions in place, so no. If they start to force people to put emissions equipment in place on their own dime they'll have a lot of lawsuits on their hands.
We all should contact SEMA via their website and ask for them to start a petition for a hearing on this matter. Here is what I sent them, please feel free to copy and paste it, add, or subtract to it. Whatever we do we all need to contact SEMA and our local representative in order to have our voices heard. I would like to ask if you could use your reach to start a petition to help the diesel community against the overreaching ruling by the EPA. These new fines and rules completely kill the aftermarket for diesel enthusiasts along with the small businesses that serve the diesel community. We should be able to have tuning that works with the Federal Emissions equipment to help our diesel engines run stronger and more efficiently on public roads and on weekends if we are off roading or racing we should be able to swap the DPF to a straight pipe, turn the EGR off and run an off road only calibration to compete. Most enthusiasts in the diesel community are not in a financial situation to have a tube chassis race only diesel vehicle to use for racing or off roading along with the an additional truck and trailer to transport it to events. Most use their daily for work and for fun/light competition on weekends and need reliable efficient vehicles. To rule that owners/shops are under no circumstances able modify a registered diesel vehicle is an overreach considering running larger tires modifies the fuel mileage and would be considered illegal via EPA. Also when out of warranty owners should be able to replace failed parts with upgraded aftermarket parts. If SEMA can get CA to reverse the illegal exhaust law I'm confident you can help with this also.
I would like Kory to answer what kind of financial impact this will have to all the mom and pop local and online diesel performance businesses. I think this is going to cause a major shift in the way people spend money in the economy. I for one purchased a 2018 Mega Cab a few months back knowing aftermarket tuning was an option. Now I'm very much considering taking a loss and selling to build another older truck. It is interesting how in a few days all companies pulled this stuff off the shelves, they had to have know for weeks that this was coming down the pipe.
The auto manufacturing industry knew that the HD truck industry would fall in it's ass once they tightened down on emissions & have started to roll out some nice newer gasser options. I mean it's not like a factory stock HD diesel truck is fuel efficient so why not go with a gasser & add some boost 😁
Charles henson An even wiser man would see the electric motor and the F150 are a towing and pulling beast and it will make the Diesel engine seem weird in 5 years.
Does egr hurt the life span of my motor? Why does emissions equipment have a 10 year warranty but if my turbo fails at 61k because soot build up, I have to pay for it.
I suppose it depends on where those companies sell their products. Are you talking about those tuning companies being able to source products from USA?
I had the 1000 with the asini and i had nothing but problems with it and the engine even through a rod multiple times and evan a lifter lol but anyway thirdgen smog leagle build cant wait
I recently purchased a 2015 LML Duramax. For someone who is interested in deleting emissions equipment for increased durability, reliability, and longevity more so than increased horsepower, is it possible for emission compliant tuning to increase the life of the engine / emission equipment? I was hoping to get +500k miles out of this truck, but now I am not so sure that is possible.
Take care of it, keep up on the oil changes and maintenance and you'll get there. Clean your DPF every 100,000 miles (you can have a muffler shop weld on clamps) and you'll be golden. Costs me $800 bucks every 100,000 miles to clean my Cummins DPF and it's no big deal. I honestly like the clean smelling exhaust, and it's been super reliable for me.
Intact egr is really gonna kill the motor before dpf really will. The dpf limits your efficiency more than anything but the hotter exhaust temps don’t really help anything either. Regen cycles aren’t the greatest thing either though.
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I'm new to diesels and trying to get into the diesel community but has anyone else noticed a similarity to this and gun grabbers? Granted I know one major part is that the 2nd amendment is a right and driving vehicles aren't necessarily but the government going after manufacturers and not the end users.
I hope PPEI is not giving the EPA customer information. I'm hearing strange stories of notes popping up on people inspection reports... Quote from Motor trend article, Is Diesel tuning dead. We need to come to terms with laws that make sense and rules for these types of vehicles. We're actively working with the EPA to explore these types of options."
Kory doesn't care. I no him . All he's wants is those dollar dollar Bill's yall. He always been like that. That's why I wonder why everyone has or had a hard on for his tunes. If you only new.
OEM spends millions of dollars in design development, and I’ll buy that removing emissions restricted equipment is good, I believe this... Diesel performance is dead...
I don’t think anybody gives a shit about deleted or not deleted or emission complaint or not. We just want our diesels to sound like fucking diesels. Figure that out and I’ll buy this emissions complaint shit. And my guess is Kory selling out to these guys and talking about “right way to do something” is going to put him out of business.
Doesn't matter,you can only do so much legally with that platform as well. Even increasing injector size etc on your truck is legally considered tampering...no bs. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Charles henson pre 07 trucks aren’t slow or weak lol and I don’t have to buy def and I can still buy all the parts I want online where as all the new trucks you can’t even get parts for
15:00 Kori: "So, your $40 sensor fails and now you're gonna go spend $5,000 doing deletes and what not? Let's get with the times a little bit here. You coulda fixed your $40 sensor, got an inexpensive tune and viola! Be, be $4,000 less." Really? Maybe I missed something on the PPEI website...like the free unlocked ECM and TCM, or maybe the VIN credits included at no charge when you buy the tuner interface. I don't like paying $ 4,000+ to cover all the R&D costs over and over again, once the tune is written. Maybe amortize the R&D costs out over time and sell more units...make up the profit with higher volume of sales instead of higher unit costs.
Where there is a demand someone will supply. I’m sure someone is working it out already to shop theses out from other counties into the US and just not deal with it
Don’t care about racing. It about long term milage it’s about reliability long term that they don’t have any more While epa screwed up the fuels and now the motors. Add the to the lakes a rivers epa screwed up need to reel the in and 💩canned
jamms 208 ya he has enough money for several lifetimes over already. I would have hoped he would have gotten together with other aftermarket companies an continued to fight the EPAs attack on this market. They should have no say in any off-road applications, now whether someone uses these products illegally is uncontrollable by the manufacturers. Which I truly believe these emission devices are actually put on diesel trucks to not only decrease their efficiency but also there lifespan. Big oil and big truck manufacturers want you to keep buying their products but if they don’t wear out then you don’t have a need for a new one.
I'm in Maryland and you have to take gas vehicles to get the emissions tested every 2 years will diesels be the same soon. And how about old 12 value trucks will they be held accountable.
@@cornillious1 I didn't here this I was asking if they think its going to be like that. If they want diesels to be emission compliant whatever that will mean the only way to make people comply is to test their vehicles.
These laws have been in place for 12 years, it not new, what is new is the enforcement of the law, thanks UA-cam idiots who commit felonies while filming and undermining the EPA. Hope you all who deleted saved your stock exhaust, if not, it’s another 5-8 grand out of your pocket. I just made $300k atleast, I bought every used stock exhaust I could find knowing this day was coming. Glad I save everyone’s number, I’ve already sold 4 back to people this weekend, made $12k by making a phone call, haha
All diesels are scrap iron jungles. They have been for fifty years and the industry has to face it now. Internal combustion engines are only efficient when they have high compression ratios. This increases pollution. The only way to get around that is by having external combustion. Change to steam power.A friend of mine designed and built a steamer over fifty years ago. Demonstrated it to senators, the vehicle industry and others in CA.. What happened? Nothing.. We went up to Ann Arbor to the E.P.A. where they were very conscious of this unit. They were all allowed to wear STEAM IS CLEAN BADGES but not allowed to comment. Don't blame them for all the problems. They gave everybody and the politicians a preview of coming attractions but nobody wanted to know. VOTE STEAM. Diesels are complex, expensive, dirty, noisy and have outlived their usefulness. There is all that pollution to prove it.
Surely Allison isn't going to use cruddy GM to build transmissions they put their name on... I love my Allison MD3060 (6speed), has a built in retarder. It's in a IH 4800, I'd love to put one of these behind my ol F350's 7.3. Man 3 ads within 7.5mins that's a bit much I'm gonna have to find something else to watch. I don't go for these newer trucks anyways so interest lost.
I wouldn’t even mind a clean tune with an SCR in place so long as I still get the sound. Anyway, we don’t all live in a city where smog is a problem and we all can’t afford emissions related maintenance. Keep your California crap and don’t tread on me.
If emissions tuning was such a great idea from the beginning why wasnt this used before?? Cause we all know how bad this emissions crap is for a diesel motor just saying. But now your promoting it like it's a great thing! And that it's not bad at all. What happen to being a diesel lover for the smell and sound of a true diesel. Sorry but this new law is BS. And we should be able todo with what we want with our trucks. Especially for us that use them for better mpg and lower temps. Like just because it's a deleted truck doesnt mean it's always blowing black smoke!
Time for tuners to figure out how to reduce the use of the EGR system. That should be the direction they should push. All for after treatment but eating your own crap is shit. Will require hard work and innovations. Look at where gasoline engines are today compared to the late 70s. We need innovation and advancement to create better ways for our truck to run clean and LONG. Let’s start with what can be done to reduce the EGR hand in things.
There's nothing positive about what this stuffed shirt is saying...EGR/.DPF is Bad for a 20k$ engine. Especially if your going to add more fuel and timing to the engine with these "new" performance talking points you have. Im not buying it.. Neither is anyone else with a decent head on their shoulders. Emissions intact tuning will never work or make a truck(investment) last any longer or provide better fuel economy. It's almost like the EPA has this guy mic'd up and are listening to his every word. The King has allowed and sanctioned my words, hear me!
Id like to agree but as a professional driver I get to see on a daily basis that people can't behave responsibly. A 10k pound truck with 1000 hp, lifted, mud tires, some punk kid showingoff for his friends? Is that really a good idea? As the regulations on commercial drivers keeps getting more and more strict I find myself thinking maybe the real problem is the entitled pricks with their super high performance modified vehicles! Id like to delete my truck only for the reliability and fuel economy issues but the kids with the race bullshit are the ones ruining everything because its never enough! Freedom isn't free. In many cases like guns and deleted diesels it may require responsibility and self control to maintain our freedoms. Otherwise we WILL end up being babysat by big brother. Driving isnt a right, its a privilege and you may want to keep that in mind before you blow past the next guy on the road. That guy is probably a fellow diesel enthusiast... or maybe worse, he may not be anything more than just a voter.
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What are you doing to figure out how to make my truck louder, I need emissions compliant louder exhaust...
Muffler delete?
jsm11weld Good luck with that.
I had a very reputable tuner (which i won't name even though they have already been shutdown from tuning about a year ago by the epa) write me 5 tunes for my lly a little over 6 years ago which is still running very strong thanks to deletes and tuning. Well this guy made one of those tunes a very powerful yet super clean street tune that shifts oh so butter smooth. I'm talking practically 0 soot coming out the exhaust when I'm on the pedal while driving pretty aggressively. I guess where im going with this is they should have a voluntary non-mandated test that if you want to run your deleted truck legally that as long as you can make a run that can pass a low particulate matter test close to the same visual output of a new fully emissions in tact truck those who qualify can be issued a permit to run that tune on the street legally. This would allow us to have legally qualified deleted trucks giving us the same reliability and fuel economy diesel enthusiasts have grown to luv. Then tuners could strive to hit this goal on the deletes. This way you don't put theses great guys, shops and aftermarket manufacturers out of business and as a nation we can burn less fuel in the process which will help the environment stay clean. Everyone with a delete will also have a chance to become compliant again in doing so because let's just be honest; the alternative is telling people its illegal and they better get their act together and get compliant and lets be honest... if you already have a delete there is no way you are going to put an egr and dpf back on your truck. 👍
Anything in the works for emissions compliant exhaust systems that make the deleted sounds??
So for the people who have bought the PPEI support packages to delete their trucks, what does that mean? Is it no longer "support" from Kory?
Im wanting to know the same thing. What happens to all the customers who paid alot of money to delete there vehicles before everything started becoming illegal and cracking down? Do we have to return all of our vehicles back to stock?
This is a simple question with a very simple answer. If I was the best drug dealer in the world, slingin' the best crack rock in town at the very best price and you feel like your one of my top clients..... once the ATF people come and bust me for being a drug dealer and I do my time.... do you really think ATF is going to let me start selling crack again with no penalty?
This is what we are dealing with here. The emissions removed tuning is illegal, it wasn't enforced properly for the past 56 years, now it is being enforced. Kory isn't going to not support those tunes because he doesn't want to, he is going to be told that if he continues to support those tunes, he is still breaking the law as they have chosen to enforce it.
@@redge8279 it didn't "start becoming illegal". It was always illegal. It is really sad though.....you can thank all the idiots 'rolling coal' instead of just deleting and making their trucks run bettter.
Can you have "emissions complient" tuning without a DPF in place? Nox levels low enough that it will pass an inspection.
No. Why would truck manufacturers put on the equipment if not needed
@@agger838 advances in technology might help. Having a bigger turbo than stock would help. The possibility of a cleaner burn that would negate having to have a DPF might be possible. Obviously a stock turbo, deleted truck ain't gonna pass
Did you ask if removing the emission component can still be emission compliant? Really 🤦🏻♂️
@@plog1805 yes. I guess I should word it a little differently for the simpler folk... "can a truck be tuned well enough to not need a DPF by having low enough NOX to pass an emissions evaluation?"
@@plog1805 they said "emissions compliant" was not the same as "emission intact"
A question that I have for Kory is. Say you tune a truck to be emission compliant? Would the tunes have to be redone if you put an aftermarket head on, an aftermarket turbo, aftermarket charge air coolers, and aftermarket injectors and injection pumps. Because I personally think that with changing those pieces from stock. Most of the aftermarket parts help the motor burn fuel more efficiently than the stock parts.
Is the EPA going to crack down on tuners and other mods for gas trucks?
I would say one of the biggest questions to ask Kory is how do we get more diesel sound from our trucks with emissions in tack if possible at all. Obviously not straight pipe loud but anything that makes more noise then stock. L5p duramax! That’s a hide reason why I have a diesel I need some diesel sound in my life ASAP!
What happens to the trucks that already has a full delete with ez link? Will the truck stop running? Will they have to go back to stock?
Correct me if I'm wrong BUT the life of your engine/oil is SHORTENED by putting all the crap back in thru the egr valve. How is it going to interest me to purchase another new diesel truck at around $7X,XXX.XX when the epa is going to tell me I CANT BETTER MY INVESTMENT when it brakes down out of warranty! Not only are they (epa) hurting shops but they (epa) are going to hurt diesel truck sales. I put my purchase on hold.
You need to address these concerns with your state representatives. Let them know how this new enforcement of the law effects your life. What emissions equipment failures have you experienced? How have those failures effected your life and lively hood. Laws aren't made or changed because of our emotions, so leave emotions out of it. Laws are made and changed based off data and facts. Hit them hard with the data and facts and we can get these laws changed.
The gas world fought this fight and won, prohibition fought this fight and won, Marry Jane is fighting this fight and winning one state at a time.
That’s the point
im close to being done with diesels, but yet these guys will continue to sell you a tune even though you cant delete with tune, staying legal and in the game... diesels suck now and im looking at tundras and ram 1500, they pull for half tons...
Also, it's my truck. I should be able to do what ever I want to it.
Z PROtein amen
Sure.
Not according to these wackos if you are polluting the environment
Have a question is there a serviceable DPF that can be removed with flanges so you do it yourself to clean it . 2015 - 2019 and newer ? 6.7 powerstroke.... If so I like to know
Thank You
I just got an LML and ive decided im gonna try the quiet emissions compliant tuning. I had an LBZ that was deleted and had some good tuning. Maybe I'm just getting older but i find hard pressed to delete my emissions when theyve had zero issues.
So can I still but the emmisions intact tunes for my L5P ? I literally baught my unlocked ECM and TCM from HP tuners the day all of this happened, I'm pretty bummed like everyone one else
Also is the EPA going after ez lynk for access to the cloud they operate to get everyone's info
They will its coming
That’s invading privacy. Illegal for them to do.
Not “going” after....Went after! I guarantee they already have access. EPA is extremely powerful. Working on plan-of-action now.
Jeff Campbell good thing you don’t have to have this to tune it 😂 I won’t use it.
Jeff Campbell I was unaware that you were a member of the Virginia House of Delegates. I really hope you are still working on that plan-of-action. I wrote to my state reps and of course I have yet to hear anything back in 2 weeks.
I got a 2012 Duramax Lml. I tuned it with Kory years ago the ppei 5 auto cal and it runs great on tow tunes. But recently I was gonna change the tune to one of the other ones but my hand held changer doesnt let me anymore. So I'm just stuck on tow tunes..How do I fix this??
Emissions Compliance Tune? So we are going to squeeze more power of trucks with the DPF and EGR intact? Wouldnt that make those systems fail or soot up even faster? This seems kind of shady
That was my thought process
Factually, a crappy canned tune will do exactly what you said above. But a good calibrator that puts the time and effort into building an ACTUAL tune, can make the engine run so clean that there is almost no soot being produced by the engine. I am no tuning guru. I built a 5.9L Cummins years ago and spent a weekend on my friends dyno with one goal in mind, no smoke. We achieved that goal with twin CP3's aftermarket injectors and compound turbos. The truck made 998hp with zero visible emissions. He was tuning my truck with EFI Live and this was back in 2012, tuning has only gotten better and more sophisticated since then. I truly believe emissions compliant tuning can help reduce the need to delete anything.
If these tuning guys can do their testing with DPF of and get the soot output to damn near zero, then once the DPF is put back in place there won't be anything to clog it up, which means very little to no more regen, less DEF consumption, less EGR cycling, and no momre clogged filters.
Vinny Himes
Thats a good point , never though of it that way 👍🏻
@@vinnyhimes1190 well put. If we can get the emissions to zero with properly tuned electronics and equipment, can we still put aftermarket mufflers on and get better sounds out of a truck? I was looking into the 6.7 Cummins and if it had compounds, an additional CP3 and good injectors, I don't see why that isn't an issue
If a truck is already delete can u still tune it, like if I do bigger turbo and more
What do y'all think about purchasing compound turbo kits, dual fuelers, large injectors in the future for older trucks like LB7, LLY, and LBZ? Will parts and tuning for these kinds of upgrades be available?
The way I understand it any diesel motor that has been altered from factory specs is against federal epa law. The EPA is changing the rules as they go.
I just bought a absolute gem 4dr 03' superduty 7.3. All stock low miles. It doesent have much for emissions equipment except for maybe a cat converter so really nothing to "delete" and that's why I bought it, But what about installing Aftermarket basics like Exhaust, intake, better turbo, tuner, etc....? Is that now illegal on a pre emissions diesel like mine? Otherwise I'm stuck with the 250hp and 525 ft lbs of torque and I had plans to haul a camper and tow a boat . Still could but it would be slow going. Thanks in advance.
I have a LMM. It seems like newer trucks with def are starting to get dialed in with emissions tuning. What are the reliable options, or what’s in the works for emissions compliant tuning and the older trucks?
First guy to build an oversized dpf filter to still filtrate the exhaust but give it more paths to reduce the backpressure and increase power will be filthy rich!
So if I put the dpf and back on my truck and reprogram it does that make it compliant again or am I sol? Just a little confused..
What years for vehicles dose this apply dose it only apply to trucks that use def or is it any truck that came from factory with a dpf.
So as a truck owner do I need to put all my EPA emissions back on my truck now?
I would like to hear examples of emissions compliant what does that mean? And the difference between emissions intact.
The physical parts aren’t the issue, the real issue is you’re not allowed to change factory tuning at all. Even if there was a way to circumvent keeping the parts on your truck and still deleting it having the tuning altered will be against the law. It won’t be long before they come out with an OBD two reader that tells them if you are running after market. Just like warrantless searches
If I could ask Kory a question it would be this. Will the factory emissions equipment handle big HP day in day out, will the aftermarket produce "better" emissions equipment, will the tuning for these "intact" vehicles keep them from going into a dangerous 4 mph speed limit limp?
Will there be ongoing updates for our current non emission tunes thru ppei?
That's my major question also..I just want continued support on existing . Now u cant just chat with korys guys u have to make a ticket with your vin number included just to ask questions . Really dont want to give my vin up .dont trust him
JOSH dmax I know what you’re saying. It’s bad enough our info is in the cloud
You guys are already screwed.
Only a matter of time before they're knocking on your door 👀
No one will be knocking on your door. If that was true, my door would be off its hinges already with my trucks
Always enjoy the Diesel Podcasts & Cory Willis!
So what happens to all the customers who have spent thousands on deleting there trucks? Will they never be able to update or anything? Just an example, say if you get a bigger turbo and injectors. Can there not be a custom tune made for those upgrades if your truck is deleted? Also do you have to return the trucks back to stock even if it was deleted before all this became against the law? Offroad/Race vehicles could be deleted if you signed the waiver stating that you were using it for offroad use only and now from my understanding NO diesels can be ran without proper emission systems. The guys who signed the waivers and built these badass race trucks are about to get completely FUCKED if this is the case and the Federal government i feel should pay these guys what it would cost to return them back to stock if its that much of a fucking issue bc I know some of these guys have hundreds of thousands in there diesels and to return them back to stock is just not realistic for them to do and nor should they have too. Kory you have made badass tunes over the years and I appreciate everything you have done to fight this bullshit law for us diesel guys. Gentlemen and ladies good luck to but i think shit is about to finally hit the fan this time so those of you who are deleted if you see a cop id suggest let off the pedal and coast on by them. Peace ✌🏻
So we have until the 31st of this month to get what ever we need ? I literally just bought the replacement ECM and TCM for my 2017 L5P a few days ago and this is the first I've heard about all of this, I was going to run the emmisions equipped tunes for a bit until I get all the rest of the parts I need but now I'm not sure what to do, If I can buy them now I guess I'll have to, what about the delete tunes can I buy those until the 31st ?
No. Sept 16th PPEI stopped delete tuning.
Sell it,trade off the diesel,buy a gasser & use the extra $ towards a supercharger.
Average cost of a DPF filter replacement is $5-10k. Average cost to replace the SCR is $2-3k. Now I only graduated high school, but I can see the potential cost savings. Who would want to drive a $60k truck outside of the factory warranty, with that kind of liability hangin underneath? Not me. The end user has a shared responsibility in this but let’s lay some blame on some of the BS tuners out there putting tunes out to purposely “Roll Coal” on a street truck because “it’s cool” Tuners should’ve been ahead of the curve on this one, only offering clean deleted or emissions compliant tuning. Maybe implemented common practice policies across the industry for “Race Only” and not just using a disclaimer to relieve from all responsibility.
Now all of our necks are in the noose and the EPA is the hangman.
Terry Elliott they let companies sell cigarettes with only a disclaimer, and all those smokers are probably worse for the environment than the diesel trucks.
Is pre-emissions trucks like the 03 cummins will be still be able to get good tunes or will they eventually be forced in to off road only
Dustin Drake they can’t force anything that’s older into anything , they will simply be grandfathered in and you can keep on keepin on
The EPA has said any diesel truck I mean any yr . If its is altered it is considered illegal. Doesn't matter. If it's out of OEM specs it's illegal. If you put bigger tires on you are illegal. Sounds crazy? Dont take my word for it. Read for your self.
@@duckco1 oh i belive you but then that takes the fun out of owning any vehicle i got in to the car world because of the fact you could make something so that people would know its you
Kory we had issues with the jeep ecodiesel with the obd flash, and had to bench it . Will i be able to go back to the handheld ?.
I would also like to know if kory could touch on specific differences in emissions compliant vs emissions intact tuning for older trucks like the lb7 seeing as emissions intact tuning is all that’s available for the lb7 from him now
Lb7 didn't even have EGR in the begining except california models, But when it did pop up, it was pre turbo so its basically not even pressurized like the ram's and fords that have egr valves to open and close. Lb7's don't have anything to "turn off or delete" Best motor to modify if your concerned about compliance, stock cranks are good for 1000hp but it starts at 300hp and takes a ton of money to get it up to 1000hp, min of $25-30K plus trans
Curios to know more about the 2019 F250 6.7l intact tuning coming out. Will it reduce DEF usage how will it affect regents and so on.
What about water methanol as an alternative?
What's emissions equipment cost after parts and labor? For trucks with high miles?
Anyone making delete tunes for the 2020 Powerstroke?
So I just went $60,000 in the hole with a longhorn limited to build into a race/shoe truck and now I can’t......
They're fighting it, not sure how long it'll take....
Ricky Harbaugh Should have gotten a gasser lol
jonesboyy93 had a raptor built it to 600hp blew it to pieces traded it in on the cummins
Ricky Harbaugh fuck man
💩 I'm in $80,000 deep,wish it were only $60,000.
Now I'm trying to figure out a way to have a decent truck that's reliable & emissions compliant.
Looking into compound turbos.
The show truck part is easy,any vehicle can be built to show.
The thing I don't get with "emissions compliant tuning" is that you're stilll voiding the manufacturer's warranty and will have to pay out of pocket when part of the system fails. Not if, when. I'd rather just keep it stock with a warranty, but I'm not getting rid of my LML now..
Will the early 2004.5 - 2007 trucks be held to the same emissions tuning restrictions of the 2007.5 and newer trucks?
I'm wondering the same thing
I doubt it they’re more focused on trucks with a dpf or scr system
How will my 2005 6.0 be affected?
strikemaster99 I don’t believe there’s anything the worry about on the older trucks. Only issue would be if your state does testing
It didn't come from the factory with emissions in place, so no. If they start to force people to put emissions equipment in place on their own dime they'll have a lot of lawsuits on their hands.
We all should contact SEMA via their website and ask for them to start a petition for a hearing on this matter. Here is what I sent them, please feel free to copy and paste it, add, or subtract to it. Whatever we do we all need to contact SEMA and our local representative in order to have our voices heard.
I would like to ask if you could use your reach to start a petition to help the diesel community against the overreaching ruling by the EPA. These new fines and rules completely kill the aftermarket for diesel enthusiasts along with the small businesses that serve the diesel community. We should be able to have tuning that works with the Federal Emissions equipment to help our diesel engines run stronger and more efficiently on public roads and on weekends if we are off roading or racing we should be able to swap the DPF to a straight pipe, turn the EGR off and run an off road only calibration to compete. Most enthusiasts in the diesel community are not in a financial situation to have a tube chassis race only diesel vehicle to use for racing or off roading along with the an additional truck and trailer to transport it to events. Most use their daily for work and for fun/light competition on weekends and need reliable efficient vehicles. To rule that owners/shops are under no circumstances able modify a registered diesel vehicle is an overreach considering running larger tires modifies the fuel mileage and would be considered illegal via EPA. Also when out of warranty owners should be able to replace failed parts with upgraded aftermarket parts. If SEMA can get CA to reverse the illegal exhaust law I'm confident you can help with this also.
I would like Kory to answer what kind of financial impact this will have to all the mom and pop local and online diesel performance businesses. I think this is going to cause a major shift in the way people spend money in the economy. I for one purchased a 2018 Mega Cab a few months back knowing aftermarket tuning was an option. Now I'm very much considering taking a loss and selling to build another older truck. It is interesting how in a few days all companies pulled this stuff off the shelves, they had to have know for weeks that this was coming down the pipe.
Hills Auto & Home We knew this day was coming for years. Just not the exact timing.
The auto manufacturing industry knew that the HD truck industry would fall in it's ass once they tightened down on emissions & have started to roll out some nice newer gasser options.
I mean it's not like a factory stock HD diesel truck is fuel efficient so why not go with a gasser & add some boost 😁
A smart man would pull his stock from Cummins & shift it towards whipple 😁
Charles henson An even wiser man would see the electric motor and the F150 are a towing and pulling beast and it will make the Diesel engine seem weird in 5 years.
@@plog1805 maybe,but that's a light duty platform.
I'm sure once it's been proven there it'll be implemented into the HD's.
He is like a trailer sales man that sells u a 14k trailer with out asking for a cdl
Soo glad there’s no video for your casting couch! LOL
I have a 2015 ecodiesel ram. Is there something for it?
I have a wonderful with the GDE time and the banks bullet. Totally emission compliant and works great.
Does egr hurt the life span of my motor?
Why does emissions equipment have a 10 year warranty but if my turbo fails at 61k because soot build up, I have to pay for it.
Yes the egr hurts the engine
Will we be able to disable/delete the egr?
You can, but there goes your emissions compliance. As long as nobody looks under the hood you'll be good.
No. This is the exact reason for the EPA changes.
Delete tuning will go on a smaller scale. Give it some time. the EPA will go after something different when they lose interest in this aspect.
Cummins Owner The OEMs are changing how their computers can be modified and locking them up from being altered ie. L5P
@@plog1805 yeah, but they have found a way around the l5p issues with an ecm swap. Its a little more expensive to delete but it can be deleted.
What about tuning companies outside of the U.S.
I suppose it depends on where those companies sell their products. Are you talking about those tuning companies being able to source products from USA?
Ask him to move to canada and keep up the good work I'll drive my truck up there for deletes screw the epa and government overreach
What this for me with me running diesel from 85
I had the 1000 with the asini and i had nothing but problems with it and the engine even through a rod multiple times and evan a lifter lol but anyway thirdgen smog leagle build cant wait
Just gonna be some international sales where we buy from overseas. They don’t check packages for computer parts.
I recently purchased a 2015 LML Duramax. For someone who is interested in deleting emissions equipment for increased durability, reliability, and longevity more so than increased horsepower, is it possible for emission compliant tuning to increase the life of the engine / emission equipment? I was hoping to get +500k miles out of this truck, but now I am not so sure that is possible.
Take care of it, keep up on the oil changes and maintenance and you'll get there. Clean your DPF every 100,000 miles (you can have a muffler shop weld on clamps) and you'll be golden. Costs me $800 bucks every 100,000 miles to clean my Cummins DPF and it's no big deal. I honestly like the clean smelling exhaust, and it's been super reliable for me.
Intact egr is really gonna kill the motor before dpf really will. The dpf limits your efficiency more than anything but the hotter exhaust temps don’t really help anything either. Regen cycles aren’t the greatest thing either though.
Hi kory this is Scott I know you're a very busy man but when you get a chance get in contact with my company Central Valley HHO Inc love to talk with you.
lmao. everything about what he says is funny. he sounds like a guy that got out of jail and found jesus. lol
Will you be talking to Gale Banks about this?
Kory was hanging out with banks at sema
Nope you are right it is gm trans branded by Allison
Man that sucks..... Allison is the best auto, why let GM ruin their name?
We have people of pushed engines pass 550 horsepower and reduce nox over 80%.
I'm new to diesels and trying to get into the diesel community but has anyone else noticed a similarity to this and gun grabbers? Granted I know one major part is that the 2nd amendment is a right and driving vehicles aren't necessarily but the government going after manufacturers and not the end users.
Jonathan Hernandez same snowflakes coming after everything
I hope PPEI is not giving the EPA customer information. I'm hearing strange stories of notes popping up on people inspection reports... Quote from Motor trend article, Is Diesel tuning dead. We need to come to terms with laws that make sense and rules for these types of vehicles. We're actively working with the EPA to explore these types of options."
Kory doesn't care. I no him . All he's wants is those dollar dollar Bill's yall. He always been like that. That's why I wonder why everyone has or had a hard on for his tunes. If you only new.
He will be bankrupt within 5 years. He sold out and it’s going to kill the whole aftermarket.
OEM spends millions of dollars in design development, and I’ll buy that removing emissions restricted equipment is good, I believe this...
Diesel performance is dead...
Just go back to pre-emission engines. Throw a newer model cab on the frame.
Lol the casting couch joke
I don’t think anybody gives a shit about deleted or not deleted or emission complaint or not. We just want our diesels to sound like fucking diesels. Figure that out and I’ll buy this emissions complaint shit. And my guess is Kory selling out to these guys and talking about “right way to do something” is going to put him out of business.
Glad I kept my 07 truck and didn’t get a newer one
I feel that the price of my 06 5.9 just went up
Doesn't matter,you can only do so much legally with that platform as well.
Even increasing injector size etc on your truck is legally considered tampering...no bs.
Look it up if you don't believe me.
So basically the only bonus to owning a dinosaur of a truck is longevity but at the expense of driving a slow weak vehicle.
Charles henson pre 07 trucks aren’t slow or weak lol and I don’t have to buy def and I can still buy all the parts I want online where as all the new trucks you can’t even get parts for
EGRless tuning
15:00 Kori: "So, your $40 sensor fails and now you're gonna go spend $5,000 doing deletes and what not? Let's get with the times a little bit here. You coulda fixed your $40 sensor, got an inexpensive tune and viola! Be, be $4,000 less." Really? Maybe I missed something on the PPEI website...like the free unlocked ECM and TCM, or maybe the VIN credits included at no charge when you buy the tuner interface. I don't like paying $ 4,000+ to cover all the R&D costs over and over again, once the tune is written. Maybe amortize the R&D costs out over time and sell more units...make up the profit with higher volume of sales instead of higher unit costs.
Where there is a demand someone will supply. I’m sure someone is working it out already to shop theses out from other counties into the US and just not deal with it
It’s not the hp that gets me pissed on the new truck with the EPA fucking use it my shit MPG with the damn DEF that I can’t stand.
PPEI for life
Ron Lealiou Or at least till Sept 16th, 2019
Don’t care about racing. It about long term milage it’s about reliability long term that they don’t have any more While epa screwed up the fuels and now the motors. Add the to the lakes a rivers epa screwed up need to reel the in and 💩canned
Sell your soul much...
what you rather him do, keep breaking the law, lose his company, cost a whole bunch of jobs, take food off his families plate?
jamms 208 ya he has enough money for several lifetimes over already. I would have hoped he would have gotten together with other aftermarket companies an continued to fight the EPAs attack on this market. They should have no say in any off-road applications, now whether someone uses these products illegally is uncontrollable by the manufacturers. Which I truly believe these emission devices are actually put on diesel trucks to not only decrease their efficiency but also there lifespan. Big oil and big truck manufacturers want you to keep buying their products but if they don’t wear out then you don’t have a need for a new one.
I'm in Maryland and you have to take gas vehicles to get the emissions tested every 2 years will diesels be the same soon. And how about old 12 value trucks will they be held accountable.
Wesley Truax where did you hear about the diesel emission testing? I’m in MD too. Haven’t heard that.
@@cornillious1 I didn't here this I was asking if they think its going to be like that. If they want diesels to be emission compliant whatever that will mean the only way to make people comply is to test their vehicles.
Wesley Truax got it. I don’t see it happening. For existing vehicles. I could see it 2020 vehicles forward
Not for Street or Race Applications. lol😆
Wait until warranty gone 30 k to do 6.7 engine with 25k on it Due to emission That is bull shit
These laws have been in place for 12 years, it not new, what is new is the enforcement of the law, thanks UA-cam idiots who commit felonies while filming and undermining the EPA. Hope you all who deleted saved your stock exhaust, if not, it’s another 5-8 grand out of your pocket. I just made $300k atleast, I bought every used stock exhaust I could find knowing this day was coming. Glad I save everyone’s number, I’ve already sold 4 back to people this weekend, made $12k by making a phone call, haha
All diesels are scrap iron jungles. They have been for fifty years and the industry has to face it now. Internal combustion engines are only efficient when they have high compression ratios. This increases pollution. The only way to get around that is by having external combustion. Change to steam power.A friend of mine designed and built a steamer over fifty years ago. Demonstrated it to senators, the vehicle industry and others in CA.. What happened? Nothing.. We went up to Ann Arbor to the E.P.A. where they were very conscious of this unit. They were all allowed to wear STEAM IS CLEAN BADGES but not allowed to comment. Don't blame them for all the problems. They gave everybody and the politicians a preview of coming attractions but nobody wanted to know. VOTE STEAM. Diesels are complex, expensive, dirty, noisy and have outlived their usefulness. There is all that pollution to prove it.
Surely Allison isn't going to use cruddy GM to build transmissions they put their name on...
I love my Allison MD3060 (6speed), has a built in retarder. It's in a IH 4800, I'd love to put one of these behind my ol F350's 7.3.
Man 3 ads within 7.5mins that's a bit much I'm gonna have to find something else to watch. I don't go for these newer trucks anyways so interest lost.
I wouldn’t even mind a clean tune with an SCR in place so long as I still get the sound. Anyway, we don’t all live in a city where smog is a problem and we all can’t afford emissions related maintenance. Keep your California crap and don’t tread on me.
If emissions tuning was such a great idea from the beginning why wasnt this used before?? Cause we all know how bad this emissions crap is for a diesel motor just saying. But now your promoting it like it's a great thing! And that it's not bad at all. What happen to being a diesel lover for the smell and sound of a true diesel. Sorry but this new law is BS. And we should be able todo with what we want with our trucks. Especially for us that use them for better mpg and lower temps. Like just because it's a deleted truck doesnt mean it's always blowing black smoke!
Time for tuners to figure out how to reduce the use of the EGR system. That should be the direction they should push. All for after treatment but eating your own crap is shit. Will require hard work and innovations. Look at where gasoline engines are today compared to the late 70s. We need innovation and advancement to create better ways for our truck to run clean and LONG. Let’s start with what can be done to reduce the EGR hand in things.
All of these parts and tunes say. "For off-road use only. Been getting away with it long enough I suppose.
There's nothing positive about what this stuffed shirt is saying...EGR/.DPF is Bad for a 20k$ engine. Especially if your going to add more fuel and timing to the engine with these "new" performance talking points you have. Im not buying it.. Neither is anyone else with a decent head on their shoulders. Emissions intact tuning will never work or make a truck(investment) last any longer or provide better fuel economy. It's almost like the EPA has this guy mic'd up and are listening to his every word. The King has allowed and sanctioned my words, hear me!
Id like to agree but as a professional driver I get to see on a daily basis that people can't behave responsibly. A 10k pound truck with 1000 hp, lifted, mud tires, some punk kid showingoff for his friends? Is that really a good idea? As the regulations on commercial drivers keeps getting more and more strict I find myself thinking maybe the real problem is the entitled pricks with their super high performance modified vehicles! Id like to delete my truck only for the reliability and fuel economy issues but the kids with the race bullshit are the ones ruining everything because its never enough! Freedom isn't free. In many cases like guns and deleted diesels it may require responsibility and self control to maintain our freedoms. Otherwise we WILL end up being babysat by big brother. Driving isnt a right, its a privilege and you may want to keep that in mind before you blow past the next guy on the road. That guy is probably a fellow diesel enthusiast... or maybe worse, he may not be anything more than just a voter.
Just gonna be some international sales where we buy from overseas. They don’t check packages for computer parts.