Special Ops Handguns Pt. 4 - Drills
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2015
- Super Dave and Ken join me again at the range to fire off some of the Special Ops Handguns we've got. This is from an episode of TAC-TV Season 2. In Pt. 4 we run the Box Drill, Compass Drill, and my very own TEST Drill.
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Damn, Dave shooting that Beretta is a thing of beauty
Almost zero muzzle flip
Not bragging and no bullsh!t, I think I run a Beretta 92 better than he does. But he's definitely very good as well.
So many people go to the range and just shoot. Trigger time is great but running drills is what honestly raises your skill level. Go to the range with a plan otherwise your just slinging lead without purpose. Great video Larry
Excellent drills, excellent shooting under pressure of the clock. That's why these pros get paid the big bucks. Watch and learn how it's done.
What a bunch of badasses. It was so cool to watch them shoot. I just love how smooth their movements are with handguns, it's amazing to watch.
Wow, nice groups with that beretta. Mine shoots pretty damn stright also. I was able to pull off a 6inch group at 50 yards. Took my time and was on a bench, they truly are some accurate pistols.
The ones used by the AMU Pistol Team with their ammo will shoot around an 1 1/2 at 50 yards out of a Randsom Rest.
thanks bro
Enjoyed this It's like watching the real life Expendables. So much history, knowledge & skills. Thanks for the video.
It's great having having someone with your knowledge and experience here on UA-cam. Thank you for sharing it with us Mr Vickers!!
By far the best video series on handguns. Just awesome.
putting special operators up against each other in drills is freakin epic. Vickers tactical you should make more videos of very competitive special operators that are going up against each other in drills. It's very entertaining. Your videos are awesome. keep it up. have a good one
one of the best videos on this channel
Glocks don't shoot left but we do...... it's most likely trigger control and/or finger pad placement. Finger pad placement test takes a couple of seconds and it can be slightly different for every gun. But definitely still great shooting.
Well yes it's all a bit relative, meaning that you can either do that, and familiarize with the gun, or adjust slightly the rear sight and keep shooting like you always did. It's a matter of choices and options available, of course if the g17 didn't allow you to adjust the sight it would all be about changing how you shoot with it, but it does, so that's an option too. The fact that with the sight alignment all of Larry's shots would be a perfectly centered with that kind of tweak kind of makes clear that the sight adjustment is the wisest way to go, as changing the way he handles the trigger could instead introduce other issues that would need adjusting (ie lessened perception of the trigger wall reset)
Love your videos Larry always fun and interesting
Looking good!
love this stuff Larry keep it up brother
Great video. Great footwork.
Son of a....No wonder I always hit left with my 17. I thought it was just me and the gun. I don't have that problem with my 1911, Sig, or Shield. Well at least I know what I have to do now.
Or, hear me out, usually glocks shoot left because of the more aggressive grip angle. The more aggressive angle mean you have to to cant your support hand further forward to lock it in, if you dont your pistol will turn towards the weaker side sending your rounds left. Id be very interested to know if thats not it, why a glock would send rounds left when sights are dead on, that would be a terrible pistol.
great video very much respect
The Beretta's slide looks like it isnt even moving wow
Thats what happens when you actually train and practice.
@@proguninc4080ok
Good to see a couple of fellow veterans absolutely OWNING the range! Good shooting men!
Super Dave is an amazing shoot. The guy you want next you in a gunfight!
Good shooting
GOOD STUFF
man nice and smooth
Good job bros
Great video guys, if you doing another one a droid over head would be good to see the movements.
I love this video. My 2 very favorite combat/duty handguns, the Glock and the Beretta 92.
😎💪👍
I personally prefer the Glock 19, but the 17 is great too.
Good video! Good shooting!
Thank you bros
LV and KH. Sop gods.
awesome!!!!!
Holy Sh*t Larry! The cross fit is paying off brother!
Pt. 5 - Drills (with 1911 platform)
4:00 thanks bro
Sir, how about a comparison on pistols participated during the German Police Trials in the 1970s, namely:
H&K PSP (P7)
SIG P225 (known in that test as the P6)
Walther P5
I figured the beretta would smoke the glock at 25 yards if the shooters are near comparable. Nothing wrong with Glocks, I carry one. But you can't tell me the single action trigger isn't going to perform better at any sort of distance.
Thx bros!
For me The P226 is the best gun. The Hk45 and 5.7 is really good but the p226 is amazing !
Michael Walk agreed. P226 is almost always the way to go for a combat pistol
226 from W.Germany!
good shooting Larry
Can't wait to take "the test" myself
In this episode Mr. vickers didn't really talk much, that meant I could pretend that he was David Brent from the uk "The Office".
No disrespect but you too have some similarities physically =)
Thanks for the video!
If you had a camera drone/crane doing an ariel shot of your movements that would be very helpful!
Where's the body armour? Eyes, ears and armour. Great vid...
Hahaha he called the Beretta "the pizza blaster." As an Italian-American, I approve.
Same here. I didn't know how to take that to tell you the truth. A dis to Italians or just joking around? Now if we are doing that drill - 10 shots into a pizza from 10 yards, I am all in.
The M9 has excellent inherent accuracy. And the single action trigger pull is pretty awesome. Those are two advantages the M9 has over the Glock. But for first round speed and accuracy a striker fired pistol will beat the older designed DA / SA style actions in the hands of an average shooter.
You know what I'd like to see is some tunnel rat training. Or something that I'm used to like crawl space training. Very claustrophobic tight quarters with very minimal movement and quick acquisition abilities. Search for that Larry Vickers you did pretty damn good. And please don't get me wrong gentleman I am not falling I am just making a mere suggestion for training.
whats the size of the all black circle on that target?
Thes Test should be called The Humbler.
Bob Surratt The Humbler is it's own drill, the 700 point aggregate.
Good job Larry.. now every shitty glock shooter is gonna be running around with their rear sight flush to the right...lol
Lmao
"My Glock is shooting to the left". Bullshit Larry. You're too damn prideful to admit your grip and trigger press inadequacy. Glocks don't shoot to the left, people shoot to the left.
@@SuperBuzz71 so you're telling the one man in the world that can actually tell you if a Glock is shooting left that he is a bad shot? You are a special kind of stupid!
@Abhishek Singh Actually there are a lot of people in the world that can tell you he is wrong, Glocks don't shoot low left because of the gun. But what do I know about Glocks? I have countless top 5 finishes in GSSF Glock matches all over the country including one overall match win shooting bone stock Glocks. I just shot the GSSF Gunny Challenge last week, invitational only annual Glock competition that included Blake Miguez. I have 6X perfect 500 scores in GSSF indoor matches which include 10rds timed at 25yds. But, I'm not an internet shooting "expert" making videos that often leans on excuses like some. And, I guess you know more about it than me from all your firsthand UA-cam experience. You must be a special kind of smart.
@@SuperBuzz71 Obviously Glocks right from the factory don't shoot left (with some exceptions). I think it is certainly possible that Larry's Glock is shooting left and he has to adjust the sights. My glock 34 started shooting high right for some reason and I adjusted the sights and it was fine. One of my G19s came from the factory with the rear sight all the way to the left and I tapped it to the right and it hit steel at 75 yards easily. My point is that Larry's Glock in particular might be shooting left. Many of my Glocks shot left from the factory and I know it isn't a trigger control issue since I can pick up a stock M&P and it will hit dead center. It is certainly plausible that Larry's Glock is shooting left.
I'm using the hell out of these drills. Do you have any CQB pointers w/ rifles. Better yet... I'm a Medic and would like to train w/ tc3 (aidebag & casualty protection). Any ideas?
My group is very similar to Larry's. With my G19 I hit to the left just as he does. I figured it was my trigger control, but now i'm unsure.
I just finished my LE Pistol Qual with an issued G17 and it shot slightly left through the entire course. The Armorer refused to adjust the sights and blamed it on my trigger control. I compensated by aiming slightly right of center and ended up shooting 100s on both Day and Night Combat Courses, 100s on both Night Qual Courses and a 100 and 99.6 on the Day Qual Courses.
It's your trigger control. The overtravel on a Glock trigger is unkind to less-than-perfect follow-through. If you put more finger on the trigger, you can mitigate some of it.
Naw we put it in pistol vice when the class was over and it was hitting 4 inches to the left at 25 yds. Dosent seem like a lot but when the bullseye is 3 inches across it is the difference in getting Top Gun and struggling to qualify.
He's basically saying that his gun was shooting left sir you're the one holding the Glock.
If a right handed shooter is shooting left it's probably the shooter
What air protection system were you using?
To bad Larry didn't use his MEU/SOC 1911.
Pizza blaster I'm dead.
Beretta 92 best pistol ever made
If you run "The Test" with a 1911, is the time adjusted to allow for a reload, or do you just fire 7/8 rounds in 7/8 seconds?
Robert Elmore you run it at 9 seconds and you runs the drill from the holster instead of low ready. No reload necessary.
I tried "the test" thinking it was going to be super easy, its not
out of 20 rounds in about 10 seconds (i am still new to side arms) with a sig p2022, 7 landed in the white
USCommando These guys have practiced alot with pistols. Vickers has been in the delta force. That is why they make it look so easy.
The shooting range i went to called it Center Mass Engagement and it sounds easy but without the experience, it a pain to see the target afterward
Well it's supposed to be performed at 10 yards 10 rounds 10 seconds. I would suggest slowing it down, you did double the round count in the allotted time.
+USCommando Take up bullseye shooting. It will hone trigger control like nothing else...and you shoot that b6 at 25 yards, 1 handed!
Well shit now I need to go take the test
This was a B-8, correct?
I'm gonna see if I can find something similar here in Sweden whenever I start shooting. (Just need a job to fund this awesome yet expensive hobby..)
+MatteV2 Just print your own. For this drill anything outside the bull doesn't count anyway.
Here's a link to a pdf with some common NRA type targets. I typically shoot at the B-3 style target at 10 yards.
www.1bad69.com/ruger/bullseyepistoltargets.pdf
Oh dude, thank you so much!
MatteV2
Paper plates.
i respect the mans background but im just throwing this out there.
its your personal pistol youve put how many rounds through? you want to look good on tv, have a great collection of pistols and you chose the one you havent adjusted the sights on?
You said glocks generally shoot left... im wondering if they typically will shoot to the right if a left handed person is shooting it because i generally pull slightly to the right
andrew coover i am a lefty and do shoot to the right with my glock
Ahh ha I think we found a correlation! I wonder if it's because of the hump on the grip that it just slightly moves it from being perfectly straight
andrew coover Two words: TRIGGER CONTROL
Haha why don't you tell those two words to Larry Vickers seems how he just stated they generally shoot to the left for him
andrew coover I wish I could. Because he knows that he's lying. That's simply not true. Glocks DO NOT shoot left. That's absurd. And besides the facts, just use common sense. What's more likely? One of the most famous pistols in the world known for its reliability is "shooting left"? .. OR Vickers doesn't have perfect trigger control? Just because he owns his own company and has his own UA-cam channel doesn't mean that everything he says is true. Again.. he knows it's not true. But he's not going to admit he pulled his shots to the left on his on channel.
sorry for the lack of knowledge, having never used nra targets. But I was looking at nra b-8 targets and was wondering which one this is? or rather what size is the bull? I see there is the b8p but it looks much smaller, also came across the b8c which looks more similar to this. Any info would be appreciated
Beautbag Carcillo B8(p) is the full size 25 yard pistol target, it has a 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 and 5 ring, the B8c is a replacement center for the B8p, it has a 10, 9, 8 and 7 ring. So either will work, both the same size bull, but the B8c's are cheaper, easier to store/lug around and work better if using IDPA type targets.
CromConsultants perfect! thanks a lot
CromConsultants What's the size of the black circle?
Not positive, 5-6 inches I think, 10 ring is like 2.5 inch and another 3inches out for the 9 ring, give or take....About the same size of a roll of duct tape if you wanted to make your own.....The head of an IDPA target is about the same size to, its a little bigger, but close enough for most people, especially if you can keep them in the A box.
CromConsultants Ok, Thanks! I will have to try that out next time on the range.
anyone know the size of the black circle on the last drill?
+dvskid33 If standard target's head is 6 inches the circle would be roughly 5.3 inches.
How's that guy get ahold of a Beretta 92G-SD and I can't find them anywhere in the gun shops/stores?
Steve austin Wilson Combat
MrBigden37 There are none around here in the gun shops but, I finally found one online that I now have but haven't been able to shoot yet. I'll be getting out to the range to shoot it by this weekend.
Steve austin what did you end up paying for it?
***** 1200
Thanks Steve.
It appears Vickers is left eye dominant. Shooting with the right hand and being left eye dominant does play a factor in this to me as well. In my case, I have to adjust the sights to shoot correctly.
That being said. His group is better then most people here myself included. I don't care if its "left" the target. At 20 yards, and being a retired veteran. That's pretty darn good. I have no right to tell him how to improve anything. If fixing his sights causes him to hit where he wants. Well crap. Let him. His group was consistent.
I agree. I am similar to LAV in the aspect of cross dominant hand/eye. Left hand/ right eye for me. But my rifle skills are all right handed. Can be an advantage when transitioning from primary to secondary weapon. With practice.
It was 10 yards not 20 and with lots of practice almost anyone can pass this test. It's all about time and availability of resources.
what kind of glasses was Larry wearing?
Looks like Rudy Project Magster. I think all 3 of them are wearing rudy projects but diff models.
cool, thanks
did larry lost some weight
Nice shooting! I'm always wondering on whether to lock your arms/shoulders in a fully extended position VS taking a more relaxed arms position and just focusing on maintaining the front sight on target. It seems like I have more stability locking out but that can lead to mashing my trigger due to my muscles being much more tense.
Never an XD
Any one know why he's Super Dave?
Not sure but my Dad had him as a instructor for gun draining a while back and said he always went with that name
rgrflan He was senior NCO at JFK Special Warfare Center - he can call himself God if he wants
Glocks shoot left for me too. Anyone know why?
iyn1911 could be your grip or the way you even pull the trigger.
Neil Hightower the range masters at my range say it happens to them also. I came from shooting revolvers and 1911s. Shooting mostly blazer 115gr. Aluminum.
iyn1911 adjust the sights then
Try sinking more finger on the trigger
Neil Hightower
Un-ban James Yeager.
I just did that all black thing with a beretta yesterday, on my 1st try at it, never having held a hand-gun before.
Lucky or just naturally good ?
Great shooting, but I think these "experts" forgot the first fundamental of combat drills. Be in good physical condition! Larry of course gets a pass. He explained in one video that it's difficult because of his long list of injuries, and he has every right to say so. We all know he's a great American with honorable and brave service. To be honest, I'm just nitpicking and cracking jokes at the older guys. The man with the awesome stache was a SSG I believe, not sure about the other one. He's the fattest in the group so we'll just call him Ned Beatty. That's a deliverance reference, do you get it?? Great vid Larry, and thank you for your great service and leading the way for the soldiers of my generation!
You fuckin disrespectful dimwit. That "other" guy was senior NCO atthe John F Kennedy Special Warfare Traing Center in Ft Bragg. You have Google, use it.
I believe Super Dave Harrington spent most of his Army career in Special Forces, and retired as a Master Sergeant.
Special ops guys dont use cover and increased heart rate? they just practice shooting paper in a solid stance under perfect conditions? And i though special ops guys were well trained... go figure.
FoulPet these are basic drills ordinary people at home can recreate. I’m sure their pro drills are more intense. Why don’t you post your performances online?
why do you guys say bro soooooooo much
xJACKEDx UP33 it’s a gun thing
If your around certain Tier One operators you’ll notice it’s just a part of their slang. If your around Seals you’ll hear them say “No worry’s”. It’s their thing. But that is also a psychological tool used to manage stress. And a reminder not to sweat the Small shit.
The music 🤦🏽♂️ so unnecessary
Hahaha "my gun's shooting a little left". Glocks DO NOT shoot left. It's TRIGGER CONTROL. Vickers just doesn't want to admit he needs to work on trigger control. There's no harm in admitting it. Shooting skills are perishable. That's why I respect advanced shooters/instructors that admit their flaws. Not blame it on the gun.
Joshua Mascorro Are you effing kidding me - that's one of a few people on the planet who can actually tell you if a Glock IS shooting left and you're smart assing him? Two of the other five are on this video.
IanDinBC LOL ohhh I haven't laughed that hard since I was a little girl.
Now shut the fuck up kid.
KING_GENO pound sand, racist loser (nice profile by the way - but crappy opsec)
IanDinBC pound sand? crappy opsec? lol what the fuck are you even talking about.. are those the new street terms kids are using now a days? racist loser? Boy you must have read my biography you know so much!
IanDinBC for those too slow to follow, I'll type slowly - lots of people (due to poor technique) shoot Glock pistols low left, or low right and the majority of the time it IS technique. Larry Vickers, Ken Hackathorn , and Super Dave aren't in that group because all 3 of them are or were instructors for and/or members of Delta (CAG, or whatever it is this week). They have all had access to unlimited ammunition budgets - think about getting paid to shoot tens of thousands of rounds for years. They are all additionally championship competition shooters, Ken and Larry helped create IDPA. All have taught more real life hard core shooters how to shoot than most of you have seen on TV. They aren't screwing up trigger pulling.