Understanding The Myths And Realities Of Israel | Ilan Pappe | TMR
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- Ilan Pappe, professor of history at the University of Exeter and Director of the European Centre for Palestine Studies, to discuss the ongoing conflict in Israel and Gaza.
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Professor Pappe then joins, diving right into Israel’s response to the Hamas attacks on October 7th, including the media’s persistent revenge narrative arming the population for a compassionless siege on Gaza, the pervasive understanding by Israeli civilians that the Israeli army and government can’t and won’t protect them, and why - despite seeing the necessity - the Israeli public is not open to a discussion of alternatives to Israeli occupation. Stepping back, Professor Pappe then walks Sam and Emma through the genesis of the Zionist movement as an attempt to redefine Jewish identity as a nationality amid increasing persecution (and national-identity building) in 19th-century Europe, tackling backing of the project by European states and the US during the onset of the 20th Century, as they sought a clean expulsion of Jews from Europe, with an extra emphasis for the British on expanding their sphere of influence. After expanding on the Western-led colonial structure of the establishment of Israel - particularly in the ethnic cleansing of local populations - Ilan Pappe walks through the thriving cosmopolitan world of pre-Israel Palestine, one in which communities and religions coexisted, as a proper pretext for a discussion of the following eviction and cleansing of these local populations in the leadup to the Nakba in 1948, also touching on the use of Europe’s own crimes against Jewish people as a justification for the violence being imposed upon the Palestinians from 1948 on. Wrapping up, Sam, Emma, and Professor Pappe explore the obvious failings of an Israeli two-state solution, why a single multi-racial, multi-ethnic democracy with full rights for Palestinians is the only viable option, and how Israel and Palestine are reading the international responses to the occupation.
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Thanks for this interview Sam, professor Pappé is one of the most humanistic historians in the world.
As a Palestinian, I can't find a better way to resolve this problem than creating a secular democratic state for ever one . People whether are Muslims, Christians, or jews should be equal in rights and obligations.
strange statement, better than the secular system that proven to be catastrophic for equality we have just to see how USA is treating its african americans and indians. There is a better alternative which is islamic system that proven to be the best system for equality, if you paid attention to what prof Ilan said you would have know as a palestinians that muslims, jews, christians lived together and they didn't know what was the religion of each other and lived in peace under ottmans.
@@crocheting1366 LOL, Yeah so how that lslamic system working in yemen? I need look no further then how the Saudis (muslim arabs), treats yemen (muslim arabs) to know what you said is total BS. The Saudis have killed more yemen people in the last 9 years of the Yemen war, than Israel has palestinians EVER! Such atrocities and yet one can't get more islamic system then them, well except maybe Iran. By the way which is the true islamic system: Shia or Sunni? The amount of blood split on that question alone is outstanding.
@@crocheting1366😂 They knew who were Christians when they went to collect the dhimmi tax, and the child tax where they kidnapped Christian children to be slaves.
Muslims would never support this lol
One BILLION percent, my friend!❤
I'm also appalled by the lack of compassion people can have for the plight of the Palestinians.
Unfortunatwly this is tge sick world we live in. The masses are tottaly ignorant, they will just swallow what the politicians and mainstream media tell them what to believe.
So glad to see Pappe get mainstream attention outside of academia recently. The man is a legendary historian.
@@rachelforshee6014LOL. Since his account of what happened (Palestinians were forced out against their will) matches human nature and everything we can glean from human history, versus the 'preferred narrative' of those applying continuous violence to the Palestinians (they voluntarily abandoned their homes, and businesses, and property, and took their children to be homeless refugees as a 'gift' to strangers who themselves were regugees from foreigners' wars) is on its face nonsensical... he seems pretty grounded in reality.
As a Palestinian. I lan pappe is a hero . I listen to him and he sounds like a prophet to me . I respect everything he says .
That’s good.
Man I don't even know how you are not hopeless. I live thousands of mile away and I have nightmares about the war crimes and genocide going on in Gaza. Just the other day I had a nightmare about being on Gaza and woke up the in the middle of the night. I can't even imagine what it is like to have literally no allies when you are constantly being bombed and murdered. You guys are the strongest people I know. I hope some day, Israel will be held responsible for the genocide they are doing to your people. :(
@@poggybitz513I hear ya. It’s horrible
@@poggybitz513please if you can mobilize and help stop the genocide please do
@@MutaziliHow can we? My heart breaks for Gaza and palestinians. It's not like we could go over there, we would die in an airstrike and investigated as terrorists. 🤡 world
Respect to the channel for having prof. Ilan Pappe on ,
we have to give more voice to the academic brave men/women,
history is relavant.
Thanks for the “Messianic Jews”. I need that clarification.
Agreed , much respect
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America.
@@okernist-gut223 No information is a problem for the left. Information is only troublesome for reductionists who live in cages of anti-intellectualism sophistry and paternalist elitism on the right and centre right.
I didn’t know about the brochure but it would makes sense to some degree that people outside of the Third Reich would be seeking whatever information or parallels they could have to get along with the new establishment cult in Germany and fascism in Europe. By the end of the war it would likely have been obsolete. Just guessing.
@@okernist-gut223as he said, when zionists run out of arguments they keep going back in history to find justification to the oppression they impose on the Palestinian people
My grandmother was born in Haifa. Her grave says Haifa, Palestine. She left in 1948 ish...involuntarily
May she rest in peace. I am sorry for your loss.
It's very nice there by the way.
My grandmother was born there too. She was forced to leave in 1948 as well. So sad to say that many of us share similar stories.
In the 1940s many were displaced or killed... we moved on. It might have said palestine but it was never a sovereign and the people their did not see themselves as a country of Palestinians until 1963.... with the intent in that expression of taking Israel off the map. Palestinian then as now would not settle for Gaza and the west bank they wanted Haifa and they wanted ZERO JEWS in Palestine because Islam is FASCIST and bigoted.
My father was born in Acre, forced to leave in 1948
I found this interview moving, because Pappe displays such compassion and understanding of how things got to this point without denying the humanity of anyone involved. The vision of a multicultural nation where Israelis and Palestinians live together in peace seems so far away, but he reminds us that it existed in the past.
I think of places like Ireland, or even Europe post WWII - who would have thought that all Europe would one day be united when Germany was ruled by Nazis? But it will take first an acknowledgment of what has happened, and what is happening now, and a genuine commitment to finding a solution.
This is the best point to make. Everyone coexisted before the creation of Israel. Jews were there and have been before it. There were Jews in much of the Islamic world as well. And it's very useful to portray the creation of Israel with other disastrous policies of the time, and at a time before worldwide decolonisation. It's time to heal old wounds, and you don't get that with bombings or terror attacks. 😓
@@globalist1990 but were Arabs and Jews equal back then? Given how Muslims treat non-Muslim dhimmis horribly to this day, I really don't expect much.
@@ianhomerpura8937 i don't know, really. It hasn't been like that always through history. If only a state with no religion would be accepted by both parts...
It may have existed but the Israelis decided they were not having it in 1948.
@@DavidBarnwell876tkdja the Arabs decided to kill Jews first in 1929, making the Haganah paranoid to the point of arming themselves even more. The 1936 revolts proved to the Jews that having their own state is the only way for them not to be massacred by these thugs.The Arabs brought the events of 1948 upon themselves.
This a rational man. An Israeli Jew speaking the truth to an extent, that if you watch the ridiculous American main stream media all your life, you will not get even a close idea about Palestine and myths of Israel. Thanks for your show.
Unfortunately too many people don't want to spend the time to educate themselves about the whole history and truth of this conflict. They just read a few news headlines or unverified tweets and then jump on the bandwagon. That's a very big problem.
But from the few of us that always seek the truth, thank you very much for this educational conversation. It's really important to have videos like this.
Nobody cares too busy watching netflix😂
@@Jblah time to numb my brain with keeping up with the kardashians 🤦♂
i have to admire people who can watch that crap without feeling entirely intoxicated in a bad way 🤣🤣 @@drgregoryhaus
True so true if the masses took 1 hour to get the context from both sides the situation would probably be over and all those kids on both sides would be enjoying life why you would not want to know the facts in any situation I can't understand but people are quick to post some nonsense cause they saw it on Facebook or CNN
It's the unfortunate truth. Many other important issues also don't get much attention, such as Sudan and new Guinea too
The idea that Palestine was a desert is so patently absurd to anyone who knows anything about the region for the last 2000 years
As a Muslim, I learned a lot from your guest.
He is for me the Muslim as depicted in Quran. Even if doesn't believe in last God message.
In behalf of Palestinian children I would like to Thank you for you courage.
Thank you because you are the light of hope at an obscure horizons.
Very glad to hear Ilan's voice in these hard times.
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
, well said
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Yes. This is the video that made me an instant subscriber to The Majority Report. Thank you for re-posting. Very important interview.
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
@@okernist-gut223 ? The protocols were also a best seller in most of Europe at the time. I fail to see the "blending out", or the meaning of this for "the progressive nature of the left in America"
@@deliarebaudengo5440This person has left the exact same reply on half the comments on this video.
Welcome to the jungle!
Thank you, Ilan Pappe. Thank you, Sam, Emma, and TMR crew for having this interview.
Thanks so much for the talk. It’s enlightening to unpack a lot of the origins of the dire situation we are in. Ilan Pappe is an outstanding historian and human being.
Ilane and Sam, as an Egyptian American listening to you guys with tears in my eyes and a mix of emotions 😢
I have nothing but respect to your courage and moral clarity, you are setting humanity in motion.
my country took in half a million Ukrainian refugees. we are a nation of 10 million. Why can't Egypt, a nation of 109 million help Palestinian refugees?
@@oskarfabian5200why can't Israel give the Palestinians equal rights?
@@TeeTee-zm2re when Ukrainians needed help we took them in, we didn't ask why russians won't help.
@@oskarfabian5200 I bet you'll send them back to their homes when wars over. Jordan , Syria, Lebanon have millions of Palestinian refugees and they want to go home to Palestine but they can't because their country is occupied by Zionist Jews. Ukraine is occupied by Russia
Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt did that already in 1948 and not a single Refugee was able to return back to their home after the hostilities are over. so the Palestinian learnt their lesson and they rather die fighting for their home land than becoming refugees. By they way Egypt has over half million Syrian refugees since the war started over there despite their suffering economy so it is not a question of NOT HELPING!
What is happening is Ethnic Cleansing and that is what Israel wants to do, so Egypt does not want to facilitate that. Hope it makes sense to you now. @@oskarfabian5200
Sam please bring on Miko Peled. His grandfather signed the Declaration of Independence for Israel. His family literally created Israel and he is a very Pro Palestinian voice He himself served in the IDF and his father was a general, even wrote a book on it (The Generals Son).
Yes + also Breaking the Silence 👏 a group of ex-IDF dissenters
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
@@okernist-gut223the Arab leader was placed by great Britain! Just like how Iran's current leader is religious. Like do you not know the history of imperialism? Also many countries in Europe are at fault at for not stopping Hitler.
@@okernist-gut223did you know that Israel hired Nazis in 1949. You should Google since you really since you think Israel is an angel.
And bring Mosab Hassan Yousef a son of one of Hamas's founder, who says Hamas is a “barbaric” organization and Israel must do “whatever it takes” to defeat them. “This is war,” Hamas is NOT about Palestinian rights or statehood.
"There's something sick in the society ..." Lack of compassion for common humanity
Very sick. Blind delusion and justification to be monsters.
Another brilliant interview on Majority Report. Thanks Sam and Emma
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
Superb interview and discussion. Ilan Pappe a brilliant and moral person.
How does one survive such horrific crimes committed in WWII, turn around and do the same thing to others. 1948?! How😢
because they have good experience from the past
Because the others you are talking about wants to eliminate Jews as well.
These are Zionists that’s why. Speak to any other Joo, and you will see a lot of them don’t agree with these genocidal Israel.
These are the most extreme of evils you can have on earth , and they are murdering in plain sight . Free Palestine !!!
@@kaizokud42you confuse and perhaps knowingly conflate Judaism with Israel. Obviously you did not listen to anything Pape said in this video. It is the Israelis who have dedicated a concerted effort to erraticate and ethnically cleanse Palestine's territory going back to 1948 and still ongoing this very moment.
YOU support this and think you have some sort of reverse Uno card by trivializing this history as a conflict of religious religious zealotry against Islam in general. Funny that the secularist Palestinian movement was undermined and forced out of power with the support of Israel decades ago.
Just admit it and retain some semblance of honor and integrity by admitting that you prefer to cultivate a Palestinian population that has been brutalized and assualted so harshly that they turn to leadership that is fanatically religious and only committed to wage a jihad against their oppressors with virulence and hatred for the Jewish state of Israel.m
To them, "never again" has only selfish meaning, nothing reflexive of the plight of others.
This was excellent. Ilan Pappe is a nobel man. God bless him.
I sighed every time Sam is like “one more question” because he goes on and on before he asks, there’s a difference between putting things in context and making it about yourself, I shudder to think how much longer things will take if Norman Finkelstein is interviewed.
Hands down the best program on the issue - I am patting myself on the back for subscribing to Majority Report 8 years ago. Kudos
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
I appreciate how hard it is to have a calm and reasoned discussion about the history and context of the ongoing bloodshed occurring in Gaza and Israel. It is essential to offer reasoned counterpoints to the narratives being marketed to the world at large. This is a well-informed and thoughtful dialogue which I hope people will eventual come to have within Israel and beyond. It is the only true way to secure basic human rights and security for those living in Israel, Palestine and worldwide. Thanks Ilan Pappe and MajoRepo for doing this. 💔❤
Honoured to have met Illan twice. A humanitarian to the last.
One of the best clips I’ve seen explaining the situation in Gaza. Thank you for the clarifications. Sure wish the regular, well funded news media would have this man discuss what is going on. Apparently they don’t want the masses to know what’s up. He clearly has a lot of knowledge to share. Thank you.
Ilan Pappe is a modern hero, a free voice, a man of justice!
Thank you for this enlightened interview. Thank you Ilan Pappe. You give hope to humanity
Men like Peppe, Chomsky, Finkelstein & such are the hope for humanity for future generations.
On recent interview with the Israeli army spokesperson by wolf Blitzer , he ask him if the bombing of a refugee camp in Gaza was at least led to the killing of the 1 hamas leader!?
The Israeli army spokesperson said ( we can’t confirm)!!!!
After killing about 400 Palestinians refugees, they still not sure!!!!
Evidentemente que os israelitas sabiam lá se tinham morto esse comandante do Hamas, só o saberiam se tivessem o corpo dele.
A resposta deste porta voz do IDF, diz tudo.
Not true.
@@dbarcd.5913it is true
I watched that. Even Wolfe Blitzer who is a Zionist hack was shocked. He kept asking again in an attempt to clarify and the guy kept repeating himself. Absolute moron.
Ilan, you have truly passed the test of humanity in flying colors. It is really difficult to side with humanity against a vast majority of your own community, state, and off course the western powers supporting Israeli Government.
Pappe is so informative and awesome as always
You could always try reading a book.
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
Prof. Pappe, you are so admirable, a great example for humanity. Thanks to all of you for educating the public about the truth! God blesses! ❤❤❤
True analysis by Sir Ilan Pappe!Thank you for inviting him to speak to the channel
Netanyahu is very similar to what Bush was like in 2001 down to the cosplaying as a soldier
guy is living his power fantasies rn just an absolute psycho
Yes, and they're not just absolute psycho's they're legit war criminals.
Netanyahu has done everything possible to make the situation worse, not better.
It has been systematic. Not only Bush and Netanyahu, but rather most of the elite view towards indigenous peoples
@@mkadi70 It's not just a matter of "elite view", colonial mindset was a widely held view by all levels of society across the first world for most of our past from before the roman empire conquered the world through britain conquering the world to the US doing it. Colonial mindset is in our religion, the bible literally says to conquer all lands and subdue all living things to bring about the return of jesus.
netanyahu was literally a member of an elite special forces unit and was wounded serving his country. but ok
Fantastic, and educating discussion. Thank you so much for this. It is so important to inspire the younger generation with this type of honest, wise, and humanity-centric discourse. We owe it to our children to be be kind and responsible adults.
Such a treasure this man is. Thank you for all you do.
God bless you, the professor and the broadcasters. God willing, You will be rewarded In the day of judgement for your conscious opinion.
Thank you Dr. Pappe, brave man indeed. Hope that peace prevail.
Love and respect ❤
Thank you, Sam Seder & Emma Vigeland for bringing Iian Pappe back onto your show, Thank you, Iian Pappe.
Thank you, please interview Dr. Mate as well
Dr. Ilan Pappe is no joke.
Deep respect to Prof Pappe for his honesty and insight on the Palestinian question. Our fellow jewish friends are the best at debunking the Zionists ideology. Thank you on behalf of all the oppressed.
Thank you for providing such great context
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
Thank you I forgot the name of the protocols of the elder s of zion
Usually I am here for Emma, today I am here for Ilan.
Massive respect for giving the sensible a platform and a voice ❤
The hosts ask excellent questions. Very informative.
This professor is a great man and a great human being
Excellent, authoritative guest. ❤️
its so comforting to listen to honest , just and objective jews , may god bless you , especially prof pappe , i take my hat off to him as a muslim arab
Thank you for this conversation.
Very informative, learnt a lot. Thanks
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
You guys are really great journalists! Delving deep! Thank you!
26:25 interesting point, about the books and stuff. Because this also goes for the antisemitic inflammatory pamphlet "the protocols of the elders of zion" which by 1948 was a bestseller in the region - a situation which was possible because Adolf HItler and Haj Amin al-Husseini (the muslim spiritual leader in Jerusalem) were on quite good terms with each other when it came to the so called Jewish question.
Blending out this historical fact does not bode well for the progressive nature of the left in America
An important perspective to document - and I found myself hoping you'll do another interview with him soon to continue this conversation. Thank you, to you both, and to Professor Pappe.
Thank you for being the sound of reason and truth.
Ilan Pappe is among the most intelligent people on earth now. I love listening to him.
Ilan Pappe is a treasure!
He is in haifa where, I'm originally from and my grandparents were expelled from and my Syrian refugee ID says that till now , hope I can visit it but unfortunately we can't , nice interview and big respect for Ilan Pappe
In reading his book, the part about deportation of the Palestinians before the start of the war was one of many new things I’ve learned. I believe he also says the immigration issue into other Arab nations also was a big factor in the war and wasn’t just the UN declaration that we are told to believe. It’s an amazing read. BTW, mentioning his name or some others in respectful comments like this has at times deleted my comments and blocked me from posting for a day.
You being block, just indicate know who control the media.
Why are they so afraid of the truth
My first time to see this channel. How fortunate I watched on Take Your Daughter to Work Day! Dad even let her ask a couple cute questions. Great guest, too.
Top U.N. human rights lawyer Craig Mokhiber resigns November 1st, 2023
He says: “Textbook case of Genocide unfolding in the Gaza Strip”
In his words: “In Gaza, civilian homes, schools, churches, mosques, medical institutions, are wantonly attacked as thousands are massacred “
In the West Bank, including occupied Jerusalem homes are seized and reassigned based entirely on race, and violent settler pogroms are accompanied by Israeli military units.”
Across the land, Apartheid rules.”
What’s more, the governments of the United States, the United Kingdom and much of Europe are wholly complicit in this horrific assault
Not only are these governments refusing to meet their treaty obligations, to ensure respect for the Geneva Conventions, but they are actively arming the assault, providing economic and intelligence support, and giving political and diplomatic cover for Israel’s atrocities”
He says and knows fully well that Palestinians have suffered terrible persecution for decades in ‘Israel proper, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip
This is the same guy who claimed Ukraine ‘provoked’ Russia. Garbage opinion and anyone using him as an authority is a fool
Just watched his interview on Democracy Now, huge respect. He said the UN has 2 sets of rules in the halls 😢
Thank you for this interview ❤ It becomes more and more clear that the one state solution is the only option
Too late for 2 state.
There will be one state, and there will be no Arabs in it
Too late for 2 state.
But the Zionist DO NOT Want a 1 State Solution, as there are equal umbers of Jews and Palestinians. So this goes against the Zionist Jewish state Idea.
The only solution is to get rid of political Zionism, whixh without a doubt is a RACIST & APARTHEID State
History and Psychology are some of the most important tools in understanding best practices for human well-being and structuring societies
Hamas isn’t in the West Bank and they STILL treat the Palestinians as less than human.
Ilan is such a beautiful person great guest I’ve really learned so much from this interview thanks guys
Thanks for poating this, MR team, i will be watching and rewatching
Truely an eye-opening interview!
Very good! The interview clarified a lot for me coming to terms with my own experience and observations.
We need a Norman Finkelstein and Ilan Pappe interview/discussion. Make it happen sam 🙏
Great job, Majority Report!👏👏👏
God bless,respec,love
Thank you for a really insightful discussion! Definitely A MUST SEE on the context of our times biggest catastrophe
Learned so much hes such a nice educated guy
Hearing Ilan speak about Palestinian society pre-zionism sounds so unbelievably utopian (around 26:00). That multiple faiths were coexisting peacefully and collaboratively, is such a contradiction to what most of us in "the West" have been taught about the region all our lives. It fills me with such a deep sadness when observing the current state of Palestine when you realize what was robbed from them, but also gives me hope that this kind of coexistence is indeed a possibility.
Ioan Pappe..what an intelligent man.
thank you for the enlightening program
Ilan Pappe is an amazing truthful intelligent voice in the mess that is Palestine/Israel. Emma's short question was well articulated but Sam is tortuous to listen to and although only 15 minutes into this talk he hasn't given Emma any opening...........
Wow this episode is historic!
Most enlightening discussion
Very comprehensive discussion.
Outstanding interview.. fascinating...
Wow! Amazing interview.
What a fantastic interview!
Great interview
Very informative really! Thanks for this interview
Prof Pappé is a true great
2:19 maybe the Israeli people have had a chance to look over their shoulder and suddenly realize that others are aware of how their govt has been treating their brothers for 78 years, that its obvious, that theyre surrounded by people that have truly been tolerant, neighbors that gave them an inch, only to have Israeli govt caught red-handed, taking like 100,000.00 miles. I'd be a bit nervous, too.
Great content keep up the good work
Let’s clear this up right now. A handful of Puritans found themselves in the USA. They were a small aspect of a massive expansionist movement into Canada, USA and Mexico which rallied behind a g word of 90% of the Indigenous First Nations. Israel was exactly the same impetus by expansionism of England and the USA. The moral standards of the people who arrived in North America were various. Very few were back to the land Aristocracy looking for a new moral and philosophical home. The rest of the settlers were just glad to be alive.
And the genocide of the First Nations continues until the United States give establishes economic and philosophical Reconciliation .
USA's Native Americans don't even have a sizable and substantial presence in the House of Reps whereas Canada's First Nations have local and national political presence. The Puritans named states patterned on Native American place names, gave the natives some casinos to run and then forgot them conveniently.
Great interview.
❤thank you! Finally!
Thoroughly great interview with a man the speaks truthfully. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Great guest
I’m a Syrian refugee and living now in Europe, I just can’t fathom why the Israeli government wouldn’t live peacefully both with the Palestinians and its neighbours. The Israeli policies which is oppressing the Palestinians depriving them their right and a state, mobbing around and destabilising the region by supporting dictators in the region in order to get the dictator to sign peace treaties again by force and brutality and supporting dictators around itself such in Syria, Egypt and Lebanon. Why can’t Israel just respect the Palestinians right and just live peacefully between us all!?
I guess It has to do with the warfare which has built the Israeli economy. Expanding and taking land, then developing weapon and exporting it, then take on some minor attack “comparing to what the IDF DO” then retaliate by expanding and so on and so on..
great show!
I wonder how many people have died so far for the 'Bible' and all the land god wants for evangelical Christians--there won't be many people left when their god is done but I guess that's what they're going for--I just can't figure out which Jesus they're killing for as we have over 30,000 sects to choose from and they all disagree on really basic points, like dancing in a bar deserves eternal hellfire as punishment--not all Christians agree on that. So...?
Thank you Sam , you have courage and will be remembered by future historians as being on the right side of history . Not going with the crowd or “popular” opinion . You give me hope 🙏🙏🏽🇵🇸🇺🇸🫡✊
Thank you!
If returning to one's religious origins geographically is such a great idea, I wish the Christians in the US God's speed as they return to Israel. After all, Jesus was a Jew who was born in Bethlehem. I'm sure the Jewish population will welcome them with open arms and grant them land and rights.
AMEN SISTER! I expect a rich jacob descendant to give me their completely furnished home......and car.
Fyi, they despise chridtoans and want them eliminated from the land as idol worshippers. Death sentence for practicing the religion because its idol worship due to the trinity doctrine. Today they have plans on rejecting the Christians from Israel. Muslims on the other hand are tolerable because they worship the one true God.