Martial Arts Odyssey: Monkey Master Part 1

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  • Опубліковано 29 січ 2009
  • Brooklyn Monk Antonio Graceffo takes us to Tainan, Taiwan where he learns San Da, Chinese kickboxing, from Sifu Hisham, a master of monkey Kung Fu, who combines traditional martial arts with modern MMA and kickboxing. (Location: Tainan, Taiwan)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 137

  • @089hlj
    @089hlj 11 років тому +8

    -This guy's Kung-fu is at a very high level.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  11 років тому +8

    At the time I filmed this he was, I assumed, way out of my league for sparring. Now, with a few years of MMA under my belt, if I went back, i would like to spar or at least wrestle with him. but truly, his body is a piece of stone. i can't imagine punching him, even in the belly, it would break my hand. maybe just grappling would be OK.

    • @monsterzoom5929
      @monsterzoom5929 5 років тому

      Sifu Jiang is a rare gem, his fist is also hard like steel.

    • @salcanzonieri
      @salcanzonieri 4 роки тому +3

      @Whammer79 And he said he learned a lot from this and changed his methods and as a result he never lost a fight after that, which he did many more. I think the best fighters are the ones that have learned from their mistakes.

    • @belzebul
      @belzebul 2 роки тому +1

      @Whammer79
      Noone is unbeatable. Just because one gets KO-d in one professional(!) athletic match ONCE, it does not mean he is a shitty fighter...
      Just because McGregor lost once to Khabib, does not mean he can not fight at all, and could not beat 99 other men in a fight

  • @1888swordsman
    @1888swordsman 9 років тому

    beautiful, pure and practical. Love it :)

  • @BioVitus
    @BioVitus 14 років тому

    does anyone know the name of the song and performer that goes in the background. ich ni san shi is heard...

  • @MechPhantom
    @MechPhantom 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 continued sir. Jus asking how hard is the training there do u mean? like what they train that makes it tough? is it the acrobatics training , horse stance or what? just being curious, hope you can explain more of their training so i can have a rough idea of it =) thank you very cu

  • @DjRodimusPrimeXyZ
    @DjRodimusPrimeXyZ 13 років тому +1

    can you visiit the monkey master again, does he have a website or a youtube channel, or facebook fan page. Id like to see more monkey kung fu, and other styles of kung fu as well this is one of my fav videos, which is hard, because i like all the videos all the same. keep up the good work, lastly I really enjoyed the last videos on Silat, will you be u/ling some more, maybe on Harimua Silat. thanks again.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa If you are asking about san schau (san da) then yes, we practiced it when I lived in the temple and a lot of the guys who do muay thai in Taiwan are actually san schau guys.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @DjRodimusPrimeXyZ I am in Taiwan right now, but not sure if I will train with Hisham.

  • @wonphi
    @wonphi 14 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1
    no I am not in Taiwan right now, but I love traveling during the Summer holidays, Taiwan is definitely a place I would love to go.
    cheers!

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  14 років тому

    @BioVitus the song is called ninja, inchinese, "ren he" by jau chow, chinese "cho jay ren"

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa No, I'm not doing the leg work. If you want me to cover this art, tell me the name and location of the school in China where you trained.

  • @jjjaaaccckkk
    @jjjaaaccckkk 11 років тому

    This guy seems to know his stuff, always cool to see TMA being applied properly. Did you get a chance to spar with him or grapple? If so what were your thoughts?

  • @MechPhantom
    @MechPhantom 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 brooklynmonk1 cool story, btw sir how well can those san da guys from the school fight? are they good,very good or exceptiioally good? too are they fast when they strike? man ur badass ! defeating all shaolin monks , nothing but respect to you man!

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa Yes, I know what san da and san schau are, as I pointed out, I live in China. San Soo? I haven't heard of San Soo. Do you have contact info for a master or a school? I could do a show on it.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  15 років тому +1

    Thanks for watching the videos and for reading my books. Yes, Hisam is Muslim. i hope we can show the world the positive mix of Buddhist, Catholic and Muslim

  • @MechPhantom
    @MechPhantom 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 so ur trying to say that MT guys will beat shaolin fighters badly is it? and btw u say u have been to shaolin, cool si, just asking do they fight good? and is the training there tough? thank you very much =)

  • @anahataug
    @anahataug 8 місяців тому

    how old he was on this video?

    • @brooklynmonk1
      @brooklynmonk1  8 місяців тому

      I was about 41, but I cannot remember if Hisham is a bit younger than me.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 By san soo i meant san soo not san da san shou are chinesse kickboxing.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  14 років тому

    @SoundwaveSuperior373 This video, it is nearly two years old, so anything I told you a few months ago would be more recent. However, I don’t think I said in this video that kung fu can fight.

  • @hunggarguy
    @hunggarguy 14 років тому

    empty your cup and drink only Chinese tea.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa Here is the quote about san soo "Master Lee's Kung Fu San Soo is located on 6th St. in the Stater Bros. shopping center. Master Lee's Kung Fu San Soo" I checked about five websites and they all seemed to have copied and recopied the same source, telling about a san soo master killing a Japanese regimental karate champion. but there was no source, the first source seems to have been the master's website.

  • @wonphi
    @wonphi 14 років тому

    funny thing is that unlike what the description says, this monkey master did not combine traditional MA with modern MMA and kickboxing.
    What he does is purely traditional chinese martial arts. Plain and simple.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa One more question, Tsoi Li Ho Fut Hung? What is that? And why did you even bring that into our conversation? It would seem your implying that I some how supported this Tsoi Li Ho Hung and you are somehow knocking it down. But since I don't know what that is, and have never heard of it, i couldn't possibly be arguing in favor of it.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @DjRodimusPrimeXyZ I don't practice Harimau Silat, only Silat Kalam and Silat Tomoi

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brookylnmonk1 Nothing but the life / energy you give to it. We have difference's in opinion. We are free to believe as we wish don't put other people down and expect not to get put down in return.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @OrientalStyle47 It's pretty simple, actually. Hisham is Syrian, but he comes from Germany. I am Italian, but did four years of university study in Germany, so I wind up with German friends.

  • @hotpopcorncake
    @hotpopcorncake 15 років тому

    thats was interesting

  • @PeculiarPotato
    @PeculiarPotato 11 років тому

    Fun-fun

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa Not sure who you think you;re talking to, but I studied at Shaolin Temple in China. You can read my book, The Monk from Brooklyn, which is basically my diary from when I was in the temple. Other than that,. I have spent nearly three years in ROC and PROC. In fact I am writing from Taiwan right now. I've studied tai chi over here and about a million other martial arts. Not sure what you think your telling me that is new to me. where did you study in China?

  • @lmoreir1
    @lmoreir1 12 років тому

    does Sifu Hisham have a website

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa I just looked up San Soo. It is an art invented by and taught by a single instructor in a shopping center in California in 1965. I have nothing against any martial art. and if people practice it and makes them happy and healthy, that is great. But if the art doesnt exist in China. if it has no written history, before the dojo was opened in the shopping center, then it is not something that I would ever incorporate in my show or my books or articles.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa I thought out all of my responses before I wrote them. That should be clear from how well worded they are, and how much they reflect an intellectual approach, including research and logic.

  • @MDIS
    @MDIS 15 років тому

    Quote:
    Celebrate Our Differences.
    Rejoice in Our Similarities.
    We are all different yet we bled the same blood , the same anatomy and we even have the similarities such as cusines , system of combat and lifestyle.
    Master Hisham is well known in Taiwan and he is a very special master with great techniques.
    And yes , brother , he is a muslim.
    And he's teaching Chinese Martial Art?
    That is nothing new brother.
    There are lots of Chinese Martial Art Masters in U.S.A who are muslims

  • @Cypeq
    @Cypeq 13 років тому

    lol

  • @Gieszkanne
    @Gieszkanne 14 років тому

    Hisham has a german accent and has a German flag in his Dojo in Taiwan. Strange.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @lococavasa To defend oneself. One studies the martial arts to learn self defense among many other things. The arts of war were created for survival

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  14 років тому

    actually the monkey master combines modern kick boxing and grappling with chinse martial art. i lived and trained there for a year. i am fairly certain on this point.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa the secret family art that no one knows about, except a dead master, is the oldest swindle in martial arts. Bullshido recently ran an article on how to make your self into a fake master and that was one of the first lessons. You say that you learned the art from a secret master, who is not in any history books or newspapers and who is now dead, so the story can't be verified. if you invent yoru own art, it can't be compared to anything. So, you win.

  • @OrientalStyle47
    @OrientalStyle47 13 років тому

    why is there a brd (germany) flag in the background?
    master hisham looks also not much chinese:) ( its persian name i know)
    very confusing

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Not to mention this is youtube and a free forum at that were people are entitled to voice there opinions i can share anything i want. The purpose of having a forum is to share idea's not to insult others just to try and prove that somehow your more inclined because in this case your not you know nothing about me are what i know are can do and again i was just painting the picture but obviously your too head tripped to take things in without getting heated.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa So what exactly was your suggestion then? I live in Asia. I train in Asia. I have a show about living and training in Asia. How exactly does your suggestion fit this format? Also, your telling me this Chinese art doesnt exist in China. So, I would be inclined to believe it simply doesn't exist. Are you recommending I go buy a plane ticket, fly back to the States and seek out a trainer because you made a spelling error?

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa once again, about wikipedia, I absolutely do not believe the information on the san soo entry of wikipedia. I think i made that clear. What I do believe, is when the wikipedia administration says that the entry is not believable because it is not supported by any historical documents or references. So, yes, I do believe wikipedia administration. Or, are you maintaining that the article actually is supported by documentation?

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 As far as invasion i already mentioned i was not speaking of war but the act of the challenge from the regional karate champion. My tone is not anger just more are less upset maybe you don't hear how you come across but when you start talking about an art then in reference tell the person who has actually studied the art that they have a grammatical error in there thinking your going to have a dispute and problems well arise from it.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa Apprently you do care, or you would have given up. There is no historical record of san soo, before 1965 when "Jimmy H. Woo, Chin Siu Dek opened his own studio in El Monte, California to teach his family art in about 1962.[1]" If this was a real art, why is there no record in China? And, why was the first school in USA not opened until more than twenty years after he went to America?

  • @MechPhantom
    @MechPhantom 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 continued im not sure but ppl say that sanda guys keep winning MT guys why is it so ? T_T

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1Google phillips school of kung fu san soo there a good directory there it should point you in the right direction.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brookylnmonk1 This all started as the result of you suggesting that my grammar was incorrect for suggesting an art that you can't find. I wasn't even referring for you to do a show on it actually i only asked if you know about it because i think it is a good art and wanted to share it with you. You bare your own fruits and harbor you can't take on someone else pain/suffering and knowledge. Don't try to correct me on something you cant even comprehend you have to lead your own life.

  • @W4EAN
    @W4EAN 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 so u're saying that traditional kung fu guys can't fight ??? or only can't fight in competition where their are rules??
    how do u think a traditional kung fu guy will do in a street fight... even against people that train in muay thai and other martial arts ???

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  14 років тому

    @Gieszkanne Yeah, that is weird, especially since Antonio is Chinese. I wonder if this video suggests that they allow foreigners to visit and even work in Taiwan? Maybe that's just to far-fetched though. I am sure there is just some mistake here. Who ever heard of people moving from one country to another?

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa Please respond with specific answers: 1. what lies did I tell? 2. On what scale of measure would you estimate that i am uneducated? 3. Why do you have so many grammatical errors in your posts, and misspelled your name? 4. Why did you suggest I go find a martial art that doesn't exist and which you have never studied? Let's start with answers to those questions. If you believe you bring some value to the world, then let your mission start by having pity on me and educating me.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa If you google the word san soo, and check the top five results, they all are drawn from the exact same source. Here is what it says on the wikipedia page "suggests there is no verification and authoritative source of info. Its neutrality is disputed. It may contain original research or unverifiable claims.
    Its tone or style may not follow a formal encyclopedic form. It may contain improper references to self-published sources."

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  14 років тому +1

    @SoundwaveSuperior373 In this video, and in the accompanying magazine articles, I focus specifically on Master Hisham and his blend of traditional Kung Fu with his traditional Syrian wrestling with modern MMA and San Da. And yes, that combination can fight. But a normal Kung Fu guy doesn't stand a chance in any professional fighting venue anywhere.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  14 років тому

    @7Matahari7 Tayari Casel is a great fighter, but, as far as I know, he never trained at the Shaolin temple. So, even if he were the undisputed fighting master of the universe, it wouldn't prove that shaolin monks can win in professional fighting.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 WoW sounds like i hit a nerve are something. What i was referring to has nothing to do with your experience's. I was generalizing. Painting the picture of what i feel to be good & agree to as to the studies of shaolin kung fu lacking the effectiveness of mma. I believe some eternal styles to be basic and core for groundwork & can help pave the way for mma but not sport mma. I was sharing the styles that i like. Have you ever seen/experienced san soo?

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Ok so you have done some research also it says on the Wikipedia site that Kung Fu San Soo itself was chosen by Woo to simplify the pronunciation and meaning for American students. You keep asking about the name there is your answer. As far as schools go it was Chin Siu Dek (Jimmy H. Woo) who was responsible for its emergence here to america and i already told you im not Mexican and cavasa doesn't mean anything other than the life/energy you give it.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa yuo see? You just said "In there tongue." that is wrong. It should be "in their tongue."

  • @SoundwaveSuperior373
    @SoundwaveSuperior373 14 років тому

    i dun get ur logic here a couple of months ago u said to me kung fu cant fight and now ur saying kung fu can fight just wat do u have on ur mind neways

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 And i don't think that wikipedia has all the answers although it a good resource it doesn't have all the answers if you really went technical you could talk to jimmy but that wouldn't be possible today because he is dead.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa I absolutely can comprehend and correct your grammar. That is fact and not opinion As for this art, this is, I believe, the eighth time I am asking, show me a written record which predates 1965.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @boogeyman712 I trained at shaolin Temple and wrote a book, The Monk from Brooklyn, about my experience. It is tough training there. but other than the san da team NO ONE learns ANY fighting at all. and even just with my boxing skills i was able to beat all nearly all of the students fighting. if you add MMA, ground fight, they would stand NO CHANCE at all. there is NO ground fighting at Shaolin. There are some san da schools, and those guys fight well.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 This action lead to the near disappearance of the art. This happened because the regional karate champion was defeated in a death match. This was to be a public display of the power of the Japanese conquerors. Had it not been for Chin Siu Dek the emergence of Tsoi Li Ho Fut Hung would not exist today as a testimony for the people and it ferocious power. Tsoi Li Ho Fut Hung is san soo here in america we call it San Soo not tsoi Li Hung. But in mainland china it was known as.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa The Japanese invaded China in 1937, The Second Sino-Japanese War. Perhaps you should do some research.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @ brooklynmonk1 The only thing of respect i have heard from you was thanks for following my vids. It would be nice if you had the same respect given to what you know as other people. Don't expect to get respect for bashing on me. This is not your place are time.

  • @wonphi
    @wonphi 14 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1
    well I might not know. I plan to visit him some time to check this all out.
    What I was saying was that everything shown in the video, from conditioning, to training, to techniques, medicine and etc. That's all traditional MA training. What this master does outside of the video, I am unaware, but what it shown in the video is all traditional MA from my knowledge and training experience.
    Interesting videos you have. Keep it up.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @boogeyman712 It is not tue that you do chores before being taught. the kung fu monks are either directly appointed, or at the least, approved by the Beijing government. They are a huge source of revenue for the government. and they must teach anyone who pays money. There is no testing, except for the fact that training is long and brutal and never ending. None of the monks could possibly beat an MMA fighter.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Tsoi Li Ho Fut Hung is San Soo kung fu. That is the Chinese way of pronouncing it. You say you did the research? Well then be honest about it. It was not invented in some shopping center as you suggest. Lie's you ask? What are the lie's for one were did you get off telling me i was making a grammatic error when i first began telling you about this art. That i was wrong for saying it was Chinese. I was wrong for even suggesting it.

  • @OrientalStyle47
    @OrientalStyle47 13 років тому

    why is there a brd (germany) flag in the background?
    master hisham looks also not much chinese:) ( its persian name i know)
    very confusing
    i know hisham is from germany because he said: zack,.. ja,.. ja komm:D iam f sherlock!!

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa I may be a fool, but i spelled my screen name right. You can't even spell your own name lococavasa means nothing. As for education, I have a post graduate degree from Trinity College, University of London. i did four years of applied linguistics studies and research at University of Mainz, Germersheim, Germany, and have been in school full time for about half of the 10 years I have been in Asia. I speak 9 languages. I think I qualified as educated.

  • @W4EAN
    @W4EAN 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 wow u certainly have not meet traditional kung fu master other than the shaolin dudes that u are talking about. if kung fu doesn't work how come it survived that long plus am not saying that kung fu are better than others but i believe they deserve credit.

  • @W4EAN
    @W4EAN 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 . nb: whe i say kung fu i mean systems like this watch?v=A8jNiuzqb-k

  • @MechPhantom
    @MechPhantom 13 років тому

    @boogeyman712 hmm last time i checked shaolin mnoks are just performers and mostly couldnt fight unless the ones in sanda team , which uses sanda to fight, others(mostly) cant fight. So i guees u nees to go to the temple itself to know whether they can fight or not like brooklynmonk, he knows best coz hes beens there so best is to listen to him. Dont believe what others say ,coz its just what they think and heard or seen from TV which are all not true.

    • @joelhusbands3838
      @joelhusbands3838 6 років тому

      Shaolin is and has always been about Chan Bhuddism fighting Is one small part of what they do. Today they are runned by the state and things like performances for tourist are common. it is not an MMA school. these two forms of fighting are different from each other. people often play the better than game but totally miss the different from. Today combat sports are more popular than ever but it makes no sense imo to compare them to older more traditional systems of fighting which came about in a different time for a completely different purpose. if an Olympic fencer beats a trained boxer in a fencing match does this make boxing useless? I don't think it does. I think every system has its strengths and weaknesses, shaolin have useful aside from tough conditioning, certain styles of shaolin have useful training in seizing the joints and tendons which may be of no use in a competition but maybe could help you in a total random confrontation, not too different from techniques learned by the police and some security gaurds ... there are many different things that can be learned in many different places. the name mixed martial arts denotes something which is opened to new things and mixes things up creating something new , yet a lot of practitioners and enthusiasts seem to be close minded and ready to deride anything outside of what they think should be the mma standard as unfunctional

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 And i am not making any judgement about the arts you do and practice and demanding verification of them. I know there real ive seen your vids and i also know san soo is real aside from the note lets just keep it simple and up sept what were told without all the criticism i was not lying to you so i am not making it all up. The only way anyone finds answers for themselves is to look inside themselves for the answers and sometime you got to do a little leg work yourself.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 All i can tell you is what i know/understand you should be worrying more about yourself & what you can do not about what others do. I don't care rather are not you study the art i only care that you don't try and tell me i am wrong are uneducated because i understand things you do not. It seem's like you really have a very dominate personality like you want to be in control of everything that is said. I like to share thing's but i don't accept correction when it isn't needed.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa Actually this is both my space and my time. This is my channel, and I've allowed you to take a lot of my time. Respect isn't something you ask for. You earn it, by knowing what you are talking about and being good at what you do. You have only demonstrated to me that you can't write and that you follow a martial art with no recorded history. Beyond that, you seem to lack logic. You haven't addressed my many requests to produce any written record of your art. Why would I respect you?

  • @munirmukri2872
    @munirmukri2872 3 роки тому

    Sifu ,👺🈂️🌐🈳🥋🎀❤️💛💚🉑🇹🇿☮️👋😂🌐💟🧿🏮🆗🗣️🦸💮🌍🕸️🥢⛩️🕋🕍 my good friend viking sifu tell him be happy for koran is krom.❤️💛💚سالامتك

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa "keep it simple and up sept what were told" that should be "accept what we were told.": And I absolutely do not accept what I am told. I do research. So, my books often differ from what the master told me, if I find that he was repeating hearsay, rather than fact. I don't believe you are lying to me. I believe you are a bit simple and you were taken in. It's not your fault.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 & i am not using it to talk to Mexicans. i have very poor Spanish i couldn't even hold a conversation with a Mexican in there tongue let alone spell all the words i know correctly. I would need a good teacher to teach me if i wanted to do that.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  14 років тому

    @7Matahari7 As rule no, shaolin guys dont do well in professional fighting. I lived at Shaolin and sparred with a lot of guys during my months there and they were not nearly on par with Thailand, not even close. The proof of course would be to see how many Lumpini champions, K-1 Max, or pro champions came from Shaolin. The answer is very close to zero.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa A war has never been fought between China and Japan because of martial arts. In 1931 there was a short, skirmish fought between Japan and China. But you said Japan inveaded China. That happened in 1937. I am not a liar. you are just extremely uneducated. many books have been written about WWII. You should read one.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 You said it was invented in a shopping center were is your proof to that? You also say i studied with a dead master WoW no i studied with a master as there are many san soo masters but never did i studie with woo. That would not be possible. In fact what we are suggested is that woo brought it to america. There are many family arts. Especially in china i don't question these things myself as much as what i am taught and rather are not it works.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa I have proven you wrong several times already. I checked. There are no records of your art before 1965. I have also made that point several times, and challenged you to produce some written record of your art. But, you have ignored my requests. That doesn't make me a liar. Tell me the truth, what level of education did you complete? Also, what is your mother tongue?

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa Please stop referencing the wikipedia article as evidence. Wikipedia doesnt believe the article, so either do i. I have asked you for any independent evidence or history and you have failed to produce any.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 And the list could go on and on. Im sure being a martial artist you can see that many of the arts are lost when the founders take the knowledge with them to the grave and many more are made up especially in china there are thousands of kung fu styles i mean a ton a lot and no one has brain enough to put it all together sadly a lot of the Chinese arts are losing way do to wushu a dance.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 As a martial artist why would you even begin by bashing on someone else you know nothing about are the art they speak of ?And even know you make points of view not to share your knowledge but to disprove another person i have no time for you. Your a fool for even bringing your spite into the conversation. Try this talk to other people with respect. There are ways of saying what you feel without putting other people down and as far as the screen name goes it means absolutely

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Also there are a lot of martial arts who's history is shrouded in mystery A example bokator did it influence the Thais Are the Thais influence the people of Kramer? Krav maga ive read articles quoting that it was not a isreal martial art in fact it was made up by it's founder. If we go back to India the mother of martial arts some say they brought martial arts to Asia and credit for the creation of shaolin kung fu in the temples i say b.s. Hwa rang do people question it.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 How about this think about what you say b4 you say it that way you will not assume anything in the way you would like it to be but actually speak of things in the way they are. Basic concepts that most of us don't even have to think twice about but some1 always talking shit somewere to spread there ego.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa You see, there is an error. It's not proper-gating. that word doesn't exist. it's propagating. Don't you have spell check on your computer? you yourself told me that there are no masters and no schools in China. So, I believe it was invented when the master went to America. But regardless of what i believe, you will need to find an independent record of the existence of the art.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    Did i spell san shou san soo.?No those are all togther differn't martial arts. Not that i have a problem with anyone nor what people use but why can't people share thoughts without all the uninformed remarks? Go look up san soo kung fu are just tell me it doesn't exsist that's fine with me your just acknowledging your own ignorance you don't know about san soo if you haven't heard of it.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brookylnmonk1 As i are anyone else in this world can not do it for you.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa i do speak Spanish and English well. What do you mean by this? Your name is not a grammatical error. you seem ty not understand the difference between grammar and spelling. As I pointed out earlier, your name is a spelling error. Your posts, in English, are riddled with grammar issues.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Well then i don't know how your going to find a school. I never said i trained in china that's an assumption. In fact ive never been to china land and your not going to find a san soo kung fu school in china. As there are no teachers of that art in china.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Then you say that the school is inside a shopping center but lee is not credited with bringing it to america therefore it is not possible that lee invented it.The first recognized san soo school was brought to america by the master jimmy h woo. I suppose the woo is a liar isn't Chinese doesn't have a family art. WtF could i tell you that aside from the fact that we have are differences that this art is anymore real are fake then any other art? Nothing.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Could you tell me were this site is you claim? What about the instructors name? If not ill be forced to believe that your proper-gating more lies to try to disprove an art you obviously don't understand i can tell you that it was not invented in a shopping mall and in fact is a very old MA.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 For future referance don't talk shit about arts you haven't practiced are experience and don't baddger other people about there spelling if i wanted to be corrected i wouldn't be sitting in front of a computer typing up my thoughts id go to a teacher.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Your a critic a hard critic at that. Your commit about my grammatic error when i first told you that there are no schools in china was not even needed. How in the hell am i making a grammatic error in the first place i never even suggested you go outside of Asia in fact i was sharing a art i value. You don't have the same feeling's as me on the martial arts so why am i still wasting my time trying to tell you about an art that you want to discredit?

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Had you just asked about the art without the side comments i would have no problem and really what reliance does it give either one of us? The only person i would want to make sure i am speaking there language correct to is the person who actually speaks that language obviously you do not. I could care less about such matters & my name would only need to be corrected if i was speaking it to a mexican because it would be poor grammar but again it's not correct.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa You say I don't know you. I know you. You said you have never trained in China. You don't know the name or location of the master practicing this alleged martial art you made up. You made a suggestion to me which would be detrimental to my career if I accepted it and which makes no sense given the nature of my show. I also know you have a lot of grammar errors in your posts.

  • @lococavasa
    @lococavasa 13 років тому

    @brooklynmonk1 Well what thye teach at shaolin isnt exsactly real gung fu it is a preformance dance wushu. If you wan't good kung fu look into tai chi taijiquan xingyiquan i think people mistake these arts as being none practicle but there are many useful techniques that & chinesse wrestling chin na all can be very good. Sad but true alot of the quote on quote shaolin shit they sell is CRAP. I agree 100 percent. Also see san soo choy lee fut eagle claw etc etc. Find your own style.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa The reason I said your art never existed before 1965 is because it didn't. You have yet to produce a single historical record of this art. Once again, I LIVE IN CHINA. This art is unknown in China and the only written records of it are produced by modern participants of it. Clearly, it was invented in America, in recent times. Don't even speak to this again, unless you have some evidence.

  • @brooklynmonk1
    @brooklynmonk1  13 років тому

    @lococavasa It's not "commit" it's "comment"> Do they just not have schools where you live? You still don't seem to know what grammar is. Grammar means the rules of writing the English language. And you write it like a slow fourth grader. To answer your other question, I also have no idea why you are wasting you time on me. But, since I am over here in China, actually training and exploring, and you aren't and never have been, it is strange that you think I'm not a real martial artist.