FF7R - EASY WAY to defeat THREE-PERSON TEAM VS TOP SECRETS
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- All explained in the vid with commentary, this is my BEGINNER'S GUIDE in Final Fantasy 7 Remake on how to defeat the Chapter 17 Shinra Combat Simulator Three-Person Team VS Top Secrets on HARD mode easily!
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You've clearly helped a lot of people with your FFVII guides, they are well done and accessible. I personally did not want to bother learning the game again to beat the 'Pride and Joy' combat simulator. Your set-up and stagger sequences are not only easy to understand, they helped me quickly re-learn this battle system after three years of not touching the game. Well done!
looks like you stole my comment man... This channel is the only reason that I believe that I can beat the HARD mode .. 😊
Thank you for the extra support. Are you a new member as I need to get you added to the intro/outtro if so.?
@@Optinooby yeah I'm a new one here :) Your tips help me a lot so I wanted to support you in some way... :)
Finally cleared it! Thank you so much! I'd tried several other "easy" guides and never could make it past Bahamut. This one was a close call (kept missing my arcane ward just long enough for Bahamut to escape from stun lock), and then didn't manage to stay behind P & J with Tifa for that first beam cannon, but fortunately the Thundara on the leg strategy can be adapted for just Cloud and Aerith if you're quick enough on the trigger.
Dude thank you so much for this. I’ve been struggling to clear these last two hard mode challenges, and your videos helped me tremendously. You’re a legend!
Holy shit. Your guide got me through this on my FIRST try! I'm not even very good, and hard mode has been a huge headache for me and I really didn't think I could do this. I thought I would be practicing/dying/repeat until I finally got it..or gave up; but once I beat Leviathan I started thinking I had a chance. Bahamut summoned Ifrit just as I was getting off my last focused strike/combo to take Bahamut down. Luckily, knowing I'm not very good, knew that would probably happen and put elemental + fire in my armor (as you suggested) and the Ifrit fight gave me back quite a bit of HP back as a result :). Oddly, the hardest part for me is switching to control the character I intend to control. Tip for noobs, since timing is very important in these fights, as soon as I got another team member ATB while using Tifa - I paused the game and thought out which D-pad direction (L or R?) I'd have to push to get to the intended character - otherwise I usually fumble about and lose really important time. I paused the game and this guide quite often to make sure I understood the next step and the next, etc. I really can't thank you enough. You deserve more likes/subscribes for sure.
It took me over a day, but I finally did it!
I honestly don’t think I would have ever gotten past Bahamut without your help and I breezed Pride & Joy - Thank you so much do the step by step. Awesome video 👍
Amazing guide!! After couple tries, I was able to breeze through the whole challenge. Thank you so much and what an amazing game. Just shows how deep the gameplay is. This is the greatest game of all time and can't wait for Rebirth!! ❤
Thank you very much for this video.
Got to chapter 17 hard mode on my own, but didn't get past the last arsenal boss.
Decided to go for götterdämmerung but couldn't get past this challenge.
Following your vid on a separate screen, I made it first try.
Thank you so much for your contribution to the community.
Respect!
Another outstanding video! One thing that can't be undersold is the importance of the fury rings. I tried this challenge with and without fury rings (to compare) and it makes a huge difference on the amount of damage dealt and how quickly you stagger enemies.
Best accessory after Gotterdammerung, think Fury Ring gives like 33% more damage to all types (Mag+Str), improves dmg taken too, but if u have a plan, that's not a big problem
Huge thanks for the guides, they've been so helpful, I've used a guide for this and almost every boss except the early game ones 👍 didnt quite beat bahamut before ifrit was summoned but because of the fire-elemental armor it was a cake walk, it actually just helped me heal up before the P&J 😂
Your guides have been helping me so much as I go for the platinum trophy before Rebirth comes out! It took me 5 attempts but I was finally able to beat this challenge today!
THANK YOU! This guide worked for me perfectly and I hope it will get more views. I tried other more popular ones, but actually I was able to beat it with yours! Thanks again!
Just wanted to say a massive thanks! I looked at quite a few guides and this strategy was perfect. Did it second try.
Finally a real strategy! Most videos only alude to having a strategy but they only show edited clips and yours shows in detail the specific movements. Awesome video!
I have another version of this mate which is a lot cleaner, if you enjoy this one, will likely enjoy that 1 even more
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Saw this last night. Today I tried twice then watched again and took notes, then succeeded on my next attempt. 2 years ago when the game first came out I was unable to complete this challenge in spite of great effort. Thank you for the guide!
I usually never subscribe to people but after following your guides, I was able to finally platinum FF7 Remake. Thank you for your easy to understand guides. I have subscribed to your channel and I will be using you for other games as well.
Appreciate that, welcome to the channel 🙂
Oh my god I've finally done it after using your guide! 😁 I used a mix of this one and your other minimal build one. Leviathan I spent ages on, but was able to sail through bahamut and pride and joy first go with this guide 😁
Thank you!!
Thanks to your guided with hardmode I finally after long last beat the game that final chapter I was struggling with,I'm so glad you mentioned that ither guides don't always work as I found that out when I tried following guides how to beat this one qnd at shiva and leviathan they don't always go in the direction or do the same things other guides claim they should do ,Thank you again for down to earth clear concise info a lot of us were lacking that and with rebirth around the corner I'm sure you will set us all straight with that also
Thank you so much. I've been looking all over for a guide to help with this battle and none of them got me further than Leviathan in less than like 10 minutes. I never would have figured out how to beat Bahamut without this. Again, thank you. This helped so much.
Earned my sub and like. Video is straight forward and to the point, while providing a winning strategy. Good job.
Dude, thank you so much. I watched alot of guides and yours was the best one. Followed it every step and beat him on the first try using your guide. Followed the other guides and couldnt get past Bahamut. Thank you!
Oh my goodness I've been struggling on this for ages. Your guide beats the heck out of every other one I've seen. Thank you so much! Just need to clear the last two chapters on hard and the platinum will now be mine!
I have another version of this which is a cleaner method with slight variations btw, and if you need any easy guides for future hard boss fights, you should find them all here!
Though the Jenova Dreamweaver boss is only boss where the fight is kinda messy, I just couldnt figure out a clean strategy for that one, so its a case of healing and using certain attacks
@@Optinooby Good to know. I'll have yo check them out if I get stuck somewhere.
@@Optinooby And I just got my platinum! Seriously, your videos made those last two chapters so much easier than I expected. Hell, it was probably easier than my initial playthrough on normal. Thank you so much!
Finally! With your guide I was able to do it! Your strategy with bahamut was SO much easier to follow than other guides that for some reason wanted to stagger bahamut. THANK YOU
Thank you so much for this video. I was able to finish this whole fight in about an hour once I learned all the patterns for each enemy. The platinum is actually looking obtainable for me. Here we go with hard mode. Got you saved and subbed for hard mode bot fights!!
Omg bro thank you so so much, this was the last thing I needed to do.
I watched other guides but no help! I watched your video and bet it first go!!!!!! Yooooo!!!!!
I like how chill you were with your explanations, I just followed what you did :)
Platinum baby! Thanks dude 👍
This was an absolutely incredible breakdown. Easy to follow steps. also... ATB assist is insane, how have i not used this like at all before.
I tried following a "normal" guide for these fights but holy hell speedrunning them with tifa is the way to do it. incredibly easier (i know it probably wasnt easy coming up with the strat, but you laid it out so well it took me one attempt pausing between fights and watching your guide)
Amazing, I cleared it, thanks to you. It was way tougher than any other fight in this game. Thank you so much for all the guides on FF7 Remake.
A massive thank you for this guide! After trying many others' this one worked for me. Having only one fury ring that I put on Tifa made it slightly harder than it should've been, and had to do a few runs before nailing it. The elemental fire in defense worked wonders for me as Bahamut summoned ifrit which allowed me to restore health and also MP for aerith using her ability which came in useful for Pride and Joy as Cloud ran out of MP few the last few rounds. Thanks again!
Finally did it. Took about 20 tries. I was about to give up on the game. Watched your video a dozen times and each section before each fight. Helped a lot. Especially against Pride. Thank you!!!!
I gotta thank you for this guide man! I've been on the road to 100% this game and this was one of the BIG obstacles in my progression, let alone this being arguably one the hardest thing's I've come across in a game so far lol. But with a little improv on Pride and Joy, as I ran out of MP, I managed to pull through!! :D
A very thorough and concise guide, thank you :)
thanks for this guide. I messed up a bit both on fight 4 and 5, but still won, thhis guide is so good it leaves rooms for mistakes
Cant believe I have done this finally after 2 years of a break. As always is you my guy. What the hell would I do without you ❤
Thanks a lot for your guide. Been following your guides for some bosses and stumbled upon this. Did this after grinding materias and beat it on third attempt. 👍
So beautiful. Did this on my first try after this guide. You’re AMAZING!
Hell ya I finally cleared it, thanks to the advice of this guide. Great work man!
After two years this still work. Of all guide out there your the one that very clear with step by step guide. Just back for Plat and your vids help me many time. Now only finish a hard mode then plat. Thanks a lot!!
I can’t thank you enough for this guide! I went from doing okay to terrible to omg I did it! Took me twice your time but at least I only had to retry about 10 times and not 20 xD
One year on from my last comment, I gave this another try. Did it first time. It helped I learned I could reset things chosen in weapon cores.
This video was a massive help. Followed it down to the very last attack. I thank you good sir.
Wow. You just saved me hours possibly DAYS worth of trying on my own ONCE AGAIN. your combat sim guides for rebirth had me coming back when I replayed this one. Thank you for your service sir. Looking forward to returning for part 3 remake ❤
Just completed it today thanks to your guide! I'm really surprised at just how powerful Fury Rings are, having all three equipped makes the difference is staggering each boss.
Seeing a lot of positive comments. Watched some of your other guides to get to this point and was very satisfied. Going for the platinum before Rebirth so any good and FACTUAL guides I can get my hands on are great.
Will be using this in about 5 minutes but I gotta mentally prepare myself lol.
This guide is still just as useful as it was 2 years ago. I decided to come back for the platinum medal and complete the play log in this game after rebirth, and I now have the hardest enemy to asses and the hardest trophy to earn under my belt. I’m about to have 100% completion in both remake and rebirth thanks to you, king 👑
Thank you this video guide helped out a lot. It took me 3 tries with this setup. Bahamut was the hardest and I could never prevent him from summoning Ifrit, but by the time he did, his health was very low and I was able to finish him off and just had to focus on Ifrit for the remainder of the fight.
I dont usually do this but your videos have been invaluable during my hard mode play through. The main story I could've eventually knocked out alone but the last two combat challenges I'm not so sure about so thanks
Thank you so much for this guide! Decided to try to finish the plat before rebirth comes out and this got me through what I expected to be the hardest part faster than some of the chapters have been
ay man can u help through share play if possible?
Thank you for the guide! I beat it a month ago on FF7RIntergrade version but now was looking for again on more safe strategy. Your strat is very impressive especially with how you did it with such little materia so it would be possible for all players. I failed with Bahamut and did too much dmg on him so he summoned Ifrit, but I equipped Cloud with maxed Elemental+Fire on armor so Ifrit's attacks were healing him. Honestly I remember struggling with this challenge but now it was almost too quick. Thank you, very nice guide for all kinds of players.
My goodness you are a genius! I did some modifications but it worked like a charm after a few tries. Thank you so much consider yourself subscribed!
Thank you so much for this guide. Yours is by far the nicest guide for this boss lineup.
Only a few more chapters to go for my Platinum now!
I have an even better one btw in the playlist, a little more precise and explained
Fantastic guide! I was struggling even when I did your strats well, but I had only picked up one fury ring during my playthrough - definitely need everyone equipped with it as you did, so I went back to Chapter 14 a couple of times to fix that. I also needed to redo my weapon upgrades for Tifa, since I had picked several magic upgrades, which is pretty much useless for this fight. I got my stats to match yours, and after doing that I beat the challenge on my 2nd try. Thank you!
Well done mate, it all matters, especially when trying to be efficient with your actions.
I did do another guide for this afterwards, it's a little cleaner and I tailored it more to be used straight after finishing 1st playthrough.
I never use Tifa for magic now, she us useless. Only time she will ever cast is if she us on support like with barrier or somet or for the knockdown dmg, like she does in my Weiss fight
After many tries! And watching others, yours is the the one that allowed me to win!! Thanks for the guide man! 🙏 that was so frustrating!! Lol
Thank you sir! I already had platinum back on PS4 release but replaying on PC and looking to speed through and all the other guides fall apart at Leviathan or Bahamut. I held off on spamming Bahamut near the end around 2% hp to not waste mana but he summoned Ifrit. No big deal as I put fire/elemental just in case with all the empty slots your build had too.
Thank you soooo much. I didn't even struggle through hard mode until I faced that Bahamut fight. It took lot's of timing ( and Carbuncle saving me vs Bahamut ) but your guide finally helped me beat this epic battle. Hopefully Weiss will be easier lol. Thanks again bro
Awesome, thanks dude! I never thought I would beat it. Took a good many tries for me to get it down especially Bahamut. Pride and Joy knocked Tifa out right away and I decided to just go for it alternating Cloud and Aerith building ATB then hitting it with a Thundara, two Thundara stunned it then I was able to keep doing that sequence repeatedly on one leg and eventually beat it!
Thank you so much for this guide!! You really helped me out with the combat sim and I got platinum finally 😭🙏 THANK YOU
Great guide. First tried it following along. I just paused in game every few attack strings you said and it worked out. Leviathan was a little random at the start but it still worked out.
Tried this for hours without any luck. Watched your video and got it first time, was shaking near the end of Bahamut!! Thank you so much, you get a like and subscribe
I managed to do it. You are now officially my best friend.
It got a bit messy against Bahamut but in the end it helped me because it gave me the chance to siphon some needed MP from Ifrit.
Great video(s)!
Thanks for the guides m8. Really appreciate your hard work and everything. Cheers 🙏🏻.
I can't believe I beat it. I was trying my own and similar strategies, then came here (knowing I should have come first place), decided to try once to warm up until I got it (I was having a hard time making Shiva work) and once I got here I got all (Ifrit was summoned since I'm not as good a player as you, but those tips for element fire and using my own Arise made it happen). You are truly the best. I hope to find more videos of other FF from you, and I already know I will for Rebith once it comes to PC.
Awesome job Opti! I'm so surprised you didn't use much materia at all XD when I did it (using the video I linked of James' Guides) I was full of materia on Cloud, Aerith and Tifa lol. Really fast and efficient!
This video was amazing and extremely helpful I have beaten it before when I had the game on the ps4 but when playing through it again on ps5 I used this video and it was just sooooo much easier thank you again!!
cannot thank you enough for this guide 😭 i never ever thought i’d beat this after a few goes of trying and failing miserably. i went back and grinded all my materia, gathered the extra fury rings and following your guide (admittedly i kept pausing to refer back but still), i completed it first try SO easily and even went and completed it a second time straight after as i forgot to assess pride and joy prototype 🤦🏼♀️ amazing guide, couldn’t have done it otherwise 💛
Wow, that's awesome back, from zero to twice back to back!! Glad to assist.
@@Optinooby I second this ... I still wipe on Bahamut ... just grinded and got all fury rings ... came back and wiped on Shiva lol ... Im 52 ... played the original in '97 (fave ever game) ... seems my brain isn't what it was heheh ... playing on PC/Intergrade so I have Serphetic Earings ... I thought Fury only works on physical damage ... but anyways ... Im loving every moment and your guides are the best I've come across ... just chaps 17 & 18 left on hard thanks to you ... massive thx, cos without an official guide, this game is tough for an old timer that is used to turn-based combat ... you have literally been the difference between me enjoying the game and not ... so much thx from an old-timer! :) x
JUST completed this ... by pausing every 10 seconds and following your every move ... ended with only cloud alive ... patience is the key ... prob 7th attempt ... thankyou Opti ... THANKYOU :)
Love to you too Nicola :) You show appreciation and love ... respect! :) x
@@chrisread2895 dude stop saying you are an old timer - you're only 52 (maybe 53 by now)
Thanks alot, watched the guide, took some notes, went into it and got it done on my first attempt. Didnt manage to stop Ifrit, but because tifa was using fire protection it was a breezer. Last boss was braindead following your starts. Big thank you, great Teacher!
I love stunlock strategies as they remove most the problem ;)
I slapped tifa with a healing and revival materia incase shit got messy which it did :P. I failed to stagger leviathan, he quickly took down aerith, and got me low, but I got her back up and healed, and kept going. Bahamut gave me no issues, and neither did the final battle! I also healed a tiny bit on final battle with tifa, and had a first strike materia on her to start the battle off with one gauge. Fury rings are a must, I went back and collected 3 in ch14. Once again another flawless guide, it took me two tries only cause I messed up first battle and had to reset!
Thanks bro, Finally got the platinum trophy. after trying few times this is the best guide to beat Bahamut.
Like you mentioned there is no room for error for this to work lol
I was finally able to complete this challenge thanks to you! I just now have to beat the game on Hard and I’ll unlock the platinum. Thank you for the amazing guide!
Thanks again Optinoob! Btw, most of my battles, despite my setup being close to yours (I think my MP up on Cloud was only level 3) kind of devolved after the first stagger and I was really having issues at Bahamut, particular not being able to get him down at stagger. The last time that i completed this, he called Ifrit without even doing Umbral Strikes! BUT I put fire absorb on both Tifa and Cloud. When Ifrit was out, I realized I could beat on him with Tifa and use the ATB fill for Aerith and Cloud to cast magic on Bahamut. I actually ended up killing Bahamut first and Tifa went down, so I used Cloud to keep Ifrit facing away from Aerith and getting healed. Then, on P&J, I immediately took Tifa behind him and he still turned around and 1 shotted her. So I had to manually toggle between Aerith and Cloud to keep them in the Arcane Ward and use Thundara which was enough. Cloud quickly ran out of MP so kept hitting with focused thrust. Double Thundara was enough to keep P&J stunlocked until death. Phew!!
Man I didn't have any trouble with pride and joy on the PS4 version but for some reason he wiped the floor with me countless times on PS5. Finally beat him with this guide. Thanks man!
Amazing, thank you! Bahamut still gave me the most trouble but everything else went smoothly
Holy eff word is this the best build for this group of fights! Dude nice work! Can’t say that enough!
thank you! you helped me defeat it. saw tons of guides but yours are extremely well done and efficient.
ay man can u help through share play if possible?
Thank you for this. Had a few scary moments (Bahamut summoning Ifrit at 1% HP, Pride and Joy taking out Cloud and Aerith in a single attack and having to solo as Tifa) but I got this on my first try!!
Bro!!!, Thanks a lot, about 1 month to get this achievement. So easy this guide. I finally get it, at second try, nice guide mate. Platinum!!!
Thank you, I was able to mostly follow the guide up til Bahamut when he summon Ifrit, but I managed to win with no mp lmao.
Then Pride and Joy because all mp was gone, i just yolod and managed to win barely. Felt so good.
Amazing guide that leave us a little bit of freedom on materia setup. Took me a couple tries since Bahamat was cosplaying Yuna with Ifirit... Now it's done and let's do Weiss! Thanks!!
my newer guide gives u even more freedom mate as i tried to strategise that one around doing Top Secrets straight after normal story
Thankyou so much. After struggling for ages I’ve finally done it. You sir are a genius ❤
Just wanted to say huge thanks for this guide. I tried a couple others and could barely get past Leviathan. Although there were some touch and go spots (Bahamut almost KO'd the party when I forgot I didn't put Elemental+Fire on Cloud's armor and nearly running out of mana for the Pride and Joy fight) I managed to beat it on the first try. Thanks so much!
First try, great job mate, you join the club only few heroes can join ;)
@@Optinooby Naturally I forgot to scan Ifrit though so I had to make my way back, but it was quicker this time, and if I didn't have to scan, it would have been a clean sweep! Again, thanks so much and keep making these videos! You rock!
Thank you for your good work, helps me going through this fight.
After about 20 times replaying I finally beat this! Things didn't go perfect with Bahamut. He was almost dead summoned Ifrit but I just kept up the pressure and made it through! Thanks for making this guide.
Thank you very much, I was stuck like 3 weeks everytime I get to last boss I always run out of mana but now I can continue with rebirth much appreciated.
Yo thank you bro got this out.. my rebirth copy looking at me patiently as im about to platinum remake. Can't wait for your rebirth hard guide. Its going to be a journey
Much Appreciated this video, tried a few other videos and tutorials and didn't work as I kept getting killed. This didn't go as smoothly as your attempts but fire-elemental saved me on the joy and pride prototype with cloud after aerith and tifa were killed. I'd advise anyone to add that onto two characters armors and just pummel away with as much magic on them as you can.
Amazing guide. Got the platinum thanks to you!
6 days I tried this and always failed, the battles dragged on no matter what Materia I tried, then I found this guide. I had so much doubt when I saw not even all slots filled, lowest def armor on, no heals and no raises. I was like this guy is off his rocker. This, was the most simple fight when you actually cast in the same manor you show. The enemy doesn’t get a chance to move. I finally beat it. Thank you so much!
My other guide for this has even less of a build ;)
HOLY COW! Thank you for this! Took me like 10 attempts to get to Pride and Joy but killed it in one shot.
+1 sub (:
Was waiting for this, much appreciated!
1 year later........ xD
Good luck m8 ;)
Great tutorial man, very consistent. Thank you very much
Thanks man, I used your strategy and it worked like a charm.
gotta say i usually don't comment, but thanks to your vid i beat pride and joy the 1st(and only lol nfk) time i fought him so mad props(i wasn't as lucky to stagger bind bahamut and ran into his good ole buddy Ifrit) and tyvm for sharing the knowledge
thank you so much man i tried this for about 2hours but eventually got it thanks to you :)
Man. Thanks. I finally got it. Somehow he summoned ifrit but he died as he did. Then, pride n joy killed Tifa right away and had to 2 man him with no mp on cloud. Kept him stunned with just arieth and thundara (lvl2) but it was your guide that got me there. So thanks mate.
Just cleared this on the 2nd try. Couldn't get the timing with Bahamut right so added Elemental + Fire Materia to armor for Cloud and Aerith. Didn't have to worry about Ifrit anymore. Kudos to you sir, great guide!
Another great guide man, although I did run out of MP halfway through Pride and Joy lol, still got him though. Working on all chapters on hard now
you helped me so much on this fight! i really apperciate it! your a real G! thank you so much!!
Perfect video. I did throw Elem-Fire on Aerith/Tifa in case of Ifrit, which worked perfect for me. Otherwise this is the only successful video I found (worked first time)
Got to be quick with it sometimes but this guide makes it very manageable.
Thank you so much for this guide. Even with the help this took me like 50 attempts (Probably because I did it before Hard Mode and didn't fully level the magic up materia). The first time I got to the Pride and Joy, my heart sank because I failed to dodge the laser and lost Tifa; Luckily the Pride and Joy was so easy that I was able to beat it just by switching between cloud and Aerith and manually building ATB.
Finallyyyy I did it! Thanks for the guide!
Yasssss!!! Got this!!
Took a couple of times at least 8 to get past leviathan and understood her. Then I rest mode my ps5, sleep while really studying this guide, attempt this morning, pass both bahamut and pride and joy first try! I did summon ifrit but I already equipped elemental fire on both cloud and tifa so thank God! 😂
Hey, man, thanks for the guide again 👏 I used someone else’s strat for Shiva and Leviathan, but I managed to beat Bahamut after dying to him three times by using your techniques. Couldn’t stop him from summoning Ifrit, but Bahamut already died by the time I had to deal with Ifrit anyway, also I really liked your idea of stunlocking Pride and Joy with Thunder, unlike other guides, because I didn’t have a lot of MP to waste on Thundagas 😂 Managed to beat the robot first try, now I just have one more trophy left for platinum 😎🏆
Welcome mate!! I especially loved that strategy we came up with Pride and Joy, it's a nice final battle to relax after the pain that is leviathan and bahamut.
I did try thundagas early on testing but like ya say, u just run out of MP, luckily the tier 1 spells work pretty good ;)
Well i gotta say a big "THANK YOU" .. i had to adept alittle with my playstyle but 95% was from your guide.. Now to finish chapter 17 and 18 in hard mode..