[FF7R] How to Clear VS Top Secrets and Make it Look Easy (Guide)
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- There were many requests, so I made a guide for clearing Three-Person Team vs Top Secrets. Most guides focus on being defensive, but I wanted to show you how to make these fights quick and easy even on a first clear. Getting the Ultimate Weapon trophy and the Götterdämmerung does not have to be challenging. With some luck, you can even do it without taking any damage.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:11 Gear and Materia
1:35 Shiva
2:25 Fat Chocobo
3:35 Leviathan
4:49 Bahamut and Ifrit
6:57 Pride and Joy Prototype
9:01 Ending
This guide assumes all materia is mastered. It is not necessary for everything to be mastered, but I would strongly recommend it in order to make things both easier and more consistent. If you want to use Assess, replacing a Refocus would be ideal. Note that you'll still need to encounter Ifrit once at least in order to Assess him. You could also swap in an HP Up or Prayer in place of a Refocus or Luck Up if you feel you need the extra safety.
You will need a minimum of Weapon Level 6 in order to use these strategies, mainly for the materia slots. I recommend the below builds as a minimum. You will have more than enough SP if you have Weapon Level 6. Anything beyond this is not necessary, but certainly nice to have.
Metal Knuckles
Core
- Attack Power +4
- Attack Power +4
- Attack Power +4
- Speed +3
Sub-Core I
- Attack Damage 5% Boost
- Aerial Attack Damage 5% boost
- Buff Duration 10% Boost
- Rear Assault 10% Boost
Sub-Core II
- Attack Power +8
- Attack Power +8
- Attack Power +8
- Speed +4
- New Materia Slot
Sub-Core III
- Attack Power +10
- Attack Power +10
- New Materia Slot
Sub-Core IV
- Attack Power +12
- Attack Power +12
- New Materia Slot
Sub-Core V
- Attack Power +15
- Attack Power +15
- ATB Charge Rate 10% Boost
- New Materia Slot
Mythril Saber
Core
- Magic Attack Power +6
- Magic Attack Power +6
- Max MP +10
Sub-Core I
- Elemental Materia Damage 10% Boost
- Magic 20% Boost with Full MP
Sub-Core II
- Magic Attack Power +10
- Magic Attack Power +10
- Magic Attack Power +10
- MP Regeneration 50% Boost
- New Materia Slot
- New Materia Slot
Sub-Core III
- Magic Attack Power +12
- Magic Attack Power +12
- Attack Spells MP Cost Reduction 20%
- New Materia Slot
Mythril Rod
Core
- Magic Attack Power +5
- Magic Attack Power +5
- Max MP +13
- New Materia Slot
- New Materia Slot
Sub-Core I
- Magic Attack Power +6
- Magic Attack Power +6
- Magic Attack Power +6
- Magic 20% Boost with Full MP
Sub-Core II
- Magic Attack Power +10
- Magic Attack Power +10
- New Materia Slot
- New Materia Slot
Sub-Core III
- Magic Attack Power +12
- Magic Attack Power +12
- New Materia Slot
Let me know what you thought or if you have any questions or suggestions in the comments. Don't forget to like if you enjoyed the video, and feel free to subscribe if you'd like to keep up with any future videos.
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Game: Final Fantasy VII Remake
Language: English
Console: PlayStation 4 Pro
Player: ShinyShinryu
Recorded: May 9, 2020
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Some notes for this method that the video didn't really cover:
- Your weapons do not need to be maxed, but you need at least Weapon Level 6. Recommended upgrades are in the description.
- You will want your materia to be maxed. If you want to swap in an Assess for intel, HP Up for safety, or anything else, I would recommend replacing a Refocus or Luck Up.
- The Fury Rings are essential to this method. The damage buff they give is huge.
- You can use second tier spells (Fira, Blizzara, Thundara) to conserve MP if needed. Bahamut is the only case where it is required to use the top tier spells (Firaga, Blizzaga, Thundaga) for their interrupts.
Shinryu Thanks for the guide. I had a tough go when I started this last week. After farming 2 more fury rings and going through some other parts of the game I missed while leveling up some supporting material, I finally beat this today with a 3:47 time. Thanks for making it look easy, and giving people all the tools to best these guys.
Your guide got me the challenge done in 5 minutes, got tricky with leviathan near the end and out of MP for pride and joy but your tips made all the difference! Any chance on a sephiroth guide?
Hi Shiryu having some issue to maximize the pressure state to fat chocobo having firaga and blizzaga, sometimes works sometimes not, is there any thing to pay attention to in ordere to give a big boost to staggering fat chocobo thanks for an answrer
I can't seem to keep bahamut close enough to the arcane ward to get in time to cast enough aga spells to keep him locked down or prevent him from summoning Ifrit.
Ryan Kelly The key is doing enough damage to get his health down to the m. I ran into this a few times, but you gotta keep cycling through your characters keeping them in the arcane ward. By the time each person does 3 spells 12 in total take tifa and keep punching the heck out of him until he pressures. Then build atb, and hammer him with everything you got. Timing is key.
Brov, I had to leave a comment on this. From someone who already completed this challenge after almost a week of trial and error, this is the best guide for those still looking to finish it. Almost every other video is done AFTER the Gottadamarung has been obtained, not before; most people looking for help are trying to complete this challenge for the first time. But on top of that, you provide insight on HOW to fight each round, which is invaluable. The fight system in this game is so layered, and having that kind of knowledge broken down in an easy-to-understand way put this video a few cuts above the rest. Really wish I saw this while I was going through it my first time, but even then this still taught me more. Thank you for this.
Agreed!
Well Said!
On real
Well done for both . He made everything in simple,easily understandable terms and you recognizes it first for the rest of us.
Not smart taking hp ups revival and healing off of everyone thats suicide and its hard enough
I really appreciate how "to the point" you made this guide. Not a single second wasted on fluff like so many other guides
I'm glad you liked it; hopefully I can get to making more guides in the near future. Thanks for the super thanks, I really appreciate it.
I watched your video many a time to beat it. It was my last trophy to platinum the game. I paused, rewinded, took notes, wrote out an intro, body, and conclusion to prepare my for the battle. After many attempts, I got my first platinum trophy for any game ever. I just realized I never thank you. THANK YOU 🙏
Xd lol same bro this shit took me forever and i made it thanks to this bro. HE IS THE MEN!!
Just started fighting it, am still losing but hopefully I’ll start to memorize the menu so I don’t take forever choosing firaga
@@verix4054 It was pretty difficult for me. It took a lot of time and patience. Good luck and have fun!
@@OddDrummerGaming just skipped ifrit about, moving on to pride and joy wish me luck!!!
I’ve done it!! Thanks man for the words of encouragement!!
Your tip on holding back for the second pressure phase on Bahamut is what got me through this fight. I couldn't figure out why the second pressure phase was so short. Thanks for the guide!
Dude, this is the best guide format for FF7R I've come across. All gear and materia load outs right up front, no rambling commentary, short concise instructions, and best of all you show it actually destroys the challenge from start to finish. Mad respect to you bro.
My mouth was on the floor after seeing how he took down bahamut
He beat his ass so bad that Ifrit didn’t show. He was like “Imma stay here in hell”.
BRUH!
Duperon Music Channel 🤣😂☠️
Yeah, just spamming aga spells, no skill, there’s no fun in that
Ifrit was so scared to come out he changed his name to ishit
I love how straight to the point you are in a nice, calm manner; no bullshit. Thanks for the help bro!
Dude that was fantastic! Turned a 45 minute fight into less than 10, it was incredible to watch the strategies in action 💪👍
DUDE. HOW THE HELL DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS?! Are you Soldier 1st Class in real life?
No, but I bet hes an EX-soldier ;)
He's the real Cloud Strife
If he's a Soldier, Rufus Shinra would like to know his location.
My wife is a soldier
Hes not just in soldier he IS SOLDIER
"That was another easy battle, wasn't it?"
... yeah, nope
@Max Cranston
Fuck out of here with your shitty ass DS meme.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
The shiva and fat chocobo is easy lol
@Max Cranston L'chaim!
@@introvertedwall44 he's not wrong, anyone can easily beat this game in easy and normal, hard mode requires thinking, and learning patterns and adjusting to such so you can come up with a counter to every semi-boss bosses in the game. In other words, git gud.
And yes I've yet to git gud but I'm learning to get there!
Absolutely amazing guide, don’t expect it to work first time as you’ll need to get used to the play style and also get the muscle memory down for what to do and when to do it. You’ll get further and further each time just keep following it!
After 10 hours of grinding materia and trying over and over again to beat this i final did it. Thanks bro
Best guide ever! It takes a few attempts to learn how to master it, especially for timing and switching character at right time, but it definitely works! Amazing!
This video was a godsend, your clear instructions were extremely helpful and I really do appreciate you taking the time to do more than just show an unedited run because without someone explaining what the heck is going on on screen it can be a bit difficult to follow videos like this. Thanks again!
a couple notes from someone who struggled with this battle:
- follow the shiva guide to the T. If she gets off Frost Familiars, just start over.
- If Fat Chocobo'a stagger is about to finish, cast a Blizzara & then another Firaga. as long as he's pressured he won't attack. Kweh Kweh is what you want to prevent. Bombs Away is easily avoidable.
- BIG NOTE FOR LEVIATHAN. In the beginning Parry to Leviathan with Tifa to avoid the first attack, & after Leviathan will ALWAYS look at your controlled character. Have Cloud go left and Aerith go right & just switch back and forth between them. I experimented with this for like 10 mins straight and he NEVER attacked. You can literally wait till your ATB is filled. use Thundara not aga until he's pressured. you can use aga but ara is quicker and saves MP for Bahamut. Once he's pressured, Focus Strike & Thrust with a Thundaga from Aerith and he'll stagger. His stagger goes QUICK so one focus strike then uppercut & dive kick with ana aga from an arcade ward. he should have no to very little damage but if he starts Tidal Roar don't panic. a few thundara spells should finish him.
- follow the bahamut guide here to the T, he's actually not that hard. aga interrupts his patterns. as one person is casting their second aga, the other should be starting their first. if he summons Ifrit, don't panic but finish off Bahamut. after Ifrit is super easy. two blizzagas from aerith should kill him.
- Pride & Joy is just a thundaga spree but has always been either really easy or really hard for some reason lol AVOID BEAM CANNON NO MATTER WHAT. take tifa and parry immediately, don't attack.
It'll all be worth it when you win just keep practicing and using this guide.
Omg I kept dying on Leviathan like 10 times in a row before I saw this and finally.. FINALLY got to Bahamut. Thank you so much.
Dude i almost won but got hit with a beam cannon which killed tifa. I still almost won with aerith and cloud but lost. Leviathan is annoying though
ADDING TO SHIVA: to conserve MP, don’t use firaga after the stagger. Just spam true strike with Tifa, and use Braver with Cloud once she’s almost dead. It’s way quicker, and will save a crap ton of MP.
Similar thing with Fat Chocobo: Keep up spells with Aerith, but Only one Aga move from Cloud after stagger. Spam true strike, and use either Infinity’s End, or Braver from Cloud.
im running out of mp on bahamut, cant believe its been 2 years since i gave up and never got to him
i can get to him consistently but damn mp
I'm trying to figure out your method for Leviathan, it's not working well at all. I slide towards him with Tifa and have Cloud and Aerith run to the left and right. I try to switch back and forth between the two of them but he still manages to cheese me before I can get the pressure on. This guy's video was luck based how he did it to be honest.
I literally just completed, this guide worked perfectly I couldn’t be happier. Definitely takes a few tries but if you’re an experienced player you can get it done! Amazing guide thank you
My experience (after about 13 hours and 100 000 gil trying to replicate this guide);
1) Follow the guide VERY closely, a 1 second slip up or wrong action will likely get your characters killed, especially in Leviathan/Bahamut fights
2) For Shiva and Fat Chocobo, pressure them as per the instructions in this guide, then finish them off using just your abilities, don't waste MP (True Strike + Mash triangle when ATB not ready/Cross Slash/Sorc Storm)
3) Leviathan was a horrible fight... carefully follow the guide, he's much easier to beat when he uses the Bellow attack (dodge around with Tifa in an arc - I basically parried to the edge of the map and then just continued parrying along the edge of the map till I got right next to him which is a safety zone
4) If Leviathan uses the barrage attack, I found it's much easier to basically just run centrally towards him rather than from the side (I seemed to always get hit when he uses barrage and I run to him from the side)
5) To easily pressure Leviathan, use 2x Thundaga at the start of the fight (with Cloud/Aerith), hit him a couple of times with Tifa till her ATB is charged, use a Dive Kick, then quickly switch back to Aerith, use ATB boost, hit him with another Thundaga from Aerith and that should be enough to pressure, then focus strike to pressure heaven
6) Bahamut fight is VERY action sensitive, as soon as the fight start, cast Fiiraga, like literally as soon as the fight starts, if you even take a few steps forward with Tifa first, it will ruin the sequence and he'll claw you. Once you cast Firaga, follow the guide, quickly cast Arcane ward with Aerith, then RUN around with Tifa till Firaga is cast. If you dodge around with Tifa rather than run while Firaga is being cast, he will claw you. Once you cast Firaga, follow the guide 100% and you'll be ok
7) Goes without saying, copy the equipment setup, get the fury rings, they're not optional.
Hope that saves someone the many hours it took me to get it right!
I want to bump this comment while also adding something from my experience.
While fighting any of these bosses, you NEED to keep an eye on your mana. Maybe it's better to risk it and try to stagger by using focusing strike rather than another aga spell, because if you run into Bahamut or Pride and Joy without enough mana... You are practically done for.
The basic -aga spellchain on Bahamut always has me run out of MP before Bahamut is on the ground the second time, I don't use any spells when he's down like in the video, but somehow Tifa is at 0, Aerith is at around 12 (so no more -aga spells) and Cloud has only one left around 25... I just don't understand. I always keep them in the Ward as well.
Leviathan is RNG manip fest, I don't seem to grab the pattern of his various attack range triggers yet.
Reading people say "I've beat it first try, naked and with the controller in my mouth while the screen was turned off" makes me wanna turn off the whole Internet sometimes.
@@bigbadbanana I agree 100% with you. I try so hard to mimic his fight with Leviathan, but it NEVER goes the same way. He gets PRESSURED, falls down, then is up within 2-3 seconds before I get a chance to STAGGER him. It's so frustrating.
I can beat Shiva, Fat Chocobo and Leviathan easily following this guide but I CANNOT beat Bahamut. I've tried at least 30 times so far and he still ends up summoning Ifrit. Bahamut doesnt pressure as easily for me as he does in this video. Smh
@@TheLastSOLDIER87 same and idk how to get him to not summon Ifrit. It keeps happening for me when he’s at about 25% health and pressured, he’ll somehow stand up and summon ifrit and it’s ggs. It’s so frustrating because I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong. It looks just what he did in the video, but for some reason I still end up with ifrit.
WOHOOOO!! FINALLY!! took me some trial and error but I managed to do it following your guide to the perfect detail. It works!! I had to improvise on pride and joy because aerith got grabbed. But when that happened I just used cloud to carry on with the thundaga and mashed his back legs with tifa and used tifas dive kick to keep his legs crippled! Thanks so much for the guide. You're a god send! Attempting hard mode now for platinum!
Finally managed to beat it, took a few tries but well worth it.
Thank you so much for your guide.
Your calm and collected voice really made this guide and eased this fight.
Excellent guide. At times it was a bit inconsistent (depending on either RNG or minute differences in positioning and timing compared to this video), but the strategy is undoubtedly effective and help me clear this challenge, which might have just killed my soul played normally. Much appreciated.
This is the pride and joy video a lot of people have been waiting for. Well done.
Thanks, I hope it was worth the wait.
IT'S TRULY AMAZING HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THIS STRATEGY! EASY TO FOLLOW WITH NO DAMAGE! YOU ARE THE BEST!
I followed this guide step-for-step, pausing the game between crucial timings, and did it on the first try! Awesome guide, thanks!
You didn't beat it on the first try pinocchio
This is what i call a tutorial, making something insanely difficult accessible to everyone. Hope to see more guides from you!
you know the guide is really good when other creators take inspiration on this guide.
This is my favorite vs top secrets first clear guide for two reasons.
1. it is very well put together, providing the build and theory before the fight, unlike most others I have seen, as well as a step by step breakdown of the fights.
2. The step by step breakdown of each fight provides mini objectives for players to strive for. This in turn teaches players not only how to tackle the hardest challenge in the game, but also how to increase the number of effective actions they take per in game second, thus teaching them to be more skilled players in general. This was the biggest joy I got out of testing any of the methods I have seen so far and just wanted to share my gratitude for the experience.
When I used this strategy to take out top secrets, my time wasn't as good as yours (I beat it in 5 min). I failed to defeat Leviathan while staggered, but I know that if I had been a bit more efficient I could have. I was also a split second away from having bahamut get back up and summon ifrit which probably would have ended my run, lol.
I hope to see more content like this from your channel in the future. You've earned my sub.
I was never able to stop bahamut from summoning ifrit . My atb materias weren’t still all maxed out so I couldn’t cast spells fast enough. On my last try I was lucky enough that bahamut was down to somewhere around 15% HP and I was able to beat him while ignoring ifrit. Although ifrit did kill Aerith, but without bahamut around I was able to get him quickly with just tifa and cloud. Pride and joy was super easy , I pretty much spent most of my MP on bahamut and I beat him mostly on just ability commands on his legs once I ran out of mp on all characters.
@J W I care. And congrats for being an actual douchebag. I bet you couldn't follow this method because you're too dumb so trolling made you feel better. smh
A year later watching this, and I got them down with this strat in ~7 tries. Lost cloud and aerith to silence on Pride & Joy, but luckily a few uppercuts to divekick finished off a leg and bought me some time. Thanks man! Straight to the point and effective.
This one took ages, timing plays a bigger role in this method so don't lose focus. But as of 2023 this method is still amazing and I thank this man for his contribution to society
You are a gentleman, a scholar, and a wonderful human being for making this step-by-step guide. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
The quiet monotone voice makes this even more brutal! 😂😂
It sounds like a conspiracy theory doc
Sounds like he’s trying not to wake someone up
It’s like he isn’t even trying 😭😭 haha
I love you for this, especially the Bahamut bit was incredibly useful
I rarely like UA-cam videos but this one deserved it because your guide is the only reason I was able to beat this challenge! Thank you!
The hardest part for this legend was pronouncing "Götterdämmerung" lol
@Ferzo: I think its pronounced Ger ter dam er rung, because of that umlaut over the O, I believe its an Opera "Twilight of The Gods" , in this its a trinket to help you with hard mode, as without you basically die, I have only managed Chapters 1-7 on hard, after that I just keep on dying so I need this trinket for the rest of the Chapters to get that Platinum, I don't know why Square thought it was a good idea to do Hard Mode, constantly repeating chapters kind of makes it very boring, no offence to fans of the franchise, but Hard Mode was not necessary imo. Its so memory hungry as well, 90 Gigs is a lot , so I want to remove it when I get the Platinum.
@@jane1975 it's not really pronounced like that. Translated it means something like 'Dawn of the Gods', often misconcepted as 'Ragnarök', which means more like 'Destiny of the gods'.
I don't think hard mode is thaat hard but I'd still agree to some extent.
For me it's to pressure leviathan
Thank you so much! It took a while to grind for AP before doing the challage and honestly it was 100% worth it. It took me a few tries but I was able to finish the challenge on the same day. Thank you so much for the guide and helping me! The video is very well made and I love that you added subtitles in the vid as well!
After a week of trying and trying I finally beat this today! Cannot say thanks enough for this video! It works, it’s simple, when everything goes right it’s a joy. Thankyou soooo much for uploading this. You are a legend!!
This is a perfect guide! I can't wait to use this and obliterate top secrets. You're a lifesaver, thank you.
I don't know about perfect, but I do hope it helps.
@@ShinyShinryu it definitely helped! worked like a charm, in fact. my VERY first attempt at top secrets was a success and I beat it in 3:32. All thanks to this guide!
Also, if anyone is wondering how to get the fury rings just replay chapter 14 and head straight to Corneo's mansion. The ring can be found in the main lobby/ reception area beneath the stairs. It's repeatable so just keep replaying that portion until you have all 3.
Set and Match Gaming thank you 🤧
Do you mean that you can just collect the ring, cancel out and restart the level and get it again? Or do I need to complete the whole chapter over and over? I need to get the Elemental Materia a second time but I really can’t be bothered doing all of the side missions again :(
@@trevoryong yeah, that's what I did for my third ring. I got the first two while playing on normal and hard, but my third one I just played up until I got the ring, saved, and then went straight back to chapter 17
@@trevoryong if you plan to do dress achievement, you will play repeatedly.
and this item basically is the last event of the chapter, no more fight if you manage to get this item
@@coyzmann Thanks. Just not sure I care enough to go through that chapter again. I've already played it twice just to complete the Colosseum and it was so painful beating the Hell House.
Shinryu, awesome video bro! So helpful because you actually verbally explain every move you make whereas in other videos in other channels they don’t and things happen so fast that we often have to rewind just to see what they did. Plus you also have a helpful diagram of your materias
This guide is incredible, after testing it with all the rings and materia on (the materia wasn't even upgraded to max lol) i beat it on the third time! Thanks a lot, made my platinum a breeze.
The highest quality tutorial I have ever watched. I already beat this Battle Simulator, watching you demonstrate your methods is still so fun to watch!
This is the video first guide I've ever made, maybe I should do it more often... Glad you enjoyed!
I wish i seen this guide before clearing it. Would've made my life easier. The true boss of this game is jules
Hahaha that is funny as hell!
One of the 3 trophies I have left to get... Dude falls once and if you fall, it's over
Jules is my bitch! My personal record on pullups is 61! But I still haven't beaten P&J.
So true, I doped him up though and edged him out at 46
I won with 44
Well I finally finished off The Pride and Joy Prototype! I find you have to approach these fights in your own way because everyone has a different play style. Guides are definitely helpful but following one play by play will make it more difficult for certain people. Helpful guide thank you!
I know it's been over a year since you did this video but thank you so much! I finally got this fight done and the platinum trophy! Thank you for the guide.
Wow! Finally got this done after 2 days of trying. As others have mentioned, you have to follow this exactly.. down to the weapon core upgrades, and the materia as well. I questioned some of the materia choices and tried to mix it up slightly and got nowhere, so I finally took the time to AP grind the materia used here and followed the specs exactly and got it done in about 3-4 goes
Ok. I am going to admit this. This IS possible even for a 48 yo man like me. I am at awe of how detailed this guide was. And it has to be followed almost to the last command. I tried to be “smarter” doing some tweaks on materia and commands and although it might work the most efficient way is this one. I don’t know how you came up with this strategy but... damn.
Reading u gave me hope.i just cannot do it.i donno what's is going on, it seems like monsters don't follow any of the patterns shown here.
Andree Hide you must be missing something. Did you setup the weapons with the upgrades he indicates? Do you have the materias he uses? Tifas materias are super important. Her ATB bar fills instantaneously and the trick is to attack every time a single slot of her ATB fills up. This won’t give the enemy time to attack and the therefore it won’t matter if they behave different because they won’t have time to attack you. Listen carefully at each attack he performs. Which one is causing you trouble? Just focus on one at a time.
@@josebermudez3223 just Bahamut, I can easily beat the others in minutes or seconds, but bahamut? Even I I go step by step he just randomly do different things. Sometime it doesn't even follow me when I run to the side. One but kills aerith and stuff like that. I have everything set like he ask. But still no luck.
Andree Hide well that means your already there. Once you beat him the final boss is super easy. I even beat him with just aerith after messing up and having tifa and cloud dead. Now for bahamuth it’s 3 parts. First have Cloud Firaga and immediately Aerith cast Arcane Ward on him so Firaga hits twice. Use up both clouds and aeriths atbs with high Firaga and Thundaga from the ward so each hit twice. The purpose is to keep him busy so he does not attack. Priority is to have him hit wit magic repeatedly. After cloud and aeriths atbs are used move in with Tifa. By the time the last spell hits from the ward he should come down and tifa is already hitting him building up atb. Once he’s on his knees part 2 is building full ATB on all 3 because you’ll use all magic attacks on him once he goes back up. Watch as he switches among all 3 hitting until all 3 have full ATB bars. After that just have everyone wait over the arcane ward because once he does the umbral thing you’ll spend all of those atbs on high spells. He keeps switching among all 3 just to keep them on the ward. That’s it. ALL OF THEM SHOULD USE MAGIC until he’s down. If you see him go down a second time just unleash everything.
Andree Hide watch my far from perfect run. I did mistakes. But stuck with the strategies and beat it.
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2 years later and this guide is still very relevant. Was able to beat this easily after trying for 4 days. Awesome.
Why wouldn’t it be ?
Thanks for the helpful guide Shinryu! It took me quite a lot of trial and errors, but once you get familiarized with what you're supposed to do in each phase you'll get there :)
This guide helped me to get my platinum trophy, thank you so much :) I just gave Aerith the magnify materia+heal (saved me during the Bahamut fight)
It’s almost like listening to Sherlock as he calculates each move to defeat his foes.
Haha, I was thinking that, when he was in the command bar and tifa was running in slow motion I could almost hear "dazed, the opinion will throw a blind haymaker, counter with right block and swift jab to the cheek."
Like a Jojo character lol
I remember when this guide came out. So many revelations watching it. Changed my gameplay completely from them out. The muscle memory was hard to ingraine at first, and I had to reference the video several times, but you sir gave me the platinum for this game. It's too bad there's not much to do in this game after that. I never wanted to put this game down. Most fun I've had with a video game in decades. The wait for part 2 is gonna feel like a long one.
Same as. I was more of a attack and build atb and just use abilities or spells and had my party at max health and didn't even consider using any of the other purple materia. Now I'm using the quick L1 L2 and L1 R2 shortcuts
Part 2 in a few months brother!
@@56TyskieHa! I’m here from the future timeline and just now using this guide, I waited until Rebirth was near release so I could do it all back to back. I was an OG ps1 player so it’s incredible to finally play.
Love your guide bro! Finally finished it after lots of practice and attempts. Gave up on the normal method but this actually works. Hats off
By heart was pumping so hard while doing all this, but his voice is so calm and comforting haha
Awesome run, very straightforward and no nonsense. Loved it
You did an amazing job here man! Got the platinum now thanks to you, thank you so much! ❤
Thanks. Took me a couple of trys to get it down but didn't take long overall to learn it all. Really helpful video. Again, thanks.
This was clutch, totally cleared it after a few tries, Bahamut doesn’t leave any room for error! Thanks for the great help man
Glad it helped, grats on your clear
Thank you for the guide! Took me a while to get it done since I got the reflexes of a tree... Leviathan kept attacking before I could pressure it and Bahamut managed to summon Ifrit a basic attack before I could kill it but it worked out in the end! Appreciate the help!
FINALLY cleared this today!! Thank you for the detailed & efficient walkthrough, truly the best gameplay tutorial I've come across.
Thank you so much for this guide! As other have done, I've watched this video many times, studied and took notes before going to battle. I also failed many, many times before I got the required muscle memory (and rng luck lol), but eventually I succeeded thanks to all the training and planning. Thank you so much for your help on this!
Masterfully done! What you did to Bahamut is nothing short of amazing. You were strictly offensive, and you devastated all of them. You preventing Bahamut from recovering and never getting a chance to recover is astounding. Awesome tactics, well done!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it
After many attempts at trying it this way i finally did it. Be warned that if you don't get everything perfect you are pretty much screwed. Bahumant got up with one hit left and summoned ifrit right before he died. Just managed to get out of there alive.
You can replace a few of the stat-raising materia (like luck and Refocus) for revives and prayers if things get a little hairy.
Your video helped me TONS. Took me a lot of trying and error, but once i beat Bahamut for the first time, i got to beat Pride and Joy at the first try as well. Thank you so much, you rock!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I finally got this trophy now. This almost broke me and I kept getting stuck on Leviathan. When I did finally get past it, I killed Bahamut first time even though I made a mistake and allowed him to summon Ifrit (then I killed Ifrit with Blizzaga) and Tifa died right at the start of the Pride & Joy fight, because I forgot how to parry. Still managed to kill it first time with just Cloud and Aerith. Cast the arcane ward and then kept casting thunder type spells on the legs and building up ATB by striking the enemy in between. Great video. Thanks again.
Great tutorial! I've been trying like six hours to beat them... finally did it! Thanks
Took me 9 days of doing this to beat it and I wouldn’t have gotten anywhere without this guide thanks so much man 👍
Hey man, I just got this too and it also took me 9 days!!!!!
It done take y'all nine days?? What for? it took me 3 hours of suffering but i got it done.
Thanks man! on my second night trying I got it. Great guide. Wish more were like this one. Straight to the point and effective.
This guide is hands down the best. It only took me two days to find this. After 3 tries I got!! Dude!! Thank you
playing a single match without heals/revival/any defensive materia gives me anxiety the whole game.
Just another person who managed to finish this fight thanks to this guide. You're the real SOLDIER.
Thank you for this. Straight, to the point. Tried other FAQs and videos, yours was the easiest to understand and duplicate. Couldn’t believe some other guys had Götterdämmerung equipped in their videos, as if it was readily available to most of us… smh. Thank you for not doing this.
It took about 15 attempts to get it “close to right”. I had so little MP left after finally beating Bahamut (I wasn’t nearly as efficient as you), I barely beat the Pride and Joy Prototype. Tifa and Cloud were KOd and Aerith had to Soul Drain to squeak out 3 Thunders to win. LOL. Did it though, all thanks to you. Cheers!
BEST GUIDE EVER! After 9 hours, that moment when I got Bahamut down, it was so easy getting this trophy! Thank you so much! What a feeling!
Thank you so much for this guide! I took me a bit to get everything together but I finally got it done thanks to your guide. My finish time was 3:58. Now, to get that darn motorcycle trophy.
Hopefully you’ve done it by now but you set the mode to easy and you’ll have plenty of health
I love you! I followed your guide to a tee and beat it FIRST TRY！I still can't believe this. The record shows 4:44, but I've spent probably at least 20 mins pausing the game mid-fight to watch your vid after reach sequence. Before this, it took me an hour and a half to beat Monsters of Legend, I followed a 3 fury rings glass cannon speed run video that only showed the build but not the thorough explanation you did. Now I can finally start hard mode, much thanks!
Congrats!
This is by far the best tutorial for this trial, followed your guide and done it in about 2-3 tries.
An outstanding guide in multiple different dimensions. It's well-produced and these strats make use of mechanics I have either underutilized or didn't know existed. That's what I get for playing FF7R without consulting the internet except when absolutely necessary.
I beat this gauntlet of bosses the "hard way" and yeah, Bahamut was by far the hardest encounter I've done in FF7R. I had noticed that -ga spells interrupt Bahamut during his attack phase, but I wasn't able to use it to my advantage to this degree. It's so satisfying to see how this strategy absolutely humbles him - even to the point where his unfair summoning of Ifrit doesn't even happen!
When I finally beat Bahamut, I was terrified of P&J, not knowing what to expect. But thankfully it was easy to figure out the mechanics and I was able to win on the first try, avoiding having to defeat Bahamut again. Even though P&J is an easy battle, this strategy is a very well-optimized and elegant way to kill it.
In fact, these pure-aggression strategies are so elegant that I'm going to add replaying Top Secrets with them to my "To-Do" list after I earn my last trophy (Hardened Veteran), along with the Cloud soloing Bahamut challenge.
This was an inspiring video. Thanks, Shinryu.
Great video! Man it helped me finally beat bahamut and pride and joy prototype! Thanks!
This is a great tutorial, but it can be inconsistent, I have ran shiva like 15 times to get the muscle memory down, and have done the fight identical every time, sometimes she gets to stagger, other times shes one hit away and flys off and does diamond dust. I think this is by far the best tutorial, it just sucks when you get to bahamut and the inconsistency factors can kick in. I'm sure if you have run it hundreds of times those inconsistencies will be a tiny fraction of a chance, its frustrating lol. My best so far after playing for like 2 hours testing it, is bahamut 1/3rd health, unable to keep him from attacking even if I hit him with aga spells. I think they have to be timed apart from each other and not spammed, which is something people should think about. Spamming them constantly seems to not hold him down long enough
Yeah, that's definitely an aspect that's difficult for me to gauge. Because I've done this challenge countless times, my perception is skewed a bit, and things that I don't think of as threats can actually be pretty dangerous without that same experience.
For Bahamut, yeah, there's definitely some timing required. You don't want to do it too quickly because you'll leave a gap for him to recover, but going too slowly will also leave a gap.
I found the same thing
I think it depends on how much damage you’re dealing too with the aga spells because the spells don’t deal consistent damage
I did this simulation several times using this strategy. The first time this strategy worked for me, I managed to beat Bahamut without letting him summon. But sometimes when my damage output isn’t high enough, I won’t beat him fast enough and he will get to summon. The two magic ups I had on Aerith were only leveled 3/5. But thankfully, his HP is very low at that point and I beat him around the time he summons Ifrit
Basically i attempted for about 1-2 hours without every materia maxed, couldn't get past bahamut. Grinded ap for about 2 hours, maxed out everything, then managed to do exactly the same as this video here in like, 20-30 minutes trying. Remembering: the rings aren't optional, they are a must have!
Shiva: she is always 100% staggered, and even if somehow you don't manage to stagger her(maybe you didnt have materias maxed out or perhaps while choosing to cast stop you didn't press l1 to cast it single target, but i don't know if this really matters at all), you're still fine. You should just spam fire (not, fira or firaga) with cloud and aerith, both at the same time, untill she is pressured again. Otherwise you will never be able to hit her due to she being able to recast her ice-barrier thing before fira or firaga goes off thus being virtually invincible... So i'd say she is fail proof.
Fat chobo: i dont know how the fight goes if you dont kill it in the first stagger, he's pretty easy... Can even save some aerith mp casting ra spells instead of ga spells while he is staggered, i would still use ga spells on cloud, but it's up to you to say how much mp u can save by payin attention to the chobos hp bar.Tifa spam true strike nonstop while staggered and its done.
Leviathan: even if it gets up you can still easily win, since it seems that even with everything maxed and following the guide there's an RNG factor in this fight. If it gets up, you just keep spaming thundaga and dodging whatever you can, since he is not tanky at all.I think out of about the 10 times or so i attempted, once or twice i felt like restarting... the HP of your characters doesnt matter at all here, if you get past with 1 hp it's all, just be sure to try to save aerith some mp with ra spells if possible, cloud has lesser mp consumption on this equipment/materia set, so if you feel like using ga spells for dmg, use him.
Bahamut: I did the same strat as the video, but he got up and managed to summon ifrit when he was with about 5% hp left. I think the key is how far he gets pressured from the arcane ward so you don't have to walk that far your characters to the ward and losing a bit of time.But even if he does summon ifrit, If bahamut dies as soon after that and before unleashing any attack it's still ok since ifrit is really weak.... You can kill ifrit spammin blizzara with aerith in the arcane ward and using tifa and cloud to build stagger.
Pride and Joy: it goes exaclty as the video depicts, way easier than the bahamut fight. If you got that, this one is not gonna be a problem for you.
Hope it gave a little bit more of an insight to anyone who's still struggling with this. And thanks for the awesome video with this dope strat!!
The way I do it is kinda the same as Shinryu. I start off with using the firaga's with Cloud and Aerith, run up to her with Tifa, build my atb, use stop, switch to Aerith, build up her atb, use arcane ward on Cloud, switch to Clould, use firaga's, switch back to Tifa, build up atb again, use stop again, switch to Aerith again, use one more firaga, switch back to tifa, use punches, use starshower, and finish her off with punches. Works every time
Anyone willing to shareplay this?? 😭
Man I'm trying to get caught up cuz I never got around to this years ago when it came out but THIS is the best guide I've seen. Usually i don't like to follow guides completely instead just picking what I like from here and there if I hit a bit of a wall that takes up time. I never used to use them but with this job I'm physically and mentally exhausted when I get home so I can't really afford to get STUCK stuck ya kno? This shit almost filtered me until I found this lol. You're incredible and thank you for saving me more time I'm dead ass going to follow this to the T 🤣
Thank you so much for this guide!!
I completed this boss run a few weeks after the game came out, but recently (and stupidly) overwrote my cloud saves with a brand new game, so lost all my progress.
I had about 10 attempts following this guide and just couldn’t come close to replicating your results. This is when I noticed I’d not upgraded my weapons to suit the strats in this guide, so found Baby Weiss, reset my weapons and upgraded accordingly, did the boss run on the first attempt.
You are a legend and I hope you do Part 2 when it comes out
This is what I've been looking for. I've struggled with this 1. After losing about a dozen times I just started playing the chapters on hard. I was waiting on a guide like this
You just earned a new subscriber!
@@vontay77 Thanks!
Been looking for a proper strat for this, other videos have like 20mins on this just barely getting by which is hardly any help but you just destroy it like nothing well done!
Thank you!! I just beat this. Literally everyone was beefed after beating the game and all materia was mastered but this was still a huge challenge as far as execution.
When FF7R Intergrade came out I bought it, beat the game and tried to go for the platinum. This was literally the only thing stopping me from getting it. I watched so many video guides on it back then, even this one, but to no avail, so I shelved the game thinking I'd never be able to beat it. Finally, after picking the game back up again today to see if I could beat it, I do it on my second attempt following this guide. Thank you!!! Felt like damn ages the amount of time I spent on this.
Wow. And here i am playing defensively with a tiniest bit of luck againts bahamut. Lol. Well done
honestly, I tried the all in magic approach with him and ended up using all my mp and still getting damaged, with none left for curing. I don't know, maybe I needed more luck or something... but I ended up going for a more balanced approach.
After 100+ tries i got it!!! It was so difficult but i could not have done it without this guide. Thank you!
Congrats!
Instant thumbs up straight away for simply having such a clear diagram for the materia set up. Really concise
Thank you!!!! Setup like you recommended. Leviathan kept kicking my butt! But, the first time I finally got past Leviathan, I managed to beat Bahamut (w/o him summoning Ifrit) and Pride and Joy in the same run and got the trophy! Your video is amazing and I'm so appreciative that you made it.
This would take a lot of practice since if you mess up you're dead lol. But It's by far the best guide on UA-cam since there's a lot of explanation on each boss's attacks and how to beat it.
Took me 1 hour to finally make it. Its kinda hard to keep the atb up all the time, but its doable. Only the pride and joy went a little worse, as he grabbed cloud, so aerith ran out of mana. But its possible!
@@blyth4253 If you practiced a lot of times before finding this guide then it's faster. Because after finding this guide and then getting all the materia and gear needed, I was able to beat it in about an hour too.
It's by far the best guide on UA-cam.
@@Righteous1ist yeah, it was the same for me, its really nice once you see it working
I can confirm that this works! It took me two entire days of trying though, a lot of frustration but it DOES work lol thank you so much!
Grats on the clear
Agree it took me 4 hours but learning the pattern and the patients for it well fucking worth it 👍👍
2 days i dont have 2 days i have things to do in real life lol
Been on this longer than 2 days and can't get part bahamut. I also need 2 more fury rings
This is the hardest part yet and i still need to do chapter 18 :(
This, exactly this and only this worked for me! Thank you so much for making this guide! Subbed! Looking forward to other guides from you, awesome work!
After a week of training, I finally emerged victorious. Thank you for everything, sensei.
Watching this after the under 2 min vid is just crazy. even with this it gonna take me forever
THANK YOU!!! I FINALLY BEAT THIS AFTER WEEKS OF FAILURE! I followed this guide to a tee and managed to scrape by just barely! I beat the first three bosses pretty easily but when it came to Bahamut, I ALMOST let him summon Ifrit. He was a split second away from being summoned but I managed to kill him just in time! And it also helped that Pride and Joy was a complete pushover. I can finally sleep at night! Thanks again and you've earned yourself a new subscriber!
This not only helped me complete the main objective but additionally contributed to a plethora of new skills I've now acquired.
Thank you for making this video.
Thank you for this guide. I forgot about the multiply on the time materia but I didn't really need it. I like your illustrations for the setups as well
Thank you, dude. I managed to keep my sanity in check thanks to this guide 🙏
Thank you, I'm glad it was helpful
I rarely comment on any UA-cam video, but this was incredible!
I love you so much man, I couldn't have done it without the builds and fight strategies you provided. You're a legend
Thank you! My tifa died right away during the pride and joy fight and I thought it was over. But the spam of thundaga and shiva saved me