"Mathews PHASE 4" 33 Breakdown and BUILD
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2022
- "Mathews PHASE 4" 33 Breakdown and BUILD - Dan Staton and MFJJ aka Josh Jones of @Podium Archer build the brand new Mathews Phase 4 bow. This is the Mathews Phase 4 early launch. We had a chance to build it, and bring the audience along for the total build start to finish. The boys go through their thoughts about the new Phase 4 33 as well build it. #elkshape #bowbuild #mathews
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You know what needs to be done? Take a V3X and put some limb savers on it, shoot it against this new Phase 4 in a controlled environment with a decibel meter.
I second this motion.
I appreciate your willingness to put your goals out there to hold yourself accountable! Shooting indoor has changed the way I shoot for the better for sure!
Thanks for the reviews dudes.
love the cave setup. And the editing is engaging and interesting on this one. Nice work.
Mathews are improving the wheel every year! I can't afford to buy a new bow every year but when it comes time to get a new bow it is nice to know that the technology will get better every year till then. 🙂
Bought V3X two weeks ago, and shot the Phase 4 today. It is quieter, and felt really good with less vibration.
These bows are sick!
The more sleek look is awesome. Everything is tied into the riser. I bet you can move through the woods without the worry of snagging on debris. Wish I could upgrade from the v3 27
Dan, A lot of noise out there is people wondering if the “rubber” between the limbs will break down over time. I’ve personally seen harmonic dampers break down over time. After talking to Mark Hayes do you have insight into this? Love the channel….Thanks!
If you can pay $3000 for the bow with accessories, so what if the bows plastic breaks down. You’re obviously rich so just buy another one 😉
You know for a fact last year someone in a meeting said "hey, let's run the sight and stab through a machined pocket.". Somebody else "nah, nah, nah, calm down. We'll do the sight only then save the stab for next year. So it's new."
Glad to see you guys together again. I know there's long history but after the TAC videos I got this weird feeling tha tmaybe the Elk Shape guys and MFJJ had had a little falling out so... awesome to see you guys back together giving us this great look at one hell of a new bow. I bought a V3X 33 last year and while I'd love to try the new Phase 4 I'm still so incredibly in love with the V3X... although I could see wanting a P4 29" LOL. My wallet hates me.
The man cave is epic in every way.
For me at 6’ 255lbs with a 29.5 in draw the 33 is the one I would definitely go with. I have only had two bows in my 39 years of life and they both are 33 ATA bows. 😎🏹
Your body weight has nothing to do with anything but you must be really proud of that BMI 😂
@@Cody_Austin I know that it doesn’t, even though a bigger guy is usually more broad across the chest than a 175 lb guy of the same height.
No I need and want to lose 30 lbs.
@@Cody_Austinno need to be a dick
Hay Dan I noticed you tied your rest cord to your cable but never had before was just wondering how you like that? If you notice any abnormal noise or wear? Thx loving the new bows that came out but for now I’m going to stick with my vxr until I can afford a new one. Keep up the great content.
Still rocking the VXR. I love the V3X and I hear you about the Phase 4 and why it’s better. For those of us that do not get a new bow every year. Would you have any concerns about having 8 limbs or wear and tear on the rubber between the limbs? Also I’ve heard great things about GAS my local shop however will only use ABB strings. They also won’t do trade ins on used bows. Need some insight if you don’t mind.
Kudos for being able to say this stuff 😂with a straight face. I have shot both (I own a V3X) and there is NO discernable difference. Now if you have an older bow this is a great upgrade but to say its an upgrade to the V3X is well hilarious.
You are entitled to your opinion. -Dan
Patrick, I still can't really tell a difference from the triax 🤣
Can you use the stay at field cable to swap out new strings/cables?
Pretty good upgrades I must admit well done to Mathew’s thanks for your opinions guys appreciate you ❤👍🤘🤙👊
Have any you boys running the epsilon rest had issues with the cord catching on the Mathews quiver? It’s only happened a few times to me. Twice I notice it and fixed it. Once I didn’t and when I shot it sent my arrow almost straight into the dirt.
And heavier arrows can quiet down a bow as well. Is that a factor that doesn't get factored?
What’s your string color combo on the 29? What brand are they?
Peanut butter and jelly or elk steak and potatoes you guys are work great together and apart key works in the video relationship hahaha
Who is the seahawks fan? Couldn't help but notice the coffee cup and flag. Also new bow is sweet but I say that every year. Until I see a major change/upgrade though. I will keep shooting my helim which is still my favorite!
Are the TOP hats the same as the old bows ? thx
Where can we find the podcast at where you spoke with the mathews engineer?
Nice work guys. I’d just point out that the D loop length has nothing to do with the draw length of the bow. Big miss conception that if you shoot a short loop or short neck release that your bows draw length should change.
What length stabalizers are you running on your 29 and 33?
I wish they would make these new bows in a bit longer draw
Hello from va. If the limb pockets are the same can you order these limbs and put them on a v3x ? 😈
Saw a comment on one of mfjj’s last videos regarding how well the rubber between the limbs will hold up over time. Interested to see an update after a year. Love the content brother. Cheers🥂
About as well as the rubber on your engine mounts hold up on your truck. I have never changed one on any of my vehicles. If rubber holds up to that abuse putting in bow limbs won’t be a problem.
Just changed my strings and cables last night yes take pictures lol
Has anyone heard word about any long draw bows coming out? If not from Matthews then who else this year?
I wonder how long that rubber between the limbs will last, especially for the guys who shoot a ton in all conditions.
It’s a valid question.. we have no way to know until we get down the road
@@ElkShape is the rubber just pressed in between the limbs or is glued to the limbs then pressed? Do you happen to know that?
Certainly this topic must have been covered in the podcast with Mathews.
I wonder if it will shoot the same on a January hunt that is 0 degrees as it did on a August practice session. From the reviews everyone talks about quietness and deadness. No one sponsored by Mathews says anything about it being the most accurate bow to date.
@@hunterdolanch8725 I believe it will be just as accurate….no part of the pressure is put on the rubber, it is put on the limbs, cams, strings, cables etc….the rubber is for dampening the sound of the shot.
Interested to hear yours and MFJJ’s opinion on pricing for the stabilizer set up.. $700 is a steep price for the blue collar crowd.
It is higher end. You can still go traditional route
I just picked mine up a few minutes ago. Any clue if V3X-33 strings will fit on PH4-33?
My question was answered at 0:38 lol
(Yes they fit)
Rattlecan one of them!!!
I think I’m fixing to (tc)
@@ElkShape I thought the rattlecan 28 was sexy. I just rattlecanned my rifle and muzzleloader and they turned out awesome. Too scared to do it to the bow... yet... so I'll live vicariously through you haha. Great content guys.
This is the opinion from a happy V3 owner….
They are all the same. Mathew’s has made marginal changes and additions each year. Normally that makes for a drastically different product 4,5,6 years down the road. However, the VXR, V3, V3X and now the Phase 4 are essentially the same bow. They’ve said so themselves… same cams. same axle to axle (+,- an inch or so) same speeds (advertised) same weight. Same tuning system. Currently we are advertising this is quieter with the inline system… but no data other than “it seems like it, cuz I shot next to a guy and his was louder”
I love my Mathew’s but personally don’t see a reason to get a new one every year as the average archer/hunter. The amount of time to set the bow up correctly. allow the strings to settle in. Tune each arrow for the bow, sight in pins, sight in sight tape, re-sight in pins and sight tapes once the bow shoots in. Re-tune the bow cuz your strings have stretched, etc. It just doesn’t make sense chasing your tail like that year after year.
Until Mathew’s can sell a bow that you don’t have to immediately swap out the strings on, increase the speed, or increase the poundage, change the material to carbon or something drastic like that. At this point there doesn’t seem like an advantage to buying a new one. The average, above average hunter/ shooter who shoots more than 1 but less than 100 arrows each day would be better suited knowing all the intricacies and behaviors of his current set up rather than buying new just to spend twice as much on a new stabilizer.
Why did you put a quiver on your 33 if it’s a target bow for you?
Saw you mention that the sight extension showed your torque so you bring it way in....brother that doesn't eliminate the torque it just eliminates your ability to see it.
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That was my first concern in how is the rubber between the limbs gonna hold up after a couple seasons hunting in different elements?
Won’t know until we use them
What is a problem with all manufacturers across the board, is pricing the phase 4 with all the Mathews accessories. You’re looking at close to 3 grand or more depending on how you set up your bow. They need to remember who the majority of there customers are. And with hunting property becoming harder to acquire. And rising inflation how many are going to drop that kind of money on a bow. I have a v3x 33 as well as two Mathews vertix. So no need for a phase 4 here. This year I am going to try one of bears models priced with the average hunter in mind. Put some good strings and cables and accessories on it and see how it performs. No reason to have to spend what they are wanting for these bows.
Heavy arrows help with keeping your bow quite and I know Josh love's using really heavy arrows because lite arrows won't go through shoulder bones, I think he said a minimum weight of 700gpi or something like that ¿
So I have a 26” draw and shot this bow yesterday side by side with the rx7 and noticed that the Mathews peak weight is in the mid to end of my draw cycle and the Hoyt was in the beginning. Both set at 70 pounds I couldn’t even draw the Mathews back. That something you experienced too?
That’s generally how Mathew’s makes their bows and how Hoyt make their bows
Just seems like Matthew’s isn’t geared to the shorter draw people. It’s definitely a noticeable difference because I can’t get much leverage so far back in the cycle to pull the cams over. Love just about everything else about them but that cycle is killing it for me
“I don’t watch football anymore.” I hear that, I don’t know if our reasons are the same but probably are.
I would seriously pay to be taught how to make strings by mfjj
Why so expensive tho?? 250 for a quiver, 250 for stabilizer... hard pass
Whats the specs on your Gas strings?
Color, etc
I think in a previous video he said he got the Ghost strings from GAS
I don’t mean to be controversial, but having less sound and vibration make a difference in real world hunting applications? This is a genuine question. Last year Mike’s Archery tested almost all the major brand bows with a decibel meter. The V3X was 91 and I believe the Hoyt was 97. Did Mathew’s bows kill more animals because they were quieter?
No they killed more animals because they sold three times as many bows.
Honestly I think this new bow is lit. Doesn’t matter, I like the design. I think people are just reluctant to buy another bow but if you were a cave man and someone handed you this bow you would be stoked!!!
They need to do rotating modules. Everyone else is doing it and saves money, instead of having to buy modules
I like how you say it’s impossible to be inaccurate 😂 but we still shoot dirt
Dear MFJJ. Please put a black Phase 4 on your eBay store so I can use Klarna to purchase it. Thank you. 😅🙏
So if Tim dry fires this year, his limbs are gonna be more prone to blowing up. Timmy, beware. Haha
Was making fun of tim and i pulled back at a 3d shoot but didnt dry fire haha i just immediately thought of tim and laughed
@@Mackahroney yeah. It happens haha
ill give it to Mathews, they have the best marketing in the industry....lol. they will convince people in droves to believe their BS.
Hope MFJJ picks me for the phase 4 33 giveaway on his channel. I need a new bow.
Long story short.... just take it to MFJJ
Lol , rubber coating between limbs , won't hold up in Ga. weather
Where is his bow shop located? Like to order a bow from him.
Spokane Washington
All these people complaining about these bows who have never held let alone shot one. Want bow companies to come up with a totally different design every year. Folks those days are over. All the top manufacturers are doing the same thing making small incremental improvements on proven platforms. Look at Hoyt’s innovation this year the came out with monkey tails. Mathews is the only bow on the planet you can shoot from 60 to 75 pounds without touching a limb bolt. So you can keep your limbs bottomed out where you’re bow is most efficient. With the switch weight mods you can change your draw weight, length, and let off. No cheesy little rotating mods. And stops you have to move. The top hat system is bullet proof and once it’s set it cannot move unlike other manufacturers. Please look at how many little 5 cent spacers are between the cam and limbs on other bows. Worse than that try changing out a cam on one so you can see what a pia it is. It will make you love top hats. Look at the resale value on a Mathews compared to other used bows. If it’s not Mathews or Hoyt you can’t hardly give them away. Mathews is still leading the game in every category. If you want rotating mods and super adjustable bows. Mathews puts those where they belong on there mission youth bows.
The new stabilizer situation is a gimmick for most of us poors. I can get an entire bar setup for the cost of one of their stabs.
ABT
So dead and quiet, yet you are obliged to spend $500 on stabilizers for full effect.
Mathew’s needs mor adjustability
Bowtech is the company making real innovations in tuning and tech. With that opinion said, Seahawks this year are very enjoyable to watch. Good riddance to Russ.
Faster speeds, different grip angle, different cams, different riser design??? Anyone of these, and they literally made a V3 2.0
Team Mathews, we're (hunters and archers alike) all behind you, but this seems like a flop. We LOVE the product you put out, but some diversity would be nice
Does it go 400 fps? If not don't care.
This year was a total dud. I’m waiting for new cams since Mathews is about a decade behind on their cams. Frankly, mathews is in the business of selling accessories and not bows at this point.
someone’s pressed lol
So their bows are plenty fast and shoot smooth how are they behind on their cams if the bow is one of if not the best shooting bows out, sales dont lie buddy they outsell everyone else by a long shot
I liked this year's bow. I am 15 and and getting the 2023 mathews image. It draws back and shoots a lot smother that the v3x 29. I tested a demo and got one ordered. Can't wait!!!
I agree 💯 bro
dude mathews is the makes the best bow on the planet. they are the best bow company because they have the such a good warranty. the bows are practically made out of diamond they are so tough. i encourage you to go shoot the v3x and phase 4. when you are done come back and apologize for jumping the gun and bashing mathews. ps you probably shoot darton
I just got the mathews phase 4 33 in ambush green while I was there I also shot the v3x I went in thinking I was buying the v3x but once I shot the phase 4 after the v3x I was sold it is definitely noticeable shooting one right after another in my opinion great bow !
Glad you’re enjoying!
Wake up call! The bear kuma rested by Sean’s outdoor adventures was 74 dB and this is 92dB , where is the progress ? Your having the wool pulled over your eyes and ears
Hello from va. If the limb pockets are the same can you order these limbs and put them on a v3x ? 😈