Massad Ayoob - Don't be the Aggressor. The Ahmaud Arbery Case - Critical Mas episode 26

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  • Massad Ayoob has years of experience in the courtroom as an expert witness. He offers his unique perspective into the Ahmaud Arbery case in Georgia. Travis McMichael, Gregory McMichael and William "Roddie" Bryan had extremely problematic issues with how they handled the situation that day. Massad warns gun owners not to be the initial aggressor. Mas says "The totality of the circumstances, motive and rational, all those things come together and have to for those who carry firearms"
    Reflections on the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
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    Critical Mas(s) with Massad Ayoob is a show that provides expert analysis over a wide range of contemporaneous topics related to civilian and law enforcement self defense, the use of force, and second amendment issues, provided by a renowned and established author with a career spanning decades in training law enforcement officers and the public at large, who is frequently called upon to provide expert witness testimony.
    ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
    Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
    The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several state and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught
    for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
    Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has
    appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two
    years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
    0:00 - Don't be the initial aggressor
    0:40 - Ahmaud Arbery "The Jogger"
    1:55 - Gregory & Travis McMichael
    2:35 - The Recording
    3:40 - Misunderstandings
    4:20 - Totality of the Circumstances
    4:55 - They did not Witness the Crime
    5:25 - State of Mind
    6:00 - Concurrent Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
    6:50 - Stay Back and Call the Police
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  • @seventy2south886
    @seventy2south886 2 роки тому +244

    If one man should be a professor of gun education it's Massad. Much respect for this man

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 2 роки тому +6

      Massad Ayoob & Jeff Cooper, and Elmer Keith, The Three Men I admire most.
      And Dan Johnson, of Guns & Ammo....

    • @bruce5168
      @bruce5168 2 роки тому

      Massad's books are excellent too👍

    • @shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965
      @shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965 Рік тому

      Why cause he was a pig?

    • @shawndashno6022
      @shawndashno6022 Рік тому

      This man is a National Treasure. A knowledge fountain, and just a well rounded, intelligent individual. This man gets, and rightfully deserves, a lot of respect. Perfectly articulate and concise.

  • @yqwgjsg
    @yqwgjsg 2 роки тому +337

    I still remember two distinct things my TBI firearms instructor told us in a carry class. Just because you are armed doesn’t make you the police. You can use your weapon in your defense or the defense of loved ones or innocents but otherwise stay out of the conflict. The other thing was if you instigated a fight, you cannot use your weapon even if the fight starts to go bad for you. Anti gunners don’t understand that we leave the house armed, the very last thing we want is to get into a conflict. No bird flipping, no yelling and cussing. Since we are armed the results could be fatal. In that respect we are the safest people in the country.

    • @militustoica
      @militustoica 2 роки тому +28

      Those of us with a sense of ethical and lawful responsibility, anyhow. Can’t say the same for every person who leaves the house with a pistol tucked into their waistband.

    • @frostyjhammer
      @frostyjhammer 2 роки тому +21

      This is how I interpret "An armed society is a polite society".

    • @nmr6988
      @nmr6988 2 роки тому +6

      @Bruce Day, I just had this discussion with a friend. But in the end, you must wisely and tactically judge each situation on its urgency and its merits.

    • @filtonkingswood
      @filtonkingswood 2 роки тому +3

      An armed society is a polite society…. Mostly

    • @michaelgarrow3239
      @michaelgarrow3239 2 роки тому +1

      I agree. Same thing happened to me when I was carrying back in the day.
      Mr Polite.

  • @davidsisson5976
    @davidsisson5976 2 роки тому +249

    I often change my opinion about stories like this after listening to Massad calmly and clearly bring reason, logic and facts to his well written presentation. Grateful.

    • @willrowell3218
      @willrowell3218 2 роки тому +12

      He really does do an EXTREMELY good job of giving an unbiased view of what exactly happened.

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 2 роки тому +10

      I am proud to call Massad Ayoob friend,
      My late Father really admired him as do I.
      Massad Ayoobs books are an important read for anyone defending themselves against attack.
      A great education.
      **"In the gravest extreme."**
      If You wish to avoid Prison time.

    • @throatpunch4789
      @throatpunch4789 2 роки тому

      Thats why we dont take what the media says as fact

    • @thomasbaker9787
      @thomasbaker9787 2 роки тому

      That's the first book I read when I started to carry!
      As far as people like Aubrey... this was an unfortunate event... but I still believe we have to do something about these idiots... the law is broken and not effective anymore! When feckless people allow our society to be overrun by criminals we have to do something 😒

    • @daddybeagleaz907
      @daddybeagleaz907 2 роки тому +3

      @@carminemurray6624 The Truth About Self Protection is another really good one, I'd maybe have Mas update both though.

  • @nathanstrickland6508
    @nathanstrickland6508 2 роки тому +108

    If you take on the responsibility to carry a gun. You must do everything in your power to not get in a fight. It is an absolute last resort to pull that firearm.

    • @reubenmorris487
      @reubenmorris487 2 роки тому +7

      Rittenhouse did not do everything to avoid a fight.

    • @Ju5-I-S0m36UY
      @Ju5-I-S0m36UY 2 роки тому +5

      @@reubenmorris487 he tried running in the opposite direction that’s about the most you can do

    • @mobass48
      @mobass48 2 роки тому

      I absolutely Agree!!

    • @willstearn3052
      @willstearn3052 2 роки тому +3

      @@reubenmorris487 THE video I watched he was running away from a MOB yelling KILL HIM. Wat video did u watch??

    • @orobas8080
      @orobas8080 2 роки тому

      @@reubenmorris487 He ran away from his attackers but was chased down by men faster than him.

  • @nicholaskuzmak6574
    @nicholaskuzmak6574 2 роки тому +55

    As a gun owner, thank you for taking the time to clearly and concisely analyze these cases. Very intelligent and in language everyone can understand.

  • @seanomeirs8362
    @seanomeirs8362 2 роки тому +62

    A few months ago, a man who was seen on numerous home surveillance cameras in my neighborhood, and a known burglar, walked by my house at dusk, while I was watering my front yard. I called law enforcement, and they caught him a few hours later. My neighbor gave me a hard time, and asked me why I didn't shoot him.
    Let law enforcement do their job. It took dozens of officers, dogs, and helicopters to get the guy.

    • @stevealexander8010
      @stevealexander8010 2 роки тому +9

      Sean Omeirs - you did exactly the right thing. You can't use deadly force unless you (or some innocent) are at imminent risk of serious bodily injury or death. If you shot someone for being a *suspect* in burglary - the you would certainly face murder charges. M.Ayoobs other vids cover this.

    • @seanomeirs8362
      @seanomeirs8362 2 роки тому +10

      @@stevealexander8010 Thanks. I'm shocked at the behavior of neighbors, who are otherwise good neighbors, when they think that they can take the law into their own hands. This guy was carrying an AK at his side when he walked past me. I don't know if he knew I was was there, but he didn't threaten me. I don't want a bunch of drunk LARPers, sending bullets into the neighborhood. There are a lot of new gun owners who haven't thought about the responsibility of using their weapons without the proper training and mindset. It's taken me 45 years to know what I know, and there is always more that I am willing to learn.

    • @stevealexander8010
      @stevealexander8010 2 роки тому +4

      @@seanomeirs8362 I think it's partly ignorance. Ppl haven't really thought about it. Of course the time to think is BEFORE you act foolishly. I learned some in a concealed carry course & some online matter, but Ayood has a great vid where he discusses 'Black's law, and it's meaning.

    • @zoticus1
      @zoticus1 2 роки тому +2

      @@seanomeirs8362 what was the man's crime?

    • @seanomeirs8362
      @seanomeirs8362 2 роки тому +4

      @@zoticus1 He wad identified on many home security cameras committing burglaries, and he hadn't harmed anyone physically. He had however stolen firearms, and he was carrying an AK, when he walked past my house at night.

  • @hkentw
    @hkentw 2 роки тому +11

    Thank you Mr. Ayoob. It's a blessing to hear a sane voice.

  • @P.HATHCOX
    @P.HATHCOX 2 роки тому +18

    I remember hearing about this case when it was in the news but I was not aware of all of the facts (the racially changed social media posts, the comment about shooting the deceased's head off etc). Thank you for filling in some of those blanks.
    Even though I didn't know EVERYTHING about the case back then I still knew it was foolish to grab a weapon and chase someone down over property crimes. As you said, don't be the aggressor, just call the authorities and let them handle it.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 2 роки тому +28

    Brilliant and insightful analysis as always! It should be required viewing in all self-defense classes!

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 2 роки тому +6

    I started reading Massad's articles in magazines and books back in 1978 when I was 14. I learned so much over those formative years from him and Jeff Cooper. Thanks for everything over the years.

    • @gowilsoncombat
      @gowilsoncombat  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @craigfelter
      @craigfelter Рік тому

      Jeff Cooper's blatant racism disgraced himself, and even worse, disgraced The Corps. Marines are supposed to be better. Even in his day.

  • @johnbravo1005
    @johnbravo1005 2 роки тому +20

    You should have this talk with 90% of law enforcement officers. The love to escalate situations thinking that they are superior to the citizens

    • @mohr4less
      @mohr4less 8 місяців тому +6

      He wont. He’s an ex-cop and will defend them as they all defend each other in the face of crimes and cruelty.

    • @TheRealTurkFebruary
      @TheRealTurkFebruary 8 місяців тому

      American police are really just the sixth family of the Mafia.

    • @sjdhgydhfyrn1023
      @sjdhgydhfyrn1023 7 місяців тому +1

      Except that LEOs literally do have legal authority that non-LEOs don’t.
      Another l ibtard.

  • @Sourpusscandy
    @Sourpusscandy 2 роки тому +69

    Don’t be the aggressor, but be wise, people will lie and falsely accuse you.

    • @HomelessOnline
      @HomelessOnline 2 роки тому

      Yes, particularly the DA who wants to throw the rest of your life away so he can run for higher office. The DA in the Rittenhouse trial is a crooked liar, as we all saw.

    • @50srefugee
      @50srefugee Рік тому

      ESPECIALLY the kinds of people you might have to defend yourself or others from. There's damn good reasons that the cops are the way they are. And they still manage, most of the time, to be reasonably courteous to citizens who offer courtesy in return.

  • @fsusarge
    @fsusarge 2 роки тому +5

    "Don't Be The Agressor"....simpler and truer words have seldom, if ever, been spoken.

  • @mcjon77
    @mcjon77 2 роки тому +34

    Just to remind people of what Massad means when he says "serving very long sentences". The McMichael's Father and son Duo are both doing life with no parole in a Georgia state penitentiary. Roddie Bryan has a life sentence that he has to do a minimum of 30 years on. He is 52. They are done.

    • @show2ime
      @show2ime 2 роки тому

      The racist bastards should have got the death penalty.

    • @russellweber3466
      @russellweber3466 2 роки тому +10

      They never should have been charged, but given citizens of the year.

    • @daddybeagleaz907
      @daddybeagleaz907 2 роки тому +18

      They should have simply called it in

    • @jsr-uz3oj
      @jsr-uz3oj 2 роки тому +3

      My biggest issue is that Arbery tried to take the shotgun away and was much bigger trying to take a shotgun away from a man is stupid and he can't say that he feared for his life this happened in daylight in a neighborhood surrounded by houses but the jury had to convict them or they would have had death threats. And Police officers are not out to kill black people if they were they wouldn't do it while on video and regardless of race resisting arrest will get you more trouble.

    • @russellweber3466
      @russellweber3466 2 роки тому

      @@jsr-uz3oj If the convicted felon druggie who got caught stealing had got it's paws on a gun, the 3 white Christian men would have been murdered in cold blood.

  • @EdwardJanuska
    @EdwardJanuska 2 роки тому +48

    When I read Massads book where he described the Zimmerman case in Sanford FL I was amazed how much of the story was hidden from the public.

    • @nmr6988
      @nmr6988 2 роки тому +10

      Okay, now I want to read that book. I knew that Zimmerman was assassinated by the liberal media but learning what Mas had to say would be great.

    • @stevewhisperer6609
      @stevewhisperer6609 2 роки тому +1

      No surprise there, really.
      The wonderfully 'objective' media in this country typically only show the juicy parts of a given video.. to rile up and turn the public against each other while boosting the ratings of the media at the same time.
      Rodney King, anyone? Mas has spoken about that incident as well.

    • @Sercer25
      @Sercer25 2 роки тому

      @@nmr6988 Remember they made Zimmerman out to be white in his pictures and during coverage of the story. The media targets whites and convinces non-whites to target whites also.

    • @azure8696
      @azure8696 2 роки тому +3

      What's the book called?

    • @jeffholm3503
      @jeffholm3503 2 роки тому +9

      @@azure8696 Deadly Force, Understanding Your Right to Self Defense

  • @RomeoEdward
    @RomeoEdward 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you Massad, your knowledge of these matters helps all of us do the right thing.

  • @DM-pl8mz
    @DM-pl8mz 2 роки тому +9

    Dear Mr. Ayoob
    Your book " In the gravest extreme" is a must read for any firearm owner. Thank you sir. The advice contained is the gold standard of self defense. 🛡️

    • @nmr6988
      @nmr6988 2 роки тому

      Thank you for recommending his book. I am definitely going to purchase it now.

    • @ScrappyXGC
      @ScrappyXGC 2 роки тому

      Back when I was training new carriers, I wouldn't sit down with them unless they'd read "In The Gravest Extreme". Just wouldn't begin, that book raises questions about why, and the beginning of the sit down we had to start talking about why. NOT What ifs

    • @ScrappyXGC
      @ScrappyXGC 2 роки тому

      @@nmr6988 Get it while you still can, I'd lent several, they don't seem to come back.

    • @nmr6988
      @nmr6988 2 роки тому

      @@ScrappyXGC I will take your advice!

  • @victorp9649
    @victorp9649 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you Mas for being a voice of reason and clarity on a very complex and emotional topic.

  • @KD-lb9bg
    @KD-lb9bg 2 роки тому +10

    If the fight comes to you, defend you and yours, don’t chase down a fight.

    • @elimgarak1127
      @elimgarak1127 Рік тому

      Spoken like a true licker of boot. The law is laughable in this regard and should be ignored, repealed and never enforced again. This is no different than waiting for the police to come and save you. Avoid what you can, finish what you can. This consistent need for self defense advocates wanting to walk a legal tightrope is getting fucking retarded.

  • @time4anewsystem452
    @time4anewsystem452 2 роки тому +6

    I remember this incident. Wise words from a VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE MAN

  • @russellnichols5746
    @russellnichols5746 2 роки тому +6

    I want to take a second and thank you for your insight and sharing what you've learned. I find it very sound, and valuable instruction. You're making me a much safer firearms handler. Thank you.

  • @lwilson1234
    @lwilson1234 2 роки тому +6

    Excellent layout as usual. I've been reading your article voraciously for decades. This is a case in what you absolutely SHOULD NOT do in any similar circumstances.

  • @andrewdavis146
    @andrewdavis146 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video and all the others.

  • @wdussery5513
    @wdussery5513 Рік тому +1

    I'm so glad I found this channel. Clear, detailed, complete explanations. Thank you

  • @butcho7492
    @butcho7492 2 роки тому +4

    Hey Mas- I can't wait for your take on the Uvalde shooting,

    • @zedsdeadbaby
      @zedsdeadbaby Рік тому

      He's not going to touch that subject with a bargepole. Police failed to do their jobs. Simple as that.

  • @slowhand1198
    @slowhand1198 2 роки тому +5

    Wise insights, as we expect from Mas.

  • @TM-ne9ig
    @TM-ne9ig 2 роки тому +3

    I continue to be impressed by this series that WC sponsors. Especially when it comes to dissecting the legalities, ramifications, and usage of firearms in actual events. Don't be the aggressor is a very fitting title and takeaway for this tragic, and very preventable event. Sounds like Mr. Ayoob has plenty of material for a Volume II to "In The Gravest Extreme", which is prominently placed on my bookshelf.

  • @DE-ef3xd
    @DE-ef3xd 2 роки тому +1

    One of the best channels on UA-cam. Appreciate the education.

  • @mike6252
    @mike6252 2 роки тому +28

    Very well explained and articulated sir. I’d like to suggest an analysis of the Kyle Carruth/Chad Read shooting.

    • @KCBluesJams
      @KCBluesJams 2 роки тому

      The man was murdered this isn’t the Wild West anymore this whole castle doctrine stand your ground crap needs to be reined in👍

    • @wheelguns4wheelmen802
      @wheelguns4wheelmen802 2 роки тому +3

      Yes, a special grand jury chose not to indict, but to me Mr. Carruth (even if not guilty of murder/manslaughter due to subsequent actions of Chad Read) committed, at a minimum assault or disturbing the peace etc... and was not justified in shooting Mr. Read in my opinion.

    • @KCBluesJams
      @KCBluesJams 2 роки тому +3

      @@wheelguns4wheelmen802 Mr Carruth is exactly the kind of person that shouldn’t be allowed to own firearms. Small man syndrome feels like a tough guy with a firearm 👶😈

    • @JK-co4lz
      @JK-co4lz 2 роки тому

      Alternatively, Mr. Read should not have closed the distance and provoked an armed person. Most reasonable people would not challenge someone that is rightfully on their property, and you were asked to leave. I think Mr. Carruth was justified once Mr. Read closed the distance. It showed that they were dealing with an unreasonable, even crazy, individual. Either way, sad loss of life that didn't need to be.

    • @KCBluesJams
      @KCBluesJams 2 роки тому

      @@JK-co4lz he was trying to pick up his kid 👦 the crazy one was the little 😿that went and got a rifle and shot him simp ,you gun nuts are unbelievable 👎.

  • @mytake7436
    @mytake7436 2 роки тому +7

    Thank you for another great lesson

  • @LeviathantheMighty
    @LeviathantheMighty 2 роки тому +31

    You're helping people so much, thanks!
    Almost all Hollywood shows, that have guns, will have someone point a gun at someone else for almost no reason. It has to stop. People think that's ok, but then they go to prison.
    Hollywood is super toxic and anti gun.

    • @patrickbly4170
      @patrickbly4170 2 роки тому +1

      Video games ?

    • @LeviathantheMighty
      @LeviathantheMighty 2 роки тому

      @@patrickbly4170 I really don't think video games harm people.
      But I hate it when Hollywood shows people casually pointing guns at people for the stupidest reasons, like it's not super illegal or threatening or wrong in every way. Then the other person acts like it was no big deal.
      I knew of a guy who went to jail for many years for firing a warning shot, even though he should have shot the predatory person.

    • @jhask64
      @jhask64 2 роки тому +2

      Video games do have a harmful impact. The innocent video games most illude to are called simulators by our military. Used for training. They definitely affect the minds of some youth.

    • @LeviathantheMighty
      @LeviathantheMighty 2 роки тому +1

      @@jhask64 Those youth are damaged by bad culture or upbringing or genetics.
      They're the type who can't handle heavy metal, rap, r rated movies, stories, rejection from a girl, etc.
      I've played violent video games where you can do whatever you want, they're not bad.
      Blaming the games is weak and it shirks responsibility, and what's the solution? Ban them? That makes things worse.

  • @computerguy9111
    @computerguy9111 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for stating so clearly what people need to understand.

  • @stoehrcov
    @stoehrcov 2 роки тому +1

    That was an excellent assignment and put it in terms that I could understand.
    Thank you

  • @mentplc
    @mentplc 2 роки тому

    Always a treat to hear you sir. 🙏

  • @mikechampion1614
    @mikechampion1614 2 роки тому +13

    I have taken multiple classes. The majority have been retired law enforcement. Among the common points stressed.(especially CCW class) if you use deadly force.and it turns out you misread the situation. You are probably going to have even more serious legal problems.than if it's a clear self defense.which can easily get complicated and change your life forever.
    Another line a retired police officer used. "If you are carrying for personal protection. Keep the ego in check."don't look or act like a predator as well"

    • @kennethboehnen271
      @kennethboehnen271 Рік тому

      Like Rittenhouse did. He was out looking for trouble and found it.

    • @elimgarak1127
      @elimgarak1127 Рік тому

      Sounds like the law is the problem and it should change. Drastically.

  • @henryanona1640
    @henryanona1640 2 роки тому +5

    Your analysis is spot on. I'd like to hear more of your analysis of shootings like this when they happen.

  • @gringling57
    @gringling57 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for sharing the most valuable thing on the planet. Knowledge.💪

  • @survivingchicago5797
    @survivingchicago5797 2 роки тому +2

    I can’t speak for a living in a rural area but I can definitely say something about living in a big city. carrying a weapon doesn’t make you Bat Masterson in the service of king Arthur’s court, the weapon you carry is only to protect you and yours that’s it nobody else!!! you see a store being robbed you call 911, you come across a woman being beat up by her boyfriend you call 911, you see somebody getting carjacked you call 911, you see a group of people get into a gun fight you run like hell and call 911, the neighbors are playing loud music you call 911, you’re on the road and someone is having road rage you call 911, anything that resembles a confrontation you make sure to be the first to call 911!!!!
    anytime anyone wants to have an argument with you for any reason you put your head down and walk away as you’re calling 911!!!! whenever you want to go out with the boys and have a few drinks then guess what, your weapon is not invited to the party! sorry, if something goes down and you have liquor in your system then your lawyer is going to be talking about plea deals. and get that crazy idea out of your head that you could use your weapon to defend your property; we no longer live in the days of hanging horse thieves. the only time you pull your weapon is if you are in total fear of death or “severe”bodily harm!!! someone slapping you it’s not death or “severe” bodily harm, someone pushing you to the ground is not death or “severe” bodily harm did you notice the word “severe”? In closing if you choose to carry a weapon then you better keep your mouth shut and mind your own damn business!!!!

  • @dgross8906
    @dgross8906 Рік тому +1

    Excellent research- thanks! Keep em coming

  • @bruceedwards2069
    @bruceedwards2069 7 місяців тому

    THANK YOU FOR BRINGING AMERICA TO PLAIN TRUTH

  • @stansdds
    @stansdds 2 роки тому +2

    Well said!

  • @ctsnider88
    @ctsnider88 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the review

  • @jimd8008
    @jimd8008 2 роки тому +2

    As always thank you for your perspective.

  • @terrygrossmann2295
    @terrygrossmann2295 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you very much for your assistance. You speak with knowledge and experience.

  • @2004ranger1
    @2004ranger1 2 роки тому +4

    I am glad to see someone explain the difference between these 2 cases.
    And use what the law is when it is applied ,both in the lawful way and what some precise as lawful.
    This should give the viewer a much cleared answer . Especially if they are put in similar situations.. keep up the good fact and teaching to the viewers and educate them.

  • @rammuchewicz8045
    @rammuchewicz8045 2 роки тому +8

    My brain had simply glossed over the original pursuit as having an error. You have brought a thankful clarity to the event.
    To provoke further conversation about the Rittenhouse saga. . . To date Gaige Grosskruetz has yet to be charged with attempted murder. . . Thoughts?

    • @ScrappyXGC
      @ScrappyXGC 2 роки тому +1

      Gaige has got to be protected by someone. He's a provocateur, so I'm guessing he's useful to the feds.

    • @rammuchewicz8045
      @rammuchewicz8045 2 роки тому +1

      @@ScrappyXGC, Department by department,
      our government seems to have been compromised against the very people
      it has sworn to serve.

    • @bryonslatten3147
      @bryonslatten3147 2 роки тому +1

      He’s a lefty criminal so he’ll never face charges.

  • @emandejnozka1369
    @emandejnozka1369 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you, Massad. I’ve been a student of yours for decades. Today, every move one makes; every breath one takes is monitored and likely recorded. Personal mental, emotional and physical expression MUST be pre calculated and ETHICALLY motivated. Otherwise one will find themselves in deep doo-doo.

  • @CombatWombatQRF
    @CombatWombatQRF 2 роки тому

    Great job sorting things out here; any loss of life is regrettable but we also have to acknowledge differences in circumstances. These are great reminders to think through actions before we take them.

  • @cgsimons1187
    @cgsimons1187 2 роки тому +5

    Another thing to keep in mind is that the things you say can oftentimes get you into more trouble than what you do.

    • @charmainedwards4278
      @charmainedwards4278 2 роки тому

      Right! The men had so much to say to the police. In particular the older man who told police that he td AA to stop or he would blow his fucking head off.
      Ironically the older man was quite as a church mouse during the trial.

  • @ect2012cool
    @ect2012cool 2 роки тому +12

    I agree with your analysis, Massad!

  • @drpuritan
    @drpuritan 2 роки тому

    Mr. Ayoob--one of a kind! Thanks for your long-term instruction and example.

  • @dwfantom5892
    @dwfantom5892 Рік тому

    One is bound to be all the wiser if Massad’s videos are watched and watched again.. so much wisdom and knowledge flows from him.

  • @lyfandeth
    @lyfandeth 2 роки тому +3

    Clear, concise, and rational.

  • @kubikariYOU
    @kubikariYOU 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge and opinion. Both are very valuable and appreciated.

  • @rubenjimenez5213
    @rubenjimenez5213 2 роки тому +1

    Another awesone video, much redpect, keep up the good work💪💪👍👍

  • @michaelcrafton9821
    @michaelcrafton9821 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this educational video. I hope it will contribute to helping people make good decisions.

  • @jtsheppard4787
    @jtsheppard4787 11 місяців тому

    Great post thank you Wilson.

  • @rgalbert63
    @rgalbert63 2 роки тому

    Outstanding content. Thank you!

  • @mr.c2763
    @mr.c2763 2 роки тому

    Good video and I enjoyed reading your articles over the years, in firearm and self defense magazines.

  • @celmer6
    @celmer6 2 роки тому +2

    Another great video Mas. We are definitely living in interesting times. Y'all keep up the good work.

  • @chuckoaks6756
    @chuckoaks6756 2 роки тому +18

    I didn't catch how that one had turned out but it seems pretty easy that you don't chase a guy down for a fight. If you're the good guy, that is.

    • @bbtfan7957
      @bbtfan7957 2 роки тому +11

      Right. And that's the difference between these three and Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle didn't chase anyone, he was the one being chased.

  • @jstpsgthru
    @jstpsgthru 2 роки тому +19

    I hope you will refer to things that many of us already know. I find the Law of Self Defense rules easy to understand. Innocence is the first of these rules, but a concept that might be a little less firm is regaining innocence. On our bad days, we all have the potential for calling out stupidity. Preventing a possible charge for a related fight or regaining our right to self defense may mean apologizing and withdrawing from the conflict. Also, be the first to call the police.

    • @mikechampion1614
      @mikechampion1614 2 роки тому

      Pride and Anger can get you in enough trouble. without a weapon being involved.
      Even if you are in the right
      Adding a weapon to mix is a totally different and bigger animal.

  • @anthonyf.9170
    @anthonyf.9170 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you sir for this very thoughtful insight. It is extremely important.

  • @shammusomalley8986
    @shammusomalley8986 2 роки тому +2

    I appreciate your experience and sound advice

  • @Bateluer
    @Bateluer 2 роки тому +47

    Despite all the racial angles in this case, I figured they'd be convicted solely on the fact that they chased Arbery in a truck. In the Rittenhouse case, you couldn't have made a better argument for self defense if you were writing a script for a legal drama.

    • @KCBluesJams
      @KCBluesJams 2 роки тому +14

      Rittenhouse should have left the area he was acting as a vigilante there was no reason for him to be in the position he put himself in 👍

    • @Bateluer
      @Bateluer 2 роки тому +23

      @@KCBluesJams He wasn't acting as a vigilante. He lived and worked in the area. As experts have said, his was a textbook case of self defense.
      Side note though, the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. There wouldn't have been any riots if every resident of Kenosha showed up with rifles and said 'You're not going to burn and loot our city.'

    • @KCBluesJams
      @KCBluesJams 2 роки тому

      @@Bateluer I guess you need to look up the definition of vigilante. He was a young idiot with a gun that put himself in a place he never should have been. How do you feel about the rioters who stormed the Capital trying to overturn the last election should the police and the other citizens of Washington DC just opened fire on them to stop it ? Your reasoning is false by your statement anytime citizens protest armed vigilantes should show up vigilantes are not the answer that’s why we have police . I never hear anyone from the conservative side condemning what happened at the Capital or anytime right wingers use violence🤨as a matter of fact that nut trump liked what his simps 😘😍🥰🦸‍♂️were doing at the Capital even though they wanted to lynch his Vice President and didn’t really care what happened as long as he could stay in power the extreme right has really gotten out of control!!!

    • @casual35
      @casual35 2 роки тому +9

      It's not a racial angle. It was flat out the reason.

    • @stevealexander8010
      @stevealexander8010 2 роки тому +7

      @@KCBluesJams Vigilante - yes. No reason - wrong. When a mob is wantonly destroying property and usurping civil rights, you have every right to interpose yourself and demand they stop. If they then attack you, you have a right to self defense.
      I think it was a poor choice by Rittenhouse to be there, but if the auto-dealership owner did exactly the same your argument of "no reason" would evaporate.
      If you let a mob chase you off the public sidewalks, then what right do you have ?

  • @jamesmooney5348
    @jamesmooney5348 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, thanks for the information!

  • @TediumGenius
    @TediumGenius Рік тому

    Excellent explanation!!!!!

  • @donschneider7252
    @donschneider7252 2 роки тому

    Thanks Massad for the voice of reason.

  • @thomaswashington5006
    @thomaswashington5006 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent dialogue. Filled in the blanks.

  • @johnchipmanseishinaikido1531
    @johnchipmanseishinaikido1531 2 роки тому

    Calm, educated and prepared. Mr Ayoob admirably puts things in perspective. Everything we do must make sense at 09:00 Monday morning in court.

  • @patriotkieler9750
    @patriotkieler9750 2 роки тому +1

    Keep them coming love the content

  • @DocJJohnson
    @DocJJohnson 2 роки тому +2

    Valuable Content and guidance

  • @patcoder7308
    @patcoder7308 2 роки тому +1

    You hit nail on the head as always

  • @Retro-Moon25
    @Retro-Moon25 2 роки тому +1

    I really enjoy these!

  • @mazkact
    @mazkact 2 роки тому +2

    With every video I either learn something or have something known greatly reinforced, never miss one.

  • @almagore1
    @almagore1 2 роки тому

    Dear Massad, thank you for your expert advise.

  • @andre1987eph
    @andre1987eph 2 роки тому +1

    So I am a former NCAA 800 Meter All American runner. (Call me jogger if you wish) In the 1980s in winter time, home from college at Christmas, I would trained on roads and hills in a countryside in New York State called Rotterdam. I was never stopped or profiled in the many dozens of training runs I did on public roads in the 1980s as a young man if partial African American descent. Fast forward to year 2017. Now a California resident, I went back home to my old Rotterdam neighborhood and did a nostalgic jog on my old training route. Yup, you guessed it someone called the Rotterdam police on me! and the what seemed like the entire Rotterdam police responded. Whoever called the police on me couldn’t entirely steal my joy of reuniting with my old training grounds tho. I also discovered why I lost the national championship by a mere 0.16 seconds: The long, “gigantic” hills I trained on were not as steep and not as long as I had imagined. 🤣

    • @azteacher26
      @azteacher26 День тому

      Your story has nothing to do with the case. The guy wasn't called the 'jogger' because he was actually jogging. He had a history of theft and a history of telling people he was stealing from he was 'jogging'. Which was a lie.

  • @davidk4190
    @davidk4190 2 роки тому +1

    thank you very much.

  • @brianstamm1314
    @brianstamm1314 2 роки тому +2

    Great presentation as always.

  • @hjc4604
    @hjc4604 2 роки тому +5

    And they almost got away with it. If the guy hadn't video recorded it and/or leaked it, they would be free. It wasn't until the video was leaked that the real investigation started.

  • @susanharris5930
    @susanharris5930 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for clearly presenting the totality of each situation and logically dissecting it thoroughly to help us all stay safe and on the right side of the law. It is vital to think these types of situations through while we can logically so that we react appropriately when the adrenaline is coursing. Thank you again!

  • @iyn1911
    @iyn1911 2 роки тому +1

    Than Mas for explaining the shooting and the trial verdict.

  • @DB-nu8tr
    @DB-nu8tr 2 роки тому

    Great message by Massad. I hope that the people that need to hear it most, do hear it, and understand it.

  • @MrDwanehoward
    @MrDwanehoward 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks

  • @chrisboyd1408
    @chrisboyd1408 2 роки тому +1

    Great explanation

  • @scrider5493
    @scrider5493 2 роки тому

    Good breakdown, info that I did not know. Thanks.

  • @CPK13
    @CPK13 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you.

  • @rmbion
    @rmbion Рік тому

    Excellent channel. So important to know info to keep oneself outta trouble!

  • @louisbecker5941
    @louisbecker5941 2 роки тому +52

    Ahmaud Arbery was not physically threatening anyone's life or safety. These 3 guys had no right, authority or justification to detain him or impede his movement on a public street. As it was mentioned, if they really believed that he had been involved in illegal activity, they should've simply followed him & remained in communication with law enforcement.
    As soon as I saw the video, I knew right away that these men had seriously screwed themselves.

    • @melainewhite6409
      @melainewhite6409 2 роки тому +4

      I suppose you left to use the bathroom when the video showed Arbery running towards, charging, pummeling to the head, and trying to grab a weapon to further assault the victims.

    • @louisbecker5941
      @louisbecker5941 2 роки тому

      @@melainewhite6409
      That was only the result of a clear provocation by the assailants. It never would've occurred if they'd simply continued to follow him until law enforcement arrived.
      When the hounds chase down & surround the fox, the fox will attempt to defend itself.

    • @melainewhite6409
      @melainewhite6409 2 роки тому

      ​@@louisbecker5941 What a bizarre leftist POV, comparing a black man to an animal. Anyway, so in the video of Arbery assaulting the police, Arbery dindonuttin since everyone was obliged to stay away from the hot-head since Arbery attacking them is their fault.

    • @jacobnebel7282
      @jacobnebel7282 2 роки тому +4

      Georgia law allows detaining felony suspects, which mr. jogger was. Try again.

    • @Rick_0Mega
      @Rick_0Mega 2 роки тому +14

      @@jacobnebel7282 and what felony was he suspected of committing?

  • @BarefootGreg
    @BarefootGreg 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Massad for caring about us enough to share your knowledge

  • @johne.sladek5176
    @johne.sladek5176 Рік тому

    just want To Say thank you for all of your videos I'm New to conceal carry just wanting to learn as much as possible about it before I start to carry and you are very good at informing all of us just starting to carry or been doing it for a long time I'll keep watching and learning thanks again

  • @patrickbly4170
    @patrickbly4170 2 роки тому

    Love your Voice.. like a musical instrument

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 Рік тому

    Thanks Massad.🇺🇸

  • @irafowlerjr.7492
    @irafowlerjr.7492 2 роки тому

    always helpful info, thanks

  • @coderexe30
    @coderexe30 Рік тому

    Thank you for making these videos. They are extremely informative- i have learned a lot.

  • @FraterMerovius
    @FraterMerovius 2 роки тому

    Thank you, Massad, for your reasonable, informed assessment of this case. You are a living treasure for the firearm owning community. I, and I am certain many others, have learned much from your videos.

  • @davidhayes7596
    @davidhayes7596 2 роки тому

    Great Job of breaking this down. One could write several books using this case as a template. Man , you really bring these things to relevant legal perspective.

  • @redtomcat1725
    @redtomcat1725 Рік тому

    tHANK YOU FOR THE FACTUAL ADVICE!

  • @keithstehling3586
    @keithstehling3586 2 роки тому

    Excellent advise and understanding...thank you

  • @michaelrondo8091
    @michaelrondo8091 Рік тому

    Once again I'm humble to learn this is an awesome channel that you tell it like it is don't be the victim of the criminals out there by making wrong choices I love it