Thank you for clarifying the question. For years I have felt uneasy about what Welby says. I support orthodox, scriptural Christianity in the Anglican form. I feel that my church has pushed me aside.
You're very welcome , thank you . Welby has now resigned regards John Smyth abuse report. Its hard to predict what will happen. Some C of E Bishop's appear to be very liberal indeed and they've pushed these matters forward. The CEEC is hoping to see a ''Parallel Province'' for evangelical/orthodox believers. We shall see what happens in 2025 .
Choose this day …..Baal or God …….me and my family stand for the Lord ……these Archbishops have no Fear of the Lord …..do they know they will be judged !
"Come out of her my people." I appreciate your loyalty but you are trying to hold on to a stinking carcass which was born out of a man's lust 500 years ago. I was confirmed many years ago then left. Became born-again 5 years later with no desire to return. Even your King is not a believer. Wanted to be Keeper of ALL faiths. I encourage you all to move on to a truly evangelical church.
I go to one of many faithful C of E evangelical churches. Sad situation indeed. Currently the believing “Alliance” is negotiating a parallel province for orthodox Christians in England. Each person has to examine their conscience as to leaving etc.
Indeed. This resignation was in relation not to LLF but to historical abuse by John Smythe. Indeed the Bishops of the C of E seem to be about 70 % pro LLF and maybe 30% against (roughly).
Yes and watch this space with ''The Alliance'' and the lead by the CEEC over these next months. I would guess there'll be a seperate province for the whole of England. But you're right, it is very sad.
@@annebrearley9663 you are absolutely correct. Many are friends with the world, which means they want to compromise the message. It devalues truth and we must remember not all compromise but remain faithful ✝️✝️✝️
Mr Gumbel was influenced by the so-called 'Toronto' blessing. I have heard some say that the blessing wasn't what we might think. People were barking and acting like animals.
@@johnmargetts-b1c LOL. That’s an old chestnut isn’t it? It is a seamless Divine unity; Gods word is for then, for now and for evermore. It’s as simple as that .
By the way, the bible is a musty old book, stop giving it an importance above it deserves. Can you not see the spirit may have spoken through Paul's letters and gospels but it moves on. So should we. We are possibly now in the beginning of the end times and its going to get much more ugly than this.
@@johnmargetts-b1c progressive revelation is a flawed concept. 2 Timothy 3:16 is either true for all time or false then and today. I believe the former. Sola Scriptura. ✝️✝️✝️
@@casperdog777 my point is that as both Paul and Jesus says, its not the words or religion but the inner spirit. Jesus was always critical of religious leaders because they stuck to the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law which was essentially love. I think your right, there is a Truth but my problem is that while in the physical dimension we are prone to trying to make that truth obey our concept of physicality. Quantum physics is a challenge to scientific materialism for exactly this reason. Those sections of our universe which transcend the physical world, sub atomic particles plus the inner spirituality of humans, cannot be tied down to physical certainties, it can only be experienced. So look for Truth in the same place all the time as though we have it pinned down and it will escape us.
@@johnmargetts-b1c Yes, you raise some interesting food for thought here. Thank you for clarifying. I expect they write large books on these topics 😉. The pull towards legalism is an ever present issue. It can be easy for religious folk to ignore love and become “religious “ in completely the wrong way as per some Pharasaical tradition in Jesus’ day.
@@casperdog777 yes, this seems to be the ever present trap- making laws and trying to create certainty. Yet the spirit will not be pinned down. I suspect the reason is that when we leave the body our perception is no longer restricted by the flesh, or 3 dimensional space and then as we see more clearly we are able to see how flawed making hard and fast rules are. Seems to me that we are in a paradox in that we need to trust in things we cannot perceive on earth. Still leaves the problem of how to live this this life of course. We cant just sit in a field and wait to die although this might be a possible conclusion, certainly one i have contemplated. Frustrating.
@@johnmargetts-b1c I'm not sure where you're coming from with this and your other posts. Forget what I say in my video, rather focus on, Saint Paul , the Apostle; read his letters. His letters are , if nothing, certain and very clear. They are either valid or invalid. Either what Jesus is saying (through Paul) to the churches, is true or not. If valid they are God's teaching to the churches from then and to the present. If invalid, they are of no consequence at all. Your choice. The liberal has the bible in one hand and a pair of scissors in the other. Arch Bishop Stephen Cottrell believes in progressive revelation and has said so, Paul the Apostle is clear and certain; calling out wolves in sheeps clothing - for me I follow Christ's Apostle NOT Stephen Cottrell who is leading the C of E into error.
Unity at the cost of compromise is not unity, it’s compromise at the cost of upholding the TRUTH.
That is very well put. Thank you for your comment.
The seperation of True Believers from false ones this is what is taking place now
Living in love & lies = no faith, because without Truth, there is nothing to uphold faith.
Exactly, you are correct. Thank you.
The other off the wall humourous comment about LLF, well, some call it this: ''Living In Lust & Fornication'' = LLF 😉
Thank you for clarifying the question. For years I have felt uneasy about what Welby says. I support orthodox, scriptural Christianity in the Anglican form. I feel that my church has pushed me aside.
You're very welcome , thank you . Welby has now resigned regards John Smyth abuse report. Its hard to predict what will happen. Some C of E Bishop's appear to be very liberal indeed and they've pushed these matters forward. The CEEC is hoping to see a ''Parallel Province'' for evangelical/orthodox believers. We shall see what happens in 2025 .
We have to agree with God
Exactly this. We are created not to contradict his word. So it means we have to say no to the heretical word. Stand firm.✝️
We have to follow Jesus not Jesus following us
So true. We model our lives on God’s word not our fallen desires and lusts.
Choose this day …..Baal or God …….me and my family stand for the Lord ……these Archbishops have no Fear of the Lord …..do they know they will be judged !
I wonder if they know deep down or have they continually denied truth so much, they actually believe the lie ?
"Come out of her my people." I appreciate your loyalty but you are trying to hold on to a stinking carcass which was born out of a man's lust 500 years ago. I was confirmed many years ago then left. Became born-again 5 years later with no desire to return. Even your King is not a believer. Wanted to be Keeper of ALL faiths. I encourage you all to move on to a truly evangelical church.
I go to one of many faithful C of E evangelical churches. Sad situation indeed. Currently the believing “Alliance” is negotiating a parallel province for orthodox Christians in England. Each person has to examine their conscience as to leaving etc.
He finally resigned on 12th Nov 2024.
Indeed. This resignation was in relation not to LLF but to historical abuse by John Smythe. Indeed the Bishops of the C of E seem to be about 70 % pro LLF and maybe 30% against (roughly).
Very sad
Yes and watch this space with ''The Alliance'' and the lead by the CEEC over these next months. I would guess there'll be a seperate province for the whole of England. But you're right, it is very sad.
Compromise is not in the Bible. Anyonewho adds to the word or takes it away has consequences. They have no fear of God. I know who i am following x
@@annebrearley9663 you are absolutely correct. Many are friends with the world, which means they want to compromise the message. It devalues truth and we must remember not all compromise but remain faithful ✝️✝️✝️
Its a historical moment of moving forward
Yes, moving forward hopefully, let's hope some positives emerge from this situation, although it is difficult to see what is progressing here ?
Nicky Gumbel and the Whole Alpha Course NEEDS EXPOSING!
why do you say this? i am interested
@@richardswatton6702 corrupt to the core, he endorses a lot of false preachers, and promotes Drunk with the spirit for starters
@@richardswatton6702 well he endorses the Pope for one of many reasons
Mr Gumbel was influenced by the so-called 'Toronto' blessing. I have heard some say that the blessing wasn't what we might think. People were barking and acting like animals.
''Losing My Religion '' by R.E.M. see here: ua-cam.com/video/xwtdhWltSIg/v-deo.html
We are called to follow Jesus NOT a stupid 'football team' of a church fraction.
why quote from Paul? Is it Paulianity or christianity?
@@johnmargetts-b1c LOL. That’s an old chestnut isn’t it? It is a seamless Divine unity; Gods word is for then, for now and for evermore. It’s as simple as that .
By the way, the bible is a musty old book, stop giving it an importance above it deserves. Can you not see the spirit may have spoken through Paul's letters and gospels but it moves on. So should we. We are possibly now in the beginning of the end times and its going to get much more ugly than this.
@@johnmargetts-b1c progressive revelation is a flawed concept. 2 Timothy 3:16 is either true for all time or false then and today. I believe the former. Sola Scriptura. ✝️✝️✝️
@@casperdog777 my point is that as both Paul and Jesus says, its not the words or religion but the inner spirit. Jesus was always critical of religious leaders because they stuck to the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law which was essentially love. I think your right, there is a Truth but my problem is that while in the physical dimension we are prone to trying to make that truth obey our concept of physicality. Quantum physics is a challenge to scientific materialism for exactly this reason. Those sections of our universe which transcend the physical world, sub atomic particles plus the inner spirituality of humans, cannot be tied down to physical certainties, it can only be experienced. So look for Truth in the same place all the time as though we have it pinned down and it will escape us.
@@johnmargetts-b1c Yes, you raise some interesting food for thought here. Thank you for clarifying. I expect they write large books on these topics 😉. The pull towards legalism is an ever present issue. It can be easy for religious folk to ignore love and become “religious “ in completely the wrong way as per some Pharasaical tradition in Jesus’ day.
@@casperdog777 yes, this seems to be the ever present trap- making laws and trying to create certainty. Yet the spirit will not be pinned down. I suspect the reason is that when we leave the body our perception is no longer restricted by the flesh, or 3 dimensional space and then as we see more clearly we are able to see how flawed making hard and fast rules are. Seems to me that we are in a paradox in that we need to trust in things we cannot perceive on earth. Still leaves the problem of how to live this this life of course. We cant just sit in a field and wait to die although this might be a possible conclusion, certainly one i have contemplated. Frustrating.
@@johnmargetts-b1c I'm not sure where you're coming from with this and your other posts.
Forget what I say in my video, rather focus on, Saint Paul , the Apostle; read his letters. His letters are , if nothing, certain and very clear. They are either valid or invalid. Either what Jesus is saying (through Paul) to the churches, is true or not. If valid they are God's teaching to the churches from then and to the present. If invalid, they are of no consequence at all. Your choice. The liberal has the bible in one hand and a pair of scissors in the other. Arch Bishop Stephen Cottrell believes in progressive revelation and has said so, Paul the Apostle is clear and certain; calling out wolves in sheeps clothing - for me I follow Christ's Apostle NOT Stephen Cottrell who is leading the C of E into error.